Martin Keown embarrasses Jim White and Simon Jordan over Celtic fans and the minute's silence
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Martin Keown talks sense as he embarrasses Jim White and Simon Jordan with a measured take over Celtic fans and the minute's silence.
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Some people need to get a grip it is not illegal to not wear a poppy or to stand in protest to crimes committed
British and allies fought to get rid of fascism why are these commentators supporting the fascists who have highjacked it for their own political agendas
Another Celtic scum bag
nobody said it was
Standing in protest and other forms of protest are fine; disrupting the actual silence is not. To do so, is grossly intolerant and belligerent. It denies any such choice to others. 🍀
Also the media banging on about 'pro-IRA' songs being sung. What nonsense. The only song sung was about Aidan McAnespie, an innocent civilian who was on his way to a GAA match and was murdered (shot in the back) after he passed through a British army checkpoint. It should never be acceptable that poppy fascism etc be forced on people based on historical reasons but British fascists will never accept that.
Celtics fans sang a song about an innocent lad murdered by the British army on his way to a GAA match (Aiden Mc Anespie RIP 💚) not an IRA song as stated!
We are the British you numptie look at your passport
Three scottish soldiers murdered by yer beloved ira...... SHHOOOSHT
Wit the f..k has that got todo with Scottish football f..k all.
Well said Micky I’m originally from near Glasgow , I was in Aughnacloy last year in County Tyrone at the spot Aidan was murdered by a British soldier
@@mickyinireland4337 wits that got to do with Scottish football.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I’d stay silent for 1 min , as long a it was made clear it was to remember the dead on all sides of conflict.. all countries, all working class souls that fought against oppression.. it’s not though. The so called bad guys, the Germans, the Iraqis , the Afghans, the Palestinians, the Irish, take your pick.. its aim is to commemorate the empire. Remember all dead, because I have more in common with a poor enemy, than a rich friend
Piss
i'm sure you've got a lot in common with Iraqi's ,Afghans and Palestinians mate , stfu
Unless that commonality is broken when the "poor enemy" wishes to observe a minute's silence for which he, of course, perceives to be in honour of the country's war dead, however. It's perfectly acceptable to boycott the minute's silence or protest it in some other way but to actually disrupt it is denying the opportunity of those wishing to show respect for the country's war dead. I'm an Irish nationalist and Celtic supporter that grew up in the midst of the Troubles in Belfast and I find the actual disruption of the silence both reprehensible and repugnant. To disrupt a silence for the dead is crassly intolerant, one-sided and belligerent. 🍀
'Dunfermline' fan he said Rangers wrong. Points deduction? 😂😂😂😂 How many points would Rangers be deducted for singing up to their knees in fenian blood?
Close both clubs down. Two cheeks from the same arse!
Brilliantly put I’ve been saying it in comments all day and McInnes was at Ibrox as well when it happened , he never complained then when picking up his wages
They would be back in the bottom league
@@PK043 They would be given an extra 1690
Pro ira 😂 it was a song about a young man shot in the back and murdered by British soldiers
@@Hunhater I know mate. That guy was a balloon
and the soilder was found guilty of murder with a 3 year suspended sentence is that justice
Wit the f..k has that got to do with Scottish football sweet f..k all.
@@iandavidthomson6428should of been 12
Nothing to do with those killed during any war all to do with the British Empire and their crimes against humanity.
We should be shouting and screaming from the rooftops to call out all governments who are happy to kill or stand by and watch ordinary people, soldiers and civilians(both are innocents) die on the killing fields around the globe ...this whole thing smacks of hypocrisy and hubris ...only the hunnic hordes could get their knickers in a twist over something like this ...surely their forefathers at Verdun where fighting for the very right of those Celtic fans to express there opinion about atrocities committed...by people who profess to do so in the name of their King and a God ..? This is one fucked up world we live in ...
says who ? stop talking pish
The brits make out everybody should be with them, no matter who they are , itll always be there
Celtic have 3 Japanese and a German player...what were they expected to do?
Who were they meant to be respecting?
Aiden McAnespie is not a pro IRA song and the caller should know that
Come on panel try telling rule brittania rangers mob to respect others when playing in germany with their bombing songs, mimicking aeroplanes,😢
respect? Where's the respect for Aidan McAnespies family who had to wait to 2022 for justice to prevail
The judge suspended the sentence. That soldier didn’t spend a second in jail for murdering him.
Is this the same Jim White who laughed at Celtic fans remembering the millions who died or were displaced by the potato famine? Him and his fat pal Nicholas said the Celtic fans were singing about the famine while eating chips.
Don't get the point 🎉
@ the point is thicko that he is complaining that Celtic fans didn’t show respect for people who had died during the war while laughing at millions who died of starvation.Hypocritical
Yes the Nazis you worship let millions of people starve to death and we're responsible for the worse barbarism ever seen in recent history
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ATROCITIES THE BRITS CARRIED OUT ON IRISH SOIL
that's nothing to do with silence for the two world wars mate and the remembrance of the dead , who fought for the freedoms in the country you are resident in .
During the same match Kilmarnock fans sang " we are up to our knees in fenian blood".
No problem with that
I am a Celtic fan that worked with killie fans they sing we are the killie boys and say Ayr Talking about there rivals Ayr united
Except when playing Celtic when Killie boys is changed to Billie boys
@@Martin-pz1sg Really? Thats news to me.Didnt happen .
@ what didn’t happen
@@Martin-pz1sg Killie singing “Billy boys” didn’t happen. They sang “Killie boys” and up to their knees in Ayr blood. Sing it all the time fyi .
'Keep politics out of football' but only when it suits them. There shouldn't be minute's silences at football games (except for recently passed players and staff of either club).
Why is that? Because Timmy doesn't like it?
@@UnderAGlassMetropolisyes
@@UnderAGlassMetropolis Because it's nothing to do with football. It's meant to be a solemn moment's reflection about people who died in British wars. What the hell has that got to do with football? We go to football to forget all that pish. Nothing about keeping politics out of football?
We all know why Billy likes the minute's silence. And it's got nothing to do with remembering war dead.
Old firm are a disgrace
@@alka7145 Is this you taking the moral high ground?
I'm an Irish Celtic supporter. The British army shot dead an innocent child of ten in my street. Do these people expect me to remember the troops that murdered this child and other children in Ireland?
I’m an Irish Celtic supporter. The IRA murdered children of all ages on my streets. Do these people expect me to remember the thugs that murdered these children and other people in Ireland?
My uncle was shot died in the war f..king get over it I don’t hate the Germans it was a f..king war.
Exactly
what's your views on the Armagh bombing?
@@jag2491 Omagh , do you mean? A terrible massacre of innocents.
100% correct Simon .. not often I agree with you .. but fair play .. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
🍻Mon the Celtic🍻
Remembrance Sunday occurs on the second Sunday in November from 11:00 to 11:01 AM not any other time.
My father was in the navy during the war. On the North Atlantic convoys to Murmansk.
That was 2 years after the Clydebank Blitz where my parents home was flattened and all they has was the clothes on their backs and my brother and sister
He NEVER wore a poppy or took part in any commemoration
He got on with his life
When was the first minutes silences held for Remembrance Sunday? It is a relatively recent event, starting in the early 90s. Its all to do with celebrating imperialism and trying to pretend the UK is still a military superpower.
@@greenjedi8 at football, yes
Hear Hear
We should be shouting and screaming from the rooftops to call out all governments who are happy to kill or stand by and watch ordinary people, soldiers and civilians(both are innocents) die on the killing fields around yhe globe ...this whole thing smacks of hypocrisy and hubris ...only ghe hunnic hordes could get their knickers in a twist over something like this ...surely their forefathers at Verdun where fight for the very right of those Celtic fans to express there opinion about atrocities committed...by people who profess to do so in the name of their King and a God ..? This is one fucked up world we live in ...
The British army had concentration camps in Kenya not but 7 years after WW2 ended, they sadistically and brutaly tortured tens of thousands of Mau Mau in their own land and hung thouands.. Brtitish run "CONCENTRATION CAMPS" in the 1950's not long after the ones in Germany were shut down... committed atrocity after atrocity worldwide, from Kenya to Iraq, lets not apologize for not being manipluated and conforming to this poppy fascism p!sh, "Let the people sing"
The British were famous for the use of concentration camps in South Africa during the Boer war....perhaps we should have a minutes silence for the women and chosen who died during that campaign....it was British institutional intransigence that caused the famine in the mid 19th century ...governments around the globe are quite happy to watch millions of people die in war,famine, and pestilence ,without lifting a finger to help...let's have a minutes silence for them ...then we will be silent for the rest of time ...its time to shout from the tallest structures...and to call them out..
We should be shouting and screaming from the rooftops to call out all governments who are happy to kill or stand by and watch ordinary people, soldiers and civilians(both are innocents) die on the killing fields around the globe ...this whole thing smacks of hypocrisy and hubris ...only the hunnic hordes could get their knickers in a twist over something like this ...surely their forefathers at Verdun where fighting for the very right of those Celtic fans to express there opinion about atrocities committed...by people who profess to do so in the name of their King and a God ..? This is one fucked up world we live in ...
Why do they even have a minute's silence at football matches? Especially when Britain is complicit in the genocide in Palestine.
So should we all stop it because Timothy and co don’t like it?
You don’t have to be involved, you just need to show respect. The vast majority of Scottish catholics had parents and grandparents who were involved in WW2, you think they agree with your idiotic protests. As regards Gaza, unless you are muslim or Jew, just mind your own business unless you are going to ship out to the country if your sympathy and fight their cause!!!
The poppy fascists out in force, same every year. Not a word from White & Co about the Ibrox songbook every weekend 😂. Lies as usual about ira songs being sung, utter rubbish
@@johnreeveswilliamson7228So I don't have the right not to support serial killers in an army uniform?
@hoggybhoy1967 Yet your fans glorify and idolise the IRA? C'mon, now.
How about not having half the British army at ibroke on the same Sunday
What about killie fans singing the Irish hate songs nothing said about that
@@thomasmcfarlane7529 Doesn’t fit the narrative mate
Which songs were that mate?
@ billy Bhoys
@@thomasmcfarlane7529 Killie boys NOT billy boys. A difference. And where in the actual Billy Boys song is Ireland or Irish mentioned?
@ look up song
Aiden McAnespie is NOT a pro - IRA song, nowhere near it ffs
What does Jenkins have to say about Maccabi supporters
Rodgers is an Catholic from northern Ireland its part of his heritage and culture and history of been under the rule of Britain so he knows more than anyone about it.
Mark Celtic fan? Aye right
He's just sucking up there arses for his 5 minutes of fame
Points reduction its not the club or anything to do with the football side of things that guy hasn't a clue
I Derrick same guy that sang the sash eh anyway it's the same every year so what's new just media stirring up
Points deduction,the huns are getting desperate haha ,im waiting on someone mention Kilmarnock fans after the minutes applause singing they were up to there knees in fenian blood
I’m a Celtic fan but they sing we are the killie boys and sing about their rivals Ayr united
@ what’s the difference , do you think there song is original haha
@@robertcairney2955 The changed wording is important. But it doesn’t suit your version of events.
Wonder if other denominations would have a minutes silence for Bloody Sunday
This is what Celtic fans were singing,it's not pro IRA...For years he was hounded
By the forces of the crown
As he walked to work every day
He left his native town
The soldiers swore they'd get him
For reasons no one could say
And sure enough they murdered him
In cold blood on that sunny day I'll never wear a poppy nor bend the knee to Brit Imperialism..
If you hate the Royal family clap your hands
Respect has to be earned you don’t earn it by murdering people in their own country
So the fallen paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom come with the caveat that you must/have to agree with the poppy and minutes silence,they fought for our freedoms of opinion.
are the fallen, all the fallen in all wars remembered, i cant see how it helps anyone having these occasions on a soccer pitch,
We’re not going to take lessons from JIm when we know his history nor an apology from Sky when they don’t apologize for people wading up to their knees in fenan blood not indeed Derek when he stood listening to his Rangers Chairman sing it and as for Rodgers calling into question Celtic fans
It's a personal choice
for our tommorow,they gave their today,we will remember them,lest we forget
Hibs fan and got to say celtic fans support for there team has always been tremendous in the over fifty years I've been watching scottish football. But a sizeable minority let themselves and club down when they cannot respect a minutes silence for the fallen. Withstanding the greviounces of the past.
@@davidmackay7597 Then you don’t really get it do you?
@Born_Celtic or maybe you don't?.
Absolute bunch of Rodents. If they don't like Britain they they should just go and live somewhere else. They care more about Palestine. Absolute joke of a fan base. I know plenty of Celtic supporters who served. Shame for them guys that they've got to watch that crap.
@ Nah mate. No one let the club down. No Celtic fan thinks that way. That’s why YOU don’t get it. Keep waving those green tinted butchers aprons and enjoy relegation
How's the soup
If you deduct enough points maybe the forces of darkness at Ipox might have a chance.
Nobody talks about the money Celtic donate to the poppy fund Ten thousand pounds every year what other clubs donate?
Proof?
@@jag2491 Thats true actually. But wouldnt expect you to applaud that.
Keep politics out of sport. Poppy politics, IRA politics, Gaza politics
Ukrainian politics?
That will never happen, you cannot divorce sport from the wider society. Simon Kuper’s “Football against the Enemy” is a good book about this, although it’s a bit dated now.
Fair play Martin Keown the whole thing is wrong England were the non aggressors in two wars but were the aggressors in other wars.
What's ww1 got to do with football 🫣
Like a lot of things in life it depends what angle you look at it
In a democracy people don't have to agree. End of story.
BRITS OUT
Let’s be.honest the Celtic board should be doing more on this front , we were founded to feed Irish immigrants, it’s an insult that the club were ever asked to do a minutes silence to begin with , the Celtic board coudnt give a fuck as long as the money is coming in
Read your history.
I'm a total neutral from a Commonwealth country, and I was seriously disappointed but not surprised, nearly all the comments on here are of we're the victims here and they said that and the Killie fans done that, grow up take responsibility for your actions absolutely pathetic, if you hate your country and the vast majority of the people in it why don't you leave, to shown in such a light on a worldwide stage is beyond belief.
Celtic fans embarrassing and I love Celtic but can’t agree with this Celtic fans need to stand up to this mob who are ruining our club
Yous murdered aidan mcanespie on his way to the gaelic ground 💯💯 they we picked the right song let me tell ya ✊🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Change the date then
Mark is a soup taker. Don't be like Mark.
As a Celtic fan I was ashamed.
Just catching up on this. Agree or not agree, they deliberately chose the song which was anti British not Pro IRA. If you're going to comment, why not comment on factual information
The subjegation of the irish people for centuries is absolute justification of the booing. Why shouldnt there be a debate to remove the minutes silence in general. We are always being told to keep the politics out of football. The money raised from poppies goes to the British Royal Legion which pays for soldiers that served in northern Ireland. Respecting a royal family shoved down our throats and legally enshrines the protestant faith , excluding catholics is nothing to celebrate. The nonsese that Irish soldiers joined the British army is in no way vindication of that as more often than not this was only achieved through starving and brutalising the families of irish people and was made to seem like the only stable income available.
Good comment. Funny how Simon Jordan is constantly banging on about removing politics from football, except when it doesn't suit his own politics, funny that.
Point's deduction lol huns gettin desperate lol
This was never an issue until about 20 years ago when the poppy was changed from two world wars to cover all wars and occupations including Northern Ireland and Iraq ect!
We live in a free society....there is a contradiction straight away..people are in prison for leaving messages on social media ffs.....why was the Celtic game not on Saturday....played Tuesday in Europe.....shoulda been a noon kick off on Saturday
Tans are going to tan!
at least celtic fans stand up for humanity
If you took the hate away from some fans they would have nothing to sing about.
A points deduction to stop people airing their view.What a joke it just doesn’t suit the British they can’t take it when they’re wrong.
so its ok week in week out for rangers and their supporters to sing celebratory songs about the irish famine and about being up to their knees in fenion blood.
The proper historical discourse that allows people to analyse all aspects of British history has been buried to allow the jingoistic zealots to beat on about the poppy and what it represents to them without ever thinking about the victims on the receiving end of British imperialism/colonialism. These individuals are 'stone age' in their approach and will only ever accept rhe 'Rule Britannia' discourse without looking at things objectively in a mature, non-biased fashion. Instead the red 'poppy fascism' mist comes out and they cannot accept a rational debate over why the poppy might be seen as a threatening symbol to others and a reminder to these folk of innocent, loved ones lost at the expense of military forces' actions.
Dave the Dunfermline fan.🤔🤥
Can you not have a picture of Derek MC Innes at rugby park instead of Ibrox trying to stir things up
FFS put the past behind you all. This is 2024 not 1921. Celtic are the greatest team in the world. To confuse it with palistine is a mistake, the wars in the Middle East has nothing to do with Scotland. Stand for your team, not for wars.
Putting the past behind you involves owning up to what was done in the past. The recent amnesty put through Westminster conflicts with this, but yet a minute’s silence will be foisted upon people in Liverpool, Glasgow etc. when one of the British Royal family passes away.
Tbf if it were just for the fallen soldiers in the first and second WW’s more would respect it but it’s for ALL fallen soldiers which makes it different..me personally I would respect it but understand other not wanting too..end of the day killie knew this would happen..but go ahead anyways..why not do a minutes applause then like other clubs do??
Bro I’m a Celtic man and I 100 💯 per cent agree either way you I’m all for the men and women you fell for us in the First World War and the Second World War 💚but the slaughter of innocent t catholics in the north by the British was disgusting
disrespecting all the Irish soldiers who fought in the two great wars , disgrace . The only ones that are embarrassing themselves is the Celtic fans
Well done those fans
Talksport - I would say it's the Daily Star radio equivalent but it's far worse than that - absolute junk.
There shouldn't be a minute silence at Celtic games simple
Points deduction!!!!!! Didn't see that coming at all!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why does the Green brigade politics to a football match
Why is there a silence for Political Wars?
Exactly
Why do they glorify the military at Ibrox?
Points deduction well that's rungers down and out
Rodgers is Southgate mark 2
Simon you are missing it its nothing to do with the Great Wars.
Mcinness hypocryte billy boy fenian blood etc its on youtube.
Ya singer yee.
Get the facts right the brits caused havoc in Eire and in a lot of other places would they wear.aeaster lily at easter i dont think so poppy my arse ask james mclean what happenef in derry
The British army have attacked every country in the world except for twenty two, some of these countries have been attacked multiple times, I for one can understand people not respecting the British army
Mcinness y is it ur minutes silence ya pie 🏴🇮🇪
Oh FFS,a points deduction.How about deducting points from Sevco for having a thick uneducated hateful fanbase
No he didnt…. Ffs
@@rosscrawford7870 aye, he did. He spoke about the reasons behind why Celtic fans have an issue with the minute’s silence, cute butchers apron and the army. So sit doon ffs
Pipe doon, he didn’t embarrass anyone. Jim white knows perfectly well why the celtic fans do this… that show needs someone to specifically tell him that and put him well and truly in his place! So he won’t bring it up AGAIN next year!
@@rosscrawford7870 Jim White skirts around the issue when he’s live on air. Aye, he knows alright but he just won’t talk about it or admit it. so aye, he got embarrassed. Off ye pop wee man
@@Born_Celtic up ur game in ur content, until then, il no be sittin doon… 🙄
Simon isn't getting the point. If it was the 2 world wars we were commemorating there would not be a problem. The point is that the British establishment have added to these events the conflicts of Iran,Iraq,the Falkland Islands and more importantly the recent Irish troubles where the British paras assassinated civilians in cold blood . Learn the history and get a grip.
A belter from the Dunfermline fan , a points deduction 😂😂😂.
What about the songs of hate sung at our grounds by the new Ibrox club .
Not a cheep from Jim White on this but that doesn't suit the narrative. HH.
A bit of respect wtf about aiden mca
And 1972 went 14 young civil rights protesters were slaughtered you can't ask ppl too respect it when they have different views on this
For a second, is Celtic a Scottish club?
Yes. With an Irish heritage
So the respect shown from the other side when the pope died doesn't matter then make your minds up eh
It's always celtic who are maligned but sevco sing about 169o and we irish fought in both world wars
Celtic should be deducted points, for some of their low-life fans have some respect (Not all Celtic fans)
@@TKILPATRICK100 😂😂😂 Cry more currant
Deplorables
Always the same old song with the buns all the time , only singing when your winning
Animals
@@johnallan4826 explain
Sadly they all died for bankers both sides are victims of these money people. However these people believed they were fighting a just war. Our future will have no wars 💕
No they died fighting fascism....
@ we still are Nazi World Order
Bankers please explain
Soldiers who fought in wars played for football clubs all over britain ya shower delinquents😂😂...PS
L.W.F WE WILL REMEMBER THEM 🇬🇧 🏴
Except this isn’t what this about is it ya mad zombie freak
Timskelper😂😂😂 When was the last time you skelped us dunderheid. Was it the 3each win.😂
Soldiers who fought in wars played for clubs all over Britain except the players who hid in the shipyards.
There, fixed it for you.
Why are Celtic football club even allowed to play in a Scottish league, they are so bigoted with their ideas and opinions they should play in Ireland if they hold these views!
The first remembrance was the year after the 2nd world war, know your history
@AndrewKennedy-h5y know your history is it? Except you obviously dont! first rememberance/armistice day was 1919.
And again if it was souly to commemorate ww1 and ww2 there would be no issue at all
Not much to be done
But make a broadcast to the fans from the Manager and the Celtic Board to respect the Silence
They need to support the majority of Celtic fans and not the minority
@@expathaggis why?
@
Because it effects badly the name of all supporters and Celtic football club,
Make a Silent Protest in a democracy but do not bring the others fans into disrepute or the club into disrepute
There are many other ways to demonstrate their feelings without forcing their way onto others and the club.
Its embarrasing for scottish football. Rest assured other scottish clubs do not tolerate it. The old firm are a different breed and taught to hate on violence from Ireland. Those celtic fans are British citizens weather they like or not. The old firm are not a true representation of our game
There is no O.F ,they were liquidated 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ aye ok