@@billcutting2681no. Because if he kills his brother,he won't be there for his fiancee and even if what he did was the right thing,his own family might press charges
Not justifying the parents but from the sounds of the story the mother did not believe it even happened. Or if it did most likely believed the other son that he was having an 'affair' with his brothers gf rather than what he actually did. Then slowly convinced her husband of the same. I have sadly met plenty of parents who turn a blind eye to their children's wrong actions and stay in denial.
@@user-ix7rj3pc7r Yep, I personally have some shit in my extended family that's more f'ed up than this story. And the parents of the perpetrator also refuse to see what evil their son has done. Even took him in their home after he was released from prison. I think those parents can't face the truth because the truth is that those parents probably had a big part to play in not raising their kid right. They would have to acknowledge their own responsibility in creating a monster.
Amen. Yet, it's sad and disgusting how that's been (and sometimes still is) a generational pattern in some families. Never talk about it, never hold the abuser accountable, just try to rug sweep it to protect the family reputation. I've gotten to see that ish in action first-hand. When I tried to go to my aunt (abusive father's sister) about how said abusive father treated me, she gave me some weak sauce excuse of "That's just how he is". I eventually called her tf out because I know she was once the silenced victim in the family and she had the bold-faced audacity to try and do it to me. Didn't go the way she hoped when I brought that hypocrisy on her part up.
As someone who’s been forced to be at least somewhat be cordial with my aunt, the moment I can she is out of my life and gone. And anyone who wants me to be nice to her again will be gone. They don’t get the right to know me after what she had done. She was verbally and physically abusive to my twin and I (hell my twin once stood up to her for me because I couldn’t anymore at 15 and got into a fight over it. I still remember that day, when I spilled everything to my mother. I’m free and happy now.. not fully because my mom still insists on helping her because she’s her sister even though she hurt us. I don’t get it). I never want to see her again. I don’t get why people defend abusers, I really don’t.
@mortaldao8044 you are far more likely to be graped than be falsely accused of it. 8 accusers means he did it, end of story. You don't get that many accusations from nowhere. Guy is a grapist.
@@jerichonikolai in addition it's not easy to get someone actually convicted of grape. There have to be evidence, eye witnesses, proves that he was there and then. If he was found guilty on all 8, they must had plenty of papers on him.
Brother must’ve been the golden child. In their attempt to protect one guilty son they lost all their kids so enjoy what’s left of your family. Awful family to even ask that of OP. The older brother was lucky he was alive or not yet in prison.
Not necessary..They must have simply done that to save their reputation because they might be afraid if this news about their eldest leaks out they might be accused for bad parenting(just their thought).....Could have been this☝🏻🤷🏻♀️
The judge probably thought that the brother can be happy to be still alive. Also the sister is a hero and badass in that story. Handling such a dance between opposing sites in the same family is hard.
Asking him to forgive a criminal brother is crazy. What he did was a choice of badness. He doesn’t get a free pass. He tried to SA his fiancee and was caught red handed. Then the parents foolishly supported him. Forgiveness in this case wouldn’t help but being investigated and put on rehab
The thing is - even if OP wanted to forgive his brother, it's not his place to decide whether to forgive him or not. OP's fiancee was the one his brother assaulted so it's ultimately up to her whether or not to forgive and forget. OP shouldn't forgive unless his fiancee does. She's the one that can choose to forgive him or not. Tbh I doubt that he'll be forgiven by OP and his fiancee - I wouldn't forgive him if I were in OP or his fiancee's position.
I disagree, his brother broke OP's trust in him by betraying him with an attempt to SA his bride to be. Breaking that brotherly bond of trust is a separate enough injury that OP's forgiveness should be separate from his fiancee's forgiveness instead of a package deal.
What about the gf's "trust" in OPs brother not to try and s assault her? What about breaking the bond OP mentioned about his gf and his brother being close until his brother attacked her? OPs GF is the victim here, not the brother, not the OP. The ACTUAL victim of SA.
You lost me. Even if op's fiance DID forgive that monster I'd never forgive him absolutely not. Even if the assault wasn't directed to him. Op is still a victim by proxy. His own brother cause him such chaos and trauma that most definitely counts as a victim as well. To live with that monster and to now know how much of a monster he was. That's traumatic.
@raelynm3902 Op is a victim by proxy. He lost a brother and a hero asks found out the horrible truth that his brother is a monster. And to witness him in the act. He didn't even hear it from someone. He WITNESSED the love of his life be sexually assaulted by his own brother. If that's not traumatic I don't know what is. Maybe his being a victim isn't on the same wave length as Op's fiance, but don't cast out his feelings like that! They were BOTH VICTIMS.
@@raelynm3902I don't recall saying that her forgiveness wasn't something that was needed. Just that OP isn't automatically required to forgive his brother if his fiance does. Even if she is a saint and forgives the injury done to her that doesn't mean OP should be required to forgive him 'because he wasn't actually the injured party anyway so its not his decision'. He was an injured party and he shouldn't be obligated to forgive that injury if his fiancee decides to forgive the injury done to her. They both have to separately agree to forgive the guy for him to be let off the hook for his awful actions.
This reminds me of my dad. My uncle got arrested years ago for molesting (possibly more) his own children. Yet I still remember him always being around growing up, me being alone with him as a kid and never being told about what he did till I got older. I got so mad at my dad that he risked all of our safety for his disgusting brother. There also was a situation not too long ago where my uncle, his new wife (new as in not his original who’s kids he molested). At the wedding they had a little 5 year old girl and apparently their mom disappeared and now they worked with child services to adopt her. They are also the most impulsive liars you will ever meet and my dad still trusts what they say. After the wedding I asked my dad for their address so I can call CPS, I said if they’re actually working with child services, there won’t be a problem, but if they’re not and that little girl is at risk of being touched/roped than I didn’t want to risk it. My dad flat out refused to, and he was the only one in my family still in contact so it took months till we found out where he worked and I called CPS. Luckily the little girl got taken away, but apparently the neighbors had reported seeing him touching the little girl (they didn’t know his history) 😭 I hope she can be safe and heal from that. I can never forgive my dad though.
If it’s anything like the “communities” I know, I think the mother just wants to save public shame and would rather sacrifice her son and his fiancée than the family’s reputation. Well now she’s got no sons and a bucketful of community shame to contend with.
Something I like about this story is that the OP thought of his brother doing it to others through reddit itself, and posting was the reason he actually got to avenge the victims and his wife Edit: I mean that the redditors suggested the brother did it to others since the brother attempted to do it under the same roof as the OP and many other family members
That's why you press charges. For op's gf sake too. Because deep down she might feel op is part of the family that covered up what happened. Have a police file.
not in this case. Rape/Sexual Assault cases have low conviction rates, and since it's his word vs. hers scenario, there is a large chance the brother would've gotten away(especially because the parents would've most likely defended him) while OP would've gone to jail for certain because of the visible evidence of the assault.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 The damn shame of the low conviction rate is because bastard females lie about being sexually assaulted, groomed, or raped. It puts the real victims in a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" scenario.
The brother sounds like a predator and this was not his first time. The only problem was that he got caught, his not sorry his only sorry he got exposed.
OP and his fiancée were so brave to overcome this trauma, and it really sucks that OP's family weren't supportive. But massive shoutout to OP's sister, a true and pure-hearted sibling right there.
If my family did this, I would be disgusted. The memories from something like this never leave you. You are left with them for the rest of your life, and the feeling of his touch on your skin. I hope op and his fiance are doing better now.
Family or not: abuse is abuse. That monster doesn’t deserve forgiveness. The fact ops own mother and father are willing to give their wicked son free pass is just disgusting.
A drunken kiss attempt I can forgive, put it out of my mind. But this? And then to find out what kind of creep he really is? I can't swear that I wouldn't be in prison for attempted homicide after this.
honestly, the person who originally commented the theory of the brother having a history of s3xually assaulting women deserves an award, because if not for that person, the brother wouldn't have gone to jail, and, maybe worse, op and his fiancé would still be going through the aftermath (or it would've taken a lot longer). but yeah, gg's to that one dude and his comment 👍
I think you'd be happy to know that these types of stories from reddit (this one specifically too) are fake. The theme for these is always "Guy has partner who gets raped, but its by an alien whos actually her father" and then they always cater the rest of the post edits and whatnot to the comments. Its so shitty and its just engagement bait. You'll find these accounts created a while ago with a small amount of posts because they delete all their past attempts of engagement bait when one of them goes viral. The truth is that people who experience this kind of stuff don't post it on reddit for everyone to see. Just some lonely losers faking a very real thing for engagement because thats the only way they get validation.
I must say, OP was VERY LUCKY, he caught the bastard in the start, before he could do the "act", thus stopping a NTR right there, i can only think in how horrible it could have been if his brother was sucessful.
Considering there have been cases of burglars suing for injury while breaking into somewhere and WINNING in this country? (No idea if this happened in the US, but something tells me probably not) Probably not.
@@archangelspythonsthat depends on the state. Some state throw you to jail for a decade of you say something bad to a woman and others gives fines and one year of prison.
In so many of these stories the parents get so caught up trying to protect their Golden Child that in the end they end up losing him and the rest of their children
This is probably the greatest Reddit husband I've ever read about. He's normal. He's there for his wife. He has a normal human reaction to such a terrible monster. I love him and I hope for the best for this couple to heal together and have a nice life
Got a feeling brother decided to so it because she wasn't part of their community, so she was "less" than him To do that right around family leads me to believe mommy and daddy dearest knew, and that brother is a serial offender. EDIT: ffs. Into the woodchipper they go
this reminds me of how i was ass@ulted in my own bed while i was asleep when i was younger and the justice that never happened. My heart goes out to his fiancée/wife and everyone else that sick bastard hurt, its a long road to recovering from such a traumatic experience but when you have the right people in your life it really does help.
about story 1: family is crazy, predators don't usually change (OP's brother is very likely not to). I would be livid if my son tried something like that and he would no longer be considered family.
Sadly a lot of parents doesn't think like that. More common is the same line of thinking for mental illness- "I didn't raise a failure, so they got nothing wrong with them, you are wrong for thinking that" They take it as a offense towards them and how did they raise their child, so denial it is...
The fiancee's comment about feeling threatened everywhere she went in public was too real, I remember finals were going on at the time so I had to just push through it but man I hated how my skin crawled everywhere I went in those first few months
That kiss incident would have been a mistake, but the fact that he actually tried to force his way onto his own brother's fiance, it means that the kiss incident was NOT an accident! If someone did that to my spouse, I'd be in jail for murder
As a victim of sa myself, I'm disgusted with the family trying to push him to forgive. I gave my abuser to his face but that was after nearly 2 decades, 10 of which he wasn't part of my life at all, and a LOT of healing. It was on my terms and no one else's. I forgave, let go of the hurt and rage, and moved on.
I was visibly HAPPY when I heard that the creature pretending to be a brother was sentenced to life in prison. But srsly, EIGHT TIMES, that thing has ZERO self control
Just saw this video and I can’t believe the actions that your brother did. I wish the best for you and hope that your marriage is a long lasting and sound one.
This happened to my best friend. Full assault though. Everyone called her a liar. Fast forward to other groups females friends saying the exact same stuff about the brother that my friend had accused him of. Brother has gone on to r*pe many more and because his Daddy is rich, he is still walking free. The justice system is a joke.
Dude, what the hell was the mother and other family members doing? Like, THE HELL! You think four years is enough to forgive someone like that! 1000 Years isn't enough! I'm glad he's going to stay in jail for the rest or his life and hopefully his inmates make it hard on him in there.
I would tell my mom that I'll forgive him when my fiance feels safe enough to be around him. When she gets over her trauma. When she can feel safe again. That should shut her up.
@the_weird_girl2042 In theory it does seem reasonable enough. For one, fiance might never get over it, and after it happening twice I don't think she would even want to feel safe around him, so no forgivness Second, it would reinforce that the problem isn't "brother touched something mine" but "He assulted a woman and it's unacceptable" Like, maybe it would be easier to understand for delusional mother, but maybe not
@the_weird_girl2042 if you think so. People are different, I would probably hope that the mother is just confused and there is a way to talk to her senses If family really cares it's hard to cut them off... On the other hand if they did care, then it's hard to believe they would just let this whole story happen so maybe your way is cleaner
if I ever decide to have a boyfriend after a nasty break up I am currently experiencing, I want a man who will support me and care about my well being like this guy supports his girlfreind. What a gem! This is what a real man acts like!
He tried to rape someone who'd rejected him. Even if it wasn't his brother it was still unbelievably horrible. The Bible preaches forgiveness but even if I could forgive that person would never be part of my life again. He tried to assault her twice, I highly doubt he wouldn't do it again.
As someone in a similar situation, I believe in forgiveness not for the sake of the perpetrator but for my own. Holding onto this kind of hatred and bitterness changes you as a person, makes you into someone you are not. However, forgiveness doesn’t mean I forget what happened at all. They may have my forgiveness but never my trust again.
As a victim of this type of assault, I sympathise with the fiance a lot. It's never easy to forget something like that. For me, it happened when I was 9 by my grandfather (my dad's step dad) & I'm 23, going on 24, & even though he's dead now, I still have moments where I feel anxious around older men I don't know.
If true I can say at least A. The brother was brought to justice along with the additional figurative cherry on top which is him being tased in the process along with op’s parents being shamed for supporting a rapist; and B. The brother’s daughters’ mother finally saw the light and started to believe the truth enough to help op with his case; and C. That the sister was at least on the side of op from the beginning. Something like that may seem little but it rarely ever is little and even the simple act of siding with someone is a very powerful act in and of itself.
He had to have been a golden child or miracle baby because as parents they should be converting their future daughter in law instead of supporting that waste of a human being
I don't know what is worse: that he did it at least 8 times that could be proven, or that his and the OP's own parents tried to "protect him" from prison.... disgusting!!
Op is a amazing guy n I'm so happy he defended his gf like he did. How dare they ask you to forgive. That's just down right repulsive. NC is the best choice
Remember you can always ask for forgiveness. But you cannot expect a person to forgive just because it's been "this long." Forgiveness is only given when the person had been wronged is ready to forgive. In addition, forgiveness is not something that is easily obtained.
Married man with daughters here, I could never forgive a man who does this, it don't matter who that man is. As for people covering up for them, they're just as bad. I hope op, his fiancé, and all the women who are victims of this can heal and develop a healthy lifestyle that helps them overcome and get stronger from it.
"You have to be a good brother and at least try" Was his brother being a good brother when he did that to his gf? NO!! If he gave that monster a second chance he would take it as a second chance to torture that poor girl again!!
People like your brother will go to hell for that. I know that I'm too young to watch this but I understand completely what you're going through. Don't worry for God will help you no matter what ❤
This happened to me, my grandparents (father side) had custody of me and kept telling me I needed to forgive my biological father for his SA of me for years. That 7 year's is too long to hold a grudge and if he dies without me forgiving him I'll never find peace. I don't care for his feelings now everyone in the family is asking why I cut off everyone? And yes my cousins, brother, grandparents and uncles knew what happened while it was happening too. They can all go to hell.
Some parents will completely overlook the transgressions of their children, because they believe none of that matters. But unfortunately it does matter, and we all have to face accountability for our wrongdoings. In this case, didn't sound like older brother was remorseful at all and that he's entitled to forcing himself onto women. He's where he belongs now.
Comes to a country doesn't want to connect to the natives: we have the same right to live here as anyone else. Yeah, this will bring us all peace and harmony.
--- Tell your parents you will never forgive your brother and now you will go no contact with them. Show the information to the police. Glad the brother is now in jail, too bad about your parents.
I think I can understand the parents because I watched this type of behaviour (Here in a 3rd world country, I dunno if it happens the same in USA) when their children got caught... It doesn't matter if it's SA, thief or unalaving people, they always says that their did nothing wrong, THEY ARE INNOCENT. They can't get that they raised a failure of human being and all the victims he/she left. The parents see their child as a poor baby who made a mistake, go %100 denial and keep it even after the trial. I hope OP never talks to them again.
Hearing about a girl having to smile at her sexual assaulter really hurts me because when I was 11 my mom got married to my stepfather about a few months into the marriage he sexually assaulted me and I had to act like it didn't happen for over a year and once I told my siblings my sister told my mom happened she is still in denial and is still trying to make me forgive him and be close to him so she can have that perfect little family she always wanted so it hurts to see other people have to deal with this I hope you and your fiance are doing OK
My response to the mom wanting forgiveness is “my forgiveness is that he got to live that day, no more than that”
Forgiveness is not a free pass
Hard agree. "Is he breathing? Then there is my forgiveness, do not dare ask more of me than that."
@@ESPHMacD "I can always resend that forgiveness if you'd like"
And that's more forgiveness than he deserves
@@ESPHMacD "My forgiveness is that he is here instead of a cage."
How is his brother even alive, I feel like the betrayal of your own brother doing that rather than a stranger would make me see red.
Damn, his family stopped him
"8 women" ie ambulance chasing / regret snuggle
Because he is a coward, who comes to Reddit and makes a story instead of a well crafted plan, when he knows where the guy lives, and who he is
@@billcutting2681no. Because if he kills his brother,he won't be there for his fiancee and even if what he did was the right thing,his own family might press charges
i mean op did say he beat the shit out of him, if he does anymore, he will be arrested and his gf will be alone
The fact the parents defended the brother really shows some family doesn’t deserve the gathering they think they’re saving in their final moments.
Not justifying the parents but from the sounds of the story the mother did not believe it even happened. Or if it did most likely believed the other son that he was having an 'affair' with his brothers gf rather than what he actually did.
Then slowly convinced her husband of the same.
I have sadly met plenty of parents who turn a blind eye to their children's wrong actions and stay in denial.
@@user-ix7rj3pc7r Yep, I personally have some shit in my extended family that's more f'ed up than this story. And the parents of the perpetrator also refuse to see what evil their son has done. Even took him in their home after he was released from prison.
I think those parents can't face the truth because the truth is that those parents probably had a big part to play in not raising their kid right. They would have to acknowledge their own responsibility in creating a monster.
he probably manipulated them, shove money into their ass during covid, used his kid aslo for manipulation
YOU SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO RECONCILE WITH ABUSERS. FAMILY OR NOT
Amen. Yet, it's sad and disgusting how that's been (and sometimes still is) a generational pattern in some families. Never talk about it, never hold the abuser accountable, just try to rug sweep it to protect the family reputation. I've gotten to see that ish in action first-hand. When I tried to go to my aunt (abusive father's sister) about how said abusive father treated me, she gave me some weak sauce excuse of "That's just how he is". I eventually called her tf out because I know she was once the silenced victim in the family and she had the bold-faced audacity to try and do it to me. Didn't go the way she hoped when I brought that hypocrisy on her part up.
this!!!!
As someone who’s been forced to be at least somewhat be cordial with my aunt, the moment I can she is out of my life and gone. And anyone who wants me to be nice to her again will be gone. They don’t get the right to know me after what she had done. She was verbally and physically abusive to my twin and I (hell my twin once stood up to her for me because I couldn’t anymore at 15 and got into a fight over it. I still remember that day, when I spilled everything to my mother. I’m free and happy now.. not fully because my mom still insists on helping her because she’s her sister even though she hurt us. I don’t get it). I never want to see her again. I don’t get why people defend abusers, I really don’t.
If it's true, it's insane how redditor's commenymade them look into his history and actually get him convinced. Rare justice
We all know those 8 others are all lying
@@mortaldao8044 why are you like this?
@@verakrot"We all know those 8 others are all lying."
Op: 8 victims, including my fiance.
Hold on, he might be on to something.
@mortaldao8044 you are far more likely to be graped than be falsely accused of it. 8 accusers means he did it, end of story. You don't get that many accusations from nowhere. Guy is a grapist.
@@jerichonikolai in addition it's not easy to get someone actually convicted of grape. There have to be evidence, eye witnesses, proves that he was there and then. If he was found guilty on all 8, they must had plenty of papers on him.
The people who insist victims forgive their attackers are the ones who scream the loudest when THEY become victims.
I wonder how those ugly parents would feel if forced to take in a bunch of crooks because they "have nowhere to go"...
Brother must’ve been the golden child. In their attempt to protect one guilty son they lost all their kids so enjoy what’s left of your family. Awful family to even ask that of OP. The older brother was lucky he was alive or not yet in prison.
He doesn't have to be a golden child. Parents often have blinders on when confronted with monstrous things their kids do.
That's not necessarily true ...
Not necessary..They must have simply done that to save their reputation because they might be afraid if this news about their eldest leaks out they might be accused for bad parenting(just their thought).....Could have been this☝🏻🤷🏻♀️
His brother is a monster, but op is with no doubt a good man. Happy to know that all victims got justice.
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The brother's life in prison will probably turn into a death sentence if the inmates find out why he's in there
The justice was too late imo
The judge probably thought that the brother can be happy to be still alive.
Also the sister is a hero and badass in that story. Handling such a dance between opposing sites in the same family is hard.
Asking him to forgive a criminal brother is crazy. What he did was a choice of badness. He doesn’t get a free pass. He tried to SA his fiancee and was caught red handed. Then the parents foolishly supported him. Forgiveness in this case wouldn’t help but being investigated and put on rehab
Rehab => *Prison
The thing is - even if OP wanted to forgive his brother, it's not his place to decide whether to forgive him or not. OP's fiancee was the one his brother assaulted so it's ultimately up to her whether or not to forgive and forget. OP shouldn't forgive unless his fiancee does. She's the one that can choose to forgive him or not. Tbh I doubt that he'll be forgiven by OP and his fiancee - I wouldn't forgive him if I were in OP or his fiancee's position.
I disagree, his brother broke OP's trust in him by betraying him with an attempt to SA his bride to be. Breaking that brotherly bond of trust is a separate enough injury that OP's forgiveness should be separate from his fiancee's forgiveness instead of a package deal.
What about the gf's "trust" in OPs brother not to try and s assault her? What about breaking the bond OP mentioned about his gf and his brother being close until his brother attacked her? OPs GF is the victim here, not the brother, not the OP. The ACTUAL victim of SA.
You lost me. Even if op's fiance DID forgive that monster I'd never forgive him absolutely not. Even if the assault wasn't directed to him. Op is still a victim by proxy. His own brother cause him such chaos and trauma that most definitely counts as a victim as well. To live with that monster and to now know how much of a monster he was. That's traumatic.
@raelynm3902 Op is a victim by proxy. He lost a brother and a hero asks found out the horrible truth that his brother is a monster. And to witness him in the act. He didn't even hear it from someone. He WITNESSED the love of his life be sexually assaulted by his own brother. If that's not traumatic I don't know what is. Maybe his being a victim isn't on the same wave length as Op's fiance, but don't cast out his feelings like that! They were BOTH VICTIMS.
@@raelynm3902I don't recall saying that her forgiveness wasn't something that was needed. Just that OP isn't automatically required to forgive his brother if his fiance does. Even if she is a saint and forgives the injury done to her that doesn't mean OP should be required to forgive him 'because he wasn't actually the injured party anyway so its not his decision'. He was an injured party and he shouldn't be obligated to forgive that injury if his fiancee decides to forgive the injury done to her. They both have to separately agree to forgive the guy for him to be let off the hook for his awful actions.
This reminds me of my dad. My uncle got arrested years ago for molesting (possibly more) his own children. Yet I still remember him always being around growing up, me being alone with him as a kid and never being told about what he did till I got older. I got so mad at my dad that he risked all of our safety for his disgusting brother.
There also was a situation not too long ago where my uncle, his new wife (new as in not his original who’s kids he molested). At the wedding they had a little 5 year old girl and apparently their mom disappeared and now they worked with child services to adopt her. They are also the most impulsive liars you will ever meet and my dad still trusts what they say. After the wedding I asked my dad for their address so I can call CPS, I said if they’re actually working with child services, there won’t be a problem, but if they’re not and that little girl is at risk of being touched/roped than I didn’t want to risk it. My dad flat out refused to, and he was the only one in my family still in contact so it took months till we found out where he worked and I called CPS.
Luckily the little girl got taken away, but apparently the neighbors had reported seeing him touching the little girl (they didn’t know his history) 😭 I hope she can be safe and heal from that. I can never forgive my dad though.
Also, when I told my dad I had called CPS on them he said “I knew you wanted to tear that family apart”.
That’s horrible. Thank you for trying to save that little girl.
Dude I'm so sorry he's your dad
@@anubishound8179 ya, I love my mom but I don’t go home very often 😅
@@deztheray8935bro that’s downright insane, I’m sorry but what is wrong with your dad coz that’s just nasty 😭
If it’s anything like the “communities” I know, I think the mother just wants to save public shame and would rather sacrifice her son and his fiancée than the family’s reputation. Well now she’s got no sons and a bucketful of community shame to contend with.
How the brother is free
He should be rotting in jail
are you referring tthe first mentioned in the post? the OP had already addressed that
He isn’t lol
Something I like about this story is that the OP thought of his brother doing it to others through reddit itself, and posting was the reason he actually got to avenge the victims and his wife
Edit: I mean that the redditors suggested the brother did it to others since the brother attempted to do it under the same roof as the OP and many other family members
Thank god for the people who were smart enough to recognize that.
That's why you press charges. For op's gf sake too. Because deep down she might feel op is part of the family that covered up what happened. Have a police file.
Op's lawyer is right. There was no evidence of what the brother did, but there is obvious evidence of what he did
not in this case. Rape/Sexual Assault cases have low conviction rates, and since it's his word vs. hers scenario, there is a large chance the brother would've gotten away(especially because the parents would've most likely defended him) while OP would've gone to jail for certain because of the visible evidence of the assault.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 The damn shame of the low conviction rate is because bastard females lie about being sexually assaulted, groomed, or raped. It puts the real victims in a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" scenario.
The brother sounds like a predator and this was not his first time.
The only problem was that he got caught, his not sorry his only sorry he got exposed.
What an awful family (The people supporting the brother)
golden child
OP and his fiancée were so brave to overcome this trauma, and it really sucks that OP's family weren't supportive. But massive shoutout to OP's sister, a true and pure-hearted sibling right there.
That’s insane. To think that 8 peoples lives are completely changed and affected because of 1 man is insane
If my family did this, I would be disgusted. The memories from something like this never leave you. You are left with them for the rest of your life, and the feeling of his touch on your skin. I hope op and his fiance are doing better now.
Brother would never make it out of town if that was my fiancee..
Forget out of town, he wouldn't have made it out of the house
@@sharkeatinpizza Forget the house, bro wouldn't make it out of his room.
@@ariaslackOr the bed
Family or not: abuse is abuse. That monster doesn’t deserve forgiveness. The fact ops own mother and father are willing to give their wicked son free pass is just disgusting.
A drunken kiss attempt I can forgive, put it out of my mind. But this? And then to find out what kind of creep he really is? I can't swear that I wouldn't be in prison for attempted homicide after this.
honestly, the person who originally commented the theory of the brother having a history of s3xually assaulting women deserves an award, because if not for that person, the brother wouldn't have gone to jail, and, maybe worse, op and his fiancé would still be going through the aftermath (or it would've taken a lot longer). but yeah, gg's to that one dude and his comment 👍
I think you'd be happy to know that these types of stories from reddit (this one specifically too) are fake. The theme for these is always "Guy has partner who gets raped, but its by an alien whos actually her father" and then they always cater the rest of the post edits and whatnot to the comments. Its so shitty and its just engagement bait. You'll find these accounts created a while ago with a small amount of posts because they delete all their past attempts of engagement bait when one of them goes viral.
The truth is that people who experience this kind of stuff don't post it on reddit for everyone to see. Just some lonely losers faking a very real thing for engagement because thats the only way they get validation.
Would OP's mom deny what her son did if he had done what he did to a kid?
Probably
as long as that son of hers gave her grandbabies
I heard about similar cases before, the family usually tries to cover it up. It doesn't matter to them even if it's a child
She wouldn’t be so forgiving if he’d done it to his own sister
yeppppp
I must say, OP was VERY LUCKY, he caught the bastard in the start, before he could do the "act", thus stopping a NTR right there, i can only think in how horrible it could have been if his brother was sucessful.
Imagine the mom didn't force OP to reconcile with his brother, that guy might have escaped the consequences. Props to mom!
Hmm the brother running from the cops shows he did do something shady
"Why doesn't our son see us anymore?"
Just wait. They'll pull that some day. Smfh
That lawyer friend is an idiot, there is no way he would be arrested for acting to prevent a rape.
Considering there have been cases of burglars suing for injury while breaking into somewhere and WINNING in this country? (No idea if this happened in the US, but something tells me probably not)
Probably not.
@@SwiftGale1 well, he tried to bring his brother down with him, and the judge told him to sit down and shut up
Because there were 8 victims and his injuries were no longer there.
I'm pretty sure this was in a different country besides the U.S and some countries (Japan for example) really couldn't care less about S.A
@@archangelspythonsthat depends on the state. Some state throw you to jail for a decade of you say something bad to a woman and others gives fines and one year of prison.
In so many of these stories the parents get so caught up trying to protect their Golden Child that in the end they end up losing him and the rest of their children
This is probably the greatest Reddit husband I've ever read about. He's normal. He's there for his wife. He has a normal human reaction to such a terrible monster. I love him and I hope for the best for this couple to heal together and have a nice life
Got a feeling brother decided to so it because she wasn't part of their community, so she was "less" than him
To do that right around family leads me to believe mommy and daddy dearest knew, and that brother is a serial offender.
EDIT: ffs. Into the woodchipper they go
Yes and amber turd never lied about Johnny Depp. Those 8 others all exaggerated. At worst it was regret snuggling after drinking
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fake news
Depends on if the other victims were the same. I think he is more an opportunistic criminal than anything else.
If OP's parents did know about this, then they could be charges as accomplices to his brother.
this reminds me of how i was ass@ulted in my own bed while i was asleep when i was younger and the justice that never happened. My heart goes out to his fiancée/wife and everyone else that sick bastard hurt, its a long road to recovering from such a traumatic experience but when you have the right people in your life it really does help.
I'm so sorry that had happened. I wish the best for you, and justice to be held against the attacker.
Jackass was bold enough to do this in a house full of people. The audacity and horror.
Bro ruined the brothers life and sent him to prison forever 😂😂😂
he ruined his own life
about story 1: family is crazy, predators don't usually change (OP's brother is very likely not to). I would be livid if my son tried something like that and he would no longer be considered family.
Sadly a lot of parents doesn't think like that. More common is the same line of thinking for mental illness-
"I didn't raise a failure, so they got nothing wrong with them, you are wrong for thinking that"
They take it as a offense towards them and how did they raise their child, so denial it is...
Jesus Christ. What an absolute nightmare. Thank GOD that monster is behind bars.
This guy is a real ally and one of the reasons i still have hope for humanity
Trust isn't something that can easily be repaired. That's why the poster from the first story isn't talking with his brother.
I am so sorry that this happened to your fiancee and those other women. Glad justice was found.
The fiancee's comment about feeling threatened everywhere she went in public was too real, I remember finals were going on at the time so I had to just push through it but man I hated how my skin crawled everywhere I went in those first few months
That kiss incident would have been a mistake, but the fact that he actually tried to force his way onto his own brother's fiance, it means that the kiss incident was NOT an accident! If someone did that to my spouse, I'd be in jail for murder
Your fiance is very kind and loyal she fought back ur brother when he tried to r0pe her she is very loyal
As a victim of sa myself, I'm disgusted with the family trying to push him to forgive. I gave my abuser to his face but that was after nearly 2 decades, 10 of which he wasn't part of my life at all, and a LOT of healing. It was on my terms and no one else's. I forgave, let go of the hurt and rage, and moved on.
I was visibly HAPPY when I heard that the creature pretending to be a brother was sentenced to life in prison. But srsly, EIGHT TIMES, that thing has ZERO self control
Just saw this video and I can’t believe the actions that your brother did. I wish the best for you and hope that your marriage is a long lasting and sound one.
The parent’s reaction makes me think that this wasn’t the first time that this had happened.
Post Update- Called it!
This happened to my best friend. Full assault though. Everyone called her a liar. Fast forward to other groups females friends saying the exact same stuff about the brother that my friend had accused him of. Brother has gone on to r*pe many more and because his Daddy is rich, he is still walking free. The justice system is a joke.
“Now-that-human-excuse-for-a-brother is gone” made me crack up 😂
That poor niece: she'd been dragged into a toxic situation 😔
*I wish her the safest childhood*
Dude, what the hell was the mother and other family members doing? Like, THE HELL! You think four years is enough to forgive someone like that! 1000 Years isn't enough! I'm glad he's going to stay in jail for the rest or his life and hopefully his inmates make it hard on him in there.
I would tell my mom that I'll forgive him when my fiance feels safe enough to be around him. When she gets over her trauma. When she can feel safe again. That should shut her up.
@the_weird_girl2042 In theory it does seem reasonable enough. For one, fiance might never get over it, and after it happening twice I don't think she would even want to feel safe around him, so no forgivness
Second, it would reinforce that the problem isn't "brother touched something mine" but "He assulted a woman and it's unacceptable"
Like, maybe it would be easier to understand for delusional mother, but maybe not
@the_weird_girl2042 if you think so. People are different, I would probably hope that the mother is just confused and there is a way to talk to her senses
If family really cares it's hard to cut them off... On the other hand if they did care, then it's hard to believe they would just let this whole story happen so maybe your way is cleaner
if I ever decide to have a boyfriend after a nasty break up I am currently experiencing, I want a man who will support me and care about my well being like this guy supports his girlfreind. What a gem! This is what a real man acts like!
OP should say "you want forgiveness? Get religion"
Which religion? I think that is the issue…
@@woocashwombat3897 it's a quote from Spider-man 3
It's implying that you'll only get forgiveness from religion
@@woocashwombat3897Christianity.
He tried to rape someone who'd rejected him. Even if it wasn't his brother it was still unbelievably horrible. The Bible preaches forgiveness but even if I could forgive that person would never be part of my life again. He tried to assault her twice, I highly doubt he wouldn't do it again.
It preqches forgivness yes but alao that some crimes are beyond forgivness
It's horrifying to expect this from parents & brother....
As someone in a similar situation, I believe in forgiveness not for the sake of the perpetrator but for my own. Holding onto this kind of hatred and bitterness changes you as a person, makes you into someone you are not. However, forgiveness doesn’t mean I forget what happened at all. They may have my forgiveness but never my trust again.
There’s no way that’s the same person, before this incident the brother seemed like the perfect human being!?!
Its crazy how people can forgive horrible crimes because of family bonds.
As a victim of this type of assault, I sympathise with the fiance a lot. It's never easy to forget something like that. For me, it happened when I was 9 by my grandfather (my dad's step dad) & I'm 23, going on 24, & even though he's dead now, I still have moments where I feel anxious around older men I don't know.
I really wonder how much the parents knew about the brother
W for the Judge
If true I can say at least A. The brother was brought to justice along with the additional figurative cherry on top which is him being tased in the process along with op’s parents being shamed for supporting a rapist; and B. The brother’s daughters’ mother finally saw the light and started to believe the truth enough to help op with his case; and C. That the sister was at least on the side of op from the beginning. Something like that may seem little but it rarely ever is little and even the simple act of siding with someone is a very powerful act in and of itself.
The parents were so happy to ‘keep the peace,’ op I would’ve been in jail
Crazy that he was put away forever for rape, America court system makes that basically impossible
I hope all these girls are okay and have gotten over their trauma.
God bless 🩷✝️
I cannot believe he has a daughter tho
I don't think he would've gotten into too much trouble. He was stopping an attacker. I would hope they wouldn't bring a case against him.
He had to have been a golden child or miracle baby because as parents they should be converting their future daughter in law instead of supporting that waste of a human being
I can only imagine how peaceful the wedding would be with a monster in jail and no one around who supported him
Family or not, they shouldve sue, for reasons 1) she would feel fully protected and 2) lessons that all actions have repercussions.
I don't know what is worse: that he did it at least 8 times that could be proven, or that his and the OP's own parents tried to "protect him" from prison.... disgusting!!
Op is a amazing guy n I'm so happy he defended his gf like he did. How dare they ask you to forgive. That's just down right repulsive. NC is the best choice
Op gave his brother hell and if Op's brother is in jail the inmates will give it to him roping doesn't fly in prison
My family ever told Me to forgive in that situation and you'd be able to watch my anger build in an actual moment.
Forgive someone that assaulted my partner? Absolutely not. If this was my brother, he'd be lucky enough to walk again after im done
OHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. NOOOOOOO. bro would not be in the hospital,if it were me he would be in his GRAVE
Remember you can always ask for forgiveness.
But you cannot expect a person to forgive just because it's been "this long." Forgiveness is only given when the person had been wronged is ready to forgive.
In addition, forgiveness is not something that is easily obtained.
Married man with daughters here, I could never forgive a man who does this, it don't matter who that man is. As for people covering up for them, they're just as bad. I hope op, his fiancé, and all the women who are victims of this can heal and develop a healthy lifestyle that helps them overcome and get stronger from it.
"You have to be a good brother and at least try" Was his brother being a good brother when he did that to his gf? NO!! If he gave that monster a second chance he would take it as a second chance to torture that poor girl again!!
Anyone else get chills with the OPs last words?
He is lucky he survived and don’t do anything to the girl YET I’m happy he came in time to save her
I need therapy for anger issues but was never given therapy
15:40 bro is actually struggling so with trapped doors lmao
didn't expect the family to start gaslighting
People like your brother will go to hell for that. I know that I'm too young to watch this but I understand completely what you're going through. Don't worry for God will help you no matter what ❤
There is no second chance. You assault your own brothers fiancé, that relationship is dead. He’s lucky to be alive.
This story is horrible but I’m happy it has a kinda happy ending
Also W Sister through all this
"He was not itimidated by the local children"
*DAMN BRO TF DID THE CHILDREN DO TO YOU?*
For future reference dont go to parties where alcohol is the norm
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This happened to me, my grandparents (father side) had custody of me and kept telling me I needed to forgive my biological father for his SA of me for years.
That 7 year's is too long to hold a grudge and if he dies without me forgiving him I'll never find peace.
I don't care for his feelings now everyone in the family is asking why I cut off everyone?
And yes my cousins, brother, grandparents and uncles knew what happened while it was happening too.
They can all go to hell.
Some parents will completely overlook the transgressions of their children, because they believe none of that matters. But unfortunately it does matter, and we all have to face accountability for our wrongdoings.
In this case, didn't sound like older brother was remorseful at all and that he's entitled to forcing himself onto women. He's where he belongs now.
Comes to a country doesn't want to connect to the natives: we have the same right to live here as anyone else.
Yeah, this will bring us all peace and harmony.
--- Tell your parents you will never forgive your brother and now you will go no contact with them. Show the information to the police. Glad the brother is now in jail, too bad about your parents.
I think I can understand the parents because I watched this type of behaviour (Here in a 3rd world country, I dunno if it happens the same in USA) when their children got caught... It doesn't matter if it's SA, thief or unalaving people, they always says that their did nothing wrong, THEY ARE INNOCENT. They can't get that they raised a failure of human being and all the victims he/she left.
The parents see their child as a poor baby who made a mistake, go %100 denial and keep it even after the trial. I hope OP never talks to them again.
Hearing about a girl having to smile at her sexual assaulter really hurts me because when I was 11 my mom got married to my stepfather about a few months into the marriage he sexually assaulted me and I had to act like it didn't happen for over a year and once I told my siblings my sister told my mom happened she is still in denial and is still trying to make me forgive him and be close to him so she can have that perfect little family she always wanted so it hurts to see other people have to deal with this I hope you and your fiance are doing OK
“You want forgiveness? Get religion.”