Negan: The only character in existence who could brutally kill off one or two of the best characters in a comic or show and still win over the majority of the audience.
@@baku983 The reason the Joker killed him was because the fans hated him. He was simply too whiny, and way too dark. I have a copy of Death in the Family. The writers talk all about it in the foreword.
@@baku983 It's not that they hate Red Hood, rather, they hate his obsession with trying to be murderous counterpart to Batman, which, arguably, the Joker already was. In addition, due to being Jason Todd, he brings a lot of emotional baggage with him that prevents people from separating Red Hood from Jason Todd. Resultingly, newer fans love Red Hood, older ones hate him.
Nejk gamessk yeahh no some crap CGI villain is nothing compared to Jeffrey Dean Morgan killing this role as Negan don’t even compare thanos to him Jeffrey on a different level
The writting of Negan was greatly inspired on Henry Rollins. He got casted for the role, but JDM was so good they kept him instead. Can you imagine nailing a part so good that even the guy who inspired the role didnt got it lol
Absolutely. The show pretty much belongs to Jeffrey Dean Morgan from here stealing the spotlight with his charisma, but this episode (and the next one) belongs to Andrew Lincoln. There's a moment in the trailer, after roadblock 3 I think, where the cameras centred on him touching his face & his expression is haunting. You see it dawning on him right there - Abraham's right, we're done out here. Deserved every penny he got working those two episodes. Outstanding acting.
I actually prefer Negan not swearing as often as his comic counter part. It’s way more intimidating to me when someone can remain calm, composed, and articulate during this type of situation.
Some people will argue that in such a post-apocalyptic world, a man-child who commands cult-like respect from his followers tossing around the f-bomb every other sentence would be a real thing that could happen. To those I say I do agree; it is pretty immersive, and if you crave immersion in your zombie tv shows, then kudos to you. But as I read through Negan's fuck-sprinkled dialogue in the comics, I felt my eyes start to glaze over as the word "fuck" had really lost it's impact a long while ago. Maybe it's just me, but I like my fucks like I like my cunts: used sparingly and with great impact.
Alec Blaylock completely agree. I saw the censored version before I read the comic or saw the uncensored version with JDM swearing and I prefered what i saw first time round, as you say his calmness was more intimidating. A good example of less is more is the uncensored scene of Rick in the cliff hanger ending at terminus when he said 'when they realised they're fucking with the wrong people' hit home brilliantly so when I saw the censored version with 'messing' it lost that punch.
You're going to get to see the other side of the story now. When Negan does this to Alpha you will understand why Negan had to do this in the first place. Negan was protecting his people from what seemed like just another group of raiders stealing his shit. If this show would have been through the eyes of Negan, instead of Rick. People would have seen Negan as the good guy in all this.
@@playerunkown8699 Now I know this is late, but you are just one "fucking" wrong 'fucking' asshole. Just because you first saw him on TWD, doesn't make him famous now... He was already a known actor, it's how he got the role... I remember him as the Winchester's father and the cigar dude on Watchmen. He was also on uncaged, but you probably don't know any other source of media but TWD. Idk why, but people like you are asshats to me. "This famous actor didn't get famous till this" like wut? Do you know how stupid you sound?
I must be getting old because Negan swearing so much in the comic is far more annoying than it is intimidating. Love the change in dialogue in the show.
i think it's fits comic negan more because he's portrayed as immature and silly most of the time.Think, deadpool. Tv show negan isn't as silly. He makes jokes yes but it mostly seems like a mask he wears to manipulate people. Comic negan is genuinely an immature asshole.
the annoyance is part of the makeup of the character. he's not supposed to be cool. he is supposed to be an over-grown teenager who thinks swearing make him look badass. Remember this the apocalypse with those in control are not supposed to be. That guy was probably a grade-A loser in real life and now he ends up on top at the end of days cause he's a sadistic Mother Fker. But he's still not fully developped as a human.
Crypto yea they toned him down a lot I’m not sure how much he changed in the books but it felt like a 180 especially after the season 7 mid season finally when he was all like working people to death and next episode he decides stop antagonizing the workers
My question is....why did he say *cut the boys other eye out* making me think it was carl but they show us glen with 2 perfectly good working eyes! *is there something im missing here*
@@Jack-hd6vh I wouldn’t say *much* better because the show does some things better than the comics. But yeah, Carl really shouldn’t have been killed off even though it led to a better ending of the war in the show.
Oh this is not the first and only time Rick choked as a leader. The comics may be different but show Rick really fucked up at the prison. Instead of just shooting that prisoner he leaves it up to chance that the walkers are gonna kill him in a fenced area that with 2 seconds of scanning he'd have known he'd climb over that shit. Then that prisoner sabotages the prison and T dog and Lori die. Then he tries reasoning with the governor and that goes horribly south too when he should have known better.
@Joel but that's the point, Negan doesn't take it seriously, he simply doesn't care about what happens or what he says, he's not a villain, he's supposed to be immature, show doesn't show that well and when they try and do something like comics did, they shift Negans whole personality
@@womanrespecter1045 yeah, the introduction in the show is pretty cool, and it's not a bad idea to make him a more serious threatening character than the comics if they change enough of the story to justify it, but the writing in the show is just dogshit and makes the character inconsistent by leaving his comicbook personality intact in some scenes which is different than the character established in his introduction, or just make shit up that doesn't make any sense, waste of a good performance really.
I kinda like it more in TV because he doesn't swear as much, so he sounds bit more intimidating. They obviously did it for tv censors, but it kinda ended up being better. Also Jeff's acting was spot on, if you think about it, he's having a monologue for like 10 minutes and he manages to keep your attention.
This might be a controversial opinion, but I actually like that the show killed two characters, because it emphasizes the intimidation factor of Negan, and also reminds the audience that anyone can die at any moment
Plus both kills weren't random either. He picked Abraham and Glenn got himself killed for having an outburst first. Negan said he would shut that shit down and well Daryll put the finishing touches on that lol
As much as I get your point, the two characters they killed--both dead after this point in the comics--felt like suuuch a lazy decision in terms of writing. They had potential to do more with either, but decided to do that to play it waayy too safe.
I don't understand people who hate villains for killing charachters. Not appreciating a villain because you can't see beyond the fact that they killed someone is just dumb😂
One of the most brutal moments in cable TV history. This was movie quality violence. Honestly made me shudder the first time I saw this. Took me a couple days to come around to the idea that Negan really wasn't all that bad of a guy. We just are watching the story through Rick's eyes. If it was through Negan's eyes we would have seen another group attack our group, kill our friends, and watch them steal our friends stuff. Point of view is very important. And we are going to see that now with The Whisperer arch.
It was more effective in the show than the comics, because there was much more of Rick and the others actively mass murdering those guys without a second thought or remorse, and planning it.
Looking objectively... Negan had the reasons to kill them. But no sane person can truly accept the way he did it, smashing people heads in front of their friends...beloved.. making jokes about it and laugh. C'mon that's not a revenge, that's the sadistic diabolical shit. Rick started a war, killed his enemies, so kill them back the same way, that would make much more sense.
Imaging living in apocalypse not much to eat and someone tries to steal your food or if you don't give them your food you die well they were trying to live and to live is to kill the killers and that what rick was trying to do don't blame him for killing the saviors in there sleep they were a group of killers
I love the way he says "more than I'm comfortable with", implying theres a very acceptable level of loss of his men that he can sleep soundly at night with.
His voice is like velvet, his stare is so intense and yet so fierce. Now let us all remember, Negan's actions were justified. It wasn't for nothing. He was just gonna do one person, then Daryl made the decision to punch Negan...good job...
@@Reed_0v0_ yeah ik in the show its different. but he was still definitely the most reluctant. those are the only humans he's ever killed in the entire show
Can show: people getting their skulls caved in with a baseball bat and many more gruesome deaths Can’t show: swears. It’s a family show and that sorta stuff is too far
@@UselessCIAagent Not really. Plenty of movies and video games use cursing to make the dialogue actually sound realistic since most people curse especially when put in a stressful situation. Watch any Tarantino movie and tell me you get annoyed by the f word.
@@HoboHunterRik It's not that it's annoying or unnecessary, it's that becomes so repetitive and and eccentric. Like an example of way too much Fuck-bombs were from telltales walking dead game. There was a point of having one in every fucking sentence of dialogue it became so corny and repetitive. It didn't add flare to the dialogue, it just made it seen dead and the producers thought adding in a few "fucks" would give it life. That's just one example.
@@ExceptionallyUndersizedThanos I feel like the no swearing is better. If it had swearing JDM's acting would have to compensate for the swearing. The swearing is so cringey. It's like as middle schooler who just discovered the f-word, and doesn't know how to use it with any subtlety
It's ironic that TWD absolutely NAILED everything about this scene and Negan's introduction yet the entirety of the arc dragged the show down to a point lower than perhaps that of Season 2/the farm. JDM was still the perfect casting choice, this entire arc was supposed to take TWD to an even greater height or at the very least keep the good times rolling but instead it dragged the shit out of everything and turned many people off to the show.
I lasted until halfway through season 8. And am only just getting back to it now. The war with the Saviors just took wayyy too long to get going. It should have been wrapped up by the end of season 7 instead of being dragged out with filler episode after filler episode. You can blame Scott Gimple for that. Angela Kang runs a much tighter ship
@Anon 228 Season 9 and 10 salvaged what monstrosity season 7-8 were in a big way. I'd say season 10 is probably one of the best seasons we've seen since 1-3. Alpha and Beta's character were really brought to life in an unbelievable way and manged to be way better than both of their comic book counterparts.
Unfortunately snow flakes got a hold of this episode and kicked off a shit storm... parents even complaining that their kids were traumatised??? AND I'm like are you people fu king retarded!!! How did you NOT SEE the message at the beginning of every episode. And they actually won as well? If that was me I would've been like fuck off you pc cancerous babies and take your sad little pathetic comments and hates up your arse and just go fuck yourself with them 🖕👍
If you notice, Abraham was the last person to have the bat pointed at him. After that we only see Carl’s and Rick’s expressions. We already knew it won’t be Rick or Carl because Negan said he will cut out Carl’s eye and feed it to Rick if anyone tried to intervene. Abraham’s death was foreshadowed from the start.
Jeffery Dean Morgan's acting really fits with the less vulgar incentive in the show. He does an incredible job with the character and honestly has ripped any preconceived ideas of Negan out of my head and replaced them with his own character. Despite how lack luster the show is at times, there is no boring scene with Negan on screen and that goes to show how absolutely talented and awe-inspiring Jeff is as an actor. I wouldn't say he was born to play Negan, as that would undersell how talented he really is, but I do feel like everything fell into place for his character, and I can tell that he enjoyed playing the tyrant.
Seeing the fear of the other characters add more intensity to this scene. Also Negan seems a lot more collective and calm in the show, which makes him more menacing
Only if Rick didn't act like he was being a hero attacking Neagan's group first. Most of them should still be alive. Negan was only getting revenge for his people
The walking dead always captured all villains in an accurate way, and always picked the best actors. What I mean is that they always have good villains, however negan’s storyline with the war was pretty messy, and that’s a shame because it could’ve been so much better.
the “all out war” arc was so boring, even though Jeffrey Dean Morgan portrayed Negan SO WELL. there were also huge opportunities for Rick and others’ character arcs to make a lot of sense, but it’s like the writers went on vacation and forgot what they were doing with their show.
@@cameronbleecker9072 I've never seen a show getting so disconnected to itself. It's like it devolved into an entirely different show now. As far as villains go, Shane and Negan were the best by far. Simon was a good secondary antagonist, as he was more destructive than Negan and Gareth from Terminus was also a big threat for a short while. The governor had his moments, but felt like a cliché villain with no reason behind his deeds, except being evil. Everyone else ranged from bad to absolutely terrible in terms of both writing and execution, to the point where the writers had to make them kill their own people for no reason in order to show that they are supposed to be a threat (Alpha and Pope for example). I only wanted to finish this show now to finally Conclude with it, but since no new episodes will come out til ca. February 2022 I may as well pass.
@@leesup999 The Governor is universally agreed upon as being the best villain in the whole show. And as far as all of the show villain counterparts to the comics, Governor is easily the one that improved the most in the show. Governor in the comics was just a cartoony pirate who was nothing but evil for the sake of being evil. No depth beyond that whatsoever. In fact I think most of the main villains in the show are a direct improvement to their comic counterparts in either small or very large degrees.
I knew exactly what was gonna happen because of spoilers and i was still terrified when watching that episode. The production and actors completely nailed the stressfull atmosphere of slowly getting captured
Negan is IMO more intimidating without all the over the top swearing. I know that's how it plays out in the comics and I know about the alternate cut of this scene. But here, Negans presence, calm and passive attitude sends more chills. He seems much more unpredictable here.
It was the scariest and most silent introduction of an villain i have ever seen.. .( It was scariest because of the silent environment .. only negan was talking there.. so.. )
I remember the first time I watched this episode, in the final part when the credits appear no song played, the tense of don't know who was killed almost broke me
Jeffery was really into the role, and that made this scene one of the best adaptation from the comics; leaving basically everything unchanged. It really was one of the few moments in the show where it felt like the comic book was coming to life.
As a fan of the book, some changes killed it for me. Mostly Andrea. My favorite book character. Fans of this show will never know what made her great and how sad it was when she died. Because she was an insufferable moron in the show.
Just an FYI that the uncensored version was not released when this video was made. It would have literally been impossible for me to do that version this way. I might make an updated version WITH the uncensored Negan bits sometime in the future. Stay tuned.
Jeffery Dean Morgan is so God damned terrifying. The charisma mixed with lack of fear and abundance of pleasure seriously makes this performance one of the best from a show I've seen.
One thing I gotta give the Walking Dead show credit for is how PERFECTLY CAST a lot of the major characters were (like even though Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Andrew Lincoln don’t look EXACTLY like their comic book counterparts, they captured their essences perfectly to the point where I actually PREFER how a lot of the characters look in the TV show). How Negan was drawn in the comic made me always think of 90s era Steven Seagal (and how the Governor was depicted in the comics made him look more like Danny Trejo).
I agree that when they do the uncensored version it feels a bit cheesy, but them censoring it it really stupid. Like it’s fine to show a guy getting his scull bashed in but you can’t say fuck. And it’s really weird since they said nigger back in season 1
I love how even though in a lot of parts, the TV show has altered so much from the comics, yet they always work out a way to bring it altogether in the end for example, Glen being the only one who died originally, having brought Abraham past his point of death in the show *as Denise was the one who died with his death from the comics* not a lot of people did not imagine 2 , deaths in this episode. But in hindsight I understand completely why it happened. And of course it makes complete sense now lol. However... this i think has to be the most accurate scene to date from the comics ... script and Glenn death, but how they worked abraham and Darryl into the TV version was so clever.
@@qanongroyper1369 Yeah. Negan was Beta-size in the comics. Meanwhile, in the show, he lacked the build his comic counterpart had, but makes up with more psychological/charisma influences (not saying comic Negan don't have it, but it's more present in the show).
Negan (to Carl): "I can't kill you before your story ends. Too fucking interesting." Scott Gimple: "I can. He's only the coolest character in the roster after Daryl. No one would care."
Nobody could have nailed this character the way Jeffrey Dean Morgan did, and this entire sequence when we first see Negan is one of the greatest I’ve ever seen, so chilling. Also the music at 7:34 and Negan’s look sends chills up my spine.
The Walking Dead villains always play their role amazingly. Shane,The Governor,Negan etc it's like they are the characters in the comics born in real life
I just noticed the reason why Simon dropped that gun near to Carl because Negan never thought a child would hold a gun and shoot. Simon intentionally did it since he already didn't like Negan to be the leader of the Saviors he is just waiting for the signal for someone from Rick's team to do it but failed due to their felt terror and tension. 😅
This was hands down and Hats OFF A terrific, unmatched and amazingly intense Tv sequence with unparallel building of horror, suspense and dreadfulness in the heart of audience.. Thanks to the brutal and POWERFUL Performances of cast members, especially by JDM and Andrew! What a Show!!!
This is the first time you see the utmost fear in Rick. Even at terminus, he was still ready to kill everyone, here he knew he was helpless to do anytbing
Even though JDM was great in this scene, you can tell that he wasn't fully in character yet. I remember him saying he had less than 2 weeks to learn that he got the part, learn his lines and shoot the episode. If you watch 6x16 and 7x01 back to back, the difference is night and day. He didn't quite develop Negan's personality, loud mouth, and charisma yet.
I have seen The Walking Dead show, but I haven’t read the comics, nor should I because it contains a lot of swearing, and I honestly don’t like reading books that have swearing in them. Like I remember reading “Dear Martin” during English 1 class in my freshman year of high school, and I was uncomfortable seeing swears in the book because my parents taught me not to swear at school, and it was so weird seeing swearing in a book when I was taught not to swear. Besides, watching the tv show of “The Walking Dead” was enough for me because while it does contain swearing, it’s not as bad as the comics as far as I can tell. I loved seeing “The Walking Dead” on tv, and it was amazing. I normally don’t watch horror movies and tv shows, but something made me want to watch “The Walking Dead,” and I don’t even know what it was. Maybe it’s the acting, maybe it’s the story, maybe it’s the effects, but I honestly don’t know. I honestly prefer the TV version of Negan than the comic version because the comic Negan looks younger and less handsome and charismatic than the tv version. Besides, JDM did a really great job portraying Negan in the show. He’s the key in making the Negan we either love or hate. Without him, I doubt Negan would be a great villain in the series as a whole. The acting was just phenomenal with the help of Andy Lincoln, Norman Reedus, Melissa McBride, Steven Young, etc. Excellent job to everyone who worked hard on this show for us to enjoy!
Every time I see anything from this season it reminds me how cocky Rick was the season prior which ultimately led to abe and glenn’s death. Rick literally went from being cocky to being humbled quickly by negan
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Negan: The only character in existence who could brutally kill off one or two of the best characters in a comic or show and still win over the majority of the audience.
@@baku983 He said 'best' characters.
@@baku983 The reason the Joker killed him was because the fans hated him. He was simply too whiny, and way too dark. I have a copy of Death in the Family. The writers talk all about it in the foreword.
@@baku983 That's debatable. He has his fans as the Red Hood, but many consider him to be a humorless, edgier, low-rent Joker.
@@baku983 I couldn't tell you one way or another, I don't watch Naruto.
@@baku983 It's not that they hate Red Hood, rather, they hate his obsession with trying to be murderous counterpart to Batman, which, arguably, the Joker already was. In addition, due to being Jason Todd, he brings a lot of emotional baggage with him that prevents people from separating Red Hood from Jason Todd. Resultingly, newer fans love Red Hood, older ones hate him.
honestly, best and most intimidating introduction to a villain ever
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Nejk gamessk yeahh no some crap CGI villain is nothing compared to Jeffrey Dean Morgan killing this role as Negan don’t even compare thanos to him Jeffrey on a different level
@@trinililbit12345 negan is funny villian And i also like him but i like others villian too but negan is on 1st place thanos is 2st
Nejk gamessk my favorite is Negan, then Joker ( Heath Ledger ) of course in Batman “ The dark Knight “
Gosh, I cannot imagine Negan without JDM, he so nailed the character.
True
With JDM, a lot of people would like to nail the character
The writting of Negan was greatly inspired on Henry Rollins. He got casted for the role, but JDM was so good they kept him instead.
Can you imagine nailing a part so good that even the guy who inspired the role didnt got it lol
@@Guitaristmalakian That's hilarious
@@Buudoo Not really for Henry Rollins lol
I gotta say. Seeing Rick's fear and desperation, gives me chills. 10/10 acting from Andrew here
Fear for his friends, not for him.
He was so ready to kill Negan
I think Rick thought he had wiped most of negans group out
Absolutely. The show pretty much belongs to Jeffrey Dean Morgan from here stealing the spotlight with his charisma, but this episode (and the next one) belongs to Andrew Lincoln. There's a moment in the trailer, after roadblock 3 I think, where the cameras centred on him touching his face & his expression is haunting. You see it dawning on him right there - Abraham's right, we're done out here.
Deserved every penny he got working those two episodes. Outstanding acting.
@@notcoy true and once he saw the the saviors were a really big group that’s when he realized he killed about a very small percentage of negan’s group
It's just his normal face tbh, nothing much different from his daily face asides from some water on him xd
Can’t imagine how much he had to practice to remember every single line for this characters debut scene and he nailed it
As well as trying not to laugh during most of them.
Fact, Jeffery Dean Morgan only had a week to memorize the monologue
@@leem1076 Holy shit.
@JADE SMITH no shit
@@leem1076 i mean that’s a good amount of time lol
I actually prefer Negan not swearing as often as his comic counter part. It’s way more intimidating to me when someone can remain calm, composed, and articulate during this type of situation.
Some people will argue that in such a post-apocalyptic world, a man-child who commands cult-like respect from his followers tossing around the f-bomb every other sentence would be a real thing that could happen. To those I say I do agree; it is pretty immersive, and if you crave immersion in your zombie tv shows, then kudos to you.
But as I read through Negan's fuck-sprinkled dialogue in the comics, I felt my eyes start to glaze over as the word "fuck" had really lost it's impact a long while ago. Maybe it's just me, but I like my fucks like I like my cunts: used sparingly and with great impact.
@@ieruza Exactly.
Same. In the uncensored version of this scene in the show the swearing feels so forced and stupid. He's way more intimidating without it.
@@ieruza Well said.
Alec Blaylock completely agree. I saw the censored version before I read the comic or saw the uncensored version with JDM swearing and I prefered what i saw first time round, as you say his calmness was more intimidating.
A good example of less is more is the uncensored scene of Rick in the cliff hanger ending at terminus when he said 'when they realised they're fucking with the wrong people' hit home brilliantly so when I saw the censored version with 'messing' it lost that punch.
Let’s be honest, this was one of the most iconic TV show scenes of all time
this is up there with vic mackey shooting terry in the face in ep 1 of the shield.
by that time it was almost the last years of me watching TV in general. Good times indeed.
Stop posting comments using that unoriginal attention-seeking phrase "Let's be honest." Be better and be original with your thoughts.
@@grayfox6518 also, be original with my thoughts? How tf does that even work
There were 8 Mio views on S07E01 and that was the highest viewquote of twd of all time
This is the episode that made me HATE Negan, but LOVE Jeffrey Dean Morgan as an actor. My God he's great!
Fall Spring Agreed 100%.
An actor worth his salt can make you either love him or hate him. He definitely accomplished the latter.
You're going to get to see the other side of the story now. When Negan does this to Alpha you will understand why Negan had to do this in the first place.
Negan was protecting his people from what seemed like just another group of raiders stealing his shit.
If this show would have been through the eyes of Negan, instead of Rick. People would have seen Negan as the good guy in all this.
Fall spring the walking dead made Jeffrey dean morgan famous because they put him in tekken 7 as a playable caracter
Fall Spring well this is the first time in the show you meet Negan lmao
@@playerunkown8699 Now I know this is late, but you are just one "fucking" wrong 'fucking' asshole. Just because you first saw him on TWD, doesn't make him famous now... He was already a known actor, it's how he got the role... I remember him as the Winchester's father and the cigar dude on Watchmen. He was also on uncaged, but you probably don't know any other source of media but TWD. Idk why, but people like you are asshats to me. "This famous actor didn't get famous till this" like wut? Do you know how stupid you sound?
They casted Negan perfectly. I cannot imagine anyone else portraying Negan the way Jeffrey Dean Morgan does. Whoever casted him deserves some praise.
Not even just negan literally every role in the show
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Probably Javier Bardem but he would take the role too seriously
@@plostinarudragos3973he was good in no country for old men
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I must be getting old because Negan swearing so much in the comic is far more annoying than it is intimidating. Love the change in dialogue in the show.
@Benjamin Tjaa Pretty sure it isn't.
i think it's fits comic negan more because he's portrayed as immature and silly most of the time.Think, deadpool. Tv show negan isn't as silly. He makes jokes yes but it mostly seems like a mask he wears to manipulate people. Comic negan is genuinely an immature asshole.
It's more intimidating how calm he sounds with the occasional "shit" thrown in. Constantly saying fuck just makes him sound edgy.
Nah
the annoyance is part of the makeup of the character. he's not supposed to be cool. he is supposed to be an over-grown teenager who thinks swearing make him look badass. Remember this the apocalypse with those in control are not supposed to be. That guy was probably a grade-A loser in real life and now he ends up on top at the end of days cause he's a sadistic Mother Fker. But he's still not fully developped as a human.
Back when Negan was a ruthless dictator. Now he's a laid back father figure
That's good :/
BUSTER He didn’t say that was bad
Not willingly though.
Crypto yea they toned him down a lot I’m not sure how much he changed in the books but it felt like a 180 especially after the season 7 mid season finally when he was all like working people to death and next episode he decides stop antagonizing the workers
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Carl be like anyone gonna use that eye
My question is....why did he say *cut the boys other eye out* making me think it was carl but they show us glen with 2 perfectly good working eyes! *is there something im missing here*
@@NANA-ut3oy yes when negan says cut the boys other eye out his referring to Carl because he only has one eye
He said that if anyone interrupted the execution he would cut Carl's eye out and feed it to rick
I choked when I read this sht 😂😂😂
@@NANA-ut3oy are u dumb?
Jeffrey dean Morgan smashed this role.
He was born for it
Just like Lucille smashed Abe and Glenn
Literally
*very poor choice of words*
@@notnero5280 Was gonna say "Badum-tss" but you beat me to it. lol
To Carl- “I can’t kill you before your story ends. Too fucking interesting.”
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One of the worst decisions of the show. Practically killed it for me
Exactly. Comics are much better. Rick’s death is so much more meaningful, and its all together better.
@@Jack-hd6vh I'm not a fan of how he died but I did enjoy seeing adult Carl with his daughter
@@Jack-hd6vh I wouldn’t say *much* better because the show does some things better than the comics. But yeah, Carl really shouldn’t have been killed off even though it led to a better ending of the war in the show.
@@guilhermehank4938 Wasn't it because the actor wanted out? If that's the case you really can't do much about it
I liked that part in the comics where Maggie asked "Rick?" and this was the first time Rick choked as their leader.
What could he do?
@@avisco01 nothing obv this bix dramatic
Oh this is not the first and only time Rick choked as a leader. The comics may be different but show Rick really fucked up at the prison. Instead of just shooting that prisoner he leaves it up to chance that the walkers are gonna kill him in a fenced area that with 2 seconds of scanning he'd have known he'd climb over that shit. Then that prisoner sabotages the prison and T dog and Lori die. Then he tries reasoning with the governor and that goes horribly south too when he should have known better.
@@Xunersitonot gonna lie lori would die any ways because the baby was not ready to get birth
Great bit. She looks towards her leader and friend in desperation and he can’t do anything.
Wow, it's almost word for word.
Ryan Hartwell it is
Ryan Hartwell Most adaptation almost are word for word
Can't tell if it lazy writing or not 😁
The comics came first than the show idiots
*EXCEPT* for the cuss words
It's amazing how well Jeffery Dean Morgan brings negan character to life
I like that he doesn't cuss as much and maintains a cool demeanor. It just add to the tension, makes you uncertain when he's gonna snap.
He did cuss brother in the dvd Version on Netflix it's different
Honestly, after watching the uncensored version, the censored version just feels more intimidating, where we know he's not playing.
Righttttt
@Joel but that's the point, Negan doesn't take it seriously, he simply doesn't care about what happens or what he says, he's not a villain, he's supposed to be immature, show doesn't show that well and when they try and do something like comics did, they shift Negans whole personality
@@womanrespecter1045 yeah, the introduction in the show is pretty cool, and it's not a bad idea to make him a more serious threatening character than the comics if they change enough of the story to justify it, but the writing in the show is just dogshit and makes the character inconsistent by leaving his comicbook personality intact in some scenes which is different than the character established in his introduction, or just make shit up that doesn't make any sense, waste of a good performance really.
@@ginogatash4030 I disagree tbh
'' This, This is lucille and she's is awesome'', Yep Glenn keep that in mind.
literally
oh he kept it in his mind alright
@@southhoney Ooooooh. 😯😆
I thought he said "wholesome"!
Mindblown
What I missed from the show was Rick's highly motivated "We are indestructible" speech after killing a horde, a statement Negan utterly destroyed.
like tyson said everyones got a plan till they get punched in the face.
@@orgasmatronrickpsych Or a bat to their head lol
@@Capt.RedBeard that too lol
I kinda like it more in TV because he doesn't swear as much, so he sounds bit more intimidating. They obviously did it for tv censors, but it kinda ended up being better. Also Jeff's acting was spot on, if you think about it, he's having a monologue for like 10 minutes and he manages to keep your attention.
that was literally my favorite scene ever watching tv. that and the next episode months later lol
@Thawne 🤷♂️
@Thawne I’m scared!
@Thawne lmao wtf
@Thawne lmao wtf
This might be a controversial opinion, but I actually like that the show killed two characters, because it emphasizes the intimidation factor of Negan, and also reminds the audience that anyone can die at any moment
Plus both kills weren't random either. He picked Abraham and Glenn got himself killed for having an outburst first. Negan said he would shut that shit down and well Daryll put the finishing touches on that lol
@@MistahJay7 Glenn got killed because if he didn't, Maggie and Rick and Negan don't get their development.
It's adds a whole new kind of risk seeing your favourite character and negan in the same scene
I dont like it, cause Grenn's death overshadowed Abraham's too much in my oppinion
As much as I get your point, the two characters they killed--both dead after this point in the comics--felt like suuuch a lazy decision in terms of writing. They had potential to do more with either, but decided to do that to play it waayy too safe.
During his introduction, Negan was universally hated by the fandom for what he did to Glenn. Now, he’s one of the most beloved characters in the show.
I don't understand people who hate villains for killing charachters. Not appreciating a villain because you can't see beyond the fact that they killed someone is just dumb😂
@KeyUploads I'm looking
@@kc_h7hI’m pretty sure you are the villain bruh
@@lifelike6423the villain are the best
@@lifelike6423the villain are the best
It's kinda crazy to me how actors remember such a long dialog and stay in character for the entire scene 10/10 acting and good and great show
honestly. i have read this issue so many times, i even have it memorized !!
the sound of the bat always gets me.
bonk
@@user-zm5um8ln4e lol
@@user-zm5um8ln4e lmao I was just about to comment that.
it's just ... it gives such horrible chills
if u listen close its almost speaking
One of the most brutal moments in cable TV history.
This was movie quality violence. Honestly made me shudder the first time I saw this. Took me a couple days to come around to the idea that Negan really wasn't all that bad of a guy.
We just are watching the story through Rick's eyes.
If it was through Negan's eyes we would have seen another group attack our group, kill our friends, and watch them steal our friends stuff. Point of view is very important.
And we are going to see that now with The Whisperer arch.
the whisperers is different, alpha is just ruthless
lol you kidding ? Negan's group attacked first.. Did you even watch the show?
It was more effective in the show than the comics, because there was much more of Rick and the others actively mass murdering those guys without a second thought or remorse, and planning it.
Looking objectively... Negan had the reasons to kill them. But no sane person can truly accept the way he did it, smashing people heads in front of their friends...beloved.. making jokes about it and laugh. C'mon that's not a revenge, that's the sadistic diabolical shit. Rick started a war, killed his enemies, so kill them back the same way, that would make much more sense.
Imaging living in apocalypse not much to eat and someone tries to steal your food or if you don't give them your food you die well they were trying to live and to live is to kill the killers and that what rick was trying to do don't blame him for killing the saviors in there sleep they were a group of killers
I love the way he says "more than I'm comfortable with", implying theres a very acceptable level of loss of his men that he can sleep soundly at night with.
Problem is he killed too many of them.
strawman
His voice is like velvet, his stare is so intense and yet so fierce. Now let us all remember, Negan's actions were justified. It wasn't for nothing. He was just gonna do one person, then Daryl made the decision to punch Negan...good job...
literally chose the one dude who hates killing people and prolly had the lowest body count....not counting abraham smh
@@mohammedbasith4689 exactly, a bad man wouldn't feel for the ones he took.
@@Reed_0v0_ glenn deserved that beating the least of all the guys in that lineup. even carl is more violent than him
@@mohammedbasith4689 He was also part of the shooting in the Santuary. So it's fair game for anyone
@@Reed_0v0_ yeah ik in the show its different. but he was still definitely the most reluctant. those are the only humans he's ever killed in the entire show
5:50 "this is Lucille, and she's awesome"
Glenn: "got a bad feeling about that..."
Can show: people getting their skulls caved in with a baseball bat and many more gruesome deaths
Can’t show: swears. It’s a family show and that sorta stuff is too far
Yeh but if he swears in every sentence it's gonna get annoying.
@@UselessCIAagent Not really. Plenty of movies and video games use cursing to make the dialogue actually sound realistic since most people curse especially when put in a stressful situation. Watch any Tarantino movie and tell me you get annoyed by the f word.
Better let the kid play some GTA or it will get nightmares.
@@HoboHunterRik It's not that it's annoying or unnecessary, it's that becomes so repetitive and and eccentric. Like an example of way too much Fuck-bombs were from telltales walking dead game. There was a point of having one in every fucking sentence of dialogue it became so corny and repetitive. It didn't add flare to the dialogue, it just made it seen dead and the producers thought adding in a few "fucks" would give it life. That's just one example.
@@MforMovesets Having a response like that clearly shows that you're too dense to understand what the conversation actually is here.
That's the censored version
I am aware. The bluray hadn't been released yet when i made this.
AJINX remake it please lol and upload the alternate deaths
The excessive swearing in the uncensored version feels so forced and stupid in the show. It doesn't work for the show.
@@1Chasg I agree lol... Jeff Morgan's good enough to accommodate the lesser amount of swearing.
@@ExceptionallyUndersizedThanos I feel like the no swearing is better.
If it had swearing JDM's acting would have to compensate for the swearing. The swearing is so cringey. It's like as middle schooler who just discovered the f-word, and doesn't know how to use it with any subtlety
It's ironic that TWD absolutely NAILED everything about this scene and Negan's introduction yet the entirety of the arc dragged the show down to a point lower than perhaps that of Season 2/the farm.
JDM was still the perfect casting choice, this entire arc was supposed to take TWD to an even greater height or at the very least keep the good times rolling but instead it dragged the shit out of everything and turned many people off to the show.
I lasted until halfway through season 8. And am only just getting back to it now. The war with the Saviors just took wayyy too long to get going. It should have been wrapped up by the end of season 7 instead of being dragged out with filler episode after filler episode. You can blame Scott Gimple for that. Angela Kang runs a much tighter ship
@Anon 228 Season 9 and 10 salvaged what monstrosity season 7-8 were in a big way. I'd say season 10 is probably one of the best seasons we've seen since 1-3. Alpha and Beta's character were really brought to life in an unbelievable way and manged to be way better than both of their comic book counterparts.
Yeah man this was such a good start to the season aswell. 9 and 10 have been great though.
Yea my dad stopped watching after season 7 and I can't get him to catch up
Unfortunately snow flakes got a hold of this episode and kicked off a shit storm... parents even complaining that their kids were traumatised??? AND I'm like are you people fu king retarded!!! How did you NOT SEE the message at the beginning of every episode. And they actually won as well? If that was me I would've been like fuck off you pc cancerous babies and take your sad little pathetic comments and hates up your arse and just go fuck yourself with them 🖕👍
If you notice, Abraham was the last person to have the bat pointed at him. After that we only see Carl’s and Rick’s expressions. We already knew it won’t be Rick or Carl because Negan said he will cut out Carl’s eye and feed it to Rick if anyone tried to intervene.
Abraham’s death was foreshadowed from the start.
This is the GREATEST scene of the whole series because of the respect it has for the source material dialog
he doesn’t say fuck once though and the comics he litro says it all the time
@@leesup999 not any of the characters say fuck on the show
@@m3tz271 rick says it when they’re chasing jesus when he steals the truck 😂
@@leesup999 he does say it a lot but this is the censed version for tv
There will never be another:
Blade like Wesley
Rocky like Sylvester
or Negan like Jeffrey Dean
Heath ledger joker
punisher like shane ;)
@@orgasmatronrickpsych yessssir
Or Crow like Brandon Lee
@@devilboy648not accurate, but ok
Jeffery Dean Morgan's acting really fits with the less vulgar incentive in the show. He does an incredible job with the character and honestly has ripped any preconceived ideas of Negan out of my head and replaced them with his own character. Despite how lack luster the show is at times, there is no boring scene with Negan on screen and that goes to show how absolutely talented and awe-inspiring Jeff is as an actor. I wouldn't say he was born to play Negan, as that would undersell how talented he really is, but I do feel like everything fell into place for his character, and I can tell that he enjoyed playing the tyrant.
Seeing the fear of the other characters add more intensity to this scene. Also Negan seems a lot more collective and calm in the show, which makes him more menacing
I wonder if the original script of this episode was exactly like the comics, but Jeffrey Dean Morgan improvised some of them.
They have two versions one with f bombs one without
@@marvinragen cool!
people can talk all the shit about this episode but no one can deny this is the most terrifying episode of the show.
The way he talks sometimes sounds like a coach in highschool and with him being one before the apocalypse i can see how it works well
That’s because he was a coach in high school 🙂
Tru
@@ItsCreaidanthat’s what he just said
@@Spectrolm60 He moreso implied, but that's ok. I get what you're trying to say.
dont act like you predicted something
Honestly i love how negan on tv show isnt swearing as much it would make him look just like a dumb bandit but in tv show he sounds more of a gentlemam
Watch the uncensored version. It's not comical at all. It's just as brutal.
Only if Rick didn't act like he was being a hero attacking Neagan's group first. Most of them should still be alive. Negan was only getting revenge for his people
Eh, Negan was still going to kill them anyways. Scouts were already going to alexandria to ask for half of their shit but Carol killed them.
@@capncook2006 no he wasn't began is a good guy
@@noexceptions8438 Negan kills members of communities wether they do anything or not
@@capncook2006 so does rick
@@noexceptions8438
When has rick ever done that in the show
The ambience for this scene with the subtle noises of shock were so good and built up character so well
The walking dead always captured all villains in an accurate way, and always picked the best actors. What I mean is that they always have good villains, however negan’s storyline with the war was pretty messy, and that’s a shame because it could’ve been so much better.
the “all out war” arc was so boring, even though Jeffrey Dean Morgan portrayed Negan SO WELL. there were also huge opportunities for Rick and others’ character arcs to make a lot of sense, but it’s like the writers went on vacation and forgot what they were doing with their show.
@@cameronbleecker9072 I've never seen a show getting so disconnected to itself. It's like it devolved into an entirely different show now. As far as villains go, Shane and Negan were the best by far. Simon was a good secondary antagonist, as he was more destructive than Negan and Gareth from Terminus was also a big threat for a short while. The governor had his moments, but felt like a cliché villain with no reason behind his deeds, except being evil. Everyone else ranged from bad to absolutely terrible in terms of both writing and execution, to the point where the writers had to make them kill their own people for no reason in order to show that they are supposed to be a threat (Alpha and Pope for example). I only wanted to finish this show now to finally Conclude with it, but since no new episodes will come out til ca. February 2022 I may as well pass.
they didn’t really do well with the governer however negan they did superb with
@@leesup999 The Governor is universally agreed upon as being the best villain in the whole show. And as far as all of the show villain counterparts to the comics, Governor is easily the one that improved the most in the show. Governor in the comics was just a cartoony pirate who was nothing but evil for the sake of being evil. No depth beyond that whatsoever. In fact I think most of the main villains in the show are a direct improvement to their comic counterparts in either small or very large degrees.
@@gagetaylor192The governor arc was bloated and horrible in the show. I felt the character was more absurd and cartoony in the show.
I knew exactly what was gonna happen because of spoilers and i was still terrified when watching that episode. The production and actors completely nailed the stressfull atmosphere of slowly getting captured
Negan is IMO more intimidating without all the over the top swearing. I know that's how it plays out in the comics and I know about the alternate cut of this scene. But here, Negans presence, calm and passive attitude sends more chills. He seems much more unpredictable here.
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B@@crxybam
It was the scariest and most silent introduction of an villain i have ever seen.. .( It was scariest because of the silent environment .. only negan was talking there.. so.. )
I remember the first time I watched this episode, in the final part when the credits appear no song played, the tense of don't know who was killed almost broke me
Jeffery was really into the role, and that made this scene one of the best adaptation from the comics; leaving basically everything unchanged.
It really was one of the few moments in the show where it felt like the comic book was coming to life.
As a fan of the book, some changes killed it for me. Mostly Andrea. My favorite book character. Fans of this show will never know what made her great and how sad it was when she died.
Because she was an insufferable moron in the show.
The ending of that season was some of the best television I've ever seen.
My first thought when I saw this was, "When Jeffery Dean Morgan get so tall!?!"
He’s, uhhhh, 6’1”. He’s a decently tall guy.
He’s also hot.
@@alexman378 6'2
Lionheart Boi Even better, even though I got 6’1” on my Google search, 1,85 cm, which is exactly my height as well, so where did you get 6’2” from?
@@alexman378 Some websites say JDM is 6'2 (I read that from famousbirthsdeaths) but you're right. Some do say he's 6'1
Great comparison!
Thank You!
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Just an FYI that the uncensored version was not released when this video was made. It would have literally been impossible for me to do that version this way. I might make an updated version WITH the uncensored Negan bits sometime in the future. Stay tuned.
Jeffery Dean Morgan is so God damned terrifying. The charisma mixed with lack of fear and abundance of pleasure seriously makes this performance one of the best from a show I've seen.
Shane: *Rubs head*
Rick: "Cooorrraalll"
Negan: *leans back*
One thing I gotta give the Walking Dead show credit for is how PERFECTLY CAST a lot of the major characters were (like even though Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Andrew Lincoln don’t look EXACTLY like their comic book counterparts, they captured their essences perfectly to the point where I actually PREFER how a lot of the characters look in the TV show).
How Negan was drawn in the comic made me always think of 90s era Steven Seagal (and how the Governor was depicted in the comics made him look more like Danny Trejo).
JDM made the character his own, but man the way he holds everyone’s attention is just like his teacher background.
was that many f-bombs really necessary in the comics? if they included every fbomb in the tv show it would sound more like an eminem song
No Regrets they added him saying the f word in the uncut version on dvd.
It's a show set in a lawless land and you think people would be more inclined to swear less? Please stop smoking cannabis
I agree that when they do the uncensored version it feels a bit cheesy, but them censoring it it really stupid. Like it’s fine to show a guy getting his scull bashed in but you can’t say fuck. And it’s really weird since they said nigger back in season 1
That is how people talk dummy
You're ok with someone getting their head bashed in with a bat but saying fuck is too much for you???
i remember so vividly waiting what seemed like forever for the new season to reveal who died…i still get goosebumps watching it ugh
Dude that introduction. This actor and the comic artist are amazing. Very good job.
This guy is such an amazing actor.
I love how even though in a lot of parts, the TV show has altered so much from the comics, yet they always work out a way to bring it altogether in the end for example, Glen being the only one who died originally, having brought Abraham past his point of death in the show *as Denise was the one who died with his death from the comics* not a lot of people did not imagine 2 , deaths in this episode. But in hindsight I understand completely why it happened. And of course it makes complete sense now lol. However... this i think has to be the most accurate scene to date from the comics ... script and Glenn death, but how they worked abraham and Darryl into the TV version was so clever.
Negan not swearing makes him more intimidating.
It doesn’t really matter when you’re 6’5 and a heavyweight like comic Negan. His size is already intimidating to begin with.
@@qanongroyper1369 Yeah. Negan was Beta-size in the comics. Meanwhile, in the show, he lacked the build his comic counterpart had, but makes up with more psychological/charisma influences (not saying comic Negan don't have it, but it's more present in the show).
Negan (to Carl): "I can't kill you before your story ends. Too fucking interesting."
Scott Gimple: "I can. He's only the coolest character in the roster after Daryl. No one would care."
Ugh
Coolest character after Daryl? Lolol yall all hated Carl before they killed him off
stop the cap
I liked him since he got the hat
@@MistahJay7 Well I didn't.
Nobody could have nailed this character the way Jeffrey Dean Morgan did, and this entire sequence when we first see Negan is one of the greatest I’ve ever seen, so chilling. Also the music at 7:34 and Negan’s look sends chills up my spine.
Jeffrey dean morgan said he actually has read the comics and enjoyed them. So he deff knows how to play negan.
This scene really had my heart race when I first watched it
I still remember how traumatic this scenes is the first time I wacth it. Truly the finest act of Jeffrey Morgan
The best scene of the whole serie
Thanks for the edit !
Fun fact: On the DVD/uncut version of this episode (6-16) is more faithful to the comics cause it keeps the F-bombs
Censors "fucking" but shows Negan smashing two heads with baseball bat. Not cool... not fucking cool.
The Walking Dead villains always play their role amazingly. Shane,The Governor,Negan etc it's like they are the characters in the comics born in real life
Comic Negan's dialogues be like RUclips Shorts' subtitles.
honestly pretty natural comic dialogue that translated to the screen really well, with the help of a greaat actor of course
I just noticed the reason why Simon dropped that gun near to Carl because Negan never thought a child would hold a gun and shoot. Simon intentionally did it since he already didn't like Negan to be the leader of the Saviors he is just waiting for the signal for someone from Rick's team to do it but failed due to their felt terror and tension. 😅
This was hands down and Hats OFF A terrific, unmatched and amazingly intense Tv sequence with unparallel building of horror, suspense and dreadfulness in the heart of audience.. Thanks to the brutal and POWERFUL Performances of cast members, especially by JDM and Andrew! What a Show!!!
It's been years since I've watched that scene in its entirety. I had forgotten how intense that scene was.
I feel like Negan is more intimidating without the excessive swearing because instead of being in your face all the time he has this erratic anger.
For the first time I am actually happy that they censored the swearing, the uncensored is like a Helluva boss episode xd
This is the first time you see the utmost fear in Rick. Even at terminus, he was still ready to kill everyone, here he knew he was helpless to do anytbing
"when i sent my people to kill your people for killing my people you killed even more of my people"😂
The longer Rick’s beard is, the more trauma he’s going through
Even though JDM was great in this scene, you can tell that he wasn't fully in character yet. I remember him saying he had less than 2 weeks to learn that he got the part, learn his lines and shoot the episode. If you watch 6x16 and 7x01 back to back, the difference is night and day. He didn't quite develop Negan's personality, loud mouth, and charisma yet.
MFBloosh yea but it was still cool
except they were shot the same week
I can’t believe this was five years ago, time flies!!
I just find it cool how actors or people with a speech can memorize their lines so easily
Negan is the most likable counterpart to ever existed
4:59 pov you're not growing a garden
Man negan was a real intimidating villain
Greatest intro to a villain ever
I have seen The Walking Dead show, but I haven’t read the comics, nor should I because it contains a lot of swearing, and I honestly don’t like reading books that have swearing in them. Like I remember reading “Dear Martin” during English 1 class in my freshman year of high school, and I was uncomfortable seeing swears in the book because my parents taught me not to swear at school, and it was so weird seeing swearing in a book when I was taught not to swear. Besides, watching the tv show of “The Walking Dead” was enough for me because while it does contain swearing, it’s not as bad as the comics as far as I can tell. I loved seeing “The Walking Dead” on tv, and it was amazing. I normally don’t watch horror movies and tv shows, but something made me want to watch “The Walking Dead,” and I don’t even know what it was. Maybe it’s the acting, maybe it’s the story, maybe it’s the effects, but I honestly don’t know. I honestly prefer the TV version of Negan than the comic version because the comic Negan looks younger and less handsome and charismatic than the tv version. Besides, JDM did a really great job portraying Negan in the show. He’s the key in making the Negan we either love or hate. Without him, I doubt Negan would be a great villain in the series as a whole. The acting was just phenomenal with the help of Andy Lincoln, Norman Reedus, Melissa McBride, Steven Young, etc. Excellent job to everyone who worked hard on this show for us to enjoy!
negan is just funny and badass honestly one of my favorite villains now
They should have retold this through Negan's eyes and made rick look the the evil one in this arch
Does the dvd version cuss more because I know for streaming it has to be changed
Finished war with negan in comics and started season 3 of the show cannot wait to come to this part in show it was my favourite story arc in comics
This is how teachers should be introducing themselves to their classrooms at the beginning of the school year.
I agree , Negan is more intimidating without the swearing..Holy shit its Awesome 😁
Every time I see anything from this season it reminds me how cocky Rick was the season prior which ultimately led to abe and glenn’s death. Rick literally went from being cocky to being humbled quickly by negan
Love the casting for Negan in the show, he’s really intimidating, wish he could’ve sworn more
Imo the less swearing was more intimidating because if you swear too much you just sound goofy
As soon as he said give me your stuff, I would’ve started taking off my shoes, you can have my shirt, everything!😂
Negan gotta be one of the best villians ever man. Real joker like. Talked shit but meant everything he said