Ford Fusion Very Small EVAP Leak P0456
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- In this video I have a look at a 2012 Ford Fusion that is throwing a code P0456 Very Small EVAP Leak. We know one thing for sure it is not the gas cap because it doesn't have one!? Orrrr is it.... -Enjoy!
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Growing up I had a capless filler neck. Usually just stuffed a rag in it. Didn't realize I was ahead of my time!
A rag in place of the cap?? We refer to those as fuses, or Molotov cocktails!! :)
LOL at both ya'll comments, I always kept caps that worked...........
HA! Brought back memories, Robert! People would always ask me why I had a rag sticking out from behind my rear license plate on the ol' '85 Monte Carlo.😂
Molotov cocktail? His name was Vyacheslav Molotov, or "Hammer", he was the Soviet Minister of Foreign Affairs (1939-1949), not a nice guy. In 1939-1940 the gracious Soviet Union invaded Finland. During the Soviet invasion invasion Molotov claimed the Soviet Union was not dropping bombs on Finland, but merely airlifting food to starving Finns. The Finns were not starving, and they dubbed the Soviet cluster bombs "Molotov's bread basket." The Finns also named the improvised incendiary device that they used to counter Soviet tanks, commonly known as the Molotov cocktail, "a drink to go with the food." Thank you Comrade Molotov!
In 1942 Molotov started and headed the Soviet atomic bomb building program in competition with the Manhattan Project. We have Comrade Molotov to thank for the beginnings of Soviet nuclear weapons and that darling Cold War.
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Damn Eric, you took advantage of her car
I had to smoke a cigarette, after this one!!
@@gilbertfranklin1537 at least he used lube. Lol
@@roadkill5333 LMAO
@@roadkill5333 I can't look at my car in the same fashion anymore when I fill it up with fuel
Damn right he did
I love how you try and save your customers some money whenever possible! A rare honest and compassionate mechanic these days!
6:38 After that poking Eric gave the old Fusion, no wonder it feels the need to smoke. lol
LOL~~~ bye bye PG
Well, he did say it was his nickname in high school.
😂😂😂
I worked for ford as a tech from 2001-2016 and thought the cap less system was totally not needed! Have had a ton of issues with those necks!! Then 2 years ago I purchased a 2015 f150 that has a cap less neck and I hate to admit that I actually really like it
Aside from cleaning and replacing the filler neck have you come across any diy gasket or plugs to help seal the system? My 09 F150 P0442. Thanks for any feedback.
@@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt hey brother in my experience your code p0442 could be caused by multiple things inside of your evap system, cleaning the cap less neck is just the most common and least expensive thing to attack first unfortunately if that didn’t solve the issue the next step is to have the system smoke tested to determine where your leak is, there are other components that fail in that system but any of those would just be a guess on my part. Hope this helps you.
@@notchback93 thanks so much for replying. Gonna do as you suggest abs smoke test…make sense as it will save me money and time.
Pro-tip: To prevent this on ALL Ford vehicles equipped with the Capless fuel filler work the gas pump filler gun in and out a few times after you fill up, this will clear any debris holding the door open. Also use compressed air or canned air if you don't have a compressor to blow out the entrance to the filler once every few months or when you wash your car. I have a 2012 Fusion and have never had an EVAP issue with it.
The cap-less gas tank, the answer to a question no one is asking.
My Renault has one and I like it. Every time I drive a “normal” one (such as on my partners Alfa Romeo) the cap seems very old fashioned and fiddly...
The Renault design is more of an actual flap and can’t get crap in it like that ....
It’s like the concept of turning a cap and pulling it out was too hard for people to understand
On the contrary...it did answer the question of "...what else can we over engineer so we still seem useful to justify our paychecks...."
lets design it so as the tank vacuum increases, the seal is less likely to seal.. CMON MAN! : )
Seriously lol
Gas cap's missing. That's your problem lady.
Love your humour Eric - The One Handed Wonder, that's what they used to call me in High School. Quality. Thanks for another great video.
As he proceeds to ram that funnel into the car repeatedly. Surprised he didn't use two fingers while he was at it.
I think the real solution to this is replacing the filler neck with one that comes with a screw on cap.
Also my suggestion.
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I don’t even watch for repairs anymore. I’m just here for Eric O’s one liners. Comedy gold. 😂
I am VERY disappointed that a Ford Fusion runs on gasoline rather than deuterium.
False advertising.
It would only work with 1.21jigawatz!!
You must've been thinking of the Ford Fission. Understandable.
@@thebeetalls Nah, the Fission runs on Plutonium or U235
failed fusion? :))
A hunerd years ago I use to have a box on top of the gas pump with all the gas caps for all the caps I found ON TOP OF THE PUMP! It was like take a penny, leave a penny system in the corner store.
That capless fuel system ranks right up there with the sealed transmission ( no dipstick ).
YAAASS!! I looked for HOURS in my car for the dipstick to my transmission fluid... I never found it.
I love it when the smoke machine fires up.
At my office job today....customer walks in at 6:40 and hears “oh baby”. I pressed that pause button so fast....
customer says " what the h%ll you watching"
@@jaredstrehlein5605 South Main Auto. Lol....That is what I'm watching.
"Watching this guy give a car the dildoing of its life."
Busted!
Can’t wait for Ford’s Hoodless Engine System in 2020.
G JACKSON I've been reading in the trade magazines about a wheel-less tire for 2021.
The motorless Automobile is where it’s at…the future is almost here..
My wife used to loose the gas cap ALL THE TIME. So I started buying every gas cap off every Volvo redblock that came through the junkyard...12 gas caps and many years later she hasn't lost a single one.
my Skoda has o noose tied to the fill neck and cap
Love that discussion with the customer, and the way you offer explanation and choice. Some professionals seem to tick the box with the highest cost, in the self interest of fewer callbacks.
Nothing like Funnel Banging the car for a fix! good job Eric.
Ah, South Main Auto, come for the automotive expertise, stay for the commentary. Another great video, thanks Eric!
We'd love to see the new lift when it's installed.
You know it's coming back. Even in Southern Cal, the guys where I used to work replaced them.
I like temperary fix.
Those 20 Amp battery maintainers are a nice addition to your tool box. I enjoyed the video.
Great video. I own a 2012 Ford Fusion SEL andnd I purchased a fuel plug and it helps keep the fuel port clean. Also, when washing the car it helps to wash the area inside fuel door which helps to cut down on dirt accumulation.
You were having too much fun with that emergency funnel!!
I have a diesel with a cap-less fuel filler. I found and purchased a fuel cap.
Ford has a new design for the cap less system and also make sure the spring for the fuel door is keeping the door shut tight. Great videos.
"It's already 7 yo" :D I wish I get such "old" car ;)
Good job Eric as always :)
Marcin Wojciechowski its new england. Cars are lucky to make it 10 yrs. they rot and are entirely shot from poor roads
This comment has nothing to do with this video. My sons 2003 Silverado 277K miles would not start. I found your video "Chevy truck no start no crank" it is amazing how many things can cause the problem. For some reason it was intermittent. After watching your video, we new exactly step by step what to check for correct issue and since it was the starter, exactly how to change it. Thank you so much for your videos! I subscribed! Respectfully, Kevin
Wow jiggle fix good job! I loved this tip thanks! Great Job as always take care.
Fordtechmakuloco is the master of Fords. Brian has excellent content
Best of the best.
Oh yeah, probably my favorite channel to watch. Sad he doesnt upload content often
master is excessive ego swelling, but "good and great" is fitting! as for many others that want to do said work and learn/teach!
I already miss the gas filler cap. When I first started driving they were metal and not attached with a cord. You had to remember to put it back on when finished. NAPA sold a lot of caps. :)
Had an old '74 Honda Civic like that, with a filler door. Stopped for gas on a road trip and put the cap on the rear bumper trim panel. Filled up, closed the door and moved on. 350 miles later stopped for gas again, and uh-oh - no gas cap behind the filler door. However it was still sitting on the bumper trim panel. Somehow it stayed there without falling off for 350 miles.
Mr. O says that the 2010 Fusion will be in the crusher at 14 years...I have a 2012 Fusion and hope I can get 14+ years out of it. I love this car and want it to last as long as possible!!
Coffee and a SMA upload...great way to start my day!...Wiggling the jiggly bits on a ford...not a sponsor. I think I can hear the ocean!...lol
I’m really enjoying this channel since I subscribed. You are a excellent mechanic and diagnostician!
Danny Rumbles you won’t be disappointed! Eric is a master mechanic and a even better human!
It’s not a salt belt thing. Fixed my wife’s the same way and it’s been in Texas it’s whole life. I used a screwdriver to hold it open and clean/condition the rubber with silicone spray. Then hit with the funnel like you did. There’s an anti theft cap for these to seal off dirt, but you can also use a ford ranger upper tube with a cap and adapt it to the car.
I know you said boring video but it helps a lot of us out because evap. Leaks are common so testing different components is nice to see .
Great vidjeo. I'd like to see a filler neck replacement too.
I want to see that too 👍🏼
I have a Buick Envision, 2018, with this kind of fuel filler gizmo, so I will be sure to keep and ear to the filler neck opening and listen for noise leaks - VERY informative video, I learned something very valuable today, from the imaginary "" Rust Belt "" Avoca, NY area, South Main Auto garage - Thanks, Eric !!!!!!
Can't agree with you more on the capless system. In a perfectly clean world they'd probably be fine but the world ain't clean.
Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the guffaw!
That's what they called me in high school! 😂
I had the same exact problem a couple of years ago and carried it to the Ford dealer they ended up replacing the filler neck and after that it was fine. I was told those things are notorious for going bad.
Excellent video Dr.0
Love the jokes as always. SHAMOKE IT. I think you got over excited with the emergency funnel. Almost got a Triple XXX rating from Siskel and Ebert. 😲😲
I thought it was "the mystery goo in the trunk" that tipped the censors.
Yesssss! A video of the lift install would be cool to see, as some else mentioned on here. Great video though, didn't think those seals would rejuvenate themselves with a little spray of fluid film, WD-40 etc.👍🏼
I have been putting up with this issue since I bought by 2012 Fusion used in early 2013. Got a scan tool just for clearing the check engine light. It's the only reason my light has come on every few months. I know it's the EVAP leak because the light sets as soon as you turn the key and the engine runs fine. Load up on WD-40 and keep the filler area clean.
Eric,
Great fix and video. And great explanation/logic of why its only a temporary fix - I agree with your reasoning 100 percent.
SMA#1
God bless
Paul
The explanation was good. For my car I know what my fix would be :)
I clean mine every couple of months or so. a can or carb cleaner, and that nozzle thing same way you did. then a little silicone lube spray... just to keep the seal soft..
love it. got one of those dopey capless fillers on my jeep grand cher-Rockee and what a pain. it had broken at 75K miles. nuts!
"Hello, my name is Brandon and I'm addicted to SMA." Yeah, I'm an addict.... Great job again Mr. O!
Another fine job Eric! Bet that car was happy going home 👍😂😂
Happy ending. Lol.
Due to arthritis, my hands lost the ability to remove the fuel cap and some vehicles (Ram 1500) I can’t get my hand to the cap, so the capless fuel system is a god send. I live in Florida and I have not noticed any debris build up. Eric, thank you for sharing with me that there are videos that show how to maintain the capless system.
It's been 5 years I hope you are well. If the arthritis is still a problem, please look up "hyperbaric oxygen therapy" AND arthritis. Sometimes the acronym HBOT is used. There have been amazing studies and testimonials of reversals of chronic illnesses like arthritis, stroke symptoms), severe infection, and even cancer. Just from the administration of oxygen under pressure (like sea divers use to avoid 'the bends') .
Insurance covers it for or some conditions, but if not, it's usually about $100-$150 per session. Or you can appeal to your insurance company to cover it for your condition.
Also, a teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water once or twice a day - on an empty stomach, an hour or two before or after meals (so it doesn't interfere with digestion) does amazing things for arthritis. It calms the inflammation, which causes pain.
You'll have to research these on your own. They are generally not directly taught in medical schools, because the low cost of therapy means there is no one to sponsor multiple studies, advertising, pharmaceutical reps and educators. There's no blame to most doctors, just an explanation of why most will not be aware of this and some will be wary.
God's blessings on you.
Great tips I think the spring is weak newer Ford Fusion have a fuel door actuator that is failure prone
Strange thing is Ford makes a fuel cap as an accessory for the capless system 🤨
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The real ez-fuel system went away in the 1960s. You drove into the service station, rolled down your window, said "ten regular", and you got gas, the windows cleaned, water and oil checked, and tires topped up if needed. Then you paid $3.20 and left. Never had to deal with a gas cap at all.
It didn't go away, in Oregon amd New Jersey no self serve gas.
""one handed wonder..... that's what they used to call me in high-school"" I whizzed a bit when I heard that :))))
I was told that capless filler necks are to reduce fuel vapors escaping to the atmosphere when refueling. Every time you take the cap off or remove the filler nozzle the vapors escape. With this design the vapors are captured by the gas pump nozzle and it seals quicker when you remove the nozzle. I assume that all filler necks will eventually use this design. Hopefully manufacturers improve the design!
Sorry we didn't come over to your town to eat up all your icecream. But we did go to Letchworth Park and the wineries of Lake Seneca, and Ithica. And we've been spending time at Watkins Glen race track. And a few dozen went to Niagara to see the falls. We leave tomorrow to go to the Seneca Army Depot for an Autocross event and then disperse. We did make the 11pm news though for our car show in Corning. 131 cars.
My Focus 2002 ZX3 manual had a similar code.Friend with dealer level scanner/50 yrs. experience diagnosed it. Went to yard got used Purge Valve for $11 fixed !
Geeez... went a bit crazy with the reaming! 😂😂😂
Little reaming, little lubrication fixes almost everything. ... or at least makes some things happier. Lol.
Good diag process as usual. Gotta love modified concepts... the old style gas caps must be too good of engineering, not enough failures or money being made. 😂😂
old ones fail as much but a cap is less expensive heh
@@dinobot_maximize yeah, less than $10 in most cases. I see customers try that all the time when they get a CEL or Service Engine Soon light... Lol. Never is the cap then.... 😂😂
Thanks for another great video, it’s too bad all makes of vehicles have “ common” problems. I think the engineer that designed the cap less fuel filler system immediately received a promotion.
Cup of coffee and a new SMA video. Fine start to the morning.
Don’t leave us hanging like that what lift you buy Eric? 🧐
I remember when the cap was part of the fuel door. This was on the 68 Dodge Charger If it was my car I would just replace the complicated one with a regular gas cap. From a older model
Knowing the manufacturers there is probably some kind of sensor or something that ties the filler neck with that car and you would never be able to drive it without the stupid capless neck...lol
Good video, short but interesting. I cannot imagine your daily routine, Family Guy, Top notch Mechanic and Business owner to name a few. I appreciate the video's and applaud your demeanor, humor and the true learning experience that you provide,
Buy Mrs. O some Roses,....she is a Big part of who You are!
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My car actually threw the same code a few days ago. (this is not an advertisement but) I bought the Blue Driver ODB scanner to see what the code was. Yes, it was the Evap code (slow leak). Spoke to my Mechanic, he told me most likely this is a fuel cap issue (no my car is not fuelless, or capless ;-)) he told me he could take it in and smoke it just like you did. I did exactly what this video did, I used some wd 40 to clean the fuel cap seal and cleared the code, and no problem. Even though this repair did cost me 90 bucks (the cost of the ODB scanner) I really feel it was a good investment in my tool kit. Lemur is the Canadian company that updates the android app/database for vehicles. Maybe the South Main Channel could purchase one of these and see how they compare to the professional scanners. This scan tool felt pretty professional to me ... but then what do I know.. To take from a great mechanic on line, the South Main Channel "Remember if I can do it, so can you"
Filler neck job is a pain without a lift. Thanks Eric for the vid, just might save alot of work.
No not location related. Just had to do the same with Daughter's Tarsus in NC. Fixed the problem and the Check Engine Light cleared up. Dealership wanted $600 to replace the filler neck. For that, I will clean the filler every few months as necessary. NOT one of FORD's better ideas (as is the elimination of spare tires).
This was a fun one, keep it up man. Love the videos.
I’ve had my doubts about those cap less fuel filler systems every since they started using them... Glad to see how to do a quick fix/clean on them
Cap less fuel tank hum maybe it's time make a cork to fit. I guess the E check wouldn't even know since they don't need to check the cap. I'm going to assume other mechanics would just quote for a new filler neck and continue their burn on those unaware. Nice to know there's still good people out here. Thanks for the knowledge.
Same problem for the same car. It should have been a recall (one of many) for this model. Tried the one handed method, and it worked - until next time you got gas. I replaced all 4 feet of the fuel filler neck, since you can't just replace the flap assembly. Later models had an exterior door flap that closed with magnets and kept the dirt out (you are right about this being a N. E. geographical problem). Now find a 2012 Fusion with intermittent air conditioning PROBLEM (blows hot as a heater, and then it's fine). Fix Or Repair Daily.
I have a 2010 Ford Fusion and you may have saved me a lot of money. I'll sond something even of it doesn't work.
Great to be back in class this morning! Thanks.
Is there a way to convert it back to a gas cap? Man I hate the way cars are going.
If I were Mrs. O, I'd be terrified after watching you do that. . . . . 😲
Good morning Eric. I'm glad to hear you say this is only temporary. There are to many hacks out there that would call this success. Keep up with the cool video's !
Watch all your videos, good stuff, lately you have been saying crusher, you know there's a lot of 20yr old cars out there that get driven to the grocery store once a week that behave just fine and not going to the crusher any time soon so take that word out of your vocabulary, I learn a lot watching your videos, thank you
I think you uploaded this video to the wrong site Eric 😂
re-lol
I went under my fuel door release lever in the car and found lots of corrosion from my boots. Gas and brake lines go through there. Fluid film!
That gives a new definition of showing it some love😁😁😁
I think if I was plagued woth this issue, I might make a small dist cap to cover the filler, or perhaps male a soft foam gasket to seal the gas door.
Curious how the DIY cap/foam gasket worked out? I know it’s been 2 years since commenting but i’m experiencing this issue on my 09 f150. Certainly welcoming any ideas you have come across until the repair. Thank you
@@Sheeeeeeeeeeeeiiitt I didn't have to fix this problem, but my thinking is/was if you can take steps to occlude dirt and other crud, from causing the problem any issue caused by the crud won't come back.
That vaping joke was hilarious
Dawg, you seem to enjoy that emergency filler funnel a bit too much... lol. Love your videos!
Thank goodness you didn't have a gross leak. Those are just disgusting. Kinda like what you found in the rear. Keep on keeping on
Purge solenoids are incredibly common on these 2.5s (and alot of newer Fords mostly the 3.5 and 3.7 ) too, I thought for sure you'd end up finding it to be sticking open.
lol nice touch with the easy fuel funnel with all that smoke
Look here "one handed wonder", the way you were working that funnel made me think I was watching videos from an entirely different website. I seriously laughed out loud several times. Good to know though considering we have a capless filler neck in our household, and it's not mine.
I first saw this Capless Fuel Filler on a Ford Escape that I rented. Good idea for those who can't remember to replace the cap and close the door after filling. I wonder if it helps prevent people from driving away with the nozzle in the filler? Oh well.... can't have everything. Just remember the old saying..... "Anything designed to make something Idiot Proof, will produce a better idiot!" At least it can create new problems. Consider for example a "Skinless Banana"..... very convenient, not having to struggle pealing it before eating, and it is a new taste adventure at the beach.
The new Power Supply looks fantastic.
Had a surging under light load.....friend diagnosed it....went to yard got $10 DPFE fixed ! Got a new 5-speed shifter knob while I was there for $1.79 Mine had the shift emblem missing.
The most annoying thing about modern cars is the engine lights reporting ‘non problems’ in the first place. In the old days this would have gone unnoticed, unfixed and caused no problems to anyone including the lady’s cheque book. What next, a flashing dash light telling you the paint is flaking off the colour coded door mirrors. I’m pretty sure you have better things to do as a mechanic than spray WD40 on sticky filler hinges. Love your channel though Eric, we don’t get enough of this sort of stuff in the United Kingdom. Watching you and listening to your accent is better than the movies.
You just made every Subaru STi owner jealous of your vape clouds. Next mod these guys will do to their cars will be a smoke machine inside.
What better way to educate myself while also laughing my ass off! 👏👏👏👍👍👍
I've always been skeptical of those stupid caps...
I wonder if someone makes a "replacement" with a cap? Dorman :)
Great Video
I’d like a discussion (lecture) on scan tools. I’ve noticed a Snap On and a Bosch then there is the laptop. Some jobs use a smaller scan tool then there is a host of other digital wonders that are used under the hood.
All that said, let take it a bit at a time, I’d like to start with scan tools knowing why each is chosen for which job or why one is better than another.
Thanks for your time and interesting topics.
Clark
First time I saw that filler neck was on my son's Mustang. I had two thoughts at the time: first was WTF? second was why "fix" something that as far as I know, NO ONE has ever complained about...and then also take out the spare and replace it with an air canister, but that is a separate rant.
Man you were hammering that focus! Lol..
It's like watchin' Bob Ross, relaxing but also more informative.
Any chance you could do little whiteboard job explaining this EVAP system thingy.
Be good to understand what you were adjusting with the scan tool and what that actually relates to physically in the system.
Another good info video Eric O.. I agree what a garbage design. What will they think of next. Maybe we don't want to know. Thanks Eric. 👍👍👍
Next up you'll have to call the EPA a month in advance of refueling your car for them to send you a hazmat kit that you have to park your vehicle in prior to refueling and then have the EPA come out and verify that no liquids were released into the atmosphere while you were refueling before you can move your car. This will cost you $1,000 per fill-up
Don’t give them any ideas 😂🤣