Special Note: I found out recently that the Complex Dream was part of a 5 year agreement between Square Enix and Wright Flyer Studios, after which the collab "ends". Only SE has these stipulations with their Another Eden collabs, so the collabs with Namco, Atlus etc. have no time limit are will remain in the game indefinitely. Hopefully Wright Flyer and SE will be able to reach a new agreement and keep Complex Dream within Another Eden, as it would be a shame to see it go. This video was made and scheduled for release before Toriyama-sensei passed. Heartbreaking news to hear of his passing the day of this video's release, as today was supposed to be a celebration of his great work, at least on my channel. Rest in peace, king.
Excellent video, and great how you really include everything! (Chrono really makes this possible in-universe as well, given the whole parallel worlds shtick - they all potentially "exist"). And great that you give Crimson Echoes the love it deserves - it's absolutely excellent.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video. A lot of folks in the comments got really upset at me including anything other than CT, CC, and RD, but I felt all of these games were worthy of discussion here, and it's nice to see someone else appreciate that. Crimson Echoes is really great and any diehard Chrono fan is missing out by not playing it.
I typed out a whole huge comment but RUclips deleted it 😭😂 One day I wanna make a video kinda similar to this, but here's my ranking of all the Chrono-like game I've played Radical Dreamers Sea of Stars I Am Setsuna Final Fantasy Dimensions II Chrono Trigger Lost Sphear (yes, I loved this game, I'm as shocked as everyone else) Xenogears (so far) Chrono Cross (my guess?) Chained Echoes
I typed out a whole huge comment explaining all my picks, but RUclips deleted it 😭😂 One day I wanna make a video kinda similar to this, but here's my ranking of all the Chrono-like game I've played from worst to best Radical Dreamers Sea of Stars I Am Setsuna Final Fantasy Dimensions II Chrono Trigger Lost Sphear (yes, I loved this game, I'm as shocked as everyone else... You should check it out if you haven't!) Xenogears (so far) Chrono Cross (my guess?) Chained Echoes
You forgot to include the Final Fantasy XI Online Wings of the Goddess expansion and Final Fantasy XIII-2. Joking aside, I wish more games inspired by CT were in development, since Sea of Stars really missed the mark story-wise IMO.
Was wondering where you got the info that Xenogears was going to be reworked into a Chrono sequel. The only connection I've heard was Gears originally being an early concept for FFVII
There are a few different sources. Interviews with Takahashi and Mitsuda verify this. Wikipedia links an interview with Takahashi (in Japanese) and if you do a Google search you can find the Mitsuda one easily. I'm not linking them because RUclips tends to mark them as spam, even on my own videos, but just head to the Xenogears Wikipedia, go to "Development", and read the first paragraph.
@gregtroyan Unfortuntately, no part of it survived. To be clear, I was an amateur and a child just doing it for myself, so it probably wasn't good. Still wish I had it though. I had a lot of fun adapting Radical Dreamers. How restrictive RD's narrative was made it a challenge, though still veeerrrryy short.
Weird that everybody who said this list doesn't count and that there are only 3 Chrono games never responded to me asking about if Complex Dream counts? The game with Chrono Cross characters written by Masato Kato, with music by Mitsuda, with multiple endings, a new game plus feature, and 20 hours of gameplay. Can someone tell me if it's a real Chrono game?
I DO but only if its part of the Chrono Cross Remaster since that's really the ONLY way to play it in English else it doesn't even play like a normal RPG at all.
@@rpgranked I have about 150 characters from playing free. A lot can be obtained just through playing normally and doing quests. Some can only be obtained through gacha, but you can do that for free. If you log in every day they give you free currency for gacha pulls, and I have almost all the characters I want, plus tons of others. I think there's like 3 or 4 characters I want specifically that I don't have yet.
It isn't hard getting every character (or most of) the characters you want. Starky is locked behind a hard side quest, but that doesn't involve currency just beating a superboss.
I bet if Greg ranked all the Thin Lizzy studio albums he would get more views than this video. People like rankings. It's not a matter of what is being ranked. And Greg has never done a video ranking the Thin Lizzy albums. Too lazy.😌
I would be surprised if it got more views than this. My Beatles album ranking is under 1k views. The most popular video I have on Lizzy is under 2k views. That said, the second most popular Lizzy-related video I have is a Blue Murder song, so I'm sure that gives you some satisfaction.
Still say you having never done your own official video ranking of the Thin Lizzy albums is a bit troublesome. The channels that have done it kinda messed it up, but the videos were popular.
If you count Xenogears then Xenogears is #1 Hands down. Xenogears is the all-time Best JRPG with #2 Lunar Silver Star Story Complete (PSX), #3 Seiken Densetsu 3(SNES) #4 Tales of Abyss (PS2) and #5 Chrono Trigger (PSX). Honorable mention to Xenosaga Episode 1 the only game so engrossing I beat it in one sitting.
@@displayname3730 Breath of Fire is a great series but there are a ton of great games that you have to be picky and also consider all gaming generations. Its easier to have a Solid Top 5. Considerations for the back 5 are contentious in my own head. Breath of Fire 2 and 3, Dragon Quest 4, 8, and 11, Final Fantasy 4 and 6, Golden Sun, Suikoden II, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Shadow Hearts: Covenant, Persona 5 Royal and Persona 4 Golden, Shin Megami Tensei 3 Noturne and Shin Megami Tensei 4, Wild Arms 3, Ni no Kuni 1 and 2, Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, Tales of Xillia and Graces F.
Lunar is so weird, like 15 years ago when I had my PSP I kept hearing about how good it was but for some reason the cover art and character design never pulled me in, so I always picked something else to play.
@@Ocean5ix Lunar Silver Star Story Complete is one of those games that should be played on a PlayStation hooked up to a CRT TV. Sure you can get it on PSP or GBA but it's on a smaller screen and those two versions were remakes. You can emulate it, but because most screens are LCD with 16:9, legacy games look noticeably worse, more pixelated than they would on a 4:3 CRT. Widescreen hacks stretch the image or you deal with black bars all around on 16:9. It definitely kills the vibe. Think of it like watching a movie at home, versus watching it on your phone, versus watching one at the theater with friends. All versions are watchable, but the experience is different and so is the impression it leaves.
@@Beerpowered In the video I acknowledge Xenogears is probably my favorite game on this list, so I won't argue with you. I will say that I played Lunar on the PSP, emulated to full screen on my laptop, and I LOVED that version when played that way.
For me NO since it never got a PS4 PS5 Switch etc port and doesn't even play like Trigger/Cross at all anyways and it doesn't have Chrono in its title.
@@veghesther3204 It is a turn based rpg with Serge, Harle, Kid, and Starky as playable characters. It has the Chrono Cross element system. It has new game plus. It was made by Kato, Mitsuda, and in collaboration with Square. How does it not play like the other games?
But there aren't 11 GAMES in the Chrono series only Chrono Trigger/Cross count the REST of MODS/hacks of games so they don't count and the FF dimension games are IOS only.
@@veghesther3204Complex Dream isn't a fan-made product. It was made by Masato Kato, in collaboration with Square Enix, with music by Mitsuda and Chrono Cross characters. Why doesn't that count?
@@gregtroyan it's your show, do as you please. But for me, and I imagine many others here, video games are our break from real life. You can hate libertarianism all you like but there's a difference between pointing it out and explaining your hatred for it while mocking it.
@@DemitriosXmeh, ignore this guy's comment. I'm a libertarian myself and I didn't take offense on the criticism. The reviews of the games themselves were great, keep up the good work!
@@DemitriosXwhile plenty of games are nothing more than “a break from from reality” a lot of games try to be something more. A lot of art is political and sometimes you may not agree with what is shown but you can’t always expect everything to line up with how you see the world and require you to really engage with it. Maybe you’ll change your mind maybe you won’t but at least you can say you tried.
Special Note: I found out recently that the Complex Dream was part of a 5 year agreement between Square Enix and Wright Flyer Studios, after which the collab "ends". Only SE has these stipulations with their Another Eden collabs, so the collabs with Namco, Atlus etc. have no time limit are will remain in the game indefinitely. Hopefully Wright Flyer and SE will be able to reach a new agreement and keep Complex Dream within Another Eden, as it would be a shame to see it go.
This video was made and scheduled for release before Toriyama-sensei passed. Heartbreaking news to hear of his passing the day of this video's release, as today was supposed to be a celebration of his great work, at least on my channel. Rest in peace, king.
Rip 😔🙏🏾
Excellent video, and great how you really include everything! (Chrono really makes this possible in-universe as well, given the whole parallel worlds shtick - they all potentially "exist"). And great that you give Crimson Echoes the love it deserves - it's absolutely excellent.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video. A lot of folks in the comments got really upset at me including anything other than CT, CC, and RD, but I felt all of these games were worthy of discussion here, and it's nice to see someone else appreciate that. Crimson Echoes is really great and any diehard Chrono fan is missing out by not playing it.
What a fantastic video idea!!! Excited to comment after I finish!
I look forward to your commentary!
I typed out a whole huge comment but RUclips deleted it 😭😂
One day I wanna make a video kinda similar to this, but here's my ranking of all the Chrono-like game I've played
Radical Dreamers
Sea of Stars
I Am Setsuna
Final Fantasy Dimensions II
Chrono Trigger
Lost Sphear (yes, I loved this game, I'm as shocked as everyone else)
Xenogears (so far)
Chrono Cross (my guess?)
Chained Echoes
I typed out a whole huge comment explaining all my picks, but RUclips deleted it 😭😂
One day I wanna make a video kinda similar to this, but here's my ranking of all the Chrono-like game I've played from worst to best
Radical Dreamers
Sea of Stars
I Am Setsuna
Final Fantasy Dimensions II
Chrono Trigger
Lost Sphear (yes, I loved this game, I'm as shocked as everyone else... You should check it out if you haven't!)
Xenogears (so far)
Chrono Cross (my guess?)
Chained Echoes
@@gregtroyanone day, I gotta play all these games!!!
@@rpgranked Lost Sphear is on my wishlist. I definitely plan on playing it at some point!
You forgot to include the Final Fantasy XI Online Wings of the Goddess expansion and Final Fantasy XIII-2. Joking aside, I wish more games inspired by CT were in development, since Sea of Stars really missed the mark story-wise IMO.
WOTG FTW
If you ever try making your own C.T. fan game i gotchu on the pixel art.
Nice! Thank ya!
Was wondering where you got the info that Xenogears was going to be reworked into a Chrono sequel. The only connection I've heard was Gears originally being an early concept for FFVII
There are a few different sources. Interviews with Takahashi and Mitsuda verify this. Wikipedia links an interview with Takahashi (in Japanese) and if you do a Google search you can find the Mitsuda one easily. I'm not linking them because RUclips tends to mark them as spam, even on my own videos, but just head to the Xenogears Wikipedia, go to "Development", and read the first paragraph.
I actually did make Radical Dreamers into an RPG back in high school. Alas, that was almost 15 years ago. It is lost for good.
Noooooo
I wpuld have played the heck out of that thing. Do you have any screenshots?
@gregtroyan Unfortuntately, no part of it survived. To be clear, I was an amateur and a child just doing it for myself, so it probably wasn't good. Still wish I had it though. I had a lot of fun adapting Radical Dreamers. How restrictive RD's narrative was made it a challenge, though still veeerrrryy short.
We all know that the best Chrono game is Super Mario Odyssey !
Hard to argue that point.
Weird that everybody who said this list doesn't count and that there are only 3 Chrono games never responded to me asking about if Complex Dream counts? The game with Chrono Cross characters written by Masato Kato, with music by Mitsuda, with multiple endings, a new game plus feature, and 20 hours of gameplay. Can someone tell me if it's a real Chrono game?
I ONLY consider Chrono Cross/Trigger as the ONLY Chrono game on this list and NOT the OTHER 9.
@@veghesther3204Why don't you count Radical Dreamers? Also, did you watch the video?
I DO but only if its part of the Chrono Cross Remaster since that's really the ONLY way to play it in English else it doesn't even play like a normal RPG at all.
@@veghesther3204 You know Complex Dream has the Chrono Cross element system. 😉
I still hated that system.
Wait, so could i get every playable character in another Eden without spending a dollar??
Theoretically, yes.
@@gregtroyan but I assume it'd be quite difficult haha
@@rpgranked I have about 150 characters from playing free. A lot can be obtained just through playing normally and doing quests. Some can only be obtained through gacha, but you can do that for free. If you log in every day they give you free currency for gacha pulls, and I have almost all the characters I want, plus tons of others. I think there's like 3 or 4 characters I want specifically that I don't have yet.
It isn't hard getting every character (or most of) the characters you want. Starky is locked behind a hard side quest, but that doesn't involve currency just beating a superboss.
@gregtroyan good to know! That makes me a lot more excited to check it out!
I bet if Greg ranked all the Thin Lizzy studio albums he would get more views than this video. People like rankings. It's not a matter of what is being ranked. And Greg has never done a video ranking the Thin Lizzy albums. Too lazy.😌
I would be surprised if it got more views than this. My Beatles album ranking is under 1k views. The most popular video I have on Lizzy is under 2k views. That said, the second most popular Lizzy-related video I have is a Blue Murder song, so I'm sure that gives you some satisfaction.
Still say you having never done your own official video ranking of the Thin Lizzy albums is a bit troublesome.
The channels that have done it kinda messed it up, but the videos were popular.
@@Michael-----I figured that would be the grand finale to Thin Lizzy Thursday.
You can't let these clueless chaps be the official Thin Lizzy album ranking on RUclips.
ruclips.net/video/O-E9a2ndnJA/видео.htmlsi=CHeydTO3j9ZnQAja
If you count Xenogears then Xenogears is #1 Hands down. Xenogears is the all-time Best JRPG with #2 Lunar Silver Star Story Complete (PSX), #3 Seiken Densetsu 3(SNES) #4 Tales of Abyss (PS2) and #5 Chrono Trigger (PSX). Honorable mention to Xenosaga Episode 1 the only game so engrossing I beat it in one sitting.
no love for breath of fire? 1 > 3 > 4 > 2
@@displayname3730 Breath of Fire is a great series but there are a ton of great games that you have to be picky and also consider all gaming generations. Its easier to have a Solid Top 5. Considerations for the back 5 are contentious in my own head. Breath of Fire 2 and 3, Dragon Quest 4, 8, and 11, Final Fantasy 4 and 6, Golden Sun, Suikoden II, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Shadow Hearts: Covenant, Persona 5 Royal and Persona 4 Golden, Shin Megami Tensei 3 Noturne and Shin Megami Tensei 4, Wild Arms 3, Ni no Kuni 1 and 2, Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, Tales of Xillia and Graces F.
Lunar is so weird, like 15 years ago when I had my PSP I kept hearing about how good it was but for some reason the cover art and character design never pulled me in, so I always picked something else to play.
@@Ocean5ix Lunar Silver Star Story Complete is one of those games that should be played on a PlayStation hooked up to a CRT TV. Sure you can get it on PSP or GBA but it's on a smaller screen and those two versions were remakes. You can emulate it, but because most screens are LCD with 16:9, legacy games look noticeably worse, more pixelated than they would on a 4:3 CRT. Widescreen hacks stretch the image or you deal with black bars all around on 16:9. It definitely kills the vibe.
Think of it like watching a movie at home, versus watching it on your phone, versus watching one at the theater with friends. All versions are watchable, but the experience is different and so is the impression it leaves.
@@Beerpowered In the video I acknowledge Xenogears is probably my favorite game on this list, so I won't argue with you. I will say that I played Lunar on the PSP, emulated to full screen on my laptop, and I LOVED that version when played that way.
........the VAST majority of these don't count or have nothing to do with Chrono Trigger at all.
Does Complex Dream count?
For me NO since it never got a PS4 PS5 Switch etc port and doesn't even play like Trigger/Cross at all anyways and it doesn't have Chrono in its title.
@@veghesther3204 It is a turn based rpg with Serge, Harle, Kid, and Starky as playable characters. It has the Chrono Cross element system. It has new game plus. It was made by Kato, Mitsuda, and in collaboration with Square. How does it not play like the other games?
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But there aren't 11 GAMES in the Chrono series only Chrono Trigger/Cross count the REST of MODS/hacks of games so they don't count and the FF dimension games are IOS only.
What about Complex Dream?
Its still a Fan made hack/Mod Project so I don't count IT as a Chrono game the ONLY Chrono games on this video are Trigger and CROSS only.
@@veghesther3204Complex Dream isn't a fan-made product. It was made by Masato Kato, in collaboration with Square Enix, with music by Mitsuda and Chrono Cross characters. Why doesn't that count?
Well for me any games that are NOT on Consoles I don't count and I'm sure Complex Dream isn't a PS4 PS5 Switch X box line of games at all.
@@veghesther3204Steam games aren't real video games? Does that mean if play the Chrono Trigger Steam port that it's no longer a Chrono game?
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RIP Toriyama-Sensei
What a clickbait
I mean, Fei is literally in the thumbnail. The intro is also extremely up-front with what this video is.
You went and ruined this review with your political commentary. It's such a shame.
Should I not have commented on the political commentary in Chrono Source and just pretended it wasn't there?
@@gregtroyan it's your show, do as you please. But for me, and I imagine many others here, video games are our break from real life.
You can hate libertarianism all you like but there's a difference between pointing it out and explaining your hatred for it while mocking it.
@@DemitriosXmeh, ignore this guy's comment. I'm a libertarian myself and I didn't take offense on the criticism. The reviews of the games themselves were great, keep up the good work!
@@DemitriosXwhile plenty of games are nothing more than “a break from from reality” a lot of games try to be something more. A lot of art is political and sometimes you may not agree with what is shown but you can’t always expect everything to line up with how you see the world and require you to really engage with it. Maybe you’ll change your mind maybe you won’t but at least you can say you tried.
@@DemitriosX Do you watch videos where people complain about "wokeness" in games?