Ford E350 Tone Ring VSS / Speedometer Fix
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2020
- We replace the rusty tone ring inside the rear axle of this 1995 Ford E-350. That takes care of the speedometer issues, but there are still some gremlins in the system.
Plus a quick follow up on the F-150 with the self destructing 5.4L. Авто/Мото
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iis that toughbook really running xp?? wow get in touch with picoscope and see if there are issues upgradeing the os win 10 minimum is cpu 1ghz ram 1 gb so if ya got it and there software runs on 10 upgrade!!! better yet install linux install wine and run it in that
for any company to send you that os to run there product would be almost equivalent to you installing an engine management system thats no longer supported by there manufacturer never mind the unfix able un modifiable design flaws
Pico is a USB device, it connects to any PC. I'm running Windows 10 on that Lenovo.
and did the coolant temp ever change on the gauge?
@@WatchWesWork wow there software is using an old style lol looks like xp lenovo...=thinkpad ibm should be a solid enough machine but no gameing on it
but thats not what your useing it for so all good thanks for the reply and the vids
@@mobiousenigma can you break that down for us ?????
As a paramedic ... Here's what you can always assume with a used Ambulance:
It's been run overweight, cold started, pulled out of the ditch at least twice (sideways, with the wrong equipment), run low on oil, run high on oil, driven with park brake on, slammed into park or reverse while still moving and it's been peed on.
What happens on the second week, well that depends on the crew.
LMAO!
How an ambulance can be overweight? When the ambulance company put the body and all of the equipment on the chassis, the total weight must be under the maximum weight. The weight of crew, supplies and patient should be minimum compared to the ambulance weight.
@@yzhang8629 The dudes being funny
Hahaha!! That made me laugh.
Y Zhang fatty transport
When I grew up back in the 1900's, we had things called speedometer cables. No fancy schmancy confuser brain machines for us. Good times.
It's a brave new world... of 40 year old technology.
I even had an adapter on my car to to convert it to km/h from mph. About ten bucks and ten minutes work!
Yep 1900s were much better
And when the cable binds, speedo wiggles just the same... Then it breaks.
Older does not necessarily mean better. Speedometer cables seized often, and there are distinct advantages to this configuration. It just requires a different skill set to work with it.
Of course you have a frequency generator. The guy who dies with the most tools wins. Nice diagnosis. Thanks for sharing
As a senior master Ford technician, I am impressed by your professional work ethics and knowledge. You were able to prove your diagnosis by skilled use of tools and continued to repair the truck until it was perfect. Most techs would have been satisfied after the previous repair when most of the oscillations were gone. Well done. It’s a pleasure to watch you work.
Thanks. The job is not done until it works right. Sometimes you never get there.
I’m sure Mrs. Wes is glad that thing is finally going.
I wasn't to happy when it showed back up.
@@mrswes lol. Is that why you didn't make an appearance in this video? ;)
I thought the young lady was his daughter . Wes is a lucky man.
Getting to the bottom of this truck, was pretty remarkable. Not many people would have gone into this much detail to confirm the exact cause. Shops would have just thrown parts and shipped it. This job reminded me of my uncle, no matter the issue in a lost cause machine he always fixed it. It's rare to find a mechanic of this skill. Usually rare mechanics are self taught from the regular guy..Well done Wes.👍 Hope family is well.
Excellent job of diagnostics on that truck. Working on an ex-ambulance would scare most people from all of the systems that had been compromised during the build and "un-build" of the unit. Great job of capturing the information on video. Thanks for your work.
Plus the van configuration is enough to scare anyone!
I think it is pretty great that you provided such great feedback to your commenters. It is great that everyone learns watching you.
Installing ring gear
Tool goes *clink*
Wes: “aww you F@#%&$”
Cutscene lol been there done that
I think one of the shim rings jumped overboard-
@@horacerumpole6912 I think both of them went "clink". Just lovely to hear when you are wrestling with a heavy, tight fitting piece in a cramped space.
Everyone who laughed has been there 🤣
I went looking for a comment that mentioned this. It’s just too relatable.
And I didn’t think my day could get better but here we are. Love me a good wes video
Electronic nerd out is what you need for good diag on today's vehicles. Keep that stuff coming. I love it
Ah yes, nothing like a good amount of beer early afternoon, Wes working and a weekend 👍🏻
I blew up a smaller version of this axle when I was younger and stupider, and I just replaced the crunched pinion and ring along with the carrier and exploded spider gears and put it back together the same way it came apart. My father told me I couldn't do that, that the axle had to be set with gauges and dykem. The axle never blew up after that though, and I thought I just got lucky. But today I see this video where someone much more competent than my teenage self does the same thing, so I guess that's how it's supposed to work.
I've got to say, I worked twenty-five years at a Ford dealership, and I've never seen a tone ring go bad in a rear differential. I've replaced them when replacing a ring and pinion, but never by itself.
Love the use of the signal generator to check the speedometer. Good work as always.
Thanks 👍
As I watch Wes work over the past year or so, this cat is pretty good. Id go as far as to say as good as S.M.A. and the like
NEVER would have guessed a metal ring enclosed in a pumpkin could have caused the speedo error. Your content is top notch!!!
Inductive searches...deductive results..! Correct again , Mr ..! Thanx for your clarity , brevity and sanity..!
Amazing job Wes, I really enjoyed the series about this truck!
Outstanding. Love that axle pan I can remember draining everything and put all over the floor, soaking up rags. That's a product of necessity somebody invented.
Lisle has a lot of innovative tools like that.
nothing better than a good dose of Weekend Wes! thanks foe doing this.
Loved this video and your approach to troubleshooting / isolating the root cause. Keep up the good work.
Man every time i check in i learn something. thanks.
New video from Wes... made my Saturday!
Got to love it when a plan comes together!
That was a hard-earned victory - great job. Amazing troubleshooting, Wes!
Man the owner is going to have more money in that truck than a new one. Good job on that. Transmission sounds like a shifting valve sticking. Bummer. Thanks for sharing.
Having a good meter and the skill to use it is the biggest time and labor saving device. Smart, well done.
GREAT JOB!!! You're a GENIUS!!! Wish you and the Family the BEST!!!!
Success. If the sensor relies on magnetic feedback from the teeth passing in front of it, it makes sense that density and shape variations would impact the reading.
Its goes to show you cant let a truck sit for yrs & expect nothing to go wrong, i drive a newer ford van & always fixing small stuff, before they get to big problems.
Terrific problem-assessments and work done.
Great video. I would have never guessed that a rusty part would cause the speedo to do that. Learn something new every day
You learn something new everyday
I love how you explain your videos just right. Since I’m a hobby mechanic it provides me a good level of understanding on things that I may or may not see but at least I’m familiar
Wes, I enjoy watching your videos. You do a great job and are an amazing teacher.
you are genius!
I have never thought about using a signal generator to test the system until I saw this video
thank you so much for so many inspiring ideas you teach us on this troubleshooting series.
Nice I can learn something new from watching the channel and after as long as I have been doing this, it's nice to learn something new from the video. Thank you for sharing this with me Wes!😊
Nice one Wes you really worked for that.
Sweet. Just got back from fishing and I have one of your vids to relax to. Thanks mate.
Ahhhh. Memories. I saw that gwinnett place Ford and immediately brought back memories. Grew up not far from there
Great victory Wes, you're what's known as a community mechanic, you look out for your customers and help wherever you can, best mechanics you can have.
Using a function generator to simulate the sensor data - brilliant! I will definitely use that trick myself.
Always good to get a result Wes, even if it’s only completing the owners patch up request! 😊
Wes awesome job! Enjoy watching you!!
Thanks 👍
Thanks to this E-350 and the owner, we have so much awesome videos from WWW!
Heh. Who would have know?
Nice work!! You really go the extra mile!! The PICO was well worth the money.
Congratulations on the speedo fix Wes! That was a really compelling bisection of the system with the function generator. As soon as I saw that I just knew you had it knocked with the tone ring :)
Thanks for another great video Wes. I love watching how thorough you are in your work and how you "do things right". I'd gladly bring any of my things to you that need fixing if you were just closer :-)
You are a wizard mechanic, sir. That looked like a hell of a lot of work and you got it all done in less than 30 minutes. Amazing.
I wish I had!
persistence reaches the finish line. It was interesting following along. Thanks
Installing the ring gear. Had the same issue lots of unmentionable words said. 👌good job Wes you have great patience.
Over 70k subscribers! Nice job Wes. You just keep growing. Congrats!
Slowly but surely.
Nice touch those chrome rimliners, we don't see that much on small trucks here in The Netherlands, well ... in any case ... again it was good to watch you work Wes🛠, thanks.
Great job Wes. I like that you did not give up on the speedometer. Rube Goldberg comment cracked me up, well played Sir!
Thanks!
It's back lol if I didn't know any better I think you were working on my vehicles odd ball weird problems I give you credit you are more patient than I am keep up the good work
Excellent test with that function generator!
Fine work young man. 👍👍👍
I knew there would be a victory at some point. What a pain in the ass truck that one was!
Thanks for showing the input voltage to the psom.
I was about 50/50 on it being alternator ripple voltage.
wes love.... your collection of tools (electronic) and how you know how to work with them.... to prove the diagnostic.
I'm really enjoying u r videos, please keep them coming
Thank you! Will do!
Great video as always.. Thanks Wes
Nice job. I really liked how you used the function generator to simulate the speed sensor signal driving at 55. Good thinking.
Just had a diff center out of a BA Falcon ute here in aus, on the ground too so i completely understand your pain with those bloody shims getting the center back in.
Any other shop would say, you really want to spend $3,600 in labor to fix that jumpy 26 year old speedo? Nice work Wes. You get the diligence award on this one.
Another highly entertaining episode of Wes diagosing a problem then fixing it using his rather exspensive test equipment.
Pointing out that not all bolts and nuts really need to be replaced.
Wes - great video on the axle and pinion seal installation - I was curious about the red truck and what the owner decided to do with it - Thanks for the update Wes !
‘It would appear that we got the right part’ - Another bang on line. Sounds like you, as I, have pulled may things apart to fix an internal problem only to find the replacement was close but no go. That is usually followed by some choice words ! Keep up the great videos 👍
And the call to the customer that it will be "one more day".
Looking at the axle shafts they are 1/2 the size of the ones I put back in our 1947 Greyhound bus yesterday. The probes come with the ASE Wave kit. I pulled a 2000 F250 trans that quit pulling all of the sudden and it was case damage under the valve body from a previous rebuild where they tried to pry the front pump. When the 1/2 moon chunk popped out from the fracture it lost the pressure to the forward clutches but reverse worked fine. Crazy stuff we run across!!!
Hey Wes watching you on your back under that truck brings back all sorts of memories for me ,,, it must be working for yourself that makes you do this ,,, no comfy heated workshop or hoist ,, but then again no boss no clock nobody telling you ,,, you can’t do that or this
Really interesting Wes.
Nice that you can replace the Axle Tone ring on these old rigs @Watch Wes Work
You are clever bugger, good work
I really like your mobile vehicle lift!
I bet the wife was glad to see that truck back I the shed mate !
Not so much!
Well it left for a while...
Wes, that's awesome diagnostics and results. At this rate, you'll be able to retire working on this truck.
That's insane how much work was involved to fix a speedo...
Thumbs up 👍 working till the end.
Always great to watch you!
Thx a lot!
:-D
Glad you enjoy it!
Hey Wes... you nailed that diagnostic. Well done. BTW: You should think about getting the spreader tool. It makes the job SOO much easier and they don't cost very much. I got my used Chrysler tool on eBay for about $30, with the postage. My old Dana 2-bar, one screw, tool was less than $10 at a flea market. The old ones work as well as the newer "box" style and they're not hard to find. Most folks don't know what they are. And, then there are the rears that are so darn tight that they won't budge without a spreader.
Nice job Wes...
Very good job and very informative explanations as always. Thank you very much. By the way, I missed your barn find videos.
Hi Wes 👋
You have one of the best channels, you are so informative.
Just wish you'd post more videos. I know they must be a pain in the ass to film. Keep up the great work. 👍
I've been trying to post more, but it's a lot of work.
Can you do a "how I got started" vid?
Another great video Wes! :)
I like that you don't 'sugarcoat' your 'challenges' - just let us know that you don't always have 'magic fingers' to get things to fit the first time.
I'm human like everyone else.
Awesome detailed video
Nice work Wes, good to see the wave form on the Pico showing the problem. I guess it's got a better sampling rate than the Hantek. Can't argue with the result using the function generator showing everything else is good in the system. I wish you were not on the other side of the country, I would bring my truck to you to fix my power brake booster.
Gwinnett place ford is only about 10 miles from where I live. Small world. Love your videos.
The Florida pool pump motor repair guy approved ! that was good info
Respect!
Solid diagnostics, fun to see a tone ring replaced. Those old variable reluctance sensors show increased amplitude and frequency with higher velocity, which makes sense knowing how they work. It's a pretty dramatic effect if you change vehicle speed while looking at real time data on the scope. Maybe the engine software is designed to automatically damp down input from high velocity signals, and your damaged tone ring was not able to mount a readable signal at those higher velocities. It looked like your pico showed a regularly recurring bad spot, which verified your diagnosis. Thanks for the tip about Dana/Spicer axles.
Wes the Wizard....Congratulations mission accomplished.
Good work mate
Wes...You've put so much love into that poor old E350 it doesn't want it's owner...It wants to be with you...haha!!! Awesome work as always!!!
Nah, it needs to go home!
Nailed it nice one
So cool, tone ring degradation, who knew. Thanks for the lesson.
I just watched this video and the previous one where you found the bad tone ring. When I watched the first one, that inconsistent signal from the speed sensor caught my eye right away. It was definitely visible with your Hantek scope, just a bit harder to spot that with the Pico. Wish I could afford a Pico...For now I use my Vantage Pro.
Oh you F .... The power of editing .
My kid just knows new words , I try not to but little ears hear everything ... except when its bath time .
Heh. I try really hard not to be profane, but I am human..
Hell Wes, that diff head looked really heavy and awkward.
Nice work as usual
Saved me, i'll be doing this next week..