Unless the two people are so drunk they mistake each other for their spouses, or one person is b--ging the spouse's identical twin without knowing it, cheating is never a mistake. It's a CHOICE.
"Mistakes happen in every relationship." Lady, it's not a mistake if you do it on PURPOSE, with FULL intent, KNOWING what's going to happen. 'Consequences of your actions' aren't MISTAKES just because you can't pick and choose them.
Leaving Caleb $1 in the will is also the way to play it in those "cutting a person off" situations. My mom works in a law office and she says that if you straight up leave someone out of your will, sometimes they can play the "oh, they just forgot to put me in in the will!" card and try to contest it, but if you leave just a paltry amount for that specific person to get, it's admittance of, "no, I didn't forget you. Piss off."
Lawyer: "you sir get 2 million dollars and a massive house in your father's will" Caleb:"what about me?" Lawyer:"oh you get this wet sock" *hands him wet sock*
For one thing, cheating isn't a mistake. It's a willful act. No, these things don't happen in every relationship. Walk away, and if the child isn't yours, don't pay child support. Poor child. He will be the one who will pay for the evil act of his mother and your brother.
The mother is worse than her golden baby, for enabling his behavior for so long and, even after everything was said and done, still wanting to enable him after he was disowned. It took the threat of divorce and losing her own stability to stop. The father, on the other hand... it's sad that he took so long to realize what was wrong with his family, but boy did he make up for it and then some the moment he realized it. THAT was how the mother should've also acted. OP says he's "stubborn", but he's just a man with integrity who doesn't hesitate to do what is right.
About the father: Well ... yeah. He took too much time, but he was most of his time at work. So I would give him some slack. When OP told him about everything, he did the right thing
I do agree the mother is an enablist but honestly it's atleast ok coz she is now not supporting him which is tough. You also have to realise it is tough coz it's her son, so I would cut some slack
@@thecursed01 Which is a red flag and that the more you try to fix someone, the more it ends up becoming your problem, especially if you spend more effort fixing her than she does herself. That's time and energy that could be better spent elsewhere. Sometimes too much empathy can become a bad thing.
You know what forgiving a cheater tells her/him? "I am CONDONING this behavior and letting you know that you pretty much have my PERMISSION to do it again."
The wife obviously thought she would get away with it because OP took her back two times before when she cheated. I do feel bad for the kid, but it’s totally understandable why OP doesn’t want to raise him anymore. The mother is honestly pathetic. Need I say more
@@CantorHawke You're pretty stupid. He's been treated as the inferior one and never believed, so what was he meant to do? It took for the brother to slip up in a moment of hubris for the parents to finally see his true colours. Clearly not the brightest bulb.
Seriously people are saying its cruel to not be in Henrys life? Thats not his child! He has no obligation to that affair baby. Its better for him to forget all about him then to try and raise a child that isn't his. It would breed resentment and anger then abuse.
@@jdavis7613 Exactly.. As far as the child is concerned op is his father.. that just left him.. Yeah it's better for the adult op but still.. poor kid..
That's sadistic? I'm having siri play doom and Chris benoits theme on loop and the wife and brother would be meeting Satan or Jesus while I rot in jail
That it? Weak. I would've make the dad divorced that bitch he married and we can now go for father-son trip to Thailand. Plus I would tell that kid Henry that his mother is a cheater and that is why OP is no longer his dad.
Also, find it hilarious how he got accused of being cruel for not having anything to do with his "son". Seriously?! It must have hurt a lot to make that decision. This wasn't just another man's child. It was his own brother. If he kept the child, he would have a daily living reminder of his brother's betrayal. Not to mention the interactions with his ex. These "internet therapists"... what would they have done if faced with the same situation. I can say assuredly that most would make the same decision he did. Very few would choose the other option.
I'm mad at OP for taking his wife back twice before when she cheated. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me fool me three times I clearly deserve it!!!
He didn't stay the 3rd time........that's besides the point though, he should have left after the 1st time. I don't care what the excuses are, end of relationship for me. Cheating is a line that you just don't cross.
@SilentHotdog28 i didnt say he stayed after the third time. he stayed after she had already cheated twice. So he got fooled three times total. He should have left after number 1 and especially after number 2. Should never have taken 3 times.
Parents really allowed this to continue for way too long, terrible parenting tbh. Dad finally took his side, but that took way too long. EDIT: "Two occasions where I caught her being unfaithful..." buddy, getting caught once is already enough. Twice? You're just asking for it. I'd much rather be a single parent than raise a child with a terrible person.
It's the Mother who allowed it to continue and kept enabling the AH Brother. The Father, like every Dad is super busy at work to keep the family alive. So it's reasonable to see how he was late to realize everything. When the Father knew the truth he actually sided with OP like every reasonable person. And he did it every time when had to deal with the sons. From stopping the other bullies, to the AH Brother stealing money, to the cheating with OP's wife problem. Only the Mother was at fault for this.
The dad was partly to blame for taking so long to finally realize, but it was mainly the mom who should get full blame. Cuz as you can tell, even after being exposed to the truth, she still wanted to protect her "baby." She's still enabling him regardless of all the wrongdoings. And I agree with the cheating. Doing it once can possibly be forgiven, depending on the person. But once they do it a second time, that's it. Cut off. End it.
@@YukitoOnline2:57 he knew. It wasn't like he didn't realise what was happening. There is a massive difference between obliviousness, and wilful ignorance. The father had just had enough of waiting for Caleb to change. Newsflash: ignoring the problem made it that way
I mean, it’s painfully obvious that the reason Op’s POS brother acts like this is cause his terrible, enabling mother treats him like he can do no wrong. But…i’m ngl…i kinda think Op shares some blame here. Imo if someone cheats on you and you take them back, if they cheat on you again i don’t have any sympathy for you…
From the first time he caught her cheating, he should have divorce her and do the paternity test. Even I (and I'm a idiot guessing stuff) would have doubts about the child being mine
@awesomenesskid15 I still don't understand that like anyone can cheat no matter how nice they may seem double checking feels fair when a woman usually doesnt have raise another woman's baby but man may have to
The dad seems really good. He was supporting the younger brother but when he realized it’s not a phase, he did the right thing. I think any good parent would do that. It’s very good if your child opens up to you about their life
Also, if you ever catch your wife for significant other being unfaithful, then you should probably get a DNA check on your child and then break up/ divorce them
"This is how brothers bond." No, it's so not. My brother was my best friend. We did just about everything together. He was a great kid, an amazing brother, and the best child.
"This is how brothers bond" some fights are how they bond,not putting stones in cereals,making life torture, encouraging bullies to bully and the most serious part, THEFT.
I feel like although it's kinda exaggerated to call him cruel and I don't blame op I still feel terrible for the son, imagine if you where in his situation where your father leaves you because he found out your not his actual son and you had no idea and fully believed you where his child, that would be heartbreaking and even truma inducing. Again I don't blame op at all but I still have sympathy for the son and deeply feel sorrow for him
@@Bella_rrrrrr I agree it will be hard for him to process all of it but I really hate how people are forcing op to push down his feelings and suck it up it feels really scummy
I mean, I can see it from the kid's perspective. Imagine you're really attached to your father, then just one day, He's gone. That kid, if he was attached to OP, will have life long trauma, and perhaps even blame himself for his parents divorce. I just feel for OP and the kid. The wife and the bro in this situation was disgusting.
@@richarddickens2438OP's father. He let Caleb slide for a while thinking it was normal, but quickly took action once he saw that Caleb wasn't maturing mentally at all.
For how much OP’s mother favored, loved, and protected Caleb even after he was exposed for everything he had done, I figured he would have been an affair baby if they hadn’t already done the paternity tests for Karen’s child.
Am I the only one who thinks this guy sounds like a complete catch?! Like really! He’s smart, successful, determined, and loyal. I feel so bad for this guy cause he sounds like all he’s done in life is give everyone his best and everyone but his dad shut him down.
Why should OP be considerate when his own brother wasn't? His own brother didn't even think for a second before sleeping with OP's wife. He must've thought that he won't be blamed since he's the golden child, but he didn't think about how their dad was done with him. OP shouldn't even think about that guy anymore.
My mom told me to kms should I forgive her she ALWAYS DID FAVERTS and well my sister is 4 years older then me and she scream curse and insult my parents she got away I can’t do shit to anyone and my mom is SUPER STRICT like I get hit for FOOTSTEPS
Everyone is giving op shit for going back to the ex but look at how he was raised. His brother was constantly put above him from the people who birthed and raised him. The man never had any chance to really build his self esteem and that’s not including the bullying from school but bullying from his brother as well.
As a mother I hate how people expect someone to raise a child in a situation like this. F that! If you date a woman and decide to help raise her child that is not yours 🎉🎉🎉. It takes a special partner to do that but, you had a choice. You are not cruel for taking care of yourself and your mental health leaving a liar in the dust. The child is innocent but, they have a father and it his responsibility to take care of his child.
Stepping up and building a parental relationship with a child out of love is worth celebrating. It’s a far cry from finding out that the child you’ve been raising is the product of your partner’s infidelity, and does not have the inherent paternal tie you’d believed existed. Realizing that your role in that child’s life is based on a lie is a WOUND, and no one should be blamed for needing to step away and heal after it’s been dealt, even if healing means that the parental relationship is never reestablished.
@@Joeylikesgames-ku9mx Oh ok. go edit it then, don't leave it out, edit button is free. Actually it's all the Mother's fault. She's one enabling and allowing/defending the AH Brother's actions even to when they're both adults. The Father like every working Dad actually has no idea until he actually talked to OP. It's reasonable why he has no idea, he's working his ass off for his wife and 2 kids, no time and energy to know everything. Once the Father listened and got to the bottom of it, he like every reasonable person sided with OP and actually fix the situation. From stopping the other bullies at school to scolding the AH Brother when he got punched for stealing OP's money, and to disowning AH Brother and not including him from his will.
Ok who ever had the audacity to say that he was cruel is messed up even after everything he went through some people still decide to side with the brother. Bro your good don’t feel bad I hope you heal
Can't believe people are calling OP cruel for not wanting to raise Karen and Caleb's son. While I agree a kid shouldn't be punished for their parents' bs, the kid isn't OP's, and he has no obligation to raise another man's child and both Caleb and Karen need to lay in the bed they made
It's devastating when the people you love the most betray you. I can’t imagine what you're going through, but I hope you find the support you need to heal from this
Well,it looks like OP will be responsible for his Mom after his Dad is gone. OP could make his Mom pay for all of those years that she backed the idiot. Although I can see her pleading with OP after his Dad is gone to help/take care of his brother. Mom should be happy that the task is OPs. She really wouldn't want me to have that responsibility for her.
"yes officer,i was gone to a bath for some minutes and when i came back she was on the ground bleeding with a knife on her chest.....no officer,i had no idea about what happened,but i think she killed herself." -me, probably
One big change I would have made us sitting down with Henry and explaining to the poor kid how he and OP weren't actually father and son, but rather uncle and nephew.
The stubborness of that dad reminds me of my dad And his dad, aka my paternal grandpa who is now a free man physically ( his ashes were spread by the breeze of blaine County, ne)
Nah, this is BS for a cheating ex-wife to reveal herself and discuss her affair with her husband even though OP is not aware of the relationship between them
Nah it’s for the best, having a parent around who hates you would have been bad for Henry. OP said that he sees Caleb when he looks at Henry. It’s much better for Henry to be raised by Caleb & the cheating ex-wife. Henry is also very young, he may not even remember OP in the future.
if that was me we would all 3 take a nice relaxing fishing trip , and i would even give them presents (cement shoes) and let them swim with the fish,,,,
Yeah no this is so fucking weird that the way the kid acted after he got called out by the dad that's psychopath Behavior he was like wait what do you mean I'm in trouble what do you mean I did something wrong that's not a normal response also why the hell would that be the favorite Child oh my sons just casually attacking burning beating and encouraging people to hurt him and even telling him he should kill himself no I'm going to back this horse
After Ls after Ls, finally this guy can get a rare W. But tbh, grow some backbone if you dont want to end up in these situations. There is a reason for the quote :”Good guy finish last”
Funny how the YEARS of torment weren't enough for the parents to pull Caleb up short, but the fucking the wife for years was... I can't imagine how Karen could expect OP to raise the boy when he's Caleb's son. That's wild. Poor OP.
Why should op be responsible for caring for his nephew it isnt his son, the son side maybe sad but whats cruel is to call op cruel for not wanting to live a life based on lies
Girl really tried to say Op didn't love her because 'he didn't try to fight for her.' Honey, civilized people don't fight for trash...Like Op very generously forgave you 2 times already because he thought you could grow into better person more than you actually could. You clearly can't just seem to stick with one man, so that man is graciously letting you be free and live whatever life you seem to want.
I like how the mom when op comes to her to stop the situation. Says she doesn't want to get involved but as soon as little bro says anything she comes running to him like she's his own personal bodyguard 😂🤦
I understand why you can't see that kid anymore though it's really sad for the kid. I doubt he'll ever see this but maybe he could set up a college fund for him at least he's contributing to the quality of his life even if he's not going to be able to be in it
19:49 now who in there right mind is raising the son of someone who made there life harsh for decades and slept with his wife and he had to rasie the man child without knowing, some people online are just crazy and stupid 😐
It's more so to do with the fact this was the child he raised and loved and took one thing to come smashing it. Regardless of what he feels for karen or his brother, that child will now be hurt just as much. You see it as crazy and stupid, i see it as someone who can see past origins and see what was formed between the child and him. I won't dog on him about it, but i don't agree with his choice and view. also the guy was stupid enough to forgive her twice for this child. Regardless if he thinks it was his or not, he could have looked past the origins of it, especially if he could look past two previous affairs.
@@C.G.Gaster yea I know what you are saying he's human he must feel pain in his heart to find out a child he for so long loved and cared for isn't his. But the people online who are making so he should just jump to forgive and forget without even healing, his life was hell ever since his brother did one bad thing now he did something so bad he might never want wife or a kid again let alone open his heart to a woman.
@@C.G.Gaster the thing is that if he would've tried to have some kind of relationship with the kid he would've probably need to pay child support which for me feels like a trick of the ex to get money out of him
The kid did absolutely nothing. The kid exists as the result of an affair, but he had nothing to do with it. As far as the son/nephew knew, his dad just left. More than likely, the mother is going to fill his head with all kinds of lies about his uncle/the father who raised him. The kid is just an innocent victim in this scenario. Not saying OP is obligated to stick around. He should have explained to the kid, talked to him. As far as the story sounds, it seems like he just cut the kid off with zero explanation. Quite frankly, the kid is the only one I have any sympathy for. OP was stupid enough to take his wife back after she cheated, twice, and was somehow surprised to find out it happened a third time? The brother and OP's wife are both POS, the parents are enablers. The kid is the only one who did nothing wrong.
Cause it's not the kid's fault who is his biological father, it's straight up cruel to the kid that you raised, not saying that being cheated on isn't, but to me it just seems silly pride to cut your child just because he's not your bio kid
The kid knows OP as his father.. Isn't it cruel to just disapear as a pareant? The kid has no concept of what's going on with the adults.. So what is left for them is absence and hurt.
I fully understand OP, if you are telling a small child about something like that you will have to lie or sugarcoat the whole thing, it's normal that he is not in the mood for that. Let the perpetrator spin the yarn, the kid is bound to find out the thuth eventually.
OP should take some responsibility for taking back someone who not only cheated once, but twice. Forgiveness aside, if there is a pattern, did he think it would change? And was it not for the fact that she cheated on him with his brother, who is to say that he would not have taken her back again? Also, yes he HAD to cut off the child because he and the mother are a package deal. She can explain the absence of 'the father'.
Its been a while since I have belly laughed so hard that I had to stop due to the pain, but when I read that Karen was pestering Caleb for child support, I lost it. This is absurdity cranked to the max
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“Mistakes happen in every relationship.” Lady, you cheated on him a million times with 3 different men lol
Unless the two people are so drunk they mistake each other for their spouses, or one person is b--ging the spouse's identical twin without knowing it, cheating is never a mistake. It's a CHOICE.
At LEAST 3…
"Mistakes happen in every relationship." Lady, it's not a mistake if you do it on PURPOSE, with FULL intent, KNOWING what's going to happen. 'Consequences of your actions' aren't MISTAKES just because you can't pick and choose them.
oh, at least 3 were known
That's not a mistake that's clocking-in like it was her regular job 😂
Edit: Well damn, she actually doing it pretty regularly besides her actual job 💀
Leaving Caleb $1 in the will is also the way to play it in those "cutting a person off" situations. My mom works in a law office and she says that if you straight up leave someone out of your will, sometimes they can play the "oh, they just forgot to put me in in the will!" card and try to contest it, but if you leave just a paltry amount for that specific person to get, it's admittance of, "no, I didn't forget you. Piss off."
“I leave to you, this sad sounding fart!” **sad sounding fart noise**
Lawyer: "you sir get 2 million dollars and a massive house in your father's will"
Caleb:"what about me?"
Lawyer:"oh you get this wet sock" *hands him wet sock*
@@GamesInDesguisehow is it still wet 🤨
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@@VortexVoid6969čvm sock
For one thing, cheating isn't a mistake. It's a willful act. No, these things don't happen in every relationship. Walk away, and if the child isn't yours, don't pay child support. Poor child. He will be the one who will pay for the evil act of his mother and your brother.
Especially marriage. When you’re married you swore an oath to be with your partner under God name
Poor Henry
The mother is worse than her golden baby, for enabling his behavior for so long and, even after everything was said and done, still wanting to enable him after he was disowned. It took the threat of divorce and losing her own stability to stop.
The father, on the other hand... it's sad that he took so long to realize what was wrong with his family, but boy did he make up for it and then some the moment he realized it. THAT was how the mother should've also acted. OP says he's "stubborn", but he's just a man with integrity who doesn't hesitate to do what is right.
About the father: Well ... yeah. He took too much time, but he was most of his time at work. So I would give him some slack. When OP told him about everything, he did the right thing
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I do agree the mother is an enablist but honestly it's atleast ok coz she is now not supporting him which is tough. You also have to realise it is tough coz it's her son, so I would cut some slack
@@eclipsegaming9546 But OP is also her son! You're not supposed to let your son suffer, just because the bully is your other son.
FIRST MISTAKE: forgiving a cheater
I can see why he was drawn to her. Similar with girls who are neglected as child often end up with assholes/chasing "badboys"
@@thecursed01 Which is a red flag and that the more you try to fix someone, the more it ends up becoming your problem, especially if you spend more effort fixing her than she does herself. That's time and energy that could be better spent elsewhere. Sometimes too much empathy can become a bad thing.
@@blacklight1104 i agree. i didn't say it'S the right thing, just an explanation, not justification
I was just adding to your explanation since I know some people are probably gonna empathize with her saying she's a victim, which she's not.
You know what forgiving a cheater tells her/him? "I am CONDONING this behavior and letting you know that you pretty much have my PERMISSION to do it again."
The wife obviously thought she would get away with it because OP took her back two times before when she cheated. I do feel bad for the kid, but it’s totally understandable why OP doesn’t want to raise him anymore. The mother is honestly pathetic. Need I say more
You mean the two times he discovered. Bitch was cheating on him before the marriage with his brother.
Op isn’t all sunshine either! He should have been more stronger and threatening for a older brother
@@CantorHawke He WAS strong what are you talking about? Most of guys in that scenario would end their lives🫤
@@CantorHawkeHe was gaslit for his entire life by his family. Is it really surprising he struggled to stand up for himself for so long?
@@CantorHawke You're pretty stupid. He's been treated as the inferior one and never believed, so what was he meant to do? It took for the brother to slip up in a moment of hubris for the parents to finally see his true colours. Clearly not the brightest bulb.
I like OP's dad, he has strong moral values. He admitted his failure which is mostly due to the mom and punished Caleb in the best way possible.
Usually when moms act like this is because she cheated and Caleb is an affair baby
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Seriously people are saying its cruel to not be in Henrys life? Thats not his child! He has no obligation to that affair baby. Its better for him to forget all about him then to try and raise a child that isn't his. It would breed resentment and anger then abuse.
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I feel for the child mostly. The child will wonder why the parent doesn't want to see them anymore.
@@jdavis7613 I mean yeah I feel bad for the child, but op shouldn't suffer to make a child happy. A child that isn't even his.
@@jdavis7613 Exactly.. As far as the child is concerned op is his father.. that just left him..
Yeah it's better for the adult op but still.. poor kid..
I wonder wheter those internet hypocrites would step up like that to care for a child which is not even theirs.
The sadist in me would've exposed Caleb's dirt on social media.
I must be as bad since if you faltered after typing it all out I'd hit send
Caleb whined that the whole family was s---ting on him, which means someone probably did.
That's sadistic? I'm having siri play doom and Chris benoits theme on loop and the wife and brother would be meeting Satan or Jesus while I rot in jail
That it? Weak. I would've make the dad divorced that bitch he married and we can now go for father-son trip to Thailand. Plus I would tell that kid Henry that his mother is a cheater and that is why OP is no longer his dad.
@@flexjohnson18 I was also gonna say something about being "sadist". But you beat me to it and did it better ... WAY BETTER
Lol, all these cheaters... it's always, "one thing led to another and they can't control themselves..." narcissistic behavior at it's best😂😂
Also, find it hilarious how he got accused of being cruel for not having anything to do with his "son". Seriously?! It must have hurt a lot to make that decision. This wasn't just another man's child. It was his own brother. If he kept the child, he would have a daily living reminder of his brother's betrayal. Not to mention the interactions with his ex. These "internet therapists"... what would they have done if faced with the same situation. I can say assuredly that most would make the same decision he did. Very few would choose the other option.
Leaving a cheater is an act of mercy, not cruelty, because if you make my life hell I'm inclined to repay you in kind.
And they can always “explain”
Stones in cereals so someone breaks all their teeth
*ah, this is just how brothers bond*
Fuck me
He broke the Bro Code a lot. He never love Karen and do it about spite.
Mother is genuinely mentally challenged for saying that 😂
I have a younger brother and the worst thing we did was wrestle a bit. we never messed with each other's food
if boundaries in brothership have not been made, its his fault.
@@domi6125 Caleb was legit the malignant narcissistic psychopath of that family yet THAT'S what you got out of this story?
It sucks when the AP is a sibling.
Even more when they're the BULLY sibling.
Ngl the op is much nicer then me
I'm mad at OP for taking his wife back twice before when she cheated. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me fool me three times I clearly deserve it!!!
He didn't stay the 3rd time........that's besides the point though, he should have left after the 1st time. I don't care what the excuses are, end of relationship for me. Cheating is a line that you just don't cross.
@SilentHotdog28 i didnt say he stayed after the third time. he stayed after she had already cheated twice. So he got fooled three times total. He should have left after number 1 and especially after number 2. Should never have taken 3 times.
@@tracisr 100% I don't get why people think a cheater will then stay faithful......they have no respect for their Spouse.
Some people are blinded by love
Parents really allowed this to continue for way too long, terrible parenting tbh. Dad finally took his side, but that took way too long.
EDIT: "Two occasions where I caught her being unfaithful..." buddy, getting caught once is already enough. Twice? You're just asking for it. I'd much rather be a single parent than raise a child with a terrible person.
It's the Mother who allowed it to continue and kept enabling the AH Brother.
The Father, like every Dad is super busy at work to keep the family alive.
So it's reasonable to see how he was late to realize everything.
When the Father knew the truth he actually sided with OP like every reasonable person.
And he did it every time when had to deal with the sons.
From stopping the other bullies, to the AH Brother stealing money, to the cheating with OP's wife problem.
Only the Mother was at fault for this.
You can't blame the dad here. Everytime he had to deal with the sons, he did things the right way. The only one to blame is the mother here.
The dad was hardly at home. He was the only source of income in the family, the mother is the one that sugar coat Caleb and never discipline him
The dad was partly to blame for taking so long to finally realize, but it was mainly the mom who should get full blame. Cuz as you can tell, even after being exposed to the truth, she still wanted to protect her "baby." She's still enabling him regardless of all the wrongdoings.
And I agree with the cheating. Doing it once can possibly be forgiven, depending on the person. But once they do it a second time, that's it. Cut off. End it.
@@YukitoOnline2:57 he knew. It wasn't like he didn't realise what was happening. There is a massive difference between obliviousness, and wilful ignorance.
The father had just had enough of waiting for Caleb to change.
Newsflash: ignoring the problem made it that way
I mean, it’s painfully obvious that the reason Op’s POS brother acts like this is cause his terrible, enabling mother treats him like he can do no wrong.
But…i’m ngl…i kinda think Op shares some blame here. Imo if someone cheats on you and you take them back, if they cheat on you again i don’t have any sympathy for you…
He thought he was staying for his “son”, he left once it was obvious that wasn’t his kid.
From the first time he caught her cheating, he should have divorce her and do the paternity test. Even I (and I'm a idiot guessing stuff) would have doubts about the child being mine
@@adrianflores7269 I think that if I ever have kids, I'll do a paternity test as soon as they are born.
@@SilentHotdog28it’s fair but at the same time be prepared for a shit show since that heavily implies you think she cheated
@awesomenesskid15 I still don't understand that like anyone can cheat no matter how nice they may seem double checking feels fair when a woman usually doesnt have raise another woman's baby but man may have to
The dad seems really good. He was supporting the younger brother but when he realized it’s not a phase, he did the right thing. I think any good parent would do that. It’s very good if your child opens up to you about their life
Also, if you ever catch your wife for significant other being unfaithful, then you should probably get a DNA check on your child and then break up/ divorce them
Lose the battle and win the war. Nice Job OP
"This is how brothers bond."
No, it's so not. My brother was my best friend. We did just about everything together. He was a great kid, an amazing brother, and the best child.
I only have one brother an we are bond is like I have his back and he have my back
Yeah it’s one thing to bust balls every now and then but it’s just straight up one sided disrespect
"This is how brothers bond" some fights are how they bond,not putting stones in cereals,making life torture, encouraging bullies to bully and the most serious part, THEFT.
I bet if OP did the same thing she wouldn't say the same thing
The people calling him cruel should go and raise the baby of someone that betrayed them
I feel like although it's kinda exaggerated to call him cruel and I don't blame op I still feel terrible for the son, imagine if you where in his situation where your father leaves you because he found out your not his actual son and you had no idea and fully believed you where his child, that would be heartbreaking and even truma inducing. Again I don't blame op at all but I still have sympathy for the son and deeply feel sorrow for him
@@Bella_rrrrrr I agree it will be hard for him to process all of it but I really hate how people are forcing op to push down his feelings and suck it up it feels really scummy
I mean, I can see it from the kid's perspective. Imagine you're really attached to your father, then just one day, He's gone. That kid, if he was attached to OP, will have life long trauma, and perhaps even blame himself for his parents divorce. I just feel for OP and the kid. The wife and the bro in this situation was disgusting.
The father has his faults but he did come to his senses and did right by his son thereafter, I'm impressed.
The father meaning Caleb, or is there a part 2 to this story?
@@richarddickens2438OP's father. He let Caleb slide for a while thinking it was normal, but quickly took action once he saw that Caleb wasn't maturing mentally at all.
His dad is a real fucking one. Full respect to his guy.
"Everyone had been shiting on him"🤣🤣🤣
For how much OP’s mother favored, loved, and protected Caleb even after he was exposed for everything he had done, I figured he would have been an affair baby if they hadn’t already done the paternity tests for Karen’s child.
Am I the only one who thinks this guy sounds like a complete catch?! Like really! He’s smart, successful, determined, and loyal. I feel so bad for this guy cause he sounds like all he’s done in life is give everyone his best and everyone but his dad shut him down.
The way OP described his younger brother in the beginning sounded like he was rather describing the behavior of a younger sister😂
Why should OP be considerate when his own brother wasn't? His own brother didn't even think for a second before sleeping with OP's wife. He must've thought that he won't be blamed since he's the golden child, but he didn't think about how their dad was done with him. OP shouldn't even think about that guy anymore.
My mom told me to kms should I forgive her she ALWAYS DID FAVERTS and well my sister is 4 years older then me and she scream curse and insult my parents she got away I can’t do shit to anyone and my mom is SUPER STRICT like I get hit for FOOTSTEPS
What is OP
@@AhmmadBisheroriginal poster
"At least fight for me"
Lady, he very generously forgave you 2 times. You belong with his brother.
These stories make me happy I have a good family.
"Children shouldn't be raised in a broken home" if you believed that then you wouldn't have done anything to break the home multiple times.
Everyone is giving op shit for going back to the ex but look at how he was raised. His brother was constantly put above him from the people who birthed and raised him. The man never had any chance to really build his self esteem and that’s not including the bullying from school but bullying from his brother as well.
I love these golden child stories 😂
Exactly why more golden child stories on Reddit are starting to pop up. A lot are made up now but still entertaining
We want more of these 😂😂😂😂😂
As a mother I hate how people expect someone to raise a child in a situation like this. F that! If you date a woman and decide to help raise her child that is not yours 🎉🎉🎉. It takes a special partner to do that but, you had a choice. You are not cruel for taking care of yourself and your mental health leaving a liar in the dust. The child is innocent but, they have a father and it his responsibility to take care of his child.
Stepping up and building a parental relationship with a child out of love is worth celebrating.
It’s a far cry from finding out that the child you’ve been raising is the product of your partner’s infidelity, and does not have the inherent paternal tie you’d believed existed. Realizing that your role in that child’s life is based on a lie is a WOUND, and no one should be blamed for needing to step away and heal after it’s been dealt, even if healing means that the parental relationship is never reestablished.
The parents are both bad in this situation, but at least the dad didn't actively defend the actions
Parents are both what?
@@YukitoOnline I ment to say both bad but I was typing it on a tiny phone screen and forgot
@@Joeylikesgames-ku9mx
Oh ok. go edit it then, don't leave it out, edit button is free.
Actually it's all the Mother's fault.
She's one enabling and allowing/defending the AH Brother's actions even to when they're both adults.
The Father like every working Dad actually has no idea until he actually talked to OP.
It's reasonable why he has no idea, he's working his ass off for his wife and 2 kids, no time and energy to know everything.
Once the Father listened and got to the bottom of it, he like every reasonable person sided with OP and actually fix the situation.
From stopping the other bullies at school to scolding the AH Brother when he got punched for stealing OP's money, and to disowning AH Brother and not including him from his will.
@@YukitoOnline oki
They are both as bad as each other. The father ignored the problems
W Dad
For karen: womp womp
so many parents don't stick to it when they "cut off" someone. But it seems like this man draws the line at the sanctity of marriage.
Don't you ever speak to that woman or that child again. A clean break is the quickest path to healing for the child. He has a father.
Felt bad for the guy until he admitted to coming back to a cheater not once but twice
Poor Henry, he lost everything. He was completely.
Innocent and he lost everything😢
He has his dad Caleb
I hate that I can relate. I am the more dependable brother and I am very quiet while my brother talks loudly and has no boundary.
Ok who ever had the audacity to say that he was cruel is messed up even after everything he went through some people still decide to side with the brother. Bro your good don’t feel bad I hope you heal
The wifes an awful human being. Imagine finding out your significant other has an arch nemesis and decide to sleep w them
Can't believe people are calling OP cruel for not wanting to raise Karen and Caleb's son. While I agree a kid shouldn't be punished for their parents' bs, the kid isn't OP's, and he has no obligation to raise another man's child and both Caleb and Karen need to lay in the bed they made
OP should try to burn his mom hair and said "It just a prank bro.". 🙄
Caleb trying to prove himself innocent: " When you, when when you ....did when...you...you..when.when-"
Caleb, oh Caleb, actions have consequences. Live long and suffer.
It's devastating when the people you love the most betray you. I can’t imagine what you're going through, but I hope you find the support you need to heal from this
First mistake: finding a love one in a frat party
CHEATING IS NOT A MISTAKE. CHEATING IS A CRIME DESERVING OF NO FORGIVENESS .
Well,it looks like OP will be responsible for his Mom after his Dad is gone. OP could make his Mom pay for all of those years that she backed the idiot. Although I can see her pleading with OP after his Dad is gone to help/take care of his brother.
Mom should be happy that the task is OPs. She really wouldn't want me to have that responsibility for her.
"yes officer,i was gone to a bath for some minutes and when i came back she was on the ground bleeding with a knife on her chest.....no officer,i had no idea about what happened,but i think she killed herself."
-me, probably
@@hunterthegamerguard4361 😟
mother wanted to pull a "do it for than!" for OPs dad stood on business loool
Stubborn men with strong morals are the bane of manipulative women 😂
Completely fake, but completely entertaining.
Why do you think it’s fake people have unique life experiences
@@FGlover63it sounds like ai thats why
I will say, these help pass time working at amazon.
The creative writing and use of adjectives and colorful language gives it away.@@FGlover63
It’s from Reddit and I couldn’t find his post since he deleted it his account after the final update
You know it's bad if her name is Karen 😂😂
W dad OP lost the battle but won the war
One big change I would have made us sitting down with Henry and explaining to the poor kid how he and OP weren't actually father and son, but rather uncle and nephew.
Too bad the enabler never got her comeuppance.
Your Dad is a Man of Culture!
The stubborness of that dad reminds me of my dad
And his dad, aka my paternal grandpa who is now a free man physically ( his ashes were spread by the breeze of blaine County, ne)
Ah yes, harmlessly flirting with the woman married to your brother. Very harmless.
I'm obsesed with these stories
OP has has such a great father, honestly. Its a shame his wife undermines him at every turn though.
ChatGPT working overtime with these
Even if it is it’s decent 🤷♀️
Still not half bad😂
You are not cruel at all. You made a decision that would be very very hard to do. As long as you do what you feel is right then that is good
Nah, this is BS for a cheating ex-wife to reveal herself and discuss her affair with her husband even though OP is not aware of the relationship between them
Assuming Henry is old enough to remember OP, abandoning Henry is worse than anything Caleb or his ex wife did.
Nah it’s for the best, having a parent around who hates you would have been bad for Henry. OP said that he sees Caleb when he looks at Henry. It’s much better for Henry to be raised by Caleb & the cheating ex-wife. Henry is also very young, he may not even remember OP in the future.
I mean reading shit like this I get how some people end up in jail.
W comment
I listened to this while using the restroom. Before I flushed, I named the poop Caleb
if that was me we would all 3 take a nice relaxing fishing trip , and i would even give them presents (cement shoes) and let them swim with the fish,,,,
Most Chill dad EVER
The achievements are good I'm happy for him strong man scollarship 🙂👍
Nah Op married a Karen 💀😭 Op should have left from the very beginning
Nah dawg married a B O P
I could've sworn the brother's name was David
Yeah no this is so fucking weird that the way the kid acted after he got called out by the dad that's psychopath Behavior he was like wait what do you mean I'm in trouble what do you mean I did something wrong that's not a normal response also why the hell would that be the favorite Child oh my sons just casually attacking burning beating and encouraging people to hurt him and even telling him he should kill himself no I'm going to back this horse
After Ls after Ls, finally this guy can get a rare W. But tbh, grow some backbone if you dont want to end up in these situations. There is a reason for the quote :”Good guy finish last”
Bruh the title legit spoils everything💀
His dad stood on straight BUSINESS!
Funny how the YEARS of torment weren't enough for the parents to pull Caleb up short, but the fucking the wife for years was... I can't imagine how Karen could expect OP to raise the boy when he's Caleb's son. That's wild. Poor OP.
Why should op be responsible for caring for his nephew it isnt his son, the son side maybe sad but whats cruel is to call op cruel for not wanting to live a life based on lies
the father talking to the brother on the phone is the most fake conversation I ever heard.
Your dad is a true man and think about what your brother would do if your parents didn’t know ! And sorry to say he is no bother
Personally I'd take the kid since I raised the child it's whole life and I was lied to I would teach the child to never be like its bio father
You are a disappointment
Respect for his dad for acting just like ny dad 🎉🎉🎊🎊✨️✨️
in my opinion w dad to let his son join mma class
Girl really tried to say Op didn't love her because 'he didn't try to fight for her.' Honey, civilized people don't fight for trash...Like Op very generously forgave you 2 times already because he thought you could grow into better person more than you actually could. You clearly can't just seem to stick with one man, so that man is graciously letting you be free and live whatever life you seem to want.
6:53 She was a karen
I like how the mom when op comes to her to stop the situation. Says she doesn't want to get involved but as soon as little bro says anything she comes running to him like she's his own personal bodyguard 😂🤦
Your biggest mistake was dating someone named “Karen”
Why is the dad kinda the only W character in this ENTIRE STORY.
My name is caleb i would never done this 😮
You did good. Good luck living your life from now on and I hope you stay well 🙏
Glueless. The story of a Simp.
Next time he calls you, call him all the insults he called you as a kid
I understand why you can't see that kid anymore though it's really sad for the kid. I doubt he'll ever see this but maybe he could set up a college fund for him at least he's contributing to the quality of his life even if he's not going to be able to be in it
You can't be serious I'd love to see u raise another man's child wtf is wrong with people
OP and the Dad both deserve better
19:49 now who in there right mind is raising the son of someone who made there life harsh for decades and slept with his wife and he had to rasie the man child without knowing, some people online are just crazy and stupid 😐
If anything, OP is doing his nephew a favor by staying away from him.
It's more so to do with the fact this was the child he raised and loved and took one thing to come smashing it. Regardless of what he feels for karen or his brother, that child will now be hurt just as much. You see it as crazy and stupid, i see it as someone who can see past origins and see what was formed between the child and him. I won't dog on him about it, but i don't agree with his choice and view.
also the guy was stupid enough to forgive her twice for this child. Regardless if he thinks it was his or not, he could have looked past the origins of it, especially if he could look past two previous affairs.
@@C.G.Gaster yea I know what you are saying he's human he must feel pain in his heart to find out a child he for so long loved and cared for isn't his.
But the people online who are making so he should just jump to forgive and forget without even healing, his life was hell ever since his brother did one bad thing now he did something so bad he might never want wife or a kid again let alone open his heart to a woman.
@@C.G.Gaster the thing is that if he would've tried to have some kind of relationship with the kid he would've probably need to pay child support which for me feels like a trick of the ex to get money out of him
Pride always comes before the fall.
I don’t understand how it’s cruel to not raise a cheater’s child that’s not yours
The kid did absolutely nothing. The kid exists as the result of an affair, but he had nothing to do with it. As far as the son/nephew knew, his dad just left. More than likely, the mother is going to fill his head with all kinds of lies about his uncle/the father who raised him. The kid is just an innocent victim in this scenario.
Not saying OP is obligated to stick around. He should have explained to the kid, talked to him. As far as the story sounds, it seems like he just cut the kid off with zero explanation.
Quite frankly, the kid is the only one I have any sympathy for. OP was stupid enough to take his wife back after she cheated, twice, and was somehow surprised to find out it happened a third time? The brother and OP's wife are both POS, the parents are enablers. The kid is the only one who did nothing wrong.
Cause it's not the kid's fault who is his biological father, it's straight up cruel to the kid that you raised, not saying that being cheated on isn't, but to me it just seems silly pride to cut your child just because he's not your bio kid
The kid knows OP as his father.. Isn't it cruel to just disapear as a pareant? The kid has no concept of what's going on with the adults.. So what is left for them is absence and hurt.
I fully understand OP, if you are telling a small child about something like that you will have to lie or sugarcoat the whole thing, it's normal that he is not in the mood for that. Let the perpetrator spin the yarn, the kid is bound to find out the thuth eventually.
@@katelyntaylor7384 That's very fair, thanks😃
OP should take some responsibility for taking back someone who not only cheated once, but twice. Forgiveness aside, if there is a pattern, did he think it would change? And was it not for the fact that she cheated on him with his brother, who is to say that he would not have taken her back again? Also, yes he HAD to cut off the child because he and the mother are a package deal. She can explain the absence of 'the father'.
CUCK
Its been a while since I have belly laughed so hard that I had to stop due to the pain, but when I read that Karen was pestering Caleb for child support, I lost it. This is absurdity cranked to the max