Glad Olympus has continued with these; I always carry one in the front pocket of my bag. Started in the early 90s with an Olympus Mju then in 2004 my first digital camera a Mju 200 until replacing that with a TG-3 which died 2yrs ago and replaced by a TG-6. I always carry it as a back up camera. Mostly I will carry a normal camera with a prime lens and the Mju will provide a zoom if needed. I remember going on holiday and haviong trouble with my Nikon DSLR on the first day and then used the Mju for the rest of the holiday and it was fantastic. Returning home I dumped the Nikon and bought a Panasonic GX7 with 14-140mm for holidays and an Olympus 17mm f1.8. It was the end of SLRs for me. I have now moved on to my Sony A7II but still keep a Mju for all occasions. Mjus are just unique, nothing else like them; lots of fun ;-)
And I always have my (now second) Stylus 1s as my go to compact camera. It's not durable like Though, but it's a hell of a good camera still. And I love it. I also use OM-1, and OM-5. But Stylus 1s I love. I do understand your thing about Mju and TG.
Great video, Peter! I like how durable these cameras are but I am a bit disappointed they didn't add anything really new over the TG-6. It would've been really nice if they were able to update the lens a bit and maybe have used a new sensor. It didn't even have to be a bigger sensor just an updated sensor in general. I know the smaller sensor keeps it small and gives it the ability to focus closer. But jeez this has been the same sensor and lens combination since the TG-5 (maybe even longer honestly). Or at least sell this camera with ALL the accessories. That would make the camera worth buying over the older models.
I get the feeling that OMDS are just updating some of the existing cameras from Olympus to move ahead with the rebranding as old Olympus stock runs out, and also give the market something new talk about, rather than not releasing anything. This extra time gives the R&D department breathing room to work on something spectacular. OMDS have really been only going for a couple of years and it takes a long time to develop something brand new, even if they are still working with a lot of the old Olympus staff. I suspect that when something really new comes out it will be pretty spectacular. I know lots are waiting for a new Pen F. Personally, I'm glad it came out now as I was about to buy a TG-6.
@@chrispatmore8944 I very much agree with you views. OMDS hit it out of the park with the OM-1, and we know the OM-5 will need updating by the end of 2024 if only to replace the microUSB with a USB-C port as required by the EU, and they still need to do something with the E-M10 series. I'm OK with them making careful but strategic steps. But, putting what they have done so far into context, they have three cameras with the OM System label that are truly weather hardened and adventure capable.
Good points here. OMDS is basically a start-up in a way. It is quite small company. OM-5 do not need to be upgraded. You can sell cameras without USB-C after 31.12.2024. The regulation is for new equipment. The cycle for 5-cameras has been about 3-4 years. I would expect upgraded OM-5 not until late spring 2024 or even August 2024.
@@ForsgardPeterPeter, living in the US I wasn't aware that the EU USB-C mandate would allow existing equipment to be grandfathered in. That's great news for OMDS because, as you said, the OM-5 is good for several years, and now OMDS can put their money and energy into other products. The good thing about "startup" companies is that they typically have much faster decision processes and can react to market conditions faster than large bureaucratic organizations. Thanks.
I have had the TG-6 ever since it came out. It replaced my old TG-830 and was a significant upgrade. It's a great little durable camera for casual shots and I take it with me whenever I am going on a local hike, a beach resort or to a casual get-together where I just want a camera to take a few snapshots i.e. where I am not that worried about maximum image quality and just want something very pocketable. I suppose I could use my phone in the latter occasion but I really don't like the ergonomics of using the phone and prefer an actual camera body. Looking at the TG-7, I do not see anything that would prompt me to upgrade from my TG-6. If they added a viewfinder and a shutter priority option I would snap one up.
I bought it and it is a very interesting Camera for holidays with family and kids. The Macro capabilities are AMAZING. I can leave the camera with my kids with no worries! The camera is like a tank! It is almost impossible to break it! The iQ could (and should) be better, but perfectly usable for holidays pictures!
One other amazing feature of this and every TG starting with the TG-3 is the in camera macro focus stacking. It is truly phenomenal. The TG-1 was my first Oly camera and my first point and shoot. I got the TG-3 when they introduced focus stacking and then the TG-4 because it added RAW. The quality and awesomeness of these little gems was a huge factor in my change from Nikon full frame to Olympus - in my case the EM-1 Mk2. I have my TG-4 with me always and will now look at this new version to see if it is worth upgrading in my case.
I bought the original TG-1 for motorcycle travel, then got the TG-4 and next the TG-6. These cameras should not be judged by what they don't have that other cameras do, but rather by what they have and can do that other cameras can not. By that I mean the compact size, and amazing durability. The camera you have with you is the best in the world at moment vs. no camera at all, and the TG series has allowed me to get some amazing shots which might have killed my cell phone. Thanks, Peter.
@@FierceSleepingDog I love mine. You have to understand that it is a small sensor and you will lose some IQ at higher ISOs but modern post processing software is close to magic. It's a fun camera.
I bought a TG-5 for my son to use when he goes snorkelling and scuba diving in the Gulf of Oman, he has produced some amazing footage of turtles, whale sharks. sea snakes, etc. I would would be very interested in the TG-7. Great to see you back covering OM Peter.
A nice enough incremental update. USB-C charging 👍🏻. Keeps the TG current. No need for me to update my TG-5 at all. I’m happy the TG-7 is still there if I ever need to replace what I have sometime in the future.
I'm really tempted here. I have an E-M1 iii, a Pen-F, a E-PL9, a D500, and a D850. This camera is intriguing. Put in your pocket and don't worry if you beat the heck out if it. Very liberating. The rest of my gear gets babied.
I still have a working tg2. I take it on those adventure courses, its been caked in mud numerous times and has been dropped into the ocean where a scuba driver retrieved it. The images are very usable in auto mode. I do wild life photography, so i know how to configure a camera but when the buttons are just mud and the screen is barely visible putting in the correct settings is to difficult. Video does need improvement especially stabilisation, hope it's better on the tg7
Used TG-4 for field work (needed a camera that can be used in dense vegetation without worries of camera breaking down as it will get dirty or wet unavoidably). Much more convenient than using anything bigger plus image quality was sufficient fr my use, so might need to upgrade the old TG-4 to this one. The old camera still works, but it has been reasonably abused so it might “die” some time soon. Macro shots are good with that light diffuser, and like the fact you can sink the camera (if not going deep diving) without any extra housing needed. Also has worked fine in cold temperatures. 😊
Thanks Peter for the update. I really enjoy TG-6 and it is my daughter camera really. She has been using it over a year now and it still runs like a champ since she was 5. In camera charging is so slow on TG-6 so USB-C is a really nice addition. However, these small upgrades (video, construction mode, etc) on TG-7 doesn't justify to pay $150 over TG-6.
As someone who has never owned an Olympus tough camera, this is really interesting. I still occasionally use my Canon G15; this would be something like it, but with added toughness. An extra durable every day carry camera. Shutter speed priority would be an added feature. And a digital ND filter (like the Canon) would be nice, too.
Ver happy to see these continued to be produced. My tg5 has been to hell and back and taken incredible photos. Hoping there is enough demand for these so we can see a serious upgrade in 3 or 4 years.
Hi Peter! I watched this video with great interest because I have been using a TG5 since its first days replacing the TG4. I have some comments to offer, particularly for people considering whether to upgrade from a TG5 or TG6, and for those hoping to maximize usability of this model range. I have found the TG5 to be a great travel camera and also I love to use it on the beach and on rocky shorelines where salt spray and sand are a threat to other equipment. Sometimes I even wade into the water to make "portraits" of waves. My TG5 has many advantages over an iPhone: it's rugged and has computational functions that are not available on the iPhone, such as focus stacking and pro capture. The TG5's macro capabilities are incredible, and as you point out, the ergonomics allow for unusual shooting positions that are awkward with an iPhone. So what's not to like? As far as I can tell from the specs, the TG7 lens is unchanged from TG5 and TG6. While the zoom is unique compared to iPhones, people should know that there are some significant image quality issues. At f2, the corners of the image are unacceptably soft at the widest angle setting (25mm full frame equivalent). Fortunately, there is one physical aperture stop, to f2.8, that improves resolution in the corners.(The remaining "aperture" stops are handled by neutral density filters.) But if you like to shoot at the widest angle of view, even stopped down, image quality in the corners is not great. At the other end of the zoom range (100mm full frame equivalent), the image is unacceptably soft and low contrast across the entire area. If you use the lens in the full frame equivalent range of 35mm to 75mm or so, and keep it stopped down by that one physical aperture, you will be pleased with the image quality. And you will be impressed with the macro images as well.
@@rumrill5020 There is one full physical aperture stop and a three stop optical ND filter. So at the 25mm equivalent focal length, the available apertures are f2 (wide open), f2.8 (physical aperture) and f8 (ND filter).
While it may seem odd to only have two physical f-stops and the rest being dealt with by ND filters, stopping down using aperture would probably have introduced some serious diffraction issues, which are not there using ND filters. As the small sensor already has enough depth of field (comparatively speaking, of course), stopping down would possibly ruin more than do good. I use a TG-6 for underwater photography with an optically-triggered external strobe - and if you are using the extremely capable macro abilities the amount of light needed is often such that the control feedback cannot switch the strobe off fast enough - so you get over-exposed images. But, with the ND filters in place, this can be controlled very easily, with great results. I normally use a house dSLR with macro lens underwater, and while the image quality, as such, is better, the small, compact and easy-to-use TG's come very, very close in macro - they have a good reputation for this, and deservedly so.
@@guidoz1747Yep, that’s what I figured, thanks. One reason why I like my Canon G15. At f1.8 it has the equivalent depth of field of around f7-f8. And with digital ND filter is usable in good light.
Good thing they kept at it, first ever Oly I bought was the TG-6 which didnt last more than three months due to the menu system and that I bought the red one over the black. Three years after that I finally cracked it, with no little thanks to you. Ended up buying a second hand TG-5 this summer, based on the price being right. I am somewhat keen on the TG-7, but that is mostly based on the upgraded screen over the TG-5, but not before it dips in price.
Edit: list of changes below. I welcome the fact that OMDS is bringing its range to life, of course, but like others here, I wonder about the specific characteristics of this product evolution. I have noted that the brand name has changed but the other changes seem much more discreet. I'm not saying that OMDS is manipulating us or doing "fake" things; as of today the TG-6 and 7 are available at the exact same price on the OMDS Europe site, so with this new model we gain "for free” the choice of the branding. I look forward to another more technical article if you have the opportunity to make one. EDIT: In order to introduce facts (and not just opinions) into the comparison between the TG7 & 6 models, here are the differences according to the public information available on the omsystem site: Scenes Modes: 22 modes available (was 16) New modes are: Documents, Indoor, Construction 1/2/3, Slow Shutter Sequence Shooting: Improvements of the max numbers of frames in HI and LO modes High: RAW 46 / JPG: 74 (was Raw: 14 / Jpg: card capacity) Low: RAW 115 / JPG: card capacity (was: 40 / card capacity) Others: Flashs FL-36R, FL-50R, FL-300R are no longer supported (or more likely not advised since hardly available). Exif 2.3.1 (instead o 2.3) Reduced languages of UI / UX 18 (was 39) USB connector: type-C (not specified for TG-6)
@@whippedcreampictures according information provided by the marketing people who wrote the notes I've reported YES. But this is almost certainly PARTIAL info summarized by the marketting dpt, meaning by people who may don't understand any figures or units. Possibly the limit of 74 applies to image quality which didn't exist on TG-6, while TG-7 settled to the TG-6 resolution will still only be limited by card capability. Marketting publications* are just to attract customers, not to give precise nor exhaustive information.
I was toying with the idea of a Ricoh GR, but this has given me pause for thought. I know the Ricoh has a bigger sensor, but the portability and cost are my two main criteria. Being this robust probably swing it for me
Ricoh GR is a great camera, but it is a different type. The durability is not nearly as good as it it with TG-7. For street and casual photography Ricoh GR is a grrat camera. If durability is something you do not need, then GR is a better choice.
I like the macro features. As you are walking around you might see something up close. This camera allows you to get in real tight. The focus stacking feature is really cool. The guide light is key. I leave it in my car. So when I go to events it's always there, ready to go...no matter what the conditions. Its ruggedness is important. It liberates you from always worrying about your gear.
I don't understand the advantage of this over a GoPro that, although smaller, even has a slightly larger sensor and does 27mp photos and way better video. Seems macro is the only thing this does better. Am I missing something? 😅
I use both GoPro's and a TG6 for underwater video and photos, and the use-case of either is vastly different: the GoPro excels at video and wide angle - without strobe triggering it is horrible for underwater photos (due to lack of light you get image noise as the ISO goes up, and without artificial light, lacking colour), and you simply cannot get too close to anything without it being out of focus. The TG's on the other hand are far better for photos because of the flash which can trigger an external ones, and the amazing close-up and macro abilities. Having zoom also makes it a bit more versatile in a certain range - where the GoPro's view is still far too wide even in linear mode. From a video point of view the TG's fall behind: you can always hear the clicking of the autofocus, and the zoom sound is horrible. But, if you want to video a small creature, it does work rather well - and that is something you simply cannot do with a GoPro. So, if I need some wide video, I use the GoPro, if I want photos and macro, the TG.
Thanks Peter! Somewhat more of an action camera, but for photographers I think. The focus distance is amazing and the ability to zoom a bit could be fun! For video how is the stabilization?
Wonderful Camera! But I believe they could have launched with a slightly larger sensor and offering 4K 60, thus being able to compete better against Top Smartphones. But I'm going to buy one anyway.
TG-7 really differentiates itself from the competition with its accessories. Nikon COOLPIX W300 beats it by sheer depth but add the external case on the TG-7 and the TG-7 wins. I like the idea of a Tough camera and I have one digital plus a Nikonos film camera with a couple of lenses purchased in 1983 (which I nicknamed it Drop-Kick after it went flying and tumbling on some rocky ground without a sign of it ever happening - I was on a kayak trip down the Yukon River at the time near Dawson City at the time). Thanks for the information.
I own a tg6 and i use it for underwater macro video and its awesome. one thing i was hoping and waiting for a long time to see on the tg7, was an increase of fps from 30 to 60 for 4k video and maybe 1080 @ 120 fps. Hopefully they will do it next time.
@@ForsgardPeter I try to use EM5 Mark 3 to do video record, it is blur when I moving/rolling the camera. So I thinking need another camera to record video when I go out with friends.
I really love my TG-5. It’s so practical and versatile. The raw files can be edited just like those from my OM-D cameras and provide excellent quality. But the camera has one unacceptable flaw: when zooming in, the image quality decreases dramatically and is not better than using digital zoom. Has that been improved?
Hi Peter. A problem with the TG5 was that the antireflective coating on the LCD was prone to scratching and wear. Any word from OMDS re whether the TG7's screen is more durable?
TG7 questions: Does the “Construction Mode” Panorama use the much-improved EM10 IV Panorama UI? What does the Time Lapse exposure normalization look like compared to the TG6?
Basically, it's still the same camera as the TG-5. Same body, mostly the same controls and features, same lens, same sensor. And there's nothing wrong with that. Olympus basically perfected this category of camera, so keeping it alive with a new iteration of the same is nice. I am still using my TG-5 - should it ever break down I will try to find another used TG-5 or TG-6 at a good price and if I cannot find one, I can always buy the more expensive TG-7 if I have to.
The reason I never bought a TG-6, and won't buy the TG-7, is the lack of an EVF. I find LCD screens in intense sunlight very difficult to see and compose with, and this is a camera that is going to be used outdoors in intense sunlight. It's a shame, as I'd love to have one of these to take places where I won't risk my OM-1. Perhaps a future TG-8 will add EVF.
An almost copy of the TG-6 and releasing a summer camera in September is a feat... After the OM5 in the EM5 III body and a macro lens for 1500 euros, we wonder where OMDS is going. Fortunately, Panasonic is reviving interest in the micro 4/3 with the G9 II, hoping that it will soon release a more compact device with these improved features.
@@ForsgardPeter So much the better for OMDS and its shareholders, but they do not meet demand outside of a niche for big budgets in the wildlife and macro. This was not the philosophy nor the advantages of the micro 4/3: compactness, lightness, affordable cost.
I don't see this as a summer camera, quite the opposite in fact. Compact cameras which have now been almost completely superceded by smartphones could be considered summer cameras.
@@caw25sha Going to the beach or in the water with a camera is for a large audience synonymous with summer vacation. Hardly compatible with a smartphone.
I used to have a TG-5 Ended up giving it away Great as a rugged camera but overall I wasn’t impressed It would be nice to see them release a tough series camera with a M43 sensor…. Even if it means having a fixed focal length
I'm very clear about the reason for this camera. 1. A very good camera had to be updated due to parts in it being discontinued in world market. 2. The technology in the camera was really good enough. 3. When releasing the camera with updates internal, its good to do some relevant feature updates as well. And they did. 4. The camera has sold good with its "only" 12 mp for a long time and does still. The tech in it is still very complex and complete update in everything is not worth loosing the profit, despite its not 100 mp stacked with 20 times zoom and m43 sensor. The camera is made for what its made fore. 5. Price range of this type of camera will in these war and infaltion times not accept much expensier tech update. Its better to wait a year or two more. 6. It's gonna sell well for next year or two. By that, i dont see the big complaining from all those people as fair. I was disappointed by the OM-5 too, but only because all the wrong rumours that made me think it would have the stacked sensor. But now I have it professionally at my job, and it wins over Nikon D850 and Sony 7R3 any time i use it except for some film making where the Sony still has better hardware (usb-C, headphone for example). But he OM-5 is so super in whats it made for. I don't need better camera except for USB-C and battery capacity. I don't have the TG-5,6,7 ot similar, but I have seen how happy users are with the camera models. GOOD ENOUGH THEN, - DON'T COMPLAIN i say to all those boring complainers. Complains hurts OMDS future, and all our future with compact camera gears. Thank you Peter for sticking up with OMDS. I agree with you, the cameras are good enough. The only thing i am hoping for is a new OM-2 with bigger like 30 mp non stacked sensor and the rest as OM-1. And they are sibbelings with different user groups. OM-2 for those who want megapixels and video centric, and OM-1 for the ones who wants speed, photo quality and durability in nature centric.
There is no real meaningful difference between the TG-6 and TG-7 ...except the price! I was really hoping for a better sensor and/or lens. And to allow a full selection of F-stops would have been good.
Is there any feature or other update compared to the tg-6? Looks more like a minor update. I may consider changing from my old panasonic FT-4 to a more recent TG. (mainly due to missing raw feature of the panasonic)
I had 3 Olympus TG and still have one TG cameras, used just for holidays and trekking, and to be honest, they are just OK, tough definitively, easy to use YES but just more than average image quality , I have an entry level Fujifilm XP, twice cheaper and the image quality is at least equivalent and better underwater. I want to say I'm an big Olympus fan (+ Canon, Panasonic) since the OM2SP (film), and had, since I started my digital journey with Olympus, the E10, E1, E3, E520, 8080CW, OMD-1 MK1->3, OMD-5 1->2 + various point and shot including 3 TGs. And my main complain about TG are no or very low innovation from one generation to the other and so-so image quality. And to be honest, not enthusiastic of the new cameras OM System released till now, it's just rebadged models from Olympus with a few marketing add-ons, therefore my next camera will not be an OM System, I tested the OM-1 and except some minor improvements, it's an OMD-1 MKIII with a more AF options + AF often a little less accurate than the OMD-1. The Panasonic G9II when released will be my next camera.
the image quality is the most important feature of any camera. Yes it is tough and water proof but what it does should be the most important thing. I wish your review had more samples
Most cameras have image quality that is good enough. I value the usability quite a bit. It is always hard to get enough images when testing cameras for a short time.
Except 4k video, absolutely no enhancement compare to my "old" 8 years faithful Tg4, I wished 20M sensor and better sensitivity and a manual mode also for focus (especially for video). Olympus fails its goal...
@@ForsgardPeter I was hoping that it will happen with TG-6, now TG-7, probably it will never happen if they don't have a real competition in that area. The camera is by far superior and I don't know if there are any other rugged cameras right now, what happened with Nikon and Ricoh?
Changing the sensor size would change the camera size and they would lose the accessories compatibility. Also the Macro capabilities would be affected.
@@TITAOSTEIN Yes, but you will have great image quality overall that can attract more users. How many generations of DSLR/MILC cameras keep the same accessories with every generation. Maybe you can have a battery grip working with two generations of cameras or 2-3 different models and that's it. How many phones are compatible with cases every generation? It's great if they can make it compatible, but this shouldn't be a stop-gap for evolving the system.
@@AnastasTarpanovabsolutely. I’m just trying to find the OMDS reasons. I think they have a lot of parts for free, from the Olympus Era. They need to use those parts in order to make Money. I really hope that JIP will allow more development and freedom. But it is hard to say…
This is a massive fail by OM systems. TG-6 also has the light ring capability, and can focus on dust on the lens filter. The TG7 is a re-badged TG6. So disappointed. So totally disappointed. Pure laziness from OM systems. Anyway, at least I am not tempted to spend money on it, I will keep my TG6. Such a pity they didn't increase the sensor size. Anyone know if they got rid of the recording time limits or video cropping? Those are a pain on the TG6.
I do not think it is a massive fail. Tough cameras sell quite well and this will attract some new buyers. This launch wuill increase also the sale of TG-6. About G9II. It is a great camera I am sure. The video features are impressive. OM-1 was launched in February, 2022. It is a year and a half ago. Looking at the specs I would say that OM-1 is still better for photography, at least for the genre it is meant for. G9II is a lot better in video and that is the area OMDS should improve.
Since I don't have a camera now, I'll buy my wife and myself a TG-7 each, for fun photography now, and an OM-1 II each for serious photography. Rebadged or not, this is what's available in Cape Town. Panasonic disinvested and left, and all TG-6 are sold out nationwide, as are the OM-1 I's.
I am disappointed with TG7... I expected something better than same specs with my 2017 TG5. The video is still 4k30p... it can't replace go pro or dji action with such mediocre video. I hoped for a bigger sensor like 1/1.7 and better video specs. We are stuck in 2017 specs.
Get tg-6 instead, and don't waste your money on this fake copy! I was seriously disappointed! Still no manual mode. And still the same sensor. Oms did it again. Ruined the almighty Olympus, by giving us fake copy. We were expecting manual mode. 16 or 20mp sensor. Built-in ring flash for the macro.
@@ForsgardPeterit's a rebranded tg-6. That's why it's fake. The new scenarios could be added to the tg-6 by firmware. So they only added a little bit better depth protection to the camera. If it was a real olympus, it would be an upgrade. Not just a rename.
Two things, first yes it is always a good thing if the upgrade is big. Nowadays most upgrades are quite small, the technology has not progressed that much. A new sensor would not had made a big difference. I do not think it would have been any difference if it was Olympus. The staff is basically the same, only smaller.
@@ForsgardPeterolympus knew that people wanted manual mode on the camera. And they would probably have given it to us. And instead of making a new model, they could have given the tg-6 a firmware update to get the "new" scenes. Oms is not listening to the people, sadly. They even stole 10mm from the original olympus macro lens, with the same specs. Om-1 was robbed from a battery charger, so people are forced to spend even more money unless they want to occupy the camera to charge. If given the voice to the people, we would have picked a charger over 2 years extra warranty. Which btw still costs money to get gear repaired. At least in Denmark.
Glad Olympus has continued with these; I always carry one in the front pocket of my bag. Started in the early 90s with an Olympus Mju then in 2004 my first digital camera a Mju 200 until replacing that with a TG-3 which died 2yrs ago and replaced by a TG-6. I always carry it as a back up camera. Mostly I will carry a normal camera with a prime lens and the Mju will provide a zoom if needed. I remember going on holiday and haviong trouble with my Nikon DSLR on the first day and then used the Mju for the rest of the holiday and it was fantastic. Returning home I dumped the Nikon and bought a Panasonic GX7 with 14-140mm for holidays and an Olympus 17mm f1.8. It was the end of SLRs for me. I have now moved on to my Sony A7II but still keep a Mju for all occasions. Mjus are just unique, nothing else like them; lots of fun ;-)
And I always have my (now second) Stylus 1s as my go to compact camera. It's not durable like Though, but it's a hell of a good camera still. And I love it. I also use OM-1, and OM-5. But Stylus 1s I love. I do understand your thing about Mju and TG.
Great video, Peter! I like how durable these cameras are but I am a bit disappointed they didn't add anything really new over the TG-6. It would've been really nice if they were able to update the lens a bit and maybe have used a new sensor. It didn't even have to be a bigger sensor just an updated sensor in general. I know the smaller sensor keeps it small and gives it the ability to focus closer. But jeez this has been the same sensor and lens combination since the TG-5 (maybe even longer honestly). Or at least sell this camera with ALL the accessories. That would make the camera worth buying over the older models.
I get the feeling that OMDS are just updating some of the existing cameras from Olympus to move ahead with the rebranding as old Olympus stock runs out, and also give the market something new talk about, rather than not releasing anything. This extra time gives the R&D department breathing room to work on something spectacular. OMDS have really been only going for a couple of years and it takes a long time to develop something brand new, even if they are still working with a lot of the old Olympus staff. I suspect that when something really new comes out it will be pretty spectacular. I know lots are waiting for a new Pen F. Personally, I'm glad it came out now as I was about to buy a TG-6.
@@chrispatmore8944 this makes a LOT of sense. You’re right even if they are with the original staff it is a new company and new things take time .
@@chrispatmore8944 I very much agree with you views. OMDS hit it out of the park with the OM-1, and we know the OM-5 will need updating by the end of 2024 if only to replace the microUSB with a USB-C port as required by the EU, and they still need to do something with the E-M10 series. I'm OK with them making careful but strategic steps. But, putting what they have done so far into context, they have three cameras with the OM System label that are truly weather hardened and adventure capable.
Good points here. OMDS is basically a start-up in a way. It is quite small company. OM-5 do not need to be upgraded. You can sell cameras without USB-C after 31.12.2024. The regulation is for new equipment. The cycle for 5-cameras has been about 3-4 years. I would expect upgraded OM-5 not until late spring 2024 or even August 2024.
@@ForsgardPeterPeter, living in the US I wasn't aware that the EU USB-C mandate would allow existing equipment to be grandfathered in. That's great news for OMDS because, as you said, the OM-5 is good for several years, and now OMDS can put their money and energy into other products. The good thing about "startup" companies is that they typically have much faster decision processes and can react to market conditions faster than large bureaucratic organizations. Thanks.
I have had the TG-6 ever since it came out. It replaced my old TG-830 and was a significant upgrade. It's a great little durable camera for casual shots and I take it with me whenever I am going on a local hike, a beach resort or to a casual get-together where I just want a camera to take a few snapshots i.e. where I am not that worried about maximum image quality and just want something very pocketable. I suppose I could use my phone in the latter occasion but I really don't like the ergonomics of using the phone and prefer an actual camera body. Looking at the TG-7, I do not see anything that would prompt me to upgrade from my TG-6. If they added a viewfinder and a shutter priority option I would snap one up.
I bought it and it is a very interesting Camera for holidays with family and kids. The Macro capabilities are AMAZING. I can leave the camera with my kids with no worries! The camera is like a tank! It is almost impossible to break it! The iQ could (and should) be better, but perfectly usable for holidays pictures!
Thanks. Considering this for our upcoming 2024 vacations. Have you taken underwater-pictures of children? It would be one of my reasons for buying it.
One other amazing feature of this and every TG starting with the TG-3 is the in camera macro focus stacking. It is truly phenomenal. The TG-1 was my first Oly camera and my first point and shoot. I got the TG-3 when they introduced focus stacking and then the TG-4 because it added RAW. The quality and awesomeness of these little gems was a huge factor in my change from Nikon full frame to Olympus - in my case the EM-1 Mk2. I have my TG-4 with me always and will now look at this new version to see if it is worth upgrading in my case.
I bought the original TG-1 for motorcycle travel, then got the TG-4 and next the TG-6. These cameras should not be judged by what they don't have that other cameras do, but rather by what they have and can do that other cameras can not. By that I mean the compact size, and amazing durability. The camera you have with you is the best in the world at moment vs. no camera at all, and the TG series has allowed me to get some amazing shots which might have killed my cell phone. Thanks, Peter.
Nailed it.
I think all the negative comments on this camera are tedious. I'm interested in it.
@@FierceSleepingDog I love mine. You have to understand that it is a small sensor and you will lose some IQ at higher ISOs but modern post processing software is close to magic. It's a fun camera.
Well said.
I bought a TG-5 for my son to use when he goes snorkelling and scuba diving in the Gulf of Oman, he has produced some amazing footage of turtles, whale sharks. sea snakes, etc. I would would be very interested in the TG-7. Great to see you back covering OM Peter.
Very cool!
The tg-6 is a better buy. You pay less, but get the same. Unless of course you go deeper than 10 meters.
A nice enough incremental update. USB-C charging 👍🏻. Keeps the TG current. No need for me to update my TG-5 at all. I’m happy the TG-7 is still there if I ever need to replace what I have sometime in the future.
I'm really tempted here. I have an E-M1 iii, a Pen-F, a E-PL9, a D500, and a D850. This camera is intriguing. Put in your pocket and don't worry if you beat the heck out if it. Very liberating. The rest of my gear gets babied.
I still have a working tg2. I take it on those adventure courses, its been caked in mud numerous times and has been dropped into the ocean where a scuba driver retrieved it. The images are very usable in auto mode. I do wild life photography, so i know how to configure a camera but when the buttons are just mud and the screen is barely visible putting in the correct settings is to difficult. Video does need improvement especially stabilisation, hope it's better on the tg7
Used TG-4 for field work (needed a camera that can be used in dense vegetation without worries of camera breaking down as it will get dirty or wet unavoidably). Much more convenient than using anything bigger plus image quality was sufficient fr my use, so might need to upgrade the old TG-4 to this one. The old camera still works, but it has been reasonably abused so it might “die” some time soon. Macro shots are good with that light diffuser, and like the fact you can sink the camera (if not going deep diving) without any extra housing needed. Also has worked fine in cold temperatures. 😊
Thanks Peter for the update. I really enjoy TG-6 and it is my daughter camera really. She has been using it over a year now and it still runs like a champ since she was 5. In camera charging is so slow on TG-6 so USB-C is a really nice addition. However, these small upgrades (video, construction mode, etc) on TG-7 doesn't justify to pay $150 over TG-6.
As someone who has never owned an Olympus tough camera, this is really interesting. I still occasionally use my Canon G15; this would be something like it, but with added toughness. An extra durable every day carry camera. Shutter speed priority would be an added feature. And a digital ND filter (like the Canon) would be nice, too.
I unfortunately don’t use my 60mm lens anymore bc it’s so easy to do macro with the TG camera.
This looks like the perfect camera for somebody not really wanting to use a phone camera… Excellent video… Thanks for the upload
Thanks.
Ver happy to see these continued to be produced. My tg5 has been to hell and back and taken incredible photos. Hoping there is enough demand for these so we can see a serious upgrade in 3 or 4 years.
Hi Peter! I watched this video with great interest because I have been using a TG5 since its first days replacing the TG4.
I have some comments to offer, particularly for people considering whether to upgrade from a TG5 or TG6, and for those hoping to maximize usability of this model range.
I have found the TG5 to be a great travel camera and also I love to use it on the beach and on rocky shorelines where salt spray and sand are a threat to other equipment. Sometimes I even wade into the water to make "portraits" of waves.
My TG5 has many advantages over an iPhone: it's rugged and has computational functions that are not available on the iPhone, such as focus stacking and pro capture. The TG5's macro capabilities are incredible, and as you point out, the ergonomics allow for unusual shooting positions that are awkward with an iPhone.
So what's not to like? As far as I can tell from the specs, the TG7 lens is unchanged from TG5 and TG6. While the zoom is unique compared to iPhones, people should know that there are some significant image quality issues. At f2, the corners of the image are unacceptably soft at the widest angle setting (25mm full frame equivalent). Fortunately, there is one physical aperture stop, to f2.8, that improves resolution in the corners.(The remaining "aperture" stops are handled by neutral density filters.) But if you like to shoot at the widest angle of view, even stopped down, image quality in the corners is not great. At the other end of the zoom range (100mm full frame equivalent), the image is unacceptably soft and low contrast across the entire area.
If you use the lens in the full frame equivalent range of 35mm to 75mm or so, and keep it stopped down by that one physical aperture, you will be pleased with the image quality. And you will be impressed with the macro images as well.
Thanks for the info. Very valuable.
Interesting. It has two f stops (f2 and f2.8) and smaller apertures are a result of a digital ND filter?
@@rumrill5020 There is one full physical aperture stop and a three stop optical ND filter. So at the 25mm equivalent focal length, the available apertures are f2 (wide open), f2.8 (physical aperture) and f8 (ND filter).
While it may seem odd to only have two physical f-stops and the rest being dealt with by ND filters, stopping down using aperture would probably have introduced some serious diffraction issues, which are not there using ND filters. As the small sensor already has enough depth of field (comparatively speaking, of course), stopping down would possibly ruin more than do good. I use a TG-6 for underwater photography with an optically-triggered external strobe - and if you are using the extremely capable macro abilities the amount of light needed is often such that the control feedback cannot switch the strobe off fast enough - so you get over-exposed images. But, with the ND filters in place, this can be controlled very easily, with great results. I normally use a house dSLR with macro lens underwater, and while the image quality, as such, is better, the small, compact and easy-to-use TG's come very, very close in macro - they have a good reputation for this, and deservedly so.
@@guidoz1747Yep, that’s what I figured, thanks. One reason why I like my Canon G15. At f1.8 it has the equivalent depth of field of around f7-f8. And with digital ND filter is usable in good light.
I am very tempted by this camera. Especially if we go on another cruise. We took one to hawaii and it was a great and handy cam.
Good thing they kept at it, first ever Oly I bought was the TG-6 which didnt last more than three months due to the menu system and that I bought the red one over the black. Three years after that I finally cracked it, with no little thanks to you. Ended up buying a second hand TG-5 this summer, based on the price being right. I am somewhat keen on the TG-7, but that is mostly based on the upgraded screen over the TG-5, but not before it dips in price.
Edit: list of changes below.
I welcome the fact that OMDS is bringing its range to life, of course, but like others here, I wonder about the specific characteristics of this product evolution.
I have noted that the brand name has changed but the other changes seem much more discreet. I'm not saying that OMDS is manipulating us or doing "fake" things; as of today the TG-6 and 7 are available at the exact same price on the OMDS Europe site, so with this new model we gain "for free” the choice of the branding.
I look forward to another more technical article if you have the opportunity to make one.
EDIT: In order to introduce facts (and not just opinions) into the comparison between the TG7 & 6 models, here are the differences according to the public information available on the omsystem site:
Scenes Modes:
22 modes available (was 16)
New modes are: Documents, Indoor, Construction 1/2/3, Slow Shutter
Sequence Shooting:
Improvements of the max numbers of frames in HI and LO modes
High: RAW 46 / JPG: 74 (was Raw: 14 / Jpg: card capacity)
Low: RAW 115 / JPG: card capacity (was: 40 / card capacity)
Others:
Flashs FL-36R, FL-50R, FL-300R are no longer supported (or more likely not advised since hardly available).
Exif 2.3.1 (instead o 2.3)
Reduced languages of UI / UX 18 (was 39)
USB connector: type-C (not specified for TG-6)
Thanks for the list! One tweak for you -- the TG-6 uses a micro-USB connector.
so jpeg sequence shooting in HI mode has become worse?! before it was only stopped by card capacity and not it's at 74?
@@whippedcreampictures according information provided by the marketing people who wrote the notes I've reported YES.
But this is almost certainly PARTIAL info summarized by the marketting dpt, meaning by people who may don't understand any figures or units.
Possibly the limit of 74 applies to image quality which didn't exist on TG-6, while TG-7 settled to the TG-6 resolution will still only be limited by card capability.
Marketting publications* are just to attract customers, not to give precise nor exhaustive information.
I was toying with the idea of a Ricoh GR, but this has given me pause for thought. I know the Ricoh has a bigger sensor, but the portability and cost are my two main criteria. Being this robust probably swing it for me
Ricoh GR is a great camera, but it is a different type. The durability is not nearly as good as it it with TG-7. For street and casual photography Ricoh GR is a grrat camera. If durability is something you do not need, then GR is a better choice.
Bought one with the silicone jacket, light guide, and a 3rd party lens cover. Very nice everyday carry camera. The macro features are very fun.
Enjoy photography with your new TG-7. What do you like to photograph?
I like the macro features. As you are walking around you might see something up close. This camera allows you to get in real tight. The focus stacking feature is really cool. The guide light is key.
I leave it in my car. So when I go to events it's always there, ready to go...no matter what the conditions.
Its ruggedness is important. It liberates you from always worrying about your gear.
Thanks. I very much enjoyed this wonderful video, with the picture in picture ? scenes and cinematographic view of you sitting and explaining.
Glad you enjoyed it.
excellent camera, it’s a pity it’s no different from the tg 6, except for the extra $100 price
There are some diffences that might be usefull for someone. If not then there is no need to get it.
Processor is newer/faster and burst mode has been improved. There are some changes, but they are mostly minor. Sensor might be new.
Do both have Bluetooth, or only the 7?
I don't understand the advantage of this over a GoPro that, although smaller, even has a slightly larger sensor and does 27mp photos and way better video.
Seems macro is the only thing this does better. Am I missing something? 😅
It is about the ergonomics and the the macro of course.
Gopro is a video camera that happens to shoot photos. TG-7 is a photo camera that happens to shoot video.
I use both GoPro's and a TG6 for underwater video and photos, and the use-case of either is vastly different: the GoPro excels at video and wide angle - without strobe triggering it is horrible for underwater photos (due to lack of light you get image noise as the ISO goes up, and without artificial light, lacking colour), and you simply cannot get too close to anything without it being out of focus. The TG's on the other hand are far better for photos because of the flash which can trigger an external ones, and the amazing close-up and macro abilities. Having zoom also makes it a bit more versatile in a certain range - where the GoPro's view is still far too wide even in linear mode. From a video point of view the TG's fall behind: you can always hear the clicking of the autofocus, and the zoom sound is horrible. But, if you want to video a small creature, it does work rather well - and that is something you simply cannot do with a GoPro. So, if I need some wide video, I use the GoPro, if I want photos and macro, the TG.
Thanks for this! It makes a lot more sense to me now! I can see the video vs photo focus and how that translates into meaningful niches for both.
Thanks Peter! Somewhat more of an action camera, but for photographers I think. The focus distance is amazing and the ability to zoom a bit could be fun! For video how is the stabilization?
Nice, but a little expensive for a compact camera.
Yes, it is a bit pricey. The durability is the key and it is not that easy to make a camera that is this durable.
Wonderful Camera! But I believe they could have launched with a slightly larger sensor and offering 4K 60, thus being able to compete better against Top Smartphones. But I'm going to buy one anyway.
I agree about the video. It has always been the weak point for Olympus/OM SYSTEM.
Peter, does new tg7's zoom also creates that noise during recording video as tg6 does?
TG-7 really differentiates itself from the competition with its accessories. Nikon COOLPIX W300 beats it by sheer depth but add the external case on the TG-7 and the TG-7 wins. I like the idea of a Tough camera and I have one digital plus a Nikonos film camera with a couple of lenses purchased in 1983 (which I nicknamed it Drop-Kick after it went flying and tumbling on some rocky ground without a sign of it ever happening - I was on a kayak trip down the Yukon River at the time near Dawson City at the time). Thanks for the information.
I own a tg6 and i use it for underwater macro video and its awesome. one thing i was hoping and waiting for a long time to see on the tg7, was an increase of fps from 30 to 60 for 4k video and maybe 1080 @ 120 fps. Hopefully they will do it next time.
Does it suitable for vlog or live streaming use? As you mention about Gopro and Action, how about compare with Sony ZV1(or similiar camera).
For vlogging why not, but not so sure for Live Streaming.
@@ForsgardPeter I try to use EM5 Mark 3 to do video record, it is blur when I moving/rolling the camera.
So I thinking need another camera to record video when I go out with friends.
TG6 and TG7 are identical sensor and lens, only a rebadged TG6. I will keep using my TG6 .
I really love my TG-5. It’s so practical and versatile. The raw files can be edited just like those from my OM-D cameras and provide excellent quality. But the camera has one unacceptable flaw: when zooming in, the image quality decreases dramatically and is not better than using digital zoom. Has that been improved?
I did not find any problem with the image quality. Of course a small camera and lens the images quality at both ends suffer slightly.
Hi Peter. A problem with the TG5 was that the antireflective coating on the LCD was prone to scratching and wear. Any word from OMDS re whether the TG7's screen is more durable?
I am not sure. It seemed to have less scratches after my abuse that TG-6.
I was hoping they’d do a TG-7. Thanks for the review. You can always just send it my way if you don’t want it.
I have to send back to OMDS. I cannot keep it.
TG7 questions: Does the “Construction Mode” Panorama use the much-improved EM10 IV Panorama UI? What does the Time Lapse exposure normalization look like compared to the TG6?
To be honest I did not test the panorama mode.
Basically, it's still the same camera as the TG-5. Same body, mostly the same controls and features, same lens, same sensor. And there's nothing wrong with that. Olympus basically perfected this category of camera, so keeping it alive with a new iteration of the same is nice. I am still using my TG-5 - should it ever break down I will try to find another used TG-5 or TG-6 at a good price and if I cannot find one, I can always buy the more expensive TG-7 if I have to.
How’s the durability with that front lens element?
I did not see any problems, but I only used it for a very short time.
Thank you for the response, does it affect the weather sealing if you use those accessories? Thanks again
No it does not.
The reason I never bought a TG-6, and won't buy the TG-7, is the lack of an EVF. I find LCD screens in intense sunlight very difficult to see and compose with, and this is a camera that is going to be used outdoors in intense sunlight. It's a shame, as I'd love to have one of these to take places where I won't risk my OM-1. Perhaps a future TG-8 will add EVF.
I also like cameras that have EVF. I recently got a Ricoh GR IIIx and it changed my view a bit. I have shot a lot from the hip.
An almost copy of the TG-6 and releasing a summer camera in September is a feat... After the OM5 in the EM5 III body and a macro lens for 1500 euros, we wonder where OMDS is going. Fortunately, Panasonic is reviving interest in the micro 4/3 with the G9 II, hoping that it will soon release a more compact device with these improved features.
OM SYSTEM is doing fine. They are selling quite well. Especially OM-1 and the 150-400mm F4.5 pro zoom.
@@ForsgardPeter So much the better for OMDS and its shareholders, but they do not meet demand outside of a niche for big budgets in the wildlife and macro. This was not the philosophy nor the advantages of the micro 4/3: compactness, lightness, affordable cost.
It's true that releasing this device in September is quite curious.
I don't see this as a summer camera, quite the opposite in fact. Compact cameras which have now been almost completely superceded by smartphones could be considered summer cameras.
@@caw25sha Going to the beach or in the water with a camera is for a large audience synonymous with summer vacation. Hardly compatible with a smartphone.
I used to have a TG-5
Ended up giving it away
Great as a rugged camera but overall I wasn’t impressed
It would be nice to see them release a tough series camera with a M43 sensor…. Even if it means having a fixed focal length
I'm very clear about the reason for this camera.
1. A very good camera had to be updated due to parts in it being discontinued in world market.
2. The technology in the camera was really good enough.
3. When releasing the camera with updates internal, its good to do some relevant feature updates as well. And they did.
4. The camera has sold good with its "only" 12 mp for a long time and does still. The tech in it is still very complex and complete update in everything is not worth loosing the profit, despite its not 100 mp stacked with 20 times zoom and m43 sensor. The camera is made for what its made fore.
5. Price range of this type of camera will in these war and infaltion times not accept much expensier tech update. Its better to wait a year or two more.
6. It's gonna sell well for next year or two.
By that, i dont see the big complaining from all those people as fair. I was disappointed by the OM-5 too, but only because all the wrong rumours that made me think it would have the stacked sensor. But now I have it professionally at my job, and it wins over Nikon D850 and Sony 7R3 any time i use it except for some film making where the Sony still has better hardware (usb-C, headphone for example). But he OM-5 is so super in whats it made for. I don't need better camera except for USB-C and battery capacity.
I don't have the TG-5,6,7 ot similar, but I have seen how happy users are with the camera models. GOOD ENOUGH THEN, - DON'T COMPLAIN i say to all those boring complainers. Complains hurts OMDS future, and all our future with compact camera gears.
Thank you Peter for sticking up with OMDS. I agree with you, the cameras are good enough. The only thing i am hoping for is a new OM-2 with bigger like 30 mp non stacked sensor and the rest as OM-1. And they are sibbelings with different user groups. OM-2 for those who want megapixels and video centric, and OM-1 for the ones who wants speed, photo quality and durability in nature centric.
Funny, the TG series has a built in GPS. I spend over £2,000 on an OM1 and tthere's a crappy app and no built in GPS???
The app works quite weel tracking the GPS. The only thing is the need to upload the GPS info separately.
Might be a good cycling camera to replace my G7X and RX100 after I drop them on concrete paths
Thanks Peter, yet another interesting video. However, I didn’t get any information on the sensor/file size.
Sorry, it was not much about the basic specs. It is 1/2.33" CMOS, and the image size is 12Mpix.
It's the same as tg-6. Sadly.
OM System TG-7 has a 12.0MP 1/2.3-inch (1/2.3 (6.17 x 4.55 mm) ) sized BSI-CMOS sensor 25-100mm equivalenmt zoom.
There is no real meaningful difference between the TG-6 and TG-7 ...except the price!
I was really hoping for a better sensor and/or lens. And to allow a full selection of F-stops would have been good.
Hello, Does it need a glass screen protector? Thanks.
No, it does not.
Is there any feature or other update compared to the tg-6? Looks more like a minor update. I may consider changing from my old panasonic FT-4 to a more recent TG. (mainly due to missing raw feature of the panasonic)
The upgrade is not that big, but there are some new features that could be handy. If not needed than TG-6 is a good alternative.
@@ForsgardPeter thanks. . Will look for it. Maybe there is an opportunity opening
Can you tell me if you can record 4k video in the macro mode?
Could not find about this. I think it is not possible, but not sure. Sorry that I cannot answer this.
I wish it got a front facing display for selfies.
That would be a great addition. Not sure how the durability would suffer?
@@ForsgardPeter They were able to make the back LCD is durable. I think they can pull it off.
On my abuse it got less scratches than TG-6. Not confirmed if it is actually more durable.
I couldn't find any data on the sensor size.
It is 1/2.33" CMOS, and the image size is 12Mpix.
@@ForsgardPeter Thanks, Peter.
wait for panasonic to come back with their version of tough
When they have relesed the latest underwater camera?
@@ForsgardPeter last time was years ago
You mean FT-30. We will see what the possible FT-40 will be like.
I had 3 Olympus TG and still have one TG cameras, used just for holidays and trekking, and to be honest, they are just OK, tough definitively, easy to use YES but just more than average image quality , I have an entry level Fujifilm XP, twice cheaper and the image quality is at least equivalent and better underwater.
I want to say I'm an big Olympus fan (+ Canon, Panasonic) since the OM2SP (film), and had, since I started my digital journey with Olympus, the E10, E1, E3, E520, 8080CW, OMD-1 MK1->3, OMD-5 1->2 + various point and shot including 3 TGs. And my main complain about TG are no or very low innovation from one generation to the other and so-so image quality.
And to be honest, not enthusiastic of the new cameras OM System released till now, it's just rebadged models from Olympus with a few marketing add-ons, therefore my next camera will not be an OM System, I tested the OM-1 and except some minor improvements, it's an OMD-1 MKIII with a more AF options + AF often a little less accurate than the OMD-1.
The Panasonic G9II when released will be my next camera.
the image quality is the most important feature of any camera. Yes it is tough and water proof but what it does should be the most important thing.
I wish your review had more samples
Most cameras have image quality that is good enough. I value the usability quite a bit. It is always hard to get enough images when testing cameras for a short time.
Kakhi plz!
Except 4k video, absolutely no enhancement compare to my "old" 8 years faithful Tg4, I wished 20M sensor and better sensitivity and a manual mode also for focus (especially for video). Olympus fails its goal...
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I just wished there is a bigger sensor inside. Give me 1" compact with 35mm fixed and I'm done.
Yes, it would not be bad idea to have a one inch sensor in a TG camera.
@@ForsgardPeter I was hoping that it will happen with TG-6, now TG-7, probably it will never happen if they don't have a real competition in that area. The camera is by far superior and I don't know if there are any other rugged cameras right now, what happened with Nikon and Ricoh?
Changing the sensor size would change the camera size and they would lose the accessories compatibility. Also the Macro capabilities would be affected.
@@TITAOSTEIN Yes, but you will have great image quality overall that can attract more users. How many generations of DSLR/MILC cameras keep the same accessories with every generation. Maybe you can have a battery grip working with two generations of cameras or 2-3 different models and that's it.
How many phones are compatible with cases every generation?
It's great if they can make it compatible, but this shouldn't be a stop-gap for evolving the system.
@@AnastasTarpanovabsolutely. I’m just trying to find the OMDS reasons. I think they have a lot of parts for free, from the Olympus Era. They need to use those parts in order to make Money. I really hope that JIP will allow more development and freedom. But it is hard to say…
It's extremely similar to the TG6 sadly
Sensor size
It is 1/2.33" CMOS, and the image size is 12Mpix.
😔 Thank you @@ForsgardPeter
This is a massive fail by OM systems. TG-6 also has the light ring capability, and can focus on dust on the lens filter. The TG7 is a re-badged TG6. So disappointed. So totally disappointed. Pure laziness from OM systems. Anyway, at least I am not tempted to spend money on it, I will keep my TG6. Such a pity they didn't increase the sensor size. Anyone know if they got rid of the recording time limits or video cropping? Those are a pain on the TG6.
It is time for OMDS to wake up to competition from Panasonic with the G9 II.
Massive?
I do not think it is a massive fail. Tough cameras sell quite well and this will attract some new buyers. This launch wuill increase also the sale of TG-6.
About G9II. It is a great camera I am sure. The video features are impressive. OM-1 was launched in February, 2022. It is a year and a half ago. Looking at the specs I would say that OM-1 is still better for photography, at least for the genre it is meant for. G9II is a lot better in video and that is the area OMDS should improve.
Since I don't have a camera now, I'll buy my wife and myself a TG-7 each, for fun photography now, and an OM-1 II each for serious photography. Rebadged or not, this is what's available in Cape Town. Panasonic disinvested and left, and all TG-6 are sold out nationwide, as are the OM-1 I's.
I am disappointed with TG7... I expected something better than same specs with my 2017 TG5. The video is still 4k30p... it can't replace go pro or dji action with such mediocre video. I hoped for a bigger sensor like 1/1.7 and better video specs. We are stuck in 2017 specs.
Video specs has always been the weak point in Olympus/OM SYSTEM.
Pass.
Get tg-6 instead, and don't waste your money on this fake copy! I was seriously disappointed! Still no manual mode. And still the same sensor. Oms did it again. Ruined the almighty Olympus, by giving us fake copy.
We were expecting manual mode. 16 or 20mp sensor. Built-in ring flash for the macro.
TG-6 is still a valid choice. The new features are something that you need or not. It is not a fake copy. Where does that come from?
Fake copy?
@@ForsgardPeterit's a rebranded tg-6. That's why it's fake. The new scenarios could be added to the tg-6 by firmware. So they only added a little bit better depth protection to the camera. If it was a real olympus, it would be an upgrade. Not just a rename.
Two things, first yes it is always a good thing if the upgrade is big. Nowadays most upgrades are quite small, the technology has not progressed that much. A new sensor would not had made a big difference. I do not think it would have been any difference if it was Olympus. The staff is basically the same, only smaller.
@@ForsgardPeterolympus knew that people wanted manual mode on the camera. And they would probably have given it to us. And instead of making a new model, they could have given the tg-6 a firmware update to get the "new" scenes. Oms is not listening to the people, sadly. They even stole 10mm from the original olympus macro lens, with the same specs. Om-1 was robbed from a battery charger, so people are forced to spend even more money unless they want to occupy the camera to charge. If given the voice to the people, we would have picked a charger over 2 years extra warranty.
Which btw still costs money to get gear repaired. At least in Denmark.
Utter pity and cheap move ...I love the camera just that is TG 6-1...come on don't drive Olympus into the ground with empty upgrades