WHAT CROP MAKES MORE MONEY?? - Farming Simulator 22
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- Опубликовано: 22 дек 2021
- This test video will find out what crop makes the most money in Farming Simulator 22!
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This is solid gold brother. I've got a pile of notes and numbers scribbled everywhere trying to figure this out as I play. I'm glad I found this channel!
I do know olives are the most disappointing crop I’ve ever tried before. I spent just over $500,000 buying all the necessaries and a good sized orchard. Come harvest I got about 8,000L of olives after mulching, fertilizing, and subsoiling. It was a waste of time in my opinion. I sold all the equipment I bought, and demolished the orchard so I could do something else instead.
Its rather ironically reflective in real world of that crop, its mostly just grown in second and third world countries, particularly Spain and Greece, but even there, its mainly grown to supply local demands, the people growing it are 50% supported by government just to be able to afford running the orchards.
@@SMGJohnI know this isn’t even remotely related to your point but I’m a dickhead so I’m gonna point out that neither Greece nor Spain are second or third world countries.
Those terms are outdated because they’re kinda pointless and american-centric. Third world is what’s now called “developing nations” (which itself is falling out of favor for “Low/Middle Income Countries” or LMIC) and means they’re politically unstable with a low standard of living and an undeveloped industrial base… but it can mean other things to different people, it’s not so much a strict definition as much as a “you know it when you see it” kinda situation. Second world just means “communist” or otherwise not aligned with the US or their Allies.
There’s also 4th and 5th world which are hunter/gatherer tribes with no political ties and small hunter/gatherer tribes with no political ties respectively.
But Greece and Spain are very much first world countries with not only being aligned with the United States but they have a stable political system (relatively), a decent GDP per capita, a founded industrial base etc.
But yea, olives suck amirite
LMAO im not going to read all that but starting your comment with but im a dickhead is funny@@Fetidaf
@@blackthunder8517 meh, it’s honest and is just beating the criticism that’s sure to come my way after going on a tangent about first, second, and third world countries while replying to someone talking about olives.
Not so much surprised, Potatoes and Beets are still the leaders and still simple to get into because you can get the tractor hauled harvesting equipment (though sad we didn't get the Grimme DLC from FS19 in FS22... yet(?)). Towards the end of FS19 series I've always included potatoes and beets in the crop rotation, though not too many fields (1.5million liters of sugarbeets was a major chore - especially with the tractor hauled equipment!!!). The bonus with potatoes is that last years harvest can be this years seed, which is nice. What you seem to be paying for in these numbers is the amount of work you need to put it to get the crop harvested - standard harvester with a draper is relatively easy, and with a low density/high value crop - like soy or canola - you're not running around unloading the harvester every couple of minutes, whereas a crop like potatoes, even at 3m harvest width, you're emptying that sucker every 30seconds!! At least we can now use a worker to unload the crop somewhere!
The big "problem" crops are things like olives, grapes and cotton, as there is no "starter" equipment for a small farm holding - though the same could be levelled at sugar beets & potatoes when you go with a full-sized self-propelled harvester. But I think that with the increased budget of the Farm Manager start, if you go specialist, you could go with these crops as your main, with enough land to realize a decent income.
try playing on a 32x map like me and you will hate potatoes and beets real fast
It just occurred to me - this is ok for seasonal cycles on, because each crop grows once per year. There may be some leverage in crop value for faster growing crops with seasonal cycles off. So with Oats at 4 days and Wheat at 7 days, you have the potential income from oats of +75% of what you calculated over the wheat income.
with seasons grass is amazing because of 1 time seed cost and the multiple harvests
Even with seasons on grass can be cut and turned into silage 3 times a year
I just ran the numbers for seasonal growth off. I’ll makea comment with what I calculated over time.
@@Mazuratwhat numbers did bro get?
the profit per real time is key. for basic large scale farming, soy is nice since its easier to transfer/dump per dollar, load/unload times shorter. using crops to feed animals, then selling, could generate 3x the profit back in FS15
I’m surprised that you’re surprised it’s the root crops for the win. It’s been that way for a few years now. People see the low sale price & don’t think it amounts to much but they forget the yields. I’ve always profited more from root crops than anything else. Unless you do silage in FS17. That was so overpriced it was insane lol.
I thought sugarcane would win like it did in FS19 to be honest lol
@@FarmerCop I got a yield of like 300k worth of sugar beets and got 140k I tried it with soybeans and got like 1 million same amount, what’s the crack with that is it best to cut sugar beets? Or just go with potato’s
@@FarmerCop there was a bug on the case arvestor, it would only get half the yield that if you would do it with the small one row arvestor. So if you donne it with the case, the number might be false. I dont know if they fixed that.
Do not forgett logging in FS 15
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The spreadsheet has two general errors in it though.
1. Seed cost is only calculated on Average price for the Straw grains.
2. Straw is calculated on the crop yield and not the straw yield
3. The grains include the straw yield price into their prices, which
And leaving off the initial cost of the grapes and the olives for the field is a disservice. It is a capital cost, but it allows one to figure how long it takes to "breakeven" on the crops. For example on No Man's Land if one plants Grapes an entire grid width it is basically $21050 per row, and the harvester will be ~60% filled every two rows. Olives cost $26520 per row on the same map and every two rows fills the harvester ~50%. Based upon that it takes about 10 years before Grapes reach a profit and 12 years before Olives make a profit.
Correcting the above two, and then looking at what the average yearly in sheet net profit will be for seasonal (one harvest per year), realistic (max harvest in a nine month "production year"), and 100% (max harvest in a12 month year) results in the following for top three:
1/year: Sugar Beets $11286, Potatoes $10930, Cotton $9888
Realistic: Olives $26917, Oats $20722, Sugar Beets $16379
MAX: Olives $28318, Grapes $25486, Oats $21493
Do a few cotton contracts until the spinnery no longer accepts cotton bales then do a few more.
Tip into the spinnery and the bale won’t be accepted but the contract will still complete, the bales are now yours.
Buy the spinnery and you just started off with a production at full capacity plus how ever many bales you managed to get for free.
Fabric is worth a lot.
If you can buy a Taylor shop and make clothes.$$$$$
Thank you for so much work that went into the video. Very detailed and I appreciate the time you put into it.
thank you. you are the only creator to include cost info in the data.
The xml files can give you an accurate assessment of the profitability of a crop. You can see the seeds per square meter, harvest yield in liters per square meter, and price per liter. Since FS17 I have always planted sugarbeets, potatoes and soybeans in that order when I want a quick profit. Sugarbeets yield 5.78 liters per sq. meter and pay .122 per liter, potatoes yield 4.13 liters per sq. meter and pay .172 per liter while soybeans yield only .45 liters per sq. meter but pay .778 per liter. With potatoes and sugarbeets I usually buy the equipment with cheated money and keep it separate from my farm equipment and assume it is "owned by a contractor" and simply deduct 10% of the harvest income for payment to said contractor.
This is so useful when I'm playing thanks so much!
One other thing that you missed, I don't harvest corn for corn I turn it into silage
Quick fix to your sheet is just change the "Straw" row to "W/O Straw" and put a note at the bottom with Straw prices.
I agree, the sheet is confusing as it is now. Thanks for doing this it was very interesting.
Ok, maybe Im reading it incorrect then. I was thinking that Wheat alone under best price was selling for 11k, but if you also sold the straw along with it, then the total would be around 18k... Am I reading wrong?
Thank you for your dedication in doing these tests.
Have a nice Christmas
Orchards and groves are definitely cool, but I feel that the money isn’t that great even with a production.
A 200k olive grove only makes about 30k per year while you can make 10x that from a simple grass field.
It takes me about an hour to mulch cultivate and spray and harvest olives but only about 10min to fertilize, cut, bale and wrap the grass.
There’s definitely a balancing issue with these crop prices.
thank you for doing this test, very informative.
For the record, grass silage is third place overall. It’s best only by the root crops potatoes and sugar beets.
I did this same research right after the patch came out. Grass silage is the most profitable in the long run, due to never having to reseed.
I have a small grass field and also bale the various meadow grass on my farm, I can usually get 30+ 180cm bales.
Usually end up with atleast 100k.
I don’t do it anymore because It got boring to do the same thing over and over again.
i hate that grass roller, now i just rotate grass with a few possible crops, for some reason the outside of the fields seems to yield the same amount or better than grass fields too.
I have 7 trailers of silage just by cutting and baling the grass around my fields they sell for.close to 300k
grass was always the best way to make money
i run 3 meadows and 1 field, they add up to almost 20 hectares of grass, last season they gave me 1.575.000. All this at medium game level
I was waiting for this one thank u so much
For wheat etc should you not add up what you get from the wheat and straw? Since you get both from the same field? Which would actually make it most profitable. Or do I misunderstand something?
I always wondered which one is best. Although I do like to mix it up so I plant different things.
I would think if you put time in your equation, you will produce different numbers on what is the best crop to plant.
I agree. I believe in one year three rounds of oats to two rounds of soy would make oats the most profitable of your grain crops. With seasons turned off of course.
So much work. Thank you
I just done a sugarbeet harvesting contract. Although sugarbeet yield is huge, it take lots of time to harvest, lots of trips to transport.
My other two soybean harvests contracts are done in one trip.
Great video, what was the actual conclusion to this though? if you would recommend 3 top things to make money with what would you do as your top 3?
Wonder how results would change if you factored in ‘time’ (labor) to produce each crop. Potatoes & sugar beets are time-consuming crops.
Yes but not really the point of the vid i guess
Thanks for this, was wondering what would be the best.
I just started but my progress is very slow like selling the grain just doesnt give me enough what do i do?
Flour Simulator for the win!!!
Heck yea!! Haha
@@FarmerCop lol
is it best to sell flour or make into bread? currently got a multiplayer game going and I want to beat the other haha
@@Metal00m I was wondering that to
@@Metal00m bread is obviously more money than flour but you get a lot of flour, especially from oats and it processes a lot faster than bread, best thing to do is give bread and flour a test see which you benefit more from
I know I’m a little late to the party, but I have a question. What difficulty was this test done with? I’m just curious because I just sold soybeans for over 4k per 1000 liters but the spreadsheet says the best price is 2782. Just curious.
*edit* disregard that, you answered my question at the end of the video lol
Please do a video listing the equipment needed for each crop from origin to harvest, including transportation, etc.
No
@@kevthegymdude3043 the question wasn't directed to you.
Olives are fourth but they require way too much in equipments, so you begin to make profits after many years.
You update C5 in spreadsheet and F4 changes value... 10 points :D
Love the video but there is still one more level you need to consider. What planting without seasons on would net you. For example, you can plant oats 3 times a year so you should do another column and take the profit times 3 to get what you can make in a year. The same thing for cotton. You can plant cotton 1.25 times a year. This will show you that things such as oats will make you more money. Keep up the great content , love your videos
^^this!! I have been emphasizing this point on every video I see of people testing for the “most profitable crop.” If something makes less money but you can harvest it more frequently it makes a big difference in the long run!
I intentionally did not count that, thats why the growth time in months is on the spresdsheet, that way you can do the math any which way you want to find out what you want to know
@@FarmerCop exactly!
Some people don't play with seasons so counting that isn't a necessary data point
@@Lysdexis my point exactly!!! If you don’t play with seasons then you can plant oats 3 times a year as opposed to cotton that can only be done 1.25 times in a years time. You make more money by planting oats. Even if you don’t have seasons it still takes 8 months to grow and harvest cotton and 4 months to grow and harvest oats
11:00 And best adjusted for growth time?
You can plant 2 oats in almost same time as 1 sugarbeat.. THus you get more from oats than sugarbeets.
Very true
You could actually get the crop yield per square unit (meter?) if you go to each corner of the field and look in the lower left hand corner at the coordinate system. Each corner will give its x and y position so then you can see how big the field is.
I found the acres of a a couple of fields in elmcreek before giving up. Field 51 is almost a perfect 3 acres.
There's a mod for field info which gives you all of this and more, including how much fertilizer and lime it takes for each field.
It's definitely sunlight. Large Solar Collectors will have you a millionaire in a couple of hours of starting a new game if done correctly.
I'm really interested in the cost of profit vs the equipment needed and how long it'll take you to make up the difference. Like the cost of the vines, harvester and special trailer for grapes and so on.
100% agree on this. Beets and potatoes look like a winner until you spend 500k on a harvester.
Very interesting. I will set up a massive test to include all of this, and also include all the production chains. I'll get you the link as soon as I'm finished.
can someone explain crop price ie: ton = short , long or eu
Good stuff cop
How about a similar test between grass sillage and chaf sillage?
Yes please. Grass vs corn in particular and whether the increase in storage offsets the cost of the forage harvesters.
I don't even want to know how long this took you to do up. I'm guessing you did the tests over a period of days and not just in one sitting? Great info to have though.
I have another test for ya to do: which crop gets you the biggest paycheck for doing silage? I'm pretty sure that foraging corn for silage is worth more than just grass, but I'm not an expert on that yet. But would be nice to know which crop is best to use for silage
Corn gives bigger yield per field but you can cut grass like 2-3 times a year soo you get more silage via grass
Hi Farmer Cop,
Are you noticing a difference in vehicle maintenance based on months or hours owned/used or is it a flat rate of degradation per hour of use?
I'll test this tonight and let you know the result!
So, sugarbeets on F9?
For the time commitment soy seems to be the best if you turn seasons off. Barley oats and wheat seem to be the best with seasons if you bale the straw.
Don't forget grass. 1 time seed cost and multiple harvests a year will probably make it the best to run on seasons for fast money.
It looks to me that the grains actually out preformed the sugar beats and potatoes when you add in the sale of the straw that they produce.
The total for straw plus grains sold on the spreadsheet is the larger number listed, they did make less than beets and potatoes when added
@@FarmerCop Oh, gotcha. I must have missed that part. Thanks for doing all of these tests you're doing!
I did the same. I thought , for wheat for example, 11k was for the sale of the wheat crop only, plus an additional 7k for the sale of the straw. Giving a total of 18k for selling the wheat AND straw at the "best" price.
Now i wonder once you take production chains into account what is worth doing. Final outputs vs selling the inputs raw.
Probably cotton, since it goes from cotton to cloth to clothes without needing anything else. For sugar beets, its first sugar and than cakes, but you'll need flour, butter, milk, eggs and strawberries.
@@JorgenKremer Yeah. Turns out, if you do contracts for cotton, eventually the spinnery 'fills', and won't take any more product. If you own the fabric shop, you can just take it there for yourself and make fabric from the contract work. Loads of easy money there.
Clothes are pretty good money too!
I'm curious about sugar beet. Is that price the cut beet sale price or just raw crop?
Just the raw crop price
Could you please try it with the "small" harvester for sugarcane harvester?, I have found that the self-propelled one is bugged. it gives a much lover yield than the 1m one
I think what happened is the wheels of the tractor crushed The beets after you remove the foliage. So just turn off crop destruction and you should be good
I did wonder that, may bump up the yield a bit
Nice on 60k
...and then run those beets through the Ruby 2000 and multiply your income by 1.5 times!
...slightly on-topic, I hope. : )
Is there a way to view more than 5 months of finances (revenue, costs, etc.) in-game? I am interested in seeing at least 1 year back, if not more, and the "Finances" screen only shows 5 months. Perhaps there is a mod that keeps track of this?
Just wondering. Thanks!
I wish there was but sadly there isnt.
Very good video, but i wonder about poplar. Is it overlooked bcs its simply bad?
Its not the best profut maker in my experience and seems to be s lot of work for little reward
@@FarmerCop yes I tried it out and took many hours of harvesting and not good prices. Plus the animation for harvesting with the biobaler is whacky.
What about grass?
Or corn silage?
Have you considered doing some of your videos with time lapse and narrating over it? Might be a better way to present it so instead of taking a while to talk about what you're going to do, then skipping past actually doing it, we can watch you as you talk about it in time lapse.
Did you do a price per month so that we could get max value per year?
Just take the values I have in the video and divide by 12
I don't know if the game changed prices or thus is wrong but sugar beets are almost worthless. Only worth about 500 dollars per litre. That doest add up to much. Cotton is 4000
You get SO many sugarbeets compared to cotton that they end up being worth a lot since the yield is so high whereas cotton has a low yield but is worth more
Is anyone that play on console that some mods don't show up on your game file
But Wheat, Barley and Oats also have straw as a by product, which should make them the most profitable. Also, they have a common harvester header which is a huge save in investment. Let me know what you think.
I calculated straw into my results
@@FarmerCopI swear I posted this comment on a Short which compares like 5 crops and didn't include Straw. You have obviously done the Straw calculations, lol. Nice work.
Edit: the Straw row is the amount you sold the Straw for, right? Then, that should bring the total sale for Wheat, Barley and Oats to ~18k each, making them the most profitable?
Silage is king.. 3 harvests a year alone makes it so..
I believe I'm not the only one missing grass (silage) and corn silage. That was in fs19 money maker
Never the less - video and spreadsheet is fantastic
PS
By any chance - what was the size of this field?
Im not sure the size of the field to be honest and i usually do my silage tests in a separate video :)
You don't need nitrogen for soybeans, they take lime out and turn into nitrogen, and they don't take much lime either
I thought barley was suppose to produce the most straw am I wrong
you forget to calc growth time in, sorghum is way better than soy bcs you can garvest 3 times a year
I intentionally left that out, if you are playing with seasons on this is exactly correct, no seasons on just multiple whatever crop it is by how many harvests you can get
build 2 wind turbine and be afk till morning (rl)
Hi I'm new to the farming simulator games and I'm not sure what map this is can anyone please tell me would love to play on it
This is elmcreek, the base game map :)
Base maps aren't really that fun like other moded maps. I definitely recommend checking out some mods. There are some really good maps with different terrain and field sizes.
I’m playing on green river 22 I love that map
Crops not included:
Popular
Grass
Hay
Silage
When you take into account that you only have to plant it 1 time AND you get 3 harvests a year out of it grass into silage is far and away the most profitable crop.
3 harvests? It grows every 2 months and can be harvested most of the year. Without seasons you'd get 6 harvests per year so pretty decent.
@@PandaMoniumGaming97 I wait for 3 months. You get a higher yield for less work.
Spoiler alert...
@@PandaMoniumGaming97 Does that actually work, with seasons on?
@@PandaMoniumGaming97 you can wait for 2 more months and yield will double. Saves time mowing windrowing and bailing time.
What map are you in?
Elmcreek
I don't think crops can be profitable.
Even if i disable the rolling and lime or dig i still need to buy fertilizer.
There isn't one machine that can collect every crop possible so you try another crop instead of wheat and need another machine.
The wheat is better used to feed 30 chickens in a cheap hen.
I can use some bee hives and some small solar panels.
With grass you could do multiple cuttings for more money but there is no money in grain but that's not very realistic bc in reality there's also no money in potatoes
There is huge money in potato because local governments want you to grow them, there EU programs to pay farmers to grow potatos even if just to throw away, farmers throw away 50% of their harvest in most wealthy countries, this is done to maintain sales prices high, and it makes a lot of sense in a market economy, in a command economy you rather just plant what you need and then for a safety net, like in Soviet Union they went bananas on grains and outproduced the entire world 2 times over, but this was done mostly for export, they maintained safety net with potato, families that owned plot were also allowed to sell their growth to local markets in USSR and countries like Romania and Hungary did similar stuff.
North Korea produces solely for consumption, considering how mountainous it is, very interesting to look at how various countries do it.
Your Sugar Cane yield is drastically lower than the steam link you posted suggests that it should be (sugar cane yield was about double the sugar beet yield per hecta acre). Also, the Wheat, Oat, and Barley rows in your spreadsheet dont subtract the seed cost like all the other rows (not that it makes a huge difference). If you take the time for growth into account on your spreadsheet, Oats have the best $/month ratio only behind potatoes and olives. I Sugar Cane is #1 on the steam link based on the average yield taken from the xml file, but I guess your data was actually tested in game not just pulled from xml, dont know which to trust. I'll stick to my Oats and grass silage rotation though as this did give me reassurance that it is very good and very cheap upfront cost.