what makes a Stadium? the fans, the construction, all of the above & then some? i live in the U.S.A. but without a shadow of a doubt, Anfield is The Greatest Stadium In The World.
Fantastic footage Wayne as always 🌟🌟. Love the topics you covered.👍👍 It’s difficult to give the answers and you don’t know yourself and neither us do Let’s just hope in two years time we can get some clarified answers to what could be happening to Anfield Stadium , after the extra revenue has been generated through the Main Stand sand the New Expanded Anfield Road Stand. YNWA 🔴 Sparky 🍻🍻
Thank you so much mate 👍 hope so only this long to hear something even if the gliders are in service then will be a start but with future expansions I feel it will be longer for then answers - YnWa Sparky 🍺🍺
@ it’s always an honour being able to see your vids catch up on all the latest news surrounding Anfield we do need to add to the capacity but like you GreyBeard I’m over the moon we stayed as we have too much history and don’t really wanna move in the future YNWA
I think the best move for the Kop would be to completely demolish it and make it steeper. I get that it doesn’t make sense to spend millions on just an additional 3-5K seats, but the Kop is so small that any renovation/expansion will involve dismantling it from the outside anyway. If they make it steeper they may not have to build over the road as much too.
The big problem with expansion of the kop is the cost it would take to expand it. The Kop holds 12,800 the new Anfield road stand 16,000, that's only 3,200 more than the Kop already holds. To get the Kop to 16,000 given its footprint would need some major work. It obviously cannot mimic the Anfield road ends footprint because of the road behind it, even if they done a tunnel it's still a lot of work and would simply not be cost effective for an extra 3,000 seats. The Sir Kenny is possible with the 1st row of houses no longer there, however it would only be able to be similar to the Anfield road stand as in height and depth, the two sides of the Sir Kenny can possibly be filled in (not corners) which would add around an extra 7k-9k taking Anfield to above 70k capacity. This would make more financial sense as they can justify the extra seats and improved hospitality etc. It all depends on those who own the home's behind it, the will of our owners and transport. Quite a lot of variables which unfortunately will not be resolved anytime in the near future.
Can be expanded but doubt it would be anything as big as Anfield Road but even smaller expansion like the corners would be very expensive but hopefully in the future the transport is better then planning can begin
The kop can go higher and steeper without going further back. It's been done in other stadiums. The external concourse and commercial suites etc can be minimised for just more sear. There is enough boxes etc on the other 3 sides. It can be done
@justthetruth1 yes it can but it's not cost effective. You can't get anymore than what Anfield road stand holds 16k with the Kop even going steeper. The Anfield road expansion cosy around 80m even say 60m for the kop it doesn't make financial sense for an extra 3k capacity so they won't even entertain that option, certainly FSG won't.
@@scott3232yes it may not be enough but would most likely be a single tier stand like Dortmund. If you do the sides well too you might get an extra 5k in. I agree though money wise it doesn't stack up. SKD stand is the most likely next move I would say at least 8 years away from even the planning stage. FSG get knocked a fair bit but 2 new stands in their tenure alone is impressive.
@justthetruth1 I get what you are saying mate but to do that to the Kop as in filling corners too, the Sir Kenny would definitely need to be done first. The roof and the current police control centre in the Sir Kenny would completely block any corner seats that side in the Kop and I'm not entirely sure it's possible to do what Dortmund done on the main stand either. That main stand truss is massive mate a lot bigger and heavier than any in the Dortmund stadium so might be wrong but not sure they could suspend that truss end like in Dortmund. Even if they could then that's going to be a very expensive option. I just think any capacity increase for LFC will need to be through building a new stadium now. You add the cost and everything like needing a lot of houses bought up which could easily go on for another 20+ year's then you have transport and congestion of a 75k stadium, it just seems like our options are stay at this capacity for a long long time or starting to make plans of a new stadium elsewhere that can handle transport etc and allow us to go to even 80k or more. Realistically we need a new stadium elsewhere to get a much larger stadium so it's whether the fans would prefer to stay put for obvious reasons or move and move with the times.
I love Anfield but we had planning permission for Stanley Park and I wonder if they seriously looked at a new stadium? I would've been finished years ago and we'd be in a 70k plus stadium. I look at what Real Madrid and Barca are doing and we're being left behind!!!
Leaving Anfield would have been a horrible decision. Barca and Real have massive stadiums yes, but I wouldn’t trade Anfield for a stadium like that. Liverpool’s home must always be Anfield.
Enjoyed you post Gray Beard .. just to let you know the pronunciation for our brilliant number two goalkeeper is Qweef .... Keller ☘️ Enjoy your day from Brisbane Queensland Australia 🇦🇺
There are examples of solutions for all the stumbling blocks around the world and Uk even. Newcastle talk of expanding, and they've a lot less room than Anfield. Problems are there to be solved. Even if they made new roofs for older stands, which match the newer roof profiles, and added a few more boxes above. IDK?? Great video again though ta!!
The easiest solution is for the owners to cough up for people to move , and bring in a rail link , what will that cost £30-£50 mill and then the build costs on top, its a fair bit of money however thats the cost of one player these days,
Awesome mate, don't forget to check out the stadium tour and museum, as its well worth 25 quid - YnWa, museum since being redone is Awesome with all the trophies and history
We need a bigger ground,I would say the sweet spot would be 72.000 to 75.000 capacity,we will need that kind of capacity to compete with the other big clubs , if we don’t expand further we will be left behind and that would be criminal.YNWA
I would say 100k ..my issue remains at some point we will have to relocate to compete ..Arsenal, Utd, West Ham ..soon Spurs will be planning further expansions ..we cant target for 75k and says thats it. Unfortunately, I see us moving at some point in the future
@@KopJustin you might be right about moving,if that’s the case why didn’t we just move into Stanley park where the capacity would of been no problem .YNWA
@@redkop1964 I still favored a new ground mate for this very reason ..seems like we will be stuck battling the city council and others for permissions to expanding stand by stand ..Klopp had once mentioned Twickenham Rugby ground as a potential alternative ..
I think FSG will be happy with this capacity, especially with further work requiring massive transport investment. They are making money. As long as their model gets to CL most of the time they'll be happy. Overall they underinvested a little in the team when it was needed and even now we're a few injuries away from serious problems as we don't have the top level depth.
Yeah I agree and possibly losing Salah on a free at the end will be a disaster so if we do they need to invest more In the playing side, hopefully vvd and taa will sign contracts
Think it will be at least a couple of decades before any further development of Anfield happens unless Liverpool are taken over by new owners with massive funds and ambition. Thanks as usual GB
No ways forward now without better transport links even expansion of the kop corners which probably is easier of all options would take Anfield to atleast 65 000 in which a rail link would have to be needed
GB Great stadium definitely need to make it bigger And sorry I missed. It was very busy when I was up. Went round at vile road. So some really shoddy work to do with stones. Answer the growbed. Him wasn't the best. I live some pictures and everything. So some of the parts And the road bricks were broken and the limestone And also I mentioned the window hills. I need AM field tour. I did. I did it with some of Mexico. Was so nice and he had to be on Facebook. Still wouldn't like to give you all something. I'm gonna do a donation to you all. Is that's okay? Sorry , I was a bit busy when I was up What I went to see of really brilliant youtuber at the hot water comedy club I love my time at baby sad when I had to go home I know I was the all the christmas lights and got some lovely pictures hoping to come up next year and I'm trying to get tickets to a game. Next season and it's very difficult unless you're willing to pay a lot of 💰 But I have to try and arrange with your water to see you and had some wonderful news. Like girlfriend and me. I haven't a baby, so it's all good. That it was subsided to the liver at home but come up and have a great time Had a good look around town. Things are so much changed since the last Came up to liverpool ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Not knowing Liverpool in great detail is there anywhere that they could move in the city that would meet all the criteria needed for a bigger stadium? I highly doubt anything would happen under fsg, would take Arab money in my opinion.
I think the car park on stanley park for half the ground and the other half going into the park. Then build a new park and car park where the current stadium is along with other things like shops bars, restaurants. Better bus stops or a coach station and open up that old railway line. Obviously this would be at least 1-2B so we'd definitely need new owners 😂
Ive never driven past anywhere in city that looks to have enough space. Likes been said below Stanley park would have been ideal but the snowflakes would be up in arms us taking up the land there. The old ground could then house a proper museum, club shop, casino, restaurants, hotel and make it a 365 day area. Bringing in revenue and enhancing the area. Bringing r
There are quite a few pubs by the grounds, loads to pick from, The Sandon, The Arkles, The Park, King Harry, The Church Pub just to name a few, probably over 15 or so to choose from 👍
great vid gb correct me if im wrong but dont we still hold a lease for 100 years from when hicks and gillette ran the club they signed off with liverpool council for lease so i dont see why they dont re build a new stadium. as iconic as anfield if we has the space of stanley park not only could we replicate it but bring it up to the standard that is gonna be needed for the next 30 years the kop and skd stand are in bad shape and with stanley park we could build a tram line or a hub for getting in and out of ground not to mention if they knocked anfield down the money for the land alone could pay a massive chunk of any new stadium id rather stay at anfield but we have no room
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what makes a Stadium? the fans, the construction, all of the above & then some? i live in the U.S.A. but without a shadow of a doubt, Anfield is The Greatest Stadium In The World.
Fantastic footage Wayne as always 🌟🌟. Love the topics you covered.👍👍 It’s difficult to give the answers and you don’t know yourself and neither us do
Let’s just hope in two years time we can get some clarified answers to what could be happening to Anfield Stadium , after the extra revenue has been generated through the Main Stand sand the New Expanded Anfield Road Stand.
YNWA 🔴 Sparky 🍻🍻
Thank you so much mate 👍 hope so only this long to hear something even if the gliders are in service then will be a start but with future expansions I feel it will be longer for then answers - YnWa Sparky 🍺🍺
Another fantastic video Thank you GreyBeard 100% with ya on giving something back to the locals with a Community Centre YNWA
Thank you so much mate - YnWa
@ it’s always an honour being able to see your vids catch up on all the latest news surrounding Anfield we do need to add to the capacity but like you GreyBeard I’m over the moon we stayed as we have too much history and don’t really wanna move in the future YNWA
I think the best move for the Kop would be to completely demolish it and make it steeper. I get that it doesn’t make sense to spend millions on just an additional 3-5K seats, but the Kop is so small that any renovation/expansion will involve dismantling it from the outside anyway. If they make it steeper they may not have to build over the road as much too.
The big problem with expansion of the kop is the cost it would take to expand it.
The Kop holds 12,800 the new Anfield road stand 16,000, that's only 3,200 more than the Kop already holds.
To get the Kop to 16,000 given its footprint would need some major work. It obviously cannot mimic the Anfield road ends footprint because of the road behind it, even if they done a tunnel it's still a lot of work and would simply not be cost effective for an extra 3,000 seats.
The Sir Kenny is possible with the 1st row of houses no longer there, however it would only be able to be similar to the Anfield road stand as in height and depth, the two sides of the Sir Kenny can possibly be filled in (not corners) which would add around an extra 7k-9k taking Anfield to above 70k capacity.
This would make more financial sense as they can justify the extra seats and improved hospitality etc.
It all depends on those who own the home's behind it, the will of our owners and transport.
Quite a lot of variables which unfortunately will not be resolved anytime in the near future.
Can be expanded but doubt it would be anything as big as Anfield Road but even smaller expansion like the corners would be very expensive but hopefully in the future the transport is better then planning can begin
The kop can go higher and steeper without going further back. It's been done in other stadiums. The external concourse and commercial suites etc can be minimised for just more sear. There is enough boxes etc on the other 3 sides. It can be done
@justthetruth1 yes it can but it's not cost effective. You can't get anymore than what Anfield road stand holds 16k with the Kop even going steeper. The Anfield road expansion cosy around 80m even say 60m for the kop it doesn't make financial sense for an extra 3k capacity so they won't even entertain that option, certainly FSG won't.
@@scott3232yes it may not be enough but would most likely be a single tier stand like Dortmund. If you do the sides well too you might get an extra 5k in. I agree though money wise it doesn't stack up. SKD stand is the most likely next move I would say at least 8 years away from even the planning stage. FSG get knocked a fair bit but 2 new stands in their tenure alone is impressive.
@justthetruth1 I get what you are saying mate but to do that to the Kop as in filling corners too, the Sir Kenny would definitely need to be done first. The roof and the current police control centre in the Sir Kenny would completely block any corner seats that side in the Kop and I'm not entirely sure it's possible to do what Dortmund done on the main stand either. That main stand truss is massive mate a lot bigger and heavier than any in the Dortmund stadium so might be wrong but not sure they could suspend that truss end like in Dortmund.
Even if they could then that's going to be a very expensive option.
I just think any capacity increase for LFC will need to be through building a new stadium now.
You add the cost and everything like needing a lot of houses bought up which could easily go on for another 20+ year's then you have transport and congestion of a 75k stadium, it just seems like our options are stay at this capacity for a long long time or starting to make plans of a new stadium elsewhere that can handle transport etc and allow us to go to even 80k or more.
Realistically we need a new stadium elsewhere to get a much larger stadium so it's whether the fans would prefer to stay put for obvious reasons or move and move with the times.
I love Anfield but we had planning permission for Stanley Park and I wonder if they seriously looked at a new stadium? I would've been finished years ago and we'd be in a 70k plus stadium. I look at what Real Madrid and Barca are doing and we're being left behind!!!
Both of them built on current site though
Leaving Anfield would have been a horrible decision. Barca and Real have massive stadiums yes, but I wouldn’t trade Anfield for a stadium like that. Liverpool’s home must always be Anfield.
Enjoyed you post Gray Beard .. just to let you know the pronunciation for our brilliant number two goalkeeper is
Qweef .... Keller ☘️
Enjoy your day from Brisbane Queensland Australia 🇦🇺
There are examples of solutions for all the stumbling blocks around the world and Uk even. Newcastle talk of expanding, and they've a lot less room than Anfield. Problems are there to be solved. Even if they made new roofs for older stands, which match the newer roof profiles, and added a few more boxes above. IDK?? Great video again though ta!!
The easiest solution is for the owners to cough up for people to move , and bring in a rail link , what will that cost £30-£50 mill and then the build costs on top, its a fair bit of money however thats the cost of one player these days,
be there in march for the very first time be happy just to look in @ the stadium regards from cork ynwa
Awesome mate, don't forget to check out the stadium tour and museum, as its well worth 25 quid - YnWa, museum since being redone is Awesome with all the trophies and history
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey wiil do cant wait to get there .thanks
@corkion your welcome mate - you will see what a proper collection of trophies looks like 👍 YnWa
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey ynwa
Fantastic video mate
Thank you so much mate 👍
great vid thank u
Thank you so much 👍
We need a bigger ground,I would say the sweet spot would be 72.000 to 75.000 capacity,we will need that kind of capacity to compete with the other big clubs , if we don’t expand further we will be left behind and that would be criminal.YNWA
I would say 100k ..my issue remains at some point we will have to relocate to compete ..Arsenal, Utd, West Ham ..soon Spurs will be planning further expansions ..we cant target for 75k and says thats it. Unfortunately, I see us moving at some point in the future
Where would you build it, wouldn't really happen in Anfield with the current transport network 🤔 YnWa
@@KopJustin you might be right about moving,if that’s the case why didn’t we just move into Stanley park where the capacity would of been no problem .YNWA
@@redkop1964 I still favored a new ground mate for this very reason ..seems like we will be stuck battling the city council and others for permissions to expanding stand by stand ..Klopp had once mentioned Twickenham Rugby ground as a potential alternative ..
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey stanley park,but you will still need to sort out the transport infrastructure.YNWA
I think FSG will be happy with this capacity, especially with further work requiring massive transport investment. They are making money. As long as their model gets to CL most of the time they'll be happy. Overall they underinvested a little in the team when it was needed and even now we're a few injuries away from serious problems as we don't have the top level depth.
Yeah I agree and possibly losing Salah on a free at the end will be a disaster so if we do they need to invest more In the playing side, hopefully vvd and taa will sign contracts
Think it will be at least a couple of decades before any further development of Anfield happens unless Liverpool are taken over by new owners with massive funds and ambition. Thanks as usual GB
You're welcome mate and yes we will need bigger richer owners to push Anfield onto the next level I feel
I would have thought that any more expansion, would be held up by improvement of transport links.
No ways forward now without better transport links even expansion of the kop corners which probably is easier of all options would take Anfield to atleast 65 000 in which a rail link would have to be needed
GB Great stadium definitely need to make it bigger And sorry I missed. It was very busy when I was up. Went round at vile road. So some really shoddy work to do with stones. Answer the growbed. Him wasn't the best. I live some pictures and everything. So some of the parts And the road bricks were broken and the limestone And also I mentioned the window hills. I need AM field tour. I did. I did it with some of Mexico. Was so nice and he had to be on Facebook. Still wouldn't like to give you all something. I'm gonna do a donation to you all. Is that's okay? Sorry , I was a bit busy when I was up What I went to see of really brilliant youtuber at the hot water comedy club I love my time at baby sad when I had to go home I know I was the all the christmas lights and got some lovely pictures hoping to come up next year and I'm trying to get tickets to a game. Next season and it's very difficult unless you're willing to pay a lot of 💰 But I have to try and arrange with your water to see you and had some wonderful news. Like girlfriend and me. I haven't a baby, so it's all good. That it was subsided to the liver at home but come up and have a great time Had a good look around town. Things are so much changed since the last Came up to liverpool ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Hotel is planned across the road isn’t it??
Not on Anfield square
No, no plans at all now, originally it was Anfield Square👍
What are they waiting for
A lot unfortunately, transport network needs sorting first then proper planning could begin on Kop Stand
Not knowing Liverpool in great detail is there anywhere that they could move in the city that would meet all the criteria needed for a bigger stadium?
I highly doubt anything would happen under fsg, would take Arab money in my opinion.
Good question that and a future vid deffo, good talking point
I think the car park on stanley park for half the ground and the other half going into the park. Then build a new park and car park where the current stadium is along with other things like shops bars, restaurants. Better bus stops or a coach station and open up that old railway line. Obviously this would be at least 1-2B so we'd definitely need new owners 😂
Ive never driven past anywhere in city that looks to have enough space.
Likes been said below Stanley park would have been ideal but the snowflakes would be up in arms us taking up the land there.
The old ground could then house a proper museum, club shop, casino, restaurants, hotel and make it a 365 day area.
Bringing in revenue and enhancing the area.
Bringing r
is there a pub near the stadium ?
There are quite a few pubs by the grounds, loads to pick from, The Sandon, The Arkles, The Park, King Harry, The Church Pub just to name a few, probably over 15 or so to choose from 👍
@@greybeardmedia-merseysidebey thank u
Should have gone for a new stadium in my opinion doing stand by stand takes forever
great vid gb correct me if im wrong but dont we still hold a lease for 100 years from when hicks and gillette ran the club they signed off with liverpool council for lease so i dont see why they dont re build a new stadium. as iconic as anfield if we has the space of stanley park not only could we replicate it but bring it up to the standard that is gonna be needed for the next 30 years the kop and skd stand are in bad shape and with stanley park we could build a tram line or a hub for getting in and out of ground not to mention if they knocked anfield down the money for the land alone could pay a massive chunk of any new stadium id rather stay at anfield but we have no room
Thank you so much, I'm not sure about the lease