Correct, the years of screaming "down the line son" or "keep the ball in the air lads because when its there the can't get it" are past, English coaches have always been second best to foreign because they understand skill not brawn, thunderous tackles are more important
One of the reasons that English clubs played long balls was due to the state of the pitches. Watch any game pre mid-1980s and the pitches were like Rugby fields - hitting the ball long was an obvious option. Skillfull players struggled to run with the ball.,...which is why the world's best players headed for Italy in the 80s, where the pitches were decent. Worth saying though that when English clubs reached the European Cup final for 9 years out of 11 (winning it 7 times) no-one thought English Coaches were second-best then. In fact Barcalona tried to entice Brian CLough there in 1980, telling him " We are about to sign the best young player in the world - Maradonna". Imagine those two !!
Your comment does not make sense. You're saying Pleat has forgotten more than everyone else. How is that a compliment? You mean he's forgotten more about the game than many others have ever even learned.
It is crazy to me for example as a Portuguese person the vast majority of coaches in Portugal are Portuguese. The dutch league is the same dutch managers everywhere, Spain (mostly) the same especially outside of the top three its pretty much all Spanish, Italy the same. England is one of the few countries if not probably the most unique example where all the coaches bar a select few in top division are all foreign pretty much. Maybe it’s because Prem has more money to get the top managers but it really is a stark difference
When have there ever been more than a couple of top English managers? The cream go to the top leagues. When Italy was the top league how many English mangers were there? Hodgson at Inter. That's it. How many in Spain? Robson and Venebles. That's it. Ron Atkinson managing Man Utd is an example of how average English managers were.
Exactly, were only constantly told we have the top league because its selling the product. I would say La Liga has a strong claim to being the best. Real Madrid dominate the CL and Sevilla dominate the Europa. If Spanish teams aren't winning the european comps they are going deep into it.
England love claiming Scottish managers as their own don’t they😂. There are more world class managers from Glasgow alone than there is in the whole of England.
Its simple. EPL teams have mostly foreign players so it makes sense to hire a coach who speaks at least 2 or maybe 3 European languages. Its mostly that simple.
Not really because most players speak English, as they cannot all speak each others languages. In most dressing rooms with different nationalities in the team they speak English, because most players can speak English. Not just in the Premier League either.
Never in my life have English coaches been part of the conversation. the FA have done this country bad for years until now with Tucel but the fact your having this conversation now when we've had 8 years of absolute dripfeed under Southgate I find baffling because this conversation should of been a weekly discussion! stop kidding yourself and everyone with this bs! us lot are up our own jacksy thinking we can compete in certain areas when we can't! this ain't a new topic we've stunk the gaff out for 8 years with a guy totally out of his depth! so pipe down and get back to reality because this joke ain't nothing new!
I showed this comment section to a friend, he agreed so called his daughter round, she was amazed too, so she called her uncle and aunty, they called all their friends, and their friends and I even got everyone in the street too, there was about 300 of us all sat there and we all agreed, this comment section is nothing but bots nowadays
David Pleat is an idiot and a part of the problem. He mentions a few incidents with dubious outcomes and then goes on to say we should believe in referees 🤡
So the likes of Michael Owen, David Beckham, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Paul Scholes, Gareth Bale, Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, John Terry etc are average players are they?
lol even premier league how many percentage british player lol. Premier league can only compete with foreign player that they buy from la liga bundesliga portugal league and other league.
Fantastic to see David Pleat... an old school character who you could sit and listen to for hours
Winning English managers has never been a thing in premier league era and champions league era. Scottish managers on the other hand, dominated.
One Scottish manager dominated. That’s it
@@Trecesolotienesdosim pretty sure he’s referring to shankly as well. Even though that wasnt the champions league nor premier league era
Brian Clough?
@@Trecesolotienesdos One more than any other Engrish manager. The modern game is not for them
@@Thurmoman Won the European Cup but, never won anything in the champions league and the title in the premier league.
David Pleat an absolute institute for the English game. From SA
He's not ffs
I could listen to Pleaty all day. They should bring him on more.
The fact he had to say "British" to count in Ferguson tells you everything.
david pleat amazing and was so right about the coventry goal tv wanted man utd in the final
Ref didn't whistle, flag stayed down, yet suddenly his earpiece was burning to call a var check, it was very sinister to say the least.
Brilliant program, great interview.
Jordan and White at their very best.
Sir Lordship Simon & David = Top Lads Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts
A good man and manager. Great energy.
Pleat was a great tv commentator too.x
Correct, the years of screaming "down the line son" or "keep the ball in the air lads because when its there the can't get it" are past, English coaches have always been second best to foreign because they understand skill not brawn, thunderous tackles are more important
One of the reasons that English clubs played long balls was due to the state of the pitches. Watch any game pre mid-1980s and the pitches were like Rugby fields - hitting the ball long was an obvious option. Skillfull players struggled to run with the ball.,...which is why the world's best players headed for Italy in the 80s, where the pitches were decent. Worth saying though that when English clubs reached the European Cup final for 9 years out of 11 (winning it 7 times) no-one thought English Coaches were second-best then. In fact Barcalona tried to entice Brian CLough there in 1980, telling him " We are about to sign the best young player in the world - Maradonna". Imagine those two !!
Pleat has forgotten more about football than every football fan put together I imagine
Your comment does not make sense. You're saying Pleat has forgotten more than everyone else. How is that a compliment? You mean he's forgotten more about the game than many others have ever even learned.
Good to see David Pleat, so knowledgeable.
Great insight (what we already believed) on many things. Especially on the referees wanting to keep the Man Utd and Liverpool’s of this world happy.
this man is golden .
It is crazy to me for example as a Portuguese person the vast majority of coaches in Portugal are Portuguese. The dutch league is the same dutch managers everywhere, Spain (mostly) the same especially outside of the top three its pretty much all Spanish, Italy the same. England is one of the few countries if not probably the most unique example where all the coaches bar a select few in top division are all foreign pretty much. Maybe it’s because Prem has more money to get the top managers but it really is a stark difference
Decent Tottenham managers are also an hing of the past
Spot on about needing to score 3 against Liverpool to get a result. The Nation's team, the media's team!
The media's team? You mean the media who keep writing us off all the time?
so good. this is the gold standard
When have there ever been more than a couple of top English managers? The cream go to the top leagues. When Italy was the top league how many English mangers were there? Hodgson at Inter. That's it. How many in Spain? Robson and Venebles. That's it. Ron Atkinson managing Man Utd is an example of how average English managers were.
What Serie A the league that’s had more corruption scandals than any other top league in Europe 😂
John Toshack, too. There was another guy but it eludes me
@@finfog4590 Toshack is Welsh
@@RTM-Sports What has that got to do with anything? In the 90s the top players and managers were in Serie A.
@@MarcoSpeaksNadsat
that was 30 years ago mate. Serie A hasn’t even been in top three leagues for the past 20 years
Exactly, were only constantly told we have the top league because its selling the product. I would say La Liga has a strong claim to being the best. Real Madrid dominate the CL and Sevilla dominate the Europa. If Spanish teams aren't winning the european comps they are going deep into it.
But but look at Steven Gerrard 😅
Yh he rich and famous what do you have?
England love claiming Scottish managers as their own don’t they😂. There are more world class managers from Glasgow alone than there is in the whole of England.
Ever since the 2nd WW. The Hungarians reinvented football and it has gone in a completely different direction from the original British direct style.
How's the weather in cloud cuckoo land?
Danny Murphy has no gravity to offer his opinion. British passport is powerful 😂
Its simple. EPL teams have mostly foreign players so it makes sense to hire a coach who speaks at least 2 or maybe 3 European languages. Its mostly that simple.
Not really because most players speak English, as they cannot all speak each others languages. In most dressing rooms with different nationalities in the team they speak English, because most players can speak English. Not just in the Premier League either.
Never in my life have English coaches been part of the conversation. the FA have done this country bad for years until now with Tucel but the fact your having this conversation now when we've had 8 years of absolute dripfeed under Southgate I find baffling because this conversation should of been a weekly discussion! stop kidding yourself and everyone with this bs! us lot are up our own jacksy thinking we can compete in certain areas when we can't! this ain't a new topic we've stunk the gaff out for 8 years with a guy totally out of his depth! so pipe down and get back to reality because this joke ain't nothing new!
Did Jim drive him to the station 🤔
Pleat looks like Robert De Niro in the Joker.
Can you introduce me as...Joker
That's funny because now De Niro has turn into an absolute joker.
If Southgate is England's best manager to offer then england is in big trouble. I just love it. British bias can't offer good English coaches 😂
I showed this comment section to a friend, he agreed so called his daughter round, she was amazed too, so she called her uncle and aunty, they called all their friends, and their friends and I even got everyone in the street too, there was about 300 of us all sat there and we all agreed, this comment section is nothing but bots nowadays
But what about the cats?
English never equaled elite from a football manager perspective
sorry David but this sounds like management speak and I know you hate that
The bats are out!!!!
I think you mean bots. Anyhow agree with your sentiment completely
That was quality, a great man
The guy is idiot who contradicted himself in just this 9 min video 🤨
David Pleat is an idiot and a part of the problem. He mentions a few incidents with dubious outcomes and then goes on to say we should believe in referees 🤡
Lovely turtle neck
No such thing.
brits are ave rage in football beit player or managers
Proof EL FAIL es stupido , learn to spell and the only fool liking his dumb comments 🙄 😮😂😂
So the likes of Michael Owen, David Beckham, Steven Gerrard, Frank Lampard, Paul Scholes, Gareth Bale, Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand, John Terry etc are average players are they?
Grow up.
@@tfootball8704 Bunch of OVERHYPED ave rage brits personalities..did nothing international game..Owen was the first to rob ballon d'Or
@@eL--RaLstop liking your own comment rat
kERB CRAWLER!
lol even premier league how many percentage british player lol. Premier league can only compete with foreign player that they buy from la liga bundesliga portugal league and other league.
cos their cheaper