I'm a big fan of Syr Carah so when I saw her getting piloted, it immediately got my attention. My version really focusses on Dragons Approach but its really interesting to see other approaches (get it?)
That Tergrid turn was insane. Really felt like he threw the game by not taking Ouphe and trying to Peer. He was so ahead he could just slowly grind the board no?
@@RLKC8 so? he passed without winning so why strip yourself of the only means of interaction you can probably have, being monoblack and the no blue pod.
Counterbalance, void winnower, and then the kraken sealed the fate of the game. In Cedh (and all high powered formats) counterbalance has a great chance of hitting. Void winnower stopping half of all cards from being cast by opponents, and then the kraken pseudo countering things! His board looked like he was playing regular EDH ! Amazing. This is why alex is def my fav of the channel
That Syr Carah deck may be the coolest thing I've seen since that Eight and a Half Tails game with Charles! This was WILD from start to finish. Keep up the great work, PWP!
Alex actually played Sultai because this is what the banner's statement is all about. Power to dominate, cruelty to rule. Bouncing Ad Nauseam back to the hand was the absolute unnecessary, but pure savage overkill. Very nice games!
Wouldnt Korvold stay in play because of the hexproof clause of veil? Really like the content and would have loved to play in the tournament but promised to play in the team NRG event that weekend
You guys didn't provide the correct decklist, at least for selvala. The opening hand said the London Mulligan was Genesis Wave and I looked at the decklist. There isn't one in the list.
Is Wishclaw talisman supposed to stay on the battlefield when it switches controllers in response to the sacrifice trigger? I would've assumed it would be sacrificed after the controller changes.
It does stay. The trigger derives from the object, but the trigger belongs to the player. When they don't control the object anymore, they are no longer able to sacrifice it. Simply put, you cannot sacrifice other players' permanents.
The tergrid list in the description doesn't have lili of the veil in it, would love to see the actual list. Suspect it's very close but probably several tech choices for cedh. I have a tergrid deck of my own and after once overing Alex's list i looked at the trinisphere in my binder and quietly decided i'm not that mean.
Not that it probably matters since he was gonna win anyways, but chad would have exiled 26 cards from Syr Carah's triggers on grapeshot since they were all a sorcery he controlled.
When Chad cast flusterstorm on the decisive denial, would counterbalance counter the first fluster and then the copy would just resolve and still counter the spell?
First game was absolute perfection lol, but that second game was disgustingly good and bad 😅 is there anyway to get the decklist for Chad's tvesh/thrasios ? The link isn't any good just error 403 🙁
Yeah he would get 1 card per copy, but I think they just skipped over it because it really didn't matter. At that point he had plenty of mana and tons of cards to turn into an aetherflux victory or any other win con in his deck
it was cast for (1) U + the X for 2, so CMC is 3 on the stack. Whilst in hand, gy and everywhere else the X is assumed as 0, so then its CMC is indeed 1.
Once the entire turn cycle ended with the tergrid still in the table, her player shoulded gone for the slow grind rather than strong combo. His board alone was enough to win via resources, and at that point, he was Archenemy, with really high HP all around. He had to play control.
How does grapeshot interact with syr carrah? They are all separate instances of damage, so wouldn't he exile the rest of his deck when he killed Nick. Doesn't impact this game, but just want to know the rules here
@@trveheimer6360 Exactly. Also, I love Jetmir but he does not belong at a cEDH table. He just doesn't bring enough value to warrant him as the commander. Especially if you're trying to play Naya.
@@trveheimer6360 If you can find tournaments where he won then I'll gladly change stance. And looking over this decklist, it just doesn't seem like it can keep up nor can it interact much. It's creature based and unless he is somehow slamming down 3 creatures a turn, this Jetmir deck will always be behind even with stax pieces out. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how Jetmir can compete effectively and consistently to make him the commander in a cEDH deck.
@@charlesmaillho367 i didnt look at this specific decklist and i was wrong, it didnt win but take the semifinals of Ka0s 3. ComedIanMTG made a video about it. i personally didnt play this but tymna kamaahl beats and its proficient if you mulligan for early stax pieces, my playgroup which is 100% cedh regularly got shot off and i won some random spelltable games too. jetmir is better insofar that the beats start to roll out quicker. for as long as white and green is color identity, it can even compete with green free interation, and ranger captains and silences. its aeons and aeons better suited for cedh than tegrid.
Goooddd question. So my thought here. Do I have a dauthi becaus I don’t think I’m gonna have an early tergrid, or do I exile dauthi to help and early tergrid followed by Lili.
First game was incredible, loved seeing the win from 1 life. Game two was just another boring Thoacle win, could have been better…though Kinan was pretty cool.
i really dislike the dynamics tergrid creates. people made so many snappy comments about krarkashima but i think a lot of the criticism on that deck apply here, at least in a competetive environment. the tokens are impossible to recognize via spelltable, the outcomes are just always random complicated and as we saw people forget regularly some stuff is even there, its also just banking on getting random value due to being monoblack and (afaik) not having an enginge and wincon like k'rrik. im cool with playing fringe decks but this is testing me
Great games but I need to ask , the second game the decks are not of the same power level , alex deck is far more crazy . Do you guys do a rule zero talk ahead of the games ?
So what's the point of a bunch of Cis guys posting their pronouns? I see this trend on commander RUclips videos a lot more frequently these days. I feel like especially on videos where all you see are people's hands it'd kinda irrelevant.
@@kristopherwatts9466 This hasn't been an issue before throughout human history. It's you people making it an issue. You can call it inclusiveness, but by making a stink about it, you've actually turned a percentage of the population who are not "cis" into a minority, or even worse, a product. But hey, that's what the big wigs in the Democrat and Republican want, division between people. We don't care about pronouns, that's why we don''t want to see them. You care about pronouns.
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Storming to win from 1 life while facing that Tergrid board was GLORIOUS!
Cool, now I don't even need to watch the game. Wtf.
@@adamwright4482 thats why you don't read comments...
@@adamwright4482 why would you read the comments before you watch the games, people are obviously going to be talking about them.
@@adamwright4482 did you expect the comments to not be commenting on the content of the video they are under?
Guys, you tap the video on the mobile app and this comment ist showcased right below the video, shining at you :/.
First game was absolutely awesome! That Peer steal was nuts 😂
I'm a big fan of Syr Carah so when I saw her getting piloted, it immediately got my attention. My version really focusses on Dragons Approach but its really interesting to see other approaches
(get it?)
*Groan* Take your thumbs up and go.
That Tergrid turn was insane. Really felt like he threw the game by not taking Ouphe and trying to Peer. He was so ahead he could just slowly grind the board no?
Ouphe wouldn’t have stopped the treasonous ogre from taking his peer
Most of his mana was artifact mana so he wouldn’t have been able to cast it/wouldn’t have been able to do anything afterwards with ouphe on the board
the real crime was the too early popped ranger captain.
@@trveheimer6360 how do? The only other time would be in response to his own memory jar, which is in effect the same thing
@@RLKC8 so? he passed without winning so why strip yourself of the only means of interaction you can probably have, being monoblack and the no blue pod.
I like seeing when y'all play different commanders in your pod when someone wins like 2 minutes. Looking forward to see more!
That deflecting swat was so good. God I love that card.
Counterbalance, void winnower, and then the kraken sealed the fate of the game. In Cedh (and all high powered formats) counterbalance has a great chance of hitting. Void winnower stopping half of all cards from being cast by opponents, and then the kraken pseudo countering things! His board looked like he was playing regular EDH ! Amazing. This is why alex is def my fav of the channel
That Syr Carah deck may be the coolest thing I've seen since that Eight and a Half Tails game with Charles! This was WILD from start to finish. Keep up the great work, PWP!
Love to see less partner decks played here! That Syr Carah win was spicy.
That Tergrid turn was sick.
Alex actually played Sultai because this is what the banner's statement is all about.
Power to dominate, cruelty to rule.
Bouncing Ad Nauseam back to the hand was the absolute unnecessary, but pure savage overkill.
Very nice games!
Damn, that syr carah turn was sick!
Peer into the Abyss is a very good card, but the Target Player part is critical to whether or not it goes in your favor.
This channel constantly shows the power of counterbalance. It’s an insane card and warps the board of any game I see it in.
in a format where decks have average mana costs of 1.5, counterbalance is amazing, outside of cedh, its pretty much worthless
can't stop flusterstorm though...
My god, that first match was glorious! Mono red has that unique ability of winning from nothing.
"I fear no man.
But that thing..."
>This is a Simic stax deck<
"it scares me."
EXPLOSIVE Tergrid and syr Carah turns holy crap!
Omg that memory jar play was nice! Then Chad says hold my beer !!!! Awesome.
So crazy, Tergrid soo evil, and watching yhe Syr deck go off, I really want to build it!! Noone in my playgroup plays mono re storm, seems fun!!
Jetmir Hatebears sounds like alot of fun!! Especially since Jetmir itself can be a finisher
yes, thats the idea! lots of pressure
Bruh. I think I’m in love with chad’s red deck🥰
Nick has the best playmat ever. As a Rem fan, I love it.
Wouldnt Korvold stay in play because of the hexproof clause of veil?
Really like the content and would have loved to play in the tournament but promised to play in the team NRG event that weekend
Props on the commentary in game 1.
Man that first game was not the way I thought it was going to go .
You guys didn't provide the correct decklist, at least for selvala. The opening hand said the London Mulligan was Genesis Wave and I looked at the decklist. There isn't one in the list.
Is Wishclaw talisman supposed to stay on the battlefield when it switches controllers in response to the sacrifice trigger? I would've assumed it would be sacrificed after the controller changes.
It does stay. The trigger derives from the object, but the trigger belongs to the player. When they don't control the object anymore, they are no longer able to sacrifice it. Simply put, you cannot sacrifice other players' permanents.
Second game even crazier, never seen simic stax before very cool!!
The tergrid list in the description doesn't have lili of the veil in it, would love to see the actual list. Suspect it's very close but probably several tech choices for cedh.
I have a tergrid deck of my own and after once overing Alex's list i looked at the trinisphere in my binder and quietly decided i'm not that mean.
Not that it probably matters since he was gonna win anyways, but chad would have exiled 26 cards from Syr Carah's triggers on grapeshot since they were all a sorcery he controlled.
That first game was WILD
damn that game 1 is superrrr
Tergrid should be forbidden in spelltable matches lol
It's definitely brutal.
That first match was epic!
Deadeye-ing your Oracle is both something I thought I'd never see, and a hilarious way to do something which is normally boring.
So, yeah, props.
dread from it, run from it, deflecting swat does work all the same! awesome games!
When Chad cast flusterstorm on the decisive denial, would counterbalance counter the first fluster and then the copy would just resolve and still counter the spell?
Only the first. That's the thing about storm (and that card in particular). It's extremely powerful because of stuff like this.
@@PlayingWithPowerMTG That was my thought process but just wanted to be sure. Still glad my boy Kinnan got the W. Great games as always y'all!
What's the idea behind phasing out kinnan and these the turn that happened
Tergrid might be the only commander on the same level of "friends hate you for playing it" as Merieke Ri Berit.
That first game was fantastic. Almost makes me want to play mono red. Almost.......
I love Alex' decks. Very good job!
First game was absolute perfection lol, but that second game was disgustingly good and bad 😅 is there anyway to get the decklist for Chad's tvesh/thrasios ? The link isn't any good just error 403 🙁
8:39 how does sure carah work with storm? I thought/assumed he would exile 1 card per copy, but it's narrated like he gets only 1?
Yeah he would get 1 card per copy, but I think they just skipped over it because it really didn't matter. At that point he had plenty of mana and tons of cards to turn into an aetherflux victory or any other win con in his deck
@@mckfencer that much is true, just got a bit confused by narration
At 14:15, wouldnt March have a cmc of 1 and therefore be countered by the counterbalance revealing Carpet of Flowers?
it was cast for (1) U + the X for 2, so CMC is 3 on the stack.
Whilst in hand, gy and everywhere else the X is assumed as 0, so then its CMC is indeed 1.
Once the entire turn cycle ended with the tergrid still in the table, her player shoulded gone for the slow grind rather than strong combo. His board alone was enough to win via resources, and at that point, he was Archenemy, with really high HP all around. He had to play control.
I'll be competing for the oona deck list 😎
Love seeing Alex pilot Kinnan.
That Syr Carah win made me so happy!
Storming off at 1 life, gotta respect it.
Can't allow seedborn muse to stick, otherwise... that happens
2nd gsme, Korvold shouldn't have bounced because of veil giving hexproof from blue. Wouldn't have changed the outcome, but little thing
Mono red win was nasty.
I built my HP Syr Carah thanks to chad's Syr carah, THIS DECK IS FIRE.
Turn 4 game 2, couldn't counterbalance counter 1 of the flusters then the ignoble tap to pay for the other? He had a swan on top
Without fail the single visible top comment everytime I click on one of these spoils the ending 😂😂😭
Chad earned his name, that was a pure chad moment.
I love the occasional sans blue game!
What would Nick have gotten with that EE?
Please, for us viewer sake, don't play tergrid on spelltable ever again XD
We live in a world of spelltable. Unfortunately this is usually the only way we can showcase it :(
Playing Tergrid on Spelltable? What a mad man!
Does Grapeshot with Syr Carah exile a pile of cards, or just one card? Super cool deck either way!
Each copy will trigger Syr Carah separately as it resolves; you can get a big pile of cards.
That first game made me scream.
Nice! I'm creating a tergrid deck, inspiring :)
WTH are those counterbalance hits?? O.o
How does grapeshot interact with syr carrah? They are all separate instances of damage, so wouldn't he exile the rest of his deck when he killed Nick. Doesn't impact this game, but just want to know the rules here
Yes, they are, but he just skipped doing that because he was winning with Aetherflux right then.
What.A.Set!! A+
When you have a Tergrid turn like that, you don't lose the game. You just don't. Especially not to a red deck that hijacked your spell. Whew.
there was zero blue at the table, main reason both swat and peer went off.
@@trveheimer6360 Exactly. Also, I love Jetmir but he does not belong at a cEDH table. He just doesn't bring enough value to warrant him as the commander. Especially if you're trying to play Naya.
@@charlesmaillho367 i strongly disagree, didnt jetmir win tournaments?
@@trveheimer6360 If you can find tournaments where he won then I'll gladly change stance.
And looking over this decklist, it just doesn't seem like it can keep up nor can it interact much. It's creature based and unless he is somehow slamming down 3 creatures a turn, this Jetmir deck will always be behind even with stax pieces out. Unless I'm missing something, I don't see how Jetmir can compete effectively and consistently to make him the commander in a cEDH deck.
@@charlesmaillho367 i didnt look at this specific decklist and i was wrong, it didnt win but take the semifinals of Ka0s 3. ComedIanMTG made a video about it.
i personally didnt play this but tymna kamaahl beats and its proficient if you mulligan for early stax pieces, my playgroup which is 100% cedh regularly got shot off and i won some random spelltable games too. jetmir is better insofar that the beats start to roll out quicker. for as long as white and green is color identity, it can even compete with green free interation, and ranger captains and silences. its aeons and aeons better suited for cedh than tegrid.
Bet part of not sleeping is being early for PWP
Tergrid’s Turn 1: imprint dauthi over blood pet? Didn’t end up being relevant but odd decision against 2 red decks presumably playing Breach
Goooddd question. So my thought here. Do I have a dauthi becaus I don’t think I’m gonna have an early tergrid, or do I exile dauthi to help and early tergrid followed by Lili.
Playing gilded drake against ppl that does not attack is extra good
First game was incredible, loved seeing the win from 1 life. Game two was just another boring Thoacle win, could have been better…though Kinan was pretty cool.
wouldn't syr carah exile a fuck ton of cards cause guttersnipe is storm meaning the copies are different instances of guttersnipe 8:35
Yes but it didn’t matter because the game was over.
less talk, more beeping pls
11:00 how does he activate kinnan? He only has 4 mana.
Kinnan makes all his non-land permanents tap for one extra manna, that’s three extra manna or 7 total
@@rupertbug1379 I thought 2 of those were lands. Thanks for the correction.
1 life doesn’t meAN IM DEAD YET!!
Kinnan is the way
i really dislike the dynamics tergrid creates. people made so many snappy comments about krarkashima but i think a lot of the criticism on that deck apply here, at least in a competetive environment. the tokens are impossible to recognize via spelltable, the outcomes are just always random complicated and as we saw people forget regularly some stuff is even there, its also just banking on getting random value due to being monoblack and (afaik) not having an enginge and wincon like k'rrik. im cool with playing fringe decks but this is testing me
Great games but I need to ask , the second game the decks are not of the same power level , alex deck is far more crazy . Do you guys do a rule zero talk ahead of the games ?
That Carah win after Tergrid did her shit.....
from a content perspective I would love to see some higher quality proxies on Alex's board.
Jetmir cEDH LETS GOOOO
Syr Carah wins are always awesome
Mmmm tasty Peer into the Abyss. Mine now c:
Bruh its the same day my lgs has a underground sea tournament fml
...just win with combat at that point, why go through that extra rigamarole 😑
Wishclaw is sorcery speed
It’s not. It’s instant speed but can only be activated during your turn.
Non-partner commanders. Woohoo!
The pronouns lol
Amazing games as always!!
Also have to say, even though its a small thing, thank you for adding the players pronouns in the video
Am I the only one that thinks stax is super boring to spectate?
Pronouns spotted. Subscription revoked
Continue to cope and seethe
Dilate
So what's the point of a bunch of Cis guys posting their pronouns? I see this trend on commander RUclips videos a lot more frequently these days. I feel like especially on videos where all you see are people's hands it'd kinda irrelevant.
Because inclusion.
It's a small thing they can do to encourage inclusiveness.
Everyone uses pronouns anyway.. why shouldn't people be comfortable sharing theirs?
@@kristopherwatts9466 This hasn't been an issue before throughout human history. It's you people making it an issue. You can call it inclusiveness, but by making a stink about it, you've actually turned a percentage of the population who are not "cis" into a minority, or even worse, a product. But hey, that's what the big wigs in the Democrat and Republican want, division between people. We don't care about pronouns, that's why we don''t want to see them. You care about pronouns.
I came here to watch that damn cat bastard lose. Jetmir must pay.
I'm so happy about the pronouns!
make the pronouns readable again
We are trying out different layouts. It’s a process, so bear with us.
Mystical tutor would be copied if you guys want to call out triggers. So games a wash.
There was and is no winner to this no matter how infinite that Kinnan deck is. It’s also TRASH because he HAD TO GO INFINITE TO WIN.
Shout out to PwP for listening to their audience. Pronouns moved above/below the text box so it doesn’t look cluttered 👍🤌