Platinum, Palladium, AND RHODIUM from Catalytic Converters!

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2021
  • This is the entire process from start to finish recovering platinum, palladium, and rhodium from nine catalytic converters at home. This is an extremely dangerous process. Hope you enjoy.

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  • @HesTNTonPMS
    @HesTNTonPMS Год назад +5

    Got to love anyone who works near high heat and molten ore in flip flops and shorts

  • @jakospence
    @jakospence 6 месяцев назад +8

    Sure are a lot of chemists, refiners & safety consultants in the comment section that haven’t made a single video about chemistry, refining or safety in their profile!
    Way to get it done and put out a great video. Thanks for sharing what you’ve learned.

    • @-Chooka
      @-Chooka 3 месяца назад +1

      yeah it's only acid, PGM's and oxy torch, I don't know why they are worried?

  • @davidbaldwin3140
    @davidbaldwin3140 2 года назад +67

    Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I found myself compelled to watch to the very end, just to see what you ended up with (and if you managed not to hurt yourself!). I work for a company that provides software for the big precious metal refiners and recyclers--folks who take in tons and tons of catalytic converters, and folks who refine what those other folks produce. I have toured the plant of at least one major refiner, which was an eye-opening experience. I have had many of the processes explained to me as I observed the giant vats and crucibles and tanks that they are conducted in. But I took enormous satisfaction from seeing the process done in the way you did it--step by step, at home, using materials generally available--sort of. To see a single small beaker of fluid filtered through an ordinary paper filter into a small glass flask on a workbench often has more explanatory value than reams of narrative about industrial-scale operations. Plus it is fun to watch things like dissolving zinc in hydrochloric acid, instead of staring at huge tanks where nothing seems to be happening. I found completely hilarious the nonchalant juxtaposition of industrial-grade respirator, bullet-proof face mask, and Playtex gloves with...cutoffs and flip-flops. Obviously certain areas of the body were more important to protect than others! Anyway, I found the whole thing fascinating and I admire your courage and determination to see it through to the break-even point (I wasn't paying strict attention, but it did not seem to me that there was a profit margin). Obviously you could reduce your up front costs by simply stealing converters out from under parked cars--just kidding. Onward and upward.

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 года назад +8

      Thanks a lot. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I will be doing platinum group metals again this summer. I will only do them about once a heat but I’m glad you enjoyed it. 👍

    • @starpowerrockparty7920
      @starpowerrockparty7920 Год назад +1

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    • @lancesudberry209
      @lancesudberry209 Год назад +3

      Can't believe I read all of this plus stayed to end but I kid I did it to 😂

    • @lancesudberry209
      @lancesudberry209 Год назад +5

      I can after trying to get to core myself while pouring sweat and nonstop subliminal tunes in my ear holes " how many licks toget to the center of a lollipop?" 1........2.......💥

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад +4

      Can't believe I watched the whole thing and read this too. Since this is bad for your health, do scientists in a typical job would also have health problems over time?

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633 Год назад +19

    There is zero need to actially crush the catylist elements. Simply bake them out to remove carbon or oil residue then put in your bucket with chlorine so the acid flows through. A plastic paint mixing tool is great. Brick one or pre-cat has rhodium and platinum, brick 2 has either platinum or palladium or a mix. To process the Pt/Pd cats use acid plus chlorine. For Rh use peroxide plus HCl first, then switch to HCl plus chlorine. Recover using electrolysis, PMs plate on the cathode, and oxygen/chlorine on the anode. When appreciable hydrogen forms on the cathode and solution loses most of its color you are done.🤓

    • @jankobachev4289
      @jankobachev4289 Год назад

      Hi Christopher,
      You seem like someone who understands these things. That's why I would like to know if the following is correct? (Which chatGPT at least recommends to me).
      I have half a kilo of thermocouple wire that consists of pure platinum and rhodium. I would like to separate these with aqua regia method.
      So ChatGPT advise me the following.
      Mix equal parts of sulfuric acid and hydrochloric acid in a suitable container. Add the thermocouple wire to the aqua regia.
      Let the thermocouple wire sit in the aqua regia for 1 to 2 hours.
      Remove the thermocouple wire from the solution and rinse it with water.
      Let the thermocouple wire dry.
      The remaining material, which now contains platinum, can be further processed.
      And the thermocouple wire that was taken out is pure rhodium.
      Is this a correct way?
      Thx

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 Год назад +3

      @@jankobachev4289 the platinum rhodium alloy is usually 90%Pt and 10%Rh. I would alloy your metal with a base metal such as aluminum if it is thicker wire. If it is hair fine skip this step. Disolve the base metal with regular HCl as you would do for preparinh Reiney nickel catalyst. Rinse the pm powder left behind with dilute HCl then disolve what is left or superfine wire using HCl and nitric acid. Most of the rhodium will not disolve, filter the Rh and RhCl2 out. To the remaining solution add dropwise a bit of 10% H2O2, this will precipitate any RhCl2 that may be in solution as a deep red precipitate that looks a lot like vermillion. Stop when there is no reaction or you get a greenish black precitate. Now add a little more HNO3 to it. Any platinum will redissolve, the rhodium will remain as a precipitate. Heat the pooled rhodium with a bit of ammonia or urea to convert to the metal. Filter and keep or disolve this in a minimal amount of concentrated sulfuric acid and plate out on a graphite rod. As for the Pt it can be reduced to metal using urea and sodium metabisulfite in solution with a little heat or you can harvest electronically by plating out similar to RH. 🤓

    • @justintaylor7837
      @justintaylor7837 Год назад +2

      @@christopherleubner6633 please tell me you have a RUclips channel. If not, wen?

    • @amalgamie
      @amalgamie 10 месяцев назад

      I think he probably destroyed the roadium your don't want nitric acid anywhere near your rhodium palladium or Platinum group

  • @TheFluidArt
    @TheFluidArt Год назад +1

    So intrigued I had to watch until the end. Pretty amazing stuff and the entire process was very cool to see. Thanks for sharing your fun project. Glad you came out ahead too!

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy Год назад +10

    A very interesting video. I stopped refining PGMs years ago due to safety and them just being a complete PITA to work with. A small piece of advice that was taught to me: When you're adding the zinc be sure to put a cover over the beaker, such as a watch glass, as the bubbling can and does cause some metals to spit out of the top. It can be more than you'd think and when dealing with platinum salts it's best to not have to clean any up. Nowadays I just go for the gold and silver. Everything else just keeps collecting in my stockpot as black sludge and when I get enough I sell it to refiners. I consider it to be waste so even if I don't get a great price for it I figure it's still better than nothing and this way I don't need to worry about putting any effort or risk into refining it.

  • @4b5urd.
    @4b5urd. Год назад +27

    As a professional analytical chemist and former meth cook, this was a nail biter. I admire your dedication to the project and.... strangely... to safety. Totally surprised when I seen the home made fume hood. I believe you have a future in engineering or chemistry... if u survive. Hopefully you avoid the prison time I had to endure. Best of luck. And I advise you read the organic chem lab survival guide if you have not. It has some good techniques and tips that probably would had proved beneficial in your experiment, You filtering from the large container to the 5 gallon buckets will forever haunt me. Chemical spills and splash are no joke. Could mean serious injury, blindness or death.
    Ps: hope you take this as constructive criticism and doesnt discourage you at all.

    • @AuzFrog
      @AuzFrog Год назад +6

      Yeah that bucket transfer got me too.. and then i noticed he was fully geared up ! Still wondering about the exposed knees though!🤔

    • @BigMyz
      @BigMyz Год назад +4

      Same here. Also as former Meth chef (15+yrs ago) and pt home hobbiest.
      That pour made me pucker. Specially with the holes in the pants. The entire time I was thinking about the possibile other ways this process could be easier/safer/faster. But not to knock this guy. Helleva job and dedication sir. I watched the entire video. I was also admiring the homemade fume hood. Nice!
      @tjGreene1900 curious how you got into professional analytical chemistry? I'd love to get into the chemistry field. Currently working for global F300 company. Unfortunately nothing to do with chemistry.
      Cheers again to new owner of PGM. You definitely intriged me.

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад +3

      Thank you

    • @Eduardo_Espinoza
      @Eduardo_Espinoza Год назад +1

      Lol i get you have to use the old clothes for dirty work, but this is not what i had in mind! Lol they are even acid dipped:)

    • @jankobachev4289
      @jankobachev4289 Год назад +2

      Hi TJ,
      You seem like someone who understands these things. That's why I would like to know if the following is correct? (Which chatGPT at least recommends to me).
      I have half a kilo of thermocouple wire that consists of pure platinum and rhodium. I would like to separate these with aqua regia method.
      So ChatGPT advise me the following.
      Mix equal parts of sulfuric acid and hydrochloric acid in a suitable container. Add the thermocouple wire to the aqua regia.
      Let the thermocouple wire sit in the aqua regia for 1 to 2 hours.
      Remove the thermocouple wire from the solution and rinse it with water.
      Let the thermocouple wire dry.
      The remaining material, which now contains platinum, can be further processed.
      And the thermocouple wire that was taken out is pure rhodium.
      Is this a correct way?
      Thx

  • @michaelblosser5277
    @michaelblosser5277 Год назад +6

    Longest video I have watched on RUclips. I am proud of you! Keep producing the content! Thank you

  • @Peace-for-the-world
    @Peace-for-the-world 2 года назад +6

    Great video,Thanks for your time and the explanations. Best regards!

  • @rubsonsantos4022
    @rubsonsantos4022 Год назад +2

    Great job man ! The good part I like to watch America’s videos is “ you didn’t get reach in just one work” congratulations, I couldn’t stop watching !

  • @metalicmario
    @metalicmario Год назад +35

    Good job overall. You suffered the most losses in the melt. The proper procedure for the Pd and Pt salts is to slowly roast them which will convert the salts to elemental metal. Putting the high heat right on the salts vaporizes the salts and there can be extremely big losses. The same thing happens with silver chloride although that's converted to elemental silver differently.

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад +1

      Cool thanks

    • @gazorpazorpfield4414
      @gazorpazorpfield4414 Год назад

      would the salts not turn molten only to harden back into the original Pt or Pd salt?

    • @metalicmario
      @metalicmario Год назад +5

      @@gazorpazorpfield4414 No. The salts need to be roasted and brought up to temperature slowly. Once vaporization occurs the material is lost.

    • @jeffflanagan2814
      @jeffflanagan2814 Год назад +5

      I was thinking it should've been heated a little slower.

    • @shawnsmith9512
      @shawnsmith9512 Год назад +2

      The fact of no incineration of organic compounds before the leach didn’t help much either.

  • @lisachiodini6001
    @lisachiodini6001 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the video. I love to learn and you did an excellent job with the safety and description. Next can you show how to salvage from computers.

  • @rhondas3960
    @rhondas3960 Год назад

    Thanks for the video and all the time you spent producing it. I thought I was just going to open the CAT and take out the little ball of metal. 😂 🤣 😆 😹 . Had no idea I would have had to do all this work. Thanks again...I'll just sell it as is.

  • @carman1209
    @carman1209 Год назад +1

    Thanks for your time showing us the process and time it takes to get this metal out the cats. So much time invested that it’s not worth messing with this things. Now we know why some cats are worth a fortune.

  • @ilovehydrogen8307
    @ilovehydrogen8307 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for sharing this with us.

  • @andrewvogel5344
    @andrewvogel5344 2 года назад +9

    Knowing how dangerous it is and my dude is still wearing shorts #RECKLESS i respect it.

    • @chrisbudesa9355
      @chrisbudesa9355 Год назад

      Refining metals is a hazardous activity. Expensive too.

  • @tattobinsr79
    @tattobinsr79 Год назад +2

    Good vid, man...I can't believe you did all that hot work with flip flops on!😂
    Thanks for the info.

    • @judgegarry
      @judgegarry Год назад

      Reminds me of me, there's a fine line between genius and insanity... I use that line as a jump rope just to amuse myself watching people's reactions. I have a feeling he might have done this a time or two. 🤪
      (Jokingly submitted)

  • @oldscool5222
    @oldscool5222 Год назад +1

    You are an impressively methodical patient man.

  • @4zreviews553
    @4zreviews553 2 года назад +8

    You need too use the Mercury Vapor/Chlorine Gas Cartridge/Filter 60929S with a yellow color label if working with chlorine gas.

  • @freezerburn04
    @freezerburn04 Год назад +1

    I watched the whole program and it was very interesting and far outside my wheel house but cool as all get out. Thanks a ton

  • @canonsonico3752
    @canonsonico3752 Год назад +1

    At all times i was expecting the 'shake hands with danger' guitar riff😂
    Nice chem channel!

  • @bobfugazy4916
    @bobfugazy4916 Год назад +5

    Thanks, interesting video. I think something that we can all agree on is that doing this kind of extraction is dangerous and not worth the risk. I appreciate your investment in time.

  • @JOHNPHUFNAGEL
    @JOHNPHUFNAGEL Год назад +4

    Its been many years since i messed with cats, i was getting no less than 50 and some were worth over 200 a piece. Nice video

  • @userjr1
    @userjr1 Год назад +2

    excellent video!! congratulations, I am encouraged to remember the reactions, it is difficult to recognize the steps, just add a little of this to precipitate the other, or have it in the liquid solution, to obtain the good result. It is the alchemy that many seek to obtain performance. Today we ignore the magnitude that we do to the environment, I felt attacked when I visited a gold plant in my country when I saw a huge beach of waste. In the oil and gas industry similar in other respects. Then I'm trying to do alchemy for beers, if I don't have a yield at least I can drink it in my garage... regards

  • @evaneason6906
    @evaneason6906 Год назад +1

    I didn't find this video, it found me. I'm glad it did, very interesting. It taught me I'm not smart enough, patient enough, and careful enough to be mixing chemicals.

  • @gregkimura5906
    @gregkimura5906 Год назад +3

    As an engineer, I thought your video was great! You showed how to use chemicals and processes to pull metals out of the ceramic in a catalytic converter. Very cool!
    Many years ago, I was in the jewelry industry. We used a rhodium solution to plate white gold and sometimes platinum jewelry. At that time, the rhodium plating solution was expensive, but now it's crazy expensive! I was thinking that you could've sold the rhodium solution as an electroplating solution to the jewelry industry vs selling it as a piece of metal. Just a thought.
    One final observation. When adding a strong chemical to a strong solution, don't do it from the container (pour the amount you need into a flask or beaker first). You don't want to be holding a bottle full of a chemical that begins to react from the fumes coming from the solution below.

  • @MrBilld75
    @MrBilld75 Год назад +6

    Wow, very cool video. It was long, sure, but it kept my attention, because I wanted to see the whole process. This is typically how it goes I find, for extracting metals small scale. Like getting hold off computer parts. By the time you're done with chemicals etc. You pretty much break even. It looks like so much when it's raw, then less as powder, but still impressive looking. Then when you melt it, it's just a tiny bit, lol. But that tiny bit, still made you a little profit. Man, rodium is worth a lot. I was expecting it to not be worth as much, but it's worth the most and there's so little.

  • @tootyuk
    @tootyuk Год назад +2

    Enjoyed that mate, your my new favourite back garden mad scientist

  • @666neoselen
    @666neoselen Год назад +2

    that's an interesting process (I like science and chemical reactions).
    I think you should use distilled water to avoid dust when you put out the core of the filters, maybe soak it before removing it.
    after, you can crush the blocks into a fine powder, and process it like you did.

  • @chriscrystalhood6260
    @chriscrystalhood6260 Год назад +3

    Cool experiment, I was expecting way more precious metals from 9 converters. A lot of work for very little reward, but thanks for sharing.

  • @jasoncunninghambluejmc
    @jasoncunninghambluejmc Год назад +6

    Some of those cats look like they may be low grade or aftermarket. Always keep that in mind . I just bought 4 from 2000 v8 silverados that are VERY valuable. Learn to find the numbers and check the apps or a scrapper you trust.😊 thanks for the VID!!!!

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад

      Awesome tip. Thank you.

    • @SwhaggMehhOut
      @SwhaggMehhOut Год назад

      What app you use ?

    • @jasoncunninghambluejmc
      @jasoncunninghambluejmc Год назад +1

      @@SwhaggMehhOut eco and DG. But there is a company in Nevada that pays more

    • @jennifermiller082906
      @jennifermiller082906 Год назад

      Dg was raided by the feds and homeland for buying stolen materials..

    • @jennifermiller082906
      @jennifermiller082906 Год назад +1

      It sounds like you got 9109 or 8379. Both on the lower end. But yes. I saw at least 3 after market in there.

  • @Mjones8383
    @Mjones8383 Год назад +2

    A drain valve on the barrel would really reduce the work and probability of injuries

  • @djmjr77
    @djmjr77 2 года назад +2

    Gotta love the PPE with the shorts, sandals and air conditioned jeans!!😜

    • @djmjr77
      @djmjr77 2 года назад +1

      But seriously how easy would it be to get platinosis from this process? Like a drop on your skin or a bunch on your skin? Just breathing a little of the fumes or requires long term breathing of the fumes? Pretty cool vid!

  • @robinpage2730
    @robinpage2730 Год назад +6

    Dollar store peroxide works just as well as bleach for the oxidizer. It's also safer as it generates oxygen rather than chlorine

  • @philgallagher1
    @philgallagher1 Год назад +8

    New viewer here. Your video just showed up in my RUclips timeline so I thought I'd have a look....1 hour and 18 minutes later and I'm still here!!
    This was a fascinating view into what it takes to actually separate out some of the different chemicals in "everyday" objects, at home & without the benefit of a professional laboratory! Well done, Sir!⁹
    You may have only made a small "profit" on the exercise but I suspect that wasn't the point. You seem to have really enjoyed the process and despite having a full time job you managed to keep your experiment going for over a month! The look on your face, and the tone of your voice were priceless when you realised that you were actually going to produce Rhodium!
    I have subbed to your channel and will have a look at your other videos. You can count me as impressed!!

  • @jamisontaylor878
    @jamisontaylor878 2 года назад +2

    Nice job congratulations 🎊 👏

  • @SMOBY44
    @SMOBY44 Год назад +2

    My only suggestion would be to use a different tip on that oxy/acet torch. If you must use that cutting torch, stay off the cutting handle and dial that flame back to a softer, quieter flame.

  • @------country-boy-------
    @------country-boy------- Год назад +10

    Always wanted to know how this was done but will probably never do it myself. Thanks for this great video!!!

  • @Hammerback972
    @Hammerback972 Год назад +1

    Wow. Had no idea the process was so complicated. No wonder the value of these are so high, the breakdown, even at an industrial or commercial level is high. Learned a lot from this. Won’t be attempting any of it.

    • @cocoweepah
      @cocoweepah Год назад +1

      Mission ‘Impossible’ accomplished !

  • @coreygold1923
    @coreygold1923 2 года назад +10

    Absolutely love everything about this. Very well explained and executed. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with us.

  • @SilentDeath002
    @SilentDeath002 8 месяцев назад

    been interesting watching the steps you take, when i am making fire works and shells i have to be very exact on weight, once you have a large bowl/beeker with a solution do you weight the container to get the correct amount of tin or zinch by a formula to get the reaction you looking for.?

  • @ronmurphy9819
    @ronmurphy9819 Год назад +1

    Whey to much work for a break even project. A interesting idea though. Thank you. I can’t hardly wait for the next episode to pop up. Yeah I know how to get to your other episodes but sometimes I like to see what comes next. Thanks again Ron

  • @ddc3758
    @ddc3758 Год назад +1

    Really great video man, the best I found right now. I guess maybe this kind founfdry process made you lost a little bit of metal.
    I enjoyed watching it. Good job!!

  • @richardheaton6406
    @richardheaton6406 Год назад +1

    Wow this is amazing to me but I don’t think I would try it I am to nervous around all those chemicals thanks for all the work you put in to this to bring this content to us stay safe and thanks again

  • @mikemccord8218
    @mikemccord8218 Месяц назад

    Hey there you did an awesome job and I appreciate your efforts.

  • @elpina9657
    @elpina9657 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for your video, from Chile South América 🎉

  • @Originaldrocks361
    @Originaldrocks361 Год назад +1

    I love how you used a Batman dinner plate into the process. Great vid

  • @beverlybaehm8119
    @beverlybaehm8119 2 года назад +1

    would like to know if you have used aqua regia to dissolve the metals, first precipitating the gold then the pm's? If so what did you add to the mother solution after extracting the gold to obtain the pmg to then separate out the pmgs. BTW your video is exceptional keep up the work.

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 года назад +2

      I will be doing a video on that exact thing very shortly. I will use ammonium chloride first to precipitate out platinum then bubble out the palladium with chlorine gas. Will be my first time doing all 3. Hope it works👍

    • @sciroccoR
      @sciroccoR Год назад

      what gold??

  • @murmur3966
    @murmur3966 Год назад +3

    Hello Hello From Canada!!! Thank you for doing so much work and sharing this experiment us. I think you could make a load of money if you found vehicles "free to a good home" on marketplace and harvesting all the parts for later processing. Not only catalytic converters have the precious metals. Crushing up electronic components and circuit boards can net gold or copper as well. I think there would have been a better yield if you had pulverized the materials before adding the chemicals.

  • @julianalcorso5703
    @julianalcorso5703 2 года назад +2

    Well done you. A very interesting Vid.

  • @Fastaschit
    @Fastaschit Год назад +4

    On your acetylene/oxy torch you need to open the oxygen more until the flame is blue. Open the oxy gently. If it pops and the torch goes out, you went too far or suddenly. When it's a red flame like that it's not as hot and put off soot and takes much longer to do anything requiring heat. Good video

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад

      Awesome thanks

    • @dan-o9621
      @dan-o9621 5 месяцев назад

      We have ourselves another welder.. 😆 I was thinking the same thing. I remember filling paper cups with gas and hitting it wit torch for a load bang. Dumb things we do when we're younger. Have a good day
      Thanks for video

  • @MikeSmithEbby
    @MikeSmithEbby Год назад +3

    Why do I feel like I'm watching a fan remake of a Breaking Bad episode. Seriously, very interesting stuff.

  • @DanielIvan160
    @DanielIvan160 2 года назад +3

    We did physical chemical analysis in private laboratories of our raw material through atomic absorption with 10 samples of 1 kg each, and the result was an average of 30% CD, 35% RH, 7% RU, 7% AU, the rest was diluted in others. minerals of little interest such as lead and silver. A doubt arises since RH is related to the platinum family, however with this raw material the PT is not present. What is the absence of the PT?

    • @GotrekGurninsson
      @GotrekGurninsson 2 года назад +4

      Platinum is no longer used in catalytic converters. Palladium is more common now

  • @77-gmfu-s-am-e-xborders2
    @77-gmfu-s-am-e-xborders2 Год назад +1

    Great Job, thanks from Mexico 🎉

  • @LexiimaWriter
    @LexiimaWriter 2 года назад +1

    Very impressive.

  • @jimsiggy
    @jimsiggy Год назад +60

    I know this is a day late and a dollar short, and I hope you didn't get hurt, but your chemical hygiene is lacking; sandals, shorts, and a t-shirt are inappropriate for working with the materials you were playing with. And from what I can tell, your APR cartridges (magenta/black) are not the right ones for acid gases, they are rated for, Organic Vapors AND particulates. Yellow/magenta carts would have added acid vapors into the mix, which should have covered chlorine and HCl vapors.

    • @chinaman4042
      @chinaman4042 Год назад

      Dude he should know better,but he seems like the type to cut off a finger 🤘 and laugh 😂 it off ,or until the sparks start a small fire.Hes just not a safety type

    • @WarrenHitze
      @WarrenHitze Год назад +5

      Safety first and always. I would NOT recommend doing this. There was a lot of exposure to the environment and neighbors. Nothing was locked up, but sat outside at most times. Pouring the drum off of the table into the buckets was unstable as well. I couldn't go to the end, the lack of safety was driving me crazy. What did you do with the waste generated from the project, landfill/domestic trash?

    • @august6479
      @august6479 Год назад +5

      I was thinking the same thing. How did you dispose of the waste??

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад +8

      I take it to some folks at our landfill that takes hazardous chemicals

    • @Hayden734
      @Hayden734 Год назад +3

      I'm thankful for the video and your input

  • @seandrury161
    @seandrury161 Год назад +3

    Very cool video! One thing I'm left wondering is what group of metals are these? I rewatched the video 4 or 5 times and I didn't hear any mention of the specific group that these metals belong to. Thanks!

  • @milosanchez3036
    @milosanchez3036 Год назад

    Hola, enhorabuena, por el video, muy bien echo, lo que no entiendo si en un catalizador hay más o menos 6 gramos en total pmg, porque de 8 catalizadores, solo as obtenido 5 gramos,, debería ser más no?

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад +1

      Yes. This is my first time doing this and I’m sure I should have got more. I am going to keep trying to perfect this.

  • @PaganWizard
    @PaganWizard Год назад +1

    If you want to save some money on cutting wheels and drill bits, look up Bad Dog Tools. They sell them at a very premium price, but they are backed by an unconditional lifetime warranty. No matter how they get damaged, even if it's purely your fault, they will replace them. It's a small investment, but you will never buy another cutoff wheel or drill bit. If you want to do this again, first, wear protective clothing, those shorts and denim jeans weren't doing anything to protect you. Second, drill a hole towards the bottom of your barrel, and install a brass ball valve to make draining A LOT safer. You can also attach valves to the bottom of your 5 gallon buckets.

  • @markselten4985
    @markselten4985 Год назад +1

    I had a heap of silver platinum contacts... im happy to dissolve pgms in aquaria after getting the silver out. Then just cementing the pgms out as a group on copper. As far as I'm brave enough to go with this stuff. Calcite then melt a pgm bead is next step.

  • @Jskdjdmdmz
    @Jskdjdmdmz 2 года назад +5

    Total weight of yield is far lower than it should be actually. color of rhodium indicate mix metals. get it XRF and possibly will need to re dissolve & precipitate pure Rhodium. Over all Great work done , i really appreciate. Good luck

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 года назад +1

      Thanks. I was definitely expecting more. It was my first time and I’m trying to figure out where I went wrong.

  • @anisahemad6968
    @anisahemad6968 2 года назад +1

    Thank you very much sir

  • @lubehousenigeria9175
    @lubehousenigeria9175 2 года назад +1

    Great work

  • @johnnelson4537
    @johnnelson4537 2 года назад +11

    Crush all the ceramic to a fine powder before chemical processing

    • @miketyson8933
      @miketyson8933 Год назад

      Yea he missed so much metals its not even funny!!!

  • @aaronspaulding3679
    @aaronspaulding3679 Год назад +1

    Simply great video!!

  • @cliffordbirchell2029
    @cliffordbirchell2029 Год назад +1

    I'm a new sub bro and I like that plan b on the recovering

  • @mikeconnery4652
    @mikeconnery4652 3 месяца назад +1

    Great job and a very interesting video.

  • @payamkhalesi2587
    @payamkhalesi2587 Год назад +2

    Hello my friend, thank you for sharing your informative video, I just have one question that I hope you will answer and the question is, what should be the concentration of potassium hydroxide? thank you

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад +1

      Thank you! I appreciate you watching. I used a 45% potassium hydroxide solution. I basically poured it util the whole solution turned blue and I felt everything precipitated out. I’m by no means a professional chemist, this was an experiment based on a article I read. I hope that helps👍

  • @andymilic4093
    @andymilic4093 Год назад +1

    Rhodium has made a come back from the 15,000$, that it had dropped down to from a high topping $ 30,000, I think it now back up over 20,000$ USD,crazy to think that a kilo of rhodium is over $ 475,000 great video

  • @sanmarzano
    @sanmarzano Год назад +3

    Got tired of filtering and waiting...bought a centrifuge on Ebay for $30.00
    Now using 50ml tubes x 4 at a time. I can spin down 200ml at a time and get
    clean ppt in 10 minutes or less.

    • @gregkimura5906
      @gregkimura5906 Год назад

      Someone mentioned this way back on the thread.

  • @user-ft5vq2bt4l
    @user-ft5vq2bt4l 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm from Indonesia, processing precious metals from natural resources (stone, soil, sand, mud etc.)

  • @skyrider7877
    @skyrider7877 Год назад +1

    Crazy kewl vid. I thought alright I'll give it 4-5 minutes. 80 minutes later I'm leaving a comment. Very impressive. Thank you

  • @12thsonofisrael
    @12thsonofisrael Год назад +12

    You could use a hammer mill to turn the cat-converter screens into fine powder, maybe make the process more efficient and speed up the process? 🤔

    • @james35124
      @james35124 Год назад +1

      That's what I was thinking, use a ball grinder (like the old stone polishers) and just the ball bearings powder those screens

    • @ehrenkrause9861
      @ehrenkrause9861 Год назад

      Or you could create more slots that the acid has to work through leaving them in the honeycomb shape allows the metals to be extracted without obstruction 🤔

  • @judgegarry
    @judgegarry Год назад +1

    @ +/- 38min:
    "Fluffier"???Hmmm, fluffy metals? Is that a metallurgical science term? Lolz. 😉
    On a more serious (and polite) note, I like your fume cabinet desig, did I miss you mention how you made that, and from what? I like your idea and it looks like i can use it without much modification as an exhaust system for my guitar finishing booth. The only thing that might be added is a filtration system of some sort.
    Care to share some quick details with me? Thanks in advance for any help.

  • @geraldrector6170
    @geraldrector6170 Год назад +1

    Where does the after waste n solutions go after your finished with the process?

  • @Washman-jw3hl
    @Washman-jw3hl Год назад +1

    Oh man. That's an A+ for effort. I really enjoyed watching the process. But as far as value? I really wish it was there. Hold onto the metals until the value rises again. I know I didn't have to tell you that. I'm just rooting for the win for ya. 👍

  • @sluiceman2004
    @sluiceman2004 Год назад +1

    Also, a pH drop might work as well as using zinc.

  • @wickedfriggengood6992
    @wickedfriggengood6992 Год назад +1

    Don’t know if anyone said it yet but take the hose and fill it with water. Plug the end going to the filter and quickly put the other end down into the solution. Unplug the filter end and boom syphoning solution!

  • @CARLOSCESPEDESbiocihealth
    @CARLOSCESPEDESbiocihealth 2 года назад +2

    Good job.!!

  • @richpederson6691
    @richpederson6691 11 месяцев назад +1

    Cool experiment, i was hoping youd get more out of them.👍

  • @yolandaguzmanafterbuffalo48
    @yolandaguzmanafterbuffalo48 Год назад +1

    Do I have to wear the holes in the knees jeans for the reaction to work

  • @johnnewman3221
    @johnnewman3221 Год назад +2

    great video, is it possible to make a meteorite rock using iron and other metals, just like the real one.

  • @glennabbott2606
    @glennabbott2606 2 года назад +4

    don't use oxy acetylene to smelt Pt nor graphite crucibles. carbon from oxy acetylene can create a charge (Pt conducts electricity) use crystal quartz fused dish, crucible, etc when smelting Pt

  • @mikeconnery4652
    @mikeconnery4652 Год назад +1

    Fantastic video

  • @irvinnguyen3931
    @irvinnguyen3931 Год назад

    What about the rhodium? Do u try to extract that first before doing this bro?

  • @richardbaker4557
    @richardbaker4557 Год назад

    what did it cost you for all the other stuff like your torch and other cem's

  • @guywhoisaguy67676
    @guywhoisaguy67676 Год назад +2

    If you heated your Palladium button close to burn temp. it will get an oxide layer on it too, the Rhodium was heated that high so it turned oxide color of Palladium in it.

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад

      Thanks for the advice

    • @johnsheppard1476
      @johnsheppard1476 Год назад +1

      @@jandlcrafting1332 I personally hate melting palladium in particular because of the very nasty ability of it to absorb all the carbon and oxygen that ever touches it's molten surface which both are immediately expelled upon solidifying which turns the blob into a porous dirty mess and also you lose a bunch of metal due to splashing!
      By the way I can tell you somewhat better way to extract PGMs from cats with no losses if you want! And it's also much faster than here!

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад +1

      I’m all ears!

  • @sleepyvibez8586
    @sleepyvibez8586 2 года назад +14

    wow very interesting, my husband just found a rock that we were thinking was a meteorite, but we have to send it in to get tested and it has rhodium in it. so was skimming through RUclips on rhodium and came across your vid. super interesting thanks for recording the whole process

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  2 года назад +3

      Absolutely. Thank you

    • @martinfielding514
      @martinfielding514 Год назад +1

      @@jandlcrafting1332 do you have an email address so we can discuss this process more

    • @catch22frubert
      @catch22frubert Год назад +2

      @@martinfielding514 Read the book, Refining Precious Metal Wastes by C.M. Hoke. It will be a good introduction into the chemistry of the refining processes for different precious metals. Platinum group metals require different treatment than Gold or Silver, which are kinda simple in comparison, but its still a great book to read if this subject interests you.

    • @travisortwein6974
      @travisortwein6974 Год назад +3

      Well it ain’t no meteorite, it’s a frozen chunk of poopy

    • @martinfielding514
      @martinfielding514 Год назад +1

      @@catch22frubert thanks will look into it, would still very much like to discuss this with @J and L Crafting 😀

  • @tecerianjewelry
    @tecerianjewelry Год назад

    I have a question in regard to platinum refining. I went way overboard on the Ammonium Chloride as no reaction was occurring I assumed that I had not put enough powder in with the solution. After some research I determined that the solution was to large and reduced it by boiling which did precipitate the platinum out. Trouble is that I now have a large amount of Ammonia Chloride crystals in with the platinum. I've tried filtering it bu, the filter becomes clogged almost immediately with excess ammonium Chloride crystals. Any tips on how to separate the platinum from the ammonium Chloride crystals. I think I might have to burn off all the ammonium chloride crystals do you know of any easier or less labor intensive way?

    • @apveening
      @apveening Год назад +4

      Slowly dissolve the ammonium chloride crystals in distilled water, making sure the solution remains nearly saturated so the Pt won't dissolve.

    • @atturan6006
      @atturan6006 Год назад

      Evet içine biraz su ve hidroklorik karıştırın atiginda tuzlar kaybolur sadece pilatin kalır korkmayın pilatini yemez ..bende aynı sorunu yaşadım cinkodan sonraki saf su ile temizleme işlevi tekrarlaman yeterli gerek yani işlev tekrar etmene gerek yok, saygılar

  • @williampacatte6334
    @williampacatte6334 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video. Check out how to adjust your torch to a neutral flame, it will help. Bill

    • @jandlcrafting1332
      @jandlcrafting1332  Год назад

      Cool thanks

    • @judgegarry
      @judgegarry Год назад

      Not only is it helpful to understand what the different types of flame characteristics are and how to optimize them, different types of tips, preferably rosebud types for general purpose heating, are available for just about any type and scale of work done.
      Great video, very informative and interesting. I have been curious about the whole catalytic converter precious metals makeup for as many years as they've been in use. Thanks Much,
      ⚖️👨‍⚖️⚖️
      JudgeGarry

  • @YodaWhat
    @YodaWhat Год назад +1

    Low temperature is your friend when settling tiny particles. You could even try freezing a dilute solution.

  • @roberthamm9304
    @roberthamm9304 Год назад +1

    Very interesting. I was always wondering how you could extract the precious metals out of the catalytic converters. I’m sure there’s a faster process, but at what cost would it be worth it to invest the time and effort.

  • @johnslife3924
    @johnslife3924 Год назад +2

    dont forget- you had alot of initial expenses that you need to incorporate into the next so many jobs. Like the mapp and torch gas. you didnt use it all on this one time. also- the torch gases are refillable, so no need to buy tanks again- just the cost to get them refilled- which is alot less. so by you having a profit, right out of the gate, is a good thing because your profit margin from here on out will be higher. good job!

  • @MrDogone1234
    @MrDogone1234 2 дня назад

    Very cool video. I always wondered why the theft of catalytic converters are on the rise nowadays. Cool video the science behind it all. Be safe.

  • @sirclifforddrakemalcolmjac5870
    @sirclifforddrakemalcolmjac5870 Год назад +2

    If you made a drinking game, a drink for everytime he said solution or platinum group metals, not even both, just one or the other, i think youd probably have to go to the hospital after about 20 mins!!😁😁 Awesome video tho! Im just messin around!

  • @SpookySpencerFinnLoki
    @SpookySpencerFinnLoki Год назад

    I loved Rhodium. Especially on the Mary Tyler Moore show

  • @SkinnyVinnyLive
    @SkinnyVinnyLive Год назад +2

    I love the PPE and sandals 😂

  • @TheEinnorPrdgy
    @TheEinnorPrdgy Год назад +1

    Platinum group metals!!!!!!! New drinking game!
    I love the video, by the way. And yes, I'm childish. Great job though!! 👏

  • @albertcab
    @albertcab Год назад +2

    Muy entretenido el video.
    El Rodio si acaso deberias de refundirlo colocando borax y calcio a partes iguales. Asi te sacará esa capa de sulfuro que se le ha formado y tendrá mejor color.

  • @irvinnguyen3931
    @irvinnguyen3931 Год назад +1

    Thank u brother