Ford E350 Misfire 5.4L
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2022
- This 2006 Ford E350 has a misfire on cylinder #8. It also has some O2 sensor codes.
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@@colinklang Maxxeon
wes,,i wouldnt know about vacation,,never had one in 20 yrs..but had a 10 yr working holiday in cairns, qld..no one works in qld..its too nice..[ no snow.].27c every day...
Helpful hint for those taking any thing in to be serviced. Clean it out.
I work on boats and I don’t know how many tons of camping gear and fishing equipment I have moved just to be able to step into the rig. Thanks from all the techs in advance😀
I once chased my wife down the street on her way to the mechanic because there was an empty chip packet in the glovebox. Yeah. I think maybe I took the "clean the car out before sending it to get fixed" thing a little too far that day.
Never occurred to me to not clean out a car before taking it in for service. Oh well.
mate you are so right some i have work on takes half a day just to fined the hood release so now when they come in and i see them if its a mess i tell them of the extra charge for cleaning they soon clean it out them self when it a charge on them
If I hit a wall and have to breakdown and take it to a shop, I fully cleanout and wash the vehicle from top to bottom. My hope is to show the mechanic that I care about it and hopefully they'll take extra care. Maybe they'll at least not just break every plastic fastener without a thought of putting in a few new ones.
@@BrennanHoyt yes me the same but then i never let it get like that in the first place and by the way you speak you are the same look after your car and it will look after you have rubbish bag hanging off back of head rest all rubbish goes in there then the bin at sirvo if away or bin at home
I am the fleet mechanic for a commercial bakery in San Luis Obispo,California we have 20 of these vans, I keep coils and plugs in stock in my shop all the time. That cylinder #8 is real easy to get too. And now coils are so inexpensive compared to years ago.
Compared to the pickups, where cylinders 4 and 8 are virtually inaccessible.
@@mr_canoehead completely agree, as a 39 year Mastertech. As with everything In life there’s pro and cons to both the trucks accessibility and as you mentioned with the vans the rear cylinders. Thanks Mr Canoehead for your reply,there’s not many of us out there that still get our hands dirty. 👍
Funny how the uninitiated will pop the hood on a short nose van and think "everything must be impossible to reach" until they learn about the interior doghouse
@@yeahitskimmel Yep, though I was not totally expecting Ford to have one due to the more prominent snout, but I guess, even they do have one, just does not intrude as much as Chevy and Dodge do inside. Loved how Wes "broke" it by removing the front part I think unintentionally, LOL.
@@yeahitskimmel I owned a diesel Bedford CF, very short bonnet and doghouse, it was the centre of the little 4 pot that was hard to get to !
There’s always something, in that case there was very little height through the firewall.
I saw the title and guessed the fix. I always change the plugs as well.
See how wes makes the clean freaks happy?
The ford van are very pissy about spark plugs
…coil in the pile.
I used to work in an engine exchange shop 20 years ago and routinely had to change out engines in those vans. After replacing a few it got easier but those were my least favorite jobs.
It's like the engineers challenge each other to come up with the hardest to service design. I'd love it if these companies would force their engineers to work as service techs for a year before they turn them loose designing new stuff.
@@pamike4873 Most cars aren't designed to be fixed, just to last long enough to pass warranty
I worked at a place that had one with a power stroke. I know Wes has worked on those too. I opened the hood one day to work on it , promptly said nope, and called a tow truck. My hats off to anyone that works on those.
@@ajcampbellconstruction6504
You have to pull the body for most work. We had two flooded 6.0 cutaways sent out as trainer vehicles. I cut most of the dashboard out to make the engine accessable for training new techs.
@@ajcampbellconstruction6504 I had no choice, it was an engine shop. LOL, But yes, they were no fun to work on although I learned a few tricks to make the job easier. I remember one van I had to do twice because the first engine had the wrong camshafts installed, they had no signal rings for the cam sensors.
It is sometimes useful to examine the condition of a unresponsive O2 sensor. I had a situation where the engine was running rich, the O2 sensor was unresponsive and I found it was covered in thick soot deposits. Moving its tip in and out of propane flame while measuring its voltage output I figured the soot was blanketing it’s ability to sense oxygen and so I burnt the soot off. Risky, but this fixed it and it cost nothing. The rich condition turned out to be nothing more than low coolant levels delaying the engine from entering closed loop. The dud O2 sensor was an effect of the condition not the cause. Once the engine was fixed the cleaned up O2 sensor worked fine.
"You get a weird look from the parts guy when you order one sparkplug..." LOL you made the beer come out of my nose. Thanks for the laugh.
I helped my buddy with a misfire on his 4.6. Plugs helped for a week, then came back. Looked at the coils, there were 3 different brands on it. At 250k miles, I said "best practice is to do plugs & coils all at once". 8 rockauto coils later, running smooth.
Then the transmission range sensor started acting up... sometimes life just rolls with the punches on these old rigs
The click of a torque wrench always makes me laugh.
I used to drive an '88 F350 extended van as a work rig. Got it used, drove it for ten years, 460 fuel injected. Any time I had to work on it was a jaw-tightening experience. When I didn't do the work myself, I always made sure the area was cleaned out and accessible for the guy going in. Didn't figure it was the mechanics job to clean my mess. I guess to some folks they don't mind paying for room service. That should be on the time sheet with a pre-drop off clause. It doesn't hurt so bad when you get shop rate for cabin cleaning.
The Covid masks were a particularly nice touch
@@thomasbrown9402 Church Bus, pretty much a requirement. But, _used_ masks? Bleecch.
Mid-week afternoon delight! Love the brake rotor "embedded" in your bench. Thanks Wes!
I've owned several econolines. I take out at least the passenger seat and 2 dash trim pieces on either side of dog house. Going back together, I'll put a little lithium grease on the trim panel clips. It keeps the plastic clip holder from getting broke.
Those evil plastic clips
Have you removed a cylinder head with out removing the engine?
I did it once years ago, now every time I get a cylinder job on the ecoline the engine comes out.
@@artmont9043 no, I have not. I did r and r a f350 engine the normal way with the cab on. Didn't seem tpp bad.
@@darrylvohs5526 on the trucks it’s not to bad. On the Econoline it’s the worst.
I had a 77 E-150, when I was stationed in Illinois. It had a bad habit of freezing the throttle cable in the winter. The only quick fix, was open the inside cover, manually set the choke, start the engine, and let the engine heat thaw out the cable. Usually only happened after driving in slushy snow.
Good to see you're on the way back to normality. Thanks..from the UK.
I love it when these motors decide to eject a plug, then have to helicoil new threads in a cramped space like the under hood of a van.
I'm moving from Texas back to the Quad Cities because watching Wes made me miss working on rusty junk
aside from the fact that Texas is a sucky place.
I think you're overdue for a psych evaluation...
Always nice to see ya Wes..don't ever loose your sense of humor!
Sometimes it is nice to get a simple repair. Thanks for the videos, Wes.
So happy to see another video posted today! Thanks again!
Good little video. Yes definitely understand the issue with the check engine light. But when they don't won't to take care of all the issues at once. It does come back. Wes thanks for sharing and have a great week ✌️
What is busier the week before vacation or the week after? The answer to that is YES!
tbh watching you work on that van makes me really glad i'm not a mechanic anymore, 5* for you Sir
That's a lot of work in that yard Wes, awesome!
Looking at all the work to get at that coil and plug it makes me so much happy to have my step van with the same engine setup. Taking the doghouse cover off gives you room to access all the plugs without having to open the hood.
Hope you and the family enjoyed the break, and very good to see plenty of work, judging by the parking lot. Ah yes, 4.00 p.m. Friday afternoon. Usually time for broken manifold studs, a leak you hadn’t noticed, and the parts due at midday yet to arrive. At least on this occasion all went well. Kind regards.🇦🇺
Always enjoy your vids, Wes. Thanks for posting.
Thank you so much for this mid week special. Much needed. Much appreciated.
Yep, I am recalling a video from way back, (can’t remember what vehicle) where you spent a lot of time, a lot…, on a similar Ford engine… At this point in “our” existence…, it is most likely cheaper to fix them…, that is if “Wes” is the one we have doing the fixing…
Great video sir, as always.
Thank you.
I know this video was a year ago but maybe this could help someone. 😊 I bought a Ford E350 back in November of 2023 and it took me until March of 2024 to get it registered because of the “O2 sensor”. I found out it did not have an O2 sensor and Ford determined that one of the alternators needed to be replaced. (They had to replace my batteries to figure that out.) It ran great for a while after they did that!
Thank you for sharing Wes. Enjoyed seeing this.
I only had my Ford F-250 SD a couple of months and lost two or three coils on it, since then (knock on wood) no problems. Great video Wes thumbs up.
Good to see you busy anytime .. maybe not February.
I am glad you are busy.
O2 sensor failing are common on the 5.4l v8s whether it's the van chassis or the Pickup chassis great video as always nice to have a simple job once in awhile @Watch Wes Work
Good video, I have a 2011 E350 with a wheelchair lift for myself and replacing the coils and plugs are on the list. Thanks for sharing
Week after. You have relaxed and you come back to a mountain of work.
Wish I could bring my cars to you. you are definitely a great mechanic. love the content
I really enjoy watching all u r clips, please keep them coming
It's nice to ease back in after a holiday.
Regarding vacation and workflow, I always said you "pay" for vacation before you leave and also "pay" when you come back.
I have the same policy on coil and plug replacement. I had the coil fail on the same cylinder on a 3.6 Acadia and once I replaced the plug it resolved the coil failure issues. I always use original oem parts.
drinking a beer, watching Wes, yes, life is good
Thanks for the bonus mid-week video!
I appreciate the extra content Wes. Keep it up!
when my van goes into the shop, its spotless. I want to let the mechanic know I appreciate his attention to detail. Clean your crap outta his way.
Holy light saber Skywalker!! That's one huge trouble light! Going to have to add one of those to the arsenal.... Well Done on church bus. Safe travels Perry
that light is handy.
that job went better than I thought.
good video and good info thank you
I fixed the AC on my Jeep Commander the same way - bought the block-off kit, got a Hazard Fart manifold set and vacuum pump, added some ozone killer and hurrah! One item (of a list of thousands) Mrs Harris can no longer complain about. (Oddly enough, I am also on that list)
Are you still under warranty? Did she buy the extended service plan?
@@somebodyelse6673 - Unfortunately, we were waaaaay past the expiration of the warranty. Plus, I'm poor so I need to fix my own vehicles.
Love so much when you post!
Great job Wes. Always like your vids . Thanks for sharing.
Good job wes things sure look busy around your shop hope you get through it all and get some rest to yourself thanks for the video mate take care to you all 🔧🔧👍👌
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy, approved! that was good info. Wes
It’s been a while since we’ve gotten a Wednesday video! Glad I checked RUclips today!
Wow that seatbelt alarm is Aggressive! 🚨 🔊
It's pretty easy to turn off the chime. On my 2005 Mustang GT, you turn the key to Run, without starting the engine. Wait for the seatbelt warning light to go out, and then, within 60 seconds, latch and unlatch the driver's seatbelt nine times.
When you unlatch it the ninth time, the airbag light will come on, so you latch and unlatch it a tenth time before the airbag light goes out, and you're done. The airbag light will flash very rapidly for a couple of seconds to confirm. And the chime stays silent. You can turn the chime back on through the same process as turning it off.
@@DanEBoyd I hear if you do it the 11th time, it switches the chime to Alan Jackson’s hit 1998 single “Crazy ‘bout a Ford truck”
@@pheuker45322 I'll have to try that!
Midweek vid nice job, big engines in everything there, hope rest of week is good👍🇮🇪
Always the week after on my end of the automotive industry. No shutdown for us!
NGL those Bakugan are quality toys. Good puzzles, then when they figure that out they're basically GI Joe's but dragons. Keeps my littles entertained for days
The week during a vacation. It's always nice to get back to work. 😁😁
Ah the econoline chassis - For major engine repairs, be it gas or diesel, I’ve found it’s way easier on my back and my sanity to just lift the whole body right off the chassis. Disconnect some wiring, plumbing, ebrake cable, unbolt the master cyl and pull it off the booster, fuel filler hose, pull the steering shaft off the gearbox, ground straps, and about 16 body mount bolts, and up she goes an hour later. Makes life so much easier, especially if you have to pull a cyl head, a whole engine, or do just about anything on a powerstroke.
This is an example of working smarter *and* harder! :P
All kidding aside, it sounds like you have an efficient system you came upon by thinking outside of the constraints of the shop manual - respect!
Try that on a shuttle bus….
@@notajp or an ambulance
You must not live in the rust belt. That’s not happening here after a couple winters
Easy one for a change! Nice job Wes!
I had never heard of Astro tools until I started watching Eric O's videos, but now I think they might be my favorite mechanics tools company (as a diyer).
The week before is less busy unless you tell everyone you're going on vacation. lol
Good job Wes, for a church van it looked like a shed. Historical differences aside we put the stars & Stipes on our flag pole today to help you celebrate the 4th of July, all the best from the U.K. And yes Friday afternoons preceding a holiday weekend are the same the world over.
Yea! I like that star wars light. Now you can see the force.
When my youngest brother was born, my family grew from 8 to 9. Our two choices were: suburban or a van. My parents went with a 97 Ford E-350 with the V10 triton engine. That was back in 2004, and they still have it to this day. We road tripped from Atlantic to Pacific and back at least 5 or 6 times in that thing. It’s now got 280k miles on it, but doesn’t get much use now that we’ve all grown up.
In Europe, only millionaires would be able to afford the gas costs of a V10 minibus, while still feeding the 7 children.
@@erik_dk842 That's wild! I assure you, we aren't millionaires haha. We were very much middle class. We just lived without a lot of things to make ends meet (i.e. cell phones, cable, nice tvs, eating out, etc).
Oh the bad memories !
I had a commercial E250 too. A tough workhorse built to last. The worst part, as you mentionned, was working on the engine, even for regular maintenance. 😱
Another fine video! Glad you're back from vacation in one piece!
Now I need to go buy that light. That’s really handy.
Yup .. coil and plug together .. every time.
Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦
Glad you got a vacation.
Seeing the van reminds of having to work on my parents Class-C motor home with the 460 in it. Doing the spark plugs and tune up was a pain.
Good old 2 valve 5.4l I also change a coil with the spark plug because a misfiring cylinder does Damage spark plugs being Dry Fired @Watch Wes Work
Owner of Ford and chevy vans. Hate the dog box.
Hope y'all have a great vacation!
Chased a misfire on the wife's 2001 F150. Replaced the coil and the plug and it came back. Changed the electrical plug to the coil and it came back. Finally put a new injector in and cured it! What a nightmare.
3v 5.4L from model year 2009 onward had the resigned heads. They don't have any more issues than other trucks with breaking sparkplugs.
Very good, Wes. I have a 5.4 in my E150 and can't wait to change the plugs in it!
😜😯
Aw I love it when your plan comes together..! Hello from eugene or.wes and family
I had 5 of these vans 5.4 for my business and all of them went over 500,000 miles. No major issues.
Love the content Wes. Keep it up man.
Wes Windu's new Light Saber! Nice
Glad to see ya on this fine Wednesday!
I had a leak on my rear A/C lines on my Sienna recently. I didn't block it off, I repaired it using the Dorman repair kits (yea I know, Dorman. Ew.) They're actually really nice. They're easy to install, basically the same amount of labor to block off the lines. The repair turned out great and it doesn't leak at all anymore.
Crazy how they only wanted the *one* plug changed! 😦 I know times are tough but wow! My family had a van around that year and yeah, I agree 100% access is limited. 😖 Nice job with the repairs Wes. Take care 🔧🔩
As always fantastic
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I never go on vacation,for that exact reason lol.
When you come back you wished you never went on vacation
Thank you for a bonus post 👍👍
This is how you diagnose something with your brain and not just using diagnostic charts that are full of “ holes “.
That's a nice new router behind you. Fancy. Thanks for showing max is ok and still depressed/old. He's like Eeyore. It's fine.
This weeks special,free interior detail with coil replacement!
In my past lifes experience as a Honda mc tech,I found that a fouled NGK plug would stop firing and never fire again,even after cleaning.I guess it kinda makes sense that a plug fouled after a coil failed could damage a new coil.WTH,it's cheap enough insurance to replace the plug,funny looks or not.
Your nearly IMMEDIATE irritation at seatbelt dinging “reminders” is on par with mine, ugh 😂😂
nothing like a good dog that brings you gifts !
Thanks for the vid, best channel on you tube.
Its busier before a holiday , all those things that have been wrong for the past 5 months need repair NOW!
Great work Wes,
Wife had a Crown Vic one time. She was on the phone with me and all of a sudden it just starts bucking, I could hear it through the phone. I drove it and swore it was the tranny. Took it into the shop and the say no its a miss. Took it to Ford....sat in the shop ALL day (not kidding) They come back and say i was injectors and they all need replaced at $65 a piece, might as well been a million. So I get a couple at the junk yard and put them in...bo different. Rig up a test stand with tubing full of carb cleaner and test clips to open the injector, hit with the air compressor....they work fine including old ones. Someone suggested to swap coils....made no difference. Finally decided to try plug wires and voila!. Plug wire just decided to burn out like a light bulb. Never would have suspected it how sudden it happened. Took a week to diagnose with no scanners and chasing bad info from the dealer!
Getting a Wes video mid week? Lucky week.
Great repair. Thanks for the video.
thank you for the wonderful video show young man.
Can't believe that they sent that to you to fix with a garbage dump in it
Love watching your videos
That's nothing!
Thank you for the video, Wes!
I like how in the E-series, it's easy to get to the rear of the engine