My Rare $400k Abandoned Ferrari 512 BBi - How Bad Is It ?
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- Опубликовано: 14 дек 2020
- With the Ferrari 512 BBi now in the RatCave I take a closer look and start to dig into the car to discover some of the problems and find out just how bad it is.
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Yes on the AMMO NYC Collab! Glad the engine is spinning alright
SPOILER!
Wow way to ruin the fucking video. Guess no point in watching now
If you read the comments before watching the video you don't get to cry about spoilers. People are here to discuss the video. No one to blame about spoilers except yourself
+1 for Ammo collab
Best of the detailing channels.
CLEAN IT NOW!!!!!
Yes - I approve of AMMO NYC. But clean it soon.
No. 1st things 1st cover engine with plastic then start with a base wash follow what ever process but to make sure no water goes down a ripped hose or breather or filter that is ripped. next - air gun out the engine area of everything again be very careful to make sure dirt and debris dont get stuck somewhere.
Nooooo, don't touch it, if AMMO is willing to come over let him do it properly without risking the paint.
Sneak ammo nyc thru your borders
And stop using your other car as a workbench ...
I was thinking same thing looking at it, get that crap off it now.
Change the perished cam belts before you start it, otherwise, when it snaps in the first 2 seconds you will end up with a fancy coffee table
more like as soon as the starter engages!!!! Then it gets really interesting $$$$$$
I’m pretty sure the motor has to come out to replace the cam belts. Not an easy task in your tiny garage.
This happened to my father’s 365 Boxer, It threw a belt on the one bank and damaged the pistons and valves. He actually fixed it himself being a very clever man.
That broken starter motor is your friend, because even the slightest attempt to turn it will strip teeth from the belts. Then you are looking at valves piston and maybe crank bearing shells because the impact can crease one or more.
I love the idea of car snobs dying a little inside when this pulls up to an event looking like that but being fully mechanically sorted. 🤣
Please vacuum all of the crud from around the engine - some if it is going to end up where you don't want it to be.
Came here to say same
Me too I was cringing thinking of all of the dust that’s worked it’s way into the engine......
This....
Me too, plugs back in, rags in the carb bodies, vacuum or air line the muck away.
It’s odd that he didn’t already think to do that. But then he uses the other car as a tool bench: all very messy
I’ve watched many AMMO NYC videos where he cleans cars as dirty as yours. He would be the man with the knowledge and experience to help you.
Larry from AMMO NYC is THE guy for this job!
Would be awesome to see some collaboration between you guys.
Yeah get AMMO NYC to guide you live via Zoom or Skype, directing you how to go about the clean with your camera filming both yourself and Larry on a TV screen in the background 👍
If you want your ferrari to look like new then definetly contact AMMO NYC. Best detailing dude✌️
This. Larry is the man.
When you said clean: Ammo sprung straight to mind.hes amazing
Exactly what I thought
“My other work bench is a Ferrari.”
I think it would be better to clean the engine before disassembling so that you do not get dirt in the ducts and you can better see any cracks
This series/ restoration is going to be epic!
Need some good lockdown material to watch
Yep I’m really hoping for some more content over the Christmas period S
For sure, can't wait!
Need to have Clarkson/Hammond and May show up to Ratarosa's garage :)
Good Work ! 👍👍👍👍
If AmmoNYC can’t make it, how about the “car cleaning guru”?
He is already in England...
Or Gary from the Autoshine channel
This guy is so underprepared for this project - and I'm here for it. Sub'd.
Yup. On both counts.
That is true. If however that engine is good and will fire up with service items and some belts.
He might be able to bring this car back to life.
If the engine needs a rebuild then things will get interesting.
I say good luck to him.
Rare car.
@@stuartd9741 I’m sure he will have to send it off if a rebuild is required, also I think although he isn’t that prepared who really can be when getting a car u know zero about. It will be interesting to see how he gets on. I just hope he doesn’t ruin it, make cheap decisions and keeps it as original as possible.
I’m sure he will have to send it off if a rebuild is required, also I think although he isn’t that prepared who really can be when getting a car u know zero about. It will be interesting to see how he gets on. I just hope he doesn’t ruin it, make cheap decisions and keeps it as original as possible.
@@marcs990 Safest bet is to rebuild that engine not worth the risk. Does look like most components will be reusable just a crank regrind/polish new bearings, re hone the bores, reseat the valves good to go new piston rings.
So far Scott is doing everything right perhaps not the Ferrari way understandable
With what resources he has.
I will give him benefit of the doubt.
He actually making good progress so far.
The only person I know who has a Testarossa as a work bench 😂👍🏼
It's not only a work bench ,,it's a sitting bench too.
Was giving me anxiety when I seen that lol
I don't like detailing and full restoration but rat look and using a testarossa as a bench is also excessive !
Watching that starter moved around on that car made my gut hurt.
This is like given "Action Comics #1" to a five year old, painful to watch.
A V12 rear engined ferrari, absolute nightmare to work on says the whole internet.
Starter motor is in the easiest place I have ever seen😃
its brilliant hey, my Testarossa was in the same place and the most easy starter to work on.
It is a flat 12.
Yes, but you change more often spark plugs than starter, and good luck with that 😂
"If you guys have got a BBi....". Yeah, OK.
I love how he's using another Ferrari as a table.
I was just going to say that .. I think he needs a remote control boxing machine he stands in front of after he does shit like that and we get to click for him to get one bop in the schnoz :)
I cringed when he set the starter on it, but then. . .what do I know!
Hint: I know I wouldn't set a starter on my Toyota tacoma, much less a Ferrari!
That's because he's an inexperienced and unqualified idiot in way too deep over his head.
He should just sell that BB for the sake of the car and its historical significance because he's never going to be able to restore it in his tiny garage with a total lack of necessary tools and equipment.
This is not just a case of it needing a wash and polish like so many fools are suggesting. This car has rust issues and needs to be taken back to bare metal, the rust cut out and holes repaired with new metal, then it needs to be properly resprayed in the period correct paint of the time. I imagine it was painted in a single stage paint, not 2 pack, given its age.
@@historyrepeatscubed726 I bet you this car has less rust than you think, it looks pretty well preserved actually. But it definitely needs a proper looks around ! Taking back to bare metal has no sense, and would probably decrease it's value.
Oh yeah get AMMO in for some advice even if he can't visit.
Hello, fantastic find ! Can't wait the next episode... BB512 Owner Manual says : "When locking the driver's side with the key also the opposite door, passenger's side, will be automatically locked through an electric centralized system"
I'm not a car guy, but I'm really interested in this project. I'm glad this was in my recommendations
Same here....
Same just today
This is a very special car.
Can't believe you were surprised to find fiat bits on your FIAT!
For the love of Enzo, PLEASE vacuum that car! It drives me nutssssss
i'm on an OCD challenge to see how long it takes you all to crack LOL
@@Ratarossa You monster
I agree opening bits of the engine and have all that debris potentially falling into the engine is just nuts. If you do not vacum anything else, vacum the engine and give it a squirt of WD-40 all over. It is so much nicer to work on a semi clean engine and you dont want nature inside the engine.
@@Ratarossa you won
It's not my OCD - it's watching the poor man lying on those carpets working on the electrics. I imaging the lice and fleas crawling over his scalp. The corpses of dead insects decomposing for decades are now on his head. It's horrible. Please at least wear a shower cap.
You use a Ferrari as a work bench wow, I would change the timing belt before attempting to start it ,interesting video.
2nd that , dont take chance
Agree - change all belts ... timing, alternator - the lot ;-)
Am I the only one screaming “Get the f’ing hoover out!” ?
I know, it seems like the work would be much more efficient if you gave the engine bay a quick dry clean. If you drop a bolt or screw, it could disappear into those nooks of crud.
Nope. You’re not alone.
No you're not alone. First thing I'd have done in the engine bay is clear out all the crap before doing anything like removing spark plugs.
Just the interior alone needs doing with all the dog hair all over the place.
I'm really looking forward to these videos.
Please give it a hoover atleast - makes my teeth itch seeing all the debris in the engine bay. Dont get me started on the exterior!
Makes my teeth itch ☺️
I’m from USA. Is every vacuum cleaner a “Hoover”? Because that’s just a brand name. No disrespect intended. I’m just curious about different cultures. Cheers!
@@nickpollay1681 - nah we have loads of different brands but ive always called it a hoover.
@@stuf3804 ok cool man thanks for answering me! I’m absolutely telling my wife this evening to get her ass on the Hoover 🤣😂🤣
@@nickpollay1681
“Im going to hoover the carpet” 🇬🇧
& The name sort of stuck 😬
I want to see AMMO bring this car back to life!
Ignition key: Try buffing the newly cut key edges with a buffing wheel to take off the burrs and round off the sharp edges!! It's worked for me in the past on other locks.
You'd hope that the company who supplied the key did that, it wasn't Timpsons in Sainsbury's lol. Joking, I've had that with keys too. Bit of course Scotchbright pad worked for me.
@@the_useless_photographer Is there an interlock between the transmission and the key? It has to be in neutral to start.
I’m always suspicious when someone says they can’t find the keys . I’d be inclined to get those lock barrels re-pinned and get a different set of keys so the car doesn’t mysteriously disappear one day
For damn sure the first thing I'd do
@@ernestchapman1194 Yeah, but this guy's got no budget AND hopes to keep it original... that pretty much rules out 3K+ for a new ignition.
Restoration Stage 1 - Put it back on the road. Restoration Stage 2 - "Soon, but not today" (repeat everyday).
Lol 😂 😂
By the noise when turning the door key it has central locking
yes i thought exactly the same !
Same
I was actually looking or this comment. You can clearly hear the actuator moving! :-)
Pull that engine and replace seals, gaskets, belts etc.
Hi there I have rebuilt starters and alternators over here in the US for yrs. The Signal post has to be unsoldered, the preload spring, post contact, and cap replaced. The positive on the top lug is supposed to be constant hot, the bottom lug powers the starter motor, andwhen you turn the key the ignition supply’s power to the small post.this energies a coil sucks in the plunger pulling the driver into the flywheel, and the plunger contact connects constant power to the starter motor spinning over the engine to start the car. I would recommend disassembling the starter motor and checking for corrosion. If The armature has been left still due to setting, energizing the starter may caused more damage. Also suggest freeing up any stuck brushes, used a light amount of grease in the bushings/bearings. Not to much tho it will cause premature brush failure due to arcing on the Armature end. Our family owned shop Acme Alternator is here in the United States in Bluefield West Virginia zip 24701. Call me if you decide to rebuild your alternator or starter. Given it is a rare car that I’d like to help you with this. I’ll do it at the cost of parts. Due to personal privacy related issues I prefer not to post my cell information online. I will send it via email once I receive a response back. Thanks and good luck with your find
AmmoNYC, Larry is amazing his attention to detail on another level
Roll the wheels, don't yank on the clamshell 😱
OMG. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE NEVER, NEVER lay anything, especially a starter motor on your dream Ferrari. This series is going to be so much fun.
The BB is epic. As regards the door locks, my 85 308 QV when new did not have remote central locking. The situation was that when you unlocked the drivers door the passenger door was also unlocked via electromagnetic mechanism and the converse occurred. However using the key on the passenger door enabled that door to be locked/unlocked but did not lock or unlock the drivers door as there was no electromagnetic mechanism within the door.
The starter cable might have been disconnected as an anti-theft measure perhaps?
That is the most accessible starter motor i've seen.
Indeed! I wonder how much the dealer would charge for the job? Haha!
I can’t believe how beautiful the seats are still !
It's my first time here, and I cannot stop freaking out about how can be used a Testarossa's body as a workbench. That must be wealth level: GOD. New subscriber here.
Most exciting channel on YT with this project! The number of ads will cover your cost in a hurry!😁 Keep it up the "Ratarossa way"!!!
I would put a complete new solenoid on that starter (especially at FIAT prices) 😉😉
Probably less expensive than buying a Ferrari boot for it .
When you find rare cars such as this - don't sit on the panels, lest your ass dents them...
Before you get carried away and start the engine. Take a look at " startling the 1967 Alfa Spider project for the first time" on you tube.
As soon as you said detail I thought of Ammo. He does some amazing work. Would be cool to see him over here in Blighty.
Good luck with the key.
Don’t you have a nice retro Ferrari Watch for him :D
@@markpronk26 haha. I don’t touch them. Most are cheap quartz movements in a fancy case with the Ferrari badge.
You know this channel is the nuts when richard rawlings is messaging a video... keep up the good work this is going to be epic 🙏🙏🙏👌👌👌👌
The old man told me to tell you that a Ferrari is not a park bench, or a work bench, or whatever else you might be thinking.
He also said to clean it with steel wool, petrol and fire, in that order.
So I just discovered your channel with this series. I hope you can bring this thing back to life. Obliviously I don't know the previous owners situation but I don't know how you can leave such a machine rotting on your driveway. Please give it the love it deserves.
Ammo is your guy!
Scott, great video as always and so glad that you're on the way to getting the keys situation sorted but, for the love of God, get your Henry Hoover out and vacuum up all that crud and dirt from around the engine, the interior etc. You're opening up inspection panels and turning over the engine etc and you've got about 2kg's of filth just sitting on the engine and in the intakes... plus God knows how many spiders, nests etc. Finally.......you could do a lot worse than give the body a decent wash and clean up, not detailing just remove all that green slime ! It's going to be a fantastic car though, just as long as you keep it stock !
Would highly suggest having a fire extinguisher on hand when tested wiring on an old car. The thing could have gone up in flames and burnt the house down. If you have ever been to Pebble Beach you will notice most cars have an extinguisher on hand.
- Buys shiny, stunning BB512
- Drives around like King of the World
- Loves Ferrari life!
- Starter motor breaks, No money to fix
- Two years later, Still loves Ferrari life, Still no money to fix
- 12 years later, Still loves Ferrari life, Realizes probably will never fix
I would pay to watch Larry detail this. I mean I would literally pay to be there...
Please give her a good detail first. I find that a clean and detailed car always tries harder to start :-)
ha ha ha great tip !!
They're much more pleasant to work on too.
19:10 Just casually using a Ferrari as a workbench to repair another ferrari lol
Need more RUclips info in this lock down , loving this channel, never considered it possible to own an old Ferrari. Cheers Glen
Jammie Bugger with the security bolt in the lock! ;) I'd have tried a mobile locksmith for the keys myself.
Forget AMMO - You've got White Details around the corner!
As a veteran European car mechanic, my most pressing concern is the Bosch CIS fuel distributors (heads). They corrode quite easily and are horribly expensive these days. Rescued my share of Mercs with CIS. COSTLY. Love the car!
Just having a car with a V-12 is a gift in itself. I would personally befriend a mechanic in modeno and ask a ton of question. Good luck and I hope you paint it Ferrari Red!
I know for a fact all these videos are going to be great 👍 I'm looking forward to watching all of them !😀
Please show it the hoover before you do anything else! You're gonna have leaves in the crank case soon. Inspirational stuff - keep up the good work.
Absolutely... thanks for saying it... I nearly puked seeing the debris and knowing the plugs had been out.
Ed Bolian needs to get in on this and get this guy on VinWiki with the complete story of this car.
Yes! Seeing you show Larry's comment made my day. I'm sure everyone that knows him would love to see AMMO come over and work his magic. I know how excited he must be! So glad you got this car, Couldn't be in better hands and you're letting the world see. Just perfect 👌🏻
WD-40 is NOT a penetrating oil. Get a real penetrating oil and put that can of WD-40 in the trash. WD stands for Water Displacing
Was surprised that he used WD-40, best choice is Marvel Mystery Oil
I was told 40 years ago at school that it stood for Working Design 40 as the previous 39 designs didn't work. I guess my vehicle maintenance teacher at school was talking bollocks again lol.
@@the_useless_photographer actual definition is: WD-40 is defined as an abbreviation for Water Displacement-40th attempt, a product originally designed to protect space missiles from rusting and corroding.
Once we can travel again, I want to see Larry Kosilla take a crack at cleaning it.
Deal!
See, I commented before I saw that part of the video. Glad Larry is in the loop!
couldn’t be more excited for an Ammo NYC and Ratarosa collaboration!!!
There is only one way. Show up at Ferrari event, then let AMMO have his way, at the show weekend, Rattarosa Bubble Booth. Legend made in real time. Enjoy it whatever you do and thanks for sharing.
BBI does has central locking also has a battery cut off in the frunk drivers side (for the euro cars)
Thank you very much I thought so... I have a cut off switch but mine is located in the panel that covers the battery ....under the spare wheel ???
@@Ratarossa mine has central locking and an alarm system that was aftermarket. The battery has a tender (Ferrari Tender) that comes out by the spare wheel cover so its easy to connect. The cutoff switch is lightly above that almost in the equivalent of the firewall.
I can’t wait for the next episode! Keep up the good work, Scott!
There is no one else you would want detailing this car, than Larry!
Good to see you getting some nice view numbers! You definitely deserve it!!! Have been following Ammo NYC for years, you don't get better than that...As he probably would say "A thousand percent Let's do it"
get a hoover and hover all of those lose bits of leaves ect
No kidding. Clean that engine before you work on it. Your opening up places the dirt will fall into. Not good.
I would pull the plugs and put some marvel mystery oil into the cylinders before rotating the engine also.
@@bidlymovies987 he said he out WD-40 down into each cylinder before attempting to rotate it :)
Just don't let Richard Rawlings ever,ever,ever drive it.😲
Rawlings is a douch punch him in the face if he shows up.
I'd be more concerned about letting him work on it...it would end up bagged, with a lsx engine swap and repainted american money green.
I think the broken starter could be the reason why this car was sat in the first place. He couldn't start, thought it would be an arm and a leg to fix, and just left the damn thing...?!
Great video as usual. Can’t wait for the next in the series and can’t wait to hear this beauty fire up and roar.
Would be great to see Larry Kosilla in the UK working on his staple Ferraris and giving you and the benefit of his consummate knowledge. If Covid intervenes, then maybe he can send over a box of goodies to you and instruct you how to detail such a bad paint job. You could even do a YT live session? Might take a couple of hours but that beats watching the wizard of oz again or would perhaps entertain us during the inevitable lockdown 3.0 in January’21.
Whatever happens, before you start that car, give it a full fluid service and maybe put some of that extra thick engine oil they use straight after engine rebuilds. Also bet the water pump will let go after so long a period of inactivity so watch out for that as well.
Hope it goes well and keep the vids coming pls. 😃
take a good look at the timing belts! at 12' 00" one can see that the timing belt is very bad!!!
Ratta, can you please remove the spider nets and the leaves out of the engine bay? Hate to see all that in there...
Definitely collaborate with AMMO. He's done some mighty fine work!
Wow what a find, Beautiful car.. Cleaning this beast Ammo NYC was my first thought.. And then you popped up his You Tube page.. Can’t wait to see more..
Hell yeah man. I've been watching AMMO do details for a long time.
The Richard Rawlings puns were hilarious.
Tec tip.
In my opinion it is much easier to remove the front bolts of the seat first, because that way when you remove the last one, the seat is in the position to remove it without having to shift it, potentially damaging the carpet or any small plastic pierces on the seat.
The reaction if turning up at a Ferrari event looking like it is? I'd think they would all know about you and this 512 BBi and would be glad to see you and the car!
You’ve got a museum piece sat right there with those miles
I enjoyed this video! The BBi brings back memories of Sammie Hagars “I can’t drive 55” music video. Look forward to the restoration!
Random car talk: In the Rx7 Rotary world, we pour a small bit of ATF fluid into the combustion chambers, roll it over a few, and sit overnight, to help with sitting/siezed/low compression engines.
Just be prepared for your local fire dept to be called from all the smoke you will make for 30mins once it runs. Also do an oil change 50-100miles (kilwonkometers?) later.
That aside, I have to say: Since I was a child, i’ve dreamed of a f355. Over the years of being worn thin as an adult and also being told “you can’t have that”, I have all but completely given up on the dream.
That was until I just discovered your “how to maintain a f355” video and you fired back up my Italian Heritage that I deserve by rightful birthplace. I know I can... I hope one day i can tell you it’s been done.
Thank you.
You're going to need more room! When you pull that Boxer engine out to do the belts (you are going to do the belts right?), you'll not only need to find a place to put it inside, but also find a place to put the rear deck lid too! Best of luck.
The Ammo guys are tops . I’m sure they can bring it back to life
I can only imagine it would be much more joyful to work on once cleaned up!
Trust me its killing me to not washing this !!
Ball pein hammer not a claw hammer, you're not stripping nails from an old pallet. Oh and the first thing you should do is clean the car, you will spot things wrong easier as you're cleaning it. Is that purple part the TDC sensor of the flywheel?
Wow! I have not watched a video by Ammo NY in some time. I remember he had a client with a 288, I believe he went over paint depth detection. Great stuff, excited to see your progress.
Get Larry in on it 😍
I think at least a snow foam would be a great start!! Very satisfying to watch
Ive got some ready
@@Ratarossa stop teasing !
Not sure how far along you are with the motor, but you might want to pull the plugs and scope the cylinders before you turn it over. Put some cylinder lubrication in each one, and drain and change the oil first before starting it. Probably try a band wrench on it and do it manually first. Did this have timing belts or chains? If belts, I would change them first.
On with the video.....
You want to break the algorithm.....BRING IN AMMO.
Every auto enthusiast on the planet will be glued!
And please, for the love of everything holy, do it quickly. Seeing it in such a visual state makes most of us physically ill.
You should really consider trying to cram a few more commercials in.
AMMO NYC is the one for this job! 👍🏻
I love your channel and it's not only to see beat up ferrari coming back to life but also I'm learning more about how to fix it and all the pitfalls. And yes work with Ammo NYC as nobody can clean a car better and detail it to nearly better than new.
You should give Iain Tyrrell a call!... That man has soo much knowledge and experience with classic cars.
I think he would be the right person to get some advice from when it comes to deciding what route to take the restoration.
And Larry (AMMO) would absolutely be the guy for cleaning/detailing.
Best reg.
Micah Elm