Jon Bernthal Wept When He Was Killed Off "The Walking Dead" | Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend
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- Jon shares how he reacted to the news that his character would be killed off "The Walking Dead" not once, but twice. Hear more from this episode @ listen.teamcoco.com/bernthaltwd
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But those who have never read the comic book, he doesn’t even last five issues. For that matter Carl shoot him in the neck when he was getting into an argument with Rick. So this character got way more exposure thanks to the TV show.
😆
Who cares.
When adaptation doesn't have to be faithful
And for those that read the comic they'll also see many other characters being changed. So thats not really relevant. They killed him off and ricks wife because they backed the writer they fired.
@@julian089 you cared enough to ask
I didn’t know who Jon Bernthal was before Walking Dead. Now, he’s one of my favorite actors.
No one did
that was his breakout role, he wasnt well known until then. now every director wants him
he had a couple cameos one failed pilot
He’s great on the punisher also
Honestly he is great in anything ive seen him in. Really kills it in the new show from the writers of the wire "we own this city" show isn't on the same level of the wire but he completely steals it from his first scene to last.
Shane was such a catalyst for Rick, and honestly Shane was the only character that I missed. When Shane and Rick were in sync they were unstoppable and things felt safe.
catalyst for Rick fits so well here
@@hashmi4275 can't wait to see it yeah I know but I am not a zombie fan so I resisted watching it now because of Jon I cant leave it any longer
@@helen9289 yeah the zombie thing is far fetched but the show is really strong! give it a chance, i almost promise you will dig it
You are so right. I was so mad when they killed his character.
I always look back on the conflict they faced after Shane died and it would’ve been interesting to see him develop and how he’d act when Lori died.
Shane made the first two seasons of TWD absolutely awesome. Sad we couldn't see more of him, but dang, what a character arc.
I know I wonder how he would’ve reacted when they came across negan
@jimmyfromplaystation3629 Negan would have kill him immediately. He would peg him for a threat the second they met. On the upside he might spare Glenn or Abraham.
@@day7053 - Agreed. He took out Abraham, because other than Rick, he was the greatest threat. He would have taken out Shane in heartbeat!
@@day7053idk because if Abraham was there he wasn’t gonna back down so he would make eye contact and have his chest poked out. But if Negan knew Shane was Rick’s best friend he would’ve tried but Shane would’ve attacked. He’s not gonna allow Negan to just swing the bat.
Bernthal is the epitome of “don’t judge a book by its cover”
no he’s just changed
nothing wrong with that cover either !!!!
what is this talking about
@@jcshark7023 idk maybe cause he plays charachters that are usualy bad like the punisher or shane, but he is a really nice chill dude irl??? thats just a guess but it also seems kinda back handed of them to say lol
@@jcshark7023 Jon Bernthal played Shane in Season 1 of the Walking Dead. He got killed and turned into a zombie, and then killed again. He was the best character on the whole show.
I met Jon Bernthal at a comic con in Chicago.
He is legit one of the coolest dudes I've ever met.
Ur so lucky
It's comic con...he's supposed to be himself
Really hope Jon understands he’s one of the shows greatest characters ever and will be enshrined in everyone’s memories. He’s one of my favorite actors now 🙏🏻🙏🏻
And he portrayed a very good Punisher.
(I swear, the MCU will *taint and tarnish* him once he comes back)
Ya fr he's the only reason i didn't stop watching after seeing how shi twd season 2 was
No he's not missed
@@iam-v8498 very few dislike season 2. You are in that minority. Therefore, your trash opinion doesn't matter🤡
@@liamphibia Very Good? he was a perfect punisher
Not only was Shane a glimpse into the future of what the characters needed to become to survive but his death also was the cherry on top for Rick to fully realize what the Doctor in Atlanta said to him. That everyone was already infected.
Jon Bernthal was excellent as Shane, but as far as morality, Shane was never supposed to be a character that anyone should aspire to be. Shane was planning to murder Rick to take his wife and son. Rick’s evolution never led to him being anywhere near as morally bankrupt as Shane.
Jon did a Q&A after a film he starred in a few months ago here in LA and he couldnt have been a nicer guy. He really gave himself to the audience in the conversation he was having with the moderator and even stayed afterwards to meet people (which never happens at these things, especially if youre that big of a star). Solid dude.
Have you seen his episode of the talk show Hot Ones? It's fantastic
@@Misadventures_85 came to say this
@@Misadventures_85 have you seen him in actual interviews? hes amazing and always listens to the other person.
he even locks himself in with deep conversations with shia and his addictions / experience as a child actor. its pretty crazy we as a society praise such simple concepts like that are genuinely so rare in day to day interactions.
Jon did EXACTLY what he was supposed to do. He made us fall in love with a character that honestly could’ve been forgettable. He brought that character to life. He got killed off but he gained fans of his work and he’s forever immortalized in TWD. Plus we’ll watch whatever he’s in now because of how awesome he was on the show.
should’ve been forgettable considered he barely lasted 5 issues in the comics but this guy is just too good at what he does made the best character of the first seasons
@@peterschultz8213 Reminds me of Travis Fimmel from Vikings as Ragnar. Hirst (show runner) was going to kill him off at the end of the first season, saw how good of an actor he was and realized he couldn't kill him off as it would be a waste of his talent, as well as would probably make season 2 flop lol.
If Jon’s character was kept in the show, he probably wouldn’t have peaked any more than a tv star.
By moving on from the show, this enabled him to become an A-list celebrity on the big screen. His talent has been show cased in different projects.
A lot of times people get way too caught up on a door closing on them metaphorically, failing to realize they will probably make a larger impact elsewhere.
Great perspective you got there. Fully agree! 👍
This is true. What movies has the guy who played Rick, Maggie, or even Negan been in? They haven't since TWD. There isn't anything to them.
Excellent point. For his character I agree. As fans we may say what would Shane have done there...he lives on...as Judith's daddy
@@Ravenbones andrew lincoln(rick) played his character for a decade and decided to leave for his family and now he's back making a movies, Lauren Cohan(Maggie) did a tv show(i dont remember whats the title) other than twd and while in twd she portrayed the role of martha wayne in BatmanVSuperman and lastly JDM(Negan) he's in FALL movie
@@Ravenbones Andrew Lincoln just left so that he could spend time with his family. Lauren Cohan was in supernatural before and was Martha Wayne in the BVS. JDM, similar thing, he was Thomas Wayne, in Supernatural, he played the comedian in watchmen before TWD, and he’s about to be in the boys season 4. I think Jon would still be one of the people that would find work outside of TWD if he was on the show longer.
Him being killed so early on the walking dead was the best thing to happen to career. If he was stuck on that show, he probably wouldn’t had have time to end up in big movies like wolf of walk street (even though small role) end up being the punisher etc. he is without a doubt the biggest “mainstream” name to come out the show today
I guy has roles in so many damn movies, it’s actually insane. I go to the theaters at-least once a month and he somehow slithers into a role in the movie I go see 😂
Yeah , I love Andrew Lincoln and he is 100% just as talented as Jon Bernthal but he has pretty much only played Rick Grimes in the past 10 years. I hope he gets opportunities after the show is done but it may be hard for people to not see him as Rick
He gained my respect the moment he said he doesn't want to portray Punisher in shitty Disney MCU because he knew they were going to turn his character into some sorry ass joke being tossed around by others, not like Charlie Cox who sold his ass out for a big paycheck and toxic fandom.
Yeah, him, Steven, and Danai definitely got the best careers post The Walking Dead.
@@BenDaGoat Steven was already incredibly successful even before TWD, because of GTA.
Glad he mentioned Scott Wilson Rest in Peace Hershel
First two seasons of TWD is some of the best TV ever done. And Jon Bernthal had a HUGE part in it. Spectacular performance. Even if he turned into the antagonist, I absolutely loved his character. It actually made me sad when he got killed off.
Him being the antagonist is where the writing became truly great. Every time him and Rick were at odds, I was at the edge of my seat in anticipation.
Ok ur pushing it with best💀
Nope he was good but others made those 2 seasons
@@ONEWRESTLINGNATION_OWNITMaybe not in Season 1 but his role as Shane was easily the highlight of Season 2.
@@coolman4589100% I felt like season 2 was alright. Almost mid to me personally but definitely not the best television we’ve ever gotten
Man, Jon is such a humble, nice guy...he deserves all his success
Loved Jon in Fury. Underrated performance. Underrated movie.
John is really a good actor. He was phenomenal in We Own This City. He needs to be in more shows and movies.
Oh boy he’s in a lot of movies and tv shows and he has his own podcast now
Shane is love❤
totally agree he lights up the screen so much that you just want him in every scene in the movie or show & when he isn't on screen you just keep waiting for him to appear again !!!
For an unknown actor to be cast in a show that luckily hits, and staple himself to the part in such a profound way. His Shane character was the perfect audition to more incredible roles. I'm so happy for Jon's success, and the successes of all the other TWD alumni.
I like how he pointed out his disappointment and sadness of being killed off...but also expressed his gratitude, appreciation for being part of TWD.
I just really want Jon Bernthal to have a solid blocker buster role. Punisher was cancelled far too early and he’s such an insane actor!
Hoping he returns as punisher. He was amazing in that role
@@Saiyan1229 he will return as the punisher, if Daredevil Born again is a success.
@@jokester3076 no they should leave Punisher alone, MCU will make his character into a freaking joke, plus Jon already stated he doesn't want to return for MSheU Punisher projects.
@@martinlopez2816 jon stated he wasn't interested in returning as the punisher unless it was done right, he wants it to be how it was, not PG
so if disney does end up making a 3rd season and they don't take out the brutality in the show hopefully jon would be willing to return, I don't see why disney would take away the brutality since season 1 and 2 are on disney+
Shane's legacy lives inside Rick, Carl, Carol, and Judith. He was a big influence in their lives and shaped who they would later become. His presence is still felt in the show because of how good a character he was.
Carl died way back in season 8...
@@haydeng3541 That doesn't change what I said...
@@AlejoConejo-vb8ln "lives"
I agree except the part about Carol
@@nathanskywalker1536 He was the one who beat up her abusive husband and showed her that in this new world she can fight back and be powerful. He was also there to console her while she was grieving Sophia after the barn. He cleaned her hands and apologized to her and all. Carol was questioning Rick's leadership at the end of S2 because she was on Shane's side or at least she would've been if he had lived. My point is, he was the one who pushed her into the path of becoming a warrior, the first of many.
He really took one for the team - Shane’s character and death was pivotal to the trajectory of what TWD became
Jon should absolutely be proud. The Walking Dead is landmark television that will be talked about for a long, long time, and Shane's character was a pillar of what really hooked audiences in, gave the show its dramatic chops, and gave it the legs to go on for 11 pretty fair to excellent seasons. Shane vs Rick is the foundation of this show's entire theme.
His character may of died but it certainly lives on. People still talk about Shane. And there's tons of What If Shane Was Still Alive or How Would Shane Handle Negan Or Beta.. If Jon ever sees those videos or articles, he's got to think that's pretty cool.
#ShaneWasRight
You're right. I remember watching that show and yelling at Rick to embrace his inner Shane!!! And when Rick finally did it was so epic
Jon will always be a character to remember in the show! After he left, so many opportunities opened up for him. Such a great actor.
His character was memorable, his arc was impactful to the story, his death was a pivotal moment for the story that we still talk about to this day. I dont think as an actor you could ask for anything more. Yeah longevity is awesome because as artists we live job to job. But we also rarely get the chance to be memorable.
Bernthal's story about wanting to go and say goodbye and just watching them crack on without him is really relateable to me right now, having just left my first real job which was bartending. Obviously they are two different jobs, acting and hospitality and two different worlds, but I identified with that feeling of suddenly realising that now youre back on the outside. When you work at a place for a significant period of time, especially your first proper job you get it into your head that you are sort of indispensible, and one of the family. The people you see everyday for a good long while, for better or worse they become your whole world. You make friends there. Maybe you find yourself with a little workplace crush. You become embroiled in the drama and the banter and the workload and that becomes your identity. And then when you leave everyone is really sad and its all hugs and goodbyes and "make sure you come back to visit!" and you become convinced that this place won't be the same without you and that you've left a mark that was as significant as the mark it left on you. But then when you do go back, you see that life goes on and people are keeping on at the job without you. Maybe you go back after a week and people are happy to see you and say they miss you, but now youre a guy who USED to work here. Youre not really one of the crew anymore and that can be a pretty tough pill to swallow.
He is the biggest actor to come from that show because he wasn't dragged on like so many of the characters on that show are. People will remember him for more than TWD. It's hard to say the same for some of those actors that are still doing it.
Yeah he may be. Many others have done really well outside TWD too though. Sonequa Martin Green (star trek), Danai Gurira (black panther/avengers), Michael Rooker (guardians of the Galaxy), just to name a few.
@@AxelAlexK Stephen Yuen as well.
He was a big man, huge guy, real strong. And he was weeping, like real tears. And he came up to me and he said thank you for everything you do.
I think as you get older we all can relate to Jon being devastated by losing something or leaving somewhere you REALLY loved and felt comfortable, then later you look back realizing the path made perfect sense and just being grateful for the whole journey
I just love his perspective on things.
He said fleed instead of fled and now, weeped instead of wept. And I'm here for it!
👏🏼
I had a somewhat unhealthy obsession with The Walking Dead series. Perhaps, I still do. 😉
I remember watching episode one, season one around the time the show premiered, and just becoming captivated by the qualities of the production. I never read the comics or knew that the show was based on such a written work, initially. Even so, I anticipated it would be around a long time, because of how good the qualities of the production were. I'm glad that there are plenty of episodes to enjoy.
One of the best tv series ever.
The show is still amazing but you can’t deny how untouchable those early years are. And we’re so thankful for Jon being a part of it and playing a legendary character so perfectly!
Jon Bernthal is an amazing actor. He played Shane brilliantly and Shane wasn't an easy character to play.
Shane was there only for two seasons but he is still one of the best characters in the show!
First saw John in the walking dead. And now seeing him as frank castle, wolf of Wall Street etc.
Dudes a fantastic actor, one of my favorites
Shane's death was planned from the beginning of the show. It was a great arc, perfect timing. While I loved Shane, he left at the right time and his death made sense and the character was complete. Better than so many other TWD characters that stayed on way too long and became stale or just had arcs that just kept going in circles.
After shane I enjoyed Abraham very much, to see him killed by negan broke my heart.
It's says so much about who Jon Bernthal as a person, not even taking into account what a great actor he is, to react this way after his time on TWD was over. To have this much appreciation for the experience and co actors who are now life long friends speaks volumes of his character and sense of perspective. How many of us grunts and nobody's would respond to getting written off, fired in a sense, would react this way? When you hate a character in a film that much you have to realize how powerful their acting is. Much like Dwight Yokum in sling blade. Every person who saw that movie wanted to personally do what Billy Bob did.
Jon Bernthal is just such a geniune and humble guy, idk how anyone could not like him.
Love this whole interview on so many levels!
Everybody became Shane in the show. He was ahead of the curve and he was the most impactful character and the show just isn't the same without him. Glad Jon's career took off since he left. He was great in The Pacific as Manny, as Brad in The Wolf of Wall Street, Grady in Fury, Braxton in The Accountant and of course, The Punisher.
"blaring some Danzig" I didn't think it was possible to love an actor any more than I did
Damn, he is so eloquent and down to earth when he speaks, you expect that gruff aggressive voice from his characters. Love that guy and all his work. Reminds me of Galdolfini when he's not in character as Tony.
I would have wrote it so that during their confrontation In that field outside Hershel's they mess each other up pretty bad; Shane eventually gets the upper hand on Rick and is about to kill him but stops when he realizes Carl is there. The three of them exchange looks in silence for a moment before Shane drops his weapon and walks off heavily wounded into the woods and they don't see him again...
Until Season 8 where he shows up as an outpost leader for the Saviors.
Shane was one of the best characters in the walking dead.
Shane was ahead of his time. While everyone else in the group thought he was an animal he showed you had to be cutthroat to survive. Something everyone else who lived developed.
@@ThurgoodJenkins1 Yet got easily bit by a zombie
@@frogsama666 he literally got murdered 😭
@@Kiddlow2x I'd argue it was closer to self defense than murder, but yes. He was killed by a man, not a walker
@@haydeng3541 Rick talked him down, you could see in Shane’s eyes he regrets what he was doing for that second of time, Rick doesn’t give him a chance to atone.
First 5 seasons were incredible , great show .
@@OAT86 Season 2 was good too. The first half is a little slow but has some great character moments. Second half really picks up and is among peak walking dead stretches imo
It's still really good season 6 was really good and so was the others you're just a bunch of haters
@@itzbp9949 haters ? Stop being so offended , its just a matter of taste , you like it ? Good for you , i dont and its ok 👍
@@OAT86 no 1 - 5 straight
Imo season 1-3 were all pretty decent same with the first half of season 4 but after that the pacing is just god awful. Plus they wasted most of their season budget on the prison battle with the Governor so the next 8 episodes were characters walking around in the woods. S 5 tho made up for it I guess most of those episodes were really good
he sat on a rock...
IN THE WOOOOOODS
Saw Jon in The Bear recently. Such a solid dude. That show is packed of stellar performers and Jon fits right in. What a thing to watch good people succeed.
He's one of the few actors/actresses where I'll watch any movie or tv show because he's in it
same !!!
1:57 In the whoooods
I loved jon as the punisher he was born to play Frank and that's the reason that i start watching walking dead because some people said he's character in TWD is kinda like Frank and now I'm at walking dead season 11
Jon is a great actor. I hope to see him lead more movies and shows
Crazy how this pops up after I’ve been rewatching the Walking Dead. What a time for TV when that was going on, say what you want how it turned out towards the end and it’s popularity not being the same but you can never deny the awesome ride it gave us all.
I never do this, either before or after TWD, but I used to watch the episodes twice if they were the good ones, in the first three seasons. The show was good until S6, but I never did that after S3. I recently started watching S9 after I quit in S7 (S8x01 was last I watched, so I picked up at the end of that season.) S9 is actually pretty good even after Rick left and feels more grounded even though it's way more scifi, which is weird. I said I was just going to watch it until Rick left, but now I find myself enjoying it again. Maybe I'm just desperate for something to watch, but I'm enjoying TWD for the first time in seven years. It will never be as good as those first three seasons though, but I missed this universe for some reason. Darabont just set up such an interesting universe, it's too bad AMC almost killed it. If HBO (pre-2010 HBO) had produced this show, it would've been one of the best ever made.@@buffnipz
One of the most respectable actors imo he's such a humble guy but absolutely delivers in every role he plays.
Really seems like a honest cool dude! Much respect to his gratitude he seem to have for life, good and bad.
I absolutely HATED Shane in the Walking Dead... DAMN is he a good actor!!
Jon is one of the best actors working today. From Punisher to wind river and sicario
Two genuine, amazing humane beings.
A rare thing.
His line:
“Let me tell you something else man”
*rubbing his head*
“They’re in the wooooods”
I'm so glad he got cast for the role, cuz now he's a favourite actor of mine because of it!
And it's weird to think that HE was supposed to be playing Rick, not Shayne!
I never watched the walking dead and as an outsider I think it was wonderful for him because the opinion I saw about the show peaked some time after he left and then declined a bit now so leaving before the peak setting the peak up was like getting credit for the greatness of the show without working there anymore and not taking any damage from any possible decline because you're not there anymore
lol you & me both but because I love the rest of his work I am going to watch at least the first 2 seasons
1:57 "They're in the WHOOUUDS"
Bernthal is how every actor should be. So respectful, kind, and humble. Dude is amazing.
Y'know, for a character that managed to outlive his comic counterpart if only for Two Season's; Shane has still remained as one of the best, most memorable characters in the shows running.
He was adapted to the world long before the others. Rick eventually became what Shane already was, but nobody in the group was willing to acknowledge that.
He was really good in daredevil.
He was amazing as Punisher
*The Punisher.
Even if we can't see it at the time everything happens for a reason and sometimes things come to an end to make space for bigger or better things to come on our path
I really missed and still miss his character on the show. While he was on the show he was the most noticeable character. After he left Daryl became my favorite character.
He really went all out with Shane I could see the seriousness in his eyes.
Jon got big BECAUSE he was killed off.
His body of work speaks for itself.
It was a blessing.
100 percent
Well T W D was still his first big break as he realizes now and is what allowed him to show off his acting skills before moving onto much bigger and better things
I miss seeing him on the show even though its about to end those 2 seasons he did a fantastic job Shane was great character and made Rick a tuff survivor
With only 2 seasons, it's impressive how iconic his character is.
While it was sad to see him go after just Season 1, the man literally became and defined a whole new generation of The Punisher right after. Had he been tied up with the scheduling for TWD, he would have never been able to do it. And he's starred in a total of 16 other projects after TWD. Might not be a Movie A-star, but he has earned so much respect from his fans.
he is way better than most A-stars & he isn't full of that woke nonsense he just has a lot of common sense & innate decency he would make a great role model for his kids - he is what I term a fully rounded fully souled human being
He’s a legend. Good guy and real human.
Jon is such a intense actor and he can take a role for a kind person as well.
Shane was one of my favorite characters in TWD such a complex character, I love Jon Bernthal in every show role he plays
Shane took care of Rick's family thinking Rick was dead so he did something honorable. He promised to take care of his family and protect them. Everything fell apart for Shane with Rick showed up alive. Still, Shane was the one that had that survivalist mentalitality. Rick was a bit unhinged and later on, he went full on crazy. Shane had to do what he did because there were two alpha dogs in the group and you can't have that. He took the challenge and he died for it.
I missed Shane soooooo much. Shane is the reason I became a Jon Bernthal fan... then there was Frank 😆
His performance and character was so great that it got him every job since. From a viewers standpoint it hurt that Shane died but he needed to after trying kill his best friend after getting every chance. As an actor you feel lost cause the only good job you’ve ever had it’s gone. You start to feel like will someone hire me again for another show or a movie? Or is this it. Luckily he started winning a bunch of other roles and is now a decorated famous actor.
But the struggle to be an actor is real. I’m still trying and hopefully one day I’ll make it!
Such a great actor I’m so glad he was on the punisher . Also a great show . He’s seems humble
As crazy as a character he was, the role was done great. Legend.
I watched this because I hated his character so much I need to see he’s a decent guy.
He seems like a humble dude
3:55 Classic Sideshow Bob flashbacks haha
“YOU’LL LIVE TO REGRET THIIIIISSSSSSS”
"Blare some Danzig" lmfao!
Shane is easily the best character in the show's history.
He's got screen presence.
Are you serious. Man 😯 🤫
That was my first time seeing him as an actor he was just amazing.
He was a pressure cooker of emotion, but Shane talked a lot of sense. Pretty much dead already was one of my favourite episodes and Jon was incredible in that ep. I was totally on his side come the end of it, he’s intense but he was spot on.
Conan had me dying laughing. I can feel that pain but that was hilarious.
The first season of TWD was the best.
Scott Wilson...R.I.P.❤🌹🙏🏽🕯
We talk about his part being cut short, yet, i had never heard of him before the walking dead and now, I won't miss a single thing he's in.
Conan is hilarious 😅
I could listen to Jonny talk all day. There's just something about the way he speaks that's very 'listenable'.
the character lasted 2 seasons and is still talked about as one of the best characters in TWD even After 11 seasons of TWD 8 Seasons of Fear 6 episodes X3 spin offs ...Shane is still one of the best characters in the show.
Sometimes you don't need a long lasting character for the character to be great, its nice that TWD has the balls to kill major characters in a first place
To this day I still believe that Shane and Merle were the two best characters that WTD ever had
WTD
Walking The Dog
The Governor as well I thought too. My top 5 would probably have to be
1 Shane/The Governor
2. Rick
3. Michonne
4. Merle
5. Tyrese
I don’t think I’ve ever heard his natural voice before 😂. He truly is a great actor.
Dude has been in some amazing TV shows and movies. The Walking Dead, The Bear, Fury, The Punisher, Wolf of Wall Street, Ford vs. Ferrari, Wind River, Baby Driver.
Shane's presence was missed in the show for the next 5 seasons after he was killed off. It's a testament to the actor because Shane didn't last nearly as long in the comic
seasons 3-6 are still very good just the show had another vibe with the shane-rick leadership conflict. Shane ended up being right in his way of living to survive but he was cruel and extreme in the way he presented himself, even betraying Otis. I think he was right with the “enough” barn scene. That showed just how ahead and isolated he was from the group.
@@smh-TV That's a good analysis of him. Ahead and isolated because of that, while extreme in presentation. Knew the future coming but lacked the manner to tactfully teach it to those who didn't.
I really wish was on the show alot longer . Great actor and character