Managing a PL club or a select number of other European club is far higher in esteem than the vast majority of national sides. Its that simple. France, Brazil, Germany maybe a few others are probably more highly esteemed. I'd put managing Villa on a par with managing England for example.
lol England is a much bigger job than France or Germany even if they are less successful. More money, more exposure. Less trophies yes, but if anything that makes it bigger because there's an actual challenge to be had, winning a trophy with England would enshrine you forever, win one with either of those two and you are just the latest name. Is it embarrassing for England that that's the case? Yes, but from the manager perspective it makes it more appealing.
@Epsilon04 it ain't about money, it's about expectation and likelihood of winning "the biggest prize in footy" Germany, Brazil or France for example...that expectation and liklihood is way bigger than any other nation. 1 or 2 other more outsider nations could be included but really its those 3 that are always the favourits regardless of form in getting to the finals. This makes them the most esteemed managerial positions in football. Then due to a wane of interest in international footy (in europe anyway) the managerial positions of the big european clubs supersedes the vast majority of national sides. Where is southgate going to manage now? He did a surprisingly good job with England! Got them very close! Yet hes not going to be managing a big european club (unless they are truly up the creek and panicking). And that's the bottom line. Big clubs aint interested because the vast majority of national team managers are not as highly esteemed as big european club managers.
We are now seeing younger managers get chances as national team managers, often in the past the jobs went to older managers who had accomplished a lot at club level. I suspect Bellamy will want to manage in the Prem sometime in his future but won't leave unless a huge club come for him or he has achieved what he thinks he can with the national team.
At least we can get people from our own country managing our own national team. The england job is so poisonous, even your own countrymen don't want it. The Wales job IS the pinnacle of management in Wales, why even bring the foreign country ingerlund into it? This has nothing to do with you, your league or your national team. It's like saying that about any other national team job in any other country. Completely irrelevant.
@@howells192 the club don't need to be bigger but job will be bigger. They'd get paid more at Villa, the prem is the biggest league in the world. Plus there's more chance of you winning a trophy, as a manager there's more appeal in that. The national job will always be there. That's what Darren is talking about, you just don't listen.
I mean surely you base the size of the job on the wage. So yes the villa job is bigger. Wales don't have a single player that makes the England squad. They probably have a pool of 200 players who are better than the likes of Harris or Cullen. So what Bellamy is doing is unbelievable. Southgates team had no cohesion. Bellamy is playing a style of football thats much better than Coleman or Southgate. Hopefully he stays at wales for years.
They clearly are, most don't even know that's there's another club in Birmingham than Villa. Considering they use the cities name. That's how big Villa are, how embarrassing.
Few thousand? Birminghams metro area has more people than Wales. Theres probably more fans of villa than fans of the welsh team. Football is barely even wales biggest sport
Right now it is head and shoulders bigger than the wales job, the wales job used to be an attractive job, 6-9 years ago but now its back to being a bang average and unexciting job because of the lack of top players and general weakness of the squad right now.
The only people bringing this up is the English and they know f-all about any football outside of their own ignorant bubble. Plus the english completely forgetting about the fact they are in group B and lost to Greece as well as Iceland earlier this year. The ignorance and arrogance is staggering.
For any Welshman, the wales job would obviously be the pinnacle.
He literally said that in the clip
Managing a PL club or a select number of other European club is far higher in esteem than the vast majority of national sides. Its that simple.
France, Brazil, Germany maybe a few others are probably more highly esteemed.
I'd put managing Villa on a par with managing England for example.
lol England is a much bigger job than France or Germany even if they are less successful. More money, more exposure. Less trophies yes, but if anything that makes it bigger because there's an actual challenge to be had, winning a trophy with England would enshrine you forever, win one with either of those two and you are just the latest name.
Is it embarrassing for England that that's the case? Yes, but from the manager perspective it makes it more appealing.
Delete your comment 😂😂😂😂😂 absolutely laughable
@Epsilon04 it ain't about money, it's about expectation and likelihood of winning "the biggest prize in footy"
Germany, Brazil or France for example...that expectation and liklihood is way bigger than any other nation. 1 or 2 other more outsider nations could be included but really its those 3 that are always the favourits regardless of form in getting to the finals. This makes them the most esteemed managerial positions in football.
Then due to a wane of interest in international footy (in europe anyway) the managerial positions of the big european clubs supersedes the vast majority of national sides.
Where is southgate going to manage now? He did a surprisingly good job with England! Got them very close! Yet hes not going to be managing a big european club (unless they are truly up the creek and panicking). And that's the bottom line.
Big clubs aint interested because the vast majority of national team managers are not as highly esteemed as big european club managers.
We are now seeing younger managers get chances as national team managers, often in the past the jobs went to older managers who had accomplished a lot at club level. I suspect Bellamy will want to manage in the Prem sometime in his future but won't leave unless a huge club come for him or he has achieved what he thinks he can with the national team.
At least we can get people from our own country managing our own national team. The england job is so poisonous, even your own countrymen don't want it. The Wales job IS the pinnacle of management in Wales, why even bring the foreign country ingerlund into it? This has nothing to do with you, your league or your national team. It's like saying that about any other national team job in any other country. Completely irrelevant.
Crazy conversation
The man is 100% correct!! Aston Villa are bigger than Wales!!
Sure they are
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The Everybody Qualifies World Cup not that much of a challenge Andy or pays that well
I like you usually Darren but whatever you smoked before saying this stay off it pal 🤣
You are delulu
He's talking the truth
@phillyflyboxing villa are a big club but not bigger than a country
@@howells192 the club don't need to be bigger but job will be bigger. They'd get paid more at Villa, the prem is the biggest league in the world. Plus there's more chance of you winning a trophy, as a manager there's more appeal in that. The national job will always be there. That's what Darren is talking about, you just don't listen.
@@howells192 So by this logic, managing san marino is bigger than managing Barcelona fc? Don't be daft
villa have had a good few years. starting to draw a few to many matches now. so not sure
I mean surely you base the size of the job on the wage. So yes the villa job is bigger. Wales don't have a single player that makes the England squad. They probably have a pool of 200 players who are better than the likes of Harris or Cullen. So what Bellamy is doing is unbelievable. Southgates team had no cohesion. Bellamy is playing a style of football thats much better than Coleman or Southgate. Hopefully he stays at wales for years.
Even Ipswich a bigger job
Benty just doesn't listen getting bored of his takes on here now time to freshen up
You must be a blue nose or Welsh.
Villa aren’t even the biggest team in Birmingham 😂
Bahahaha cope blue nose
They clearly are, most don't even know that's there's another club in Birmingham than Villa. Considering they use the cities name. That's how big Villa are, how embarrassing.
Correct
Darrent bent man always waffles
Expectations of a country is bigger than expectations from a few thousand cult team fans.
Few thousand? Birminghams metro area has more people than Wales. Theres probably more fans of villa than fans of the welsh team. Football is barely even wales biggest sport
@@ip2always-wins No, football is bigger than rugby here. There are 3 registered footy players to every 1 registered rugby player.
@@goattm2 I'm talking about in terms of fans. International rugby generally gets more viewers than the Welsh national football team
Right now it is head and shoulders bigger than the wales job, the wales job used to be an attractive job, 6-9 years ago but now its back to being a bang average and unexciting job because of the lack of top players and general weakness of the squad right now.
Which nations league groups were the english in again? You lost against Greece and lost at home to Iceland earlier this year.
The only people bringing this up is the English and they know f-all about any football outside of their own ignorant bubble. Plus the english completely forgetting about the fact they are in group B and lost to Greece as well as Iceland earlier this year. The ignorance and arrogance is staggering.