Is This The Ultimate Seiko Dive Watch? SPB143J1
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Big shout out to0 Marty for the loan of hsi lovely SPB143J1. I thnk for many people this will indeed represent the sweet spot in terms of dollars spend to Seiko received. The 6R35 is a good one, overall build quality is very nice, lume, sapphire etc, all top notch. If only they had actually matched the bracelet to the case??!! Cheers, Jody
“Hellooooo and welcome” never gets old and always makes me happy to hear, please keep up the quality content
Poor Marty probably wouldn't have seen the dust speck, no he'll never unsee it
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I have one. It's become my daily and favorite. Paid $850 usd. Agree about the bracelet, I use straps. I see the unsigned crown as a plus. Minimalist, simple, no frills. I think it matches the look/feel of the case/bezel etc...
Rocket, please tell me where did you buy with this price? It was new or used.? thank you for your answer.
@@joseazula4440 watch u seek forum, used
This is the first Seiko I've seen in a long time that makes me want to give Seiko a try.
Go for it, it’s a keeper!
The time-lapse at the end was 'chef's kiss'
I just love the look of this classic diver. I have yet to find a decent Seiko steel bracelet other than the one on the first gen Monster. I replaced all my steel bracelets with Uncle Seiko and Strapcode options, far superior. I am also fairly certain that I know exactly where Seiko has cut costs; they closed down their quality control division. As always, great video.
I once was really infatuated with this and was choosing between this and the Captain Willard because I really like that square/baton indices and rectangular hand look on a watch. However after I tried them on in a boutique and with the introduction of the Traska Commuter and Christopher Ward's C63 Automatic (I know both of them are not diver's, but I was looking for a dark/black dialled sports watch) I really have fallen out of love of the two Seikos. The end link was one of niggles that I had with this piece as well.
Just got.today this watch and yes it ıs!! A perfect tool watch for he's price range wow just wow 👌 what a finishing what a beauty's this watch..don't believe any watch on this price range compare to this one. And I have also sinn 556i but this thing omg I'm in love🤗🤗🤗it's just melt on my 7+Inc wrist it's like I don't wear any watch🧐🤗🤗❤️
I am wearing mine right now. I absolutely love the watch
Handsome watch. I wish I waited and bought this watch instead of my Oris Aquis. No doubt the Aquis is an excellent watch. But this Seiko's proportions are a little better and it has a very classic-looking dial--even more than the Aquis. Finally, is it less-expensive.
Great review as always, Jody. I absolutely love mine, FWIW, not only the ultimate Seiko Diver, but such a pleasure to wear it has me out of the market for divers for a while.
I’m glad the crown is unsigned, that circular brushing looks far nicer than having a cheesy S or X on there.
Agreed! Signed crown is the most overrated thing ever.
@@tomislavm2873 Especially on a tool watch; I don’t want that thing to be covered in logos like a rally car.
Nice watch, but I would expect a better movement for the price. I would rather a Borealis/Zelos/NTH, or RLG for less than half the price
Seiko needs to adopt COSC or come up with their own standard, would give me a lot more comfort at this end on their offering spectrum and below
A watch has to be Swiss to fall under COSC though?
Tried this on my wrist at an AD other day it's so nice.. One day I'll get one!!
Just coming back to say I got it!!!
HiJody, I've only picked up your channel in the last couple of months but really enjoy your videos....keep up the good work. Although I just want to say that signed crowns goes against the Prospex brand. Ever since the first Laurel, Seiko have not put signed crowns on their professional "outdoor/diver" watches. I think that there may be 2 exceptions for short run "limited" editions. I think that blinging up these watches with signed metalware paradoxically dilutes the strength of the branding....I really don't like the signed keeper and buckle on my SRPE37. I won't be going for a "King" version of any of their watches again. I do have an SPB143 and I think it's a really nice watch (luckily it's a good one!), nobody quite does a dial like Seiko - if you're lucky enough to get a dust free one. If somebody wants a signed crown, get a cheaper watch from the Presage collection - I don't think it has anything to do with cost.
Have to agree. I panic bought at full retail (no tax via Gnomon, luckily) and love it, but braclet integration is crap, and also, the extension digs in over the day. Had to get a uncle seiko tropic and a strapcode bracelet to try and find a better option. Both fit better, but the bracelet is a different shade. Also, mine loses 10s a day. Pay the money and take a chance.....
Because of this channel, I now have a Steeldive 1970 and an Invicta 8926ob. Thanks!
i do love these but even if they were more like 800 US, that still would seem high for these specs.
Own, love it. I think its worth every penny even at retail. Love at first sight for me.
I really wanted to love this watch. I bought it and sold it twice. The dial and case size is perfect but the inaccuracy of the movement and subpar bracelet (pin and collar, uncomfortable diver’s extension) are rather unforgivable at this US$1k-ish price point.
It's a doddle to regulate the 6R35. All you need is a timegrapher and a phone app like the Android WatchCheck to evaluate daily gain/loss over a few days to a week. If there is daily consistency you should be able to hone it in to zero to +3 seconds gain per day average.
@@Laz_Arus having to regulate a $1k Seiko for better accuracy is like having to buy a $20k Toyota and having to tune it for better fuel efficiency. Yes it can be done aftermarket but that should be the job of the manufacturer.
For that price I would go for a Steinhart or a Mido….better specs and quality for me
Please give some thought to reviewing another watch that's the answer to this watches deficiencies, same premise, ultimate value... and thank you for another great review 👍.
I have to disagree about the lack of a signed crown. Look closely and you'll see that it has circular brushing that gives it a lovely, subtle sunburst effect that perfectly matches the mid-century minimalist aesthetic of the watch. It just works. Stamping it with an "S" or that Prospex "X" would just look gaudy.
The ultimate seiko diver?
YES IT IS
I bought it 3 weeks ago as addition to my collection. And I cant stop wearing it.
I'm trying to buy this one in Korea, but I couldn't find right seller of this model yet. Maybe I'll have to buy it from overseas market. What's the price in your market?
Nice Seiko, but with those niggles, and just the odd cost savings, I’d probably never buy one unless it was a great deal pre-owned!
Seiko Samurai ticks all the boxes for me.Its the perfect Seiko dive watch.
Bought mine in October, never looked at another watch.. well nearly😂. But seriously this has the Seiko vibe a collector is looking for. On the other hand, if you want to have just one Seiko diver, this is it.
I agree with the all the moans, spot on as usual Jody. But no watch is perfect. This is my pick for a diver in the under 2K segment (seriously). It just looks stunning and feels solid. You pay a bit more and you get a bit more.
Superb review, I think this is the best looking Seiko diver for the money.
I love this video and I haven't even watched yet 😁
I have watched at least 10 different videos on the SPB143, thanks for mentioning the SPB185J!!! Wanted to make an informed purchase.
its a nice watch and a proper ISO Diver
Really nice proposition from seiko, and sure the quality of the finishing from the case and the Iso diver certification sure explain the price.
But I personally went for the SanMartin 62mas V4, ticks à lot of boxes for a 5th of the price
There are so many diver watches released by Seiko and sometimes seem hard to catch up. Add to that, tons of microbrands start off with a dive watch. I would be keen to hear your opinion and comparison on different dive watches and see how they fare.
Good review as always Jody. Just ordered the limited edition blue and silver one. Fingers crossed 🤞 on the quality control!
I just got smitten by a Gen 4 monster. AMAZING blue/ish dial. Keeper. Not perfect but still a keeper. Quirky King. 5th seiko
Good video as always a Saturday morning treat.
If Seiko charged $2000 for one Seiko fans would still buy them.
Love to have one with a blue dial!
Best watch!!! I have SPB149J1
Really beautiful watch! I noticed here and also on some online shops, there is Lumibrite at 3 O'clock on screenshots but on actual watch is missing?! The new spb 239 has Lumi on that spot.
The darker tone of the stainless steel is beautiful 😍
To put it in perspective, the 6R35, which Seiko regards as somewhat of a mid-range movement for them, is directly competing with the Swatch Group's Powermatic 80 series of movements, which is considered an entry level movement for them.
I've had two 6R35s, one ran at +15 a day and the other at +18, regulated down to about +7/8 at a watchmaker. I've had one Powermatic 80 movement in a Mido diver that runs at +3 secs a day out of the box. If you own / owned a 6R35 or a movement based on the Powermatic 80, I'd be interested to know the performance you're getting from them.
Well I own a few 6r35 and they run -1, +2, +1. So what is your point?
@@tomislavm2873 Oh, I'm sorry. Does there need to be a point for you?
Jody! Great video as always!! You should do a video review of the Bulova Hack Watch VWI edition or the DLC version! I think it's a great contender to the Hamilton khaki mechanical and any other field watches. You'd definitely enjoy that watch! Hard to beat value for money!
I like Seiko Divers, I have a couple.
But I like something that looks a bit different. I have just picked up a SRPF94 and its gorgeous.
Take a look and maybe you could do a review in your own inimitable style. 🤗
The Vostok Zissou arrived yesterday. WooHoo.
Just ordered my Seiko baby tuna SBDY055 limited edition from Japan when it arrives i will be happy to send you my thoughts it will be my first Seiko
I built my own. I found a Chinese reproduction case with sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel insert. NH35 movement I built it with milsub fail and sword hands but I think I will update it with Seiko dial and hands.
Seiko can do some great work when They want to I would love to get my hands One of the grand cycles to see how those are put together hopefully they don’t cut corners on those
It is the Ultimate Seiko DIVER 👍🔥🍎
The ultimate seiko diver is my steeldive willard lol
Is it bad my first thought from the thumbnail is.. " How can I mod this?".. Glad for the upload as I get ready to hit the sack here in the States..
Do you mean that you'd mod a different watch to look like this, or mod this watch to look different?
I love my 143 !
Me 2!
I wore it for 4 hours and sent it to Jody.. regretting it maybe... Great to see it on the timegrapher tho.. Marty
Everytime it seems Seiko strugles with the same issues. Is that why people (inclusief myself) have so many Seiko's? But since they raised the prices, I'm looking more and more to "micro brands". Love your videos!
because the end links don’t match the case and lugs, i can’t use my bracelet. fortunately i think it looks better on a tropic, nato, etc but i wish the bracelet was an option…
Why the carry on about an unsigned crown? When do you look at the crown end anyway?
Would be tempted if it had no date & dd Crystal, tho bracelet typically Seiko. Nice watch overall.
Cheers Mate 👍🏻
For me that’s the only seiko i ever considered buying. I still think about it. Although jodie‘s criticism seems to be legit.
If you forget about the Seiko logo on the dial, it may be better build than a Pagani, it doesn't look 900 USD better than a Pagani. For that money you can do far better.
You need to look at one in the flesh, the finish is incredible, cant even be compared to a Pagani.
Rene you don't know what you are talking about. Ignorant comment.
@@tomislavm2873 I must admit I do not have a hands on experience with this specific model. And maybe the comparison with a Pagani is not the best one. But I I convinced there is better value for money out there.
I really appreciate your videos and the effort you put into them.
I just noticed that the photo in the thumbnail has a half indices by the date window. I know the new version with the white dial and blue bezel has that. I’m wondering where the thumbnail photo came from and if this means they’re rereleasing the SPB143 with the indices by the date.
Hey Jody, did Pagani sponsored the video or Seiko? I would save more to buy a Grand Seiko. Thanks for the review mate.
Love this watch and have been eyeing it for a while. I ended up buying a San Martin 62 Mas V4 instead :)
I would be happy to buy most of these watches for a better price with a quartz movement
Us quartz fans need to be heard above the crowd.To be fair Seiko make a lot of quartz models but they never get reviewed.
I have auto watches but I would like reviews on more quartz watches, I just dont understand why everything is going auto.
@@glennpowell3444 I guess the Seiko SNA411 Flightmaster is the odd one out as that's, deservedly, had a lot of airtime (pun intended!). Dan Henry is also doing good affordable watches with quartz and is well regarded with plenty of exposure.
@@steffenchristmas1987 Dan Henry are very nice 👍
Love this watch. I am debating about buying one for me and my dad so this is a great video !!
That Sophie is so clear. And the finish is leagues above anything I have already. It's my can't help staying at you watch.. Oh but that piece of dust.. Marty
SPB051 is a better looking watch to my eyes, one of those watches that looks much better in the flesh. And the bracelet is nicer than the143 also.
One thing - I don't think those indices are applied. They seem to be stamped into the dial from behind so it's all one piece.
I don't think reviewers should be calling indices applied if they are not sure, simply because it has a raised surface.
The answer to your tittle is YES!! Now time to watch the video ❤️
Beautiful watch but as seiko gives us a few things we want they also taketh away size, design, movement, dial and bracelet are all nice upgrades but they give us printed lumibrite not deep filled like my 051,061 so the lume is not as good they also give us a cheap painted bezel instead of a ceramic which even my king turtle has for less than $400 cmon Seiko! They also give us pins and collars, and no signed crown. While I’m on board with them modernizing the design with the correct handset I really wish they would do away with that triangle at the pip as it is on the original and sla017 still going after the amber dial on bracelet despite these shortcomings. Would love to see a review on the new textured grey dial
Captain Willard!
Excellent review! But why oh why do crowns need to be signed ...
For exactly the same reasons that car wheels have branding in the middle and aren't just blank/generic. It's about the details, branding, bespoke parts, and getting a watch that has been thought about from end to end and not just cobbled together from the parts bin.
Regarding Jodi's comment on the endlink "gap" not matching the head of the watch...
has anyone tried replacing the Seiko stock bracelet for this watch with a Super-O Boyer (or other alternative) bracelet, and seeing if that makes a difference?
Just have seen this for 500 CHF (less than 500 USD) in a storevon zürich. I think i have to go back and pick it up!
would you mind sharing what shop that was? if they have another one ... I'll pick up one too.
Apparently it was wrongly prices in the window. On the hangtag the real price of 1500.- was listed. They sales person then offered it for 1250.-
But i passed. I still feel not comfortable paying over 1000.- for a Seiko.
@@7rslender so the watch is still in the store in case you‘re interested. It’s a small shop in zürich Altstetten near Lindenplatz. I believe it’s called Linden Uhren & Schmuck
@@GuyMrIncognito Thanks for the recon and feedback. Cool to know that there is a Seiko dealer in Altstetten. I find them kind of hard to find in Switzerland. Unfortunately, their prices usually are not competitive with international online sellers at all which shows here again. And usually, they only sell the lower tiers of Seiko.
I will check them out.
Too bad the correct price tag was on the watch, otherwise, the law would have been on your side and they should have sold it to you for CHF 500.- .
1250.- is kind of OK if you compare other sellers (Gnomon sells it for US 1150.-) and if you want to support a local dealer ... I think. Still, it's pretty expensive. I went for a used Armida A12 this summer (300.-) and love the look and the feel. Only thing missing is the Seiko Logo :-D
@@7rslender yeah, the price would have been okay. But i would gave bought it only because if that amazing price in the window. For under 1000.- i would have picked it up as well.
And i dont mind this shop at all. But the whole ambience is not comparable to a higher end shop where you also can get a watch for 1500.- such as the Oris Boutique at Rennweg. That is a different word so it’s also easier to spend a hugh price. At least for me.
what do you think of the movement in it the mad watch collector said it was the same one they put in there 100 dollar watches
I like the Grey dial and case shape, but as soon as I saw it I thought that end link does not match the watch case.
Great video ! 😁 I just think it’s overpriced for the value , the only interesting part in the watch is the box domed sapphire cristal . The rest looks like any other 400-600 € seiko . But that’s just my opinion 😅
The Job they did on the AR sapphire crystal is the clearest I've ever seen, it make that dial incredible on wrist, and the level of finish on the stainless is incredible. Jody's great video skills just cant do this justice.. Try one on...
Enjoy your RUclips watch reviews. I was wondering where you picked up the silver flying nymph hood ornament that is sitting on top of you bookshelf? It looks just like the one featured in the Allstate insurance commercial currentky running here in the US.
Hey mate! It's a hood ornament from a Nash. If you google images 'Nash flying lady hood ornament' you can find it.
I love this channel! You make my day !
So for 40% less I can get an Axios Ironclad or a Steinhart with crown guards , swiss movement, signed crown , solid screwed bracelet, ceramic bezel in many different colour ways . umm 🤔 Seiko help me understand the maths ?
The brand name isn’t worth the money and in fact some people will think Seiko are cheap watches anyway because of all there quartz products.
Love the watch but it’s not a £1000.00 purchase.
A shame the date window doesn’t have a polished surround as well
I went into my local high street jeweller and got 25% off. I initially went in planning to buy a Willard but came out with one of these instead.
And I've recently popped it on an Uncle Seiko tropic for a bit of a change.
It would be *really* interesting, at the end of 2021, to do a "recap" video listing *all* the various editions and variants of Seiko (auto, prospex) watches released this year...
Jodie could you do a lume war between Steeldive Willard and Orient Kamasu ?
Seiko’s new slogan: “Missed it by THAT much.”
😄👍
This is exactly the watch I wanted Seiko to make.
Good morning from America.
I like the 185 as well.
Hellloooooooo America!
I want one of these, but it’s kinda dear.
very informative, thanks
Very nice watch. I love the SPB149J1 (with the beautiful blue dial). But I think it's overpriced.
Lovely looking watch.
I picked one up and had they wouldn't budge on the price but you cant win them all.
I've been looking at this watch just about every night for the past month lol
Nice celsior shirt 👍👍👍👍👍
A like and comment to feed the algorithm. Thanks for this one...it's on my radar. Do you like this one more than the SS bezel Seiko ??
Thanks Eric, watch/skip to the end for my personal preference......
Yes...thanks. Got it.
Just have to ask you, how many Seikos do you own?
It is pretty, but honestly, the Samurai is a better deal, imo. 1k+ is a bit much for a dirty face and push pins.
King Samurai/King Turtle are really good for the asking price.
Is San Martin somehow comparable?
San Martin make the ultimate Seikos. They are having a laugh basically selling a reissue for £1k. As the QC gets (even) better out of China all these established brands are going to have a struggle to keep up.
Right on.
They have qc issue too. For me. Uneven lume application. And not smooth screw down crown. It feel like grinding when screwing in.
@@toi3213 Yeah, they aren't perfect, but forgivable given the price tag
I owned the spb149 and the spb151 and I gotta say the the Williard although larger wears much better on my seven inch wrist. I will be selling my spb149 if interested PM me.
The bracelet brushing is beautiful. But the lack of attention to get the basics right has put me off. I can admire from a distance, but don’t see myself owning one.
+25 seconds a day tolerance for a $1000 watch? That with the unsigned crown, dust, I kinda struggle with that. Think id rather an Oris Aquis or similar for the money. I get that Seikos are "culty" and a watch lovers watch but yeah. For that money i'd have to go swiss and have something a bit more "special" on my wrist.
The spb143 is the desk diver. Seiko's earlier 62 Mas homage, the SBDC053 is the tool watch diver.
Nice watch....but you just can't unsee the mismatched bracelet
Dia-shield? More like dia-rhea. I just don't get why aren't the big brands putting a nice lumed ceramic bezel insert on their watches. Are they creating a market for mod makers on purpose or something? Come on!
This turn to luxury of Seiko with all those little fails how unsigned crowns, harlex o alignment of bezel in watches over 500 us$.....I don't know 🤔