the fact that the future Donphan is basically just a robot makes me think a lot of mons went extinct and people just created robots to mimic their role in the ecosystem
The paradox forms of Donphan are very sad when you think about it. The past version represents how diverse elephants were in ancient times, but the future version represents how today elephants are nearing extinction due to poaching and may not be around in the future. And that’s why it’s a robot, no Donphans in the future.
Rwanda and Tanzania have been successful in cracking down on poaching and elephants are rebounding there. Asian elephants have the highest level of protection in India. So there is hope. 🤞 Also, Donphan is in both games I think, it's just that it used to have a past form and their replicating that in the future with the future cyborg. Much like how the Mammoth went extinct.
Pretty sure the paradox forms are based off of current pokemon but they are just considered different species so it is donphan but it'll have a new name
I think Lore wise they will actually be what Donphan looked like in the past and will look like in the future, but gameplay wise they're standalone pokemon.
@@sonbaty5932 I think they are standalone Pokemon that are related to Donphan, because thats truer to Real Life. You wouldnt call a modern animal the same as the ancestor they evolved from. The reverse for the future form, obviously.
Making your game choice is as simple as this, you can trade Pokémon and get any version exclusive you want via trading with friends, you can’t change the Pokémon you ride on so I would base my choice on which legendary you want to ride on and see all the time. Personally for me I want to see koraidan because I love that he runs and swims with his legs
youre forgetting a large portion of players who dont have nintendo online which is required for social features like trading, so which game for a lot of players is based on version exclusives
@@mesa8680 which I can understand but whether it be Pokémon home transfer, trading with friends, trading online, terra raid battles, and etc I’m sure it will be possible to get Pokémon from each game, but one thing that doesn’t seem changeable is which legendary you ride on
@@reacreations believe me I understand, I don’t have friends who play to trade with, but one way or another whether it be raids or Pokémon home, or finding someone willing to trade in local or getting Nintendo online and trading that way I’m sure version exclusives are able to be acquired but one thing that isn’t changeable (at least to my current pre release knowledge) is your ride Pokémon for whichever game you choose
@@hooky17 exactly and yet people basically take the first thing they hear or read from Pokemon as guaranteed new names when looking at new forms or new Pokemon
I love Donphan. Phanpy is one of my favorite Pokemon, and it's been in my top 3 favorites since I first heard about Pokemon. Seeing these new forms brings me so much joy, and I freaked out when I first saw them
Somehow, no one thought up how it’s just a Koraidon-Cyclizar-Miraidon thing, both those elephants are TECHNICALLY Donphan but aren’t, just like how the legendaries are TECHNICALLY Cyclyzar but not
Me: "I wonder how Shady is reacting to the new Pokemon news...?" **Me after not seeing Shady for almost 6 months** Me: "HOLY BAGEBUS, THAT'S A BIG BEARD"
I love rewatching all of these watch with videos n shady is the only one who full sends the video with sound. I will always choose to watch with shady now.
I’m really excited for futuristic and “robotic” seeming pokemon to be a thing and interested if it’ll be explained at all beyond just saying past and future forms
Please please please bring back Road to Ranked!!! The best series ever! There’s a whole new generation now who didn’t get to see it when you first did it and I’m pretty sure everyone would love to see it
leaks : Past donphan : ground/fighting. Futur donphan : ground/electric. But I advise Violet for ... Reasons. (New kirlia Evo, fighting/fairy (An archer apparently). New tyranitar, electric/dark. New Hydragon, dark/flying. New Pyrax fire/poison.) Meanwhile the past forms don't have that very exciting typings (except donphan fighting/ground).
I'm so Excited!!! I kinda wished they switched the books in the games! Like you have the book from the past if your in Violet and the book somehow from the future in the Scarlet game. I think that would've been a cool twist.
the past and future concept has been thrown around from the moment the box arts were revealed due to their names (korai = past and mirai = future (yes we have all heard this many times by now) and the lead theory for the lore of the legendaries is that they are past and future versions of Cyclizard, just as these are past and future versions of Donphan. However, all these past and future versions insentivizes (idk if thats how you spell it) co-op gameplay be it multiplayer (the new feature) or through trading (which have a more included role in the series as of X and Y). Also i feel like the names great tusk and iron threads are working tiles and not the full name of the pokemon. not in the sense that it is currently unnamed, but that its a title for a pokemon the in game proffessors don't know about yet, and we players will discover what they really are. also "Great Tusk" and "Iron Threads" sound like the category the pokemons will have in the pokedex, like how Arcanine is the "Legendary" pokemon.
Spoilers They are known as a Paradox Pokemon. Means that these Pokemon are only can be found commonly in alternate timeline or universe that should not exist in our world
Super excited for your playthrough of these games! But Shady I must ask. How long did it take to grow your glorious beard? I’m currently almost 2 months into my first. Anything I can do to rock it like you?
100% scarlet now, cause if this is a future and past type of thing and all future forms look cyber like that idk how I'm feeling about it, but the primal looking past forms are insane, and to top it off armourouge is really growing on me and koraidon has always looked sick except for his slightly wonky animation but I love it now lol, so ya 100% scarlet fs
Whole talk of expedition team and the scarlet/violet books etc sounds like legends Arceus ? Also the past/present could be an alternative final form as like the hisuian starters final form. So still Donphan, but not that we know it.
Honestly, I’m team Scarlet, not only because of Flinstones Box Art Legendary, not ONLY because of better Mega Man, but also the past forms. Yabba Dabba Doo! :D
@@robertsmith1905 in your opinion how many more do you think there will be? I hope it's a lot considering how many pokemon there are now. Plus that would make trading so fun.
@@shadowfan115 they actually are both. So for today’s reveal they are paradox forms of donphan but they are going to be unique new Pokémon with different names kinda like diglet and wiglet. So they are donphan but they also aren’t at the same time.
My favorite part about every reaction so far (minus MandJTV bc he was warned beforehand) is that Ed Sheeran - Celestial was playing for this trailer and everyone went "FUCK IMMA GET COPYRIGHTED"
@@LacTose90 I don't follow leaks or rumors so I am talking as someone who think that this is just split evolution and I don't plan to find out what it is before the game is out.
Yes, past and present forms are a big thing in this generation. Since it sounds like you haven't been paying attention to the leaks, I won't mention anything specific, but each version has multiple past (Scarlet) or future (Violet) forms. They will likely not be "evos," since some the paradox pokemon in Violet are exclusive to Scarlet in their normal form, and vice versa.
WHAT's goin on guys shadypenguinn here bringing you another episode of road to ranked. If you can PLEASE show some shady love to that like button and I'll keep two videos a day comin your way that is what I say now today... T_T I'm not crying you're crying
In my opinion, pokemon is better when it’s less futuristic, like how it is currently in Pokémon journeys is great but all these Pokémon that are like “advanced technology” looking almost like they were made by humans I just don’t enjoy, so scarlet is gonna be my pick, it seems more “primal” if I had to give it a word lol
Shady! Are you going to be doing a Let's Play for SV on the channel? I don't want your stuff on Twitch so I don't know if you'd be streaming there or not.
I know I'm a day late but personally I don't think it's donphan I think its 2 new version exclusive evos if it they did it before with cosmog granted that was a box legendary but whose to say they can't do it again
I'm really hoping that all the Paradox forms in Violet aren't going to be all cyber and digital like Miriadon and this "Miriadonphan" for lack of a name. Like I don't dislike the aesthetic of it, but it would be so unfortunate for them all to go digital cyberpunk. Like, I think the Gallade we are supposed to be getting is a Violet exclusive and is supposed to be Fighting/Fairy. So I'm really hoping it doesn't get the cyberpunk treatment, that would be such a disappointment with such a cool typing combination
@@emperor_rat actually, after seeing some of the sprites from the leaks, im not as worried. I was mainly concerned that they would all have this silver chrome color, but most seem to have colors closer to their original, which i definitely like more, even if they all have a more robotic design, they at least wont all be chrome-washed
Magnemite still has normal eyes, despite being a ball bearing with magnets attached. Miraidon and Iron Treads have pixelated eyes, and neither look remotely biological.
the fact that the future Donphan is basically just a robot makes me think a lot of mons went extinct and people just created robots to mimic their role in the ecosystem
I like this theory... either that or they're actually all evolving into Digimon :D
Horizon Zero Dawn was Pokémon Violet this whole time!
Thats actually depressing
Should humanity start building robotic dodo's?
@@Manzana1C yes lmao
The paradox forms of Donphan are very sad when you think about it. The past version represents how diverse elephants were in ancient times, but the future version represents how today elephants are nearing extinction due to poaching and may not be around in the future. And that’s why it’s a robot, no Donphans in the future.
Rwanda and Tanzania have been successful in cracking down on poaching and elephants are rebounding there. Asian elephants have the highest level of protection in India. So there is hope. 🤞
Also, Donphan is in both games I think, it's just that it used to have a past form and their replicating that in the future with the future cyborg. Much like how the Mammoth went extinct.
Pretty sure the paradox forms are based off of current pokemon but they are just considered different species so it is donphan but it'll have a new name
I think Lore wise they will actually be what Donphan looked like in the past and will look like in the future, but gameplay wise they're standalone pokemon.
Especially since you see a normal Donphan fighting Tyranitar.
if you believe the document that totally doesn't exist, their names are koraidonphan and moraidonphan.
@@sonbaty5932 I think they are standalone Pokemon that are related to Donphan, because thats truer to Real Life. You wouldnt call a modern animal the same as the ancestor they evolved from. The reverse for the future form, obviously.
@@liamwhite3522 Yeah i think its probably like Wiglett in that Case
Making your game choice is as simple as this, you can trade Pokémon and get any version exclusive you want via trading with friends, you can’t change the Pokémon you ride on so I would base my choice on which legendary you want to ride on and see all the time.
Personally for me I want to see koraidan because I love that he runs and swims with his legs
Well some people don't have access to the trading system like myself
youre forgetting a large portion of players who dont have nintendo online which is required for social features like trading, so which game for a lot of players is based on version exclusives
@@mesa8680 which I can understand but whether it be Pokémon home transfer, trading with friends, trading online, terra raid battles, and etc I’m sure it will be possible to get Pokémon from each game, but one thing that doesn’t seem changeable is which legendary you ride on
@@reacreations believe me I understand, I don’t have friends who play to trade with, but one way or another whether it be raids or Pokémon home, or finding someone willing to trade in local or getting Nintendo online and trading that way I’m sure version exclusives are able to be acquired but one thing that isn’t changeable (at least to my current pre release knowledge) is your ride Pokémon for whichever game you choose
@@wreckedyou22 well i mean i don't have home or anyone who plays the switch and i doubt terra raids will include version exclusives
The two knew Donphan like pokémon are known as Great Tusk and Iron Treads, respectively. They both look great.
Those could be basically codenames for the mons given by the researchers
@@shadowfan115 Yeah I agree they're definitely not the actual names of the Pokemon. Just their 'lore' names in the books
@@hooky17 exactly and yet people basically take the first thing they hear or read from Pokemon as guaranteed new names when looking at new forms or new Pokemon
Basically like ultra beasts
@@moltencheese exactly
The site notes that the Donphan are Pokemon from past expeditions, recorded in books. Sounds very much like Legends Arceus.
I love Donphan. Phanpy is one of my favorite Pokemon, and it's been in my top 3 favorites since I first heard about Pokemon. Seeing these new forms brings me so much joy, and I freaked out when I first saw them
Armarouge and Ceruledge are version exclusives, hence they are trading.
They trolled all the Streamers by putting Ed Sheera in there like that, lol. Still hoping they will show the starter Evo's before the launch.
Sad some people can't be surprised
The Road to Ranked announcement plus the old keep it shady outro? Life couldn't get any better than this.
Wait he said he is doing road to rank ?
@@Jayster2340 around 8:47 to 9 something he said he's going to try to make it a thing
letting the ed sheeran song play?? The mad lad
I mean he would only have to worry about DMCA from Pokemon as they commissioned Ed Sheeran for that song
The fear of every person reacting when they hear the music 😂😂😂
Tha is for letting us know you were in shorts. That was the information I needed during this video
Shady acting as if he wasn’t going to end up getting both games already is hilarious.
That audio is fire fam
Somehow, no one thought up how it’s just a Koraidon-Cyclizar-Miraidon thing, both those elephants are TECHNICALLY Donphan but aren’t, just like how the legendaries are TECHNICALLY Cyclyzar but not
The lore sounds pretty rad, I like the whole research thing we got introduced to in Arceus.
Me: "I wonder how Shady is reacting to the new Pokemon news...?"
**Me after not seeing Shady for almost 6 months**
Me: "HOLY BAGEBUS, THAT'S A BIG BEARD"
I love rewatching all of these watch with videos n shady is the only one who full sends the video with sound. I will always choose to watch with shady now.
I’m really excited for futuristic and “robotic” seeming pokemon to be a thing and interested if it’ll be explained at all beyond just saying past and future forms
Please please please bring back Road to Ranked!!! The best series ever! There’s a whole new generation now who didn’t get to see it when you first did it and I’m pretty sure everyone would love to see it
leaks :
Past donphan : ground/fighting.
Futur donphan : ground/electric.
But I advise Violet for ... Reasons.
(New kirlia Evo, fighting/fairy (An archer apparently).
New tyranitar, electric/dark.
New Hydragon, dark/flying.
New Pyrax fire/poison.)
Meanwhile the past forms don't have that very exciting typings (except donphan fighting/ground).
Great tusk and iron treads don't sound like pkmn names to me, they can still be a split evo or ancient/future forms of donphan
Donphan rolls like the description
Thank God he kept the music in lol.
I'm so Excited!!! I kinda wished they switched the books in the games! Like you have the book from the past if your in Violet and the book somehow from the future in the Scarlet game. I think that would've been a cool twist.
Same!!!!! I love Violet legend + ceruledge but I think I'd love the past forms more 😭😭😭
Shady didn’t give a F he let the music play 😂😂👀
The Scarlett and Violet books sound like Legends games to me, even mentioning an expedition team.
"Why would you trade them?"
Because that's what you do with version exclusives Shady 😁
How many paradox pokemon do you guys think there will be?
If they put plenty of them in it will just make the game longer. Plus we can't rule out dlc.
I would assume at least 5 lines in each
the past and future concept has been thrown around from the moment the box arts were revealed due to their names (korai = past and mirai = future (yes we have all heard this many times by now) and the lead theory for the lore of the legendaries is that they are past and future versions of Cyclizard, just as these are past and future versions of Donphan. However, all these past and future versions insentivizes (idk if thats how you spell it) co-op gameplay be it multiplayer (the new feature) or through trading (which have a more included role in the series as of X and Y). Also i feel like the names great tusk and iron threads are working tiles and not the full name of the pokemon. not in the sense that it is currently unnamed, but that its a title for a pokemon the in game proffessors don't know about yet, and we players will discover what they really are. also "Great Tusk" and "Iron Threads" sound like the category the pokemons will have in the pokedex, like how Arcanine is the "Legendary" pokemon.
The bois out here having to preorder both versions just to get all these awesome Pokemon!
Shady came back looking like a young kratos 😱
The uncreative side of me has deemed them Donphast and Donphuture. The slightly creative side of me has dubbed them Donphunch and Donpholt
The Donphan in books are in two different books. Scarlet is one book. & Violet is the other.
I'm excited to see which other Pokemon have a past and future form
Noooo this is the greatest sound experience of my life
Maybe the new Donphan forms are a branched Evolution
In Scarlet Donphan evolves in its past form and in Violet in its future form
They won't evolve
No they're Donphan but how they looked in the past and in the future
Spoilers
They are known as a Paradox Pokemon. Means that these Pokemon are only can be found commonly in alternate timeline or universe that should not exist in our world
I could be wrong about my explaining so take this as a grain of salt
@@spiritedchung5926 their are supposedly found in the region in a uncharted portion so storywise who knows we will find out in 9 days
Super excited for your playthrough of these games! But Shady I must ask. How long did it take to grow your glorious beard? I’m currently almost 2 months into my first. Anything I can do to rock it like you?
Luckily I chose Scarlet Paradox Past Donphan (Great Tusks) has the better design
Cyber-Phan is henceforth the name of Iron Treads
100% scarlet now, cause if this is a future and past type of thing and all future forms look cyber like that idk how I'm feeling about it, but the primal looking past forms are insane, and to top it off armourouge is really growing on me and koraidon has always looked sick except for his slightly wonky animation but I love it now lol, so ya 100% scarlet fs
Whole talk of expedition team and the scarlet/violet books etc sounds like legends Arceus ?
Also the past/present could be an alternative final form as like the hisuian starters final form.
So still Donphan, but not that we know it.
I'm calling it! I'm calling it! ... Oooohhhhggghh! New Donphan!?
Honestly, I’m team Scarlet, not only because of Flinstones Box Art Legendary, not ONLY because of better Mega Man, but also the past forms. Yabba Dabba Doo! :D
The fact their is a futuristic Delibird in the game as well 🙏🏽
Future Donphan is straight up a Digimon. Cant convince me otherwise.
I really hope someone nudges shady to get violet because there's one pokemon in that game I think he'll really enjoy ;)
So were those supposed leaks of past and future paradox pokemon true
Quite possible now
They are just wait for the others
@@robertsmith1905 in your opinion how many more do you think there will be? I hope it's a lot considering how many pokemon there are now. Plus that would make trading so fun.
@@robertsmith1905 yup it's 100% paradox forms but people want to believe their different Pokemon souly based on their Pokedex description
@@shadowfan115 they actually are both. So for today’s reveal they are paradox forms of donphan but they are going to be unique new Pokémon with different names kinda like diglet and wiglet. So they are donphan but they also aren’t at the same time.
My favorite part about every reaction so far (minus MandJTV bc he was warned beforehand) is that Ed Sheeran - Celestial was playing for this trailer and everyone went "FUCK IMMA GET COPYRIGHTED"
I love that everyones reaction is IM GETTING DMCA'D.
i think they are regional donphan forms that are altered by space time
Not really they are literally primal and future forms but with different names
Here before the video gets taken down lol Gangster Shady just playing Ed without a care 😅
I just reloaded en the sound came back
Can you believe it guys? Scarlet and violet! Just a week away
Past - Primal
Future - Samurai Jack
Maybe the new forms are all version exclusives one game for past and the other for future
You know they don't have to be evo of donphans, just like how alolan persian and perserker is a thing. They could be split evos from phanpy up
It's just past and future forms that's all it is
@@LacTose90 I don't follow leaks or rumors so I am talking as someone who think that this is just split evolution and I don't plan to find out what it is before the game is out.
Out of the donphans i prefer the past one who agrees
Unfortunately, my speechreading skills are a touch rusty.
Yes, past and present forms are a big thing in this generation. Since it sounds like you haven't been paying attention to the leaks, I won't mention anything specific, but each version has multiple past (Scarlet) or future (Violet) forms. They will likely not be "evos," since some the paradox pokemon in Violet are exclusive to Scarlet in their normal form, and vice versa.
We are absolutely getting Ancient Emboar
WHAT's goin on guys shadypenguinn here bringing you another episode of road to ranked. If you can PLEASE show some shady love to that like button and I'll keep two videos a day comin your way that is what I say now today...
T_T I'm not crying you're crying
That’s paradox Donphan depending on the game you get
I’m team violet but I’m not gonna lie past form donphan is looking way better 🤷🏽♂️🤔🤔
It was like a proto and neo donphan
This just reaffirmed choosing Scarlett was the correct choice
I was thinking like what if they are evolutions of donphan. Would explain the design and new names
I’m really depressed that RUclips wouldn’t let me watch this live with you. 😔
In my opinion, pokemon is better when it’s less futuristic, like how it is currently in Pokémon journeys is great but all these Pokémon that are like “advanced technology” looking almost like they were made by humans I just don’t enjoy, so scarlet is gonna be my pick, it seems more “primal” if I had to give it a word lol
No VOD of the livestream?
ROAD TO RANKED! HE SAID IT!
Shady! Are you going to be doing a Let's Play for SV on the channel? I don't want your stuff on Twitch so I don't know if you'd be streaming there or not.
Like earned for DMCA risk
Wow every time I see shady his beard get longer wow
Bro people have been guessing future and past forms since the second trailer
I know I'm a day late but personally I don't think it's donphan I think its 2 new version exclusive evos if it they did it before with cosmog granted that was a box legendary but whose to say they can't do it again
I wonder can the pokemon in the tera raid battles be shiny?
So hyped shady ❤
Oh my gosh. R2R returns.
This ed sheeran song is a BANGER!!
Cant wait for this game.
I'm really hoping that all the Paradox forms in Violet aren't going to be all cyber and digital like Miriadon and this "Miriadonphan" for lack of a name. Like I don't dislike the aesthetic of it, but it would be so unfortunate for them all to go digital cyberpunk. Like, I think the Gallade we are supposed to be getting is a Violet exclusive and is supposed to be Fighting/Fairy. So I'm really hoping it doesn't get the cyberpunk treatment, that would be such a disappointment with such a cool typing combination
Sad news buddy
@@emperor_rat actually, after seeing some of the sprites from the leaks, im not as worried. I was mainly concerned that they would all have this silver chrome color, but most seem to have colors closer to their original, which i definitely like more, even if they all have a more robotic design, they at least wont all be chrome-washed
Shady is the best
So do we have to do the voice overs now??
No
I'm opposite, I want Armorouge and future Donphan lol.
I thought Wiglett was a Diglett evo
There is a future Delibird and its strong
I mean shady the new forms u can trade bcz it mostly be in late game
When you get back, can you tell us where your dream vacation was to?
YESS JOIN THE RED BIKE CLUB!!!
so this robot donphan is like a living pokemon even though it has robot body and eyes???
And Miraidon never made you question this?
@@liamwhite3522 magnemite says hi
Magnemite still has normal eyes, despite being a ball bearing with magnets attached. Miraidon and Iron Treads have pixelated eyes, and neither look remotely biological.
I am sad I got the Violet and it's not the past I would rather have the past donphan so I might be trying to switch my pre orders lol
I cant hear anything
All I really ask is that they please let me customize my character I don’t want my character looking like a nerd 🤣
Shady I have a solution. I’m getting both games so pick Violet and I’ll just trade you the primal Donphan. I’ve got you covered lol
Hope u don't get dmca'ed
It was awesome seeing u react to this shady hype
I special summon my level 5 cyber donphan!
I'm so hype!!
Its donphan