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Maybe not. The beekeeper definitely got debunked, but maybe not. The agent didn't pick the costume, wanda "picked" for him. . Or did she?! Really it's all still up in the air
@@NandovMovies I think this is more about how via Episode 4 we gain a lot of information about SWORD, the hexagon shape, Wanda's level of involvement, the toy helicopter, etc, while your video seems to incorporate ideas from mostly Episodes 1-3 until the very end (at the beginning you even say only three episodes are out). The helicopter in particular was completely solved (it has the same id numbers as the drone Monica sends in). As far as "It's all Wanda" I agree Monica can only operate off of what she's experienced in there. Other than what Wanda did to her she knows even less than SWORD does at that point. But it does feel like Wanda is mostly in control and is just acting out her fantasy life to fool Vision into thinking it's real (and maybe herself too). I do think someone else (Agnes) helped kickstart everything, but ended up losing control to Wanda. You can see in Episode 3 Agnes is TERRIFIED of what would happen if Vision discovers the full truth... only person I can think she has reason to fear is Wanda, who she has been manipulating (we think).
@@bl3187 becouse the mephisto theory sounds a pretty much out of context after the episode 4 said that wanda is who do everything in westview and the people there dont even remember who they are.
That right there is the mail. Now let's talk about the mail. Can we talk about the mail, please, Mac? I've been dying to talk about the mail with you all day, OK? "Pepe Silvia," this name keeps coming up over and over again. Every day Pepe's mail is getting sent back to me. Pepe Silvia! Pepe Silvia! I look in the mail, and this whole box is Pepe Silvia! So I say to myself, "I gotta find this guy! I gotta go up to his office and put his mail in the guy's goddamn hands! Otherwise, he's never going to get it and he's going to keep coming back down here." So I go up to Pepe's office and what do I find out, Mac? What do I find out?! There is no Pepe Silvia. The man does not exist, okay? So I decide, "Oh shit, buddy, I gotta dig a little deeper." There's no Pepe Silvia? You gotta be kidding me! I got boxes full of Pepe! All right. So I start marchin' my way down to Carol in HR and I knock on her door and I say, "Carol! Carol! I gotta talk to you about Pepe." And when I open the door what do I find? There's not a single goddamn desk in that office! There...is...no...Carol in HR. Mac, half the employees in this building have been made up. This office is a goddamn ghost town.
I cannot comprehend how everyone is just ignoring the possibility that Wanda is just doing this to everyone. And they’re just straight up ignoring the moments of hostility when people break character. It’s just wild that everyone is like “someone has to be doing this to Wanda. It has to be be someone else”
Same! Like, maybe there isn't anyone else? Maybe she's actually just doing all this her self? But nooooooo, we need to prove mephisto is running the show!
That’s what I was thinking too. Wanda in the comics has a long history of mental instability and I don’t see why they wouldn’t try to translate that into the MCU.
Whether Wanda is perpetuating this sitcom-reality, it was someone else that set her off and caused it to occur. I don't see Wanda travelling to a random town, taking it hostage, brainwashing the residents, and creating a false sitcom-reality...just to be with Vision. There's way to many unnecessary steps there for the end-goal. Someone else kick-started this sitcom-reality, and it wasn't Wanda. However, now that she has a life with Vision, she will perpetuate this reality as long as she can to stay with him.
Wanda is doing this. I've known this from the jump. Or they're gaslighting me. I'm pretty sure the events of infinity war and endgame broke her. She watched the only person who she connects with on an intimate level die at her own hand, then die again. She accepted her death as a mercy, but it was false. She confronted the person who took everything from her, and he doesn't care. She wants to be normal again. She's lost everything and everyone fears her. There's a lot of references to her life before Ultron. She wants a family, and a community that accepts her. She's retreating into a fantasy because she can't handle the reality that everything and everyone she ever loved has been destroyed infront of her, or even because of her. Like in the comics, this is a mental break and she's shaping reality around her to ignore her problems.
@@tsrotmasftghhjkuujiou That is because Agnes is Wanda's subconcious desire to be a normal mother and wife, even when this simply is impossible because she loves a (dead) synthezoid. Because of her reality warping powers her twins are only alive within the reach of her hex magic which probably is 5 miles.
I do believe Agnes is a real person, like the other unwilling participants in the fantasy, she may not be from Westview or maybe she is and I'm paranoid, but I'd like to think she's here to either help or hurt Wanda as another witch of sorts.
@@tsrotmasftghhjkuujiou Then why no ID if she is the most prominent of the secondary characters in Wanda's sitcom? They have a clear picture of her face so it shouldn't be that difficult, especially with our modern tech.
“Look, it’s the star of the show.” Agnes tries playing it off as her saying that to her bunny, but she says it without even announcing herself to Wanda, and the fact that she says it as Wanda is looking at the helicopter from the real world. This would make sense if she was referring to Wanda since Wanda is in fact the star not only of WandaVision the Disney+ series, but also the sitcom reality.
I was feeling that this needed a second part within the same video where the 3rd and 4th episodes are brought in to contextualize what he's talking about.
Wasn’t there a moment where Agnes was trying to warn the black neighbor (I wanna say his name is Herb, not sure) to not say too much when they were both talking to vision? Both Agnes and the neighbor seemed to be afraid of something..
@@NandovMovies It does seem, at some level, that the "cast" knows what's up but physically can't say it. It's why Herb and the other person in that scene get all tongue-tied when they're talking to Vision and why Geraldine/Monica can't actually explain herself to Wanda. They're being coerced by some force.
Bruh no one is acknowledging the the fact that Dottie basically snitched on Wanda with a riddle. Woo: Wanda who’s doing this to you? Dottie: How does a woman get blood out of linen? DOING IT HERSELF.
@@NandovMovies I dunno, cloning could also be considered immaculate conception, but I don't think Wanda's twins were a product of science, more that of magic or witchcraft. But even then I don't think that it is possible to create souls out of thin air. I'm guessing that you at least need a Soulstone to create a new soul. Or the sacrifice of another sentient being? But even getting the Soulstone requires the sacrifice of a loved one.
@@TrickyD reading you working through this was cool. On souls don't come out of thin air - in mammalian copulation we know where the genetic material for the husk comes from, and we understand the mechanics of energy circulation. But its pretty much soul out of thin air as we have it with simple procreation now. Even Frankenstein had/has a soul. Just mere thoughts, no solutions hehe. turning on the proper vessel requires/invites a passenger? Soul pool?
_"Forget the past, this is the future."_ ~ Stark Industries (Toaster Mate 3000) That's great! Now, we need a new dry cleaning service for our laundry. Just called it, "IRON MAN".
Bravo! Well done! Sincerely a good one :) Although, given the time period it was set in, and the older, more dated values, used for that, wouldn't IRON WOMAN be more common? Both could work for a good gag :)
His search history must look like he wants a child, and/or start beekeeping and feed his bees pineapple, not like he's looking into a superhero series and made a crazy-person board.
I think Agnes is just a captive like anyone else. Everyone assumes, based on the comics, that there's a big bad causing this, but wouldn't it be better for the story if it was just Wanda, with no outside influences? If there needs to be a villain, maybe it could be someone else who's trapped in the mind stone other than vision.
Personally hoping for one of the following: 1st James Spader or Aaron Taylor to show up and 'visit' the kids as not only fanservice but also as a reference to that sitcom trope of a family member needing a place to crash. Also either of them could get Wanda to snap out of it 2nd Have the X-Men villain Mojo be behind the broadcast and be the big bad at the end. And have the grandmaster and/or the collector turn of the TV their watching as the post credit scene at the end of the season.
500 iq thinking right here... the kids part is so subtle but you managed to figure it out. Agatha wanted Wanda to have kids, which she did, and then really wanted to babysit them, which she finally managed to do in ep 7. You called it by ep 3, you’re a literal 5head... Ps congrats on helping on the woo files pitch!
Episode 5 all but confirms the theory that Agnes is manipulating events - the sitcom reality itself is all Wanda's creation, but I think Agnes is subtly influencing Wanda's decisions and the way she uses her powers. Agnes obviously sets up the dead dog situation to broach the subject of bringing people back from the dead (in 80s sitcom "special episode" fashion, of course). And just a little bit later, Pietro shows up at the door. I think it's clear Wanda resurrected Pietro based on that dead dog conversation. But I think it's also crucial that this is Fox/XMen Pietro rather than Ultron Pietro. Theory: Agnes knows Wanda is powerful enough to create a hole between dimensions, and has been subtly pushing her to do so - the angle is to resurrect the dead, which Wanda can't do in terms of straight up necromancy (at least for living organic beings), but she can bring the alternate version of a dead person from a different reality where they're still alive. Agnes wants to create a rip in the multiverse, and has been nudging Wanda in the direction of doing so. I bet she had Wanda's ear well before the Westview situation, subtly convincing her to try resurrecting the dead, with the eventual goal of getting Wanda to breach the multiverse. I wouldn't be surprised if she had some influence over Wanda resurrecting Vision as well.
Here I was, two weeks ago, watching this video thinking the idea of Agnes being the mastermind of all this was VERY lame (sorry), and now I am back to eat my words. You were onto it the whole time, Nando. I won't doubt you again.
If we assume that Woo is the equivalent of the Wizard of Oz, maybe then he is the one who brings Wanda home, to the real world, much like how the Wizard helps Dorothy get back home
@@StarryEyed0590 ahh true, so maybe Woo fails to like the Wizard, and the woman whose name im forgetting (the astrophysicist) maybe she is the one that finds a way to get Wanda back?
I feel like if this came out before episode 4 I would have been more enticed by this. There are definitely some great observations, insights, and ideas here for sure though. Another great video Nando!
Things I didn't know I needed from the MCU: the mom from that 70s show begging a former terrorist going through the worlds longest mental breakdown for the sweet release of death as the reality she's created is pure Lovecraftian existential agony. And better Pietro is back!
I’m still wondering why the commercials are comments on Wanda’s past and connections to HYDRA and Stark, and why two of those products sound like weapons.
If you remember Age of Ultron, Wanda and Pietro tell Ultron that when they were kids, a Stark bomb/missile struck the building they lived in but didn’t detonate. Wanda’s exact words are “We wait for Tony Stark to kill us.” So yeah, the toaster is a metaphor. The Hydra watch has the name Strucker on it, an allusion to the man who experimented on them both. Then, there’s the Hyrda-soap or whatever it was. Which probably has something to do with brainwashing. My theory is that the commercials are either her subconscious or some repressed memories. Or they’re just cool nods for the fans to dork out over. IDK , but I’m enjoying the heck out this show! Hope that helps Katherine!
@@johnbalk6091 Well put! It didn't occur to me that Hydra-Soak could be about brainwashing. I kept thinking that I must be missing something, that there's more than just the 'Hydra' pun, so thanks!
@@PatrickAliverti Interesting, but the Tesseract doesn't have any kind of connection to Wanda, so I think it might just be a design thing rather than an actual clue. Just a thought.
@@BlueyMcPhluey Yeah, but it is REALLY obvious that this video was mostly written after 1-2, had a little of 3 thrown in there, and then had a few lines stitched on about episode 4 to make it seem "up-to-date" even though the video is so out of sync with episode 4 it's not even clear that Nando watched it and didn't just see a few screencaps. It's not even that most of his ideas were irreconcilable with ep 4 (though some are), it's just that ep 4 forces everything to be re-examined and reconciled and Nando clearly just wasn't interested in doing that work.
The hexagon could also be a reference to the shelves from Doctor Strange that held the upper level magic book. Some have theorized that Wanda or someone has the darkhold.
Excellent ideas coming together! Love it. Don't agree with everything, but you added a lot of new info that I agree ties in beautifully. Also, regarding bees, from episode 4 we now know that the "anomaly" of the town is in the shape of a hexagon! :) Thanks for the video, and keep theorizing!
Like many others here in the comments, I think ep 4 shows that Nando got this way wrong. Another thing I don't see mentioned: There's a major shift in one scene that has been portrayed twice. In ep3, during Wanda and Geraldine's confrontation, Wanda is on the right and Geraldine is on the left, and our perspective is that Geraldine is the antagonist to our hero, Wanda. But when we re-view the scene in ep 4, we now know that Geraldine is Monica, the sweet little girl who designed Capt Marvel's costume colors. They also set her up as much more sympathetic with the harrowing experience of waking up from the blip having missed the recovery, return of cancer, and death of her mother, another hero of ours. Now, we view the confrontation with Monica on the right and Wanda on the left. They shifted camera perspective because they're trying to get us to shift from thinking of Wanda as hero to Wanda as (quasi-)villain. There may be something else nefarious going on the background, but what they've shown us so far suggests much more strongly that Wanda is the problem that everyone needs to solve. She's abducted a town and enslaved them to serve out her fantasy of having a family and normal life with Vision. She's still our hero because we know the pain she's suffered. But that just makes us want them to solve the problem without killing her like they killed so many other villains.
I only watched the trailers and then I started to hear everyone talking about who controls Wanda... I just thought that Wanda used her powers on herself to be with Vision, even if it is an illusion. I mean she has the powers of the mindstone how can someone manipulate her, if not herself?
Nando you should do a series called “my Perfect MCU” you already fixed some movies but you should make a nando verse where all the changes add to each other and you could also add how you reordered phase two
There is one symbol I think you didn't mentioned. There is a bible reference in third episode. When Monica comes over to Wanda, and Wanda tries to hide her pregnancy, She uses a bowl full of fruits to hide her belly, after which Monica takes a bite of an Apple from that bowl . At the end of this episode, Monica is thrown out of Wandas sitcom world, this you can interpret as Eva and Adam being thrown out of paradise after tasting the forbidden fruit. For Wanda her world is a paradise so you can easily see what Im getting at :)
The best theory I've heard, which is not in opposition to most of this, is that Agnes = Agatha Harkness. In the comics she's the mentor of Scarlet Witch. Agnes white bunny is named Scratchy. Agatha Harkness son is named Nicholas Scratch, who is a villain in the comics, and often in cahoots with the devil or even holds devil-like powers. His name is derived from nicknames of the devil - Old Nick/Scratch. And he has often worked with Mephisto. His powers are often connected to taking over towns/haunting them, influencing minds and traveling through dimensions etc. Moreover, both Agatha Harkness and Nicholas Scratch used to nanny Franklyn Richards. The son of Reed Richards. Guess what they called the beekeeper guy - whose face they still havent shown us. Franklyn. Don't know why they would introduce Reed Richards adult child before the Fantastic 4, but it's too much of a coincidence, right? In ep5 they even call an astrophysicist for help... Got to be Reed Richards no? Even though Woo being abbreviation of wizard of oz was a cool thing. I bet it's Nick Scratch who turns out to be the wizard of Oz.
Everyone's saying episode 4 ruins this; but episode 5 confirms (almost) that Agnes is after the kids; she wants them to grow. This video was brilliant given the fact that it was just after 2/3 episodes. Also, what do you think about Ultron coming back; Ik a very wild guess but sword was trying to experiment with vision before wanda broke him off and Paul said he immensely respect the brilliant actor he had a chance to work with at the end of the season ( could be James Spader / could also be Benedict ). wildest guess is Magneto but it's not that wild after the latest episode. :p
I like the theory and it's possible however I have heard that the actor Bettany worked with was someone he hadn't worked with before so I don't think Ultron would count. Benedict would though. I am leaning towards something like Fassbender's Magneto.
So if this whole thing was to get Tommy and Billy, and they’re not a consequence of it, does that mean we’ll see their teenage versions later? Like Billy grows up in the Kaplan household and Tommy is zipping around New Jersey?
Oh this is definitely set up for a teenage Speed and Wiccan. It’s why the babies are hyper-aging, probs so they can be ready for an upcoming Young Avengers movie
This video have a lot of great points. I noticed almost all of the same things he is talking about too. There is something going on with kids, hives, and the Wizard of Oz references are strong one. Wanda is probably some reverse Dorothy.
what always catches me off guard is how on the board, most of the characters have a driver’s license clipped to their sheets with their identities however agnes didn’t have one
Dude your theory just gained a whole lot more credence with the recent episode. I think Agnes/Agatha might be working with a figure like a Mephesto or Grim Reaper on manipulating Wanda by giving her the ability to create what she wants (Westview) and in return gain something of it; her twins specifically. That's why Agnes stops herb in ep3 from telling Vision about what's really happening, they can't have this reality break apart before the children are grown. In ep5, Agnes offers to babysit the twins just like you predicted, and sprays lavender on them which she handwaves away with a dull excuse but later on we know it was likely used to accelerate the twins' growth (or maybe give them the ability to do so) I think the subtle detail that might "confirm" all of this are the hexagons Wanda and Vision at the end of the first 2 episodes, symbolizing that Wanda was under a bigger hive mind from the start just like the residents of Westview.
I’m thinking that a lot of the show’s mysteries hinge on a question that I’ve been having: Is Wanda aware of the commercials? Episode 4 made a big deal about Darcy and Woo not paying attention to them, which makes me feel they’re more important. We’re only halfway through, but so far it has seemed that Wanda is in charge of Westview. I think Agnes is pulling her strings, and she and/or her mysteriously absent husband needs Wanda’s kids for... something. The commercials lean on Wanda’s past, talking about Hydra, Stark, and Strucker. I don’t know if they’re Wanda’s subconscious trying to poke through, or more of her just trying to recontextualize her traumas into something less terrible.
Idk, when they tried to tell vision the truth to me that cut any possibility it was one of the neighbors. Wanda was distracted for the first time in the show and that just so happens to be the one moment people try to reveal the truth? If there were done by a third party controlling the town I think they’d keep that from happening.
Nando that opening was fantastic haha - your humor is always spot on. I've been sharing reviews of each episode along the way on my channel. Really loving this show so far and I'm loving all the theories about it. Great video!
The amount of people who just don't understand this basics of this show is astounding. Like wow the show isn't all mindless punching. Marvel has been pretty stake for me for awhile but I love this show.
To everyone thinking that this is debunked by episode 4, he could still be right. I mean, sure the bee suit wasn't a bee suit, but that doesn't explain the hexagon at all, nor why he was surrounded by bees instead of just a bee suit. Also, he directly mentioned episode 4 multiple times. So he saw it at least before finishing this and did so anyways, so he's still confident about this, and he's super smart, so let's just patiently see. Worst case scenario, I'll treat this like star wars and consider his interpretation the true cannon if the shows canon is less fun
Since we are in spoiler territory, I think they want Wiccan to manifest himself. He is one of the most powerful beings in Marvel, and there may be an antagonist who wants to use him as a host, which was a Young Avengers storyline. This will tie into Doctor Strange, and eventually Young Avengers as they are all starting to appear. Wiccan, Speed, Stature, Iron Lad and Hawkeye all exist in the MCU now, I bet anything Falcon and Winter Soldier will deal with the dark beginnings of the Super Soldier Serum which brings us Patriot
I thought it Wanda doing this to herself since she said “No.” to seeing the beekeeper. The way she said it was akin to seeing blood on white linen. “You have to do it yourself.” Perhaps a nod to how she has to make her own reality to cope.
I really hope they don't add a "mystery villain". I think wanda is plenty enough and adding someone else as the antagonist would make the show less interesting.
the WoO theory is the most original analysis I've seen yet (and I've watched five different channels cover the same four episodes) so thank you for such an original and insightful take on the show! it was really engaging and I'm thoroughly convinced!
As an Englishman, may I just say, you nailed the pronunciation of Lincolnshire having heard many Americans screw up the pronunciation of -shire before it was refreshing
How did you talk about Agnes insisting on Wanda to have kids but miss the part where in episode 2 she says Dolly is great to be friends with because she’s basically in charge of school entries
This is awesome, I'm really glad you did your best to stay away from the comics and I like how by doing that you kind of gave some validity to some theories people had because of the comics
Maybe the real Mephisto was the friends we made along the way.
I hate this comment...*thumbs up*
@@MaximumSherman I hate this reply *also thumbs up*
Underatted comment 😂
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Like Dottie's friend who she yells at all the time. Absolutely Mephisto.
"Jesus, the most famous non Yoda baby" Brilliant quote.
Came here to say this, so thank you!
And it's questionable. I bet the Family Feud for name a famous baby would have Yoda at the top.
What's about Baby Groot?
What about baby Vision? ;)
"I promise you this, there is something on this board that ties everything together"
Me: please be Justin hammer snow globe. Please be Justin hammer snow globe. Please be Justin hamm-
You know Justin Hammers snow globe just had a picture of him in it.
Feel like this video was really thrown off by episode 4...
Maybe not. The beekeeper definitely got debunked, but maybe not. The agent didn't pick the costume, wanda "picked" for him. . Or did she?! Really it's all still up in the air
Definetely not
I mean, the bee keeper suit is to protect him from the hive like the hazmat suit was to protect from the radio waves?
I think some of Episode 4 is a red herring. Especially the "It's all Wanda" line. That feels off.
@@NandovMovies I think this is more about how via Episode 4 we gain a lot of information about SWORD, the hexagon shape, Wanda's level of involvement, the toy helicopter, etc, while your video seems to incorporate ideas from mostly Episodes 1-3 until the very end (at the beginning you even say only three episodes are out).
The helicopter in particular was completely solved (it has the same id numbers as the drone Monica sends in).
As far as "It's all Wanda" I agree Monica can only operate off of what she's experienced in there. Other than what Wanda did to her she knows even less than SWORD does at that point. But it does feel like Wanda is mostly in control and is just acting out her fantasy life to fool Vision into thinking it's real (and maybe herself too). I do think someone else (Agnes) helped kickstart everything, but ended up losing control to Wanda. You can see in Episode 3 Agnes is TERRIFIED of what would happen if Vision discovers the full truth... only person I can think she has reason to fear is Wanda, who she has been manipulating (we think).
Wanda’s in control. Just not as much control as she thinks....
I believe she made a deal with Mephisto to get vision back but there was a catch that they lived in a sitcom that Wanda controlled
@@Mirrorcomics24 I think the catch is Mephisto wants Billy and Tommy. Maybe he sent Agnes to get them 🤔
@@bl3187 did you see episode 4?
@@valo7704 yeah why?
@@bl3187 becouse the mephisto theory sounds a pretty much out of context after the episode 4 said that wanda is who do everything in westview and the people there dont even remember who they are.
I love that Nando watched Ep 4 after making 95% of this video and decided “you know what, let’s release it as-is anyways”
Fk it! Were going live.
Fact lolol I love it
I think Nando has gone full Pepe Silvia at this point.
It was the Woo card, wasn’t it?
@@katherinealvarez9216 that and the “prop” at the beginning of the video
THERE IS NO PEPE SILVIA
@@JoeyPeligro69 There is no Carol Danvers in HR
That right there is the mail. Now let's talk about the mail. Can we talk about the mail, please, Mac? I've been dying to talk about the mail with you all day, OK? "Pepe Silvia," this name keeps coming up over and over again. Every day Pepe's mail is getting sent back to me. Pepe Silvia! Pepe Silvia! I look in the mail, and this whole box is Pepe Silvia! So I say to myself, "I gotta find this guy! I gotta go up to his office and put his mail in the guy's goddamn hands! Otherwise, he's never going to get it and he's going to keep coming back down here." So I go up to Pepe's office and what do I find out, Mac? What do I find out?! There is no Pepe Silvia. The man does not exist, okay? So I decide, "Oh shit, buddy, I gotta dig a little deeper." There's no Pepe Silvia? You gotta be kidding me! I got boxes full of Pepe! All right. So I start marchin' my way down to Carol in HR and I knock on her door and I say, "Carol! Carol! I gotta talk to you about Pepe." And when I open the door what do I find? There's not a single goddamn desk in that office! There...is...no...Carol in HR. Mac, half the employees in this building have been made up. This office is a goddamn ghost town.
I cannot comprehend how everyone is just ignoring the possibility that Wanda is just doing this to everyone. And they’re just straight up ignoring the moments of hostility when people break character. It’s just wild that everyone is like “someone has to be doing this to Wanda. It has to be be someone else”
Same! Like, maybe there isn't anyone else? Maybe she's actually just doing all this her self? But nooooooo, we need to prove mephisto is running the show!
That’s what I was thinking too. Wanda in the comics has a long history of mental instability and I don’t see why they wouldn’t try to translate that into the MCU.
Whether Wanda is perpetuating this sitcom-reality, it was someone else that set her off and caused it to occur.
I don't see Wanda travelling to a random town, taking it hostage, brainwashing the residents, and creating a false sitcom-reality...just to be with Vision. There's way to many unnecessary steps there for the end-goal.
Someone else kick-started this sitcom-reality, and it wasn't Wanda. However, now that she has a life with Vision, she will perpetuate this reality as long as she can to stay with him.
Why would she go to New Jersey if it's all in her control?
@@helloill672 cause it’s near New York and the Avengers were based out of New York... it’s close to home but still far enough away for her to retire
Wanda is doing this. I've known this from the jump. Or they're gaslighting me. I'm pretty sure the events of infinity war and endgame broke her. She watched the only person who she connects with on an intimate level die at her own hand, then die again. She accepted her death as a mercy, but it was false. She confronted the person who took everything from her, and he doesn't care. She wants to be normal again. She's lost everything and everyone fears her. There's a lot of references to her life before Ultron. She wants a family, and a community that accepts her. She's retreating into a fantasy because she can't handle the reality that everything and everyone she ever loved has been destroyed infront of her, or even because of her. Like in the comics, this is a mental break and she's shaping reality around her to ignore her problems.
That being said, I agree with a heck of a lot of this, just while I think Agnes is involved, Wanda is the one doing all of this
Well said
@@tsrotmasftghhjkuujiou That is because Agnes is Wanda's subconcious desire to be a normal mother and wife, even when this simply is impossible because she loves a (dead) synthezoid.
Because of her reality warping powers her twins are only alive within the reach of her hex magic which probably is 5 miles.
I do believe Agnes is a real person, like the other unwilling participants in the fantasy, she may not be from Westview or maybe she is and I'm paranoid, but I'd like to think she's here to either help or hurt Wanda as another witch of sorts.
@@tsrotmasftghhjkuujiou Then why no ID if she is the most prominent of the secondary characters in Wanda's sitcom?
They have a clear picture of her face so it shouldn't be that difficult, especially with our modern tech.
I love how in the context of episode 7, he’s absolutely right.
This is why I'm glad we have weekly episode releases, we wouldn't get super fun mystery vids like this
“Look, it’s the star of the show.”
Agnes tries playing it off as her saying that to her bunny, but she says it without even announcing herself to Wanda, and the fact that she says it as Wanda is looking at the helicopter from the real world. This would make sense if she was referring to Wanda since Wanda is in fact the star not only of WandaVision the Disney+ series, but also the sitcom reality.
never realised that, cool
That's a good point!
I love how wrong Nando is, given the context of episode 4.
I was feeling that this needed a second part within the same video where the 3rd and 4th episodes are brought in to contextualize what he's talking about.
I don't know. We're still halfway through the show. Anything can happen.
I don’t think that what Monica said is the complete truth they wouldn’t tell us the twist when we’re not even half way through
I think he is 100% correct about Agnes/the villain wanting to get the kids (Speed and Wiccan)
What was he 100% wrong about?
Episode 4 is honestly the scariest MCU content I've ever seen
The vision jumpscare alone is the scariest thing in the MCU
@@TotallyJackEarl easily!
It was such a fun watch
Wait for doctor strange 2
Nando: *makes video*
Episode 4: I’m about to end this mans whole career...
Nando: I promise you this, there is something on this board that ties everything together.
Me: ...J...Jesus?
Wasn’t there a moment where Agnes was trying to warn the black neighbor (I wanna say his name is Herb, not sure) to not say too much when they were both talking to vision? Both Agnes and the neighbor seemed to be afraid of something..
It could also be she wants this all to continue for some agenda she may have
They seem to be afraid of "the outsider", like they're defending the town from the outside influence from Geraldine.
his name is Herb, yeah
That's true. I think she knows that Monica is going to ruin her plan.
@@NandovMovies It does seem, at some level, that the "cast" knows what's up but physically can't say it. It's why Herb and the other person in that scene get all tongue-tied when they're talking to Vision and why Geraldine/Monica can't actually explain herself to Wanda. They're being coerced by some force.
Bruh no one is acknowledging the the fact that Dottie basically snitched on Wanda with a riddle.
Woo: Wanda who’s doing this to you?
Dottie: How does a woman get blood out of linen? DOING IT HERSELF.
i caught that too. was really surprised the youtubers didn't emphasize this, but maybe its because the law of parsimony is not great for content
Wow...I completely missed that.
So Nando has a “vision board”
Indeed
Foooorrrr yooooouuuu.
One of those cards just says “Jesus” and I think that’s hilarious
I mean he's the son of a god. He's resurrected. Immaculate conception. There is a lot there.
@@NandovMovies I dunno, cloning could also be considered immaculate conception, but I don't think Wanda's twins were a product of science, more that of magic or witchcraft.
But even then I don't think that it is possible to create souls out of thin air. I'm guessing that you at least need a Soulstone to create a new soul.
Or the sacrifice of another sentient being?
But even getting the Soulstone requires the sacrifice of a loved one.
@@TrickyD reading you working through this was cool. On souls don't come out of thin air - in mammalian copulation we know where the genetic material for the husk comes from, and we understand the mechanics of energy circulation. But its pretty much soul out of thin air as we have it with simple procreation now. Even Frankenstein had/has a soul. Just mere thoughts, no solutions hehe. turning on the proper vessel requires/invites a passenger? Soul pool?
Mando: let's read way too far into wandavision
Me: ok, let's
_"Forget the past, this is the future."_ ~ Stark Industries (Toaster Mate 3000)
That's great! Now, we need a new dry cleaning service for our laundry. Just called it, "IRON MAN".
Bravo! Well done! Sincerely a good one :)
Although, given the time period it was set in, and the older, more dated values, used for that, wouldn't IRON WOMAN be more common? Both could work for a good gag :)
Yessss
Agnes babysitting makes a lot of sense considering the fact that Agatha the Harkness was Franklin Richards' babysitter.
That's true! I didn't want to get into Agatha's backstory too much but that fits in well.
His search history must look like he wants a child, and/or start beekeeping and feed his bees pineapple, not like he's looking into a superhero series and made a crazy-person board.
I think Agnes is just a captive like anyone else. Everyone assumes, based on the comics, that there's a big bad causing this, but wouldn't it be better for the story if it was just Wanda, with no outside influences? If there needs to be a villain, maybe it could be someone else who's trapped in the mind stone other than vision.
I feel the symbol of the bee is more like Wanda is the queen bee and the rest of the town is the workers bees for her surrounding her.
Personally hoping for one of the following:
1st James Spader or Aaron Taylor to show up and 'visit' the kids as not only fanservice but also as a reference to that sitcom trope of a family member needing a place to crash. Also either of them could get Wanda to snap out of it
2nd Have the X-Men villain Mojo be behind the broadcast and be the big bad at the end. And have the grandmaster and/or the collector turn of the TV their watching as the post credit scene at the end of the season.
I REALLY wanted james spader to show up as visions boss or something. Robert California style. Would have been hilarious.
@@faron4685 or his father, since we already know who Vision's boss is
Your 1st point we're cool but the second one just feels out of touch with how the show is going
Oh damn seeing Mojo appear in live action would be terrifying
Id want mojo to come, maybe talked about in thor or guardians, but i doubt will come in wanda vision
Boy, were you right about Agnes and the children and the baby sitting 🤣👏🏼
Two entirely separate theories being presented like they're one. I can dig it.
500 iq thinking right here... the kids part is so subtle but you managed to figure it out. Agatha wanted Wanda to have kids, which she did, and then really wanted to babysit them, which she finally managed to do in ep 7. You called it by ep 3, you’re a literal 5head...
Ps congrats on helping on the woo files pitch!
Episode 5 all but confirms the theory that Agnes is manipulating events - the sitcom reality itself is all Wanda's creation, but I think Agnes is subtly influencing Wanda's decisions and the way she uses her powers. Agnes obviously sets up the dead dog situation to broach the subject of bringing people back from the dead (in 80s sitcom "special episode" fashion, of course). And just a little bit later, Pietro shows up at the door. I think it's clear Wanda resurrected Pietro based on that dead dog conversation. But I think it's also crucial that this is Fox/XMen Pietro rather than Ultron Pietro. Theory: Agnes knows Wanda is powerful enough to create a hole between dimensions, and has been subtly pushing her to do so - the angle is to resurrect the dead, which Wanda can't do in terms of straight up necromancy (at least for living organic beings), but she can bring the alternate version of a dead person from a different reality where they're still alive. Agnes wants to create a rip in the multiverse, and has been nudging Wanda in the direction of doing so. I bet she had Wanda's ear well before the Westview situation, subtly convincing her to try resurrecting the dead, with the eventual goal of getting Wanda to breach the multiverse. I wouldn't be surprised if she had some influence over Wanda resurrecting Vision as well.
Episode 5 didn't confirm anything, just debunked it.
12:17 “What is Agnes going to to?”
She killed Sparky.
Here I was, two weeks ago, watching this video thinking the idea of Agnes being the mastermind of all this was VERY lame (sorry), and now I am back to eat my words. You were onto it the whole time, Nando. I won't doubt you again.
Just wait til she turns out to be weak against water like the Wicked Witch
If we assume that Woo is the equivalent of the Wizard of Oz, maybe then he is the one who brings Wanda home, to the real world, much like how the Wizard helps Dorothy get back home
Ooh, that would be nice!
Also I love that they brought Woo back - I really liked him in Antman and the Wasp :)
But it's Glinda who gets Dorothy home, not the Wizard
@@StarryEyed0590 ahh true, so maybe Woo fails to like the Wizard, and the woman whose name im forgetting (the astrophysicist) maybe she is the one that finds a way to get Wanda back?
I feel like if this came out before episode 4 I would have been more enticed by this. There are definitely some great observations, insights, and ideas here for sure though. Another great video Nando!
Things I didn't know I needed from the MCU: the mom from that 70s show begging a former terrorist going through the worlds longest mental breakdown for the sweet release of death as the reality she's created is pure Lovecraftian existential agony. And better Pietro is back!
I’m still wondering why the commercials are comments on Wanda’s past and connections to HYDRA and Stark, and why two of those products sound like weapons.
If you remember Age of Ultron, Wanda and Pietro tell Ultron that when they were kids, a Stark bomb/missile struck the building they lived in but didn’t detonate. Wanda’s exact words are “We wait for Tony Stark to kill us.” So yeah, the toaster is a metaphor. The Hydra watch has the name Strucker on it, an allusion to the man who experimented on them both. Then, there’s the Hyrda-soap or whatever it was. Which probably has something to do with brainwashing. My theory is that the commercials are either her subconscious or some repressed memories. Or they’re just cool nods for the fans to dork out over. IDK , but I’m enjoying the heck out this show! Hope that helps Katherine!
@@johnbalk6091 Well put!
It didn't occur to me that Hydra-Soak could be about brainwashing. I kept thinking that I must be missing something, that there's more than just the 'Hydra' pun, so thanks!
Someone had pointed out that the Hyrda-Soap itself looks similarly to the tesseract. Which Hydra had in their possession with the Red Skull in Cap 1.
@@PatrickAliverti Interesting, but the Tesseract doesn't have any kind of connection to Wanda, so I think it might just be a design thing rather than an actual clue. Just a thought.
@@PatrickAliverti speaking of Hydra and bathing, Zeemo drowns someone in Civil War.
I love that people are having fun with rogue theories. We needed this to take our minds off things 💛
Nado smol brained with the bees but GENIUS with most of the rest
This video consists of more impressive stretching than I've seen from any contortionist.
It is a reference to Fantastic Four.
@@Theraot LOL
With all these bees, I’m surprised no one has mentioned The Swarm.
I knew it, Jimmy Woo has been practicing real magic to save Wanda.
then episode 4 comes out and shuts down most of these theories
Hold it, Woo is definaly a wizard. How else could he do such a magic card trick.
it's funny because this was posted after episode 4
@@BlueyMcPhluey Yeah, but it is REALLY obvious that this video was mostly written after 1-2, had a little of 3 thrown in there, and then had a few lines stitched on about episode 4 to make it seem "up-to-date" even though the video is so out of sync with episode 4 it's not even clear that Nando watched it and didn't just see a few screencaps. It's not even that most of his ideas were irreconcilable with ep 4 (though some are), it's just that ep 4 forces everything to be re-examined and reconciled and Nando clearly just wasn't interested in doing that work.
Ok you completely had me on the Wizard of Oz idea when you put the woo post-it on the board
The hexagon could also be a reference to the shelves from Doctor Strange that held the upper level magic book. Some have theorized that Wanda or someone has the darkhold.
the one thing on the board that ties everything together is red string
Excellent ideas coming together! Love it. Don't agree with everything, but you added a lot of new info that I agree ties in beautifully.
Also, regarding bees, from episode 4 we now know that the "anomaly" of the town is in the shape of a hexagon! :)
Thanks for the video, and keep theorizing!
Like many others here in the comments, I think ep 4 shows that Nando got this way wrong.
Another thing I don't see mentioned: There's a major shift in one scene that has been portrayed twice. In ep3, during Wanda and Geraldine's confrontation, Wanda is on the right and Geraldine is on the left, and our perspective is that Geraldine is the antagonist to our hero, Wanda. But when we re-view the scene in ep 4, we now know that Geraldine is Monica, the sweet little girl who designed Capt Marvel's costume colors. They also set her up as much more sympathetic with the harrowing experience of waking up from the blip having missed the recovery, return of cancer, and death of her mother, another hero of ours. Now, we view the confrontation with Monica on the right and Wanda on the left. They shifted camera perspective because they're trying to get us to shift from thinking of Wanda as hero to Wanda as (quasi-)villain.
There may be something else nefarious going on the background, but what they've shown us so far suggests much more strongly that Wanda is the problem that everyone needs to solve. She's abducted a town and enslaved them to serve out her fantasy of having a family and normal life with Vision. She's still our hero because we know the pain she's suffered. But that just makes us want them to solve the problem without killing her like they killed so many other villains.
Agnes has broken character. When she was at the fence with the black dude.
she didnt brake cheacter. she was preventing Herb from braking character.
@@SD-zz4ov no, she broke character. She said the thing that started Herb breaking (yes, that how you spell it) character. Watch it again.
I only watched the trailers and then I started to hear everyone talking about who controls Wanda...
I just thought that Wanda used her powers on herself to be with Vision, even if it is an illusion. I mean she has the powers of the mindstone how can someone manipulate her, if not herself?
Nando you should do a series called “my Perfect MCU” you already fixed some movies but you should make a nando verse where all the changes add to each other and you could also add how you reordered phase two
What if that “For the children” means something more...something sinister
Like what? Wanda's kids being harvested as a vessel for the devil? Or as a human sacrifice?
@@Alejandroigarabide I’m not gonna tell but look up some set pics form this if you dare...your blood will run cold
@@donovanmartin7946 In that case I'd rather wait for the series to reveal the answer. It sounds like nightmare fuel. Thanks anyway, fellow fan.
@@Alejandroigarabide I'm with you, let's wait :)
Hey, looks like you guessed it right.
There is one symbol I think you didn't mentioned.
There is a bible reference in third episode. When Monica comes over to Wanda, and Wanda tries to hide her pregnancy, She uses a bowl full of fruits to hide her belly, after which Monica takes a bite of an Apple from that bowl . At the end of this episode, Monica is thrown out of Wandas sitcom world, this you can interpret as Eva and Adam being thrown out of paradise after tasting the forbidden fruit. For Wanda her world is a paradise so you can easily see what Im getting at :)
Yeah nice one
And in the finale, we got a crushed witch under a heavy object with only her shoes poking out!
The best theory I've heard, which is not in opposition to most of this, is that Agnes = Agatha Harkness. In the comics she's the mentor of Scarlet Witch. Agnes white bunny is named Scratchy. Agatha Harkness son is named Nicholas Scratch, who is a villain in the comics, and often in cahoots with the devil or even holds devil-like powers. His name is derived from nicknames of the devil - Old Nick/Scratch. And he has often worked with Mephisto. His powers are often connected to taking over towns/haunting them, influencing minds and traveling through dimensions etc. Moreover, both Agatha Harkness and Nicholas Scratch used to nanny Franklyn Richards. The son of Reed Richards. Guess what they called the beekeeper guy - whose face they still havent shown us. Franklyn. Don't know why they would introduce Reed Richards adult child before the Fantastic 4, but it's too much of a coincidence, right? In ep5 they even call an astrophysicist for help... Got to be Reed Richards no?
Even though Woo being abbreviation of wizard of oz was a cool thing. I bet it's Nick Scratch who turns out to be the wizard of Oz.
Everyone's saying episode 4 ruins this; but episode 5 confirms (almost) that Agnes is after the kids; she wants them to grow. This video was brilliant given the fact that it was just after 2/3 episodes.
Also, what do you think about Ultron coming back; Ik a very wild guess but sword was trying to experiment with vision before wanda broke him off and Paul said he immensely respect the brilliant actor he had a chance to work with at the end of the season ( could be James Spader / could also be Benedict ).
wildest guess is Magneto but it's not that wild after the latest episode. :p
I like the theory and it's possible however I have heard that the actor Bettany worked with was someone he hadn't worked with before so I don't think Ultron would count. Benedict would though. I am leaning towards something like Fassbender's Magneto.
So if this whole thing was to get Tommy and Billy, and they’re not a consequence of it, does that mean we’ll see their teenage versions later? Like Billy grows up in the Kaplan household and Tommy is zipping around New Jersey?
Oh this is definitely set up for a teenage Speed and Wiccan. It’s why the babies are hyper-aging, probs so they can be ready for an upcoming Young Avengers movie
This video have a lot of great points. I noticed almost all of the same things he is talking about too. There is something going on with kids, hives, and the Wizard of Oz references are strong one. Wanda is probably some reverse Dorothy.
Dang I was hoping he would talk about the missing sixes on all the clocks. That one is throwing me
Could Jimmy Woo's missing person be a former hydra scientist Wanda captured for revenge or to restore vision?
Interesting theory! I've been wondering who was the original missing person in witness protection that started the investigation.
"Baby jesus: the most famous non-Yoda baby" LMFAOOOOOO😂😂😂😂😂
Okay, The Wizard of Oz is tied into it, because there is a magician who doesn't do real magic (Woo), and a witch (Agatha). Among other things.
what always catches me off guard is how on the board, most of the characters have a driver’s license clipped to their sheets with their identities however agnes didn’t have one
Maybe she never learned to drive?
Or it could indicate that she's not a real person or something, who knows.
@@miriamrosemary9110 maybe- my mistake is that they may just be IDs instead of drivers license. either way i found it interesting
i lost it when you showed the abbreviation of Woo. absolute genius and comedy gold
Dude your theory just gained a whole lot more credence with the recent episode.
I think Agnes/Agatha might be working with a figure like a Mephesto or Grim Reaper on manipulating Wanda by giving her the ability to create what she wants (Westview) and in return gain something of it; her twins specifically. That's why Agnes stops herb in ep3 from telling Vision about what's really happening, they can't have this reality break apart before the children are grown.
In ep5, Agnes offers to babysit the twins just like you predicted, and sprays lavender on them which she handwaves away with a dull excuse but later on we know it was likely used to accelerate the twins' growth (or maybe give them the ability to do so)
I think the subtle detail that might "confirm" all of this are the hexagons Wanda and Vision at the end of the first 2 episodes, symbolizing that Wanda was under a bigger hive mind from the start just like the residents of Westview.
I’m thinking that a lot of the show’s mysteries hinge on a question that I’ve been having: Is Wanda aware of the commercials? Episode 4 made a big deal about Darcy and Woo not paying attention to them, which makes me feel they’re more important. We’re only halfway through, but so far it has seemed that Wanda is in charge of Westview. I think Agnes is pulling her strings, and she and/or her mysteriously absent husband needs Wanda’s kids for... something. The commercials lean on Wanda’s past, talking about Hydra, Stark, and Strucker. I don’t know if they’re Wanda’s subconscious trying to poke through, or more of her just trying to recontextualize her traumas into something less terrible.
Idk, when they tried to tell vision the truth to me that cut any possibility it was one of the neighbors. Wanda was distracted for the first time in the show and that just so happens to be the one moment people try to reveal the truth? If there were done by a third party controlling the town I think they’d keep that from happening.
Holy shit! I think the fact that you called Agnes babysitting the twins gets way too little recognition!!
Agreee
It was Agatha all along
Nando that opening was fantastic haha - your humor is always spot on. I've been sharing reviews of each episode along the way on my channel. Really loving this show so far and I'm loving all the theories about it. Great video!
I’m pretty sure it’s just her dealing with stuff
Man I wish that beekeeper was swarm and not some random guy
Hexagons r used for a lot of things not just hives
The amount of people who just don't understand this basics of this show is astounding. Like wow the show isn't all mindless punching. Marvel has been pretty stake for me for awhile but I love this show.
To everyone thinking that this is debunked by episode 4, he could still be right. I mean, sure the bee suit wasn't a bee suit, but that doesn't explain the hexagon at all, nor why he was surrounded by bees instead of just a bee suit.
Also, he directly mentioned episode 4 multiple times. So he saw it at least before finishing this and did so anyways, so he's still confident about this, and he's super smart, so let's just patiently see.
Worst case scenario, I'll treat this like star wars and consider his interpretation the true cannon if the shows canon is less fun
Since we are in spoiler territory, I think they want Wiccan to manifest himself. He is one of the most powerful beings in Marvel, and there may be an antagonist who wants to use him as a host, which was a Young Avengers storyline. This will tie into Doctor Strange, and eventually Young Avengers as they are all starting to appear. Wiccan, Speed, Stature, Iron Lad and Hawkeye all exist in the MCU now, I bet anything Falcon and Winter Soldier will deal with the dark beginnings of the Super Soldier Serum which brings us Patriot
Surely the hexagons are a reference to her Hex powers in the comics?
“New Joiysey!”
Nando, did you just refer to Mad-Eye Moody as a "villainous wizard?"
I think he referred to Barty Crouch Jr as a villainous wizard ;)
I thought it Wanda doing this to herself since she said “No.” to seeing the beekeeper.
The way she said it was akin to seeing blood on white linen. “You have to do it yourself.” Perhaps a nod to how she has to make her own reality to cope.
He was a hero... I just couldn't see it at the time.
Qui-bees was on the board and I thought it was a sponsor.
I really hope they don't add a "mystery villain". I think wanda is plenty enough and adding someone else as the antagonist would make the show less interesting.
You should have waited until episode 4 came out to talk about the beekeeper...
I'll stop you right there. It was agatha all along. Thank you. Ted Talk over.
Nando: has theory
Episode 4: hold on
Everyone: it's Mephisto
Nando: pineapples
Mephisto is the pineapple. It's so obvious now.
I fucking knew it!
Also the rabbit being baby Jesus? Virgin birth, which you can sort of say Wiccan and Speed are.
Not gonna lie, the Wizard of Oz thing just really took the video off the rails
In a good way or bad?
It was unexpected, but I liked it, and I think it added to it. Not perfectly, but a little!
Everything in this video is way too much of a reach.
DC Blue Beetle crossover confirmed.
Maybe, but it got me thinking about certain aspects that I didn't before, and I learned a few things about Wizard of Oz :)
the WoO theory is the most original analysis I've seen yet (and I've watched five different channels cover the same four episodes) so thank you for such an original and insightful take on the show! it was really engaging and I'm thoroughly convinced!
Waiting between weeks is worth it for extra Nando videos!
As an Englishman, may I just say, you nailed the pronunciation of Lincolnshire having heard many Americans screw up the pronunciation of -shire before it was refreshing
Just heard you mentioned in the weekly planet and boom you drop a video on the same subject going into more detail. So awesome 👏
How did you talk about Agnes insisting on Wanda to have kids but miss the part where in episode 2 she says Dolly is great to be friends with because she’s basically in charge of school entries
He didn't miss it. He mentioned it.
Nando, man, you should have included the recent episode. Waited a bit or something. Considering all the answers in episode 4.
I think who is controlling wanda is justin hammer ! Oh yeah it makes so much sense how didn't i saw this
This is awesome, I'm really glad you did your best to stay away from the comics and I like how by doing that you kind of gave some validity to some theories people had because of the comics
The most famous non Yoda baby.
Wow! Your Wizard Of OZ comparisons are mindblowing! Gotta keep that in mind as the series proceeds~