Well you are one of the content creators that thinks you can buy accuracy and skill. But hey if you can't consistently shoot 300s might as well look good right?
@@Deer3083 wow... that's aggressive. I just think those stabs are ugly...maybe they'll grow on me but their down there with the new tundras in terms of visual asthetics IMO
Kyle Douglas won his first Vegas with a 900 $ Supra. And any top archer can win Vegas with a third hand 15 years old Conquest 4. Modern target bows are expensive becaus ethey are made in low numbers and because people accept to pay premium for shiny things, but you're not buying accuracy nor talent.
I have a big problem with drawing big weight. I’m at 60 pounds and I’m having to really ream on it to get it back. I have those jumps all the time on my Phase 4, where I’m not in the wall and the string just jumps forward. It’s always super embarrassing for me, but it’s awesome to see someone as professional as you own it. It takes an, in my opinion, enormous amount of self respect to not cut that out and show you’re human just like all of us. You are the definition of just a down to earth guy who loves archery.
As a Mathews fan I have to say Mathews is just out of their minds. $2100 for a aluminum bow?! Kiss my entire ass. Oh, and then you need to buy adapters for your press. Yeah, OKAY.
Exactly. This bow will be a loser for them in terms of sales. Only the prostaff that get them for free will shoot these bows. Brands like Bear and Prime are going to do well with Mathews going off the rails.
@@huntsimple9527dude, Mathews has a cult following that would spend 3k if needed. It will sell just as good as their previous target bows, even at the ridiculous price.
This is just ridiculously overkill from Mathews. $2099, $1000 for a front and back bar? It’s no wonder so many people have switched to Bowtech this last year. I couldn’t afford this bow even if I wanted to.
I love it, you got a sweet bow vise, and you still put it between your legs to mount the weight....old habits die hard. "It's a ton of money, but oh your going to look good." - MFJJ - Put it on a shirt.....we'll buy it. I love the videos. Thanks for coming back to make us a video. A true man of the people.
Awesome video! Could you do more reviews with all the companies current flagship target bows? I’d love to see your review on the Hoyt stratos and PSE dominator duo.
I’ll get some mods. I’d like all of them in my draw length. My bow is being built. I’m watching these in anticipation! I can’t keep up hardly with the bows and tech and all the stuff! Keep it coming! Lol
Mathews is actually reducing the number of customers in the market space that will be interested in their products. They have clearly made a corporate decision to take their products and cost structure the direction of appealing to the very upper end of the market space. That is fine, they have every right to do that. If you have a V3X or Phase 4 - it will hold it's resale value tremendously as from some of what MFJJ says here they are going to really raise the price of their hunting bows too.
@@jackbuendgen389Yeah and when I take my 2009 Elite gt500 and shoot better than they do they get pissed. Mathews shooters are egotistical assholes. Can't just have fun nope. Gotta be a dick measuring contest with them.
There hunting bows are actually mid range priced for flag ship they have jumped up in price but so has every other company there map price is pretty high but what dealers actually sell them for is normally cheaper than hoyt pse
@@jackbuendgen389 For sure. The people who can afford to go to TAC events, of course they are decked out with the top of the line. Going to TAC is like a family summer vacation in terms of cost for most families. It is the other 98% of archers that are excluded and not going to keep chasing these prices.
Absurdly expensive - particularly the stabilisers - but the first Matthews target bow that has excited me for a long time. Now, if someone could just lend me some cash.....
It is basically a bowtech mathews bow with the features of their newest hunting bows. But It is and looks really cool. I would definitely buy the bowtech though. The tunability and shootability is better.
I been saying for a while already, mattews is far better when making things aesthetically appealing( nothing wrong with that), but even far better at advertising. No one comes even close, coming from a mattews guy😎. Sadly for them I switched; it’s not the bow people, practice as much as you can with what you have. If you do, you will be pretty impressed with your self.😎😎😎
Yeah, I get that. But I bet a lot of people said the same thing when compound went from solid limb to split limb, now every bow uses split limbs. If two individual limbs are reliable, then four shouldn't really be any less reliable
if bow manufactures keep on this pace they will put themselves out of business. My 2015 Elite Synergy can do everything a 2024 bow can do and that is harvest big game. crazy!!
@@GarrettOutdoors I upgraded from a few year old budget bowtech. I don’t think it’s head and shoulders over the other top bows but I don’t think the rubber in the limbs is a weak point and I do think the phase 4 is one of the best and quietest bows out.
If they relase an Atlas with the new features and new riser, one extra inch axle to axle and 1/2" less minimum DL I'll buy. Specially if they recover the stone color. Being said that, in therms of adjustability most of brands trample Mathews. But I like a lot how they look with the paralel limbs (this one not that much).
From what I gather, the mods allow you to change the weight but maintain peak efficiency from the limbs, so you could drop the weight down to 50#, but the limb will still load as much energy as it can. You can still turn the bolt to drop the weight, but the bow isn't going to have that tight feel of being fully wound in.
I was going to say 36" ATA might be up my ally... but that this would be worth more than my car when set up lol know way I would be able to afford this bow... just stick with the old Rival Pro
That’s unusual for Mathews to introduce a new bow before November 14. By the way, you are a company man to come back from elk camp to receive a package. Was your rig sitting outside idling waiting for you to finish this review so you could travel 3 hours back to camp?!😂
They will have 100 people complain but it won’t affect them, like every other bow manufacture. I know my shop took atleast 20 orders today for the bow and they’re a smaller shop Mine will be here in 2-4 weeks hopefully 🤞🏼 I’d bet they sold a 500-1000 just today
Bow is estimated to be around 2,8k Euro over here in Europe. And draw length specific modules for every 1/2 inch? This thing will sell itself, for sure! I don't know the exact price you get them from Mathews, but stocking all the modules will cost a shop a minimum of $10k. How much bows do you have to sell just to get even with that?
The UK distributer has them listed at £1495 = approx 1730 Euro. Cheaper than the Stratos and Reckoning G2, which seems a great deal.... or, more likely, we are being ripped off on the others :)
Reflex dictates the amount of pressure it takes you to torque the bow with your hand. The more reflex the less pressure it takes to torque it. Less reflex means less torque.
It costs just under 2900 CAD which is about 200 CAD more than the Hoyt Stratos. I think it looks great, has great technology. i worry you have to stock soooooooo many mods for each bow, depending on who buys it. It seems you must take all the risk and not Mathews. Hardly seems fair.
No, looks more like the Reckoning with the Phase 4 limbs. Usually Mathews uses paralel/post paralel limbs; teh geometry in those ones remind the ones from Bowtech or PSE.
Anyone would pay those prices for a stabilizer is damn crazy!! Mathews makes some great stuff and iv shot mathews for the last 11 years but I refuse to buy any of there accessories the prices are freaking rediculous!!
Is it really innovation? Or just change and gadgetry? Change for the sake of change isn’t all that great an idea. What they currently have is a great platform which they improve year over year meaning bow shops can actually support several years of bows with minimal parts inventory. Most other industries use this business model, look at cars for instance, they don’t completely reinvent each model each year because it doesn’t make sense to do so….why do you want/expect archery companies to reinvent each model year to year? It makes no sense, “obviously”.
Mathews needs to figure out marketing a little better. Granted this is a target setup. I assume they will be loosing a target share of their blue collar and more fiscally responsible individuals. Not taking away that’s sexy and they make stellar products. I’d assume bowtech and hoyt will follow.
I honestly believe the marketing team at Mathews is literally smoking crack. Mathews is the Apple of the archery industry and that's why I hate them and will NEVER use their products again. Their prices are becoming outrageous even for the supposed "innovation" that they offer, and them making you buy into their "ecosystem" of overpriced accessories, parts, and pieces is disgusting.
In 1996, I swore I'd never buy an Apple product when I tried to print homework in college on their Apple computers and could not figure it out. Such a basic task is much easier on other computers.
@@michaelabercrombie5744 Shut up. Anyone who has Abercrombie in their username is barely worth a reply, so be lucky that I graced you with one. What are you like 12 years old?
So has anyone done the math in how many mods a shop would need to stock to cover every single option of DL/DW/let off? Maybe I misunderstand how the switch weight mods work and I'm no math for whiz, but I'm coming up with 195. ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE DIFFERENT MODS.
I literally get in arguments all the time proving Mathew’s and Hoyts are worth the money but at this point you all win on Mathew’s they are out of there mind at this point!
Greed and envy... Matthews knows how to play the game. Sad the way the industry is going... I think I'll stick to buying 2-3 year old flagships off ebay.
@@raphael6488 innovation is minimal year over year and prices go up like 20%. Not to mention, all of the “innovation” is in accessories that cost 300% more than the competition. People like to shoot the most expensive stuff because.. well.. it’s expensive and causes envy. Just a shame that they aren’t coming out with bows that are priced fairly what they are.
Well that's a huge disappointment for me always liked mathews target bows cause they went down to 23.5 dl and up and at a 24 dl that's me out of the picture will have to stick with my trx34 for a while longer
The TRX lineup is everybit as good as these I imagine. Its literally the same tech. A mod system and top hats... Maybe the new one feels different, but feeling is all opinion. I am sure many people will like the TRX feel more. The switchweight is really nice though... aside from that, 8 limb design is silly IMO, proprietary gadgets are useless to me. So what does if offer over the TRX? not a whole lot. You wont shoot any better I can promise you that. Right now, bowtech and elite are on the cutting edge of new technology. Bowtech hit it out of the park. I dont know where else they can go from here... maybe a new riser. OH man, if bowtech made a more paralell limb design with their tech, I would be all over it. The reckoning is a beast, but i cant say im in love with their looks. The TRX is a far nicer looking bow than the reckoning. My dad has the new elite verdict and it tunes like a charm, shoots awesome... and its adjustable... and its just as fast as my TRX... mathews claiming they need to use mods to keep efficiency up is just a bunch of noise. I had a PSE perform x... adjustable draw length and let off.... and it shot 10 FPS faster than my TRX at the same specs... Adjustable cams can be just as fast, and even faster than the mod system. Once you find your desired mod, then it doesnt matter.... luckily I knew I wanted a 28" , 75% mod right away For my 38G2
They’re losing customers left and right due to greed, so to make up for it they become even more greedy and will sell only to the “top tier” financially able people. Geez.
They're draw length mods are usually 1'' longer than actual length, so, if your 28'' you'll probably need a 27'' mod. The bow and stabilizers look cartoonish, also i noticed the bow wants to jump out on the back wall, i hate jumpy bows.
@@michaelcolthart4006 I will 2nd that... usually between 3/8" and 5/8'" .... you can twist the strings to fine tune it to your desired length. My 28" TRX mods run about 28 3/8"
550 for that new stabilizer.. 2099 for the bow. 2650 and you still cant shoot it. This is becoming the rich mans sport. Good rest you're up to 3k. Back bar 3200 ish.. good arrows 3400 good release 3700.. and your still not ready to shoot haha.. still need a peep & D loop. Oh .. and a sight. 3800+ whats the sight you want to run? 3800 dollar bow and a 100 dollar sight lol? Nope.. be another 400 to 1000.. just call it 500. 4300 to 4500 dollars set up. Good luck Mathews good luck shooters. 👍 hopefully you do great things!
My God the price Mathews charges for every single thing is insane.....3 x more than anyone else...I don't get it....even their hunting stuff is crazy! This is a nice bow though...but like always you gotta buy every single adjustment...no I gotta refit my press now too? Ouch
My $5000 bow is getting closer and closer with those carbon bars! Holy smokes that 30” bar is $600 with tax
Well you are one of the content creators that thinks you can buy accuracy and skill. But hey if you can't consistently shoot 300s might as well look good right?
@@Deer3083 Have you considered not being a douche? You don't have to live like this.
@@Deer3083 wow... that's aggressive. I just think those stabs are ugly...maybe they'll grow on me but their down there with the new tundras in terms of visual asthetics IMO
@@Deer3083 that's a little harsh.
Kyle Douglas won his first Vegas with a 900 $ Supra. And any top archer can win Vegas with a third hand 15 years old Conquest 4. Modern target bows are expensive becaus ethey are made in low numbers and because people accept to pay premium for shiny things, but you're not buying accuracy nor talent.
I have a big problem with drawing big weight. I’m at 60 pounds and I’m having to really ream on it to get it back. I have those jumps all the time on my Phase 4, where I’m not in the wall and the string just jumps forward. It’s always super embarrassing for me, but it’s awesome to see someone as professional as you own it. It takes an, in my opinion, enormous amount of self respect to not cut that out and show you’re human just like all of us. You are the definition of just a down to earth guy who loves archery.
This just in. Mathews is now offering a bow press for the low price of $3300
As a Mathews fan I have to say Mathews is just out of their minds. $2100 for a aluminum bow?! Kiss my entire ass. Oh, and then you need to buy adapters for your press. Yeah, OKAY.
not to mention that 30'' bar is $549
Exactly. This bow will be a loser for them in terms of sales. Only the prostaff that get them for free will shoot these bows. Brands like Bear and Prime are going to do well with Mathews going off the rails.
@@huntsimple9527dude, Mathews has a cult following that would spend 3k if needed. It will sell just as good as their previous target bows, even at the ridiculous price.
You get what you pay for commie.
But people will spend that much for a carbon bow made in China
Every review I watch about this bow makes me super excited I bought a Elite Verdict.🎉
The Mathews reckoning 38😜 looks amazing, that bottom cam moving forward on the shot is a feel I really like in a bow.
This is just ridiculously overkill from Mathews. $2099, $1000 for a front and back bar? It’s no wonder so many people have switched to Bowtech this last year. I couldn’t afford this bow even if I wanted to.
Exactly why I didn’t upgrade my bow from last year. Really shouldn’t have upgraded from the Traverse actually.
Funny part bowtech people switched to Mathews 😂 ex. Tim gill
Even if I could I wouldn’t buy it. Corporate greed at its finest…
I love it, you got a sweet bow vise, and you still put it between your legs to mount the weight....old habits die hard.
"It's a ton of money, but oh your going to look good." - MFJJ - Put it on a shirt.....we'll buy it.
I love the videos. Thanks for coming back to make us a video. A true man of the people.
Awesome video! Could you do more reviews with all the companies current flagship target bows? I’d love to see your review on the Hoyt stratos and PSE dominator duo.
Hell yes!!
Have a feeling that bottom clamp riser weight will fit a phase 4..
“It’s a ton of money, but you’re gonna look good” always knew Mathews seeked out idiots with egos 😂😂
AND IT SELLS! The same people wearing $500 t shirts and driving super lifted pavement princesses will flock to good looking bows
I tested it yesterday at my local bow shop... it feels good! I am getting it... without the stabilizers.
I’ll get some mods. I’d like all of them in my draw length. My bow is being built. I’m watching these in anticipation! I can’t keep up hardly with the bows and tech and all the stuff! Keep it coming! Lol
my phase 4 back wall does that same thing to me, I thought I was just going crazy glad to see someone else keeps doing it to. 😂
its the cam...
josh thank you for the content what kind a of target box are you shooting at do you sell it?
Priced it right out of my range. Good job 👍🏼
Mathews is actually reducing the number of customers in the market space that will be interested in their products. They have clearly made a corporate decision to take their products and cost structure the direction of appealing to the very upper end of the market space. That is fine, they have every right to do that. If you have a V3X or Phase 4 - it will hold it's resale value tremendously as from some of what MFJJ says here they are going to really raise the price of their hunting bows too.
maybe we will see them increase the quality of the Mission line as they are currently the least sought after bows on the market IMO
Here's the thing... PEOPLE BUY THEIR SHIT! 😱 Go to a TAC event and you'll see fully decked out Mathews.
@@jackbuendgen389Yeah and when I take my 2009 Elite gt500 and shoot better than they do they get pissed. Mathews shooters are egotistical assholes. Can't just have fun nope. Gotta be a dick measuring contest with them.
There hunting bows are actually mid range priced for flag ship they have jumped up in price but so has every other company there map price is pretty high but what dealers actually sell them for is normally cheaper than hoyt pse
@@jackbuendgen389 For sure. The people who can afford to go to TAC events, of course they are decked out with the top of the line. Going to TAC is like a family summer vacation in terms of cost for most families. It is the other 98% of archers that are excluded and not going to keep chasing these prices.
Would love to see you review the Xpedition bows. Any plans in the works?
Absurdly expensive - particularly the stabilisers - but the first Matthews target bow that has excited me for a long time. Now, if someone could just lend me some cash.....
It is basically a bowtech mathews bow with the features of their newest hunting bows. But It is and looks really cool. I would definitely buy the bowtech though. The tunability and shootability is better.
I been saying for a while already, mattews is far better when making things aesthetically appealing( nothing wrong with that), but even far better at advertising. No one comes even close, coming from a mattews guy😎. Sadly for them I switched; it’s not the bow people, practice as much as you can with what you have. If you do, you will be pretty impressed with your self.😎😎😎
Thanks 👍👍 Great Review
Here in Australia, that bow fully kitted out with Mathews accessories and the new UV sight only about $6500 (Aussie dollars) plus shipping. 🥵
Buy an Athens. Better draw, cheaper, just as good.
I think the reckoning just pulled ahead! Lol
Nope I ordered a title. Lol
Sucker born every day…
8 limbs with rubber in between, no thanks... simplicity is reliability. took a V3X over a Phase4 without hesitation for that exact reason.
Agreed. Why add a possible weak link.
Not saying your wrong but the why is to make it quiet
Yeah, I get that. But I bet a lot of people said the same thing when compound went from solid limb to split limb, now every bow uses split limbs. If two individual limbs are reliable, then four shouldn't really be any less reliable
if bow manufactures keep on this pace they will put themselves out of business. My 2015 Elite Synergy can do everything a 2024 bow can do and that is harvest big game. crazy!!
So can any bow made in the 80s or 90s, same for any recurve or long bow. What is your point.
I hope for this years hunting line up no rubber on the limbs!
Not happening. That is staying for at least another year considering it’s on the target line too
When I shoot my phase 4 with friends they all say wow that’s a quiet bow.
@@forgerat 😂
@@GarrettOutdoors I upgraded from a few year old budget bowtech. I don’t think it’s head and shoulders over the other top bows but I don’t think the rubber in the limbs is a weak point and I do think the phase 4 is one of the best and quietest bows out.
@@GarrettOutdoorsit is very quiet
How does the new grip feel for you? It looks like a better platform than the previous years have been.
You got any insight on when bows will ship to show for customers Thanks
I know this is a Mathews… would you do a video on how to adjust cam lean or shims on a pse levitate?
I would love for you to do a xpedition xlite bow review.
AHHHHHHHHHH I thought I missed it. Now I have to wait.
Let’s see if they do this with the 2024 Atlas.
If they relase an Atlas with the new features and new riser, one extra inch axle to axle and 1/2" less minimum DL I'll buy. Specially if they recover the stone color. Being said that, in therms of adjustability most of brands trample Mathews. But I like a lot how they look with the paralel limbs (this one not that much).
Do they come with their new strings?
Guy sure loves his Matthew’s
I thought the draw weight and draw length and let off is how you adjust that but you can also adjust limb bolts? Is that just for fine tuning?
From what I gather, the mods allow you to change the weight but maintain peak efficiency from the limbs, so you could drop the weight down to 50#, but the limb will still load as much energy as it can. You can still turn the bolt to drop the weight, but the bow isn't going to have that tight feel of being fully wound in.
But maybe someone has asked n I missed it. What are you hunting with this week for your set up??
Is this the only bow review that you added bars too for testing?
I was going to say 36" ATA might be up my ally... but that this would be worth more than my car when set up lol know way I would be able to afford this bow... just stick with the old Rival Pro
How do u get a arrow that light weight for real question cause it's like 450 before its fletcher and inserts idk wht to do is it a certain arrow
Did you use ‘30” mods’ or 29.5” mods due to Mathews typically coming in 1/2” long?
Prices for 2024 are already not trending in the right direction…. What will the Mathews and Hoyt hunting bows cost???
I wish the bigger name companies would have an offering like what Bear did with THP and the Adapt
They have went up about $100 every year for the last several years so im going to say $1399 for aluminum flagship
@@unsupportedultra And the Bear Alaskan also.
@@huntsimple9527 Bear had been a godsend for new hunters and those pinching pennies
That’s unusual for Mathews to introduce a new bow before November 14. By the way, you are a company man to come back from elk camp to receive a package. Was your rig sitting outside idling waiting for you to finish this review so you could travel 3 hours back to camp?!😂
It’s a target bow, that’s been common for some companies to throw that out early.
How much do the stabilizer end caps weigh
So is the Title a continuation of the Phase4?
They will have 100 people complain but it won’t affect them, like every other bow manufacture. I know my shop took atleast 20 orders today for the bow and they’re a smaller shop
Mine will be here in 2-4 weeks hopefully 🤞🏼
I’d bet they sold a 500-1000 just today
Well I guess we all don't go to car shows because we can afford them fun to look at gv mfjj
Man if they can get that 7” brace height and speed in the 36” ata that would be a winner
Suprisingly they did. My husband just chrono'd his. It's a winner.
@@Liz_S702 What were his speeds like with the 36? I think it’d make a great crossover hunting and target bow
How is drow lenght? You didn't measured and we needit because is with module.
Thanks.
If anybody know's please share up.
I get that target guys typically have deep pockets but $600 for a stabalizer put me on my ass a little bit.
They do look pretty cool, though
Bow is estimated to be around 2,8k Euro over here in Europe. And draw length specific modules for every 1/2 inch? This thing will sell itself, for sure! I don't know the exact price you get them from Mathews, but stocking all the modules will cost a shop a minimum of $10k. How much bows do you have to sell just to get even with that?
The UK distributer has them listed at £1495 = approx 1730 Euro. Cheaper than the Stratos and Reckoning G2, which seems a great deal.... or, more likely, we are being ripped off on the others :)
Are the adapters gunna be Mathews branded haha 😂 they are getting ridiculous.
Cool shit ain't cheap
Mfjj..Great video but...what's the hunting rig this year?
Got to love the scammers
I still don't understand the short reflex relevance?
About what axis and pivot points is it affecting?
Reflex dictates the amount of pressure it takes you to torque the bow with your hand. The more reflex the less pressure it takes to torque it. Less reflex means less torque.
It costs just under 2900 CAD which is about
200 CAD more than the Hoyt Stratos. I think it looks great, has great technology. i worry you have to stock soooooooo many mods for each bow, depending on who buys it. It seems you must take all the risk and not Mathews. Hardly seems fair.
My Mathews monster has a very short wall, bad for the shoulders since if you relax it rips your arm off
That riser looks like the TRX riser with the phase 4 limbs???
No, looks more like the Reckoning with the Phase 4 limbs. Usually Mathews uses paralel/post paralel limbs; teh geometry in those ones remind the ones from Bowtech or PSE.
Another $200 price increase from Mathews. What a shock. Have to pay all these pros somehow.
What's 200$ now days?.. let's be real.
@@michaelabercrombie5744 Considering 2/3 of American households cant afford a sudden 400$ expense. 200$ is a lot for "most" actually.
Review the new darton target bows
We have them on order. Patiently awaiting their arrival.
Anyone would pay those prices for a stabilizer is damn crazy!! Mathews makes some great stuff and iv shot mathews for the last 11 years but I refuse to buy any of there accessories the prices are freaking rediculous!!
I hope they really changed things up this year and not just added the new stabilizers
Why?
@@michaelcolthart4006 because inavoation is good ?? Obviously
Is it really innovation? Or just change and gadgetry? Change for the sake of change isn’t all that great an idea. What they currently have is a great platform which they improve year over year meaning bow shops can actually support several years of bows with minimal parts inventory. Most other industries use this business model, look at cars for instance, they don’t completely reinvent each model each year because it doesn’t make sense to do so….why do you want/expect archery companies to reinvent each model year to year? It makes no sense, “obviously”.
Its like Apple started making bows. Thats not a dig, just a marketing and design comparison.
What was the name of Matthew's latest solo cam 3D model? The one that sold the longest and like hot cakes?
Mathews needs to figure out marketing a little better. Granted this is a target setup. I assume they will be loosing a target share of their blue collar and more fiscally responsible individuals. Not taking away that’s sexy and they make stellar products. I’d assume bowtech and hoyt will follow.
In Italy it costs 1.690 euro/dollars, 400 dollars less. The 2.100 dollars is just for Us customers even if is made in US. Incredible isn’i it?
I get inflation, American made means paying people right so cost is higher… but damn as much as I like Mathews it’s rough on the wallet lol
I honestly believe the marketing team at Mathews is literally smoking crack. Mathews is the Apple of the archery industry and that's why I hate them and will NEVER use their products again. Their prices are becoming outrageous even for the supposed "innovation" that they offer, and them making you buy into their "ecosystem" of overpriced accessories, parts, and pieces is disgusting.
In 1996, I swore I'd never buy an Apple product when I tried to print homework in college on their Apple computers and could not figure it out.
Such a basic task is much easier on other computers.
We all see how well Apple has done haven't we...commie.
100% agree with you!!! It’s BS
Very well said.
@@michaelabercrombie5744 Shut up. Anyone who has Abercrombie in their username is barely worth a reply, so be lucky that I graced you with one. What are you like 12 years old?
I keep hearing something ringing every shot you take
So has anyone done the math in how many mods a shop would need to stock to cover every single option of DL/DW/let off? Maybe I misunderstand how the switch weight mods work and I'm no math for whiz, but I'm coming up with 195. ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY FIVE DIFFERENT MODS.
I watched another video and he said in the region of 180
Well yeah. They just want more mathews branded crap to force people to have to buy. This company is for the fucking birds.
What will a 50 pound mod back down to just ten pounds Or hopefully 15
Does the title come with that arrow rest already on the bow?
I literally get in arguments all the time proving Mathew’s and Hoyts are worth the money but at this point you all win on Mathew’s they are out of there mind at this point!
LMFAO 🤣 fuck that price range, especially for a stabilizer
I'm Terrified!! I need them! LMAO!!!!!!!!
I didn’t see a riser length measurement. Anybody know what it is?
Right towards the beginning, 4:30, he called it a 16th of an inch long
so what does mffjj stand for?
$2099- the consumer paying for the contingency money for the tourney winners
Looks like a power ranger bow lol.
Greed and envy... Matthews knows how to play the game. Sad the way the industry is going... I think I'll stick to buying 2-3 year old flagships off ebay.
Why is it sad?
@@raphael6488Certain aspects of the sport are becoming increasingly out of reach for more and more people.
It’s looking more and more like the cell phones. New Apple out, go buy. Lol
Are you a commie?
@@raphael6488 innovation is minimal year over year and prices go up like 20%. Not to mention, all of the “innovation” is in accessories that cost 300% more than the competition. People like to shoot the most expensive stuff because.. well.. it’s expensive and causes envy. Just a shame that they aren’t coming out with bows that are priced fairly what they are.
Holy Balls! Really? Its a bow not a Bentley.. great marketing..
Man I hope the new hunting bows are not that ugly.
Mathews has turned into the rich man’s bow imo
Well that's a huge disappointment for me always liked mathews target bows cause they went down to 23.5 dl and up and at a 24 dl that's me out of the picture will have to stick with my trx34 for a while longer
The TRX lineup is everybit as good as these I imagine. Its literally the same tech. A mod system and top hats... Maybe the new one feels different, but feeling is all opinion. I am sure many people will like the TRX feel more. The switchweight is really nice though... aside from that, 8 limb design is silly IMO, proprietary gadgets are useless to me. So what does if offer over the TRX? not a whole lot. You wont shoot any better I can promise you that. Right now, bowtech and elite are on the cutting edge of new technology. Bowtech hit it out of the park. I dont know where else they can go from here... maybe a new riser. OH man, if bowtech made a more paralell limb design with their tech, I would be all over it. The reckoning is a beast, but i cant say im in love with their looks. The TRX is a far nicer looking bow than the reckoning. My dad has the new elite verdict and it tunes like a charm, shoots awesome... and its adjustable... and its just as fast as my TRX... mathews claiming they need to use mods to keep efficiency up is just a bunch of noise. I had a PSE perform x... adjustable draw length and let off.... and it shot 10 FPS faster than my TRX at the same specs... Adjustable cams can be just as fast, and even faster than the mod system. Once you find your desired mod, then it doesnt matter.... luckily I knew I wanted a 28" , 75% mod right away For my 38G2
Cool white ranger look but......$$$$$$$$
They’re losing customers left and right due to greed, so to make up for it they become even more greedy and will sell only to the “top tier” financially able people. Geez.
They're draw length mods are usually 1'' longer than actual length, so, if your 28'' you'll probably need a 27'' mod. The bow and stabilizers look cartoonish, also i noticed the bow wants to jump out on the back wall, i hate jumpy bows.
.5 inch, not 1 inch.
@@michaelcolthart4006 I will 2nd that... usually between 3/8" and 5/8'" .... you can twist the strings to fine tune it to your desired length. My 28" TRX mods run about 28 3/8"
550 for that new stabilizer.. 2099 for the bow. 2650 and you still cant shoot it. This is becoming the rich mans sport. Good rest you're up to 3k. Back bar 3200 ish.. good arrows 3400 good release 3700.. and your still not ready to shoot haha.. still need a peep & D loop. Oh .. and a sight. 3800+ whats the sight you want to run? 3800 dollar bow and a 100 dollar sight lol? Nope.. be another 400 to 1000.. just call it 500. 4300 to 4500 dollars set up. Good luck Mathews good luck shooters. 👍 hopefully you do great things!
69.9…..nice. Nice
New tac bow?😂
My God the price Mathews charges for every single thing is insane.....3 x more than anyone else...I don't get it....even their hunting stuff is crazy! This is a nice bow though...but like always you gotta buy every single adjustment...no I gotta refit my press now too? Ouch
Mathews realized bowtechs top system was superior huhh?
Mathews is smoking some crack with their stabilizer prices.
That shit looks like the white power ranger 😂😂😂😂
Mathews has lost their minds with this pricing, good looking out Mathews
I’ll stick with Bowtech
Mathews afford us, if you can. smh
$1500 in stabilizes if you shoot a v bar
2000$ for a bow that’s just ridiculous they’re gonna price themselves out of business
They have spent every bit of time making it look good and zero making it easier to tune. What a nightmare for a bow shop to stock such a heap of mods