Who are the Heart Temple? Season 18 Cognitive Mechanics
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Infjs needs to understand the heart temple perspective in order for them to use their Fe effectively.. Heart temple is like the macro version of the mature infj. They responsibly choose who they want to improve and care for and eliminate the things that are cancerous to other people growth which increases their acceptability.
I lit up when you mentioned the first opening song of Bleach. My heart temple passion is music and I recently learned that song on my guitar. The big three shonen anime hold a lot of nostalgia.
Hell yeah!!
My favorite people are Heart Temple because they can focus alot on their loved ones , other temples like mine ( body temple ) we are kinda too eccentric to care , i just hope they improve their TE better , thats all .
Me too. Every time the heart temple help and give to others so that they won’t suffer what they have suffered in the past, my heart trembles tremendously by their self with tears.
Bro you gotta fix your Ti if this work is ought to be deserving a bigger platform (which is what i hope) also a god damn global recognition for this absolutely great work.
But holy moly that Ti shoots in every possibility of narrative that pops up in your consciousness.
That's Ne lol. Get off your high horse when you don't even understand functions
Fascinating. Utterly FASCINATING! Thank you, Chase!
Shxt this is deep af. 🤯 absolutely rocking my world thank you. ☯️
I did enjoy this episode and I did learn a lot. Thank you!!
If loving someone is unfair, i.e. special treatment, and if forced to love everyone it is dead love, or death, then does it also mean that hating someone would be also unfair, or death?
Video starts: 4:40
If you say unfairness happens due to what you can meaningfully contribute, then meaning is what shapes what is fair or unfair, or the way you define what is a meaningful contribution, and acting in line with that, would be considered fair.
I read the Darth Plagueis novel many years ago, and he's an INFP. There's a part in the book where Palpatine (INTJ) says something along the lines that Darth Plagueis had like a benevolent side to him (I am guessing because he's affiliative) and was not meant to be a Sith lord because of this weakness he saw in him. I guess the story makes a lot more sense to me now.
Plagueis seemed very INTJ to me (possibly INTP). I don't think there was a single affiliative bone in his body
i also have a milwaukee top off. im an auto tech.
Interesting video. I suspect much of what you say in this lecture contradicts your criticisms of philosophers as well as mind temple. Assuming what you talk about is true.
Does Fe child need to control what others are passionate about?
Also, what gives heart temple the right to sacrifice others for the
sake of feeling special?
Also, what kind of status is being sought after by sacrificing / enslaving the majority of people
So a select few can feel loved?
Don’t feel obligated to respond , just a few things to consider.
What would you type Homer Simpson and Peter Griffon respectively?
Your test rocks CSJ. Ma INTP friend was like how do I get tested with only 4 question. Me like, they be advancing the science so much.
His test mistyped me, as well as my friends.. 4 questions is hardly enough to account all the nuances of a personality.
@@TheKnightOfVenus Incorrect input, incorrect output. Simple. And yes, the test still rocks. How do you know that the test results you and friends got is wrong; what do you measure that by?
@@pthfnder450 Because I've actively studied my personality type for quite some time. I've taken multiple tests, some over 100 questions.. all comes back INTP. I know the cognitive functions, I know how to type people myself, so I know for a fact what I am.
There is no "wrong input." It's literally four questions.. like come on... it's not NEARLY enough to type a full personality.
That's okay. I'm still of the opinion that you've put in the wrong input. Let me ask you this, do you have an issue with CSJ?
@@pthfnder450 To be fair, I took CS Joseph's test a while ago.. when it was still only 4 questions. I just retook it. It's now 6 questions.
...... still mistyped me.
19:44 That's also what it means to be a tyrant. So how are you better than the commies again?
The body temple is the most narcissistic.
You sound like Nicki Minaj when you get connected to your superego and embrace what you're passionate about which is giving special treatment to what you're passionate about which are your loved ones.
Anti-war lefty INTJ here
18:46
If English is an interest based language, what would be a systematic based language?
It's just my guess so don't get it too seriously.
It can be Arabic. Who knows
I think all are interest 🤔
It could be Arabic, Korean or any I have no idea. Perhaps German since they fuse words together it is quite literal. 🤷
"Life is a form of special treatment" like planet earth itself out of all the planets. Great series!
As far as war goes however, I would advise against going to war at this moment although it is certainly coming (how soon not sure); not out of your notions of affiliative or NF (affiliative is also no man left behind, saving your brothers etc) but rather because it is inopportune...I would only march WITH Israel and no one else...I'm not Israeli so that eliminates all other nations for me and the reason is this: Armageddon is coming. The nations army's will march and turn on "the rider on the white horse" who will destroy them. I don't want to be among the earths army's at that moment. Armageddon isn't a battle of the world as much as it is a battle between the Christ and Anti-christ. In Revelation, the Anti-Christ will march against Israel and be intercepted by the Christ. Having said that, trust nobody who claims to bring peace as now is the time for war (not peace but a sword). Peace and unity is a guise of the evil one to gather to itself so do not be fooled...again, "people think I came to bring peace, but I tell you, not peace but a sword". Only ONE can deliver that to the world which can only happen AFTER the battle. See you on the other side of the 1000 ✌🙏
War has always been a catalyst for change, growth and ultimately, progress.
Peace has always been a breeding ground for stagnation, comfort, decay and entropy.
Choosing war, is the same as choosing life. Even if your war is not against people (flesh and blood), but rather against mindsets and ideas. It's still war, and although the higher the stakes the more effective the war is for growth, so long as your fighting you will grow.
I think it's much simpler. Mind temple = communistic, Heart temple = freedom fighters. When mind temple pushes too much, body temple finances heart temple to go to war for them and over topple the mind temple. Much like east+west coast America is now pushing the capitalists towards Texas too much. Same with WW1+2.
No homo but chase you look so good
Aye 😂
The full beard is his best look
The lighting, camera angle, and sound quality changes make him more interesting to look at. A jawline that could cut diamonds, a brow whose delicate furrows could tell stories for days.
@@y_yy_2844 your message sounds like it came straight from chatgbt 🤣 true though
@@Balaboy144 lol i hope that's a compliment
First, I lied
You and Jab splitting as friends makes sense. He didn't seem all that into it seems it was just passing interest to him because you were interested in it. Se users are good at feigning interest to get your attention and loyalty.
By not having passion in real things do you mean he was into fictional things like anime and video games? He sounds like one those guys who likes to theorise and debate which character in *insert anime* is the strongest.
We are all growing
17:10 is Xi Jinping an istj or some ntj? Based on this video he could be intj
I guess he is an isfj
@@Loveficriticthemost isfj couldn't do the things he does like monitoring for no free speech, make sure no opposition party etc..,
control, informative, Si for sure infp or isfj but, he did say something in Fe-Ti, so ISFJ
the audio is so bad improve it
"Soul temple is the most masculine..."
I STRONGLY disagree...
The heart temple is!
Think about it:
The heart temple is about desire and passion, right? Its basically, "we are doing things my way, or your hitting the highway".
Just look at some examples of what happens when the heart temple takes power in a society.
Nazi gernamy: Hitler (an ENTP) unites a country and sets them ablaze with passion and desire. That country then tries to take over the world to fullfil their vision. Or in other words "excert their will upon the world", much like how the masculine does.
The Fire Nation: literally called "fire nation" and described fire as being energy, passion, desire and life. If thats not heart temple IDK what is... the fire nation wastes no time taking advantage of their temporary advantage from Sozans commet, to subdue much of the world in favor of promoting their own vision.
Vladimir Putin: An INTJ of the heart temple, deciding he aint gonna be pushed arround, and that if anyone is gonna do the pushing, its gonna be him! He attacks Ukraine as a result.
Lee Kuan Yew: a man with dictator like power over Singapore (INTJ) who, instead of using his power for his own comforts, put all his energy towards developing Singapore into the state he dreamed of! He would stop at nothing to achieve it, not caring if the people of Singapore or the international public disagreed with him, he would enforce his will and build the nation he wanted Singapore to be!
Heart temple is clearly the masculine force here...
How was Putin "pushed around"? He is an INTJ sutck in his ISFJ demon - he will get his REVERENCE by "caring about people" (like ISFJs do) but also destroy growing prosperity in Central-Eastern Europe because "those subhumans" are not supposed to grow faster that "superior Russians"(ISFJ demon ENVY)*
I'm a Pole a we - generally speaking - know Russian culture and politics much, much better than people in the West, especially in the US.
This mini-rant by Chase about: "if we were at war we would lose" is a hogwash - a political fiction
Btw - why do you care about "being the most masculine"?
@@piotrnogas8448pov: I'm a female from the Soul temple... I care😮💨
Soul Temple have ESTPs and deadly sin of Wrath.
@@marty2090 so? Heart temple literally bends the universe to its will! There is NOTHING more masculine than that!
Yes, maybe the ESTP is more masculine than any individual type in the heart temple, but the philosophy of the heart temple as a whole is still far more masculine than the Soul Temple's philosophy or the philosophy of the ESTP type even!
I agree. The INTJ personality is the embodiment of true masculine power in my opinion. As an ENTP woman, I have always felt that I have a male soul since I was born, not in a sexual or identity sense but in the way I see life, think, and act. However, I haven't found ways to tap into my true masculine power yet because of the traditional society I was born in (an Asian country), which has forced me to act "like a woman" so my masculinity has long been subdued to the deepest of my unconscious.
You don't understand communism.
Firstly, a stateless, classless and moneyless society is more of an idea than an actual end goal. And striving for it ultimately means giving people equality of opportunity. The only fairness here is ideal, yes, and it's about giving others a bigger chance to make their lives more meaningful. It's incorrect to say this takes that away, let alone that it leads to genocide.
Not only that, you use your giant strawman to draw conclusions without any premise behind them. "If everything's fair then there's nothing to eat"? Not only you assume this out of nothing but also say something empirically false. Currently, we produce enough to feed over 10 billion people. Since we're a little over 8, obviously there's enough for all of us.
And as I can understand, your definition of being heart temple and masculine is being a dictator. You, a member of the temple representing liberty and pursuit of happiness abandon both for the narcissism you yourself admit to have. I don't get it. If you're trying to increase everyone's acceptability for Fe's sake, then "survival of the fittest" is wrong by default. Because it's that fight that's meant to help us all improve, and then further our survival. We were never meant to survive alone. You yourself have admitted this! It's a degree of inconsistency that scares anyone who sees it.
To be honest, I don't think you're okay. Given how this lecture contradicts so much of the helpful things you've been saying, it's like you're having a live breakdown. I think you need help.
A lot to break down here, but just off the bat, let's just make it very clear that you are wrong! Very wrong. Like, I find it impressive how bad your are at this. Anyway, let me explain:
1. "... use your giant strawman to draw conclusions without any premise behind them. 'If everythings fair then there is nothing to eat'?"
Firstly, he didnt draw a false conclusion, he just didnt show you his working. This is basically like if Chase already worked out that "a = 1" on his own, then he comes and tells you, "If a + b = 3 then b = 2". Just hearing the 2nd part ("If a + b = 3 then b = 2") it sound like he is getting to an answer for b without any good reasoning. But that's just because he hasn't explained to you how he worked out a = 1.
But no worries, I can explain it: if everything is fair then no one eats. A few examples of this that shows how fairness and equality, leads to stagnation of progress and death:
- If we treated all life as equal, including plants, then we aren't allowed to eat plants because that would be murder, so one one gets to eat, because we want to be fair to the plants. Everyone ends up dead. Except the plants of course.
- If all people are payed the same and treated the same despite having different levels of capability, and different levels of skill, then those who are most capable of producing food and other resources, wont get as much compensation/resources to keep doing what they are doing, and as a result, less people will produce these resources, resulting in mass stagnation, and in worst case scenario, mass starvation.
- if entrepreneurs who took the risk to start their company, brought everyone and everything together and managed to make a successful company, HAD to get paid the same as their workers... well then no one would want to be entrepreneurs, because you can just get paid the same while taking less risk anyway, so what's the point?
2. "Currently we produce enough to feed 10 billion people", what do you mean "we"? You yourself definitely isnt producing that much! That amount of produce is made by hundreds of millions of individuals worldwide, and each of them need to get paid for what they did, else they would just stop doing it! Do you think they care about giving all that food away to someone somewhere in the world who may or may not be starving? NO! They have their own mouths to feed, and their own pockets to line in order to make sure those mouths stay fed for the forseeable future!
At the same time, even if we DID decide to all share our food evenly around the world, how tf are we gonna transport millions upon millions of tons of food to all the starving regions of the earth, without a shit load of it going bad, or it just costing countries an absolute fortune to get it there? Just doing this would cause even more people to be starving and in need of such aid!
It's just not as simple as "we have enough food on earth to feed 10 billion, therefore all 8 billion of us should be fed".
3. "Your definition or being heart temple and being masculine is being a dictator"
No, being heart temple is about caring about your own desires and passions above all else (Ni)
And being masculine is about being the dominant force!
Yes there have been many masculine heart temple dictators, who enforce their desires onto the populous through their sheer dominant forces. That's not the point tho.
4. The rest or your comment is basically you blabbing on about Chase being a hypocrite and saying he needs help.
Once again your wrong! He is not a hypocrite, and has not contradicted himself at all!
He wants to spread his beliefs and philosophies and is willing to put those who accept them first before those who dont! Nothing wrong with that! Everyone does that to some degree, he's just being honest about it!
He cares about people being able to reach their goals and have successful lives, sure! But that doesnt mean he cares about everyone equally! Obviously he will care more about those closest to him, then thosewho actually listen to him and lastly those outside of his sphere of influence. That's just normal!
Also stop kidding yourself! "Survival or the fittest" can very quickly make everyone acceptable! As those who aren't acceptable, are simply eliminated by not being fit enough! That's not a contradiction at all! Your just viewing it through the lense of your own moral and ethical biases, so it looks like a contradiction to you.
I'm not saying that's chases or my point of view exactly, I'm just pointing out how blatantly clear it is how this could NOT be a contradiction, and yet you choose to see it as one anyway.
@@zile8869 Actually, his conclusion comes from nowhere and you've proven me right.
The problem is not in him not explaining his reasoning. But that the little he does proves him wrong, and here's why:
Nobody said communism means everyone gets paid the same. It's not fair to compensate someone as much as someone else who's produced more.
You bring up people being equal to plants out of nowhere. Argue with me! Not with an imaginary version of something you don't like, please.
And of course you bring up the "risk" of enterpreneurs. You're not talking about the people who have the most money. Those were people who already were at least rich, got a bunch of government grants and then hired a bunch of people to produce for them. You're talking about people not being rewarded for their work under communism as if this wasn't an obvious problem of capitalism.
Also, by "we" I obviously mean humanity. If you don't get it, just ask.
My argument is about compensating those people and that they already produce enough. So no. With fairness, food doesn't disappear. Especially because given how you describe it yourself, it's quite the arbitrary term.
And of course, you make my argument for me. Since they already produce, they should obviously be paid enough to have a decent life, instead of the horrible wages they earn right now.
And how did you assume I don't know the definition of heart temple you've laid out? My criticism was of csj's definition. That he's ready to bend the whole world to his will, which is not the same as preferencial treatment or just being traditionally masculine. There's nothing weaker than needing to subjugate others to get anything. That only shows you're that afraid of being too weak to get it or to aknowledge you need help in order to. I agree being a dictator is not the point.
Also, you didn't even address why I call him a hypocrite. Your response on that was just as meaningless as the rest. Please! You're smart enough to understand what I mean. Stop trying to strawman my arguments!
If those who aren't acceptable get eliminated, "survival of the fittest" doesn't make all of us acceptable. It just excludes those who aren't. And it's the opposite of people building relationships, indeed. If you spend your time casting out unacceptable people, then you stop trying to understand others and accept them as they are. If you say it's nature that does this, you're still wrong. It's one thing to say "survival of the fittest" is part of it, since obviously those who are more adapted to the environment survive more easily. But it's not the most natural law at all, because we've been surviving in groups. It was not about who was the fittest, but in ensuring survival of the tribe through cooperation for that shared interest.
@@someoneRando_
1. When I mentioned the plants and the people getting paid the same, that was not me attacking communism, that was me explaining how FAIRNESS AND EQUALITY can both lead to downfall. What I'm talking about is the philosophy of, "Oh I know I got less done than him, but I put more time and effort in! It's not fair that he gets paid more". Not communism! I think we can all agree communism isnt fair.
2. My point in asking "whose 'we'?" Was not that I didnt know what u meant. OBVIOUSLY u meant humanity. This is what is called a "rhetorical question". Look it up, it will blow your mind.
My point is that there is no "we". Humanity is not a monolith with 1 will that just all cares about the same things! So dont treat it like one! It's made up of many individuals who make individual decisions so saying "we make enough food" is meaningless! Different people own that food, and do what they will with it for different reasons!
3. My point in giving you the defining features of heart temple and masculinity, was to show you that it had nothing to do with what you described (being a dictator). Although dictators often are masculine, and sometimes are heart temple.
And who said Chase and I were speaking about "traditional masculinity"? We are not! We are speaking about TRUE masculinity! If you look at how all cultures over all time who have had clear distinctions betwewn masculine and feminine features, and HOW they have have seen male and masculine features, then there is 1 common thread: the masculine is dominant, while the feminine is submissive.
The ancient Chinese portrayed this clearly and even believed it existed in all things, not just people or animals, with their philosophy of yin and yang. So no, what we are talking about may not be "traditionally masculine" according to modern western philosophy, but it is the true core of masculinity.
4. You and many others like you seem to love calling "strawman phallasy" everytime you dont wanna make a proper argument. You just dismiss everything the other person says with 1 word, "strawman", and call it a day.if that's what u wanna do, then rather just shut the fuck up, cause your embarrassing yourself.
5. 3 things here:
- My point was not that "survival of the fittest" means your should just get rid of everyone who isnt fit enough. That was just a quick example of how it COULD make everyone acceptable, that you conveniently ignored because it goes against your own morals. So u pretended it didnt exist. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying your wrong.
- "if you spend your time casting out people who are unacceptable, then you stop trying to understand others and accept them as who they are"
So? Why the fuck should I care? And also, no! That's not true!
Casting people out for doing the unacceptable shows them exactly what they must do to regain acceptability! If you steal from me, I'm going to cast you out and alienate you! Then you know that if you want to regain acceptance, your should stop stealing, and maybe start giving.
- "it's not the most natural law because we are surviving in groups"
Do you not understand what "survival of the fittest" means? If working together with a group makes you more likely to survive, THEN YOU ARE THE FITTEST! That's what it means! Survival of the fittest mean that those who are most fit and suitable to survive in any particular situation, WILL survive! If that means working with a group, then ao be it! If it means thinking only about yourself, then once again, so be it!
Survival of the fittest literally means, "whatever fucken happens, should happens". That's as natural of a law as you can get!
@@zile8869
Then your examples of fairness and equality are not only unrelated to my comment, they’re also meaningless. If your issue is what those terms mean, then we should have THAT conversation. Especially because my argument was about equality of opportunity. And CSJ’s was that communism was about absolute fairness. So, no. We all can’t agree. If you agree communism is not about absolute fairness, then you’re arguing over nothing. Did you even watch the video?
Since your “we” question was rhetorical, you should learn how to ask rhetorical questions. This one was pointless. A collection of individuals is still a team in this case. Obviously, they’re not just each in their own corner doing their thing. They’re cooperating because giving each person a task makes the team produce more overall. What do you even take issue with here?
And my words don’t describe any monolith. Are you that afraid of having your difference from society being erased by the notion the collective exists? If not, please cut this crap.
You seem to be bellow earth given how the point flies over your head. I agree with the definition of heart temple you gave. It’s CSJ who included bending everyone to his will. That’s dictatorship. One’s will imposed on everyone else.
And TRUE masculinity is a false term. Even terms like dominant and submissive are arbitrary. It’s very submissive to say your woman must orbit around you. You’re basically too weak to lead unless she lives her life around you, gives up her own agency and doesn’t question you.
It’s funny you’re whining about strawmen too. If you’re responding to something the other person doesn’t say, then don’t complain that they accuse you of doing what you’re doing. Stop lying to yourself. At least this time you’re doing it less. Congratulations!
Sure, survival of the fittest doesn’t literally mean “kill the unfit”. But having that attitude only encourages apathy towards those in need just because they weren’t fit. I guess this is a perspective issue, but I don’t want that.
Also, read it again: “if you spend your time…” this means it’s most of what “you” are doing in this case. At least say you’re not interested in only spending time casting others out. Of course, there are generally unacceptable behaviors like stealing. That’s not the point. We have therapy and other sources of rehabilitation to help these people develop better morals and ethics over time, and therefore helping society. This is inclusion. The opposite of casting out.
I also agree that “survival of the fittest” doesn’t necessarily mean no cooperation. But cooperation happens in groups of people who have elderly, disabled and others who certainly aren’t the fittest. So, what makes them that isn’t casting these people out or letting them die, but upholding a common cause that motivates the whole group under a shared sentiment. This is why that term itself is not the most natural law. It’s just part of natural law. Do you understand now?
I’ll admit one last thing. At least I can understand where your argument comes from and admit you’ve still helped me rethink “survival of the fittest” a little. Good job on that part.
@@someoneRando_ look, sommunisms tries to be fair. It fails drastically.
Fair is respect 🫡 I got intj this time around. I wonder if this is correct?
look into socionics, enneagram, and psychosophy, if you were a INTJ(LII or ILI) you would either be a 6 core(social 6), or 5 core(social, sexual, or self preservation), perhaps even an LIE 3 core/7 core.
INTJ stereotypes in csj system is more like an
LIE (TeNi), SP or SO3 FLVE(read syntax of love, the description of FLVE is essentially CSJ's INTJ which is a three core with a focus on vanity.
LII(TiNe) So6, So5 LVEF
ILI(NiTe) So5, Sx5, Sp5 LFEV or LVEF
Ni types are weak/ passive willed, most intuitive types are, LIE is the aggressive willed INTJ that CSJ talks about.