Magic Kingdom's Future: NO FRONTIERLAND, a New Orleans Street, and a Desert Land
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
- In this Mickey Views Special Report, Brayden Holness presents his report on future expansions at Magic Kingdom Park in the Walt Disney World Resort. This includes the rumored RETHEMING of Frontierland into a New Orleans Square-style land incorporating the Tiana's Bayou Adventure ride, a new southwestern desert themed land featuring Big Thunder Mountain as well as Coco and Encanto, and a Villains Land connecting to the Haunted Mansion attraction. This is Mickey Views News, your source for Disney news!
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00:00 Introduction
01:46 Credibility
02:36 Imagineering Changes
05:33 Frontierland RETHEME RUMOR
14:24 NEW Southwestern Land
16:55 Villains Land
19:00 Splash Animatronics REMOVED
21:13 Expansion Rumor Analysis
23:52 Outro
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Coco should be in Epcot at the Mexico pavilion.
They should expand on the original story of Big Thunder and add the mining ride/attraction.
Honestly Epcot is a gold mine for Disney. They could put an attraction in every country.
I appreciate your thoughts and concur - Epcot is my favorite park. It is unique to theme parks in general due to its "informational" theming. I know Florida schools used to take kids there for day trips - but no more (too many changes).
My ideas for Epcot:
1. Restore the Illuminations fireworks (original Disney music, etc.)
2. France: Drop the sing along and restore the film "Impressions de France to all day vs. night only
3. Add a Rhine river boat ride to Germany as originally planned
4. Add another "Soarin" type film to one of the countries that has nothing (i.e. Soarin over United Kingdom, etc.)
5. Guardians is out of place at Epcot - and should have been at another park
6. Japan: Add a film (like Canada, China) or another boat ride
I an interested in your thoughts on these, and what you would do at Epcot
Thanks!
@@kenwbrenner Disney is only interested in IPS nowadays. I’m not sure I agree with that though. There was something nice about great rides/attractions that were not associated with an IP.
If they put a ride in every country, it would likely be from a film.
I’d put a Big Hero 6 ride in Japan.
Epcot is still my favorite park, but it’s not as good as it was in the 1980s. Horizons should never have been torn down. Guardians is out of place there. At least they made it a pavilion from another planet. It used to be so cleverly themed. Different areas of science/technology. A true permanent worlds fair.
Absolutely! I think they should try to actually renovate Epcot since they had a cool plan then got cheap and half assed it then rebuilt what they had and improved like nothing 😂 seems really stupid to me that they are about to do it all over again and still neglect Epcot something universal can and will never have.
It was never supposed to have any IP
@@cyborgasylum7353 Hi. Thank you for taking the time to comment. I like your final statement "a permanent worlds fair" - A good overall description of this (formerly) wonderful park. Hope you have a blessed week ahead...
New Orleans is technically the reason for the Louisiana Purchase, which is the start of American frontier. So I can see how this Frontierland retheming will work. Then BTM according to the backstory was themed in Arizona (west of Louisiana Purchase) which borders Mexico (Coco😉). Farther south of Mexico (Coco) is Columbia (Encanto😉) which is in the jungle. The jungle makes it moody enough to transition into Villains Land.
They need to pay yu
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
So true. Lots of folks don't recall this, but when Splash first opened at MK there was a lot of criticism that it didn't fit into Frontierland.
As a retired theme park Master Planner and Chief Creative Officer, I think Disney should build an all new Frontier Land behind Big Thunder Mountain, complete with a new version of the Country Bear Jamboree and Pecos Bill's. Then they can start New Orleans Square just after the Diamond Horseshoe. That will make Big Thunder Mountain the iconic entrance to Frontier Land (which will feel nicely remote).
This actually makes sense
@@jackslawik1148 which is why they won't do it.
Exactly!!!
Yes and build Western River Expedition behind Big Thunder
That is such a good idea !
That is one thing I will say about you - that so far the predictions I’ve seen come from you have been accurate so I consider you a reliable and good Disney news source.
Understatement of the Decade, "Disneys been such a Mess Lately." P.S. Great Job.
THE MAGIC IS GONE!!!!
@@meganruchwatercolors7186 Nah its just gone because you dont care amymore.
For the past 7 years you have always been my favorite Disney news source. Time after time you’ve continued to be spot on with your sources. I’m not going to be shocked if this gets revealed at destination D23.
I like your ideas in this video. If we had to lose splash mountain, these ideas sound great and exciting to see. Thanks again for all your hard work. Really appreciate it.
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@@stanfordite1 What?! I have heard the somethings from the multiple sources I follow.
@@stanfordite1 What?! Yes there are! How did Lighting Lane get "revealed" before Disney announced it?
I think the whole thing could conceptually be a Rivers of America themed land where it starts with the Charles River representing Boston in Liberty Square, to then becoming the Mississippi River where the northernmost outposts in Minnesota would mesh well with the wooden Frontierland facades, then flowing through Tom Sawyer's Island, then Louisiana in the new New Orleans Square bit, before turning and becoming the Rio Grande for Big Thunder Mountain, which would actually then thematically blend well into a Mexico area for Coco just north of that. This wouldn't require much capital expenditure at all and would be like when you're on the Jungle Cruise and magically go through South America, Africa, and Asia all on one river.
Logistically, the water back there needs to go somewhere in the middle of..... desert land.... perhaps a San Antonio Riverwalk Alamo kind of thing? Just brainstorming. I like your ideas a lot.
You're hired. This makes tremendous sense.
Wow!!!! Thats fantastic!!!!
@@everlastingarms3065 It would make sense to put the river between Coco and Encanto because it was after crossing the river that Abuela gained the magic that protects her family and town when her husband sacrificed himself. Great mountain walls grew up giving them a valley protected from the world beyond
I like your ideas, but then again, removal of the river boat ride would allow bridge access to and through Tom Sawyer Island. It could be re-themed and provide additional access to the envisioned "lands"
Crowd control. If they expand park capacity, will they still funnel all the guests down mainstreet and out to the monorail and boats at night? To me,...this seems like a HUGE bottleneck problem. On busy nights after the fireworks, the heard runs to the only way out of the park then waits in long lines...just to get back to the TTC. Adding these new lands would make the problem much worse. Do you see a "rear-park" bus gate to the TTC? It seems necessary to me to have a "rear gate" bus or even mono track station there. Awesome video Brayden!!!
It would require a new train station to access those far lands... I think REMOVING Frontierland would be unforgivable. But moving to a "New Frontierland" - that I can see! An "Old West" theme as part of a theme park is absolutely essential thanks to Disney, and a huge part of the character. I can see Big Thunder serving as the entrance to a New Frontierland which is itself a connection to two mini-lands for Coco and Encanto. Yes the geography is unrealistic, but, "Adventureland" features where, exactly? It's all fantasy. I can see "Tom Sawyer Island" getting the same sort of generic overlay that the "Adventureland Treehouse" in Disneyland is getting - stripping back the IP for a more general, adventurous theme.
Personally I'd rather see more in the line of "Adventureland" - the land itself not tied to IPs, but the IP-based attractions within it blend well with the overall theme.
Would be great if they could add cable car (like in movie) to share existing trax to get you back to New Orléans section
Rethemeing Frontierland (my fav land where I have many good memories in) is unforgivable. I would not be able to believe that. I would miss it so much 🥺
Agreed.
Agreed
It’s time for change😂😂😂
@@christopherfelipe60 Time to change back to Walt's Dream!
Disneylands is way better anyways
The way that Disney has been over-promising and under-delivering these days, All of these proposed ideas seem far too ambitious. Look at the “Reimagining” of EPCOT, what they proposed compared to what we got will not have me hanging hope on any additional lands seeing the light of day. I’ll believe it when I see it.
yep could do only about half what there had plan because of budgets aka no money, i have a feeling this going to be just p r tried to gen up some buzz before universal open they stunning new park!
@@SHOE53 that was like a tenth of what they announced. Wonders of life is still empty and there are the exact same number of all-ages attractions as when they started. I understand that Magic Kingdom needs capacity but Epcot is woefully underdeveloped for like 25 years, while they built out studios, built animal kingdom, new fantasyland, then avatar, and then Star Wars land. Epcot hasn’t really had any major projects.
Exactly
@@VideoGamePhilosopher Epcot is great but it annoys me how bad they let rides get and now with a toddler it is actually frustrating there. I can buy snacks but my kid will just burn in the sun and get to stand in a long frozen ride ha.
We complain but epcot still is very popular and a high demand place to hangout so maybe not much need to invest there. Hollywood went from short park to a must for many families. AK still needs a Pandora park draw to compete for crowds. In the end, MK is impossible somedays and needs capacity. It needs it so it can close rides and fix them too. It just suffers.
Same!
I’ll ask again. Please tell me why Braden doesn’t have a million subscribers?!? He’s brilliant and always brings us the truth and the scoops. He’s an incredibly great blogger.
I’ll tell you why, Mayb it’s because if you actually see him in the park, say hello, and he looks at you like he could scrape you off the bottom of his shoe. That would b the reason I won’t subscribe. His blogs are very informative, but it seemed on the day we said hi to him, he wasn’t to accepting of his blog watchers.
@@toddheywood8837 Thats bullshit reasoning
I don't see Encanto fitting into any desert (?), but all the rest makes sense, and tbh, even though it would be a dramatic change, it would be a huge enhancement for the park imo. The loop around Rivers of America, and more rides, simply need to exist to spread the crowds. But there's much more to the MK that needs to be done urgently. I mean, look at that Peter Pan untouched since opening day, the empty Alien/Stich theater, a proper theater itself (or even 2 tbh, one in Main Street and another in Storybook Circus would be great)... I really hope they bring a lot of care to the park this time, without excessive budget cuts all the time. It simply needs to be done.
I too am uncertain about removing Frontierland completely. It is quintessential Disney. Hopefully they realize this and theme any Coco & Encanto additions as New Frontierland. Thanks Brayden! Your info is always spot on.
It’s boring that’s why a lot of people don’t know who those bears are
It's disney dude. Less creativity and more 1950's warehouse rides.@@CarolCityCane305
I think the New Orleans themed area doesn’t necessarily have to replace Frontierland and could still part of Frontierland, especially since New Orleans has had a role in the western expansion of the country.
Tokyo Disneyland doesn’t formally have a New Orleans Square, yet the Adventureland area around Pirates of the Caribbean is French Quarter New Orleans themed given that its version of Pirates is almost the same as Disneyland and has a Blue Bayou restaurant too.
If they go through with this, here’s my idea for Tom Sawyer Island. Retheme it to Devil’s Bayou from The Rescuers. Then it could become part of New Orleans Square and would thematically fit within it. Retheme the caves (which are my favorite part of TS Island) to the cave where Penny searches for the Devils Eye diamond and have a simulation of the cave flooding. Could this work or is the Rescuers too outdated as an IP? Thoughts?
You’re hired!
I'd prefer to keep Tom Sawyer Island, but if it HAS to change, I think that's not a bad idea.
They're already putting in a bayou.
That’s a great idea I always wanted to see a rescuers attraction and I would like to see a Bernard and Bianca meet and greet in the island aswell best idea ever!
Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn sailed up and down the Mississippi River, which to the best of my recollection fits right into New Orleans.
Leave it to Disney to focus on projects no one asked for instead of areas and parks that need serious addressing.
^^This!
Yeah, it's so messed up, who even likes Encanto other than the 5 Year olds?!
And I don't see how a CoCo land is going to be more interesting than a trip to real Mexico.
@@Cabes822 encanto phucking rocks and I’m a dad with 3 kids.
@@HighTide_808 Hope your kids didn't inherit your potty mouth.
They should never retheme Frontierland. I feel like this would be the change that finally makes me stop going. All this sensitivity BS is driving me crazy. Frontierland is not offensive. If they have all these big plans for beyond Big Thunder then they should have just added the Tiana ride back there and left Frontierland alone!
It might not be offensive, but it's a pretty boring area (except Big Thunder Mountain Railroad)
I’m going to miss Splash Mountain 😢
Brayden, I'm honestly on the fence on this proposed Frontierland retheme. I'm glad to hear we'll be getting more for the parks, but on the other side of the spectrum, Frontierland is my favorite land at the Magic Kingdom, as I really love the Old West. Thanks for reporting on this news.
I think a lot of Frontierland would remain visually just under a different land name.
I think, Frontierland stays in spirit, big thunder mountain it’s the southern part of the US an they can add buildings with the western theme on the way to the frontier with Mexico, and include the history of Mexican, native Americans an American cowboys, texas and California used to be Mexican and native territory, I find that fascinating. and Colombia carries the theme as a beyond frontiers, the new FRONTIERLAND, I also hope they can retheme the pirates of the Caribbean to New Orleans or at least make it seem more lush, more Caribbean
A big part of Splash Mountain's greatness was the animatronics. I sure hope they don't cheap out on this aspect of the revamped ride. If they want Tiana's Bayou Adventure to be as beloved as Splash Mountain, a big drop with a few limited animatronics thrown in is not going to cut it. They need an impressive collection of animatronics, a good storyline, and great music. Anything less and everyone is going to be very disappointed with a change that is no doubt costing Disney a lot of money. Why spend so much money to replace a ride with something that isn't as good? Spend a little more to make something that will continue to be a hallmark attraction.
The log flume will be the same and there will be lots of screens.
No matter what they do it will never be as good or beloved as Splash Mountain. I have zero enthusiasm for anything Disney does anymore.
Just came back from a trip to Magic Kingdom and couldn't help but think, although one of my nostalgic favorites, Country Bear looks just about every one of its 50+ years. An update is sorely needed. I enjoyed hearing these theories about MK's future. The only place you really lost me is the desert theme. While you can make an argument that a Frontierland and Coco themed land could be included in this theme, Encanto's setting is a tropical climate so it doesn't seem suited to a this theme. Thanks for the great video, your enthusiasm is definitely infectious!
Glad to here they are finally committing to adding to the parks! Great news!! Thanks for the update.
This is such a well done video. Brayden your delivery and sources are always spot on. I love the depth you go to to bring us the news. Plus breaking complicated things (ie the RCID debacle) is so insightful and helpful to those of us who balance many other things in our lives. I hope you keep your 100% accuracy records holds true with this. Keep up the amazing work!
I think the Mexico pavilion in Epcot should get the Coco theme. AK should get a South America area, with Encanto and Emperor’s New Groove, either in Dinoland or Conservation Station. I wish the MK expansion would focus on Villains Kingdom, and I would love a New Orleans Square there.
If you want the inside scoop on Disney news backed up with facts Brayden and the Mickey Views team are the real deal!
👍🏰💫
Appreciate you striving for 100% accuracy rather than just throwing every random rumor out there.
I like Braydon because he offers images and editorials that corroborate his Disney related content. Even when there is a rumor circulating online about the theme parks he readily admits, with his sincerity, to take certain news with the proverbial grain of salt.
Removing Frontierland entirely would be a huge mistake, especially if it is all to fit one out-of-place attraction. The fantasized frontier has always been a major part of storytelling and is such a timeless concept. Shoving only IPs in never works, because they are not timeless like Disney’s classic attractions
Great coverage Brayden! You continue to give heads-up material. Thanks
Thanks Brayden. I’ve learned to really trust your projections. I remember your projections on how genie would occur and unwind. Even before genie was officially announced you were spot on in being able to see how this new genie thing could be accepted by a great number of guests at its opening price and keep getting more and more expensive and impact standby lines.
If your sources and vision are as accurate on this as we saw in the genie projections I really think we might be seeing the future of magic kingdom here. I would just hope they learned from the Epcot dirt pit saga, and start with the beyond big thunder stuff first, and start building brand new attractions in an out of the way spot. By the time they were gearing up, construction crews from epic universe would be finishing up and there would be a lot of available specialized construction labor I would think. .
At 75 , I’m not sure how much of this I’ll get to enjoy. .But these kind of plans sure seem to fit in with the staff expansion and capital expenditure numbers Iger has been throwing around. Thanks again for your insight.
That would be interesting Brayden. I would love to see a Villains Land and some South Western theming back there. I also would love that the "Country Bear Jamboree" gets the update it needs. I love that show and so did my late Father and Mother as we always got a chuckle from it. But whatever they do with Tom Sawyer's Land, we'll just have to wait and see.
I love every single one of these ideas, and I’m always open for new things as long as they’re creative and amazingly Disney
Me too are awesome and incredible
Great update, thank you! Looking forward to see what Imagineering is allowed to do! We need some creativity back in the parks :)
I KNEW they were going to do this as soon as they announced a retheme that would stick out like a sore thumb in Frontierland! Bring back Splash, leave Frontierland the way it is, and give Tiana her own new attraction somewhere else!! This just infuriates me!!
Take a passion fruit that passes
Unfortunately WDW is doing that already with these proposed “changes” ….
@@stanfordite1 It's time for you to take off your tin foil hat buddy! 😂
@@stanfordite1 Ok mate! 😬
I would be highly bummed if they rethemed frontier land
Change is inevitable. Those who fear it, are doomed! Disney is so outdated… I’m 40 and have been a Disney goer since I was in Diapers, and while I’d be sad to see it go, my kids see this stuff and aren’t as excited as they are when they see Animal Kingdom or Hollywood Studios because its old and janky. The next generation need newer stuff or they’re not gonna come
@Justin M I am not against updating frontierland at all. I just like frontierland theme. My kids still stomp their feet and clap their hands to the country bears. Every section of every park is someone favorite
Me too
Why Encanto and Coco? Just move Frontierland over to that area and add a couple of new rides, restaurants and shops. Getting rid of a beloved land for a couple of movies that people won't care about in 5 years makes no sense.
Oh so now people actually really really actually care about Frontier land?
Thanks Brayden!! You are the BEST Disney vlogger hands down!
Nicely presented, Brayden! It's nice to hear some good news.
Your video is fantastic. You’ve made it all very clear and understandable. The layout is comprehensive. The possibilities are reasonable. You need to get a lot of credit for your breaking news. If and when any of this happens we’ll think of you. I mean, Disney HAS to announce something to distract from Epic Universe around the corner, right? GREAT JOB BRAYDEN!!
I love something new in the park I love so much. I worked in Pecos back in 2019 and I kid you not we had thoughts of being turned into a Tiana place even back then. I’m also just excited to see Brayden excited about Disney Parks again too
Great video Braydon and very professional. It's apparent that you put a lot of effort into your work.
Amazing content as usual!! Always the most reliable source!
I've worked for WDW for 35 years and I'm very impressed with your accuracy and your respect for the history of the company. But at this point I'll never ride the replacement for Splash Mountain. What's next, Space Mountain? Why not? And the idea of losing Frontier land makes me very sad. Nothing seems to be sacred anymore in the name of "sensitivity." Makes me nauseous.
Amen!
The lack of advanced animatronics on Tiana doesn’t bode well for me. If they want to go all the way with electronic animatronics then they need to go that route since you say it cut’s maintenance cost. Animatronics are a staple of the Disney Parks and if they turn Tiana into a Navi River Journey situation I’ll be very upset. I love idea of a Villians Grove and the Country Bears refresh. Literally all I’ve wanted for years is for them to fix Journey into Imagination but they are seemingly doing everything they can to not do it.
Thank you for putting out such great content Brayden. You are my go to source for Disney info.
I just hope that Disney has some Imagineers on staff as passionate about all this stuff as Brayden is.
Agreed!!! Because they are losing the magic these days!
I have my doubts. They love instagramming their employee badges though.
Many over the years have gone over to Universal, and now both of them benefit.
I will be so upset if Frontierland is removed. That is my favorite area on Disney property.
In America today,everything beautiful must be destroyed. Liberals go after our children day after day.
I think the changes needed… Frontierland and Alexis Bill kind of sucks
This is what happens first day go with flash Mountain then they try to kill and mess up the whole park
@@vjbhatia77 Yes but I do not like the guy doing the changes. Notice everything painted red at Disney now being repainted blue. Democrat color. He is so full of hate.
@@Patrick-yh5yd Wtf? Clinically insane much?
I think the biggest risk with this is that the plan will change every few years as new CEO float through the company. This also once complete would firmly cement Magic Kingdom in the 2day+ category for how much time it takes to make your way through the park especially with young kids who might only make it through 2 lands in a day between naps and breaks.
Great video Brayden! Super exciting for WDW!!
Very interesting insights, as usual. Thanks, Brayden! Keep it up.
When I heard they "needed" to retheme splash mountain I immediately seized on the Pixar short Boundin'. It's fun, has a narrative, is visually consistent with Frontierland and has a vertical theme to explain the drop at the end.
Omg a 24 minute video! We’re going IN! 🎉
SUCH a good video!! Thanks for being my go-to source for Disney News!! ... But I just can't get over the loss of so many animatronics!!💔💔💔💔😭
its nice to see a video like this again its the reason i subscribed enjoyed everything except the retheming
A expansion like this is much needed for crowds but as far as a retheme of frontierland I'm on the fence. Is Princess and the frog that strong of a IP to carry a entire land? I'm all for the desert theme land and villas tho. I do wonder how they would hide the show building of Haunted Mansion if they add a trail to the other two lands
This going to sound strange, but true. I have been going to Walt Disney World since I was an 11 year old in 1975. It was wasn’t until about 10 years ago when standing in line at the Haunted Mansion, I noticed a dark green building behind the Haunted Mansion. I looked at it and wondered what it was. It the dawned on me that it housed the entire ride! Up until then I thought everything took place in the brick mansion!
I like this idea a lot and it makes me very excited! I understand that I am coming from a different perspective. I'm a new parks fan. I only went to WDW once as a kid, so I'm not as attached to the parks as compared to someone who has built memories there. Generally, I do think it is good to change things up every few years (or decades).
Some time ago, I heard about a kind of New Orleans Street, using a piece of the Frontierland area (Pecos Bill’s Cafe) and building from there some other South styled houses, making a natural transition to the new bayou themed area. A narrow path, at the banks of the Rivers of America was suposed to stay, to connect Big Thunder Mountain to it’s original land.
That new map you present honestly looks pretty cool to me
It’s ambitious but I think a cars land could fit very well behind big thunder to fit the desert theme
I think that franchise is kinda over and done with at this point. Coco and Encanto being a more inclusive theme park land makes a lot more sense with the current Disney
@@crazyfire9470 Disney has been aiming to be more inclusive, which means to support marginalized groups such as minorities, those with physical and intellectual disabilities, or excluding particular social groups. That's why so many recent Disney films have had non-white main characters, and we've seen movies like Moana, Coco and Encanto that appeal to everyone.
Oh Country Bears definitely needs some reformatting knowing the path they're going to with Splash Mountain etc. Say goodbye to "All the guys that turns me on, turns me down" 😂
Hey it looks like they are painting the castle gray again! Thanks for all your efforts on this channel. Really enjoy the videos.
Thanks! Great reporting. Hoping a lot of this does come true, Disney needs a little jolt of anticipation.
Removing feontierland is an attack on Walts legacy imo
How so? An attack on his legacy that the parks should be evolving? Or just an attack on the super fans clinging to old Disney?
Removing the current Frontierland would be a huge MISTAKE. The theming is excellent; Such as how the architecture of the buildings from Liberty Square and The Diamond Horseshoe down to Pecos Bills gets further Westward as you move through the land.
It's arguably the best land in Magic Kingdom, and maybe the strongest of all Frontierlands globally.
We've lost so much of the original ethos of WDW parks recently with DHS now being a shell of its former self, and Future World having been gradually destroyed. Will there soon be no more opening day lands or attractions left at WDW?
Excellent reporting, as always!
❤ Hope all comes to fruition, sounds like a great plan
Looking at your map i realize what if they added a second dock for the steam boat in the new land so you could use it as a kind of transportation. That would be a incredible way to enter into a new land
Very interesting thought!
Very well done video! Exceptional as always. As for the plan, I think it’d be a huge mistake to have no Frontierland at the end of all this. It’s such an integral land to the DNA of the magic kingdom. I’d be fine if they “rebuilt” Frontierland behind Big Thunder, but Encanto really doesn’t fit the southwest setting of Big Thunder or even Coco in the slightest. Why can’t they just give us Thunder Mesa?! Lol
I would argue that Latin countries very much fit the southwest theme. When I think Southwest I think Tex-Mex. Mexico and its surrounding countries are very deserty.
@@superbucko8640 I probably could’ve worded it better. I was trying to say that Encanto specifically doesn’t fit in a Frontierland setting in any way. Colombia is not a “deserty” country. It’s quite lush and tropical. Coco is a better fit visually/geographically for Frontierland even tho it’s themes don’t match the Wild West Americana theme of the land.
@@superbucko8640"Mexico and its surrounding countries are very deserty". Whaaaaat??? 😂😂😂
Yes I pray for this! This needs to happen it would be an amazing idea
I know Walt loved Frontierland, but it was certainly a product of his time, and that has mostly left the cultural context of our time. If we are to honor the overall vision of the park as always developing, always creating, sometimes even long running things need to change. The plan you talk about here would be an exciting and welcome change to a park I truly love (especially a much needed connection from Big Thunder to Haunted Mansion).
Adding more behind Big Thunder is definitely a huge plus and having a New Orleans area wound help thematically with Tiana's Bayou Adventure but I have mixed feelings on removing Frontierland entirely. I suppose we'll have to see how well they execute whatever they end up doing
Thanks @Brayden! Hopefully they don’t gut Frontierland then budget cut it after erecting construction walls and leave it a big dirt pit for several years. I would love to see the island reimagined into a more engaging and more easily accessible area with arched walking paths that connect the island to the mainland and that the Liberty Belle Boat could go under. Make the island more of a mini hub.
What bridge design would allow the Liberty Belle to pass beneath?
So many good ideas in the comments! I’m curious and looking forward to a revamp of Frontierland
VERY happy the Bears are staying!!!
LOVE all your videos, Brayden…
Thank you.
If the Bears left, I would probably give up on MK.
If they are short changing the re-theming of Splash Mountain, I have significant doubts that they were gonna spend millions of dollars expanding and creating other lands.
I read the title and fully thought they were making a dessert land. Like cakes and stuff, and I was very confused haha
Always the best source for Disney news. Thanks, Brayden!
Mind officially blown! This would be amazing - I hope you’re right on this one too!
I approve of updating Country Bears. My family has a special bond with that show, so I really love updating the AA's.
Same situation with my family. It was my late grandpa’s favorite attraction at WDW.
Thanks Brayden for the update.
I’m not a fan of the re-theming of Frontierland. Maybe they should take a survey before destroying our Disney memories.
I’m okay with the beyond Big Thunder designs. However I hate that they are doing all of this in the name of “cultural experience” they think they know best but I don’t think they actually do. 🤦🏾♀️
They definitely do not
Your memories will still with U 😉
Walt is rolling over in his.
@@humbertoribeiro3192 and the best part is, the memories have already been paid for, making them a lot cheaper than going to the parks anymore!
@@Patrick-yh5yd Walt said the parks should change. Lets be honest, I think the new desert land will just become the New Frontierland
Great report. I love this channel
That sounds exciting! Someone is a genius! I love the idea of Frontier Land changing to New Orleans Square. Something updated and different but not too crazy! 😊❤
Country Bear Jamboree show overlay & tech overhaul is the only plan that sounds good or promising here. Only thing is, I hope they’d ultimately keep all the shows rotating every once in a while, utilizing said new tech. Original, Vacation, and Christmas. Even possibly the concept they were toying around with, taking a vacation around Walt Disney World. That’s fun! Really good idea that’ll keep the Bears enjoyable, classic, timeless, ‘and’ fresh for guests.
Otherwise, I say what ‘should’ be done with the Beyond Big Thunder Mountain expansion is giving us a realization of the Western River Expedition. But yeah, anyway! Happy rumor for the Bears atleast
It's baffling that the CBJ doesn't get a yearly Christmas show.
I just like the simplicity of pecos bill, it’s a way to kinda get away from crowds, now they gotta make sure every bit of the park is crowd filled I get it money wise but the little things I enjoy die it makes things suck
I just found your channel, thanks for this info! Frontierland and Pecos Bill in particular is dear to my heart. I have many happy memories there with my dad (Bill) who is now gone. If you have idea of a closing date, I’d like to have one more meal there to remember our time there together. ❤
Always thorough in your work, and I appreciate that. As much as I hate to see Frontierland be replaced, I'll remain optimistic. Might end up loving it...the beignets should help me through any depression.
Brayden, could they keep most of Frontierland as is and update the story that this is around the time of the Louisiana Purchase? This would allow them to keep most of the existing frontage, but update Pecos (which we really like) to a New Orleans Tianna restaurant.
Everyone on the “SENSITIVITY TEAM” should be FIRED!
Great job again Brayden love your news letter.
You’re channel is so well done
I have little reason to be optimistic, BUT I will say that fewer figures in Tiana compared to Splash doesn't necessarily mean a less enjoyable show. If the new figures are more expressive and fluid, the performances could make up for the smaller cast (assuming there is a smaller cast). So I'm not quite ready to wash my hands of the business yet. Honestly, the biggest change I want to see is a commitment from the company to the cast. I'm sure lots of y'all have great memories of cast interactions that made a trip magical. I would love for the company to show appreciation and support to a cast that does this, because speaking from experience there's nothing quite so frustrating as feeling neglected when you're doing your best to make someone else's day special.
Checkmark with 163 subs? How that work
That came out way snarkier than I intended and I apologize. It wasn't called for. The truth of the matter is I used to host a lot of RUclips videos for HowStuffWorks, Discovery, and Stuff Media, and I ended up getting verified without asking for it. And even though I haven't done video work in a while, the checkmark stayed. There was a point where RUclips was going to remove checkmarks unless you put up a fuss, and I thought that was fair. But then there was such a fuss that RUclips backed off of that plan, so the checkmark is still there.
Maybe if they instead made Splash Mountain Amphibia themed...
Grogu is pressing the NO button repeatedly.
Awesome report!
I love this!! Brilliant, forward thinking excellence. Now it’s time for them to invest.
1:50 its ok Brayden to also talk about _blue sky_ rumors as well. Thats the fun in being part of the Disney die-hard fan base. We get to discuss possible "what ifs" and imagineer our own ideas for expansions and other areas that need focus. So we welcome and enjoy _blue sky_ talk every once in a while. Just so long as you preface it by saying its purely _blue sky._
So never feel like you should only report "set in stone" facts, when we also enjoy the "what if" talk as well.👌💯💯💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
That can get out of hand very easily, and there are plenty of other sites that jump on every crazy rumor. I like Brayden's more rational approach.
I wish we could finally get Western River Expedition. I wonder where the animatronics for World of Motion ended up? Those were the ones originally intended for Western River Expedition before they decided to do Pirates at WDW. With regards to the Southwest themed area you talked about Brayden, maybe they finally go back to the original name pre-opening. They were talking about calling it Thunder Mesa
Brayden, I am a brand new subscriber. My first of many visits to WDW was June 1972 as a 9 year old. My wife and I have raised our family out west. So, I totally love Disneyland. Although I have watched a few of your past videos and appreciated them, this one has me hooked to see what happens! :-)
As a decades long imagineer wannabe, my contribution to this blue sky (or reality?) plan is all about naming. I feel like the name of each area of the park is also very important to the magic.
To start of, as we transition from Frontierland, I would call the New Orleans area 'Cajun County'. To me the word 'country' flows better from the Frontier. 'Cajun' describes the New Orleans ambiance, and also allows the alliteration with Critters, whether it be a country bear or a bayou bear, or a Jamboree or some Jambalaya!
Next, we head towards Big Thunder Mountain, Coco and Encanto. Forgive me, but Desertland is going to die a hot, dry parched death! But 'Tierra del Magia' (Land of Magic) I like 'Tierra del'. Magic was my first thought. I like it. Perhaps someone has another.
Finally, Villianland seems too generic. I am still looking for a name here. Frightsville? The Backyard? (thinking of it's physical location behind The Haunted Mansion? I don't know. I am still working on that one... How about Sleepy Hollow? Or is that too specific? Where would all of the villains enjoy hanging out?
I would like to know your thoughts.
Great reporting as always!
I wonder if the desert themed land would actually be renamed to Frontierland effectively moving Frontierland and still referring to it as such. I think that would be an easier pill to swallow and still retain a semblance of the original land
That’s what I think will happen
All very good ideas. How about we get a dinosaur diorama around the train track like in Disneyland
I wonder if they could move county bears etc to by the Frontierland railroad stop. Looking at the Google maps satellite images there is a bit of a wooded area between the railroad and the backstage area that it could extend into. This Frontierland would end with a bridge to cross over into coco/enconto area. Looking at the proposed villains
Area, I think they could move the line for haunted mansion to make a walkway along the river. As a second entrance they could do a tunnel between the HM and small world show buildings. That could be fun and spooky.
Awesome updates and predictions