Lincoln Y-Block 279,317,341,302,332,368
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- Today On what it’s like this was Ford’s very first overhead valve V8 design which they gave to the heavy duty trucks and Lincoln cars. In this episode we will cover the 279 317, 332, 302, 341, 368 Engine displacement really cool episode with lots of cool information enjoy =) 
Don’t get this confused with the Y block ford engine which came out in 1953 two totally different engine families
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"Telephone Line" by Electric Light Orchestra
Yeah buddy congratulations you got it I love that song I was watch Jeff Linwood live from a few years ago he still has it he sounded incredible for his age..
Jeff Lynne@@What.its.like.
He still sounds great just listened to that song live from just this past year And he still looks like he has fun doing it so many bands older bands the passion is gone
Our Fire Department operated a fleet of 24 Ford F-800 trucks powered by the Y block 368 truck engine. Torque monster and very powerful. All had dua exhausts and a big Holly four barrel carburetor.Each servded for 15 years on front line service
Awesome story thank you so much for sharing that memory
" My Pappy said son you're gonna drive me to drinkin if you don't stop driving that Hot Rod Lincoln " .
Commander Cody
The original version was done in 1955 by Charlie Ryan and it was about a Lincoln V12 flathead.@@What.its.like.
@@chrisneilson7221 Several people covered it with variations. Arkie Shibley and Ramblin' Jimmy Dolan were two. I think it was Shibley who did 2 or 3 after-the-race songs, but that might have been Ryan. Commander Cody just introduced it to a new generation of listeners and made it a bigger hit than the others did.
@@What.its.like.And The Lost Planet Airmen
I had some knowledge of the Ford Y blocks, but I knew nothing about these engines. Thank you for the video.
Thank you randy glad you dig this episode =)
Can't wait!! I am addicted to these engine episodes! Reminds me of when I got my first Motor's manual. Waited months to come in the mail. I was 12 years old in 1963 when I got it for our brand new 64 Ford Galaxie XL which we got in Nov of '63. Such an exciting time for me.We ordered the car and waited 2 months for it to be built to order. Kids today don't even know what that means.I wanted the 427 cu in 4 speed option,but the dealer thought my mom wouldn't want 10 mpg!Still have that manual,.All local mechanics used them to work on cars. It was their Bible for repair!Wish I had the car ! Saw one at Hershey with a 427 . Price ? $ 125 K. Years ago.
Awesome I love doing them I don’t know what I like doing more of the cars are the engine episodes we might do transmissions eventually.. =)
Oh great!
As a child my mother had a 1954 Lincoln Capri Coupe. They purchased it one year old, they didn't plan to buy it since they had a relatively new '53 Ford convertible. But the opportunity came up and they went and drove it. She said after one block she and my dad looked at each other and realized the Lincoln was not at all like a Ford. It was very quiet, powerful, comfortable and handled well. Plus it had power...well everything. Obviously they bought it. They drove it into the mid-60's when they replaced it with a '64 Continental which was quite a different car, good but she never liked it as much as the '54. As to which I'd take, well the '54 Capri Coupe of course!
Thank you so much for sharing that story what great memories.. what happened to the ford did they trade that for the Lincoln or
I drove a 1952 Lincoln Capri to high school in 1965. It was not quick due to its weight, but once it got rolling, it was the smoothest hi-speed car I ever drove. It 1952, the speedometer only went to 110 MPH and I broke three of them... I would love to have another equipped like that one, 2-door hardtop, leather seats, power windows. air-conditioning, and a GM 4-speed Hydo-Matic. Sweet ride...
Awesome =)
Dunno why, but this episode reminded me as a kid nearly home from school yet still walking, I heard a high reving V8 coming towards me, yet I couldn’t see it yet
Then a Ford Louisville appeared over the crest of a hill, and the driver was driving it hard, but not really much speed on board due to the gearing, but it sounded so fantastic! It made my day!!
Thank you Jay for yet another great feature mate!
Thank you for sharing those memories
Still running the 368 in my 56 Premiere Coupe. Runs like a champ!
Awesome =)
Your Premiere was the true Hot Rod Lincoln of the day. Ford had the Daytona speed record in 1957 with a 57 mercury that had a 368 with fuel injection that was pushing close to 400 horse power which back in the 50's was quite the accomplishment. Love the Fords, Lincoln's, Edsel's and Mercury's of the 50's. Total Performance all the way.
Premier and the Turnpike. Wow ,the vehicles of that era were wonderful in style and quality.
I have a pink 57 premier. I was trying to find information on it when i discovered your channel. Building my shop now and can't wait to turn her into a cruiser.
I’ve been looking for a 57 to do I’m at classic auto Mall I miss the live show today I will see if they have one if they have a 57 I will do it
If they do, that would be awesome!
Unfortunately it was gone.. I’ll look for one this year
Well, once again, you're talking about an engine family that I have some familiarity with. Beginning in December 1975, I began a 2 1/2 year stint of driving a big 66-passenger school bus for Frederick County, VA. Frederick County had this habit of keeping its buses for almost forever, even when they had to change out engines in one multiple times. Anyway, my normal bus was a Wayne-bodied '64 Ford with a 361 V-8 and 5-speed Spicer transmission. But, there were still several '63 Fords on the spare line that all had the 332 V-8 with New Process transmissions. So, I often had to drive one of them when my regular bus needed service.
There was quite a difference between driving the 361 and the 332. To start off with the 361, I had to just lightly touch the gas pedal while drawing out the clutch. If I did that with the 332, I would stall it. So, with the 332, I always had to rev up the engine before drawing out the clutch. And, if I were to rev up the 361 while starting up, it would cause the whole bus to shudder like crazy. It always messed me up when having to alternate between my '64 and one of the '63s.
Awesome thank you so much for sharing your experience with both of these engines =)
1956 Lincoln Premier is one of my favorite Lincoln's. Along with the 1961 - 1969 body style, then the 1970 - 1979. Guess I love Lincoln. Guess I should get one...
56 premiere is a stellar car there are three cars that look very similar 56 Lincoln premiere 55 Plymouth and 55 Packard those three cars look very similar.. in my opinion
Most folks have forgotten about the 1957 Lincolns...but I owned one, over 50 years ago!...That 368 was, IMO, just OK...The rated 300hp did not really feel that powerful, mainly because the vehicle was so big and heavy...I believe 0-60 times were like 11-12 seconds. But the car was so incredibly comfortable, very posh interior, and I, unlike most people, loved the large fins! Sadly, 1957 was a mediocre year for Lincoln sales, which is why you see very few of these barges on the road, or even at retro-car shows!...And like you said, in 1958, the big Y-block 368 was history.
Interesting to learn about these engines. There were none left being driven by the time I started driving and learning about and doing car mechanics so I knew nothing of them. WYR 52 and the Turnpike Cruiser.
Sweet choices =)
Very interesting to know more about the Lincoln Y block family. In the 80s I drove a '53 Ford F800 3 axle truck with this Lincoln Y block. It had a 5 x 3 trans and a 2 1/2T military truck bed set up with ramps for hauling small dozers. It was pretty slow and dated even for the 80s but it got the job done around the local area.
I always wondered what the difference was between Ford Y blocks and Lincoln's.
The Lincoln is bigger
Heavy Brutes, too.
@@What.its.like.my question are these engines interchangeable at the bell housing with the fords.
Premiere. By far at the top had a Capri 56 and colony park 59 went to a Willy's 6 cyl. 52 wagon 4wd after the CP
Fascinating motor. Huge upgrading capacity built into it.
Thanks again Jay for another wonderful video, ill take the 54 and the 57 hardtop wagon they are both unique and beautiful
Great choices glad you dig this episode =)
Great video! Thanks!
Glad you dig this video
Thank you so much for watching it =)
For the first WYR scenario, I'll take the '56 Premiere. For the second one, I'll take all of them. One of my neighbors had a '56 and a '57 Lincoln, so it brings back childhood memories. And I always thought the top-of-the-line Mercs for '57 were interesting, especially since they weren't legal in all states at the time because of the quad headlights.
I’m glad this video could bring back those memories great choices =)
Another great engine review, Jay! Lincolns are some of my favorite cars. In this case, I'm reminded of many stories my Dad and his parents told about a white/red top/white leather '55 Capri w-door hardtop they had that was quite the performer! My grandparents liked it so much that they kept it far longer than they usually would keep a car in those days. And I'll take the '56 Lincoln and the '57 Mercury.
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My buddy's uncle had a 1957 Turn pike Cruser with the Marauder engine. The car Was shiny black with lots of of Chrome. I was only 7 years old but I can still remember riding in that car. It was the first car I ever seen with Aluminum Valve Covers.
For WYR, the Lincoln Premiere in both comparisons. They are cleaner, less busy, more 50’s futuristic looking. Also, Jay I mentioned previously if you could find a feature of the car or engine that was special or unique. You did that by mentioning the oil filter location 👍. Also, once again you found some great documentation
Awesome choices =) happy you dig this episode
My neighbors had a 1957 Mercury convertible in red and white, with matching door trim and seats. It had fender skirts and the push button shift with the Park lever below it.
Love all of these cars
Hi Jay!: These engine episodes are GREAT! As far as I can remember, the Duesenberg Model J engine had a oil filter housing like that of the Lincoln that mounted to the exhaust side of the engine. They were usually polished aluminum so they kind of stand out in photos of the engines. WYR#1 1956 Lincoln! That is one of those NICE looking 1956 cars! WYR#2 1957 Lincoln! Still looks good like the '56 but with FINS!
Duesenberg had a funky set up to my knowledge it had two Internal filters there was a lever I believe it’s on the driver side when you’re ready to change your oil you just move it all the way to the left and it just opens a trap door in to pan to release oil that’s the way leno explains it
1952 Lincoln for sure 😁
Sweet =)
The big 368 Y-block was available in the '57 Mercury. Not sure how many were made. Early proto-muscle from Ford!
Yes =)
I will take the Turnpike cruiser any Day!
Sweet choice
The 341 is a 5.5 litre, not a 5.2 as stated in this post. Great video as always , very informative. Linclns GREAT 8's as I like to call them.
Thank you so much for that. Correction, glad you dig this episode.
Interesting video. I didn't know much about this engine family. I think you're correct that this was the first engine with a full-flow spin-on oil filter. I thought it was on the 1956 Ford engine. I would rather have the 1956 Lincoln Premier and the 1957 Mercury Voyager Wagon.
The 1957 Mercury wagons are irresistible and will never go out of style.
I wonder if anything predates it..
The only thing in the same category would be the 1956 Rambler 4 door hardtop Cross Country station wagon. @@What.its.like.
1959 Rambler cross country wagon is my favorite wagon of all time.. I absolutely love those I have never seen the ambassador version in the wild I saw one for sale a couple years back for 18 grand under the hood is that legendary 327 it was a stellar looking car 18 Grand was like the equivalent of $1 million at that point lol
The spin-on oil filter was first used on certain 1957 Ford, Mercury and Lincoln engines. It was kind of a mid-year phase-in situation.
Good to hear from you, you funny looking buggar
54 Capri, Voyager. BTW, I heard that the first iteration was available with a supercharger but can not substantiate it. Thanks for the overview. 👍😁
The Y block is the Chevy headed engine since Duntov went to Chevy the next year.
you do a great job hunting down information on all these engines, two things I would like to add would like to add to your list, the Bore spacing on this engine 4.62 the same as the FE engine, and there 2as also a 335 hp 368 engine called the Marauder 368. this was the engine Ford used in the 1957 T bird to set the speed records at Daytona Beach in 1957. this is an engine that is not talked about vary often.
I made a mistake the 368 High performance was called the Marauder 335
Also had dual quads! very hard setup to find these days.
Thank you so much for sharing all that added information I greatly appreciate it I try to do as much research as possible but somethings just slipped through the cracks
@@jeffwalker9818 Believe it or not there was a Marauder 335, on Craigs list just presently, It was the whole Car not just the engine. I spotted it but the add had sold across it.
@@What.its.like. Don't sweat it man you do a real good job on the engines you list.
I love all these beautiful automobiles!🤩 I'm tending to sway towards the '52, but then the '54 Capri is very appealing, and I am also drawn to the unique styling of the Premieres, very tough decision🤔, but I'd definitely have to pick the Voyager wagon, especially the one pictured! 😎
Great choices
My 1957 Lincoln, which I drove back in 1970...had one rather ugly feature...the air-conditioning ducts began as large, weird-looking tubes, located in the back ledge area--because the Air-con unit was in the trunk, under the window!...These tubes funneled the cold air up into the headliner, where there were air vents, two in front, two in back...A very strange arrangement!..did not matter to me, as the compressor had quit working, long before I had bought the car...in fact, the guy I bought the car from,helped me to remove those fugly tubes!
Any one of those vehicles would make a nice project. Then just to choose whatever's available. Lucky to find a good tow truck. Being serious about a hobby is costly.
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52 Lincoln
57 Voyager wagon. 😊
Sweet choices =)
Great info on the Lincoln Y block.First choice 56 Lincoln premiere, second, Year of my birth 57 Lincoln.
Neat picture of the 56 Ford Marmon-Herrington all wheel drive tandem truck, love to have that one too.
Glad you dig this episode =)
The 1956 Lincoln won several awards for it's overall beauty...My 57 was not well-received, for whatever reason, likely the pronounced large fins and huge tail lights. I liked it!
Very informative. I'm a FOMOCO fan through and through for more than 60 years. WYR? 1956 Lincoln. 1957? Do I have to? '56 was the winner across the entire lineup. I'd choose the '57 Lincoln and trade it for a '56 Victoria hardtop in turquoise and white.
Awesome choice glad you dig this episode =)
I would take all them cars lol
Sweet =)
Ford made a overhead cam overhead valve engine in the 40s ...it was huge over 1000 ci. To power tanks for the war.that was fords first overhead valve engine
Awesome information
Hey jay thanks I never knew about these big block y block engines I wonder if this lincoln Y block had top end oil delivery problems like the ford ?? anyway too- ta - loo
I joined a Lincoln y block group and I asked that very question and I didn’t get a direct answer.. but I would imagine it would be the same why would Lincoln only use this engine for five years..
WYR 1: All of them.
WYR 2: All of them.
=) sweet
Hi Justin, good video, and very accurate! Please reply. Dave...
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Hot rod Lincoln... I know
can the 302 be bored safely to 368? or do other changes need to be done?
I would want the 1956, and 1957 Lincoln.
I don't think there was a deck height change in the Y blocks. I think the difference was all bore, and stroke, on those. Those Mercury's we're so ugly! The MEL engines were a beast! Big, and heavy, but high factory horse power for the time.
Agreed, those Mercurys were garish and had too much chrome. I wonder if we’re related? 🤔
@@markw208 😂
Premier in both cases.
They always told you that vertical headlights were a Pontiac invention.
Turning out nothing is as it seems I thought chevy came up with spin on oil filter but alas that was a ford idea
TAKE THE 56 PRIMERE AND THE 57 TURNPIKE CRUISER
Sweet choices
Is the bell housing bolt pattern similar to to any other engine
Not sure but with fords record probably not
Are these what the song *”Mercury Blues”* refers to?
I would really like to see some episodes on heavy duty trucks from the 40s, 50s, and 60s. That might be a little outside the scope of your channel. I don't know if you have any plans or interest in this sort of range but you would have at least one fan. :)
Most definitely will pepper them in here and there =) definitely want to do more Coe and trucks in general
I like the 56 premier
Sweet =)
Your WYR is not fair to FoMoCo folks like myself... both scenarios, I'd like one of each please, but especially the Voyager! I get that the 50's was a time of engineering advancement and experimentation, but I can't help but think that if the Big 3 streamlined their options, how much more capital could have been reinvested. Most companies now don't even offer an engine option choice, unless it's to add a turbo. Great segment as a Lincoln/Mercury guy! Thx!
To be fair.. they are always hard or at least I try and make them where you have to think about it =)
Lincoln Capri for me.
56 Lincoln, only because it is not as ugly... Lincolns of this era must have been an acquired taste,,,
57 Lincoln, same reasons as above... eek
Sweet choices =)
The 56 lincoln is boss!
This Lincoln engine family is emblematic of FoMoCo's dithering in the '50's and '60's, which really hurt them. The Y block engines were developed for trucks (with heavy duty skirting for tough duty, necessary for trucks but not so much for cars) but were also used in cars. Neither the Linc or Ford Y block was as good a car engine as the 5 GM OHV's or Chrysler Hemi's and the Ford was troublesome with lube weaknesses. FoMoCo put all their effort into style starting 1949, and IMO leapfrogged GM and Chrysler... but their mechanicals lagged... that might be where "Ford: Fix or repair daily" got its start
Great information
On the contrary, the Ford's Y block had the gm and chryslers engines beat in the long haul as the oiling problems were only on the 239 and the 279 and were mostly solved by the 1955 model year and the 368 was a real power house back in the Hot Rod Lincoln's of the day .
Then why is the 368 a forgotten engine, when the Chevy 283, Pontiac 347, Olds 371 J2 are so much better remembered ? Ford didn't make great engines until the 390/427 and the 260/289/351
Forgotten engines? Never even heard of the 371, 347 and the 283, wasn't nothing to brag about. Be mind full the the 430 Super Marauder was the first engine in 1958 to break 400 horsepower barrier, so your point about forgotten engines bares no savy...
Hi Jay, the 341 should be a 5.6 litre (5.588L) not a 5.2 litre.
Thank you
And the 57 Lincoln premier
Sweet choice
Will the transmission from other ford products bolt up to these engines ?
Not sure ford was and is still weird I’d venture to say no they had 3 different case sizes and three different tail shaft sizes in the late 50s
I really like these episodes. IMO, you don't need to read all the slide information to us. Hit the key points of interest and we can read the rest if we're interesting in learning more. You seem rushed reading all the slide contents.
I make the slides after doing the episodes I have a script that I read from.. sometimes when I find conflicting information I will change it on the slide and say something different..
Glad you take the channel
I think I read the slide stuff fast because you guys could read it too plus I don’t wanna lose anybody over the specifics
Bee Gees Massachusetts?
It was telephone line ELO
The 56 premier. Had a colony park sold to someone w 8kids was too big 😮 and a gas hog
ELO Telephone line?
Yeah buddy someone just beat you for title
1956 Premiere 1957 Voyager
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56-57 Continetal
Awesome choices
I thought the 390 was a Y-block?
The 390s part of the FE engine family we covered that family here’s the link
ruclips.net/video/YDeBCxe6Ews/видео.htmlfeature=shared
The 341 is a 5.6 l, not a 5.2 l
Typo thank you for that correction
57 Lincoln premiere
I owned one...the interior was excellent!...A large radio speaker was right under the middle of the dash, and there was a floor-mounted button that would squirt lube oil to the chassis joints when you stomped on it!
None of the above.
Didn't pcv start in1963
I’m not sure when it started
PCV was the first 'emissions control', and was Federally mandated for either 63 or 64 cars, I can't remember. Prior to this, engines had 'road draft tubes' which with worn rings created a cloud of smoke under the hood of stopped cars, sometimes so bad you'd think they were on fire. They also spit oil onto the roadways; not good for traction. The end of the tube was cut on a slant which created a sight vacuum when the car was driven forward.
@@P_RO_I remember seeing old US films showing these black streaks down the middle of each highway lane and wondering why they were there. I never saw anything similar in the UK.
341ci isn’t 5.2. Math wrong. 341 divide by 61 = 5.59 so 5.6L. Just saying lol. No biggie.
Probably just a error lol
Thank you so much for that. Correction, it was a typo.
I kinda laugh when I see car guys who worship old iron.
If the old stuff was worth a SH it would still be mfg.
BUT, it was replaced with newer, better, stronger, ect.
Lets move on.
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Some of that old iron is very pricey now, dude!...New cars are technically better, but forget about new car styling, they most all look the same!
You have your Yblock sizes wrong. you had the 239 and 272 and 292 and 312 and 332 and 368. Youre also wrong on the first year of the OHV Yblock, as it was 1954 and not 52.Also the 302 you mentioned is a windsor engine that was 1968 and was not a Yblock. I have noticed the Mil generation has come up with false LITERATURE MADE BY PERSONS OF A LATER TIME. eVEN WIKI HAS SOME FALSE INFO
This is lincoln y block totally different engine family the y block your Referring to is the Ford Y block it’s smaller two different families
More false literature. Pertaining to lincoln it is only the 368 CID that was larger in deck height, but Ford and lincoln are the same thing. . As for the Yblock sizes I mentioned that is the only CID sizes for the ford Yblock. There is false literature all over the net and even books of things that just arent true. You take Mondello Olds site, at least 50% of that information is wrong but for some reason it is the most popular site
www.macsmotorcitygarage.com/fords-forgotten-y-block-the-1952-57-lincoln-v8/
That’s false the Lincoln engine is a different engine all together
Thats fake information. You mills cannot be argued or debated with. I told you most on the net is false. No Yblock or OHV v8 existed in the Ford line until 1954. Let me save us time and I wont partake in any more of your vids. Go ahead and believe in a fictional history brother if you choose. Im MUTING you also to save time@@What.its.like.
You’ve been misinformed it’s in literature from 1952 so you’re gonna argue with that too…
here is some literature from 1952 from Lincoln. You can read it. The literature is from Lincoln motor car company so you’re saying the car company that built the cars are wrong. The Lincoln Y block was also used in Muntz jet…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Y-block_V8_engine
www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Lincoln/1952%20Lincoln/1952%20Lincoln%20Full%20Line%20Brochure/image9.html
I’m sorry if you’ve never heard of this engine family but it’s a totally different engine family than the Ford Y block it shares nothing with that engine except the name y block name two totally different families… if you wanna mute me that’s fine you’re entitled to your own opinion but your opinions wrong.
www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Lincoln/1955_Lincoln/1955_Lincoln_Brochure/1955%20Lincoln-06.html
www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Lincoln/1956_Lincoln/1956_Lincoln_Brochure/1956%20Lincoln-12.html