Which Camaro Is Better? 3rd VS. 4th Gen Camaro!! --'95 Z28 VS. '88 IROC-Z!
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Which Camaro Is better? Is it the 4th Gen or the 3rd Gen? So in this video we look at the 1995 Camaro Z28, (4th gen) and the 1988 Camaro IROC-Z (3rd Gen)!!
3rd gen is iconic, 4th gen was better built.
Iroc will eventually be an awesome classic
I love the Third gen
I love both, I've had 6 third gens they hold a special place in my heart but the 4th gen is just a better car
Love The 4Th Gen Always Will
I feel the same about my Iroc, buddy. Takes all kinds.
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Chiefs!!!!!
@@dirt2595 lose
@@trichomeboss2731 nothing
Ive had a 86 z28, a 97 3800, a 2016 turbo 4, and currently have a 98 z28. I love all camaros! Every generation looks awesome, especially when u start doing exterior mods. Long live the Camaro my favorite car of all time.
4th gen🔥
my grandad's cousin had a 1992 Z-28 in black with an aftermarket exhaust...looked/sounded like something Darth Vader would drive...it was so awesome! i still kinda want a black '92 Z-28 all these years later...
I drove a 94 Z28 for 20 years before it finally gave out on me. Went out and got me a 2004 C5. Love my Corvette but I also miss my Camaro. I loved that car.
The 4th gen is much faster, but the 3rd gen is easier to work on and modify. You can’t go wrong with either one!
Your wrong the 3rd Gen is way lighter than the 4th about a ton modified 3rd Gens are faster with a Ls or Ls3
@@trichomeboss2731 BS Everyone knows the 3rd gen is heavier and slower. 3,086.5-3,362.0 lb(3rd gen) 2,954-3,211 lb(4th gen)
You want to talk about modding and engine swapping? Well a 4th will smoke a 3rd every single time if you go that route.
@@woooose disagree 2,954 is with a v6 in it its heavier in a v8 it depends on the set up I've saw plenty of 3rd Gen blow the doors off the 4th Gen we can go all day about this modified the 3rd Gen is way faster you'll blow your heads trying to heat me
@@woooose your giving the 4th Gen v6 weight v8 to v8 the 3rd is a few hundred pounds lighter yea the v6 4th is lighter but if you compare v8 to v8 the 3rd gets on the 1/4 by a second nice try but I know
@@trichomeboss2731 Again your speaking pure made up bs. A 4th gen camaro(2000 model) holds the record for the world's fastest radial drag car. Modded 4th gens have more power potential and that's not even up for debate, even people on the 3rd gen forums openly admit this.
The difference in sales were due to horsepower and cost. Back in the 80's 4 cylinder cars were garbage! So Camaro's and mustang's rule the car scene. In the 90's the Camaro had to compete with the import scene. Which were clearly a lot cheaper to buy and Insured. And performance stepped up royally.
The 4th Gen Camaro to this day is a fast car right out of the box, and easy to mod the hell out of. A much better decision for the track than say a Honda Prelude.
@@renzokata agreed. But that engine bay is tight !
I owned and love both 3rd gen and 4th gen Camaro.
My dad had a dark red 1991 z28 when I was little but had to sell it for money. Even now I still want one, one of the coolest cars imo.
Good thing the 4th gen looks good from the back, that’s all the guy driving the 3rd gen will see. Lol. Love both cars but those 4th gen cars are some bad hot rods
said nobody ever...well, except you ;]
@@tbush2810 What I’m thinking 3rd gen is untouchable my neighbor has a black one sitting on drag wheels just sitting there and it’s the best looking car I’ve seen
Depends on your age my generation is 80's (3rd )
I was born in 98 and I’d still prefer the 3rd gen
I’m 15 and would take a 3rd a any day well I have one but it’s just cooler h th ey are cheap cars sadly
4th gen in stock trim is up almost a hundred horse. Gotta go with the fourth gen
Buuuuuut? It looks like a Saturn. I mean, the L98 is just a 350... so you can easy hop it up another hundred horse.... but you cannot fix ugly. ;-)
@@michaelthebarbarian3380 What in the world are you looking at? That 3rd gen is boxy and ugly as hell.
@@renzokata the 4th Gen Is the ugliest the 3rd Gen was iconic. Only thing good is taking the parts for the 4th and applying it to the 3rd
@@trichomeboss2731 Your mom likes what?
@@renzokata your mom likes is a cluck
I've had 2 Gen 1's, 2 Gen 3's, and 3 Gen 4's. My former 83 Z, 5.0 HO 5 spd, wasn't remotely close to my current 95. Gen 4's ride, run, handle, stop, and go so much better. On a trip, my 95 Z, LT1, 6 spd, has gotten 26mpg with T-tops off at 65-70mph.
The best thing about the 4th gens, is great parts for 3rd gens! LOL! Find a junked 98, 4th gen, (98 + have the LS motors)and they have great drivelines for 3rd gens.
Sorry dude, but the 4th Gens aerodynamic design is what makes it iconic and beautiful.
Some might think it depends on generation, but I’m gen z but personally love the 80s so the third gen is my favorite
Great video, Josh!
I have a 4th gen but have been looking to buy a 3rd gen. This helped me make up my mind.
Thanks.
Engine placement agree! One thing about 4th gen, open the hood at a car show and where's the engine? Well it's right back there! I know it's better for handling, I know it's worse for DIY maintenance cause I own one. But in 3rd gens "Welcome to my engine bay" is appropriate, 4th gens ... "where are you hiding this beast? I have a 4th gen, love her., warts and all.
I have been fortunate to have owned both the 3rd Gen and 4th Gen camaro. I had the '85 Iroc-z and I currently have the '02 35th anniversary z28 camaro. I loved the 3rd Gen but my 4th gen with the LS1 is where it's at.
The only thing I liked better on the 3rd Gen over the 4th Gen was that the t-tops were bigger.
I have a nice 1995 4th Gen and I just don't agree with the fact about the camero 4th looking like a Chrysler its definitely not and 3rd gen is nice but it's also older my opinion is modern is better
If modern is better why would you want ether one of these 😂
@@enzotheone Because modern although is cheaply made with fiber glass parts newer age is some times better I also wrote this 2 years ago so things are always seen differently try to imagine your own life and things said do I think an older camero is better yep do I still like modern yep but only in certain aspects
I like Camaro's, all of them. Except for the 3rd Gen. I especially like the 4th Gen. They're really good cars. Especially the LS1.
I like both but 4th gen all day!
I was born in December 1993, love the 4th gen more.
Surprising fact. 3rd and 4th gen have the same coefficient of drag. The 4th gen got a little slicker in 1998.
Whats your source?
I have a 95 Z28 I like the car but, It is hard to park in tight places. When you sit in the drivers seat you cannot see the front bumper or fenders and big blind spots behind. Hard to judge how far to pull up before hitting curb etc. On the hyway going fast the same seating position gives you a a feeling of being a jet airplane fighter jet. Reprogram the computer to remove the 108 mph fuel shutoff and you will see what I mean. I have made a few easy performance mods and my Gen4 probably has 150 more horsepower than a stock Gen3.
3rd gen
Performance, out the box, 4th gen. Looks, third gen. I own a 88 camaro sc with rwd lx9 v6 swap. Still working on my custom expensive LS3 build.
A 3rd gen is better than a 4th gen said no one ever. 4th gen FTW!!!
4th Gen looks like a Geo Storm on steroids.
I have a 91 geo storm and you couldn't be more right
When you said the 3rd gen handles better than the 4th... lol
Once she said under the windshield (the engine) my mechanic mind was like: ”NOPE NOPE NOPE!!”
Yup,nope,i bought one. All plastic inside, but better than a rice rocket. Love to upgrade to leather seats, drives perfectly and is a classic. I love my car. The plastic dash is 500.00 new. For a piece of plastic. Wow. Mine needs heat, heater core 680. Or something, well worth it, it's a Chevy and will have longevity.
The reason that 3rd gens sold better over their life span than the 4th gen is demographics. All the market research over the years by car makers showed that by the time the 90’s settled in, the country’s tastes were changing and two door cars became less popular and were replaced in popularity by SUVs and p/u trucks. Most people are not car guys and the two door cars have limitations in practicality vs a SUV, 4 door, or p/u. Having owned a total of 7 Camaros over the years across the generations, I would rank the 1st gen cars as the most user friendly for people space, and the 4th gen and 3rd gen a tie for practicality and usefulness. Without a doubt, the 4th gen is built better in terms of fitment and quality as new cars. And we know the LS cars were beasts during their day. I have only owned one Camaro brand new, which I special ordered, a 84 Z28 with the 5.0 HO and 5 spd with 4 wheel disc brakes. I only kept it two years due to the despicable 80s build quality. Make no mistake, all gen Camaros are good looking. Good job, and content. Keep up the good work.
Older generations of a model tend to be less refined but more durable. Newer get sleek, more MPG, lighter, cleaner emissions to comply with Government mandates (CAFE), more options, and expensive options of the previous might be standard of the new model. Sometimes new buyers and return customers are given surveys- a simple form to fill out and mail in- of likes & dislikes of the vehicles' various features. They mail them in, tally up the results- and the artists & engineers set to work on the next model. They also go by Dealer sales and repairs. Hey, man- hope you feel better soon!
In 2007, I was losing my great work from home job, so I began looking for a good car to go to work in. After years on the road with practical vehicles to haul my stuff from job to job (vans), I wanted a fun car. I began checking out 3rd Gen and 4th Gen Camaros everywhere within 150 miles of me. The majority of 3rd Gen had cheap plastic interiors coming apart from age. Performance was so-so. They looked dated, with the wedge shape design that was spawned in automotive design in the '70s. If I found one if very good shape and low miles so that they were decent condition, the price was crazy.
On the 4th Gen I found this. V6 models tend to require rebuilding the engines at 125,000 miles. V6 performance was ho hum at best. Mileage was maybe one or two mpg greater than the V8. They rode better than the 3rd Gen. They handled better than the 3rd Gen. Braking was incredible over the 3rd Gen. The LT1 was fast, but the LS1 was light years ahead. While I liked the LT1 body front end better than the LS1 front end, the performance of the LS1 made it no question.
While I never drove the 3rd Gen in the rain, I put thousands on in the rain in the 4th Gen. I imagine the 3rd Gen also had issues, as the '80s Mustangs did, too, and all those cars were relatively short cars with more power than weight. I'd recommend putting in some serious hours into autocrossing any so you get used to how they handle at the limits as I met more people who told me they used to have one. "Why did you get rid of it?" "Wrecked it." And many of those were wrecking in the rain.
The one really bad thing on the 4th Gen is that cheap plastic dash top that warps and then shatters.
I sold my '98 LS1 with 256,000 miles on it, and it would still haul butt down the road.
4th is superior in every way.
3rd
Fun fact unlike modern Camaros the 3rd gen is the last one where you can swap in big block Chevys without having to cut up your car like seriously a 632 ci big block Chevy fits right in the engine bay without having to cut up your firewall 😮💨😮💨
I got the 82 crossfire injection z28💪🏽
4TH Gens get alot of love idk where u getting your facts lmao
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Love your videos👍🏻👍🏻
I'm biased own a 1989 Camaro RS and 2nd gen 1970 Pontiac Firebird 400 🤘
Great vid , great info
Sebring ripped off the Camaro, can't hate the Camaro for that. I love the look of the 4th and 3rd gen....but still the first is best.
Yes, I was laughing at his comment on how if is mad about the Sebring redesigning in 1998 to look similar, and that was the Camaro's fault?
Almost everything he says in the first half of this is his opinion on what he likes more, not anything of substance.
you trade the tune port for dope or take the body parts off an IROCZ ?
very nice, I'm looking to find a 4th gen manual with t tops for a good price! The car is awesome!
Third gen camaro is timeless design .4th gen is basically for most part a upgraded third gen chassis with different body.5.0 tpi and 5.7 tpi had tons torque .more so when exhaust and intake were freed up.4th gen had lt1 and LS.either one can be swapped in third gen to match power.third gen camaro/firebird were raw cars.no electronic nany helping you.YOU controlled the car.
They must have terrible reliability cause I never see 3rd gens on the road but always see them sitting in driveways collecting dust/rust. Plenty of 4th gens out and about and they aren't going anywhere soon.
My 4th gen trans am doesn’t have the t top holders due to being a converted car. I’ve been looking for a solution to that and haven’t found one yet. I’ll probably order a t top case and just keep them in that though I’d love t add the holders problem is the pit looks wider on the t top cars
The 93 redesign was based off the Camaro California Iroc-Z concept car, more than the 3rd gen. cardesignnews.com/articles/concept-car-of-the-week/2015/11/chevrolet-california-camaro-iroc-z
Same with the Firebird. It was based off the Banshee concept car. s.hswstatic.com/gif/concept-cars-1.jpg
That’s why third gens get gapped by all the LT/LS cars 😭😂
It will always be that way though. The TPI walked on the TBI. The LT walked on the TPI. The LS walked on the LT. Now the newest generation injection "LT" walks on the LS and will remain the same pattern as time gos on.
I have the corvette engine for the Camaro
3rd gen great 4th gen even better perhaps much better
I wish i had a 3rd gen cause of looks
Love 3rd gen
1992 last year of the Maros Got it
Love the 3rd gen square body look. And interior. Even though the 4th gen.is faster better trans. The state police used them in nevada and connecticut. 3rd gen has the look for sure 4th gen has the foreign car look I cant get used to
4th gen trans am smokes the looks of the 3rd gen. Odd how the camero is the opposite!. I have a 88 ta gta
Hello, i'm french man 49 years old, and the camaro 3 iroc is the car of my dreams since long time now... i'm sad when i see any in no so good condition.
Chances are you won't see any on the road either because they're all broke down.
@@woooose Many drivers don't take care and just "play" with... Price of good models go up...
I only like 3rd gen cuz of tail lights and interior. 4th gen cool because it gets gone fast with little done to it lol.
My problem with 4gen is engine bay is so small no real room for big block power
I like the 4th gen all the way, considering it was the lightest generation Camaro ever made
Third gen!
The 3rd gen cars look way better, they ooze personality and charisma. The 4th gens look like most other generic looking modern sports cars.
Id own a 3rd gen Camaro or especially Trans Am any day of the week. I wouldn't look twice at a 4th gen of either version.
3rd gens might be a lot slower, but even now that is an easy and relatively cheap fit with a bolt in kit for a LS swap.
3rd gen by far!!!!!
1st and 3rd gen are the best
98-02 ss is the one you want to get ls1 enigine will destroy those 2 camaros you have.
LS1 is boss
Yea yea..but it wont sound or look as good doing it.
4th gens got better engines but the 3rd gens look is great, IMO the 4th gens are just ugly to me. Swap in a 4th gens LT1 or cheap LS and you got a perfect car IMO, but I own an Iroc-Z so I'am biased haha
Iroc -Z
Easily 3rd gen
Anyone in the comments please HELP!!!!!! im buying a car this march and im deciding between a 4th gen camaro 1994 or a 89 camaro. The red one dash says 238k miles but he swapped the engine to one with 89k miles. 4th gen has 60k miles . I love the 3rd cuz the looks, but 4th gens are faster. Which one SHOULD I GET?????? I need opinions PLEASE!!!!!!!!
I would say 4th just cuz i prefer looks.
Third gen is phenomenally easier to work on- owned both and swapped engines/ trans many times on the third gens. The 4th gen styling was a design time wants to forget... while the 3rd gen will remain a classic.
Are you kidding me the body styling of the 93-97 Camaro is more admired by car enthusiasts today then ever before. The prices for them have gone way up and will continue as these become super rare to find in great condition like mine 😎.
@@kevinrodriguez9701 Agree, while I love every Camaro, the 3rd gen had 3 times the amount produced as the 4th...as well as 4th gens getting "hot-rodded" and crashed/thrashed and destroyed due to them being a Corvette in sheep's clothing at value prices teens and 20s could afford used in the early and mid 2000s. Very few good condition 4th gen Z28s still exist. The 4th gen is very polarizing, you either love it or hate it. Over time I think the 4th gen will become the most rare....I would say 5th and 6th gen...but being of the muscle car revival and final swan song era of gasoline, they will live on and be loved many decades from now. Get a nice low mileage z28 with either t-tops or convertible top, with a manual transmission, and keep it forever.
What about handling? Which is better at cornering and braking?
Probably the third gen.
4th gen is better all disc brakes lighter car and they placed the engine back more for better stabilization corners better.
3rd gen does do well on cornering I had an 89 iroc z 5.7 5 speed
The third gens are easier to work on under the hood because the engine isn't pushed back like on the 4th
gens .plus third gen v8 motors don't run off that
shitty optispark distributor. I
miss the hell out of my 91
Camaro RS v8.the only issue
I had with third gens was the
the leaky t tops.
iroc-z
4th generation looks better
Notice how No one agreed with you
I agree
You should of took the 4th gen rear axle and put it in the 3rd gen so you could have 4 wheel disc on the 3rd gen
And 3rd gen hands down all day every day
I think the 4th Gen was trying a bit to hard to blend past generations of camaro in one body style.
3rd gen all day on looks, 4th gen on performance.
Hi I have 91 rs 305 engine I want to make it 400 or 600 hp should I change the engine to ls? I just want my Camaro go fast please help me what can I do?
LS swap
but the 4th gen is faster than the 3rd gen
3rd gen all day! 4th gen looks like a Chrysler Sebring! Haha!
THIRD GEN!!! '92 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Why didn’t you start them up
I should of, but if you want to hear the 4th gen, I have a start up video on my channel!
Ill take the 4th gen in every aspect over the 3rd gen all day.
I have owned a 1986 Camaro Iroc Z28 and a 2001 Camaro SS, and let me tell you that 3rd gen wouldn't hold a candle against the 4th gen.
Ask the drag racers which gen model they prefer, they always go for the 4th gen. Now if want to compare the 4th gens the 93 to 97 vs 98 to 2002? The 98 to 2002 wins hands down no comparison. They are better looking better engines/transmission and better suspension etc etc.
You must've been brain washed to like the 3rd gen over the 4th gen or following a fad 😂😂😂
The 3rd gen wins hands down. Ohh but their slower, yeah so drop a 350 in it, lt1 or a 383. They just look iconic. The 4th gen is so 90s generic looking and have to have one of the most garbage looking interiors. The interiors look like bloated puffy plastic resembling a little tykes play toy. Over all the 4th gens look like a sports car Saturn wouldve built, major downgrade in the styling department. Completely agree on the 90s Chryslers, ive been saying thats what they looked like since the late 90s when the Sebring was all over the streets, id go hey look a fwd camaro lol. Another thing is chevy should've at least had the common courtesy to put a removable dog house in the 4th gen like a van just so you could work on the thing.
The forth gen looked awesome when it came out in '93, but when they changed the headlights in the late 90s it looked too much like a Dodge Intrepid.
@@Whitetiger187 as much as i hate 4th gens, ill agree that if i got one for free, id prefer to have an early one. but they still look like a 3rd gen was transformed into a car sized dildo.
Someone wants to trade my 4th gen 95 119k miles convertible auto matic for a 83 auto matic 63 k miles hard top think that’s a good trade ?
What engines?
Love the 3rd Gen more. Just LS swap it.
1. 1st Gen
2. Early 2nd Gen
3. 3rd Gen
4. Late 2nd Gen
5. 5th Gen
6. Late 4th Gen
7. Early 4th Gen
Isn’t the 4th gen just a downgraded corvette? At least that’s what I’ve heard
3rd gen was slower, but 100 times better looking...early 4th gens were ugly af.
3rd gen's were dogs. Slow as shit.. Ive owed a 3rd gen and i still have my 94Z28. That said i can safely say I have a qualified opinion..The 4th cars are better in nearly every way.. 4th gens with the LT1's ( not a bad motor at all. If you say it ks your only proving your ignorance) and then the almighty LS1's. Iraq's had the highly flawed
Tune port injection or TPI. And that was only on the later models and the IROCs dress them came with that shitty 305 that put out like 110 horsepower so forget about it 4th gen rule 3rd gen rock was a decent car but nowhere near as good as Z28 of the 4th gen
gen 4 looks like a catfish gen 3 is king of the road I don't think your Gen 4 has the ls1 it's the LT1 that gen 3 is an RS with z28 hood and badging or they pulled the Z28 engine and installed the RS TBI 5.0 they did make the IROC first year with the older block and valve covers with TPI or carb but that's not what you have yours is the 170HP 255 LB/FT torque TBI engine you can tell by the center bolt valve covers, air cleaner as well as the single belt, hose and AC pump placement looks just like my 91 RS 5 speed unger the hood
4th generation looks better than the 3th gen
This guys so biased
4th gens and it isn't even close
Which car is better? Which car changed everything in terms of looks and style of modern muscle? The IROC-Z rims alone are the most copied/cloned/knocked off rim of any muscle car in HUMAN HISTORY....What was your question again, sir??? 😂
It's not faster then my 84!! And the 4th gens look like shit.