GMC Canyon AT4 vs. Sierra AT4X: Does Nearly Twice the Money Get You Double the Truck?
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- ( www.alltfl.com/) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! GMC now has solid off-road AT4 and AT4X models of both the midsize Canyon and the full-size Sierra. The full-size Sierra AT4X costs nearly twice as much as the base Canyon AT4 though, so...do you get twice the truck for the money? Nathan takes a closer look comparing both trucks so you can see which is right for you!
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The problem with a 91k super capable off road truck is that you're afraid to take it off road and damage it
Both of these I would be very hesitant to take off road.
They're also not really collectible. They should depreciate normally compared to TRX and Raptor/Raptor R. They won't be special at an auction. Full-size trucks over 70k are still weird to me. I have no idea why I would do that.
Will have more fun with a $5000 ATV
You might be, but there are plenty of people who use their trucks, no matter the trim, for the intended purpose
@@malcolmn.5222 plenty of people like 0.1%? At least as far as legit offroading goes.
$50k for the Sierra sure. $50k for a midsize and $90k for a half ton..... These prices are beyond insane.
50k for a fully loaded full size? This isn't 2001 😂
@@hewster1right my sierra Denali was 47k in 2002
People accepting this as the norm like the one commenter is part of the problem.
@chazman4461 again, this isn't 2001
@@chazman4461 Nah, you idiots that think technology, luxury and capability should improve while costs decrease are just delusional. Weirdos even. I wish you trolls move on already tbh.
Agreed, I'd take two Canyon's vice one AEV. I just don't see the value in the AEV add-ons. Even comparing the straight Sierra AT4X @ $81.7K vs. the Canyon AT4X @ $57K, I would go Canyon. I can do a lot with an extra $25K. The only reason not to is the need to carry five people more comfortably or the need for more cargo/towing. For a most constant off-roader's, not a common occurrence. Not saying it doesn't, just not as common.
Nah
And this is exactly how I got priced out of the truck market 😂
Everybody who works for a living is with you. Pickups used to be affordable work tools for people who actually needed them. Farmers, tradesmen, and other manual labor work. Now people with office jobs are taking out 96 month loans just to have a truck for their daily commute and their once-a-year camping trip.
@@rw0037wtf are you talking about?? These automakers still make trucks in the 30k and 40k price range. Plenty of affordable trucks. Stop judging the market off the top trim levels. They still make basic work trucks.
They still make tons of affordable trucks. This trim level is just not for you it sounds like.
@@malcolmn.5222simp harder for the OEMs. $91k for a truck that cost them 1/3 of that to make. You also need to make $300k/year to responsibly afford these trucks. GMC is straight up taking advantage of people
Yes by trying to purchase a top of the line _AT4X_ when you’re financially a SLT type of guy.
I like bells and whistles, I also like value and reliability. Im just not finding enough value in either case, I still can’t justify a mortgage payment for a depreciating asset
Define “mortgage payment”. Your type loves to speak for the masses and are simultaneously so *out of touch* with the masses.
I’m speaking for myself G rated, if people agree with me, there must be some truth in what I’m saying. If you don’t like what I’m saying, just ignore it and move on - easy
@@ribbit1964 Sir, please. *Trolls* agree with what you’re saying and they don’t require any logic before they’ll hop on your bandwagon. Any vehicle you purchase in life will be a “depreciating asset, doesn’t matter how much you’re willing to spend. Stop trying to make your budget American auto manufacturer’s issue. This ain’t a Nissan or a Hyundai, it’s a *GMC,* luxury trucks from an actual luxury brand.
If you truly value bells & whistles you’ll realize GMC offers the best value of them and innovative technology for your money. No one is putting a gun to anyone’s head and asking them to justify the price of a new Range Rover, it’s the same for GMC. You either must have one or you don’t.
@ribbit I was thinking the same thing… nice trucks but for the same price in payments as my house… just doesn’t appeal to me as much either.. maybe a decent used one when they lose there value. I gave up hope trying to buy a new truck.. an I make 100k a year… 😅.
$50k ? $91k? Both are stupidly over priced. The entire automotive industry has reached a state reminiscent of "Potlatch"
Corporate Greed🤬
So what would be the appropriate price? Keep in mind this is a top of the line trim level so the average person isn't buying this trim. I wish people would stop crying about trim packages they were never going to by. You can get a truck in today's time for almost 30k brand new.
@introvert4everfreddy656 this isn't corporate greed, this is how much this stuff cost. These mid size trucks are more capable than full size trucks were from about 15 to 20 plus years ago.
@@malcolmn.5222 so you must be rich then 💰 💴 💵😆
$50,000 and you still can't compete with a Denali.
The rule of paying 1/3 of your annual income for a vehicle indicates that you should make nearly $300,000 to afford the big GMC. Way out of my tax bracket.
Out of most blue collar workers price range 😢🛻
@@tomstarcevich1147why would blue collar workers want to buy the most expensive truck made by a luxury brand in the first place? Of course it’s nice, but GM also has Chevy and other trucks that better fit that demographic. Why should all trucks be made to accommodate the lowest common denominator?
@@AA-vr8ezfair point.
@@shiftymcgee9359no, it’s _not_ a “fair point”. It’s pretty much *common sense* and the quicker TFL stops posting this propaganda anti *gm* bullshxt the quicker all of these trolls that closely follow them will evacuate their channel ways. So tired of these bogus arguments within these recycled comments.
@@AA-vr8ez the tree goes
Chevy - Workers
GMC - Foreman
Buick - Foreman's wife
Cadillac - Company owner
Colorado Trail Boss is still best bang for your buck out of the new GM truck offerings. Just make sure you get it with cruise control. 🤣
I'd be interested to see a real world off-roading comparison. I suspect that with comparable tires, the Canyon AT4 will go anywhere that the Sierra AT4X will go in the off-roading that most people do.
Off roading? Get yourself a Jeep. My 997 modified jeep wrangler will dance around there high priced trucks all day long, every day of the week. However if you need towing capacity and "some" off roading capability then the Colorado or canyon is a good purchase.
I will never pay 100k for a pickup. Unfortunately I don't think I will go back to a midsize truck again. So that means something in between.
All these “off road” trims and no one ever really takes them off road. All these trims are just a marketing strategy that’s apparently been working. Most dudes just want a lifted 4x4 truck for the look and never take it anywhere more than a dirt road that doesn’t even require 4x4.
Nice trucks but for 91k I'd much rather buy a more capable trx
Then add 30k. You're not touching a TRX off the showroom floor for less than 115 K
This is why my 10 year old Sierra is still worth just about what I paid for it. Who is going to pay $90k for a truck and then beat the crap out of it off-road? Those things aren't going to see a speck of mud until they get to their third owners. The first 100k miles will be for stuff you could have done with a minivan.
GM midsize are the most capable off-road trucks they make. The 1500 and up are watered-down versions of the ZR2/AT4X formula. For true off-road abuse, I'll take the smaller Canyon over the Sierra any day of the week.
Truck pricing is just insane. I dont think that Sierra costs $30k to manufacture. At some point these companies are going to run out of idiots who will pay that.
The 2021 Toyota Landcruiser is also a $90,000 truck. If you compare capabilities, exterior, interiors, etc. I can definitely see where the $90k in the Sierra AT4X went. But TFL rather you discuss _GMC’s_ profit margin, a luxury brand, instead of Toyota’s profits.
Offroad trucks have become like boats, RVs and general aviation just stupid. The typical ordinary modest options of years past, hd frame, shocks, lift, protection, lockers, knobbies, recovery points and fog lamps are marketed with a great deal of vanity and priced for only stupid people. Maybe $3000 worth of gear on the production line doubles the cost to the consumer.
It is easy to see why GM is going broke. The marketers see customers as rare brain dead prey.
I bought the red 23 Canyon AT4 completely loaded with every package available. I paid $47k as it was a GMC executive loaner with 5k miles on it. The truck is fantastic! I couldn’t imagine paying for this guys big brother, plus this one barely fits in my garage….that one would never fit.
$50k for the Canyon, it still isn't the top of the line and you dont even get a physical headlight switch. Nah.
I just bought the canyon at4x. Absolutely love it
GM (and others) are asking stupid money for the their full size trucks and SUVs. With few deals if you're not a GM Employee. And until people stop being willing to pay it, here we are.
Both are nice, but not worth what the dealers are trying to sell them for. Frankly it’s way out of hand to purchase a new truck. Prices have gone so high due to just plain greed. We need a change when it comes to these prices, there needs to be a fall and correction. People who purchase these truck payments won’t be able to afford or get tired of trying to afford such an ridiculous amount per month. The greed will continue until people just stop buying.
I would like to know just how much profit margin there is these trucks for GM. I would guess 25 to 30 percent.
You just wanna know *gm’s* profit margin on half-tons and no one else? Consider your job well done, TFL! Smh. The hate and bias is getting to be _very_ ridiculous. 😂
@@G-Rated GM is the subject at hand here. Of course I realize all trucks create great profits for all the manufacturers , that is why many quit making 2 and 4 door cars like Ford.
@@christophertyacke6019 so my point is, not only does *gm* offer the most luxury, tech, and comfort for your money but they boast the most innovative and useful features as well. The development costs for something like the Sierra’s Multi-Pro tailgate vs. RAM’s “barn door” 🤔 is night and day. The same with *gm’s* choice of developers for software. They’ve been going above and beyond with attention to detail, graphics, and animations. They were the first to integrate Google services straight into their mainstream trucks/vehicles, the others just recently catching on. So it’s just hilarious how you guys allow TFL to gaslight you into opening your little investigations into *gm.* The value is there and has been there for some time now. It’s time to stop the theatrics and give the folks their credit.
Crazy cause back in the day 49k got you a nice fully loaded full size truck, I’ve been wanting another truck for a while now. Looks like I’ll just spend that money on property instead. Also back in the day was less than 10 years ago. Smh
Back in the day was 2019 lol I got ram rebel fully loaded for like 45k. Today the same rebel is almost 75k
@@evo1video I bought a fully loaded 2021 rebel for 53k used low miles thought it was a good deal. considering new trucks are 70k plus
Meh. Sounds like a way to lose wealth financing either of these. Pro tip: Gently used 2020 or newer Nissan Titan "XD" Pro4x fully loaded for mid $40K. Non convenience packages in the high $30Ks, sub $40K. Nissan provides a handsome warranty too! Towing, payload numbers and real world towing outperforms these gimmicky pickups. Last of the good old school V8 pickups.
What Fool spends this much $$$ to jump ditches and climb rocks??? Can not be that large of a buyers group for GM to focus so much on off-roading.
Am i the only one who finds it ironic that the speakers in the Sierra's tailgate are Kickers, since that's likely what will happen with placing speakers on the back of the fold down step? To echo the other comments, holy price tag batman!
Wow... prices are INSANE 😮
I have a 3500 AT4 and just picked up the Canyon AT4x and it's my new favorite truck gonna have this one awhile
For $91k, I require a truck that can haul 8' lumber in the bed w/o it sticking out past the tailgate.
These are open-trunk cars, and I loathe them, especially at those prices.
problem with GM front lockers is they only work in 4L (atleast in zr2/at4x canyon), and the g80 is a better option IMO, lasts forever and kicks in automatically when needed. and then there is the lifter issues on 5.3/6.2 still not addressed. Aside from engine note, love my '24 at4 canyon. sad, the 5.3/6.2 were amazingly reliable until the emissiosn garbage was stuff into them, the 2.7 was designed around it with less to fail..time will tell. Unions and tarrifs are diving these costs up to the point people just wont buy them. Something like the BYD Shark from China is going to gut the big 3 mid size truck market if it ever gets into the big 3 markets.
I like the canyon. Wish there was push button lockers, bigger tire options
I am so glad he put both trucks next to each other, 'cause. I have always said that Canyon was a giant truck to be a midsized. but no longer.
Challenge for TFL. Take my 99 Silverado and see what it takes to make it as nice as the AT4X, within reason. High output GM motor, front locker, fox shocks, update interior, fresh paint
Your 99 Silverado would be able to be at least similar for far less money… an it’ll feel better going off road in it more so than one of these lol.
I think both trucks look great. But for the money, I would go with the new Toyota Tacoma Trail Hunter with the hybrid.
If had the money I'll definitely get the sierra. The bigger the better !
Who needs those rear bumper foot steps? Grandpa?
The demographic for someone who can (or should) afford a $91k truck is most likely 60+
Crazy how in 2019 i paid 45k for a level 2 equipment group ram rebel and today a level 1 equipment group rebel is around 75k
Realize how nobody in the comments even bothered to answer the question of are we getting more in the Sierra AT4X than the cheaper Canyon AT4. The answer is *absolutely!* You can look at the Sierra and see where the money is going honestly, but the type of guys who are fans of this channel would never admit this. Hence the comment section, they’re going to complain regardless.
TFL’s fan base is slowly turning into a grandpa gang of crying bxtching and nagging middle aged and grumpy older men who don’t think they should have to pay a penny more than they did 20+ years ago on a truck for it’s state of the art technology which they can’t grasp in order to properly operate.
Wow, both the GMC Canyon AT4 and Sierra AT4X look like amazing trucks!
I’d trade several body parts to have a Canyon AT4X with the 6.2L/10sp combo.
Let's be honest and compare the two equally. The GMC Canyon AT4X edition 1 is close to 70k OTD and doesn't have all the extras that Sierra has. To me, the Sierra is a better value.
It is, and you’re absolutely right TFL knows which Canyon competes with this trim of Sierra but they have an agenda and a narrative to help push to their viewers about *gm.*
Best looking midsize in my opinion.
I've always been a big GMC fan, as for trucks or before they were "SUV's" lol Suburbans, Blazer & 1st Tahoe 2 dr Sport! ~ I agree on the Canyon, I'm just not a big p/u fan. 2 dr truck fan Sure! lol! Though we just ordered a custom Grenadier red frame, white exterior, safari top, snorkel intake, beadlock, leather yada yada. All the goodies. Personally I love it bc reminds me of my old LR Defender 90. I WISH it came as 2dr, but that not the world We live in atm. WE live in a world of FAMILY Mini VAN esque MASSIVE 4WDs LOL! Oy ~ As IF Nothing States SUPER DUPER "MANLY" then a Baby seat in the Back of a MANDATORY 4 door FUGLY Minivan 4wd Lifted SUV with expensive stickers all over LOL! And ofc super Pristine, no mud no dirt at Whole Paycheck ... Sure
Fwiw nothing will ever come close to the ram limited interior. Until you've owned one you can't understand just how refined that interior is. I mean the ram had 22 interior accent lights and the interior and dash lights have seperate control knobs. My denali has 4 interior accent lights with zero control. My ram dash and door panels were leather...my denali yukon they are plastic. Until GM or Ford hires someone from a luxury car brand to redesign their interiors, they will always be just average plastic truck interiors with a few nice surfaces.
If you are paying that much for a truck,you might as well get the AEV bumpers and plates. Both very good looking vehicles!
Have a nice day!
And you too, kind sir!
I wouldn't get either. I have a 2015 GMC Sierra crew cab Z71 SLE. Currently at 193,700 miles. I know I need a transmission soon.! But this same Z71 pkg, crew cab with a full 6.5' bed 4x4, it's $67000. $5200 for a 3 year warranty on a rebuilt transmission is a no brainer. For me.! Helluva cheaper that a $700+ monthly payment than a new truck.! I'm shooting for 300,000.! Miles.!
91k? My goodness. Buy some land. Don't buy a truck for that.
I'd like to see the off-road trips done with these bad boys to see if they're worth the $$$ spent on the features...
Most will never see the dirt
I’d take the half ton just for the engine options
Holy Toledo Batman!!! Love them both and the X definitely out paces my 21 AT4… but i nearly had a heart attack at $65k for mine! Looks like I’ll have to wait for a very used X to upgrade.
Bought a new truck in 2020. At4 Sierras we’re mid 50s new. Can’t believe they are selling a canyon within 10k of that.
My 2023 AT4X has climbed 93,000 feet of elevation in the past 30 days. If the truck fits on the trail (why I didn’t buy a raptor) it can handle it. Unless I can get a back massage while letting lane keep assist drive me down the highway, I’ll stick to paying twice as much for not quite twice the truck.
Why didn’t you put the GMC Canyon AT4X up against the big boy!!! That would’ve been a better comparison!!!
You aren’t being fair you are putting the AT4 Canyon instead of the AT4X Canyon against the Sierra AT4X if you are going to compare they have more of the same thing on both
These trucks are getting absurd. Thats house money. Even lower trim levels are stupid overpriced.
I’ll take 2 Canyon AT4s.
These trucks are getting ridiculously expensive
Try and find a canyon / Colorado / ranger on a dealer lot
Don't forget the dealer markups!
Keeping my 02 2500
Some of the most capable off road trucks use leaf springs. It isnt a crawler buggy.
I never understand the point of these videos. You're talking about vehicles (and prices) that very few people can afford (Sierra AT4X/AT4) and a vehicle that most people are to smart to buy (Canyon @ $50k).
The Roman stick. 😂😂😂
If you're a full size man, with a family, the midsize trucks do not fit my needs. Rear facing car seats would be tough in a mid size. If i was still single and no kids, i would definitely consider a mid size
Towing? In a Canyon vs Silverado. You forgot to mention.
I'm sort of new to purpose built off-road trucks, but realistically isn't the canyon actually more capable on off-road obstacles because of its shorter wheelbase and lighter weight, even with smaller tires?
You’d think
While the country is dying with inflation, google the prices of cars and trucks 10 years ago with inflation! Manufactures double or more the inflation rate! GMC, FORD, etc don’t make anything other than specialty vehicles that can be sold for these ridiculous prices!
A Sierra vs. a Canyon, regardless of the trim level they are totally different vehicles, I don't understand the comparison????
neither. a regular Silverado LT 4x4 at 50k is a better deal. Spend a couple grand on tires, lift, bumpers.
4 mavericks please
The tremor has all the off-road gear and cost 20k less maxed out.
GMC trucks: Where you're always ready for the next adventure, no matter the terrain.
You use to be able to get a Lamborghini or Ferrari for $100k, now u get a pickup truck......sad.
Rather have the storage in the tailgate than the stupid step
Canyon AT4X would be a closer comparison and the price difference wouldn’t be as great.
What's the payload and towing capacity for each?
The Sierra is limited to 8900 towing and the Canyon is at 7700, but a Canyon AT4X is less than that.
Still don’t understand how GMC/Chevrolet only has 33’ tires and not 35’s. Such a f’n mistake IMO.
Canyon all the way.
People buy them at those prices? 🤔
I didn’t know garbage was that expensive 🤷🏽♂️😜🤣
95% of the ultimate AEV AT4X blah blah blah will never travel far from the culdesac.
Agree the state of truck prices is insane.. where are the affordable good option trucks.. there back in the year 1988..sad😢
Um, how about like $60k.
Is this at whistler Canada nice
If its not under $35 k I dont actually watch the video.
You won't be watching much truck video's 😮😮😮unfortunately 😒
Where they lose me is when they try to justify the markups.
And both with a payload less than a Honda civic 😂
🙄
@@wint_62 it’s all the off-road trucks… am I wrong?
It’s ALL the off-road trucks, which just means that ALL the off-road trucks are wrong. One thousand pounds of payload and sometimes even less on a truck? Ridiculous.
@@is6566 the f150 tremor has decent payload but raptor trx zr2…. Should be suvs with that payload.
The step and pole are funny to me to get into the bed.
Lol, no way am I buying anything new ever again. 8 year old cars is my definition of 'new'.
Same goes for the Canyon at4 and at4x, at4x isnt worth the price of a full size truck your better off getting the at4 its the same truck!!
yeah. the pricing on these are so... bad.
4cyl is horrible. IF it's not a 6 or 8 don't even bother.
My question is who are these ignorant people buying these $50,000 midsize trucks?
So you're saying if andrea bought this one he would get cruise control?😂
I'd rather spend my money on other mid size truck than buying gmc canyon.😅
Only $1500 a month for that AT4X
You guys should do a comparison with the outgoing Chevrolet ZR2 Bison Edition with the 3.6 V6 and the new 2023 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2/Trail boss or GMC Canyon AT4/AT4X
Crazy
I will wait for someone to wreck one then I can grab a few parts; throw them on my pre-COVID priced elevation and save 50 grand
I bought a 2016 all-terrain x for 46k btw
People are spoiled in there trucks nowadays and nitpick too much
To much money for a truck that wont last long or not to reliable