Celtic have supporter clubs everywhere. No matter what city your in, you can find a club showing the game. Man city doesn't have that kind of following
@@adeo767 African and Asian fans are fanbois. They could tell you very little about the history of the teams the follow. They are just commercial fans. Celtic fans are hardcore.
Whenever I travel, I only see, Man U, Liverpool, Celtic and Rangers bars in every bloody corner and every city in the world those 4 clubs are way different than any other club in UK. They are beyond just football teams its a whole other game when it comes to there support.
Go anywhere in America Canada Europe no question there is a rangers club ok shirt sales now countries are for English premiership but don't ever tell me rangers or even Celtic have more clubs over the world
City have 52.8 million followers on instagram, Celtic have less than a million!. Where are all those Celtic fans?? They don’t use social media in this day and age????
So we are going with instagram followers now 😂 I’ve been to many country’s but never saw a Man City pub, plenty of Celtic pubs, in fact there’s Celtic holidays destinations like Santa Ponsa.
@@greenockbhoy lol There are definitely City themed pubs the world over but that's a worse way to measure it than social media counts(both City and Liverpool have over 131 million followers across the four main social media platforms of Insta, FB, X, TikTok btw) because it generally only tells you who the owner supports. He'd have very few customers if it was exclusive, you can't have thought this out. Every argument these anti-city nonsense posts throw up is superficial, in the sense that they offer flimsy measures to gauge fan counts. Such as: First hand visual accounts of counting shirts on holidays, number of supporters clubs globally(half could be empty, it doesn't tell us much at all), now themed pubs... My word, talk about scraping the barrel lol. I can tell you this, many blues have counted more City shirts than United Liverpool shirts in recent years while on their jollies... but they don't get carried away because there's probably cognitive bias at play here because obviously there are more United and Liverpool fans still. Just something for you to think about. Or just carry on deluding yourself with these flimsy measure while ignoring all the accepted ones such as broadcast viewing numbers, shirt sales, social media accounts, number of unique visitors to the stadium per season perhaps?(haven't even looked but I'm guessing City would trounce Celtic). More recent figures for you from the M.E.N 99% of the City fanbase now resides outside of the UK, citizens membership subscriptions went up 108% last year on the year before....City have been the fastest growing club in world football for over a decade... But Celtic are still bigger... When Scottish football itself isn't relevant globally(harsh but true), how can you begin to believe that?
@@adeo767..I wonder where all those City fans were before the mega millionaires turned ..It’ll be the same for Newcastle in a few years. Celtic have a bigger history.
@@johntate5050 you need to do your homework on that one. O.M.G your talking about something you have absolutely zero understanding of. I suggest you do more research about what it is actually like to go to watch any game in a stadium in Australia you think it's expensive in in England or America.
@@alanfox691 Here come the usual Celtic excuses. I have a list of the usual ones here in my pocket: The ferries were cancelled Season ticket holders didn't show up There were floods It was a meaningless friendly The planes from Ireland were delayed It was a cold Wednesday evening It was an early kick-off and fans were still at work There was a bus strike Take your pick.
@@carl3681 yes bought and paid for by sky and Arabian money, only tit here is the deluded one I'm talking to. City were a 2nd tier side not so long ago or were you not born yet? I am only talking around 20 years ago but you have money and the best players best manager yet still haven't achieved any more in Europe than Celtic. Celtic did what they did using players born within walking distance of the stadium. When Pep leaves and you get hit big time for breaking ffp you'll be back to 2nd tier , or should be, also penthouse is for tourists.
The reason they would never invite Celtic to play in’t EPL. Within 5 seasons Celtic would be challenging the top 5 every season. Fanbase worldwide is massive. With EPL money to spend Celtic would be a behemoth 🍀
I love Celtic but you're wrong. Premier League players are multi millionaires nowadays..and why live in cold, rainy Scotland when u could live in a posh area of London or be payed gazillions by man city or Newcastle? It would take at least 7 years for the Old Firm to be cemented in the top 4 or 5 imo.
If Celtic's fanbase is massive Sky would already be pumping billions into the SPL because there'd be a massive financial return. Why are all these Celtic fans not putting their hands in their pockets now? Why are they all waiting to join the English league? The global fanbase is a myth. Celtic played Sydney in Sydney because Celtic thought they'd capitalise on the Ange popularity but the stadium was practically empty. No one was interested.
@@Bears84 Explain why I'm clueless then. Tell me why celtic's 'massive global fanbase' is of no interest to Sky. Tell me why City are in the top ten of most shirt sales globally but Celtic aren't. Fans buy shirts. Man City sell millions more than celtic. Think about that....MILLIONS.
Spot on. I don't think people down south realise how big the Old Firm is. Huge fan base. What I will say is, with my experience down south, I've seen a lot more Arsenal strips kicking about. Arsenal are a massive club, but Man Utd and Liverpool are in a different level.
We are talking about big clubs not dead clubs. So you can leave sevco out of the conversation. Celtic have won more trophies in one season than sevco have won in their entire history.
But where are they? A tiny league in a nowhere country. No Europeans are looking out for SPL results believe me. The PL is the biggest and best league in the world and City win it every year. Who the f*ck are Celtic? (I'm a Gooner by the way.)
@@lloydwaycott8178 who were Man City before oil barrons took over them good chance they would be a championship team that never won anything …..and even with no Europeans looking out for Celtic results they are still 1 of the most supported clubs in the world and ask ur self this what could Man City do with a budget the same size as celtics ? Survive league 2 maybe
@@Kuffdam-t3z Listening to the World Service yesterday I discovered that Aston Villa are massively supported all over the world. There are some villages in Africa where EVERY person supports Villa. Does that make them a bigger club than those more successful? Grow up. Again, the SPL is not a serious league. Being successful in it is not much different to being successful in the Moroccan or Tunisian league. Look, you've got a pretty little country, a nice little two-side league, stop being jealous of what other countries have. Also, the second team in Manchester, Man Utd, spend more money than City, I don't hear you slagging them off.
@@lloydwaycott8178 that’s because Man Utd have genuine history and are also a big club and the only reason your English league can spend as much as they do is your sky deal and oil Barron owners I get it Scotland has just over 6 million people and England has over 10 times more but my point is if any English club had to deal with the budget Celtic dose they would seriously struggle but saying that you do have the sky deal and oil Rich owners so tell me this how dose the most richest league in Europe not win the champions league every year if you are so grate ? Because great teams with real history like Madrid make you all look like league 2 players
@@Grant-gk5mwHaha dont make me laugh Celtic would get trounced in the premiership in England and other fans wouldn't appreciate them so called Celtic fans with there IRA and Palestinian flags flying about there heads.
Am a Celtic fan , we’re the only club in world football to sweep everything in 67 , we done a quadruple , we also scooped the British sports personality award in that year , this achievement will never ever be repeated, it’s now recognised by UEFA as the greatest achievement in club football, and Celtic stand alone in this exclusive club all on there own , our trophy haul is incredible, we’ve racked up 9 league championship in a row twice , 8 trebles , Celtic are one of only five clubs in the world to have won over 100 trophies.[3] The club has won the Scottish league championship 53 times, most recently in 2022-23, the Scottish Cup 41 times and the Scottish League Cup 21 times. The club's greatest season was 1966-67, when Celtic became the first British team to win the European Cup, also winning the Scottish league championship, the Scottish Cup, the League Cup and the Glasgow Cup. Celtic also reached the 1970 European Cup Final and the 2003 UEFA Cup Final, losing in both. Celtic have a long-standing fierce rivalry with Rangers and, together, the clubs are known as the Old Firm. Their matches against each other are regarded as among the world's biggest football derbies. The club's fanbase was estimated in 2003 as being around 9 million worldwide and there are more than 160 Celtic supporters clubs in over 20 countries. An estimated 80,000 fans travelled to Seville for the 2003 UEFA Cup Final, and their "extraordinarily loyal and sporting behaviour" in spite of defeat earned the club Fair Play awards from FIFA and UEFA, respectively., so the question is ‘ yes we’re a bigger club than Man City ,
@@joekavanagh7171 Fact Manchester City have buy far the oldest & most ageing fanbase of any ub in the Premier League. So there for if there are Glory Hunters in the City fanbase it's an minute fraction 0.2% something on that scale. I have been a Chelsea fan since 1996 when I started following Chelsea we had not one any major trophy for 30 years it was more about style of play & loyalisum.
@@arsenewenger30 Celtic are the only club that Guardiola has failed to beat in his managerial career. Played them twice in the Champions League and scraped a draw both times.
I'm from South Africa.... I'm seeing more and more kids and young adults wearing City jerseys. It's the older generation who still support Liv and ManU. This makes sense. The more they win and build a legacy, more people will support. It's not complicated
They don’t have a legacy tho. They’re the biggest cheats in the history of football. 115, everyone knows they’re achievements mean nothing and have zero integrity to them
you talking about older generation as if Liverpool are lingering mid table club for years. 3 UCl finals in the past few years,and yes I'm not talking about anscent history here,constantly in the fight to win the PL.they're genuinely the most watched club in the world now not in the 70s.
@greenockbhoy7347 I got slaughtered for calling that guy Buvey a Glory hunter seeing he's from Bristol and supports man City. One guy said it was sad that I thought football supporters were tribal.
What do you mean all of them are tiny. Utd city Liverpool etc are huge obviously but i know my club celtic are as popular all over the globe@johntate5050
@@allymcgrath6505 Google them. Every supporter club is made up of a few dozen ex pats. The total comes to thousands. Big clubs measure their fans in millions.
Truly big clubs, like United, Liverpool, Celtic etc have a huge following global based largely on generational support, son supports them because his dad does, like his dad before, and it continues from there, through good periods and bad. City are a big club, but until their recent success they didn't have much support outside of Manchester, and even there they are behind United. If City fall into a barren spell post Pep, like United have post Fergie, and like Liverpool did after the 80's, then we'll see how big a club City really are.
You do realise the Gallagher are Irish Blues like many - including me.. its not just Celtic Liverpool and Utd FFS Man City have loads of 2 / 3 gen Irish fans - mainly because the City is soo dominated by people with Irish roots
People get confused on better team or bigger financially than bigger club, Celtic and Rangers in their own right are much bigger clubs with a far bigger history and fanbase than most clubs in England, Man Utd and Liverpool are respected big clubs because they’ve done it themselves and made their own history and success before silly money came into play, The Old firm are massive institutions with a stature and support in their own right around the world.
Celtic and Rangers are not big globally. Go to any village in the most remote part of the world and I guarantee you someone will be wearing a Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Barcelona, Arsenal or Real Madrid jersey.
@@zack7438 they are though, they have supporters clubs everywhere, genuine real fans not just people plucking a premier league club from a hat and throwing a shirt on then probably changing their team after a few years lol, Go and look what’s associated and attached to Celtic and Rangers and how they were formed etc, both are massively supported by the communities and ideologies they represent. More neutrals watch the premier league etc 100% get that but real genuine supporters Celtic and Rangers are huge
@@zack7438Rangers have more supporters clubs worldwide than UTD and Liverpool combined. Even one on Antartica ffs… and Celtic have more than Rangers! Ffs, Rangers gave Chelsea their first kits, saved Arsenal from certain extinction, Aston Villa were modelled on Rangers Football Club, a secretary at Rangers invented the Champions League, etc..etc..etc. There are levels to this that most simply cannot ever reach.
Celtic have 9 million actual real fans worldwide. From the Scottish and Irish diaspora. Not talking about fans who wore a shirt once in sub saharan Africa or far flung place in the far east.
@@philbarton2832 Yes because they will always be the only club for City supporters ..regardless of what division. Bit like Oldham dropping out of the league = same fans..big club to them - all this bs that 'big clubs' have a monopoly on 'fans' people are on crack here
If celtic played in epl, they would be one of biggest teams in the world, with the irish connection Man utd, and liverpool get alot of there fan base from irish roots If celtic were in epl, they would have just as many fans as anyone, and they would get world exposure that they cannot get now. Celtic could fill up there massive stadium every week if they were playing english teams. Because celtic is based on irish catholic, it would have a massive fan base if it was playing in epl. I understand why scots do not want that, as celtic and rangers are the only ones protecting there leagues. But celtic miss out on fortunes not playing massive teams, and celtic would have one of worlds biggest fan bases if they were in epl, with there irish links to that team. Celtic is way bigger then man city, as a potential business model
Celtic fans much more rabid and passionate and lifelong. City fans cannot compare to them. City is unquestionably the bigger club globally etc. No casual fan knows a thing about Celtic and it’s amazing history. Only the diehards.
You're correct about that. Globally you'll see a lot more City shirts; but if City and Celtic or even Rangers were in a final together they would both outnumber City fans by a massive margin.
Passionate and lifelong - City were setting record attendances during their dark days and getting larger crowds than most of the Premier League. City also have the highest percentage of fans who have been going 25 years+ in the Premier League. Celtic are big due to sectarianism.
Not even a comparison. Celtic rangers man u and Liverpool are the biggest clubs in the world. History and their fan base says it all. I'd love for celtic and rangers to be in the Premier league. With their already huge world wide fan base and loyal fans you'd have another 2 mixing it up within a few seasons.
As a city fan, all ive ever heard from rival fans is 'city will never be a big club until they win the champions league' now we have and surprise surprise the goalposts have moved 🤣
Why were city not this big successful team years ago ? Why did their success only come recently when rich Arabs bought the club and invested billions ? City’s recent success has been bought by rich people’s money whereas in comparison Liverpool man united rangers and Celtic have had success for a long time bought by their own fans money - that’s the difference - that’s why in football the fans say city are a plastic club with fake success - it’s all been bought by rich Arabs money - back in the day city should have been as successful as man united before big money came into football and Chelsea were the same under abramovich A big club is one that is successful because of its fan base in its own city not plastic fake foreign fans who are just glory hunters or rich investors
Andy is right, Celtic ain't the only ones that's bigger than the 115. Villa, Everton, Newcastle, Rangers, Forest are bigger clubs than the plastic club with no history.
115 unproven charges and it’s funny you should mention Forest… a club who have spent nowhere near the same time in the top flight as City, even before 2008 City had won more and Forest have never had a single season in their history where they’ve got bigger gates than City. Guarantee you’re a United fan, literally the most plastic fanbase in England. City got bigger crowds than most of the Premier League when the club was in League One.
@@tomben6180 All that cope and Forest is still a big club than the 115. Oh don't you worry your little sky blue socks about it, the FA will sweep your cheat charges under the rug next year and clear your little tinpot club.
@@tomben6180 people forget football has been around for 150 years. City have had great success recently but they were always a good club before. I support Sunderland, we have 6 league titles and were one of the most dominant english clubs in the first 50 years of the league. we had more titles than city and chelsea until recently (same as chelsea now). City are a big club and they have good fans as well, i dont understand bashing them at all.
@@peterreid People are incredibly bitter about watching another team dominate football, my hatred for Liverpool went through the roof in the 2019/2020 season for the same reason. United and Liverpool fans hate the fact a club they perceive as inferior to them is hammering their clubs in success at the moment, that’s why. There’s also a lot of ignorant people out there who think football started with their upbringing and most people on the internet don’t remember the 60s and 70s when City won 6 major trophies and were competing right at the top. If Sunderland started taking league titles off United or Liverpool they’d throw the same accusations at you, they’d pretend those league titles never existed and they’d ignore the fact Sunderland get 40k+ fans in the lower leagues. Not that you’ll ever be allowed to compete, they changed the rules to try and stop City but were too late and now it’s stopping clubs with ambition from competing, just look at Newcastle.
Kids in Africa wearing old Liverpool, ManU, or Arsenal shirts from the 90’s is not necessarily because they support those teams sometimes it just used clothing they bought. I see kids in Africa wearing NFL or NBA jerseys all the time and kids don’t know anything about American football
Wish more young African kids found the hoops. When those colours catch you at a young age you wear them for life man. But i guess there would be no point as the famous mighty glasgow Celtic would never be broadcast in Africa anyway, its a shame
Like Barcelona and Athletic Bilbao, Celtic are a true football giant that trancends culture and politics. Hail Hail Celtic, Visca Barca, Visca Catalunya. Gora Euskadi. Free Palestine
@@rosssloman1309 Kids will always support the team that wins trophies .... no matter who their parents support! And most Asian football fans are exactly the same!
Would be great if people just supported their local team instead of supporting clubs that win all the time who are in different city’s countries and even continents. Even Goldstein a Londoner who supports Man Utd, I mean there is plenty of London clubs to choose from
@@Ayah_Mia How is it glory hunting if they are kids? Whatever club you support is also glory hunting because you weren't alive when those clubs were founded.
@@peterkirk123 ...which would have made Bolton a global brand and a team worth supporting for people all around the world, in turn turning them into a bigger club.
Celtic are massive, they have a waiting list of 38.000 for a season ticket, put Celtic in the EPL with all the riches that go with it and it would be the biggest club in the world bar none.
@gumbo7215 Don't need to prove nothing all in the history of our great club and all done not relying on media money or dodgy Arab money, give us a craic at the EPL and all the riches that go with it and Celtic would blow every English club away.
Manchester City are a richer club than Celtic. Celtic are a bigger club than Manchester City. Many people don’t know the difference. Put it this way, if Celtic were administrated down to the bottom tier of Scottish football in League Two and had to go and play at a local park, Celtic would still have tens of thousands fans turning up to their games. If Manchester City lost their dirty oil billions and got relegated to the bottom tier of English football they would have absolutely no fans. THAT is difference between a BIG club and a RICH club.
A big club in Scotland. For the rest of us, Celtic are as relevant as Red Star Belgrade or Rosenborg. Most people outside Scotland don’t care about the Scottish league.
As a Celtic season ticket holder of 20 years, both Celtic and Rangers are without doubt the two biggest clubs in UK as per global appeal and the passion of their supporters, real fans, not the cucumber sandwich type.
African and Asian fans of English clubs are fickle and would all switch to local clubs if the commercial aspect of Sky-driven EPL hype stops or is rivalled. What the hell has Chelsea etc got to do with Africa or India?
Celtic fan here. City are a wonderful team. One of the best ever. They have wonderful players, a wonderful manager and they play wonderful football. But. They’ll never have the soul of a Celtic, a Man United or even an Everton. They’re a rich man’s play thing who could have been any one of about 20 other clubs.
And there is the problem. People don't look beyond the past few years when talking about clubs like City. Man Utd were bang average before the Premier League.
City’s success is fleeting. They won’t always have the financial muscle they do now, one day whether it’s 10 years or even 100, the financial backing won’t last forever. Look at Chelsea just now. No one thought their dominance would evaporate the way it has in recent years. A big club is defined by more than just present success, there’s more to it than that, you need to look at the bigger picture. Yes, Celtic don’t play in a great league but their fanbase and following is undeniable and placed within a superior structure, they would eventually compete with the elite because of that.
You say Celtic's fanbase in undeniable and they will eventually compete with the elite. What are they waiting for? Surely if the global fanbase exists, Sky would be pumping billions into the SPL because a huge profit is guaranteed. So what's the problem?
Happy with my great memories of our great Man city teams of the 70's under Tony 'skip' Book and tbf Howard Kendall's team of mainly ex Evertonians and Quinnie he brought over. Will be a fan for another 30 years i hope lol
Andy Knows, and so do most people down south. Truth be told if Celtic had the tv money the teams down there get they'd be storming it ever other season. Facts.
In 1968 Man Utd Became The second team In Britain 🇬🇧 To win the Champions league The European cup CELTIC FROM GLASGOW THE FIRST IN THE EMPIRE TO WIN IT 1967 In Lisbon The giants Celtic Ran over the top of Inter Milan It could have been 7-1 To Celtic And every player in Celtic team Was a local lad Who lived With 30 mile radius of Celtic park The stadium A magnificent Never been done since Probably never will again Celtic Have support in every Country in the world 🌎
Aging well, 4-3 Celitic. Great performance. If the vast amount of english punters feel the SPFL is a farmers leauge then what is the EPL following that result.
You are either a young man in your 20s and don’t understand or just haven’t a clue, It’s not just in Scotland, Celtic we’re formed by Irish Catholics as a charity to feed the poor Irish immigrants, so they are a Hub all over the world for the Irish, They are absolutely huge, Both them and Rangers are massively supported by the two communities and ideologies they represent, they aren’t just football clubs they are institutions.
I’m from Johannesburg South Africa 🇿🇦, I’ve been a Manchester United supporter for the last 25 years, the tide is slowly turning where now you see families doing grocery shopping together wearing the blue of Manchester City, that’s something you’d never see 15 years ago.
It's all inflated. Take away their cash, & they wouldn't have any achievements. Celtic, however, literally won the champions league, with a team of local boys. Did city even have 1 local lad during their "achievements" ?? 😂
IMO City's legacy will always have a dent in it because of the charges linked to them regardless of whether they beat the charges or not. Also their lack of urgency to deal with the charges and put it behind them is also not helping their cause. Again this is merely my opinion.
Nobody outside Britain rates Celtic like that. They are not a global club. That's what makes you big. You could say that Celtic have deeper roots in the game, but City are a bigger club.
You think Australians, Americans, Irish people dont have hardcore celtic fans? Plus the millions of Irish descendants across the globe who can find a deep connection with celtic due to the many factors that make Celtic appealing to them personally. You are so wrong
@@raijinenel3116 Those days Villa could sign anybody. Pundits Cascarino, Bent, Merson, Keone,warnock for example were all ex Villa players and the list goes on. Only big clubs win European Cups/Champions leagues and Villa were the 4th English club (behind Man U, Liverpool and Forest) to do it
As someone,,who has held season ticks in marseile,,,sporting,,,and dortmund,,,,,CELTIC are huge,,,,just are,,,bet you have never even seen your team,,,,except on the bed spread your mummy bought you. fud.
@james6901 Don't confuse having a large fan base in Scotland and Ireland with actually being "huge". In terms of Champions League football or even Europa Leauge football they are a lower level non-entity.
@@RkH1st I have no dog in the fight. City at present is the best in the land without doubt on the pitch, you can harp back but at present nothing is touching them. Until or if they ever get sanctioned and relegated.
@@colinfarrelly2513 Being the best on the pitch does not make you a big club buddy, the revenue that say city and united can pull is vastly different, in fact, its huge.
Hearts fan here, Celtic are by far a bigger club than Man City! I base being a big club on fan base and world audience, which Celtic have a much bigger audience, man city only really became famous around 2010, before that people only knew about one team in Manchester apart from those living in the U.K.
Spurs fan since the 70s,I’d argue Celtic and Rangers have a bigger fan base than most of the premier league clubs except for maybe United and Liverpool,and their could be an argument Celtic are bigger than Liverpool.COYS.
As much as you would probably hate to admit it but you need to add Arsenal in there, the three big traditional prem clubs are Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal. Arsenal have loads of fans in the South, certain demographics all over and if we're talking overseas fans, they have over half of Africa. Then quite a way you got the next bank which includes yourselfs towards the top, maybe Newcastle, Everton and Villa fading out, Leeds gone, Man City and Chelsea returning. I think the two mentioned would fall just below the top three, just above the 2nd group. We had a bad 100 years start of small restricted ground and shite team, but the Hammers are slowly coming round to the 2nd group, just need to have a decade of success behind us and we'll be laughing (we can dream).
Did you see celtic play Sydney in Sydney? the stadium was empty? Did you also see Liverpool play melbourne in melbourne? The 100k stadium was packed and everyone was wearing red.
Celtic FC are bigger than Manchester City The Mancunians drew with us 3-3 away and drew 1-1 at home 😂 Money might be with them but is fans - regardless of colour or creed or background or faith - are loyal to the core. Win, lose or draw … we still the same: boisterous and respectful 💯 CELTIC! CELTIC! COYBIG! 💚
What is the obsession with how "big" a club is? If you're not winning in the present and all you have is your past, you're nothing more than a has-been trying to make your irrelevant club relevant in the present. Rather pathetic and sad when you think about it.
The whole point of winning in the now is to have something to look at in the past. They're two sides of the same coin. Despite what you think, history is important.
@@davidbeeson9408 And what does that mean for the present if that’s all you have? Nothing. Wow MU won a lot in the past and they’re an f’ing joke now but at least they won a lot 15yrs ago. Seriously? Who cares and it means nothing in the present. If you’re winning now and won a lot in the past, different story
Silly argument always bringing celtic into nonsense like this . Right now city is most successful on the pitch in england . Folk who support man u and Liverpool always bring this up because they cant handle not being as good as city . Celtic is a massive club no money in england will ever change that HAIL HAIL 🍀
Firstly south of the border have no idea or understanding of Celtic F.C. they are rather delusional in thinking that only england have the best clubs , support etc but most englishmen only think that until they pull on the jersey on derby day in glasgow .......then after those 90mins they're views change and there are plenty englishmen , Welsh and Irish would testify to that ........there are world class players over decades have said they have travelled the world but never experienced anything like a capacity paradise and although we havent had alot of luck in European ties , we have claimed big scalps along the way and fear none at home or away , if scottish game or clubs are so poor then why are english clubs continuously sniffing around our players ? Alan Thompson , Chris Sutton , John Hartson , Fraser Forster , Joe Hart to name a few and those guy's played for the Jersey because they realised the magnitude of Celtic and our style of physically challenging game .........Celtic football club are a huge club and their following is well in excess of 14 million fans worldwide, how many english clubs can say that ? Certain english clubs have international playboy Gazillionaires splashing cash to have a play thing in sport so without the big bucks$$$ your Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea to name a few would be in the championship , our managers are constantly badgered also Ange Postecoglou , Martin O'Neill so maybe engage the brain before the gub let's loose 😊
X10 bigger easy,this is a club with millions of supporters,every town ,village and city around the UK have supporters clubs,thousands in Australia, probably millions in USA etc. They may have wealth,this is a club famous and huge since 1888 not just the past few seasons. Most city fans are bandwagon jumpers,once they stop winning they will vanish...
They get 60,000 at home......and that's without awe the tourists visiting city's games....Celtic took 80,000 to Seville for the euro final..... Not one other club in the UK could get anywhere near that...
Could you also make one of all the tourists visiting man city's ground,the large gaps in the city home end. Thanks. P,s Celtic have been a huge club for well over 100 years,can city say the same?
Your success has made you more successful, glory hunter’s always support teams like city. My dad is an old fan and didn’t even know who they were until 2013. Orlando pirates are a bigger club than city.
I get where Andy is coming from but to say manc city are only successful because of their money is laughable people could say the same about the old firm we have riches the rest of the SPL could only dream of and could be argued that’s why they have amassed 118 trophies each
You can very easily define which clubs are bigger than other. You have to actually put some time and anlytics and data behind but it can be done. You use a weighted matrix with a range of categories and scoring against each, define which are the most important and least important factors, use some common sense to set a baseline and then you can make tweaks but you'll actually have a tool that works. Me and some friends did this years back rather than being bored at work, I've made a start at recreating it but it takes time and I have a day job. If someone who actually works in football wanted to do this it is very doable but sports journalist would rather debate over nothing than actual do the work. Using a single definition to define what is a big club or which is bigger than another makes no sense as shown here. If Man City win 20 Champions Leagues, make more money than any other club in the world, any other kind of metric but if you go to South Africa and don't see random people wearing a Man City shirt makes them a small club? No substance behind that. History, recent history, trophys, potential, revenue, tv viewers, season ticket holders, stadium capacity, cultural impact, general audience recognition, etc etc. ALL of these things and more determine what makes the club a certain size, it never boils down to 1 or 2 things.
Celtic in Seville 100,000 strong respect all the English clubs however Celtic have a Soul and Spirit that is unsurpassed if you don’t believe me ask Messi 🍀⚡️❤️🌏🌟
@@Rocky-w5r Paul, Manchester City FC have ALWAYS been a very well supported club in the UK, bigger than say Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Nottingham Forest, etc...in terms of average attendances, and have won more points, cups, titles etc than most clubs in the professional divisions
Celtic & Rangers are global institutions born from a centuries old ideologies that have competed beside each other. They are only limited by their league. Man U, Liverpool, barce, Real, Munich & dortmund and the Milan clubs, global giants. The rest the now challenge that do so through dirty money. They are great clubs but will never be global clubs. They might be for fan boys in Africa & Asia who switch with the seasons, but for those who understand and teach their kids the truth, that will always be the truth. Celtic & Rangers are dying though as commercialism and the fanboys take over. The Germans and Scottish have it right, England has sold its unique footballing institution for dirty money.
Simon the Celtic fan is talking total rubbish. Every non-local player comes for the money, it’s not limited to Citeh. Rooney is a Scouser, a fan of Everton but went to play for Man United, he must be a mercenary then.
Wasn't just because of money though. United have a long succesful history of multiple league titles and European trophy wins. City had none of that. Just money.
@@SteveAustin-zv1nn It was mainly about money, that's why Antony joined United from Ajax even though Ajax have won more European Cups, because United pay more.
This big club argument is all about hating and envy. Fans of these so-called big clubs know their team can’t compete with city on the field so their only argument is that they’re “bigger club”. City has turned the so-called toughest league in the world to a farmer’s league. On the verge of winning 4 league titles in a row and will be favorite next season again.
Not a chance. Man city already have more global appeal than Celtic. What is Andy on about? If this question was asked 20 years ago, ok, sure. But now??? What is he on about lmao.
@@paulmooney-nl1zt that's not really true though, is it? Not an actual measurable fact. What city have done in the last decade alone ensures they'll have more new followers and fans for years to come. This is how big clubs became big clubs in the first place. And with Celtic and Scottish football being practically irrelevant nowadays, I don't see how they could possibly argue about this. Can you call yourself a big club when you don't win a CL game in 6 years? Celtic are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned, how could they possibly be considered a bigger club than a team that just won the treble? Historically, there's an argument sure. But the last decade is what matters, and city have grown exponentially and are arguably the best club side in the world right now. There won't be a drop off like Celtic had either. Celtic are just a better supported Sunderland lol.
@@Glen-z7j no you won't. You're acting like this is truly the case but it really isn't. What we see is almost entirely a mix of the top prem sides and teams like Madrid, Barca, psg, Milan, etc. Celtic would probably be far down on that list, not that there is actually a list to measure by.
@@IamTheStormThatIsApproaching1 what’s not true? That I’ve seen Celtic jerseys everywhere I’ve been and no city jerseys? No, that’s very definitely true.
I think theres a difference between a big club and a current successful club, a big club has heritage, history, an array of legendary players and a global reach, City’s success is too recent for them to be considered up there with Man utd, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich. But like Andy said it doesn’t really matter because the here and now is whats important to fans, and right now city might not be the biggest but they are the best.
So when City were winning trophies in the 60s and 70s, had full internationals in the side, were playing in front of the 3rd biggest crowds in the country, does that not count as history or “heritage”? What about when City set the attendance record for a game in England outside of Wembley? Still stands at 84,500?
the appeal of the premiership teams is due mainly to the world wide saturation of their matches and the money that has been pumped into it .prior to that a lot of these clubs were not anythin special
Celtic are worth £450m, City are worth £4b. Celtic are 48th on the value list, City are 4th, the gap is enormous. Celtic average attendance is 7’000 below City’s. There is no comparison apart from Irish fans of course.
who cares? As a boro fan I am pleased to watch the entertaining football Citeh produce. Their fans that stood with them in div 1 are now living the dream.
I'm a Rangers supporter, I can say Celtic are easily the bigger club.
I'm a Celtic fan and the same applies for Rangers.
I'm a reality fan.....and you're both clowns 😁
Rangers fan also, both clubs are monumentaly bigger than city
Fair play to the rangers fan
@@phildemetriou440
I’m a human being and I see humanity is bigger than both 😂
Celtic have supporter clubs everywhere. No matter what city your in, you can find a club showing the game. Man city doesn't have that kind of following
In Africa noone watches celtic games💯
@@PjMasks-qu6bb Plenty of Celtic supporters in South Africa and West Africa; Ghana, Liberia, Mali, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, for example.
No one watches Celtic in Africa or Asia, absolutely no one! While plenty watches Man City in Africa and Asia…
@@PjMasks-qu6bb Yes, and they are all joke fans.
@@adeo767 African and Asian fans are fanbois. They could tell you very little about the history of the teams the follow. They are just commercial fans. Celtic fans are hardcore.
Whenever I travel, I only see, Man U, Liverpool, Celtic and Rangers bars in every bloody corner and every city in the world those 4 clubs are way different than any other club in UK. They are beyond just football teams its a whole other game when it comes to there support.
Well I'm well travelled too, for the past 30 years, and i've NEVER seen ANY of the bars you mention!
Go anywhere in America Canada Europe no question there is a rangers club ok shirt sales now countries are for English premiership but don't ever tell me rangers or even Celtic have more clubs over the world
@kehua....seen many rangers and celtic pubs everywhere but never seen a utd or liverpool pub other than at their grounds!
@@barryh.4220 shut up Barry and don't lie
@@barryh.4220You need to go to Specsavers
From a rangers fan celtic are a bigger club than city
City have 52.8 million followers on instagram, Celtic have less than a million!. Where are all those Celtic fans?? They don’t use social media in this day and age????
So we are going with instagram followers now 😂 I’ve been to many country’s but never saw a Man City pub, plenty of Celtic pubs, in fact there’s Celtic holidays destinations like Santa Ponsa.
@@greenockbhoy lol There are definitely City themed pubs the world over but that's a worse way to measure it than social media counts(both City and Liverpool have over 131 million followers across the four main social media platforms of Insta, FB, X, TikTok btw) because it generally only tells you who the owner supports. He'd have very few customers if it was exclusive, you can't have thought this out. Every argument these anti-city nonsense posts throw up is superficial, in the sense that they offer flimsy measures to gauge fan counts. Such as: First hand visual accounts of counting shirts on holidays, number of supporters clubs globally(half could be empty, it doesn't tell us much at all), now themed pubs... My word, talk about scraping the barrel lol. I can tell you this, many blues have counted more City shirts than United Liverpool shirts in recent years while on their jollies... but they don't get carried away because there's probably cognitive bias at play here because obviously there are more United and Liverpool fans still. Just something for you to think about. Or just carry on deluding yourself with these flimsy measure while ignoring all the accepted ones such as broadcast viewing numbers, shirt sales, social media accounts, number of unique visitors to the stadium per season perhaps?(haven't even looked but I'm guessing City would trounce Celtic). More recent figures for you from the M.E.N 99% of the City fanbase now resides outside of the UK, citizens membership subscriptions went up 108% last year on the year before....City have been the fastest growing club in world football for over a decade... But Celtic are still bigger... When Scottish football itself isn't relevant globally(harsh but true), how can you begin to believe that?
@@adeo767..I wonder where all those City fans were before the mega millionaires turned ..It’ll be the same for Newcastle in a few years. Celtic have a bigger history.
@@JDH1888so what's your point why are Celtic obsessed with being bigger than everyone else
Celtic are definitely a bigger club than city
Agreed
Ireland comes to mind. Do you reckon Haaland would have signed for Celtic 😂😂😂
Well, he is a Celt isn't he?
Maybe half a century ago but not now. City dwarf celtic.
In Scotland :)
Every year thousands of Celtic fans take over Las Vegas for a weekend with the NAFCSC convention. You dont see that for many other clubs worldwide.
When celtic played sydney in sydney the stadium was empty.
@@johntate5050
you need to do your homework on that one.
O.M.G your talking about something you have absolutely zero understanding of.
I suggest you do more research about what it is actually like to go to watch any game in a
stadium in Australia
you think it's expensive in
in England or America.
@@alanfox691 Here come the usual Celtic excuses. I have a list of the usual ones here in my pocket:
The ferries were cancelled
Season ticket holders didn't show up
There were floods
It was a meaningless friendly
The planes from Ireland were delayed
It was a cold Wednesday evening
It was an early kick-off and fans were still at work
There was a bus strike
Take your pick.
I was there, it was 90% full
City are the best team not the biggest club
Neither
@@Lestheredwell they are the best team
@@environm3ntalist549 best manager but i think liverpool have a better team on paper
@@imobjectivelybalancedonTHEballno
City can't even fill their stadium for the Champions League.
Celtic are on another level to city and always will be .
Correct.......you are on the first floor and man city is at the top in the penthouse.....you TiT.
@@carl3681 Yo yo man city bouncing between relegation and promotion for years.
@@carl3681 yes bought and paid for by sky and Arabian money, only tit here is the deluded one I'm talking to.
City were a 2nd tier side not so long ago or were you not born yet? I am only talking around 20 years ago but you have money and the best players best manager yet still haven't achieved any more in Europe than Celtic.
Celtic did what they did using players born within walking distance of the stadium.
When Pep leaves and you get hit big time for breaking ffp you'll be back to 2nd tier , or should be, also penthouse is for tourists.
Celtic has more supporters in England than Man City
Man U and Liverpool have more supporters in Scotland than Celtic but you lot think yous are one of the biggest clubs in the world lol
@@labos7250Fanny
@@Emeraldabroad2771 the response of someone that knows it’s true
@@labos7250thats wrong haha
@@labos7250Absoulte bull 💩
The reason they would never invite Celtic to play in’t EPL. Within 5 seasons Celtic would be challenging the top 5 every season. Fanbase worldwide is massive. With EPL money to spend Celtic would be a behemoth 🍀
Rangers too?
I love Celtic but you're wrong. Premier League players are multi millionaires nowadays..and why live in cold, rainy Scotland when u could live in a posh area of London or be payed gazillions by man city or Newcastle?
It would take at least 7 years for the Old Firm to be cemented in the top 4 or 5 imo.
If Celtic's fanbase is massive Sky would already be pumping billions into the SPL because there'd be a massive financial return. Why are all these Celtic fans not putting their hands in their pockets now? Why are they all waiting to join the English league? The global fanbase is a myth. Celtic played Sydney in Sydney because Celtic thought they'd capitalise on the Ange popularity but the stadium was practically empty. No one was interested.
@@johntate5050 You are absolutely clueless.
@@Bears84 Explain why I'm clueless then. Tell me why celtic's 'massive global fanbase' is of no interest to Sky. Tell me why City are in the top ten of most shirt sales globally but Celtic aren't. Fans buy shirts. Man City sell millions more than celtic. Think about that....MILLIONS.
Man Utd, Liverpool, Rangers, Celtic
4 biggest clubs in the UK
Exactly right.
Spot on. I don't think people down south realise how big the Old Firm is. Huge fan base.
What I will say is, with my experience down south, I've seen a lot more Arsenal strips kicking about. Arsenal are a massive club, but Man Utd and Liverpool are in a different level.
Arsenal, even Spurs have a bigger fan base abroad than the Scotch teams though.
@@raijinenel3116no they dont. Not even close.
We are talking about big clubs not dead clubs. So you can leave sevco out of the conversation. Celtic have won more trophies in one season than sevco have won in their entire history.
Celtic won the champions league with a team of local lads. The first british club to win the trophy.
🥰
Celtic are not British
@@Busybee65Proud as fook of our Irish background. So are Liverpool not British either?
Liverpool are English Celtic are Palestinians and Celtic have never won the champions league ya pure dafty.
@@colinwilliams4338 listen boy, Celtic won the European Cup before any English team ya wee beast
Celtic are a bigger club because they have got where they are organically not from billions from oil barons with over night success
love you...sir
But where are they? A tiny league in a nowhere country. No Europeans are looking out for SPL results believe me. The PL is the biggest and best league in the world and City win it every year. Who the f*ck are Celtic? (I'm a Gooner by the way.)
@@lloydwaycott8178 who were Man City before oil barrons took over them good chance they would be a championship team that never won anything …..and even with no Europeans looking out for Celtic results they are still 1 of the most supported clubs in the world and ask ur self this what could Man City do with a budget the same size as celtics ? Survive league 2 maybe
@@Kuffdam-t3z Listening to the World Service yesterday I discovered that Aston Villa are massively supported all over the world. There are some villages in Africa where EVERY person supports Villa. Does that make them a bigger club than those more successful? Grow up. Again, the SPL is not a serious league. Being successful in it is not much different to being successful in the Moroccan or Tunisian league. Look, you've got a pretty little country, a nice little two-side league, stop being jealous of what other countries have. Also, the second team in Manchester, Man Utd, spend more money than City, I don't hear you slagging them off.
@@lloydwaycott8178 that’s because Man Utd have genuine history and are also a big club and the only reason your English league can spend as much as they do is your sky deal and oil Barron owners I get it Scotland has just over 6 million people and England has over 10 times more but my point is if any English club had to deal with the budget Celtic dose they would seriously struggle but saying that you do have the sky deal and oil Rich owners so tell me this how dose the most richest league in Europe not win the champions league every year if you are so grate ? Because great teams with real history like Madrid make you all look like league 2 players
He’s right Celtic are well bigger than City can ever be 🍀
celtic have been shrinking since the 1970s
What a ridiculous statement city are tiny compared to celtic and rangers give me peace
Deluded. City are a mega club. celtic and Rangers are unknown beyond the British isles.
@@johntate5050 The proof of the pudding is in the champions league.
Exactly.
@@johntate5050Celtic and rangers are global ta plum 🍀🇮🇪
@@GreenockRebel67 If they're global, why are their global tv subscriptions massive?
Man u, Liverpool, then Celtic. If Celtic had the exposure and money from playing in the tourist league, then they would dwarf them all.
Totally agree Lucy🙂👏👏👏
No they wouldn't, Man Utd and Real Madrid are and always be the biggest clubs in the world.
@@declanshanahan3888nah you don't get the papes mate. If Celtic were in the Prem they would end up the biggest team on the planet..... Makes me sick.
Celtic be lucky to be in league 1 with the squad they have fan base doesn't win games
@@Grant-gk5mwHaha dont make me laugh Celtic would get trounced in the premiership in England and other fans wouldn't appreciate them so called Celtic fans with there IRA and Palestinian flags flying about there heads.
Am a Celtic fan , we’re the only club in world football to sweep everything in 67 , we done a quadruple , we also scooped the British sports personality award in that year , this achievement will never ever be repeated, it’s now recognised by UEFA as the greatest achievement in club football, and Celtic stand alone in this exclusive club all on there own , our trophy haul is incredible, we’ve racked up 9 league championship in a row twice , 8 trebles , Celtic are one of only five clubs in the world to have won over 100 trophies.[3] The club has won the Scottish league championship 53 times, most recently in 2022-23, the Scottish Cup 41 times and the Scottish League Cup 21 times. The club's greatest season was 1966-67, when Celtic became the first British team to win the European Cup, also winning the Scottish league championship, the Scottish Cup, the League Cup and the Glasgow Cup. Celtic also reached the 1970 European Cup Final and the 2003 UEFA Cup Final, losing in both.
Celtic have a long-standing fierce rivalry with Rangers and, together, the clubs are known as the Old Firm. Their matches against each other are regarded as among the world's biggest football derbies. The club's fanbase was estimated in 2003 as being around 9 million worldwide and there are more than 160 Celtic supporters clubs in over 20 countries. An estimated 80,000 fans travelled to Seville for the 2003 UEFA Cup Final, and their "extraordinarily loyal and sporting behaviour" in spite of defeat earned the club Fair Play awards from FIFA and UEFA, respectively., so the question is ‘ yes we’re a bigger club than Man City ,
Rangers died in 2012.
@@rabmcnair4488 I know they reformed and had to start at the very beginning in the third division, as sevco !!
U took 80.000 fans to seville so what Glasgow rangers took 120,000 fans down to Manchester in 2008.
@@colinwilliams4338 easier to get to manchester, besides most of them were chelsea fans.... it woz them that wrecked the joint 😉
@@megalodon6108Check your profile pic ya weapon. 😂
As a South African, you are correct Mr Townsend. Liverpool and Manchester United are by far the most supported.
Facts. Represent🇿🇦.
Because they 2 most successful clubs so glory supporters jump on the band wagon not rocket science 🚀😂
@@kooler8586 are you saying that Manchester City supporters are not glory hunters?
Not in South America they aren't .... everywhere I visited there it was City this, City that .... never saw any United or Liverpool fans anywhere.
@@joekavanagh7171
Fact Manchester City have buy far the oldest & most ageing fanbase of any ub in the Premier League.
So there for if there are
Glory Hunters in
the City fanbase it's an minute fraction 0.2% something on that scale.
I have been a Chelsea fan since 1996 when I started following Chelsea we had not one any major trophy for 30 years it was more about style of play
& loyalisum.
Celtic are the only club in the world supported by a nation- Republic of Ireland and 1/4 of another nation - Scotland!
I dont recognise
that as a country in the sameway I dont recognise Aberdeen as part of Scotland.
😂😂 even though most of them are Liverpool and man u supporters. I met a girl from Dublin that didn't know celtic existed
Not true,I'm Irish and don't support Celtic.
I'll have to correct you here!! Barcelona are supported by Catalonia!!
@@robinmcarthur3287 Catalonia isn't a nation!
Of course Celtic are bigger this isn't even a debate
But if they played, it would be like a training session for City.
@@arsenewenger30 man city have like a 100x bigger budget.of course they are going to beat us
@@VivaOogway yes, all from unearned income
@@arsenewenger30 Celtic are the only club that Guardiola has failed to beat in his managerial career. Played them twice in the Champions League and scraped a draw both times.
@@joekavanagh7171 How do you know it's "unearned income"?
I'm from South Africa.... I'm seeing more and more kids and young adults wearing City jerseys.
It's the older generation who still support Liv and ManU.
This makes sense.
The more they win and build a legacy, more people will support.
It's not complicated
They don’t have a legacy tho. They’re the biggest cheats in the history of football. 115, everyone knows they’re achievements mean nothing and have zero integrity to them
you talking about older generation as if Liverpool are lingering mid table club for years.
3 UCl finals in the past few years,and yes I'm not talking about anscent history here,constantly
in the fight to win the PL.they're genuinely the most watched club in the world now not in the 70s.
It's facts bro man city are very famous now. Touch grass u will see especially the young people@@kriskerpuchki1311
Glory hunters then🤔
@greenockbhoy7347 I got slaughtered for calling that guy Buvey a Glory hunter seeing he's from Bristol and supports man City. One guy said it was sad that I thought football supporters were tribal.
Being richer doesn't make you bigger. Celtic have supporter clubs all over the globe
And all of them are tiny
What do you mean all of them are tiny. Utd city Liverpool etc are huge obviously but i know my club celtic are as popular all over the globe@johntate5050
Celtic have over 800 supporters clubs in over 60 countries and grows with every passing season.
@@allymcgrath6505 Google them. Every supporter club is made up of a few dozen ex pats. The total comes to thousands. Big clubs measure their fans in millions.
@@johntate5050Like your brain
CELTIC BY A COUNTRY MILE ☘️☘️☘️ I WAS IM FLORIDA AND THE CELTIC SUPPORT AMAZED ME....
Truly big clubs, like United, Liverpool, Celtic etc have a huge following global based largely on generational support, son supports them because his dad does, like his dad before, and it continues from there, through good periods and bad.
City are a big club, but until their recent success they didn't have much support outside of Manchester, and even there they are behind United.
If City fall into a barren spell post Pep, like United have post Fergie, and like Liverpool did after the 80's, then we'll see how big a club City really are.
celtic aren't a big club. Stop mentioning them in the same breath as Liverpool.
@@johntate5050 They are big enough for you to troll every post on Celtic, hundreds of posts on Celtic. Bitter we troll , girfuy champions again!
Andy Townsend is correct. I'm a Rangers supporter.
That's not a claim, that's fact.
Obviously city are richer.
The only teams in England bigger than Celtic are Man Utd and Liverpool.
Even Noel Gallagher would say Celtic are a bigger club. City have a long way to go...
You do realise the Gallagher are Irish Blues like many - including me.. its not just Celtic Liverpool and Utd FFS Man City have loads of 2 / 3 gen Irish fans - mainly because the City is soo dominated by people with Irish roots
@@ianblake3127 Yes, I know. It's why I mentioned him. You daft?
People get confused on better team or bigger financially than bigger club, Celtic and Rangers in their own right are much bigger clubs with a far bigger history and fanbase than most clubs in England, Man Utd and Liverpool are respected big clubs because they’ve done it themselves and made their own history and success before silly money came into play, The Old firm are massive institutions with a stature and support in their own right around the world.
Nobody cares about the Old Firm outside the UK.
Step out your room so sun can touch your head.
Celtic and Rangers are not big globally. Go to any village in the most remote part of the world and I guarantee you someone will be wearing a Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea, Barcelona, Arsenal or Real Madrid jersey.
@@zack7438 they are though, they have supporters clubs everywhere, genuine real fans not just people plucking a premier league club from a hat and throwing a shirt on then probably changing their team after a few years lol, Go and look what’s associated and attached to Celtic and Rangers and how they were formed etc, both are massively supported by the communities and ideologies they represent. More neutrals watch the premier league etc 100% get that but real genuine supporters Celtic and Rangers are huge
@@Glen-z7j tell me why a City fan in Africa is plastic but a celtic fan in Thailand is genuine.
@@zack7438Rangers have more supporters clubs worldwide than UTD and Liverpool combined. Even one on Antartica ffs… and Celtic have more than Rangers! Ffs, Rangers gave Chelsea their first kits, saved Arsenal from certain extinction, Aston Villa were modelled on Rangers Football Club, a secretary at Rangers invented the Champions League, etc..etc..etc. There are levels to this that most simply cannot ever reach.
Celtic have 9 million actual real fans worldwide. From the Scottish and Irish diaspora. Not talking about fans who wore a shirt once in sub saharan Africa or far flung place in the far east.
There are 30 million Irish alone world wide the majority would support Celtic so clearly your numbers are way off
City are a big club to me and that's all I care about
@jm11111They will be if found innocent of ffp charges .
@jm11111Genuine question, would you still rate city as a big club if they get found guilty with this current investigation?
@jm11111Celtic also a European champion way way before Citeh 😂😂😂
City fans are 99% plastic. Celtic fans it is their life.
@@philbarton2832 Yes because they will always be the only club for City supporters ..regardless of what division. Bit like Oldham dropping out of the league = same fans..big club to them - all this bs that 'big clubs' have a monopoly on 'fans' people are on crack here
If celtic played in epl, they would be one of biggest teams in the world, with the irish connection
Man utd, and liverpool get alot of there fan base from irish roots
If celtic were in epl, they would have just as many fans as anyone, and they would get world exposure that they cannot get now.
Celtic could fill up there massive stadium every week if they were playing english teams.
Because celtic is based on irish catholic, it would have a massive fan base if it was playing in epl.
I understand why scots do not want that, as celtic and rangers are the only ones protecting there leagues. But celtic miss out on fortunes not playing massive teams, and celtic would have one of worlds biggest fan bases if they were in epl, with there irish links to that team.
Celtic is way bigger then man city, as a potential business model
They wouldn’t get out of the championship
Celtic fans much more rabid and passionate and lifelong. City fans cannot compare to them. City is unquestionably the bigger club globally etc. No casual fan knows a thing about Celtic and it’s amazing history. Only the diehards.
You're correct about that. Globally you'll see a lot more City shirts; but if City and Celtic or even Rangers were in a final together they would both outnumber City fans by a massive margin.
Passionate and lifelong - City were setting record attendances during their dark days and getting larger crowds than most of the Premier League.
City also have the highest percentage of fans who have been going 25 years+ in the Premier League.
Celtic are big due to sectarianism.
completely wrong.there is green and white hoops everywhere you go unlike man city
Why is celtic park full of empty green seats at every game?
@@VivaOogway good keep football local..City huge Greater Manchester fan base..as always..and as it should be
KEEP FOOTBALL LOCAL
Imagine being a small club and being the champions of Europe 😂
I'd take that
Imagine being an artificial club that has just BOUGHT the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE with oil money .....
@peterkhwoirk123 how much for? Just asking for psg so they can win it?
@@peterkirk123 how much for mate just asking for psg so i can tell them thanks
@@wickedmanrick2582 how much for what????
Not even a comparison. Celtic rangers man u and Liverpool are the biggest clubs in the world. History and their fan base says it all. I'd love for celtic and rangers to be in the Premier league. With their already huge world wide fan base and loyal fans you'd have another 2 mixing it up within a few seasons.
@@petewilliams4880 lol, yet another dreamer .....
As a city fan, all ive ever heard from rival fans is 'city will never be a big club until they win the champions league' now we have and surprise surprise the goalposts have moved 🤣
😢
Aww 😢
Are Nottingham Forest a big club? They have won twice as many European Cups as Manchester City.
Why were city not this big successful team years ago ? Why did their success only come recently when rich Arabs bought the club and invested billions ?
City’s recent success has been bought by rich people’s money whereas in comparison Liverpool man united rangers and Celtic have had success for a long time bought by their own fans money - that’s the difference - that’s why in football the fans say city are a plastic club with fake success - it’s all been bought by rich Arabs money - back in the day city should have been as successful as man united before big money came into football and Chelsea were the same under abramovich
A big club is one that is successful because of its fan base in its own city not plastic fake foreign fans who are just glory hunters or rich investors
Dermot Desmond is a billionaire Celtic fan but has never invested huge amounts of money to get success
Andy is right, Celtic ain't the only ones that's bigger than the 115. Villa, Everton, Newcastle, Rangers, Forest are bigger clubs than the plastic club with no history.
115 unproven charges and it’s funny you should mention Forest… a club who have spent nowhere near the same time in the top flight as City, even before 2008 City had won more and Forest have never had a single season in their history where they’ve got bigger gates than City.
Guarantee you’re a United fan, literally the most plastic fanbase in England.
City got bigger crowds than most of the Premier League when the club was in League One.
@@tomben6180 All that cope and Forest is still a big club than the 115. Oh don't you worry your little sky blue socks about it, the FA will sweep your cheat charges under the rug next year and clear your little tinpot club.
@@tomben6180 people forget football has been around for 150 years. City have had great success recently but they were always a good club before. I support Sunderland, we have 6 league titles and were one of the most dominant english clubs in the first 50 years of the league. we had more titles than city and chelsea until recently (same as chelsea now). City are a big club and they have good fans as well, i dont understand bashing them at all.
@@peterreid People are incredibly bitter about watching another team dominate football, my hatred for Liverpool went through the roof in the 2019/2020 season for the same reason.
United and Liverpool fans hate the fact a club they perceive as inferior to them is hammering their clubs in success at the moment, that’s why.
There’s also a lot of ignorant people out there who think football started with their upbringing and most people on the internet don’t remember the 60s and 70s when City won 6 major trophies and were competing right at the top.
If Sunderland started taking league titles off United or Liverpool they’d throw the same accusations at you, they’d pretend those league titles never existed and they’d ignore the fact Sunderland get 40k+ fans in the lower leagues.
Not that you’ll ever be allowed to compete, they changed the rules to try and stop City but were too late and now it’s stopping clubs with ambition from competing, just look at Newcastle.
@@tomben6180 happy for newcastle to not be able to compete though!
Kids in Africa wearing old Liverpool, ManU, or Arsenal shirts from the 90’s is not necessarily because they support those teams sometimes it just used clothing they bought. I see kids in Africa wearing NFL or NBA jerseys all the time and kids don’t know anything about American football
That's because those shirts are giving away. Otherwise, they won't use them
Wish more young African kids found the hoops. When those colours catch you at a young age you wear them for life man. But i guess there would be no point as the famous mighty glasgow Celtic would never be broadcast in Africa anyway, its a shame
Like Barcelona and Athletic Bilbao, Celtic are a true football giant that trancends culture and politics. Hail Hail Celtic, Visca Barca, Visca Catalunya. Gora Euskadi. Free Palestine
The majority of kids don’t support city. The majority support the club their dads/family support.
@@rosssloman1309 Kids will always support the team that wins trophies .... no matter who their parents support!
And most Asian football fans are exactly the same!
Would be great if people just supported their local team instead of supporting clubs that win all the time who are in different city’s countries and even continents. Even Goldstein a Londoner who supports Man Utd, I mean there is plenty of London clubs to choose from
They are bigger than city!
I live in Johannesburg and I can tell you for sure that almost all kids and teens support City 😭....
Same in India. All kids!
Glory hunters. That's why
@Ayah_Mia very dumb comment, so kids are glory hunters now
I bet you none of them know who Franny Lee is. The average Celtic fan knows who he is and that's the difference.
@@Ayah_Mia How is it glory hunting if they are kids? Whatever club you support is also glory hunting because you weren't alive when those clubs were founded.
He’s obviously never seen the reception city get in preseasons. Japan was mental.
If the oil tycoons from Abu Dhabi had of bought trophies for Bolton Wanderers they would've had the same reception .
Fake fans don’t count
@@peterkirk123dumbest argument I heard mate doesn’t matter the point in contention is are the club getting global support and appeal which City is.
@@AU-rp4fp this blokes brain has absorbed all the 115 oil platitudes it can handle and now it’s leaking.
@@peterkirk123 ...which would have made Bolton a global brand and a team worth supporting for people all around the world, in turn turning them into a bigger club.
I love city have done since the 70's but Celtic and Rangers are massive clubs bigger than any English clubs with the exception of Man U.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Comedy gold 🤣
Celtic are massive, they have a waiting list of 38.000 for a season ticket, put Celtic in the EPL with all the riches that go with it and it would be the biggest club in the world bar none.
Obviously tourists buying them up denying the real fans a chance, same all over.
@gumbo7215 Don't need to prove nothing all in the history of our great club and all done not relying on media money or dodgy Arab money, give us a craic at the EPL and all the riches that go with it and Celtic would blow every English club away.
Celtic would enhance the EPL.
Manchester City are a richer club than Celtic.
Celtic are a bigger club than Manchester City.
Many people don’t know the difference.
Put it this way, if Celtic were administrated down to the bottom tier of Scottish football in League Two and had to go and play at a local park, Celtic would still have tens of thousands fans turning up to their games. If Manchester City lost their dirty oil billions and got relegated to the bottom tier of English football they would have absolutely no fans.
THAT is difference between a BIG club and a RICH club.
Just not true though is it 😂
A big club in Scotland. For the rest of us, Celtic are as relevant as Red Star Belgrade or Rosenborg. Most people outside Scotland don’t care about the Scottish league.
@@Marais-cu3vo I can guarantee you there will easily be more Celtic pubs outside the UK than Manchester City pubs
@@celticfan67 city had massive turnout in the lower divisions already
@@jaymuny6126 not compared to Celtic they didn’t
As a Celtic season ticket holder of 20 years, both Celtic and Rangers are without doubt the two biggest clubs in UK as per global appeal and the passion of their supporters, real fans, not the cucumber sandwich type.
@gumbo7215yea but Dan went to Irish bar in Tenerife once and there was at least 20 Celtic fans there so you’re wrong
Bournemouth would be bigger than Leeds by Goldstein's logic seeing as most players would rather go there currently. Makes no sense.
😂😂😂😂😂
This guy flip flops all the time, just recently he said Unai emery would rather pick 7th/8th Man united than stick with 5/4th place villa
@@acarna6669 Simon Jordan does the same, he just works out what most people think on whatever the discussion is and then argues the opposite.
@@Support-your-local-team true mate 👍🏻 Simon Jordan is very hypocritical at times though
Fans of struggling former greats always starting conversations about heritage because the present is too rubbish to contemplate
African and Asian fans of English clubs are fickle and would all switch to local clubs if the commercial aspect of Sky-driven EPL hype stops or is rivalled. What the hell has Chelsea etc got to do with Africa or India?
Money doesn’t make u a big club, Celtic were and always will be bigger than majority of English clubs
Celtic fan here.
City are a wonderful team. One of the best ever. They have wonderful players, a wonderful manager and they play wonderful football.
But.
They’ll never have the soul of a Celtic, a Man United or even an Everton.
They’re a rich man’s play thing who could have been any one of about 20 other clubs.
And there is the problem. People don't look beyond the past few years when talking about clubs like City.
Man Utd were bang average before the Premier League.
So ignorant. We have soul but of course as a rival fan you only look at the money. 30k fans in the old division two before the takeover
No soul? Pretty sure we're an older club than Celtic, and we also won trophies before most of the "big" clubs in England.
@marcgreen6926 no big fat no😅
@@cameronmilton7819so 👍
City’s success is fleeting. They won’t always have the financial muscle they do now, one day whether it’s 10 years or even 100, the financial backing won’t last forever. Look at Chelsea just now. No one thought their dominance would evaporate the way it has in recent years. A big club is defined by more than just present success, there’s more to it than that, you need to look at the bigger picture. Yes, Celtic don’t play in a great league but their fanbase and following is undeniable and placed within a superior structure, they would eventually compete with the elite because of that.
And celtic's domestic success is long lasting because they don't have any competition.
You say Celtic's fanbase in undeniable and they will eventually compete with the elite. What are they waiting for? Surely if the global fanbase exists, Sky would be pumping billions into the SPL because a huge profit is guaranteed. So what's the problem?
Happy with my great memories of our great Man city teams of the 70's under Tony 'skip' Book and tbf Howard Kendall's team of mainly ex Evertonians and Quinnie he brought over. Will be a fan for another 30 years i hope lol
Andy Knows, and so do most people down south. Truth be told if Celtic had the tv money the teams down there get they'd be storming it ever other season. Facts.
If Celtic are a big club why do they need the English tv money to generate income. Why aren't they generating their own?
In 1968
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CELTIC FROM GLASGOW
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Celtic
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Both the old Firm are bigger than City
Aging well, 4-3 Celitic. Great performance. If the vast amount of english punters feel the SPFL is a farmers leauge then what is the EPL following that result.
Being the biggest club in scotland is like saying you're the worlds tallest dwarf its meaningless
Good analogy.
You are either a young man in your 20s and don’t understand or just haven’t a clue, It’s not just in Scotland, Celtic we’re formed by Irish Catholics as a charity to feed the poor Irish immigrants, so they are a Hub all over the world for the Irish, They are absolutely huge, Both them and Rangers are massively supported by the two communities and ideologies they represent, they aren’t just football clubs they are institutions.
I hope your second name is Wales and your not from Wales....
@@stefanritchie1849 cymraeg ydw i
In that case you've literally explained you country. It's dependent on other. It's just a shire in England.
I’m from Johannesburg South Africa 🇿🇦, I’ve been a Manchester United supporter for the last 25 years, the tide is slowly turning where now you see families doing grocery shopping together wearing the blue of Manchester City, that’s something you’d never see 15 years ago.
It's crazy how some people don't respect man city's achievements
Because they're a small tin pot club with a pathetic support who have cheated on a massive scale.....Will that do
It's all inflated.
Take away their cash, & they wouldn't have any achievements.
Celtic, however, literally won the champions league, with a team of local boys. Did city even have 1 local lad during their "achievements" ?? 😂
@@bri_____ troll is gonna troll
Its crazy how some people most of epl fans and pundits dont respect the old firms aswell though
Personally reserving my respect until after we find out about how many of the 115 have any real basis
IMO City's legacy will always have a dent in it because of the charges linked to them regardless of whether they beat the charges or not. Also their lack of urgency to deal with the charges and put it behind them is also not helping their cause. Again this is merely my opinion.
Clickbait rubbish. Most people can’t name a single current Celtic player.
Chris Sutton?😏
Henrik Larsson!
That Japanese fella, what's his name again...🤔
Most English fans can name about 8 players outside of England so that isn't really a reflection on Celtic.
Jimmy Johnstone
Nobody outside Britain rates Celtic like that. They are not a global club. That's what makes you big. You could say that Celtic have deeper roots in the game, but City are a bigger club.
You think Australians, Americans, Irish people dont have hardcore celtic fans? Plus the millions of Irish descendants across the globe who can find a deep connection with celtic due to the many factors that make Celtic appealing to them personally. You are so wrong
Why didn't Goldstein ask Townshend who signed from Chelsea to Aston Villa if Villa are a 'big' club?
If Villa are a big club why would they sign such shite players from Chelsea?
@@raijinenel3116 Those days Villa could sign anybody. Pundits Cascarino, Bent, Merson, Keone,warnock for example were all ex Villa players and the list goes on. Only big clubs win European Cups/Champions leagues and Villa were the 4th English club (behind Man U, Liverpool and Forest) to do it
@@willmunda403 So they were once a big club!
As someone who supports a continental European team...trust me.
No one gives a flying "F" about Celtic or Ranger's supposed grandeur.
As someone,,who has held season ticks in marseile,,,sporting,,,and dortmund,,,,,CELTIC are huge,,,,just are,,,bet you have never even seen your team,,,,except on the bed spread your mummy bought you. fud.
@james6901 Don't confuse having a large fan base in Scotland and Ireland with actually being "huge". In terms of Champions League football or even Europa Leauge football they are a lower level non-entity.
@@Stoic_VoyageThat’s due to finances though, listen to the premise of the argument. They’re talking about fan base 🤡🤡😂😂
Big clubs that have won the square root of absolutely f all for years.
Still big though, city are not and that's a fact!
Big on charges 115 of em 😂 .
@@Lesthered If they ever get there.
@@RkH1st I have no dog in the fight. City at present is the best in the land without doubt on the pitch, you can harp back but at present nothing is touching them. Until or if they ever get sanctioned and relegated.
@@colinfarrelly2513 Being the best on the pitch does not make you a big club buddy, the revenue that say city and united can pull is vastly different, in fact, its huge.
Hearts fan here,
Celtic are by far a bigger club than Man City!
I base being a big club on fan base and world audience, which Celtic have a much bigger audience, man city only really became famous around 2010, before that people only knew about one team in Manchester apart from those living in the U.K.
Spurs fan since the 70s,I’d argue Celtic and Rangers have a bigger fan base than most of the premier league clubs except for maybe United and Liverpool,and their could be an argument Celtic are bigger than Liverpool.COYS.
As much as you would probably hate to admit it but you need to add Arsenal in there, the three big traditional prem clubs are Man U, Liverpool and Arsenal. Arsenal have loads of fans in the South, certain demographics all over and if we're talking overseas fans, they have over half of Africa. Then quite a way you got the next bank which includes yourselfs towards the top, maybe Newcastle, Everton and Villa fading out, Leeds gone, Man City and Chelsea returning. I think the two mentioned would fall just below the top three, just above the 2nd group.
We had a bad 100 years start of small restricted ground and shite team, but the Hammers are slowly coming round to the 2nd group, just need to have a decade of success behind us and we'll be laughing (we can dream).
PMSL @ celtic bigger than Liverpool AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Comedy gold 🤣
Did you see celtic play Sydney in Sydney? the stadium was empty? Did you also see Liverpool play melbourne in melbourne? The 100k stadium was packed and everyone was wearing red.
@johntate5050 I agree Liverpool might be slightly bigger but it's pretty close
@johntate5050 what does that mean maybe the weather was bad or which day day they play.
Celtic FC are bigger than Manchester City
The Mancunians drew with us 3-3 away and drew 1-1 at home 😂
Money might be with them but is fans - regardless of colour or creed or background or faith - are loyal to the core.
Win, lose or draw … we still the same: boisterous and respectful 💯
CELTIC! CELTIC! COYBIG! 💚
What is the obsession with how "big" a club is? If you're not winning in the present and all you have is your past, you're nothing more than a has-been trying to make your irrelevant club relevant in the present. Rather pathetic and sad when you think about it.
The whole point of winning in the now is to have something to look at in the past. They're two sides of the same coin. Despite what you think, history is important.
That's like saying Barcelona aren't a big club as they ain't won nowt for a couple of seasons 😂😂😂
Absolutely savage way of putting it... but pretty much spot on 😅
What absolute nonsense. All you have is history. That’s it. That’s all any club has.
@@davidbeeson9408 And what does that mean for the present if that’s all you have? Nothing. Wow MU won a lot in the past and they’re an f’ing joke now but at least they won a lot 15yrs ago. Seriously? Who cares and it means nothing in the present.
If you’re winning now and won a lot in the past, different story
Top 5 Biggest Clubs in Britain. Man Utd, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers and Arsenal. City, Chelsea, Spurs, Villa and Newcastle round out top 10. IMO.
Silly argument always bringing celtic into nonsense like this . Right now city is most successful on the pitch in england . Folk who support man u and Liverpool always bring this up because they cant handle not being as good as city . Celtic is a massive club no money in england will ever change that HAIL HAIL 🍀
Firstly south of the border have no idea or understanding of Celtic F.C. they are rather delusional in thinking that only england have the best clubs , support etc but most englishmen only think that until they pull on the jersey on derby day in glasgow .......then after those 90mins they're views change and there are plenty englishmen , Welsh and Irish would testify to that ........there are world class players over decades have said they have travelled the world but never experienced anything like a capacity paradise and although we havent had alot of luck in European ties , we have claimed big scalps along the way and fear none at home or away , if scottish game or clubs are so poor then why are english clubs continuously sniffing around our players ?
Alan Thompson , Chris Sutton , John Hartson , Fraser Forster , Joe Hart to name a few and those guy's played for the Jersey because they realised the magnitude of Celtic and our style of physically challenging game .........Celtic football club are a huge club and their following is well in excess of 14 million fans worldwide, how many english clubs can say that ?
Certain english clubs have international playboy Gazillionaires splashing cash to have a play thing in sport so without the big bucks$$$ your Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea to name a few would be in the championship , our managers are constantly badgered also Ange Postecoglou , Martin O'Neill so maybe engage the brain before the gub let's loose 😊
I am from Middle East … City everywhere no united shirts or Liverpool as much as city
WONDER WHY?
middle east has no football,,,,,just old players who dont give a fk about a diddy leauge in a 3rd world country with cash.
X10 bigger easy,this is a club with millions of supporters,every town ,village and city around the UK have supporters clubs,thousands in Australia, probably millions in USA etc.
They may have wealth,this is a club famous and huge since 1888 not just the past few seasons.
Most city fans are bandwagon jumpers,once they stop winning they will vanish...
They get 60,000 at home......and that's without awe the tourists visiting city's games....Celtic took 80,000 to Seville for the euro final.....
Not one other club in the UK could get anywhere near that...
Could you also make one of all the tourists visiting man city's ground,the large gaps in the city home end.
Thanks.
P,s Celtic have been a huge club for well over 100 years,can city say the same?
Not anymore, our success has made us a bigger club. Facts!
If found guilty of fraud when the 115 charges get scrutinized will the so called success be inauthentic achievements from a plastic club ?
Nottingham forest have more champions leagues than Man City.
@@peterkirk123 Plastic club but your still watching and commenting on videos about little old city 😂
You'll be supporting arsenal in 18 months when city are back in league 1
Your success has made you more successful, glory hunter’s always support teams like city. My dad is an old fan and didn’t even know who they were until 2013. Orlando pirates are a bigger club than city.
I get where Andy is coming from but to say manc city are only successful because of their money is laughable people could say the same about the old firm we have riches the rest of the SPL could only dream of and could be argued that’s why they have amassed 118 trophies each
You can very easily define which clubs are bigger than other. You have to actually put some time and anlytics and data behind but it can be done. You use a weighted matrix with a range of categories and scoring against each, define which are the most important and least important factors, use some common sense to set a baseline and then you can make tweaks but you'll actually have a tool that works. Me and some friends did this years back rather than being bored at work, I've made a start at recreating it but it takes time and I have a day job. If someone who actually works in football wanted to do this it is very doable but sports journalist would rather debate over nothing than actual do the work.
Using a single definition to define what is a big club or which is bigger than another makes no sense as shown here. If Man City win 20 Champions Leagues, make more money than any other club in the world, any other kind of metric but if you go to South Africa and don't see random people wearing a Man City shirt makes them a small club? No substance behind that. History, recent history, trophys, potential, revenue, tv viewers, season ticket holders, stadium capacity, cultural impact, general audience recognition, etc etc. ALL of these things and more determine what makes the club a certain size, it never boils down to 1 or 2 things.
City will never win 20 UCLs Real Madrid have won 14 since 1956 and that is exceptional and unmatched!
@@johnscally5983 and the amount of CL wins that Real Madrid have won is relevant to the conversation because…?
Celtic in Seville 100,000 strong respect all the English clubs however Celtic have a Soul and Spirit that is unsurpassed if you don’t believe me ask Messi 🍀⚡️❤️🌏🌟
City will be viewed similarly to Lance Armstrong long term, financially doped championships that have an asterisk beside them.
People will take this as who are the better football club rather than who have the bigger fan base.
Who even cares, my cars bigger than your car??…just sad by Townsend and pure bitter…City till I die 😀
City till you get relegated😂😂
@@Rocky-w5r 30000 in the third division says otherwise.
@@Rocky-w5r Paul, Manchester City FC have ALWAYS been a very well supported club in the UK, bigger than say Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Nottingham Forest, etc...in terms of average attendances, and have won more points, cups, titles etc than most clubs in the professional divisions
Celtic are bigger in Manchester than Man City!!!
Andy Townsend was very respected till he started saying things like this
But he's right! Travel the world and will see!!
@@1Jameskellyin Ghana, I sea lot of people wearing City’s kits
Celtic & Rangers are global institutions born from a centuries old ideologies that have competed beside each other. They are only limited by their league. Man U, Liverpool, barce, Real, Munich & dortmund and the Milan clubs, global giants. The rest the now challenge that do so through dirty money. They are great clubs but will never be global clubs. They might be for fan boys in Africa & Asia who switch with the seasons, but for those who understand and teach their kids the truth, that will always be the truth. Celtic & Rangers are dying though as commercialism and the fanboys take over. The Germans and Scottish have it right, England has sold its unique footballing institution for dirty money.
Simon the Celtic fan is talking total rubbish. Every non-local player comes for the money, it’s not limited to Citeh. Rooney is a Scouser, a fan of Everton but went to play for Man United, he must be a mercenary then.
Wasn't just because of money though. United have a long succesful history of multiple league titles and European trophy wins. City had none of that. Just money.
@@SteveAustin-zv1nn It was mainly about money, that's why Antony joined United from Ajax even though Ajax have won more European Cups, because United pay more.
Rooney is actually a Celtic fan to
Yes Marias, in some respects he is a mercenary.
This big club argument is all about hating and envy. Fans of these so-called big clubs know their team can’t compete with city on the field so their only argument is that they’re “bigger club”. City has turned the so-called toughest league in the world to a farmer’s league. On the verge of winning 4 league titles in a row and will be favorite next season again.
City are massive! Deal with it.
Dealt with it still not massive
Klopp won one prem 😂
@@Lesthered but your still here
Celtic are far, far bigger than City. No question.
@gumbo7215 For one, Celtic have many, many times more supporters clubs worldwide than City will ever have.
@gumbo7215 - Also, in 2023, Celtic’s average attendance was 5,000 higher than City
@gumbo7215 - so you’re right but the people who compile stats professionally are wrong?? GTFOH
Man city no match for Glasgow Celtic in terms of history
De Bruyne and maybe the goalkeeper would get into celtics team but that's about it
Who is Celtic?
De Bruyne doesn’t start over Hatate, sorry
I couldn’t even name a Celtic player, never mind one that could possibly play in City’s reserves 😂
Agreed, possibly haaland as backup to kyo kyo kyoooogooo!
It doesn’t matter because at the end of the day only one club stands above all and that’s Real Madrid
Not a chance. Man city already have more global appeal than Celtic. What is Andy on about? If this question was asked 20 years ago, ok, sure. But now??? What is he on about lmao.
I’ve been all over the world and seen Celtic jerseys wherever I’ve gone. You don’t see City jerseys anywhere.
Only because of the league, You go anywhere around the world you will see Celtic and Rangers fans,
@@paulmooney-nl1zt that's not really true though, is it? Not an actual measurable fact. What city have done in the last decade alone ensures they'll have more new followers and fans for years to come. This is how big clubs became big clubs in the first place. And with Celtic and Scottish football being practically irrelevant nowadays, I don't see how they could possibly argue about this. Can you call yourself a big club when you don't win a CL game in 6 years? Celtic are irrelevant as far as I'm concerned, how could they possibly be considered a bigger club than a team that just won the treble? Historically, there's an argument sure. But the last decade is what matters, and city have grown exponentially and are arguably the best club side in the world right now. There won't be a drop off like Celtic had either. Celtic are just a better supported Sunderland lol.
@@Glen-z7j no you won't. You're acting like this is truly the case but it really isn't. What we see is almost entirely a mix of the top prem sides and teams like Madrid, Barca, psg, Milan, etc. Celtic would probably be far down on that list, not that there is actually a list to measure by.
@@IamTheStormThatIsApproaching1 what’s not true? That I’ve seen Celtic jerseys everywhere I’ve been and no city jerseys? No, that’s very definitely true.
I think theres a difference between a big club and a current successful club, a big club has heritage, history, an array of legendary players and a global reach, City’s success is too recent for them to be considered up there with Man utd, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich. But like Andy said it doesn’t really matter because the here and now is whats important to fans, and right now city might not be the biggest but they are the best.
So when City were winning trophies in the 60s and 70s, had full internationals in the side, were playing in front of the 3rd biggest crowds in the country, does that not count as history or “heritage”?
What about when City set the attendance record for a game in England outside of Wembley? Still stands at 84,500?
Arsenal has fans in all corners of the globe, too. Not just Man u or Liverpool.
the appeal of the premiership teams is due mainly to the world wide saturation of their matches and the money that has been pumped into it .prior to that a lot of these clubs were not anythin special
Celtic are worth £450m, City are worth £4b.
Celtic are 48th on the value list, City are 4th, the gap is enormous. Celtic average attendance is 7’000 below City’s. There is no comparison apart from Irish fans of course.
Celtic average attendance last year was 59k city was 53k ;)
Come in with the “facts” and get them wrong 😂😂😂
You dont see Arsenal pubs in Maritious, u see Celtic pubs though.
That’s cos all scotch leave Scotland cos no one wants to live there
My local Sports Bar in South Yorkshire only fills up when either Man Utd or Liverpool are on TV, that or Barnsley
1. Mancheter United
2. Liverpool
3. Celtic
4. Rangers
5. The rest...
Every trophy won by an English team after 1992 should have an asterisk on it.
who cares? As a boro fan I am pleased to watch the entertaining football Citeh produce. Their fans that stood with them in div 1 are now living the dream.
He is right