2023-2024 Chevrolet Colorado 2.7 Turbo Engine: What You Need To Know

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  • Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
  • Technical deep-dive into the new 2023 Chevrolet Colorado (GMC Canyon) 2.7-liter turbocharged four-cylinder engine with overview of major components, specifications and some important do's and dont's.
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  • @johnjriggsarchery2457
    @johnjriggsarchery2457 Год назад +208

    I'm still waiting for the one cylinder supercharged engine that deactivates its single cylinder when it blows up after 3 miles.

    • @jimhogue4668
      @jimhogue4668 Год назад +2

      It's pretty sad because I used to have an se-410 Callaway Edition in the GMC Canyon and the Chevy Colorado.
      And their two-door long bed pickup truck in the Chevy Colorado was the number one Fleet Sales truck for construction. Yes those customers will be buying Nissan's now or Ford Rangers

    • @bensfixitpage341
      @bensfixitpage341 Год назад +14

      It won't blow up... it will de-rate power to 50% or 50 mph so the customer came limp back to the dealer and get violently assaulted while being assured when the parts come off of backorder you can apply for a line of credit to pay for repairs.

    • @matthewcordeiro2073
      @matthewcordeiro2073 Год назад +4

      Lol

    • @McFaddis
      @McFaddis Год назад

      Yeah it's crazy. All because of government regulations and they're trying to make it impossible

    • @jeremyfield4148
      @jeremyfield4148 Год назад

      So when we were told there was a supply shortage due to the Pandemic that was a lie. They were manufacturing a smaller engine in a more expensive vehicle to get manufacturing rebates from the Biden administration.

  • @bradyb2233
    @bradyb2233 2 месяца назад +13

    I am late on this, but i just got a Canyon and holy shit is the engine a little monster!

  • @OnlyGhostType
    @OnlyGhostType 11 месяцев назад +15

    I'm in love with this engine and the colorado. I want to get a trailboss next year

  • @douglas9607
    @douglas9607 Год назад +14

    I wonder if the polished crank was also for display here or is the factory item ground out? Amazing motor. Great technical review.

  • @OrcaBoat3
    @OrcaBoat3 Год назад +64

    I'm still enjoying my 3.7 naturally-aspirated five-cylinder engine from 2011. It has more horsepower than the base engine in this 2023 Colorado. No cylinder deactivation, no turbo, no auto-start/stop, and it has plenty of long-lasting durability.

    • @wojtekswiezak148
      @wojtekswiezak148 Год назад +2

      Sometimes it's good to keep those older trucks alive, if they work, why trade up. I recently purchased a 99 silverado (GMT 800) 2500 with a 6.0L V8, extended cab with an 8 foot bed. Has 320k km and mechanically sound. I want a new Tacoma or Canyon, but I paid $2000 for this truck, do I want to make payments for the next 6 years? Or is it worth it just to get a new truck?

    • @OrcaBoat3
      @OrcaBoat3 Год назад +2

      @Wojtek Swiezak I agree. My 2011 Chevy Colorado cost me $26,000 brand new. The dealer actually had taken $4,000 off the MSRP. The new Chevy Colorado cost about $45,000, then you have to consider excise tax and everything else. My truck is running great, the only problem is rust on the frame. But I'm having that taken care of by NH Oil Undercoating rust converter and Oil treatments.

    • @ericj810
      @ericj810 Год назад +6

      I drove and pulled with the 5 straight. This 2.7 has a ton more torque. And you feel every bit of it. In towing tourqe wins over hp. If top speed is what ya want then go for hp.

    • @BegForMyMercy
      @BegForMyMercy Год назад

      @@OrcaBoat3 the dollar literally lost 50% of it's buying power in that time however. So $26,000 in 2011 IS $45,000 today. Things didn't get more expensive, your dollar lost it's shit because the government prints money like madmen...

    • @justin________7477
      @justin________7477 Год назад +2

      Don't forget reliability

  • @fin1964
    @fin1964 Год назад +5

    Thanks Sam Great Review

  • @twobeagles1365
    @twobeagles1365 Год назад +4

    That is good to hear, Made and sourced from N. America !! Thankyou for the info...

  • @johnfranklin1858
    @johnfranklin1858 Год назад +4

    Wow great review very informative.

  • @yahtadi5152
    @yahtadi5152 Год назад +2

    Done subscribing. Thank you

  • @apkn1955
    @apkn1955 Год назад +19

    When you said fuel management, that is all I needed to hear.

  • @jroch41
    @jroch41 Год назад

    Great info!

  • @cliffknoebel8528
    @cliffknoebel8528 Год назад +4

    Glad you pointed out the differences, I'll either buy the zr2 or special order the ho motor now

  • @Ultratron100
    @Ultratron100 Год назад +7

    Very useful info not seen anywhere else. The L3B HO is clearly the best choice. Thanks very much.

    • @johnwhitneykokalis9990
      @johnwhitneykokalis9990 Год назад +1

      I agree, that's why I just decided to order a GMC Canyon and pay a little extra so I could get this engine as standard on the GMC. I hope I won't be disappointed. I will let ya know once my 2wd 2023 Elevation gets delivered.

    • @bigd2256
      @bigd2256 Год назад

      @@johnwhitneykokalis9990 all trims of the Canyon come with the HO?

    • @johnwhitneykokalis9990
      @johnwhitneykokalis9990 Год назад

      @@bigd2256 Absolutely. ALL GMC Canyons get 2 inch or more lift, and 310/430ft lbs of torque. And wider stance than Colorado also.

    • @bigd2256
      @bigd2256 Год назад

      @@johnwhitneykokalis9990 thank you for that. Currently have a 22 ZR2 but I’m thinking about switching out for the new Canyon. I want the AT4X but not available yet I believe

    • @harolddenton6031
      @harolddenton6031 Год назад

      @@johnwhitneykokalis9990 i sm leaning towards trading my daughter of 2023 tacoma trd off road truck in on a 2923 gmc elevation or the better gmc at4x it just at4 4x4 truck.
      My Tacoma gets horrible fuel economy driving in in northeast Tennessee on our hilly terrain highways in the tri cities by kingsport and johnson city areas at base of the cherokee national forest.

  • @timothywillis8883
    @timothywillis8883 4 месяца назад

    Thanks!

  • @rickca217
    @rickca217 24 дня назад

    has a 2023 canyon at4, when on a road trip,, from calif, to idaho, montana, n dataka and south, wyoming, came home 4800 miles avg 19.9 mpg,,, great truck

  • @roncoburn7771
    @roncoburn7771 Год назад +6

    to bad they don't offer the 5.3 in the Colorado i would buy one in a second

  • @Bigpete327
    @Bigpete327 Год назад +4

    Great job GM !

  • @reyperez3424
    @reyperez3424 Год назад +13

    Those engines are like those messages from Mission Impossible at the beginning of every movie or series.

  • @tbirdboy
    @tbirdboy Год назад +2

    Love that display engine. Lots of powdercoated bits and polished tubing.

    • @wysetech2000
      @wysetech2000 Год назад

      vincent narvaez The think is, you can't polish a turd.

  • @JeffSh00ts
    @JeffSh00ts Год назад +1

    So what is the difference between the low output and higher output models? Tuning or different components?

  • @TerraFirmaX
    @TerraFirmaX 10 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the info, I wonder why they even bother with the PLUS version

  • @JoseDelgado-ho1cf
    @JoseDelgado-ho1cf Год назад +3

    Thanks for this video. I just went to Chevy's Colorado Build page and looked at the base engine (L2R) paired with the (N8R) transmission vs the optional higher output (L3B) paired with the (MFC) transmission.
    My question is, is the (N8R) transmission code = 8L45 transmission, and is the (MFC) transmission code = 8L80 transmission? I would assume so.
    It seems that if you custom order a LT trim variant with the 310hp engine, the vehicle will be built with the (L3B). However, if you want to "flash" the base engine after production, the vehicle will be delivered with the (L2R).

    • @coop4274
      @coop4274 Год назад

      Actually you have it backwards. If you want to get the updated HO flash then you need to order the truck with the L3B. The flash isn’t available on the base engine.

    • @JoseDelgado-ho1cf
      @JoseDelgado-ho1cf Год назад

      @@coop4274 I understand from the factory it isn't. I misunderstood what was said at 2:55 , I thought he had said Chevy said it could be flashed at the dealership. Instead they said, it was possible.

    • @jimmyaber5920
      @jimmyaber5920 Год назад

      ​@Jose Delgado the base engine would be able to make the power with the flash but the lack of piston cooling and the less robust transmission are the roadblocks. Many of the

  • @carlmcdonald5864
    @carlmcdonald5864 3 месяца назад

    At work we have a 12 gmc sierra 2019 with this engine my truck has 357,497 km with no problems look like they put some thought into it

  • @justindtackett
    @justindtackett 28 дней назад

    Just go the 2024 WT with the Turbomax engine and towing package. Coming from a VW golf. Lol. The torque delivery is extremely different in the Colorado from what I’m used to. The power band is pretty evenly distributed on this engine/transmission set up. I don’t feel the pull very much of the turbo, but I’m at 75 on the highway before I realize it. So far so good on the Colorado! It’s the best looking Colorado in a decade, inside and out. A very capable truck.

  • @paullambert6485
    @paullambert6485 19 дней назад

    Is the L2R built as tough ? Forged crank, longer head bolts etc?

  • @Bking7string
    @Bking7string Год назад

    Pretty cool it has forged internals.

  • @MARedleg
    @MARedleg 20 дней назад

    I have a 2016 Colorado Z71 crew cab and so far it’s been a reliable daily driver. I bought it new and it’s paid off. It still works and looks great. I have the V6 and with only 89k miles on the odometer it’s still got plenty of life left in it. The v6 should have been left as an option.

  • @zz750211
    @zz750211 Год назад +3

    This dude needs more subscribers!

  • @ebshitbird2217
    @ebshitbird2217 Год назад +3

    How did it perform?

  • @blackericdenice
    @blackericdenice Год назад

    I remember when Ford came out with a v6 turbo in the F150. Everyone thought they were crazy. People drove them like they were mad and then bitched about bad mpg. I bought a new 2016 F165 and I have a video of me getting 30 mpg @ 55 mph.

  • @t.j.mackiewicz8944
    @t.j.mackiewicz8944 2 месяца назад

    where can I get all these parts in chrome as this motor has??

  • @jonarnold8982
    @jonarnold8982 15 дней назад

    What octane fuel would be best for this motor?

  • @richsarchet9762
    @richsarchet9762 Год назад +28

    Thanks for getting more specific than I have seen elsewhere, about exactly how the base engine is "de-contented". The lack of piston-squirters and the weak-sauce transmission explain the lower towing rating, and the missing foam explains why people have observed that the base engine sounds "coarser". We know the price difference, once we see fuel efficiency we'll have the whole picture.

    • @MrJEEPJT
      @MrJEEPJT Год назад +2

      🤨 Count on GM to fall short on giving the customers a better product….

    • @zman204
      @zman204 Год назад +1

      @@MrJEEPJT As a Chevy guy, I hate it, but have to agree, and I think that is the same for a lot of manufacturers today. It is all built to be more expensive to the consumer, break down and require more costly repairs than ever before

    • @Jeffbob442
      @Jeffbob442 9 месяцев назад +1

      Yes ! We have already seen what happens to the piston oil jets! Gm had a nightmare with the 3.6v6 @@zman204

  • @rodneyhirsch2340
    @rodneyhirsch2340 Год назад +10

    Don't like plastic crap but as a whole I like the heavy design and high torque. I'm too poor to buy anything but interesting.

  • @t.s.racing
    @t.s.racing Год назад +44

    A 4 cylinder turbo, with cylinder deactivation ?
    I have had a very successful, 40 years career with forced induction, sounds like to me the drinking water from Flint has found its way into the Powertrain Engineering Dept. at G.M.

    • @buellscool1
      @buellscool1 17 дней назад

      I'm in the market and this is the way it is going, not by market demand but by demand of the W.E.F. and the traitors in D.C. With that said the Toyota is also going to a 4 turbo and is $10,000 more? What are your thoughts on those of us needing reliability and utility in our trucks? I drive an 07 Frontier I bought new, 150,000 later still running good, but it won't be long. I'm a remodeling contractor and tow a trailer 3-4 times a week. Thanks

  • @andrewlake843
    @andrewlake843 6 месяцев назад

    It is a complex engine and while it works it is impressive but how long will it last and when it does need repairs will it be able to be fixed without breaking the bank or will it be more likely replaced instead of repaired because of the cost.

  • @wysetech2000
    @wysetech2000 Год назад +12

    The only reason for the 4 cyl turbo engines is cheapest way to meet the EPA fuel consumption targets. All at the expense of the consumer.

  • @cameronwingate7477
    @cameronwingate7477 Год назад +13

    I like the idea that they pump coolant through the turbo to help keep it at a much lower temperature taking some of the stress off the oil but I’m sure it’s still a good idea to let it idle for two minutes before shutting it off

    • @jacobvanausdeln1696
      @jacobvanausdeln1696 Год назад +7

      It most likely has an aux pump that runs after the engine is off briefly.

    • @zman204
      @zman204 Год назад +12

      So, I have a 2013 Cruze, I bought it in 2018, and now in 2023, I have 75000 miles on it. I just had the water pump replaced under a "special" warranty, that was extended just for that part to 100000 miles. The thermostat/housing was cracked, the water outlet was leaking, as well as the oil cooler. The last 3 items I did myself, and the cruze has oil as well as coolant lines that run to it. to change the oil cooler, you have to remove the exhaust manifold/turbo assembly, and my turbo was cracked in 2 places internally. That is what I fear with all these new small turbo engines, especially from chevrolet is that they are priced premium, yet built with sub par parts

    • @OddBallPerformance
      @OddBallPerformance 10 месяцев назад +6

      Water cooled turbos don't really suffer from the same heat soak spike that occurs with air/oil cooled only setups, so idle time really isn't needed. If it makes you feel better though, go ahead. Can't hurt.

    • @anthonymorrison2749
      @anthonymorrison2749 8 месяцев назад

      The water pump and the fans can run with the engine shut off.

    • @DeltaSierra426
      @DeltaSierra426 7 месяцев назад +1

      After towing, yes. After a regular drive, nah, maybe 30 seconds if paranoid.

  • @zbassr2106
    @zbassr2106 Год назад +2

    If it's easier to do your own general maintenance I'm all for it.

  • @joshlattanzi1889
    @joshlattanzi1889 Год назад

    So have the Z71 on preorder (should be here soon). I brought up the option to upgrade the power to the "H0" and my guy at the dealership can not find anything out on this or how it gets done.
    Can someone please shed light on this how to?
    Thanks!

  • @brettb2701
    @brettb2701 2 месяца назад

    I love my 23 turbo

  • @ttown918
    @ttown918 Год назад +13

    What one needs to know is the defective 8 speed transmission carries over. Forget it. Don't let the next gen talk fool you. Hell, don't take my word for it, consider this:
    2023 Chevy Colorado Chief Engineer, Nick Katcherian, told GM Authority Executive Editor, Alex Luft, when asked if the eight-speed was all-new from the ground up. “We learned a lot from the first-gen eight-speed on this truck, we’ve taken all those learnings and added more componentry, and really tried to move the eight-speed to a position where we could be proud of. We know what the customers have been complaining about on the current generation and we fixed everything that we could within reason,” Katcherian added.
    That means, GM couldn't fix ALL of the issues but they are happy to sell a mediocre product to you. GM - what a company.

    • @mfgxl
      @mfgxl Год назад +2

      "within reason”.... What a joke.

  • @jmpersic
    @jmpersic Год назад +3

    Thanks for the reporting on this truck's most worrisome aspect.

  • @jimmycline4778
    @jimmycline4778 7 месяцев назад

    The calibration through the parts department was 390 dollars but they charged me 180 dollars to install, someone on You Tube said I wasn’t suppose to pay for the labor that it was included in the price of my new Colorado Trail Boss, is this true, if so I’m taking my receipt and getting the labor money back!

  • @JR-ut1yx
    @JR-ut1yx Месяц назад

    Great engine, just trade it in before warranty ends and your golden 😊

  • @kellyfontes7757
    @kellyfontes7757 15 дней назад

    Can the the Cylinder Deactivation be deleted?

  • @honda116969
    @honda116969 Год назад +11

    Seems like a pretty nice setup, definitely a nice break down you did there thank you. I want to see what Toyota's setup is going to be on the Tacoma maybe not the most torque is the best idea cuz 20-27 lb of boost that's quite a bit, makes me concerned about heat soaking the turbo 🤷 Toyota uses air-water intercooler instead. I'll b looking forward to what's going on in midsize 🛻💨 segment

    • @jemtec1
      @jemtec1 Год назад +1

      The electric waterpump is designed for excellent heat exchange as its centered to cool around the turbo first.
      I doubt that will be a problem!
      This is a promising design.
      It uses some Diesel durability, so added bonus to buyers working the engine hard.

    • @MrJEEPJT
      @MrJEEPJT Год назад

      @@jemtec1 The “AFM” or cylinder deactivation on a “4” cylinder design🧐🧐 Nope deal breaker at least if it was always “4” cylinder operation I
      Would say ok. Rest assured Whatever Toyota brings to market be it a turbo version of their very stout “2.7” 4 banger will be far better…

    • @gnd111
      @gnd111 Год назад

      @@MrJEEPJT """Standard i-FORCE turbocharged 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine produces up to 278 horsepower, 317 lb.-ft. of torque.
      Available i-FORCE MAX turbocharged 2.4-liter four-cylinder hybrid powertrain produces 326 horsepower, 465 lb.-ft. of torque."""

    • @MrJEEPJT
      @MrJEEPJT Год назад

      @@gnd111 I’m not knowledgeable on the 2.4 4 cylinder engine … is it a new design ?? Does it have the industrial grade internal components of the 2.7 4 cylinder??? The HVAC company I work for services 3 dealerships most of the technicians in the service department have Tacomas or Tundras all of them give complimentary remarks on the 2.7

  • @2WR467
    @2WR467 Год назад +19

    Probably going to have the same issue with intake valves as for due to the direct injection not have fuel pass by the intake valve keeping it clean. Looks very complex and long term reliability is questionable.

    • @thekingofnoobs8362
      @thekingofnoobs8362 8 месяцев назад

      yeah I'm a little worried about GDI as well i honestly wish they keep the 3.0l diesel or put the 2.8l diesel in their way better gas mileage id say since its smaller then the Silverado it would be even better on fuel id say about 33 city and 38 highway id still feel like the 2.8l would need a little bit more power but one more benefit diesels tend to last longer then gas engines just another reason but they dropped them for some reason and I don't know why honestly cause the turbo 4 banger might get more power but it gets a terrible 19 city and 23 on the highway and it has AFM I wish gm would at least leave the 4 bangers out of but I guess not this is all what's stopping me from getting the canyon

  • @jeffwood1403
    @jeffwood1403 Год назад +2

    Needs port injection too, will keep intake valves clean. Ranger has same problem. New Tacoma engine will have both

  • @rossbone2323
    @rossbone2323 Год назад

    Love it Thx 🙏

  • @123bigred
    @123bigred Год назад +26

    this is all nice and cool, but I would rather have a 3.5 v6 naturally aspirated, that will last a lot longer than a turbo charged or supercharged engine. I will take longevity over a couple miles per gallon anyday

    • @panthermartin7784
      @panthermartin7784 Год назад +6

      98% of owners will never keep the truck long enough to worry about longevity, its the American way.

    • @mefobills279
      @mefobills279 Год назад

      GM ran that engine pretty hard in their durability testing with little to no wear. You can make anything robust with enough money. GM did drop their inline six project which confused me. One head and set of cams, no balance shafts, easy to turbo and electrify. I also like V6 and it makes sense for FWD due to short length. But a truck can have a long hood.

    • @fightfortheright1776
      @fightfortheright1776 Год назад +1

      Every diesel engine is turbocharged, and they last for a very long time. So the issue isn't the turbocharger.

  • @sebastianpiech8465
    @sebastianpiech8465 2 месяца назад

    Wish they still used the 2.8 duramax. I'd order one with a manual too

  • @acepilotson3331
    @acepilotson3331 Год назад

    Is there any problems with build up of carbon on the valves because of Direct Injection??

    • @mfgxl
      @mfgxl Год назад +1

      My extensive turbo experience is that catch cans do very little. Most of the "caking" comes from the air from the turbo charges carrying oil with it. No Port Injection......No Turbo for Me!!

  • @andysteward8617
    @andysteward8617 Год назад +15

    Sounds like it would be awesome, for as long as the factory warranty lasts

    • @michaelgood1791
      @michaelgood1791 Год назад +4

      They want it to fail close to 100k miles so you have to buy another truck. Turbo on/with an aluminum block and aluminum heads is a recipe for failure.

    • @elev8torguy130
      @elev8torguy130 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@michaelgood1791 some of the strongest engines ever made have aluminum blocks. Some of the strongest engines ever made have turbo chargers. What in the actual hell are you saying😂

  • @spinnetti
    @spinnetti Год назад

    Looks decent, but its just catch-up to common practice today. Bottom end doesn't look very beefy (no girdle or cross bolted mains etc)

  • @nahrens223
    @nahrens223 Год назад +14

    Now if they'd make an I6 version of it...

    • @brinleynicholson4588
      @brinleynicholson4588 Год назад +9

      Based off the math of 50% more cylinders it would be 4.05L and in the 455 HP 645 TQ neighborhood. They would never build it that powerful but it sure would be awesome if they did. 2JZ slayer

    • @nahrens223
      @nahrens223 Год назад +1

      @@brinleynicholson4588 considering they would have to be some revisions in the bore and stroke to get it somewhere in the 3.0-3.6 range and put the hp and torque somewhere in Stellantis 3.0 power range. I would think it could be a strout and reliable engine

    • @louisbabycos106
      @louisbabycos106 Год назад

      I remember briefly GM had the atlas I6 and although it was naturally aspirated it responded well to aftermarket boost .

  • @jamesdudley80
    @jamesdudley80 Год назад +2

    Run Forest Run!

  • @NWPencrawler
    @NWPencrawler 24 дня назад

    Great review of the engine package. What brand and weight engine oil does GM prescribe for these 2.7 turbos?

    • @TDTVGarage
      @TDTVGarage  21 день назад

      See the owners manual ;).

    • @NWPencrawler
      @NWPencrawler 21 день назад

      @@TDTVGarage RTFM! Right? 😆

  • @JamesLee-rd7dz
    @JamesLee-rd7dz Год назад

    Can I put a older v 6 in it out of the older ones

  • @ghostdawg4690
    @ghostdawg4690 Год назад +1

    Maybe this is the test bed for hybrid in the future.

  • @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
    @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy Год назад +7

    Wondering if carbon buildup on the back of the valves might become an issue on account of the direct port injection. Otherwise, looks like a strong, light engine. Interesting that they charge you $395 to "uncork" the rest of the torque, lol. Probably takes a 5 minute firmware update.

    • @jeffcarter8160
      @jeffcarter8160 Год назад +2

      I thought of that too.

    • @TwoPair72
      @TwoPair72 9 месяцев назад

      Here's is what my mechanic told me. Carbon actually absorbs gas and with lower your mpg on an old school set-up then hardens making it impossible to burn off if not treated. We all know how a DI system works. Dump in Seafoam every oil change and it will keep you running and help remove it. How, since no fuel hits the valve? It does what the bottle say. Lubricates the surrounding areas and with vapor from Top Tier gas will clean it up.

    • @luisgonzalez8929
      @luisgonzalez8929 9 месяцев назад

      The vapor of top tier gas will clean what; the surrounding areas? How about the carbon built up on the out side top of the admission (intake) valves? Heard it gets pretty bad carbon built up over there.

    • @TwoPair72
      @TwoPair72 9 месяцев назад

      @@luisgonzalez8929 got a point. I’ve seen videos where you pull off the intake hose and dump a can through the throttle body to get to the upper end.

    • @toddkovalcik332
      @toddkovalcik332 8 месяцев назад +1

      Check out the video from the guys at TFL when they interview the engineer about the design of the engine, lots of good info directly from the engineer. I believe he answered this question and if I recall correctly, that build up of carbon that has been seen on some other engines with DFI, has to do with how the crank case ventilation is designed.

  • @GeoTrashPanda
    @GeoTrashPanda Год назад +1

    Also #gm #gm needs to crate the h.o. motor with ecotec adaptors if it doesn't bolt right up to the older ecotec platforms like the LNF/LSJ!

  • @jamestamu83
    @jamestamu83 Год назад

    Is this TDTV or the GM Marketing Department video?

  • @scottymoondogjakubin4766
    @scottymoondogjakubin4766 Год назад

    The next best 4 banger engine swap !

  • @n0xxm3rcyxx
    @n0xxm3rcyxx 6 месяцев назад

    i keep seeing internet mechanics saying that this engine or tansmission will fail around 50-60k miles... idk if thats true or not. im not a mechanic. but i would like to get a new truck. Either a WT version with the upgraded mid tier engine, or the Trailboss or the Nissan frontier pro4-x... what do you guys think?

  • @tommyj1811
    @tommyj1811 Год назад

    Thanks for the info. I have heard conflicting MPG and reliably issues though. I really want to like this engine. I have a family member who works at a Chevy dealership with trucks and these engines and they can't get rid of them.

    • @gnd111
      @gnd111 Год назад

      That due to the old design 8spd trans. They have been updated for 2023

    • @barrymantei7795
      @barrymantei7795 11 месяцев назад

      The MPG is terrible 16 to 17 not good for a 4 cylinder

    • @PJ-SC
      @PJ-SC 9 месяцев назад

      @@barrymantei7795 yeah, I get 19-20 with my 4.8 v8 in a full size Silverado.

  • @Resistculturaldecline
    @Resistculturaldecline 10 месяцев назад

    If only all that would work as advertised, it would be fantastic. If only.

  • @mrjack8849
    @mrjack8849 Год назад

    3:35 plastic intake manifold…Is that common now?
    Appreciate the technicals of the truck. Most seem to just want to hit the high points of big screens and wheels.

    • @TDTVGarage
      @TDTVGarage  Год назад +4

      Almost all engines have had plastic intakes now for decades.

  • @edwardbowles8613
    @edwardbowles8613 Год назад +2

    Hope it works out BUT I will bet it does not pull as well as my 2017 Diesel and will not get nearly the mileage I get. GM never advertised the small Duramax. It is a great combination.

  • @yas2733
    @yas2733 Год назад +2

    So is the low hp version any good? Not every body needs 300 hp.

    • @adamfehr1994
      @adamfehr1994 Год назад

      Prob more durable in the long haul, less stress

  • @louisbabycos106
    @louisbabycos106 Год назад +14

    Be kind of cool to have these as crate motors in both FWD and RWD applications

    • @drift3rkid66
      @drift3rkid66 10 месяцев назад

      Nah, give me a naturally aspirated crate V8!!

  • @rockkstah2550
    @rockkstah2550 Час назад

    I’m late to the party, but has this channel done the 2024 Ranger 2.7V6 EC?

  • @Regularguy1798
    @Regularguy1798 Год назад

    What's the MTBF?

  • @AkioWasRight
    @AkioWasRight Год назад +30

    Hmm... GDI, turbocharging, cylinder deactivation and GM's 8L trans... This should be a safe bet outside of your powertrain warranty. Yep, nothing to worry about.

    • @shortvanillacake00
      @shortvanillacake00 Год назад

      Hahaha 😂

    • @mfgxl
      @mfgxl Год назад

      Best comment of all! Gold star for you.

    • @Logjammer69
      @Logjammer69 Год назад

      It’s a real pos no doubt.

    • @ajdrew252
      @ajdrew252 8 месяцев назад

      It's a shame they used to offer a 100,000 mile warranty. Now it's 60k

    • @jim9983
      @jim9983 26 дней назад

      these trucks probably drive very nice but i wouldn’t want to own one outside of the warranty.

  • @535banshee
    @535banshee Год назад

    Noticed the chain in the rear of the engine to drive the oil pump. Just like the 3.0 diesel and has a 100k mile service life.

    • @h8troodoh
      @h8troodoh Год назад +2

      The 3.0 liter diesel oil pump is BELT driven.. not chain..

  • @jackcycling4403
    @jackcycling4403 10 месяцев назад

    At what rpm does the turbo quick in? Would it be working as you're going down the highway at say 50 or 60 mph?

    • @TDTVGarage
      @TDTVGarage  10 месяцев назад +1

      It's not entirely about rpm. It's about engine load and throttle position.

    • @marinetechknj
      @marinetechknj 2 месяца назад +1

      1500 to 4000 rpm, the full torque is available. That's why I think the gas mileage is so horrible. Mine gets 12.2 MPG no matter if I'm towing, city, or highway.

  • @jw8578
    @jw8578 Год назад +20

    Hopefully this doesn't bend rods in eco 2 cylinder mode like the v8s. Would have preferred GM left cylinder deactivation out of this engine.

    • @REDSHlFT
      @REDSHlFT Год назад +6

      This exact engine has already been in production for several years with literally hundreds of thousands in larger/heavier half ton trucks…they aren’t bending rods.

    • @fbodyman01
      @fbodyman01 Год назад +1

      The 2.7 does not have "rods" or pushrods. It's an overhead cam engine.

  • @Christdeliverme
    @Christdeliverme Год назад

    What unit does thr ct4-v use? Hardware wise?

  • @docholliday6285
    @docholliday6285 6 месяцев назад +3

    Love this engine in my Colorado ZR2

    • @elev8torguy130
      @elev8torguy130 4 месяца назад

      What type of mpg are you getting?

  • @robertslegers257
    @robertslegers257 Год назад +6

    Did I hear, " Active Fuel Management" !

    • @wysetech2000
      @wysetech2000 Год назад +2

      Robert Slegers More like active trouble. Actually, I sort of like the way they have done it. Much better than relying on oil pressure and Chinese valve lifters. If there is any quality in the parts it might be reliable.

  • @csinalabama
    @csinalabama Год назад +23

    lots of things in common with the Toyota 2.5 liter Dynamic Force engine. Such as the electric water pump, variable oil pump. I like the Toyota engine better though because it does not have the 2 cylinder deactivation thing and also Toyota's port and direct injection fuel system to keep the valves clean.

    • @thisdayage7997
      @thisdayage7997 Год назад +7

      yea not having port injection paired with GDI and AfM is a deal breaker for me (the AFM thing baffles me& its been crap since 2008)! toyota knows if they’re going to build motors with longevity those 2 things are a must ! the 3.5 dynamic force & the 2.5 both got it right & im assuming the new 2.4 that will be in new 4runner & taco will share the same tech

    • @csinalabama
      @csinalabama Год назад +5

      @@thisdayage7997 AFM on a 4 cylinder is a real head scratcher. It can only be for EPA numbers.

    • @thisdayage7997
      @thisdayage7997 Год назад +4

      @@csinalabama ya a 2 cylinder turbo what could go wrong🤦‍♂️they designed the whole valve train around AFM & the camshafts are custom ground in house by GM for quality control….i ASSume it’s because its very finicky & unreliable otherwise….way too much going on in the valve train for engine to be reliable long term ! when they ran the 2.7 through a torcher test they said nothing about running it in AFM mode

    • @toddwerther188
      @toddwerther188 Год назад +1

      Aren't these things designed to run hotter... can understand the port injection concern in a non-turbo, just unsure if the same issue on a hotter running turbo where the carbon is more likely to be burned. Also, not liking AFM because... it might save gas when going downhill? Do you really think it's active in normal driving? No.
      This is all 'feelings' based, would need some numbers to understand the complaints. Kinda reminds me of what people said about the Ford 2.7L when it was new.

    • @csinalabama
      @csinalabama Год назад +3

      @@toddwerther188 Really two separate issues. GDI engines get carbon buildup on the valves unless port injected fuel cleans it off. It happens less with a high quality synthetic oil that is regularly changed. AFM engines activate when the engine is at speed and cruising. The AFM system causes lifter failure and oil consumption. There are lots of videos on GM's AFM problems. If you want to think the problem is solved, that is up to you. The issue of turbo engines getting hotter is a real concern. The oil breaks down faster in a turbo engine and should be changed no later than 5k miles. Turbo engines need better heat management than non-turbos, so do your homework on heat management before you buy a particular company's engines. For example, look at all the problems with head gaskets on small Ford turbo engines.

  • @benq.mechanical
    @benq.mechanical Год назад +9

    Pretty high-tech! Amazing they've done as well as they have. Long term though, LOTS of weak points.

    • @ericj810
      @ericj810 Год назад +5

      I've seen the 2.7 with 8 speed hit 114k miles, 80k or more of those miles pulling 7200lbs trailers full time in the mountains. This is in the Silverado trucks. It's made a believer outa me. The high output is like a diesel running on gas. Weird but works.... and seems tough...

    • @louisbabycos106
      @louisbabycos106 Год назад

      The electric oil pump comes to mind

    • @johnjriggsarchery2457
      @johnjriggsarchery2457 Год назад +3

      ​@@ericj810 You consider 118,000 miles a lot of miles for a truck?

    • @ericj810
      @ericj810 Год назад +5

      @@johnjriggsarchery2457 In a year..... for non commercial truck. Bet ya arse I do. Last time I laid that many down in a year was OTR.

  • @crlaw75
    @crlaw75 10 месяцев назад

    How do you shut off cylinder deactivation on that engine?

  • @HoonGoon
    @HoonGoon 2 месяца назад

    I like 👍

  • @anthonydent616
    @anthonydent616 4 месяца назад

    Does this engine have a timing belt?

  • @dansherwood9851
    @dansherwood9851 Год назад

    Drop that 6.2 in there gm and I’m all over it!

  • @guyconnell2250
    @guyconnell2250 Год назад +8

    I'm just curious what these little giants actually do for fuel economy in the real world while towing. If not significantly better than one of the V8s (in the full-size trucks) I really don't see any advantage. I realize we're talking about the smaller trucks here but I also know you can get the 2.7 in the full-size trucks.

    • @frankkeel8410
      @frankkeel8410 Год назад

      Poor fuel mileage!

    • @frotobaggins7169
      @frotobaggins7169 Год назад +1

      It's important to note that this is not a full size truck but also, most people rarely drive around with anything in their truck. They just buy the truck for the look. If you plan on actually using your truck for truck things, a bigger engine would be a better choice, the down side would be lower fuel economy all the time.

    • @BigKandRtv
      @BigKandRtv Год назад +1

      @@frotobaggins7169 Right. Trucks make their decks look bigger than they are.

    • @guyconnell2250
      @guyconnell2250 Год назад

      @@frotobaggins7169 As I stated, I am aware of that. And yeah, most people probably do that. My '19 Silverado has 38K miles on it though and roughly 1/3 of those are towing. Hence my question. I suspect that, like the Ford Ecoboost, this turboed engine will suck fuel at a high rate when towing.

    • @keithrankin6113
      @keithrankin6113 Год назад +2

      I have a 2.7 in the Silverado and I’ve never got below 19 mpg. That is a crew cab 4 wheel drive. I can tell you towing the same trailer I got the same fuel economy as my 2018 with the 5.3. That truck is a double cab 2 wheel drive.the 2.7 gets way better fuel economy especially in city or mixed driving. Highway it averages about the same as my V8 truck. It is also a heck of a lot more fuel efficient than my 2020 ranger.

  • @bonesworld7178
    @bonesworld7178 Год назад +1

    It's really great.. IF it lasts like a japanese engine. Period. I would really like to know the actual durability numbers, recalls, bulletins and service call items. Then we would know.

  • @doug3805
    @doug3805 Год назад +50

    GM reliability is very questionable in the last few years, especially cylinder deactivation.

    • @chrisb9478
      @chrisb9478 Год назад +11

      And transmissions!

    • @doug3805
      @doug3805 Год назад +4

      @@chrisb9478 That’s true. My daughter has a 2016 Surburban and the trans went out on it with around 150,000 miles. It rides and drives wonderful but it has had its issues but the cylinder deactivation has worked great so far and now it’s pushing 200,000.

    • @johnwhitneykokalis9990
      @johnwhitneykokalis9990 Год назад +8

      Same thing can be said about all the brands. GM just gets all the attention because of the 8 speed which is fixed by now, and I would know because I have a 2019 sierra with 172000 miles with no problems, At all on anything on that truck. But it's still a looser truck because Consumer Report says so. The new Colorado and Canyon look 10 times better inside and out compared to all the competition out there if you were to be honest.

    • @stevenstair1068
      @stevenstair1068 Год назад +6

      I bought the Range Solution Chip to plug in port under dash 2 keep it in 8cly mode, works great...

    • @Johnnyscarcarereviews
      @Johnnyscarcarereviews Год назад +1

      Doug I 100% with your statement. 8 speed has been problematic as well.

  • @docholliday6285
    @docholliday6285 Год назад +3

    Will order my ZR2 in April. Very pleased with this motor.

    • @tboe-cr8pz
      @tboe-cr8pz Год назад +3

      Don’t do it. This engine is a ticking time bomb. Tiny 4 cylinder with a turbo, direct injection AND gas cylinder deactivation…. Don’t buy it

    • @docholliday6285
      @docholliday6285 Год назад +3

      @@tboe-cr8pz wrong

    • @tboe-cr8pz
      @tboe-cr8pz Год назад

      Really? How so? It’s a GM product….

    • @Garlander
      @Garlander Год назад +3

      @@tboe-cr8pz 2.7 displacement isn't really considered "tiny"

    • @joegar47
      @joegar47 Год назад

      @@tboe-cr8pz Man you're speaking like a true fanboy of something else. You make it sound like all their products are garbage. If they were, people wouldn't buy them and their sales would be the worst.

  • @zbassr2106
    @zbassr2106 Год назад +7

    Is there any way to deactivate the cylinder deactivation?

    • @63Imp283
      @63Imp283 Год назад

      Probably if you trick the truck into thinking it's towing. Plug in a light tester in the trailer pin outlet

    • @zbassr2106
      @zbassr2106 Год назад +1

      @@63Imp283 what if you select tow haul mode? I'm gonna test this tomorrow on my 2018 colly and see if it changes modes.

    • @63Imp283
      @63Imp283 Год назад

      @@zbassr2106 I would think so. Find a good truck forum they will be able to help you with all kinds of questions. Let me know if the tow/haul button works. Only thing is you will have to do it every time you get in the truck

    • @zbassr2106
      @zbassr2106 Год назад +1

      @@63Imp283Drove to work this morning, even with tow haul mode on it will switch to 4cyl. Mode.

    • @wysetech2000
      @wysetech2000 Год назад +5

      ZbassR2 The best way is to deactivate your wallet at the showroom door.

  • @inquisitivesoul8978
    @inquisitivesoul8978 Год назад +2

    Have there been any issues with the dynamic fuel management as they have had with the V8's? Great video.

    • @wymple09
      @wymple09 Год назад +1

      Those problems are long ago & far away.

    • @ne2i
      @ne2i Год назад

      It's a completely different style of afm. It's a multi profile camshaft like Hondas system

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 4 месяца назад +1

      Ford and Dodge werent any better

    • @shadowopsairman1583
      @shadowopsairman1583 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ne2ijust vvt, phasers go out

  • @tedkenne
    @tedkenne 10 месяцев назад

    I like my 2019 With 6 Cyl VVT Engine....I'm sure it will last longer than any 4 cylinder turbo or not.

  • @jeli1347
    @jeli1347 Год назад +2

    Why wouldn't gm add port injection to? Cylinder deactivation and a chain drive in the rear of the engine just looks like trouble and a headache for any technician. I'm good I can see it from here.

  • @silverwolf1967
    @silverwolf1967 Год назад +5

    I have a 2018 LT Colorado and has the 3.6 L engine. During the summer it gets close to 28 mpg. Now I am very disappointed that this engine is being done away with in the Colorado. The 2.7 turbo engine gets worst fuel mileage than the V6 3.6 L engine. I think that can be a mistake because many like me really like this engine. I do hope that in 2024 GM decides to also use the 3.6 L engine again. The mileage on the 2.7 tubo is less than the 3.6 engine and fuel costs are high.

    • @Shadow-lq7rx
      @Shadow-lq7rx 7 месяцев назад

      are they higher when cruising on the highway or overall?

  • @jeffreyhall838
    @jeffreyhall838 Год назад +15

    Shutting down cylinders on a 4 banger? turbo motor's aint for me as long as i can avoid them

  • @Roberto-gp3yx
    @Roberto-gp3yx 3 месяца назад

    The 2021 Sierra has this engine however I don’t think they detuned the engine for certain trims
    I have the 2021 model and at first it was great but at 92k miles a rod broke and was causing a misfire
    Fortunately for me I have the extended warranty and it covered all the expenses but the service from the local dealership that I purchased the truck at was horrible they had me without a vehicle for nearly 5mths without even offering a loaner vehicle due to them facing parts issues and the replacement engine having some damaged parts due to transportation, even tho it was inside a crate.
    This engine is great and so is the transmission but the first issues came from :
    Oil control pump (inside the oil pan)
    Transmission oil control pump(inside the transmission)
    Purge valve
    Radiator failed too soon
    These small issues were quick to be fixed but the radiator failing with a small leak and even the replacement failed with the same issue
    Idk but 3 yrs into this truck idk how other people are doing with this engine bc if they have a fleet and drive the trucks as much as I do I don’t understand why my truck was riddled with problems
    I had a 2015 Malibu LT and if it wasn’t for an accident which totaled my car I would still have most likely the highest mileage 2015 Malibu with 270k miles and that car never gave me problems like this new engine in these trucks have given me

  • @HeavyChevyMega
    @HeavyChevyMega 4 месяца назад +1

    What octane gas does GM recommend on these 2.7L high output 310hp engines

    • @FuckPalestineFuckHamas
      @FuckPalestineFuckHamas 3 месяца назад

      If you look up the manual online, it says regular 87 is fine. Despite what all the keyboard warriors on here say.

    • @ews360
      @ews360 2 месяца назад

      Owners manual in my '23 Silverado 2.7 turbo sez 87.

  • @emoney9295
    @emoney9295 6 месяцев назад

    Waiting for the hybrid 1.7 liter engine 2 cylinder turbo charge

  • @baracktrump1410
    @baracktrump1410 3 месяца назад

    I purchased a new Silverado Trail Boss LT w/ the 5.3 in 2021, at the time these 2.7 L4 were not quite 2 years old so i wasn't even going to consider it for 2 reasons, first it was still a new engine, second it was a 4 cyl in a full size truck. Fast forward to 2024 those 2.7 L4s have been bullet proof as with the 5.3s. But I think the biggest issue with the 2.7s will be resale value.

    • @ews360
      @ews360 Месяц назад

      My thoughts exactly but bought a new (40 miles on it) '23 Silverado Custom Crew 4x4 w/ 2.7 turbo 6 months ago. Sticker was $50,500, marked down to $39,995, then reduced further w/ $1,000 Costco rebate & $2,200 GM card earnings to $36,800 (+ tax). Traded in '16 Silverado Z71 Double w/ 70k miles & received $25k trade in. I feel I did well enough on the "front end" of the deal.... not really concerned of depreciation on the "back end" 5 yrs from now. I'm very satisfied w/ grunty little low rpm torque monster - 20 mpg avg since new. Have been a 40 yr GM V8 exclusive buyer. No regrets.