Ep. 15 Evans Hydraulic Drumheads
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- *This is not a paid advertisement but rather a response to some common misconceptions and commentary found in various drum forums. For those that just want to hear the audio demonstration, that's at 5:39 **
Oil filled drumheads? Many of us are probably familiar with the Hydraulic series of drumheads from Evans, imagining the sounds of fat, tubby 70's rock toms. Contrary to popular believe, these heads do have some tone, albeit quite controlled, and a bit of sustain when tuned appropriately.
In a time when aftermarket muffling devices are more popular than ever, it's actually surprising to see that more people haven't dabbled in Hydraulic drumheads to achieve similar sounds more easily and consistently. In this episode, we demo each of the various colors of Hydraulic drumheads from Evans on the snare drum and toms, discuss tuning schemes, and bust a couple myths.
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Have you tried Evans Hydraulics? Which color(s)?
I actually have a Evans Hydraulic on my floor tom, it´s a clear one
I use the blue ones on my toms. Love the sound and durability as I am very heavy handed.
Red and it sounds great
I used the Blue heads on everything including the kick drum and it was awesome but i prefer coated Ambassadors or emperors on toms and snare and a PS3 black dot on the kick. They make great kick drum reso heads.
I frequently use single head toms and kick on my gigging kits and on those I always run clear hydraulics.
I only play drumheads filled with spanish olive oil
Nothing but Italian olive oil for us! ;)
Sounds Like A Drum so re-labeled spanish oil?
I like my oil like I like my women
Extra virgin
I find that the Spanish olive oil filled ones are pretty mellow and blend in well, whereas the Italian filled ones have more of a bite and stand out.
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That ride cymbal makes me uncomfortable
Interesting. It makes me feel comfortable.
It is literally looking directly at you
@@glam432 he's just standing there. Menacingly.
Me too... it's like a big buzz saw blade....ready to chop and slice..
I actually really like them on smaller drums to give the perception of more low end. People think they don't sustain must not be tuning them right or have bad edges, because they always seem to sustain for me.
This commmet was from 4 years ago, but 1000% agree. These sustain for a long time for me. Lmao I was confused nat a friend the other weak saying these have little sustain.
been rockin the black heads for decades on my champagne sparkle 1965 Rogers kit. sounds good man.
I run my premier club kit in sparkle with reds, definitely a head urner
me too on my Rogers 1980's series XP8 kit. Sounds great to my ears.
I love how daru Jones and Robert sput searight utilize these thanks for the video guys!
Right?! Definitely a cool approach and a super unique sound. Thanks for watching!
As a kid growing up in the late 70s early 80s, the Evans hydraulics were the rage. I still love and play them today. They were the only head for concert toms.
I'd love to see an in-depth discussion about Hydraulics on the resonant side, with different combos on the batter. Neil Peart did this on his drums on the Rush albums Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures.
Exactly what I'm here for. Love your drum covers by the way 👍
I think you would have the same result with a thicker drumhead like a pinstripe. Never tried but I guess it would kill the volume and sustain of your drums since they can't resonate properly and are extremely chocked.
I’m running hydraulics batter and remo pinstripes reso. Sounds great playing in a small room
@@lovecraftmusic8717 Neil would crank the tuning on his toms, which combined with the extremely dead tom sound, gave a really distinctive tone to his toms. It was almost timbale like. Not to mention he played as hard as he could while using the butt end of an oak 747 stick, which is a really dark and actually quite a heavy stick.
Evans no longer produces the Looking Glass head. The only close contender is a clear G2 or a clear Emperor. There was a forum claiming by some Evans users that the G2's aren't that close. Especially since the Looking Glass heads were made of a flesh looking resin for the hoop, and a fellow drummer even mentioned that drumhead technologies at the time weren't precise in tuning.
5:35 for demo
Well, these heads actually do sound better than a cardboard box!
We almost recommended that Evans use that as the marketing slogan but decided against it. 😉
Raymond Ebert not by much though!
I cannot lie…that cardboard box didn't sound as bad as I thought it was going to. I bet someone clever could sample it and do something interesting.
@@SoundsLikeADrum Why is everybody so against these heads? I for one, swear by these heads! THIS is the sound of legendary Rock & Roll of the late '60's thru the '80's. It's like soup & sandwich, or, peanut butter & jelly.......just don't forget the JAM.......You gots to spread it on till it "Sounds Like a Drum!!!!!
@@billdrummer1197 cuz in my honest opinion there too dead sounding.
6:55 Cardboard box, for reference 😂
I LOVE the Hydraulics Drum Heads. I tried different heads including the EC2 heads. But for some reason I prefer the Hydraulics heads way better than the other heads. I probably will stick to them for a very long time.
I recently became the worship director at a church and realized that the drums were overdue for some loving. I heard these were easy to tune and were premuffled so I threw them on.
They were SO easy to tune that they actually revealed that the snare side hoop was way out if round. Once I replaced that, the snare (with the Hydraulic Glass which I know is blasphemy) pops and cracks through the mix while still being nice and round. It’s just a really satisfying tone and the FEEL is incredible.
Thanks for the videos guys! They’ve helped this electric guitarist learn how to make our church kit sound better!
“And uh toch ove oliv oil”
Got a black heads on my power toms, 12,13,16 Vintage 80's Tama Swingstar, plus one piece of moon gel on each tom.
Love it sounds super fat, but I'm only playing in a small garage so everything in this review make a sense for me.
Thanks for great review.
I feel like I just watched Neil deGrasse Tyson talk about these heads. Nice.
Ha! You just made my day with that one. Thanks for watching. I often wonder how far people want to go down the rabbit hole when it comes to drumhead design and the physics behind this stuff. If it’s interesting though maybe we’ll do more of it. Cheers! -Ben
Sounds Like A Drum Dig as far down as possible. For example does the drum shell simply “allow” the head to unleash its potential? As important the many aspects of proper drum shell design are......we aren’t “hearing” the shell but the head. What are the physics of the sound we hear once the head is struck? What is the shell doing to the vibration of the head. Why does a thinner shell project less and have less volume than a thicker shell? These are the fundamentals most people are clueless about. I have a practical grasp but could never convey in words what’s ACTUALLY happening.
Wow, I'm very impressed with the quality and depth of this review. Great job man!
Thanks so much! This is the level we want to work at. We'll likely be doing other product overviews (not really a traditional "review" as this industry has done them) in the near future. If you have any special requests, let us know. Also, feel free to let the manufacturers know that you're enjoying what we're producing. Cheers!
Thanks for the lessons, I don't play anything but understanding what equipment does helps me appreciate players/bands I've dismissed in the past
I use reds on the toms and a black on the snare and I love them. The visual appeal on a black sparkle kit is a very nice added benefit!!!
Holy smokes...when you brought physics into this, this just became my favourite channel. Thankyou for the great content!
Thanks so much! More to come. Cheers! -Ben
Evans Hydraulic heads were originally designed for Zickos acrylic drums, another company located in Kansas, as was the original Evans Corp. They were mounted top AND bottom, and design to draw a BIG, round tone out of the otherwise brash acrylic shells, and it worked beautifully.
Great video! I’ve used these since the mid 80’s and love them. They’re very versatile and sound better than most people give them credit for.
Thanks for the in depth review. Youse guys are great.
Glad to hear that the heads are working out well for you and thanks for the kind words! Did you ever get a chance to play the original Red Hydraulics?
Sounds Like A Drum I played the blue ones in the 80’s and currently have the red ones on the kit.
You were spot on about how the red just seems to have a better tuning range. From wrinkle to tight, they just get the job done.
I have a 22 diameter by 20 deep Gretsch “cannon kick” that uses 0 internal muffling thanks to these. The attack and boom is unreal, but it dies right away.
None of the drums on my kit need Moon Gels or Drum Dots as the oil takes care of any overtones.
They’re just perfect.
I look forward to your next video.❤️
Very cool! Glad you're enjoying the red versions as well. That kick drum sounds like quite the beast! Gotta use one monster of a beater on that thing. Thanks for your support!
i have red hydraulics on toms tuned low and i love them
I love the tones on the heads I was playing them yesterday
Good Day. I used these type of drum heads back in the early 1970's. Worked fine for me. Best Regards
Put these on my Ludwig Vistalite set. AWESOME! Much better than the old black dots!! More control sound. Love them.
Neil Peart used these as resonant heads (with double ply clear batter heads) in the 70s and early 80s (Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures), apparently. I’m not sure if drummers back in the day used them as either resos or batters, like shown here.
SOURCE: Andrew Olson’s Neil Peart drum kit website
Neil actually used them as batters too in some cases. I've seen photos of him playing the blue ones and the original red ones. He's definitely one of the players that helped popularize them.
Paulson I bought them back in the day because I saw Neil’s kit with them on.
They are harder to play on,less rebound than normal heads and don’t ring much so I went quickly back to pinstripes at the time now on Evans heads.
Which color of Hydraulics were you playing on back then? Which model(s) of heads are you playing now?
Sounds Like A Drum I used blue ,they were really dead but the drums I used them on Tama Imperialstar with trad drum depths didn’t probably do the heads justice.
Paulson I love his drum tone in permanent waves! Especially in free will and spirit of the radio (my favorite two Rush songs)
I have a red hydraulic bass drum head,and I love it. In fact,all my batter heads are Evan's.
Evans has got thee market on buying drum heads down to the science, what evens heads would you reccommend for a kick drum as I am presently using a remo pinstripe batter head on a pearl export series 24x12 I am in persuit in a solid thumping sound kick drum.
Think I’m going to give these a shot on my Tama B/B’s? I really liked the lower tones of these heads in the video. Great job guys!
Great video! Just curious how you like the Hydraulic compared to the EMAD on a 16” converted tom/bass drum. Thanks!
Remo Pinstripes actually do have some sort of agent applied in between the two plies. Not sure if it's oil like the hydraulics. Great video as always!
Yes, Pinstripes were inspired by the Hydraulic series and feature an epoxy between the plies that provides a similar effect, though to a lesser degree- which some people certainly prefer since they're a bit more lively. Of course, the Pinstripe then inspired the EC2. Thanks for watching!
Sounds Like A Drum Great video and review! Pinstripes actually have an adhesive around the edge (it may be around where the pinstripe is) and that adds a bit to the muffling. But the spots that look like oil are just like you said. They're refracting the light. Thanks again for the in-depth review. And love your Pearl drums.
Roger Anglin there is no oil in a pin. I have deconstructed many plied heads in my youth. The only thing pins have a little bit of glue along the edges
I’ve been using Remo Pinstripes clear for over 15 yrs. Why? Because I love that bouncy sound. Not so flat sounded. Do you guys think the Evans Hydraulics are better?? I’ve been eyeing the red hydraulics
I'm not sure about when this video was made but for at least the last several years all Hydraulics are 2 plies of 7 mil regardless of color. There's no construction differences between the different colored heads.
For a period of time D’Addario had incorrect information published in the product descriptions. We can’t verify if that’s the case now but there has absolutely been a difference in material, not to mention the thickness of film.
Best explanation and demo of hydros ever.
I played these at a small local festival back in 2012, and the tone and feel has always stuck with me. Now I'm about to buy my first kit in nine years I'm going to immediately outfit it with these
i have a five piece Pearl export series kit and I was just brainstorming ideas to cushion the bearing edge of each of my toms,what would the kit sound like with a light wrap of Saran Wrap on each bearing edge? I usually play remo pinstripes on my racks or evans clear with NO striping as I love the sound of Evans heads.
What do you think of the Evens Hydraulic drum head Clear
I’ve used these since the 80’s and love them. As I play live a lot, they work great for mic’d drums as the guitars and vocals will steal any and all tom resonance you spent all afternoon tuning for.
These are great for quick attack and quick decay. Perfect for live. Also, you don’t need any Moongels or Drum Dots as the oil kills all the ring you’d normally get.
They tune very easily and will outlast most other 2 play heads. Just don’t break one unless you like oil everywhere.😂😂
More attack than a pinstripe? I love pinstripes on snare but hate them on toms because of their lack of attack imo.
Great explination, Thank you. I'm on the fence with this one... been using pinstripes for almost 23 years and recently switched to Evans G2 coated. I like em alot but I am missing some of the beefy low end tone I has with the pinstripes. I wonder if these would give me the low end I am missing.
These actually don’t sound extremely bad. I was expecting a cardboard box sound. But, the floor tom sounds like a cannon!
They have longer duration don't they? For moderate use how long they're expected to keep good tone? i've got the red ones, but i find they a little too dry, specially for my 14 x 5,5 snare, which doen't sound too good in low tunning
Great overview. Been playing Evans hydraulic heads for over 20 years. They're currently on the 12, 13, 14, 16, and 18" power toms on my original 1986 Tama Superstar drumset. Massive fundamental tone from the hydraulics, and they last a very long time compared to all other heads (almost 2 1/2 years since last head change!}. I play with fat Corpmaster drumsticks and hit rimshots on toms, and these heads take the pounding and rarely detune. I upgraded all the batter hoops to diecast and the tuning stability is excellent.
Love the detailed explanation.
Thanks, Sheldon!
“Great for a kit with not great bearing edges” also read, any vistalite kit manufactured in the 1970’s. I have owned over 100 vistalite tons and kicks through the past several years and have yet to find one that resembles anything decent. The Evans hydraulic heads are perfect for these unruly bearing edges.
I had the blues on my square badge 70s drums. I played them all wide open and they rang like rototoms. Very boingy sounding. They really brought out the Gretsch Jasper colors. Of course I tend to hit hard. I was very pleased with the set up.
Nice video, thanks for sharing about these. Yesterday at music store they showed/demonstrated clear hydraulic, except had black ring. Is that for more controlled sound like a built-in studio ring?
Are you sure that they weren’t EC2S? Hydraulic heads don’t come with any sort of built in ring.
I've had clear and blue. If you are after a muted, fat, wet attack they work great.
I've been using hydraulic heads since I got my first set as a teenager .. I've tried other heads and always returned to my trusted hydraulics
Definitely a classic! That's very cool that you've had a long running relationship with them. Which color is go-to?
Do you notice a difference in sound with the different colours?
I've really loved hydraulics, and have been touting against the rage that exists for this particular head. I made a short video on RUclips talking about how you can get amazing resonance from a hydraulic at higher tensions, and or made an amazing snare head on shallow drums.
Always been one of my favorites, possible to get insane amounts of sustain at certain tunings, but with such a super strong fundamental.
Using the black hydraulics and loving them. Will get one for the kick drum soon, only using them on the toms and floor toms for the time being.
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Are the different color options actually constructed differently? I thought it was literally just a different color film and not a different construction which is how it sounds the way he describes it
I wondered about this too. Nothing on the evans site page says anything about the sound being different between the colors.
Glass version are double ply 6.5 each, red and blue are 7 each one but no idea about the black
I don't have any idea of how these are gonna work in other drumkits, but in my pearl vision birch the bass drums went beyond anything I've tried before!! Tons and tons of attack, low end and the right amount of resonance, I can't go wrong with toms for sure!
I just tested these out because I wanted to emulate the 70's/80's concert tom sound for my band's recording session. Actually found that they gave the tom a lot more sustain with the resos off than a regular batter head would, but that could just be because the old pinstripes I had on there before were already beat up and dead. I love the deep boomy sound they give off. I'll definitely try them with the resos on next, and might be keeping them for the long haul.
I have a Mapex Saturn toms 10,12 & 14" Ft ( 2 inner plys of walnut, 2 outer plys of maple) and love their tone . My band plays 60's and a bit of 70's,right now I'm using pinstripes but was thinking of switch to the hydraulics for their fatter sound and their dampening . What are your thoughts on this ??
Sounds like a solid idea to me, they're definitely gonna focus the sound more and provide a bit fatter of a tone (personal opinion but I've definitely spent lots of time with both). I find the tuning range of the Hydraulics to be pretty wide too so you may get to find some other pitch ranges you dig with a little experimentation too. Good luck! - Cody
what heads and techniques would you recommend for doing exactly the opposite; maximizing harmonics/resonances/ring to get a 90s alt-metal "clang" snare sound? currently i'm using single ply coated heads cranked as tight as possible on a piccolo snare, but it just isn't quite getting me as extreme as i'd like.
for reference of my goals, have a listen to the song "snot" by the band "snot"
it's surprisingly hard to find info on this because the sound is very much not in fashion right now (as evidenced from people's reaction to St. Anger)
I love we could hear an A/B with a card board box... juuuuust to make sure. :D
Watch the full video for the comparison. It’s in there...
Oh i know, I was commenting that i'm GLAD it was in there! hah
Random question. Is it bad to detune drums once they've been tuned? Example, say I get a new head, tune it, and maybe a week down the road, say I fully detune it to where im starting over from finger tight, is that going to make them perform any different or is that bad? I dont mean with just hydraulics either but any heads?
Hey there! The short answer is no, not really. If you're going from very high to very low extremes in different playing contexts, eventually the head will lose its tone from all the up and down, but it's not something you need to worry about very much. We change tunings all the time, and as long as you're playing them often, the heads will wear out from that much sooner :)
If detuneing a new head has an advearse effect , then you either have a defective head or that drum could be out of round.
These used to be my go to heads when I started to play drums due to how easy it was to tune them. Now I use evans uv1 heads
I wish I had seen this video 2 weeks ago.
I bought a new set of remo black suedes (with clear ambassadors on bottom) in hopes that it would give a warmer tone.
I played in a small church that had brick walls and wooden floors... (you've already assumed the scenario)... extremely loud even with plastic brushes.
Oil filled heads would've been much quieter and warmer.
I brought along a Blackrolite tuned medium with tight reso...and a cheap steel snare tuned tight... I should've brought my 14x7 maple, or my 14x6.5 mahogany, because the metal snares were way too crisp.
Hope my experience helps someone in a future similar situation.
Stagg DH series cymbals served well. Easy to control, and sounded great with short sustain.
JasonWelchMusic I’m about to go from black suedes over coated ambassadors to the hydraulics because I mainly still play while practicing at home, so small area as well. The suedes on my toms and a black x emperor on my snare has treated me well for nearly 7-1/2 months now. They’re at the point that they need replacing, but not so much that I still can’t get tone. Also I would’ve gone with coated reso heads to warm up your tone and shorten sustain as well. So far the suedes and black x over the coated ambassadors haven’t put out too much resonance and sustain and I’ve been able to reign in my floor tom’s vibrations that it was putting out all with minimal dampening. I’m using just a Pearl Maple Decade with 10, 12 and 16 and - 14x5.5. Sounds good on mics or just down the hall as long as you’re tuned up well. So have some faith in the suedes until you’re ready to change em. And for being extremely thick heads, they can get very sensitive depending on the tuning. Good luck. Hope it all works out and you have fun.
awesome video!! really helpfull
I had a roommate way back when who tried them. As a guitar player, I loved them. He didn't. I especially liked them tuned low. I love that sound.
Such a classic drum sound! How did you happen to come across our channel or are you a drum enthusiast?
I'm just another cheesy dime a dozen guitar player. But, depending on what's going on in front, I find myself watching the drummer the most at shows. I think drummers make or break a band and a good sounding ride cymbal goes a long way. Your video showed up in my recommendations and when I saw "Hydraulic Drumheads" I had to click. Yeah, that cardboard box sound is so rock and roll.
Great video!! I used Evans Hydraulics decades ago but never knew some of the things you talked about!! Thanks!! I feel smarter already!! 😊
What would you recommend as a reso head with these hydrolics?
Hey! Could you guys possibly do a video on drum heads, and if it’s just a myth that reusing or un tensioning a drum head fully is bad at all? Like I obv know you can reuse a drum head and it will work, but I have this fear/ocd about it. I think it’s from hearing “ when you seat a head and tension it, it cracks the glue”, and you only get the one shot. Or stuff like that. I needed to ask, because honestly my fear of re using it un tensioning a head fully is out of hand to the point I’ve thrown out perfectly good heads. Thanks !!! I really want to try these Hydraulics on a recording!!!
They're the best bass drum batter heads i've ever tried.
We’ll have to do a demo of those in the future as well!
I totally agree
Have you heard the spanish double snare drums? Very very dry sound with very high tension on the heads. Some people use those oil heads for "extra drynes". And I say spanish drum because I have not seen them out of Spain. If you want to hear one you should put something like " Tambor de doble bordon" Or "caja Arahal". Very nice video, I find your explanations very useful!
That box sounded pretty good though for a box
Well tuned. We’re not just gonna use any old box around here...
How long do these typically last opposed to non hydraulic heads? For my church
Their lifespan is pretty typical for what you'd expect out of other two-ply heads.
I used to use the black hydraulics on a late-eighties Pearl Export kit. Sounded like playing on a red rubber playground ball, especially after they had some wear on them. At the time, the boxy sound was in, but it was more out of desperation due to the crap Exports being very difficult to get a decent tune out of. I eventually settled on pinstripes as the best compromise. I can't imagine using a head that is so dead ever again. I'm surprised they still make the hydraulics.
What did you think of the sound here? Would it surprise you to know that they’re used all the time in very popular recordings?
@@SoundsLikeADrum honestly, a little surprised. I guess it's easier than tape. I don't really care for that sound, but it wasn't too bad. More tone than i thought there would be.
Holy shit, you got it right.
That’s coming from a physics major who also plays drums.
Haha, thanks. May not have been a physics major but Evans Drumheads was my full time work for 6 1/2 years. Cheers!
Harmonics and Newton’s second law in play.
Definitely respect that you learned and kept that knowledge.
Take care.
I’ve used clear Evans hydraulics on my Tama Rockstar toms with black resos for years. Genera dry and hazy 300 on the matching snare and Genera batter with a large center port black reso on the bass drum works for me.
What resonant heads pair well with hydraulic heads?
@SoundsLikeADrum Did you use the hydraulics only on top or also on the bottom side?
Batter side only. Reso’s were G1 clear. Cheers! -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum Thanks!
I like the Gretsch snare behind you
I love these heads! They are the easiest heads I've ever worked with. They're incredibly easy to tune. I like deep thuddy toms, and these give me that exact sound. The only thing I dont like the lack of volume. They dont project well. It sucks when I'm playing smaller rooms where the sound tech doesn't want to mic the toms because my beats where i use toms a lot are lost in the mix. Otherwise these are absolutely perfect.
I've heard.. bubbles cause problems. Frost coating... higher tension seems like a great band name
Great dissertation of this product.Thanx
I have these on my inexpensive drumset. After changing the resonant heads and tuning the set sounds killer. My musician friends want to borrow my set due to the sound. Micing is important.
I have the Hydraulic black coated on my snare cranked up. I love it.
What’s your opinion on drum heads for big toms I play a 4 piece kit 12 inch and 16 inch Tom
Well this is a 10/12/16 set of toms here so that might help inform the decision making process. It all depends on the sound you’re looking for. In that range, you could use any head and get a great sound. Choice in heads depends on the context though.
Only Evans still have the Hydraulic patent drum heads? Thanks a lot.
The concept of the Hydraulic drumheads isn’t patented. There was a small overseas drumhead brand that was making two-ply heads with oil in between. Not sure if they’re still in business.
It’s so annoying I like the red sound but I HATE the look😑 why can’t you choose different colours on the same head
I used them as resonant heads in the 80's because I thought they looked cool on my blue kit.
I'm having trouble tuning the Remos Silentstroke with stock reso head. Although Silentstroke purposely use for silent practice, as a user u still want to get a good sound from it. Right? Even low volume cymbal u can have a different choices of sound from different type of the low volume cymbal. It would be great if you guys can share some tips and tricks on this topic.
We'll likely do a video on all things mesh heads in the future. Thanks!
At my guitarist's house, he's got a house kit fitted with Red Hydraulics the floor tom has an incredible low grumble sound!
What reso heads are you using on your toms
Actually I think controlled sound. You can aim your drum at any single tone with these heads. So the resonance goes bye bye but you can add sustain and reso with the reso head and by mixing it in. So a great exact tone that you can beat the hell out of and they record great.
Now that the Red is back in the Hydraulic line, where do they fall in the range of most-open to most-damped? Does it now go [most open] Red - Clear - Black - Blue [most-damped]?
This is subjective, but I would tend to agree with you regarding the most open to most muffled/controlled response. The red and clear versions are my favorites for high toms and the black sounds excellent on a floor tom. I really dig the blue on the snare. -Ben
Thanks guys. I mightn't use them ,but up till now I've never understood how they work, what they sound like and their best applications. I also like it when you actually give your opinion ie I think the red ones work best ( or words similar!) Once again good stuff. I always look forward to your postings.
Glad to hear it, Bruce! Always fun to learn something new. Cheers!
So informative, thank you 💙
I recently bought a drum with a fairly scuffed bearing edge. Could you do a video on tuning with a bad bearing edge.
We did a bit of that here: Identifying Bearing Edge Issues | Season Two, Episode 42 ruclips.net/video/OcR-AU_tw3Q/видео.html
I currently have Red hydraulics (coated one on snare) over genera resos (10mil) and emad reso for my Pearl Decade Maple 5.5x14, 22x18, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16.
The range is actually quite impressive.
I also agree that these would be great for a recording session, but I think you’re underselling the projection a little.
Maybe it’s just my combo, but I have just extreme attack and a good amount of projection, but still very little sustain, which was something I wanted anyway.
IMO, they produce far more sounds than their boxy reputation gives them credit for.
I can make my floor toms sound like a bebop kit or like bellowing thunder.
Btw, unless you crank em, the oil kinda makes it feel ‘pillowy’ in a way when you hit em without losing rebound.
i use Evans Hydrualic (clear) on my set and love them
THE MATHEW SANTORO OF DRUMS. Great video! Thanks.
Ha! Thanks for that.
So he’s a plagiarist
They have a good sound, and all-mo-ost as good as my REMO White Center Spots.
I would use them, but they ONLY come in the standard sizes.
Does it comes with ceasar salad and bread 🍞?
These seem cool! I'll have to give these a try soon
I actually ordered these today!
I have a 12" snare that needs to be fattened up. I'm currently using a Remo coated Emperor. I can't decide between the Aquarian Force 10 (2 plies of 10 mil film) or one of these. Do these sound deeper than an Emperor? They're about the same thickness, except for the oil.
Juan Waffles Jackson Yes. I have a mahogany shelled Gretsch snare with the clear hydraulic and it’s fatter than you can imagine.
No need for Moon Gels or other types of muffling gear either.
It’s perfect.
I'd recommend starting out with Ep. 6 in our series to follow our recommendations for tuning to achieve a deep, fat sound. The snare side and wires are just as integral to these sound, so be sure to dial them in as well. Keep in mind that if your drumhead is already dead, this might not work well. The Hydraulic is definitely an option worth checking out if you're still not quite satisfied. The Force 10 is significantly thicker and may be able to provide a lower pitch due to the added mass but might be a bit unruly with overtones.
Actually Remo Ebony Pinstripes sound like a cardboard box. I have a set that seems to be made of 2 10 mil plies minimum. They are so dead sounding when they’re tapped. They made my old Tama set sound like a bunch of buckets. I took them off after 2 or 3 practice sessions.