Powermatic PM2820EVS Drillpress Unboxing & Assembly
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2022
- Powermatic recommends 3 people for assembling their 400+lb PM2820EVS drillpress, but it can be done working solo. This thorough unboxing and assembly video ends with a surprising twist: is it an upgrade, or is it a lemon? Watch to find out!
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Great video Matt! Sorry to hear about your variable speed control not working. I wish I could say it surprises me, but it doesn't. I have a shop full of Powermatic and I think their quality assurance has been lacking for the last 5 years. They are still very good tools, but this kind of thing should not happen with top of the line stuff. I have had good response from their tech assistance folks on the phone though (just don't contact them via email because it appears no one is watching the inbox). PS - Thanks for the shout out on my video 🙂
The speed control story is still being written with twists and turns worthy of a novel. My initial call (as mentioned in the video) was encouraging but I never got that call back. When I called today to check on it there was no record of my previous call. Now I'm concerned because the dude I talked to today said I need to send an email to start the resolution process which isn't encouraging because of your comment... who knew?
To add further drama I'm amazed that the speed control has actually started working... mostly... and I absolutely love the machine! It runs so smoothly, the bright light reminds me of how my eyes worked 30 years ago and the Llambrich chuck (purchased because you featured yours)? How did I EVER do without that?!
Let me know if there's anything I can do to return favors or collaborate... I like your stile and wish you well in all your endeavors!
Best,
Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry Ha, I hear you on the eyesight. I have replaced all the florescent tubes in my shop with the brightest LED ones I could get. No energy savings, but its lit like a stadium.
What's amazing to me about that Llambrich chuck is that after a couple years of use, I have yet to have it slip on any bit, and I only use my hands to tighten it. But to release a bit, it also doesn't stick. A quick flick of a wrist (one handed) will drop the bit right out. Its amazing what good design and machining can do together!
@@JNWoodworks "... like a stadium..." LOL!
I'm curious where and how you found out about Llambrich Chucks. I sense some background or experience at as a machinist or in tool and die?
Also curious about where you bought yours. I got mine through Grainger and guys at Acme Tool sounded like they might be interested in adopting the line. I saw a few of them on Amazon but not this particular model and Amazon certainly didn't have the back ground knowledge to help me figure out the right Chuck for my needs and my drill press.
I appreciate all your feedback and insight...
@@NextLevelCarpentry Actually, I'm a recently retired electrical engineer that used to design computer chip test equipment. However, I have always been interested in mechanical, thermal, and SW aspects of engineering as well, so I dabble in everything. Woodworking was my hobby for 40 years, but now I also have an AVID CNC and added a couple lasers to that just to keep the engineering juices flowing :-)
I bought my chuck off of ebay two years ago. It looks like the link for it is no longer active, but there are other Llambrich chucks for sale there yet as well. Amazon has some too. I don't remember how I ran across this. I think I was just looking for a better chuck because the one I had was kinda disgusting compared to the ones I saw on some precision metal lathes and mills on RUclips, so I just went looking. Every time I use it is still puts a smile on my face.
@@JNWoodworks I wouldn't have guessed an electrical engineering background but then again engineering is more a mindset than a specialty.
Although I've never been thrilled with any drill press checks it never occurred to me to look for an upgrade so I'm glad for a ride on your coattail in discovering them😁😎. Between the amazing LED work light and the keyless Chuck I'm like a kid at Christmas!
FWIW I found that your insight into phone call versus email with Powermatic is valid. I ended up talking to a very helpful guy who is sending a new variable speed controller and printed circuit board to cover all possibilities for the cause of the problem so I'm confident I'll be putting the whole thing behind me soon... thanks again for all your input on this!
"Don't let your browser hit you in the backside on the way out." The keyboard commandos are going to need an extra dose of copium from that one! Love it!
Your videos are always the best. Most unbiased info, excellent insights, great topics. The special effects on this one were pretty fun too. Keep up the top-notch work!
Been watching for quite a while now. Just realized your delivery has become really smooth over time. Keep it up and keep em coming!
Thanks for noticing and saying... I've learned a few video editing tricks over the years and a faster computer allows me to process huge video files and combined those two things lead to more watchable videos.
Thanks for not ignoring me when video production was less and hope there's some reward from better video quality in recent times...
I always like your integrity and the craftmanship you present.
Well, thanks, James. As you'll see, this video challenged both the qualities you attribute to me because of unforeseen events during video production. Keeps me on my toes for sure!
Happy Independence Day!!
Best,
Matt
Actually, it was a nice touch to leave the bit about the broken machine in the video. I like honesty...always! Thank you.
Looks like great gear. I am sure it will serve you well for years to come. Thanks for the video! 👍👍
Youbetcha, Jerry!
Great video, I see you also created the wood inserts to replace the plastic factory one. I’ve always enjoyed your unbiased & “real life” take on things. Thank you!
Good eye, Jim! The fact the variable speed didn't work and then later kinda worked a bit before not working again threw my video production/scripting into a tailspin so I took the occasion to figure out a 'system' for those disposable inserts. I'm in the process of doing a video for Patreon showing what I came up with...
Best,
Matt
Matt, finally!!! You have been teasing us for over a month. Just building up the anticipation for the big unboxing and assembly. Looking forward to your 6 month review.
Yeah, for sure, Steve... thanks for saying 'teasing' instead of 'milking'! 🤣
FYI I've shot video of making a stack of sacrificial inserts for the table which will be the next patron-only video which should upload this week. 6-month review should be telling though because that's about enough time to distinguish goo-gah features from useful ones and I'll be sure to let you know...
Best,
Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry I have a Jet with the sacrificial inserts. Set up and made several when I set up the machine, still have some. Kept the plastic for a pattern.
@@jimpalmer1944 Good plan. Seems like a great feature compared to the large sacrificial tabletop I've always used and I'm looking forward to using it...
I remember climbing up a ladder to work the lever of our CM Come-Along, it’s what we had.
Now it’s a Chainfall on a trolly, on an I-beam.
I’ve had the PM2800 since 2008±, no complaints. The Nova looks interesting!
Quality content as usual! Thanks Matt!
I wanted to upgrade from my old Delta to the PM2800 but saw so many bad reviews of it I held off until the 2820 came along with much more favorable press. I had opportunity to get a Nova but didn't like the idea of 'programming' just to drill a hole. Probably fine to use but I get the sense it would be a bit of a learning curve?
Always nice to upgrade when it works out, whether it's a come along or a drillpress, right?
Best,
Matt
I really enjoy this type of content from you Matt.
Thanks for sayin' JT... much appreciated.
Best,
Matt
I have a 20+ year old "Cheap" drill press that I upgraded with a keyless chuck 2 years ago and never regretted it. It is likely the easiest and cheapest upgrade you can make to a drill press.
Great video. I may have to make a skyhook for my garage.
Great video Matt! The only issue I had with the lifting of the head was with the strap that went to the front of the head. You had it looped through the eye for your strap around the back. In this case, because the head is so light, it wasn't an issue, but by doing it this way, the strap for the back was taking the full weight of the head. The front strap should have been looped up to the hook of the chain fall, so the back strap wasn't holding the whole weight. As I said though, not a big deal with this lift, but when lifting in the future, keep it in mind.
Good advise, politely presented... thanks Greg!
Best,
Matt
Hi Matt! Thanks so much for the video!
I purchased my 2820EVS in January of this year and just got to the assembly yesterday. Your video was invaluable, I didn't need to open the manual until I had the head on the column and needed to check overall height to make sure the head was all the way down.
I used all of your tips during the assembly as I work alone most of the time. My wife was able to help a couple of times when needed. I bolted my base to a double thickness 3/4 Baltic birch plywood sub-base and set it in a mobile base from Bora. Not sure about the Bora base yet. I may go to the Rockler All-Terrain mobile base that I had on my last drill press, it worked really well for several years.
Thanks again, Al
Thanks for letting me know Alan... and congrats on adding an excellent machine to your shop!
I like mine more every time I use it because it's SO fast to set up accurately for repetitive cuts. It's also amazing for quickly setting up for just drilling just one hole. Hopefully you didn't have any issues with the electronic control/switch like I did?
FWIW you'll see mine in use for a number of steps in the next Next Level Carpentry video on RUclips that's a Master Class for building a Master Carpenter's Tool Tote...
Best,
Matt
New tool is like Christmas. Happy 4th of July Matt.
thanks again for a great video. :)
The green screening as amusing. Briefly. All in all thie to me is the best, most instructive, video of yours I have seen
Very well done.
Thank you
Teal quick, I've had positive experiences with Acme Tools so I understand going to them for your purchase.
Great Video. I picked one up last December and have no regrets. I think the PM2820EVS is a great drill press. I had a very small issue with the table and PM customer service was great in resolving the issue. I am sure your issue will be resolved. You will not miss the old belt and pulley system once you get it up and running.
Glad to hear it... I'd much rather deal with a problem like this with a new machine than one that's a week past the warranty period, right?
Best,
Matt
Been there and that's the worst. Given that the PM2820 EVS cost a pretty penny and worse with post pandemic sticker shock you would think quality control would catch things like this before the machine is boxed. Now it's all up to PM customer service to shine.
Nice looking drill. Having used a Voyager DVR drill press for a few years, it would be very hard having to go back to changing belts on pulleys. Along similar lines to the Henry Ford quote, a friend told me "much better to have a tool you don't need, than need a tool you don't have". Thanks for the video. Cheers, David
Great quote... I'll add it to my repertoire, thanks!
Best,
Matt
As soon as you advised any trolls if they didn’t like it, don’t let your browser hit you in the backside on the way out, I reached over, and because I’m already subscribed, I hit the thumbs up button so I didn’t forget it! Thanks for the laugh and another great video.
Love this guy.
Nice drill press, thanks for sharing
Great video!
I have the Nova voyager, a similar setup. Here how I attach the head to the column, alone in less then 5 minutes.
With the head resting on the packaging foam, I lay down the column horizontally. Alligning the column into the head, tighting the bolts from the head and voila! It was safe, quick and easy.
Good luck with your new toy :)
Good job on the lift. I think it looked a lot easier for you with the chainfall and you even could have got a smaller one but you can still use that for other lifts elsewhere. That pickup is one of places come along works good to be one leg of pickup (still need two slings just one would need to be a bit longer than the one) to balance the load but the rachet straps worked out too. Looks like a real nice drill press can't wait to see some new projects on it.
Great video. I thought the mini you was a nice touch.
I'm pretty sleepy also, long day so I'll say good night. Catch you on the next one.
Great video Matt! And the sky lift is awesome. Well done. Nice drill press, and I've never heard of Lambert chucks. But I will be looking into them. Thank you sir for another well thought out, end well put together video, anyhow all the way around great video! Take care, and until next time! 👍
Hey Brent,
Thanks for watching and commenting on this one.
FYI when you check into the Chuck's the correct spelling is Llambrich. It's an amazing piece of machinery but they do price it accordingly. There's other aftermarket keyless trucks out there which are probably more than good enough for significantly less money if cost ends up as a factor.
I appreciate your kind words on the video too!
Best, Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry Your welcome. And thanks for the correction on the spelling. And I'm sure they are priced as a well tuned piece of machinery. Also I picked up a keyless chuck a few years ago for my drill press, and I'm looking at the box it came in right now. It doesn't even have a name on it. Lol. It says professional drill chuck. Top quality. Satisfaction guaranteed.... However I think I spent around 35-40 dollars on this one. And it goes from 1/32-5/8"
The gags are getting worse, but content is better than ever Matt. Love your straight up, speak it as you see it approach. That was also the most entertaining promo for Acme - they seem to be just as straight and say it like it is as you. Pity they don't have outlets in Australia.
Great video, Matt. I hope you get the speed control working reliably. I've had zero problems with mine, and I love the speed control feature. My old Delta required moving the belts for every speed change, so I admit I'm guilty of running it an inappropriate speeds because I'm lazy. Never again with the electronic variable speed! I've had my chuck drop out a few times when using large Forstner bits that get jammed. It never occurred to me to clean the female side of the taper. I'll definitely have to give that a shot and see if it improves things.
I felt a bit more confident going into this with insight from your experience. Hope your chuck stays stuck from now on! Crazy thing is, since I already had self-contained variable speed on the Delta, the features I'm looking most forward to are the keyless chuck and... wait for it... the LED worklight!
Hi Matt! Congratulations to your new drill press. Looks like a pretty neat machine. Just one comment on installing the chuck: It is even better, to fully insert a 1/2" diameter steel rod into the open chuck and give that one a hit with the plastic hammer, instead of hitting the face of the chuck. The rod transfers the force directly to the bottom of the chuck without putting stress on the locking mechanism of the chuck.
Just replaced the old chuck on my drill press with a keyless from Röhm (the top notch manufacturerer of chucks over here in Germany) and it makes a huge difference in terms of accuracy.
Have fun with your machine!
Best Regards
Andreas
I like it... thanks for adding what sounds like legit advice, Andreas!
Best,
Matt
Nice machine and love the chain fall. Strange failure mode on the speed control, should be interesting what you find. Thanks for posting this video!
You're welcome, DJ. It doesn't show up in the video but the variable speed ended up actually kind of working at one point so I tend to think it's the control itself that's flaky but could just as easily be the 'chip'... time will tell, right?
Best,
Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry Seems like it has a ramp up and down time. Maybe to stop motor shock from abrupt speed changes. Or a faulty controller.
Nice setup video. My old simple drill press is one of my favorite shop tools but those new high tech would be nice. BTW I don’t think the come along knows wether it’s pulling or lifting, but the chain fall is superior.
congradulations!
Matt, that was an awesome video. The fit and finish of the Powermatic is very nice. Hope you figure out what the issue was in the speed control was. Technology can be great but also frustrating when things don’t work as advertised. Thanks again for a wonderful video and hope you and the family have a wonderful 4th of July.
Now "THAT" is a drill press. (hope you speak Southern). As always, Great Information. I appreciate your detail. Please don't apologize to anyone for anything. (unless you let a toot and the Sunday dinner table.
Good video
I upgraded to a high end South Bend keyless chuck and did not order the optional tightening wrench. I loved the ease of using this chuck and no drill bits came loose from hand tiightening the chuck. Then one day my new chuck developed an extremely tight grip on one drill.bit. Support advised ordering the optional wrench that has a pin on one end that fits in a hole. Standard wrenches would have marred the chuck's finely machined surface. This wrench provided enough leverage to easily loosen the chuck's death grip on my drill. My chuck works as well now as it did before this one incident.
Your unneeded chuck wrench will come in handy some day to extract a stuck drill bit!
Point well taken... I'm sure the day will come when I encounter the exact same scenario you describe... thanks!
😁😎
Sleep well on that cliff hanger :P
Nice work using that chain hoist and setting up the machine.
Good stuff!
You mentioned a couple of times about making the table level. The real issue is not having it level, it is having it perpendicular to the column. On second thought, make that perpendicular to the SPINDLE. You have that table tilt mechanism, with the adjustable index, so you really want to get that zeroed vs the spindle and then adjust the index point. At the same time I suggest checking how well the table aligns with the spindle on the other axis, front to rear. In other words on the axis you can't really adjust. Well, you sort of could adjust it using those leveling screws under the table insert... lets hope you don't find anything wrong when you do that check. My mind is full of things like dial indicators you could use for some of that, memories from my summer job as a machinist fifty-plus years ago. But I think something like a perfectly straight piece of drill rod chucked in the spindle (not too short, say six inches protruding) and a really good machinist square should be all you need to verify (or not) perpendicularity. After all, you work with wood, and this isn't a milling machine!
Great in-depth insightful perspective and info on this. You're correct in all respects! I encourage everyone, myself included, to weigh these observations and adjust/adapt according to the accuracy tolerances you're working to.
Thanks for watching and adding valuable commentary on this one!
Best,
Matt
Now that I know you have a link to Acme here, I'll be checking in through that
nice machine....
Good video Matt. I’ve had the same drill press for a few years and really like it. I have 2 drill presses and if I ever replace my other one I will get another Powermatic or get one of the Nova full size drill presses.
And I have several Powermatic tools (including the same jointer you have) and have never had a problem with any of them…
Ron
Thanks for sharing a good report Ron. I'm getting a lot more feedback like yours where it's "wow that's too bad you had that problem" which makes me thankful people aren't saying "well that's Powermatic for you!"
I didn't get a call back right away Tuesday after the 4th of July but after an email and phone call they're sending me a new potentiometer and circuit board to cover the bases for whichever one of those is at fault.
It would be easy to get upset that there's a problem with a $3,000 drill press but I'm not that kind of person. These kinds of things happen and if they happen to me and Powermatic addresses the problem I've got no issue with it because I appreciate the design investment they put into creating new equipment like this which is far superior to any previous machines in this category IMHO.
I'll be doing a short follow-up video at some point after the whole thing is resolved...
Best, Matt
A Powermatic needed for a power nap 😊
Good luck Matt with the resolution to your issue
Great detail Matt! It's hard to replace some of the old iron with new technology, but this looks like a worthy upgrade!
Never had a 'software problem' with the old iron but man, I gotta tell you, the variable speed thing is working intermittently and I LOVE the performance of this upgrade. I'll be glad to fill you in on details if you're tempted to pull the trigger on one. The robust/accurate depth stop alone justifies the whole endeavor. Improved work light, table adjustment features, power, smooth operation... yeah, totally worth it. I've already modified/adapted the setup for sacrificial inserts so that's sweet but the fence? Not so much. Probably going to go with a Mag Fence or maybe customized version of the stock one. I can totally see you loving this for prototyping and low-volume mass production that's not worth CNCing. More later but feel free to reach out for more info if you're interested...
@@NextLevelCarpentry I'm not surprised to hear you've got a sacrificial throat plate cooking up. When I saw the bed for it; that was the first thing I figured you'd tackle... I have been eyeballing this exact machine, but I am 100% out of room in my shop. I'm working on acquiring a piece of property that can support an out building so I can expand my operation a bit. When I do that, I'll definitely have a PM drill press on my shopping list.
@@GregsGarage problem is that after you get that 'out building' I'll be jealous and have to start figuring out how to get one of those when all you need to do is add the drillpress 😥😁😂😎
@@NextLevelCarpentry LOL. There's always "just one more thing" we all need!
@@GregsGarage So that's not just me then?😂
Like the garage door -
Wish you lots of luck with your new drill press. Bummer it did not work correctly out of the box. One suggestion, since it has an electronic controller in it, the unit is more susceptible to power line surge damage than a simple induction motor. A good surge suppressor is highly recommended, almost mandatory. I have one on my nova drill press.
the "Or a lemon..." in the title got me to watch right away what I would have watched ~eventually~, if you're keeping track of what works for you in titles and thumbnails. kudos as always for the ridiculous amount of information and insight you pack into a video, and for the depiction not just of how to go about a specific task, but how to think about problem solving and task management in ways that are widely applicable.
I hesitated to use that thumbnail during a video where I introduce ACME Tools but thought it was a real world situation that would benefit a real world audience. Hope it plays OK over time without generating accusations of 'click bait' or insincerity as an affiliate of ACME.
Glad you liked the video too!
Best,
Matt
I wholeheartedly agree, Acme tools is awesome! That’s where I got my anvil and rocket powered roller skates ! Lol let’s see how many of you are old enough to get the joke :)lol
#BEEPBEEP if you get the joke🤣🤣
@@NextLevelCarpentry lol, enjoy the new drill press Matt, you work hard and deserve nice stuff!
Great video ! For some reason I thought ACME only shipped anvils. 😉
That's funny!!🤣🤣
I think there were some explosives involved along with the anvils! Lol
I enjoyed the unboxing and setup almost as much as if I were doing it myself.
What a shame about the variable speed though. But as you said, you will get it resolved in time.
At some point I will have to replace my little cheapo 8" drill press (it's the first drill press I have ever owned or used), but I can't afford Powermatic so I will drool over yours instead 😊.
Unfortunately Acme Tools does not allow purchases via international credit cards, even for shipments within the continental US.
Ah well, I guess they only want US based customers.
Amazon saves the day!
Been there… done that
Did you find a road runner in the box since it came from Acme Tools?🤣🛫
No... but I did see a flattened Wylie Coyote on the underside of the pallet though!
@@NextLevelCarpentry Thats good Matt! I really enjoy your videos! 😀🛫
Little Me has pretty good balance. He confidently stood on the column in the box without a single wobble.
Mini Me learned a thing or two about fancy footwork from a certain Flat-Out dude back in the day but have yet to master the technique wearing shoes so worn my toes stick out or balancing my full weight on a Jolly Rancher made of quartz! 🤣🤣😎
@@NextLevelCarpentry hahahaha
Celebrate Independence. Be happy and share your happiness with someone.
thanks for your reply ,
i thought what you said was right. Tony Sorisio
Matt, as usual your video was excellent. Powermatic machine, not so much. The variable speed is a big deal on any drill press. With the amount of money you paid for it, inexcusable. I don't care how great the customer service is, there shouldn't be a thing wrong when you get the press. Quality control at the factory seems to be a bit on the short side. I've been looking at upgrading to a floor model and like the gear driven model(s) over the belt. I believe I'll take a closer look at the Nova. Both have a major and rather large price tag , but the convenience and power of gear driven has intrigued me.
I built custom homes for the major part of my career (along with some larger commercial work) so I'm used to having top quality tools either on the job site or in the shop. It seems to me that Powermatic (along with a few other "name" brands) have dropped the ball. A couple of other brand names have popped up lately, Harvey for one and South Bend another that might be looked at. Both have been around for quite awhile in other areas than construction or home shops. I'm glad I caught this video, the speed control is a BIG RED FLAG (for me anyhow). No excuse on that major feature.
P.S.
I'm retired now (that's a lie!) I'm married so I work! I get, as so many other so-called retired guys "now that you have time on your hands, you can build......... for me! So off I go building outdoor furniture, an outdoor entertainment center and along with these, a outdoor cooking/ Bar-B-Que area so far! :) Please keep up with the non-bias videos. I've covered just about all the bases as far as a complete home shop but I'm lacking a lathe. Still trying to justify the cost. Could you possibly do a video on a lathe comparison? You seem to have a way with words that sinks in, at least to me.
Thanks again!
Thanks for watching and commenting Bruce.
I understand your reaction and position towards Powermatic but I'll caution you about ruling out the Powermatic based on that meaningful but actually minor problem. I say that based on feedback from other viewers and other RUclipsrs who have the same drill press but have never experienced the problem and actually love the machine as I do despite the faulty speed control.
Somewhere Out There is a person who had some initial problem with A nova drill press which could well elicit the same reaction so I would recommend considering the features of both machines aligned with your intended use and make a decision that way rather than one based on a knee-jerk reaction from a faulty control. If there were other systemic problems with the machine it would sway my decision but because the problem is so isolated and fixable I've no regrets whatever about dealing with it.
When I do a follow-up video you will learn that the problem has kind of fixed itself so I suspect a loose wire rather than a catastrophic failure of the control or printed circuit board. Powermatic is sending me a new control and a circuit board in case one of them ends up being at fault and when I dig into it I will learn if a loose wire is the culprit or something erratic in the switch or circuit board. Here again this doesn't really trouble me because I've made a number of parts using the drill press when the speed control is working and it is so smooth powerful and user friendly I have no regrets whatever for the purchase even with the speed control issue.
I'll be curious to hear what drill press you end up buying.
As far as the lathe is concerned I have near zero experience with them and have never owned one so although I would really like to give you some feedback I'm the wrong person for the job.
I don't have a recommendation for a RUclipsr doing lathe work either but I'm certain there's more than a few out there.
Best,
Matt
Wow, you had a drill press and this was nearly 3 grand!!! I think a milling machine with DRO would have complimented your older drill press, but that's just me. 😬
I had a feeling you slept in your shop. But, I thought you'd sleep on the table saw table. I look forward to the follow up video. I can't imagine having to put that thing back in the box and send it back and I hope that's not what you have to do.
Much more comfortable to curl up in the corner of a big box... preferably one with some nice cushy packing material😴😴 Happy to report that the fix was the simple control knob, much easier to swap out than disassembling and returning the whole thing! ruclips.net/video/0vnTkHTk1OA/видео.html
Best,
Matt
PS I know you saw the follow up video already but added the link here in case other viewers read this comment thread...
Mini me mode? I hope your half hour twice a month sessions with Dr. Wilson are going just fine. (And he's taking good notes). Great review.
So... who IS 'user990077'? Must be someone familiar to have insider knowledge of Dr Rog! 🤔😎
Do you have a recommendation for an accessory that would make a drill press mobile? I have a small shop and would like any heavy piece of gear to be easy to move. Benches saws drill presses planers lathes are all on wheels in my shop. Some of the mobility is hom engineered and built. Some is commercial solutions. I'm curious to know what you,d recommend for a heavy drill press like your new powermatic. Thanks.
Wow, it is completely inexcusable that a near $3000 tool would have such a blatant defect. I used to think that Powermatic was the creme de la creme of shop tools, but I no longer feel this way.
Wonder if it's just some factory gunk in the encoder or knob that needed to get shook out...
What would it take for Powermatic to add a lifting eye to the head?
What solvent do you use Matt to clean up the steel? Thx
I buy the solvent used in mechanic shops for cleaning engine parts from a bulk petroleum distributor. You might be able to get something similar at an auto parts store but DON'T use anything harsh like brake cleaner. Lacquer thinner might be too 'hot' for the paint but regular mineral spirits type paint thinner would probably work too.
How to clean silicone caulk residue off soft material. Cannot use metal tools without cutting or scratching, Thanks , Tony S
There's no way I'm aware of for removing silicone caulk other than mechanical means like scraping Tony... sorry. Silicone's great stuff... until it's not!
Best,
Matt
We call unexplained phenomena “Mr. Mendel.” Clearly, Mr. Mendel visited. Glad you exorcised him from the machine.
That's heavy metal!
Such a shame you have to go through the disclaimer rigmarole but, I get it.
I'm not even buying a drill press but, am still gonna watch..
Happy Independence Day and to the trolls I salute 🖕
Edit 1:
I now see a use for those large handled hex keys. I also hate every hex key set I ever see and subsequently don't buy. They all seem to have crap bulky storage.
If anybody has recommendations on a set that is manageable in metric and imperial do tell. Right now I'm dealing with a bunch in a paint can. Luckily Festool has them onboard or in the case secured with most of their tools.
Edit 2: Do you sell those push sticks you make? I don't have time to be making tools and some jigs so I buy them. I'd rather give you the money than ________.
Edit:3 Thanks for not shilling for the manufacturer and leaving in your issue after all that effort.
Excellent presentation
I don't know what tools you have, but driving to the store or post office also takes time. A jig can be as easy as taking an existing push stick and some screws. Combine it with a flush trim bit on a router and there's your jig :) Though for the hook or heel part you probably also need a saw, to get the 90 degree angle.
That said, I don't always make my own bobs and bits either :P
The new machine is definitely nicer in features but I have a hard time believing it is sturdier than the Delta.
I know what you mean and overall it's kind of a give and take where some features on the Delta are sturdier and some on the Powermatic will likely prove to be.
The Delta's primary drive pulley is a diecast piece of junk that I had trouble with from the get-go until I recently gave it an over the top rebuild. The table raising and lowering mechanism is also inferior to the Powermatic.
That said I never once had an issue adjusting the analog speed control on the Delta where I have problems with the digital chip on day one with the Powermatic so there's that🤓
Time will be the judge...
Best,
Matt
CRAP!!! I had this drill press purchased for the machine shop and had no idea it came in PARTS! How in the hell am I going to get that head on the column all by myself and without a skyhook? Had I known, I would not have purchased it.
It looks like you at least had fun with editing.
Not sure if 'fun' is the right word but trying a bit of off-the-wall scripting and editing helps make video production a bit more challenging and interesting. 😎
@@NextLevelCarpentry you enjoy the challenge. That’s is the fun part for you.
I did something similar with a Delta drill press years ago. At first I thought it was a great drill press but now the quill has so much play it is hard to drill an accurate hole even for woodworking. The Morse taper #2 is a limiting factor for metal work. Everyone uses it but if you try to drill in metal with a bit larger than 5/8” it will slip. Of course Delta doesn’t claim it will so I really can’t complain about that. If you drive past the Delta factory here in Tennessee it now says Delta Faucets. No longer made in USA. Not the quality I want.
Hey Louis,
The main problem I had with my Delta was a setscrew on an adjustable die-cast drive pulley cracked the casting (no real surprise) so it always stalled out when drilling large holes in low range and low RPM. I only recently dug deep enough to fix it for good because I was motivated by not wanting to sell a compromised machine to a friend. Wish I'd known the real cause of the problem years earlier though. Neither Delta or Powermatic are the quality they built their reputation on IMHO but at least Powermatic still has substantial tools available, albeit foreign made.
Best,
Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry Your not wanting to sell a compromised machine speaks better for you than the machinery manufacturers.
@@louisshambarger2230 I'd sooner take it in for scrap metal than sell to a friend only to have it fail.
You know you're in trouble when you go to ereplacementparts.com and the part you need is no longer available because everyone who ever owned the drillpress needed the same part for the same reason: under-designed and too weak. 😥 I ended up with a real McGuyver of a fix involving JB Weld epoxy and a ring made from a piece of 2" copper pipe, of all things.
What does the gasket that you added improve or achieve?
I was wondering the same.
Kind of an old-school OCD thing, I guess? It would make up for any surface irregularities and keep extreme ones (which I'm not saying there are any) from causing a cast iron 'ear' to break off when bolts are tightened (that's the old school part of me).
The OCD part is in imagining that the tool gets exposed to water or moisture somewhere in its life where the gasket would prevent column and base from fusing together from rust? Yeah, OCD for sure but, hey, that's me🤓
I don't expect others to make a gasket or imply that anyone who doesn't take that extra measure isn't diligent about tool assembly but think a few might extrapolate quick gasket-making methods for use when they're actually necessary...
Best,
Matt
I personally would not have replaced the drill press - old world mechanical things just keep working with new bearings.
Yeah, and there was nothing wrong with those old rotary dial phones either, right? 😉😁
Is there a Check Engine light?
Wouldn't THAT be sweet?! 🤣🤣
Congrats on your new purchase. You might want to consider upgrading the fence to a Mag-Tool Drill Press Fence Pro. So much better then the stock fence. Here is a link to another youtuber who also did this upgrade: ruclips.net/video/DeEDQrmlEJA/видео.html
I bought five heaved duty shapers from them and all the spindles were very sloppy. They replaced all of them, no problem, with just a telephone call. Of course they shouldn't have been that sloppy to start with.
19:15 I think most of the sounds came from your back.
Oh sure, He never discloses if he is affiliated with the coyote or the roadrunner.
Full disclosure: this video was produced in cooperation with Looney Tunes... no real surprise, right? Mbeep Mbeep!
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Matt
@@NextLevelCarpentry Good thing it wasn't the coyote or the roof would have came down when you pulled on the chain. :p
@@lucidmoses I TOTALLY missed a golden opportunity by not thinking of the ACME/coyote/lifting/dropping heavy things... darn!! Would have been so fun do demonstrate the hoist by lifting a styrofoam anvil and dropping it or something? 🥴
FYI The more reviewers try to convince me they are totally unbiased the more they usually are in my experience.
In my experience I suspect that your head is about to explode🤣😜
I'm just jealous that you have such a nice thick head of hair.
You have to love new technology until it does not work.. So much for quality control before it leaves the factory.. We always want the new and exciting features to make your life easier but there is something to say about having a reliable manual backup for when that circuit board decides not to work. I'm sure they will work out the details but they should be embarrassed for letting that go into a customers hands...
I'm not understanding why a gasket was used between the base plate and column. Gaskets are to seal, there's nothing that needs sealed here. The machined surfaces touching would help the bolts stay in place. The gasket will break down over time and the bolts will loosen. I just don't understand, I'm not telling you what to do. Very informative video though.
Sounds like my generic use of the term "gasket" has thrown you off.
9It's true that "there's nothing that needs (to be) sealed" but gaskets are able to seal because they're slightly compress-able. Compress-ability allows gasket material to compensate for slight variations in non-compressible steel surfaces. This assures a 'perfect' fit between two less than perfect machined surfaces like the drillpress's column and base plate. FWIW the gasket material will not "break down over time", especially in a shop environment, unless you're referring to geologic or galactic time😉. Proof of that reality can be found by taking apart and old tractor that's been out in harsh weather for decades: metal might be rusty but head gaskets and the like will be in near perfect condition...
1:20 "Massive" Yikes, I'll say.
To many electronic gizmos in everything including cars nowadays. What a nightmare.
Not a nightmare, really, but definitely a different paradigm with its own pros, cons and learning curve...
One of the worst purchases of my life... I hope yours works better than ours!
Wow, no kidding?
Care to elaborate?
Reviews similar to yours for the belt drive variable speed model Powermatic came out with a few years back kept me from buying one of those but I've yet to come across a meaningful negative review that was a deal-breaker for my decision to buy this machine.
@@NextLevelCarpentry Some parts were replaced more than once. This included the keyless chuck and the tapered clutch assembly and many other related parts. The speed readout continues to malfunction. Everything has taken centuries to diagnose and get replacement parts. Nothing to do with the pandemic as all parts were in stock. Bolted to the floor but still a bit wobbly. The table is quite thin. The fence is absolutely useless and feels like it was bought from aliexpress or something. Overall the thing is heavy but feels cheap and unbalanced. There are a few other things wrong too but that is a whole other story!
Anyways. I hope you get some good production out of yours. Keep up the great work. Your skills and attention to detail are appreciated more than you can imagine!~
14:40 no skyhook video link
Thanks for letting me know... I think I had the timestamp wrong but it should be working now:
ruclips.net/video/eIH8fKKDhuU/видео.html
if you click the little "i" icon in the upper right corner of the screen at 14:30
Best,
Matt
Oops! just a bad dream,or was it?Nah,just go back to sleep.🥱
Good video