Have you found a setting that works for you? Please do share with the community! Have a great weekend all, stay safe and thankyou for your continued support.
Well, I suggest you avoid a router altogether, buy a Wifi 6 USB dongle like the Tp-link Archer, and connect directly the Q3 to the PC through a hotspot.
In my opinion here in msfs we have the most important setting for VR for cockpit inside feeling. 1. Shadow maps. You can set it “4096”in cfg file. You will get shadows like in real life. But i use 2048. In your setting its loo low! Shadows in cockpit very important, because its so close to your eyes. 2. Windshields effects only “ULTRA” for VR, because if use “high”, you got no reflections inside cockpit. 3. Reymached reflections “ULTRA”, see point number 2. 4. Light shafts on ULTRA, because if you set on HiGH, you lose a lot of effects like in leal life, when sun blinding you through mirrors inside cockpit. Its MUST only on ULTRA. But. If you fly behind the plane these settings not important and can use medium. Its have HUGE impact for Inside cockpit feeling. Ambient occusion medium. If low, you also lose a lot. But. I have 4090. For 3070 i think these settings too heavy
Make sure you don't have heavy 5ghz wifi traffic bottlenecking your performance. Especially if you live in an apartment complex. After getting a Wifi 6e router, wireless pcvr performance improved dramatically. The game fully playable in VR on my 3070 core i7 system. If you have a less powerful system but really want to do VR flight sim, Aerofly FS 4 has unbeatable VR performance, but you'll have to sacrifice on scenery detail and features.
been struggling for years with msfs and vr, finally had to buy a whole new setup with a 4080 and still had the same types of problems. This video literally gave me my first stutter free, screen tear free and CTD free flight in msfs after almost 4 years.
hey i also got a 4080 , i got no stutter at all. but ive found that the plane cockpit itself looks quiet good. but the outside invironment looks like lego blocks lol. do you have the same issue ?
@@basvh666this is inherently a bit of an issue with VR headsets but if the game has a view distance option want this as high as your computer can handle.
Good results with your setting for MSFS. Using a Quest 3, my PC is a 3060ti, i7 11700k, 32gb, with virtual desktop version 1.29.9, released today. Have a Tenda 6E access point located near my pc for 6 Ghz wifi. Good results using ultra setting with VD and openXR toolkit set with foveated rendering on performance/wide setting. Wifi connection seeing anywhere between 340-440 mbps using the 264+ codec.
@@DavidBrown-tl3ft Vary between high and ultra setting on VD, 72fps setting. MSFS had indicated resolution at 2496x2592 at 100 on res, with suggested 90 on TLOD and OLOD to account for lower spec graphics card. Did not override resolution in openxr toolkit (not running oculus tray tool). Processor 11700k overclocked at 4.4 Ghz. No overclock on graphics card. I have found results vary depending on aircraft and complexity of MSFS location. For example, a hawk T1 out of Queenstown gave fps 60-72 fps and latency of around 60ms, which I found acceptable. Hope this helps.
@@ianbrown2683 interesting not overriding resolution in Openxr. Will try that. Just cannot get above 33fps even with SSW and below 130 latency even with my 3070. Have you got any special settings in VD?
@@DavidBrown-tl3ft SSW set from VD. Only other factor I can think of is that my dedicated wifi 6E access point is connected via a netgear switch to my PC (internet connection is via another router) ,with short cat 6+ network cable lengths , minimising any local network latency.
Fwiw - The 7800X3D+6000 ram can actually hit 72Hz on Quest 2/3; in most cases with lower quality. You still need a very strong GPU (4090 ideally) but MSFS is very CPU limited on a 4090.
Hello VR , found that turning the in game global graphic setting to high or Ultra then turning the terrain slider all the way down and objects slider all way down , things will look reasonable with good frame rate and smooth , from there move up your terrain and object sliders until you have the good balance.
I really appreciate this video, thank you. It annoys me when RUclipsrs say how amazing certain games are on their multi-thousand pound 13900k, 4090 PC's, when a very small percentage of their viewers will be running the same/similar specs. IMO it essentially renders the video pointless for everyone else. I have a Quest 3 but I've been struggling getting MSFS running well on it with my aged 8600k and 3080 PC. Hopefully these settings will help me, so thank you.
IU have tried getting Virtual Desktop through the Meta store twice, and I could not get any version you have in this video, or the version 2 others had in their videos. And both times I could not get the desktop streamer that shows open xr in it, nor the new version, or beta of open xr to use with the desktop streamer. So both times I got a refund. I am using an RTX 3070 and a Quest 3, and with DLSS, the default settings VR settings with clouds to ultra and tress and building to high, and running the VR at 72 Hz, with open Xr at 36 FPS I am flying at 36 FPS with 5%-40% of headspace and it is buttery smooth withy no stutters and clear as my 1440p monitor. So I think I am done tweaking and chasing settings, until I upgrade to a 4090 I think I have found my VR sweet spot in MSFS. Thank you for the great video. The Oculus tray tool is set to 1.3 for SS.
Hi Steve. In msfs with oculus image can be totaly different in terms of sharpening settings. 1 month i spent ang got the best result 1. In sim settings sharpening is zero “0” 2. OpenXR sharpening in “CAS” mode, but keep it on Zero “0”. Cas mode get you a lot more details, but this is a lot “aliasing mode”and if you keep it on “0”, you are switching on the cas, but with almost no aliasing. 3. Oculus link sharpening “normal” , because off or quality settings get you same aliasing, but blurry image in my opinion. I dont see oversharp in normal mode. What I noticed, oculus software or msfs conflict with sharpening and better switching off one of sharpening. Try to play with it. For VD this setting get me the best picture, but i prefer link beacuse it’s smoother If use this settings, there is Almost No shimmering or Aliasing in TAA. If use DLSS(dlaa) its perfect. No shimmering or aliasing If you can please experiment with all sharpening settings (msfs, oculus link and openxr) and make separate video only about sharpening. Because it the MUST important in terms if visual and you get so different look image if use CAS or NIS sharpening. Thank you!
Thank you, your advice helped me to improve the visualization of the GPS panels with DLSS along with the great video of "VR Flight Sim Guy", with a modest Ryzen 5 5600x, DDR4 32 GB, RTX2080TI and Quest3 Greetings
Super video! Thanks so much for taking the time to put this together. I’ll certainly give these settings on a try. I’m using a 3080 so be interesting to see how close I can get to replicating this performance. I have to admit though that although not quite as detailed in terms of scenery with MSFS Aerofly 4 runs buttery smooth on Quest 3 on very high settings and is well with a look as an alternative
The virtual desktop settings and codec made a big improvement with my 3070 system! But I seem to have better performance using nvidia dlss set to performance. all other game settings you recommended im using. Looks and runs good enough that i dont need to drop 2 grand on a 4090.
Nice one Steve. I've been exploring using 120 Hz/fps in MSFS using the Quest 3 and I tell you what, it's a little bit magical. You do have to sacrifice some visual quality so you'll probably not like it but I definately feel the smoothness. Summary of my settings incase anybody else wants to try... PC 13900K RTX 4090 / Quest 3 / VD AV1 10bit, Godlike, 120Hz, ASW Always / MSFS High-End, Terrain Lvl Detail 135, DLSS Quality / OpenXR Tlkt Res 3300x3500, Locked 60
Also over cities? I tried 120hz as well yesterday with VD and the smoothness was really nice as you say it. However the picture quality is still better with link cable.i cannot decide on what I prefer ^^
No definately not over built up cities but it's not terrible, you just don't get 120 fps. I'm with you, I really like Steve's settings the clarity is much better but I also like it smooth. Still I find it fun to tweak. @@Jan-1337
Jfyi: The anisotropic filtering should be 16x in the nVidia settings, and OFF in the sim. And for 4090 and q3 users try override resolution in open xr toolkit set to 5800x6072. Let me know what you see ...
@@VRFlightSimGuy you're welcome pal! Believe me, at least in the 4090 works better. Also noticed that you're turning OFF the texture supersampling. I wonder why and if you're not getting a terrible runway texture for example. I recommend 6x6 with the 4090 and anisotropic turned OFF while 16x in the nVidia control panel. I also recommend 120hz in virtual desktop, then motion reprojection ON (AKA Spacewarp). Don't ask me why but looks like that when you push the 4090 it works better. This way you can use openxr toolkit and choose a higher resolution without loosing performance.
Have you tried playing with a halo style head strap, removing the facial interface and angling the lenses closer to your eyes? Ends up being a much wider FOV. Haven't measured it yet but the gain would be somewhere around 15-20 degrees more.
Snap dragon super resolution does not work for Ultra or Godlike. It is upscaling but can only go to Ultra resolution so if you are at Ultra or higher no affect. .
Good video but could be a little clearer. Did you use ‘debug tool? You shifted to OpenVR. So at that point are you still using Oculus/ Debug tool? Clarity needed. But thanks.
Great video thanks. One change I made was not using Snap Dragon Super Resolution. If you’re already using Ultra or Godlike then there is nothing to upscale to.
I have an HP Reverb G2 right now, with super easy to get up and running pretty much just plugged it in and was ready to go almost. How hard is the quest 3 to get up and running on my VR msfs? Is it pretty much plug and play and answer some questions and you are up and running? Thank you ahead of time
Hi Steeve, I had a suggestion as English is not my first language and probably a lot of subscribers as well. I would definitely appreciate a short video on the graphics settings terms and what it means. Ex : what is a glare? what is vertical async? SSW? Sharpening vs levels of details. I look at your videos with a lot of interest but I must admit I have no clue what most of the graphics options do in the settings is MsFs. Same goes for the NVidia control pannel options, XR toolkit. Or perhaps you have a link to understand all those terms? Cheers from Quebec!
thanks for the great video, Seeking advice from you: I use Quest 3 + VD for wireless streaming to play DCS. I've tried to lower the in-game settings of DCS, and currently, the frame rate and effects are basically satisfactory. However, occasionally the 3D image on the Quest headset freezes while the image on the computer screen remains visible. I have no choice but to force quit the game. It's very annoying, especially when trying to view the map with F10 during big missions. I've already dedicated a great game wifi6 router for the computer and Quest headset, with the computer connected via Ethernet cable. It's confirmed to be a gigabit network. I wonder if you have encountered this situation? The VD image quality is great, but it's just not stable. It's very frustrating. Thank you all for your help! My Computer specs: i5 12600 + 4060ti + 32GB RAM.
I switched to VD when they came out with VDXR Yes the cable have a few advantage but the amount of fucking around with the oculus software end vs it just work... for 3ms saved was not worth it. You do need to tweak your router properly for VD to work flawlessly.
At 6:56 in the video you show a screen off Open XR Toolkit. My version of it is nothing like that it is the same version number but it is a white box like screen. How do you get that screen to show? Great video by the way some great info.
I have the Quest 3 for two days now. But i have to say, i am not very happy with the colors ether in X-Plane or MSFS. I was using the headset via link cabel only. I had the Rift S before. The colors where much better there, more natural. I think i will return the headset and try to find a headset with a displayport cabel.
@vrflightsimguy ok I've spent the last few days testing my Q3, and have come to a verdict. I'll be using the link cable and not VDXR. You'll never guess the main reason! The oculus software let's me set the horizontal fov multiplier to a value > 1 (1.2 in my case), and this removes the very annoying black edge that can be seen in the view when turning your head in VR (it's basically the edge of the screen that gets the edge of the rendered image shifted off of it). This one reason is enough to make the link cable the obvious choice for me. But with the 940Mbps hack, and supersampled resolution (on a 4070ti) it looks very sharp indeed! Also don't forget to update DLSS to the latest version!!! Overall a big improvement over the G2 imho (pretty happy not to have that tiny sweet spot anymore!)
Hi there @VR Flight Sim Guy, Amazing setup guide thanks so much. Followed every step and with some other tweaks for my system (7800x3d rtx4080 ddr5 cl30 6000) I figured the sweetspot between flying fenix / a300 / pmdg 737 and payware airports online with AIG manager ai traffic (massive on frames) couldn’t run at TAA without taking off with my PC. So I ran your setts for TAA on DLSS with some tweaks in OPENXR and the ODT and it is smooth! In de 737 I am even able to crank it all to ultra / sliders to the right but then fenix wise or a300.. men what a drop of frames and latency! So all at the safe middle side of things. Thanks so so much. Just rest me one question, Nvidia Reflex Latency, is off at your video. Ive got it off. But what is the purpose or win for turning this on in VR? Haven’t really see big changes but it might be workable? Hope you could help me out on that! Once again, thanks so much for a good basis on VR and the sim.!
Thankyou for your comments and I'm so glad my video has been helpful. I've tried it both on and off and it doesn't seem to make a huge difference. I would try turbo mode on and off in the open XR toolkit btw, it can give you a good performance boost when using link cable, depending on your hardware and GPU scheduling settings. Best wishes.
Hi, thx for your Videos. Whych CPU are u using in your 3070 ti machine?? I'm Struggeling to get performance. I f i Use open xr toolkit and increase resolution to the level of clarity ( definition that i want I go bellow 30 FPS and get a lot of stutters. My machine is I7 8700 k and a 3090 Thx so much for your help
Great info. Thanks. I'm thinking about upgrading to a 4080 soon and a new VR headset. It would be great to see a video of side by side comparison of the image quality/screen door effect for Pico 4, Quest 3, Crystal etc? I'm currently using an original Oculus Rift. I've never tried pancake lenses and I'm wondering how the screen door effect compares between them and my original Rift. Keep them coming. I had hoped to be passed screen door by this stage.
Helpful comment: there is no more screen door effect on these newer devices. FYI the Crystal is clear but I did not like it for (1) weight), (2) distorted edges, (3) seemed only suited to seated simulators and wasnt very stable on my head. (4) that heavy battery pack. .. If you are going into that range I would highly recommend the Varjo Aero.. So easy to use, best quality lenses and internal cooling to clear up lense fog. I use one with a 4090 & 64memory and run MSFS, DCS and IL-2 all in highest quality settings, with not skipped frames whatsoever. I think the 4080 would actually do just as well with current software. Note though you will need outside trackers with the Varjo.
I still own the Rift CV1, it's gone out to the family and come back the last couple of months since i bought the Quest 3. I would say checkout Tyriel Wood's video of the Quest Pro/Quest 2/Quest 3 through the lens if you want to see the screendoor effect (SDE). It is noticable on the Quest 3, oddly it's more noticable in MSFS on stuff further away and the cockpit representation is absolutely fine. Much better than the CV1 but you can tell the colours are not completely solid in areas but it's ok just don't expect objects in the distance to appear sharp Compared to other headsets, I've tried the Quest 2 and Pico 4 and both are much better for SDE than the Quest 3. Unfortunately it's the worst of the modern headsets for this effect, on par with the Quest Pro. Higher end headsets I don't own but you shouldn't have any SDE with the Bigscreen Beyond, Crystal or Aero, HP G2. Despite the SDE for the Quest 3, it's not a deal breaker for me and the lenses are sensational - undoubtly the reason why SDE exists in the Quest 3 to begin with as they are super sharp across the whole display. Coming from the CV1 I had no idea about edge to edge clarity as the CV1 is supprisingly uniform but not particularly clear to begin with. Headset's like the PSVR 2 and G2 have horrible sweatspots eyes need to be in the exact position to see clearly and both suffer from poor edge to edge clarity.
I "upgraded" from a rift-s to Quest 3 and clarity is definitely better. SDE is still noticeable to me but it's pretty minor. Quest 3 is not comfortable at all though compared to my perfectly fitting rift-s that I can wear all day if I wanted. You will need to invest in a new premium strap. Also battery packs if you don't want to be hooked to the wire a lot. One thing I don't care for about the Quest 3 is the darkening around the edges of the lenses. My rift-s is consistent brightness clear to the edge. I started out with Rift CV1, any of these newer headset are going to blow you away with the clarity improvement. Colors will not be as good on the LCD based units though.
I was looking to buy the Quest 3, but the problem is that first you say its no good then on another video you say its brilliant! so do i buy one or not!!!
Yeah, i didn't test extensively but it did feel smoother. VDXR works :) Now all i want is to figure out which other games are supporting openXR. I don't have good experience with the openXR toolkit, to me it felt like it was slowing down my system. I am more a fan of the Oculus Tray Tool, with the ASW settings and supersampling. But to be fair, the openXR toolkit is for me a new a tool and i dont know the right settings for it. Also, my pc is running VR like never before. SO i don't feel the need to experiment with the toolkit. atm my MSFS2020 settings are on the high preset and i tuned down the uu... uhm... lol.... uu.. the object detail settings, i think? Default is 100, i set that to 80. And it runs smooth, i have 1 setting that i want to set on Ultra, and those are the clouds. But... my computer doesn't like that... hehe My bottleneck is my cpu. i7 7700k@5Ghz RTX 3080 12GB 32 Ram
Thanks for the video, but I'm confused... the best way to go is with Virtual Desktop but via WIFI, not cable? Is not cable the way to obtain the best quality?
Thanks for this video! With that configuration rtx3070ti and meta quest 3, can you get small letters/numbers in the glass cockpit readable? I have rrx3080 and am looking for some vr headset for FS2020. Budget for vr is like 500 ish USD. Which one would you recommend? Thank you!
Thanks for this - goes a long way to help me choose a new VR headset after using a Rift 2 - saying that I have 32GB RAM with a 2070 Super card and an i7-9700K CPU - do you think I can upgrade from my rift to a q3 easily?
Hi, I have got the same set up you use and have replicated your settings and graphics are now brilliant with the quest 3. Recently though on link cable after a while I get in essence a split screen, dark above and light below or if I look behind it gradually it crosses a line from dark to light!! Any advice would be appreciated. Also I’m convinced my norm has a blue hue to it…
@@Tygrmoth wow. Absolutely amazing. Ive tried G2 and the clarity at the sweetspot was unbelievable. Having that all over the FOV must be unreal🤩 what specs are u running? Im about to start my build and DCS VR adventure for the first time and Im really wondering if 4090 is a must or 4080 is almost as good
I'd personally say the clarity in the centre point of the Reverb G2 is a bit sharper, but of course, the Quest 3 has edge to edge clarity which, if you can up the resolution, looks fabulous. Keep in mind though, the image quality will always suffer overall due to the lack of DP connection.
@@VRFlightSimGuy That last sentence is what makes it so difficult to decide. But I think I'll go for Q3. That edge to edge, and "just a bit" less sharp than the tiny sweetspot in G2 does it.... I think... 🤣
Great video and thanks again. Is there anywhere one could go to get a printed version of all these settings. Although its greatly appreciated, it is also time consuming and frustrating to stop/start the video to get the settings.
Why can’t I cut and paste into the max bit rate setting in Oculus Toolkit like you did in the video. I tried Adminstrator. Currently limited to 500 which still gives too much CPU latency which is limiting my 4090 and limiting use of better settings. Despite 13900k 32Gb and RTX 4090 still cannot get all ultra and 45 frames.
will the 3070 settings work with a Quest 3, i7-9700, 32mg ram, 2080TI gpu set up ?? ( or would i need to tone them all down) new to VR and trying to figure this setup out :) thnx for any input.
When you are using Airlink connected to PC via link cable do you start MSFS and then switch to VR just using the oculus app ? I’m on a Pico 4 atm and it was working fine with VD but something has gone really wrong and considering getting a Quest 3
Thanks VRFSG for this great content on your channel! I can reach about 40fps with max settings (except clouds set to High) and high terrain lod with a 3090, DLSS/quality, and my Reverb G2. 30 to 34fps with TAA. On bush flying. The small sweet spot is not an issue anymore for me, as I have a improved it and got used to it. So is it right to say that I can get the same shapness but better FPS with a reverb G2 and DLSS/quality, with my 3090?
GPU scheduling indices stutter for me. I kept the quest 2 for MSF2020 since I was disappointed with display colours on the quest 3. But since changing the sharpening to quality and adjusted the render resolution. I was pleasantly surprised with the results. Still need to tweak the settings to get the photorealism I had on the quest 2. The oversaturated blue is noticeable on the Q3.
Nice video, thanks, can you tell me where I can find information how to setup the quest 3 for VR in msfs2020? I'm a newcomer to VR and apparently I can't manage to dive into a cockpit in VR...
Same here…I don’t know where to start. It seems like a lot of these videos are geared towards people that are just tweaking…I haven’t found anything that is a basic how to guide.
Thanks for the video! You mentioned asynchronous space warp with the link cable but how do you enable it? I only have that option for virtual desktop not link?
Very good video! HOWEvER - I am beset with the "No VR Device detected" error in MSFS after changing from Reverb G2 to Meta Quest 3 (Airlink). RegEdit entry is correct, reinstallation of Oculus unsuccessful. Has anyone had this experience and found a solution?
I see people recommending a lot less than the 940 bitrate, even as low as 250. For me, I don't see any difference between 250, 500, and 940 though. I was using an Odyssey+ for years, ever since they were released, actually, and even at 1.0 SS on the Quest 3, it's so much sharper than the O+, I don't even feel the need to turn it up any.
Do you enable HAGS in TAA mode on 4090? Also, Synchronous Space Warp (SSW) in Virtual Desktop & Asynchronous Space Warp (ASW) in the Oculus Utility are two different things.
Im getting weird bar of shimmering in the upper left of the screen with my Quest 3. Has anyone experienced this and have a fix. Rest of the experience is great!.
Just got a quest 3 and a moza setup on the way, but i got a feeling the time i have to spend on getting the right settings will take the fun out of it. Sad. I have watched soo many videos and read shitton about the subject, but seems like every person has their own opinions, soo there is not 1 right way to do it.
@@R-py6uf It's not that complicated. The videos are more or less telling all the same. For a cable connection (what I'm using) you only need a couple of settings in the Oculus Debug Tool (for the streaming) and the OpenXR Toolkit for the games that support it (like MSF2020 or Automobilista 2). Sure, each game can require a litte time until you found the optimal settings for it (especially demanding games like MSFS2020 or Automobilista 2), but it's not that bad. Even without VR you would need time to optimize the settings of a demanding game.
Changas settings according to the video (4090) 1- run it on Virtual Desktop 2-open Xr and adjust per eye resolution 3a- play Is there a difference on clarity and performance if I don’t have OpenXR? Instead, I have it regular with Virtual Desktop and the in game settings?
thanks for the video. basic question: how do you actually get the openxr tool to open so that you can do the resolution override? I'm struggling with that?
@@DavidBrown-tl3ft i run hevc 10 bit,high graphic settings and max birate and turn on the upscalling option.also got to make sure not much else is using the 5ghz band,one of our tv's use that band and if its on causes some stutters.also have it at 90fps
I have a 13900k and a 4090. Upgraded from 7900xtx. Msfs is worse with 4090. Nothing is sharp. I'm so frustrated. I'm thinking of returning the 4090 since I am getting worse performance than 7900xtx. And yes i used ddu in safe mode to uninstall amd drivers.
Did you manage to solve it? I replaced a 1080ti with a 7900XTX and it's a blurry-stuttery mess. I'm about to return the card and get a 4080s but your post has me concerned.
Genuinely curious: is there a good reason why this is being made so hard compared to all other types of games? I mean - if you play only MSFS2020 you can obviously go through these motions once, but if you want to alternate between this and other PCVR games, it is seriously so much hassle every time, in addition to setting up the flight controls, running the inevitable updates, etc., that I tend to not bother and just play a couple rounds Population One instead. :/
Settings here are aimed to be set and forget. They won't interfere with other games really. Also. Keep in mind MSFS is an extremely complex flight simulator mimicking real life. It's super hard for your computer to handle. Normal VR games well, you know.
Maybe search for Zotac 4090. I would prefer a Zotac. Much People say Zotac not good. But Funny is, with Zotac i had never Problems, but with other , for Example Gigabyte, i had.
Thank you for your great Videos. I think this is a massiv return. In G2 with 4090 and 7950X3d with TAA Buildings , Trees Ultra , Clouds Ultra, other High Terainlevel 200 to 225, Object Level 200. I have 50 to 60 Frames very smooth. OpenXR 150, And in OpenXR Toolkit the native Resolution from G2. If i must go back in MSFS so much, i think that not good for me. Ok i would have Pancakelenses and bigger FOV- but in Flightsim the Best Picture your System can give, is the important Thing. MSFS with Terainlevel of 120 looks not good. All what MSFS 2020 looks sooo good , goes away. Maybe i dont understand you right. I Think the G2 with Facemode works very well at this Time and have an Amazing Picture. Of course G2 have not Pancake, but Displaport:-) Crystal have a Premium Picture. But it is a massive Item. I think next year, other very good HMD comes out- maybe with loss weight, smaller and with same Resolution and FOV or bether than Crystal for less Price.
Have you found a setting that works for you? Please do share with the community! Have a great weekend all, stay safe and thankyou for your continued support.
Well, I suggest you avoid a router altogether, buy a Wifi 6 USB dongle like the Tp-link Archer, and connect directly the Q3 to the PC through a hotspot.
In my opinion here in msfs we have the most important setting for VR for cockpit inside feeling.
1. Shadow maps. You can set it “4096”in cfg file. You will get shadows like in real life. But i use 2048. In your setting its loo low! Shadows in cockpit very important, because its so close to your eyes.
2. Windshields effects only “ULTRA” for VR, because if use “high”, you got no reflections inside cockpit.
3. Reymached reflections “ULTRA”, see point number 2.
4. Light shafts on ULTRA, because if you set on HiGH, you lose a lot of effects like in leal life, when sun blinding you through mirrors inside cockpit. Its MUST only on ULTRA.
But. If you fly behind the plane these settings not important and can use medium.
Its have HUGE impact for Inside cockpit feeling.
Ambient occusion medium. If low, you also lose a lot.
But. I have 4090. For 3070 i think these settings too heavy
Make sure you don't have heavy 5ghz wifi traffic bottlenecking your performance. Especially if you live in an apartment complex. After getting a Wifi 6e router, wireless pcvr performance improved dramatically. The game fully playable in VR on my 3070 core i7 system. If you have a less powerful system but really want to do VR flight sim, Aerofly FS 4 has unbeatable VR performance, but you'll have to sacrifice on scenery detail and features.
@@andyakarudolfhessiansack7936 Welcome to the channel, this video will give you a good starting point.
@@khramovantonah What about a RTX 4060ti in a Ryzen 7?
been struggling for years with msfs and vr, finally had to buy a whole new setup with a 4080 and still had the same types of problems. This video literally gave me my first stutter free, screen tear free and CTD free flight in msfs after almost 4 years.
hey i also got a 4080 , i got no stutter at all. but ive found that the plane cockpit itself looks quiet good. but the outside invironment looks like lego blocks lol. do you have the same issue ?
@@basvh666this is inherently a bit of an issue with VR headsets but if the game has a view distance option want this as high as your computer can handle.
Good results with your setting for MSFS. Using a Quest 3, my PC is a 3060ti, i7 11700k, 32gb, with virtual desktop version 1.29.9, released today. Have a Tenda 6E access point located near my pc for 6 Ghz wifi. Good results using ultra setting with VD and openXR toolkit set with foveated rendering on performance/wide setting. Wifi connection seeing anywhere between 340-440 mbps using the 264+ codec.
WHAT resolution you using in Open xr and what graphics settings in VD. I have 3070 and just cannot get dialled in
@@DavidBrown-tl3ft Vary between high and ultra setting on VD, 72fps setting. MSFS had indicated resolution at 2496x2592 at 100 on res, with suggested 90 on TLOD and OLOD to account for lower spec graphics card. Did not override resolution in openxr toolkit (not running oculus tray tool). Processor 11700k overclocked at 4.4 Ghz. No overclock on graphics card. I have found results vary depending on aircraft and complexity of MSFS location. For example, a hawk T1 out of Queenstown gave fps 60-72 fps and latency of around 60ms, which I found acceptable. Hope this helps.
@@ianbrown2683 interesting not overriding resolution in Openxr. Will try that. Just cannot get above 33fps even with SSW and below 130 latency even with my 3070. Have you got any special settings in VD?
@@DavidBrown-tl3ft SSW set from VD. Only other factor I can think of is that my dedicated wifi 6E access point is connected via a netgear switch to my PC (internet connection is via another router) ,with short cat 6+ network cable lengths , minimising any local network latency.
@@DavidBrown-tl3ft Also, I set audio streaming on VD streamer at PC end to computer only, as use PC's sound system, not VR headset.
Fwiw - The 7800X3D+6000 ram can actually hit 72Hz on Quest 2/3; in most cases with lower quality. You still need a very strong GPU (4090 ideally) but MSFS is very CPU limited on a 4090.
THX a lot. I went with your recommendations for the 3070 and got finally a flyable VR experience.
Hello VR , found that turning the in game global graphic setting to high or Ultra then turning the terrain slider all the way down and objects slider all way down , things will look reasonable with good frame rate and smooth , from there move up your terrain and object sliders until you have the good balance.
Thanks for the shout out 😊 I’m using much the same, with CAS enabled in OpenXR.
I really appreciate this video, thank you. It annoys me when RUclipsrs say how amazing certain games are on their multi-thousand pound 13900k, 4090 PC's, when a very small percentage of their viewers will be running the same/similar specs. IMO it essentially renders the video pointless for everyone else. I have a Quest 3 but I've been struggling getting MSFS running well on it with my aged 8600k and 3080 PC. Hopefully these settings will help me, so thank you.
Did you try virtual desktop?
My 3080 Ti runs fine, use VDXR.
@@theegodelpozo Not as yet. That's my next mission when I get time.
@@jango71 Will do. Only just updated VD to the latest version which supports VDXR so will try that next when I get a chance.
Agreed.. they all running 4090 which will be trash in few month, when the next 50. gen drops, but yea, pew pew
IU have tried getting Virtual Desktop through the Meta store twice, and I could not get any version you have in this video, or the version 2 others had in their videos. And both times I could not get the desktop streamer that shows open xr in it, nor the new version, or beta of open xr to use with the desktop streamer. So both times I got a refund. I am using an RTX 3070 and a Quest 3, and with DLSS, the default settings VR settings with clouds to ultra and tress and building to high, and running the VR at 72 Hz, with open Xr at 36 FPS I am flying at 36 FPS with 5%-40% of headspace and it is buttery smooth withy no stutters and clear as my 1440p monitor. So I think I am done tweaking and chasing settings, until I upgrade to a 4090 I think I have found my VR sweet spot in MSFS. Thank you for the great video. The Oculus tray tool is set to 1.3 for SS.
Hi Steve. In msfs with oculus image can be totaly different in terms of sharpening settings. 1 month i spent ang got the best result
1. In sim settings sharpening is zero “0”
2. OpenXR sharpening in “CAS” mode, but keep it on Zero “0”. Cas mode get you a lot more details, but this is a lot “aliasing mode”and if you keep it on “0”, you are switching on the cas, but with almost no aliasing.
3. Oculus link sharpening “normal” , because off or quality settings get you same aliasing, but blurry image in my opinion. I dont see oversharp in normal mode.
What I noticed, oculus software or msfs conflict with sharpening and better switching off one of sharpening.
Try to play with it.
For VD this setting get me the best picture, but i prefer link beacuse it’s smoother
If use this settings, there is Almost No shimmering or Aliasing in TAA. If use DLSS(dlaa) its perfect. No shimmering or aliasing
If you can please experiment with all sharpening settings (msfs, oculus link and openxr) and make separate video only about sharpening. Because it the MUST important in terms if visual and you get so different look image if use CAS or NIS sharpening.
Thank you!
Thank you, your advice helped me to improve the visualization of the GPS panels with DLSS along with the great video of "VR Flight Sim Guy", with a modest Ryzen 5 5600x, DDR4 32 GB, RTX2080TI and Quest3
Greetings
I usually don’t comment but testifying that I can finally run vr smoothly even flying Fenix a320 on my 4080
Super video! Thanks so much for taking the time to put this together. I’ll certainly give these settings on a try. I’m using a 3080 so be interesting to see how close I can get to replicating this performance. I have to admit though that although not quite as detailed in terms of scenery with MSFS Aerofly 4 runs buttery smooth on Quest 3 on very high settings and is well with a look as an alternative
The virtual desktop settings and codec made a big improvement with my 3070 system! But I seem to have better performance using nvidia dlss set to performance. all other game settings you recommended im using. Looks and runs good enough that i dont need to drop 2 grand on a 4090.
Nice one Steve. I've been exploring using 120 Hz/fps in MSFS using the Quest 3 and I tell you what, it's a little bit magical. You do have to sacrifice some visual quality so you'll probably not like it but I definately feel the smoothness. Summary of my settings incase anybody else wants to try... PC 13900K RTX 4090 / Quest 3 / VD AV1 10bit, Godlike, 120Hz, ASW Always / MSFS High-End, Terrain Lvl Detail 135, DLSS Quality / OpenXR Tlkt Res 3300x3500, Locked 60
Also over cities? I tried 120hz as well yesterday with VD and the smoothness was really nice as you say it. However the picture quality is still better with link cable.i cannot decide on what I prefer ^^
No definately not over built up cities but it's not terrible, you just don't get 120 fps. I'm with you, I really like Steve's settings the clarity is much better but I also like it smooth. Still I find it fun to tweak. @@Jan-1337
Jfyi: The anisotropic filtering should be 16x in the nVidia settings, and OFF in the sim. And for 4090 and q3 users try override resolution in open xr toolkit set to 5800x6072. Let me know what you see ...
I remember trying this a while ago and didn't notice any difference on my system. But thanks for the tip for others to try.
@@VRFlightSimGuy you're welcome pal! Believe me, at least in the 4090 works better. Also noticed that you're turning OFF the texture supersampling. I wonder why and if you're not getting a terrible runway texture for example. I recommend 6x6 with the 4090 and anisotropic turned OFF while 16x in the nVidia control panel. I also recommend 120hz in virtual desktop, then motion reprojection ON (AKA Spacewarp). Don't ask me why but looks like that when you push the 4090 it works better. This way you can use openxr toolkit and choose a higher resolution without loosing performance.
I have 4090 strix/7800x3D, 32GB DDR5 coupled with quest 3 and Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS controller...and it is a dream in msfs 2020...
Have you tried playing with a halo style head strap, removing the facial interface and angling the lenses closer to your eyes? Ends up being a much wider FOV. Haven't measured it yet but the gain would be somewhere around 15-20 degrees more.
Helpful video, but where do you find open xr? Would have been good to share that info
If anyone is having issues lately with the OpenXR and FS2020, set the sim to use DirectX 11 instead of 12 and see if it works
Snap dragon super resolution does not work for Ultra or Godlike. It is upscaling but can only go to Ultra resolution so if you are at Ultra or higher no affect. .
Good video but could be a little clearer. Did you use ‘debug tool? You shifted to OpenVR. So at that point are you still using Oculus/ Debug tool? Clarity needed. But thanks.
Great video thanks. One change I made was not using Snap Dragon Super Resolution. If you’re already using Ultra or Godlike then there is nothing to upscale to.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks, that was very helpful. Just curious what was the supersampling setting in openxr you were able to push your 3070TI to ?
I have an HP Reverb G2 right now, with super easy to get up and running pretty much just plugged it in and was ready to go almost. How hard is the quest 3 to get up and running on my VR msfs? Is it pretty much plug and play and answer some questions and you are up and running? Thank you ahead of time
Hi Steeve, I had a suggestion as English is not my first language and probably a lot of subscribers as well. I would definitely appreciate a short video on the graphics settings terms and what it means. Ex : what is a glare? what is vertical async? SSW? Sharpening vs levels of details. I look at your videos with a lot of interest but I must admit I have no clue what most of the graphics options do in the settings is MsFs. Same goes for the NVidia control pannel options, XR toolkit. Or perhaps you have a link to understand all those terms? Cheers from Quebec!
thanks for the great video, Seeking advice from you:
I use Quest 3 + VD for wireless streaming to play DCS.
I've tried to lower the in-game settings of DCS, and currently, the frame rate and effects are basically satisfactory.
However, occasionally the 3D image on the Quest headset freezes while the image on the computer screen remains visible.
I have no choice but to force quit the game. It's very annoying, especially when trying to view the map with F10 during big missions.
I've already dedicated a great game wifi6 router for the computer and Quest headset, with the computer connected via Ethernet cable. It's confirmed to be a gigabit network.
I wonder if you have encountered this situation? The VD image quality is great, but it's just not stable. It's very frustrating.
Thank you all for your help!
My Computer specs: i5 12600 + 4060ti + 32GB RAM.
I switched to VD when they came out with VDXR
Yes the cable have a few advantage but the amount of fucking around with the oculus software end vs it just work... for 3ms saved was not worth it.
You do need to tweak your router properly for VD to work flawlessly.
Use a Wifi 6 AX1800 USB dongle and create a hotspot.
At 6:56 in the video you show a screen off Open XR Toolkit. My version of it is nothing like that it is the same version number but it is a white box like screen. How do you get that screen to show? Great video by the way some great info.
I have the Quest 3 for two days now. But i have to say, i am not very happy with the colors ether in X-Plane or MSFS. I was using the headset via link cabel only. I had the Rift S before. The colors where much better there, more natural. I think i will return the headset and try to find a headset with a displayport cabel.
Yeah I was thinking the same. have you seen the Pimax Crystal Light??? that looks good ;-
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@vrflightsimguy ok I've spent the last few days testing my Q3, and have come to a verdict. I'll be using the link cable and not VDXR. You'll never guess the main reason! The oculus software let's me set the horizontal fov multiplier to a value > 1 (1.2 in my case), and this removes the very annoying black edge that can be seen in the view when turning your head in VR (it's basically the edge of the screen that gets the edge of the rendered image shifted off of it). This one reason is enough to make the link cable the obvious choice for me. But with the 940Mbps hack, and supersampled resolution (on a 4070ti) it looks very sharp indeed! Also don't forget to update DLSS to the latest version!!! Overall a big improvement over the G2 imho (pretty happy not to have that tiny sweet spot anymore!)
Hi there @VR Flight Sim Guy, Amazing setup guide thanks so much. Followed every step and with some other tweaks for my system (7800x3d rtx4080 ddr5 cl30 6000) I figured the sweetspot between flying fenix / a300 / pmdg 737 and payware airports online with AIG manager ai traffic (massive on frames) couldn’t run at TAA without taking off with my PC. So I ran your setts for TAA on DLSS with some tweaks in OPENXR and the ODT and it is smooth! In de 737 I am even able to crank it all to ultra / sliders to the right but then fenix wise or a300.. men what a drop of frames and latency! So all at the safe middle side of things. Thanks so so much.
Just rest me one question, Nvidia Reflex Latency, is off at your video. Ive got it off. But what is the purpose or win for turning this on in VR? Haven’t really see big changes but it might be workable? Hope you could help me out on that!
Once again, thanks so much for a good basis on VR and the sim.!
Thankyou for your comments and I'm so glad my video has been helpful. I've tried it both on and off and it doesn't seem to make a huge difference. I would try turbo mode on and off in the open XR toolkit btw, it can give you a good performance boost when using link cable, depending on your hardware and GPU scheduling settings. Best wishes.
How the heck do you run link cable with virtual desktop?
You don't 🤔
Hi, thx for your Videos.
Whych CPU are u using in your 3070 ti machine??
I'm Struggeling to get performance. I f i Use open xr toolkit and increase resolution to the level of clarity ( definition that i want I go bellow 30 FPS and get a lot of stutters.
My machine is I7 8700 k and a 3090
Thx so much for your help
What CPU is used here? That matters just as much for MSFS VR as the GPU.
Pico 3 Neo Link or Quest 3 for MSFS? Is still better choise to keep PICO with direct GPU connection compare to better lenses?
Great info. Thanks. I'm thinking about upgrading to a 4080 soon and a new VR headset. It would be great to see a video of side by side comparison of the image quality/screen door effect for Pico 4, Quest 3, Crystal etc? I'm currently using an original Oculus Rift. I've never tried pancake lenses and I'm wondering how the screen door effect compares between them and my original Rift. Keep them coming. I had hoped to be passed screen door by this stage.
Helpful comment: there is no more screen door effect on these newer devices. FYI the Crystal is clear but I did not like it for (1) weight), (2) distorted edges, (3) seemed only suited to seated simulators and wasnt very stable on my head. (4) that heavy battery pack. .. If you are going into that range I would highly recommend the Varjo Aero.. So easy to use, best quality lenses and internal cooling to clear up lense fog. I use one with a 4090 & 64memory and run MSFS, DCS and IL-2 all in highest quality settings, with not skipped frames whatsoever. I think the 4080 would actually do just as well with current software. Note though you will need outside trackers with the Varjo.
I still own the Rift CV1, it's gone out to the family and come back the last couple of months since i bought the Quest 3. I would say checkout Tyriel Wood's video of the Quest Pro/Quest 2/Quest 3 through the lens if you want to see the screendoor effect (SDE). It is noticable on the Quest 3, oddly it's more noticable in MSFS on stuff further away and the cockpit representation is absolutely fine. Much better than the CV1 but you can tell the colours are not completely solid in areas but it's ok just don't expect objects in the distance to appear sharp
Compared to other headsets, I've tried the Quest 2 and Pico 4 and both are much better for SDE than the Quest 3. Unfortunately it's the worst of the modern headsets for this effect, on par with the Quest Pro. Higher end headsets I don't own but you shouldn't have any SDE with the Bigscreen Beyond, Crystal or Aero, HP G2.
Despite the SDE for the Quest 3, it's not a deal breaker for me and the lenses are sensational - undoubtly the reason why SDE exists in the Quest 3 to begin with as they are super sharp across the whole display. Coming from the CV1 I had no idea about edge to edge clarity as the CV1 is supprisingly uniform but not particularly clear to begin with. Headset's like the PSVR 2 and G2 have horrible sweatspots eyes need to be in the exact position to see clearly and both suffer from poor edge to edge clarity.
@@dtrjones I agree SDE is overblown.
I "upgraded" from a rift-s to Quest 3 and clarity is definitely better. SDE is still noticeable to me but it's pretty minor. Quest 3 is not comfortable at all though compared to my perfectly fitting rift-s that I can wear all day if I wanted. You will need to invest in a new premium strap. Also battery packs if you don't want to be hooked to the wire a lot. One thing I don't care for about the Quest 3 is the darkening around the edges of the lenses. My rift-s is consistent brightness clear to the edge. I started out with Rift CV1, any of these newer headset are going to blow you away with the clarity improvement. Colors will not be as good on the LCD based units though.
I was looking to buy the Quest 3, but the problem is that first you say its no good then on another video you say its brilliant! so do i buy one or not!!!
Get it. You will die waiting.
I'm curious about which openxr runtime to use. Steam or Oculus? When I enabled Oculus it looked quite bad. Steam was fine.
My wifi is 5ghz but is far away and not being able to use a cable to have a good connection. How can I use this settings but via link cable?
Yeah, i didn't test extensively but it did feel smoother.
VDXR works :) Now all i want is to figure out which other games are supporting openXR.
I don't have good experience with the openXR toolkit, to me it felt like it was slowing down my system.
I am more a fan of the Oculus Tray Tool, with the ASW settings and supersampling.
But to be fair, the openXR toolkit is for me a new a tool and i dont know the right settings for it. Also, my pc is running VR like never before. SO i don't feel the need to experiment with the toolkit.
atm my MSFS2020 settings are on the high preset and i tuned down the uu... uhm... lol.... uu.. the object detail settings, i think? Default is 100, i set that to 80. And it runs smooth, i have 1 setting that i want to set on Ultra, and those are the clouds. But... my computer doesn't like that... hehe
My bottleneck is my cpu.
i7 7700k@5Ghz
RTX 3080 12GB
32 Ram
Thanks for the video, but I'm confused... the best way to go is with Virtual Desktop but via WIFI, not cable? Is not cable the way to obtain the best quality?
Thanks for this video! With that configuration rtx3070ti and meta quest 3, can you get small letters/numbers in the glass cockpit readable?
I have rrx3080 and am looking for some vr headset for FS2020. Budget for vr is like 500 ish USD. Which one would you recommend? Thank you!
quest 3 imo
in OpenXR Tookit 3500 x 3800 its impossible for a 5800x3d and 4070 ti, i have 25 fps...
Can you make a new settings guide for reverb g2 aswell ?
Do you have any settings for Quest 3 and Laptop MSI, GE78 HX, 13V, 4080?
Perfect been waiting for this! are you gonna do a similar one for DCS as well?
That's the plan!
I dont have a q3 but watched anyway to pick up any tips 👍
why is your bitrates on VD is low? Is it better than higher? I have mine set to max on all bitrate
Do you use the same Virtual Desktop streaming settings for both graphics cards ?
Thanks for this - goes a long way to help me choose a new VR headset after using a Rift 2 - saying that I have 32GB RAM with a 2070 Super card and an i7-9700K CPU - do you think I can upgrade from my rift to a q3 easily?
You would have to turn the render resolution down alot, probably not worth upgrading to the q3
Hi, I have got the same set up you use and have replicated your settings and graphics are now brilliant with the quest 3. Recently though on link cable after a while I get in essence a split screen, dark above and light below or if I look behind it gradually it crosses a line from dark to light!! Any advice would be appreciated. Also I’m convinced my norm has a blue hue to it…
Very helpful guide, thanks!
When you are saying you get the clearness of the G2 with the Quest 3, do you mean tge sweetspot of the G2 all over the FOV?
As a user of the Q3 I can say Yes, all over the FOV.
@@Tygrmoth wow. Absolutely amazing. Ive tried G2 and the clarity at the sweetspot was unbelievable. Having that all over the FOV must be unreal🤩 what specs are u running? Im about to start my build and DCS VR adventure for the first time and Im really wondering if 4090 is a must or 4080 is almost as good
I'd personally say the clarity in the centre point of the Reverb G2 is a bit sharper, but of course, the Quest 3 has edge to edge clarity which, if you can up the resolution, looks fabulous. Keep in mind though, the image quality will always suffer overall due to the lack of DP connection.
@@VRFlightSimGuy That last sentence is what makes it so difficult to decide. But I think I'll go for Q3. That edge to edge, and "just a bit" less sharp than the tiny sweetspot in G2 does it.... I think... 🤣
Sooo much colour in that pc. 😎
It's one year old today too! Best system I've ever had to date!
@@VRFlightSimGuyhappy birthday to it! 🎉🎉🎉
Great video and thanks again. Is there anywhere one could go to get a printed version of all these settings. Although its greatly appreciated, it is also time consuming and frustrating to stop/start the video to get the settings.
Great video, as always! Lord knows I needed it haha.
My pleasure dude. I hope it helps, although it not gonna make walking around in your Quest 3 any clearer 😅
Why can’t I cut and paste into the max bit rate setting in Oculus Toolkit like you did in the video. I tried Adminstrator. Currently limited to 500 which still gives too much CPU latency which is limiting my 4090 and limiting use of better settings. Despite 13900k 32Gb and RTX 4090 still cannot get all ultra and 45 frames.
will the 3070 settings work with a Quest 3, i7-9700, 32mg ram, 2080TI gpu set up ?? ( or would i need to tone them all down) new to VR and trying to figure this setup out :) thnx for any input.
My 3060 and the quest 3 pair quite well but I'm going to try some of these settings
what is your settings?
When you are using Airlink connected to PC via link cable do you start MSFS and then switch to VR just using the oculus app ? I’m on a Pico 4 atm and it was working fine with VD but something has gone really wrong and considering getting a Quest 3
Regards using a 3070 what display resolution per eye setting dis you go to in Open Xr
Thanks VRFSG for this great content on your channel!
I can reach about 40fps with max settings (except clouds set to High) and high terrain lod with a 3090, DLSS/quality, and my Reverb G2. 30 to 34fps with TAA. On bush flying. The small sweet spot is not an issue anymore for me, as I have a improved it and got used to it. So is it right to say that I can get the same shapness but better FPS with a reverb G2 and DLSS/quality, with my 3090?
GPU scheduling indices stutter for me. I kept the quest 2 for MSF2020 since I was disappointed with display colours on the quest 3. But since changing the sharpening to quality and adjusted the render resolution. I was pleasantly surprised with the results. Still need to tweak the settings to get the photorealism I had on the quest 2. The oversaturated blue is noticeable on the Q3.
if you compare q2 and q3 - is it worth the change? running Ryzen 9 6900HS with amd 6800s
Nice video, thanks, can you tell me where I can find information how to setup the quest 3 for VR in msfs2020? I'm a newcomer to VR and apparently I can't manage to dive into a cockpit in VR...
Same here…I don’t know where to start. It seems like a lot of these videos are geared towards people that are just tweaking…I haven’t found anything that is a basic how to guide.
How bad do you think the performance of the Varjo aero would be on a 2080ti. Specifically for dcs.
In order to run MSFS outside Steam, is there a shortcut? Or do I have to re-install it and start over?
I start it from VD games menu.
ive got a 13th gen i5 13400, rtx4060 and a 350w PSU and that somehow someway runs msfs on ultra at 30-50 fps with no stutters or crashes.
i not a vr user but can you reduce the frame rate in msfs to 50% instead of having it 100%.just a thought for 3070
Thanks for the video! You mentioned asynchronous space warp with the link cable but how do you enable it? I only have that option for virtual desktop not link?
Where are the Quest 3 settings for DCS? 🙂
Very good video! HOWEvER - I am beset with the "No VR Device detected" error in MSFS after changing from Reverb G2 to Meta Quest 3 (Airlink). RegEdit entry is correct, reinstallation of Oculus unsuccessful. Has anyone had this experience and found a solution?
Would these settings and performance be comparable when using the Pico 4? Cheers
Very similar yes
I see people recommending a lot less than the 940 bitrate, even as low as 250. For me, I don't see any difference between 250, 500, and 940 though. I was using an Odyssey+ for years, ever since they were released, actually, and even at 1.0 SS on the Quest 3, it's so much sharper than the O+, I don't even feel the need to turn it up any.
Do you enable HAGS in TAA mode on 4090?
Also, Synchronous Space Warp (SSW) in Virtual Desktop & Asynchronous Space Warp (ASW) in the Oculus Utility are two different things.
For the Quest 3, yes.
I tried ssw but found I got that high frequency “shivering “ a bit like yours at 8:40. Otherwise it was clearer. Can that be fixed ?
Very good video 👌🏼
Thanks buddy
Im getting weird bar of shimmering in the upper left of the screen with my Quest 3. Has anyone experienced this and have a fix. Rest of the experience is great!.
Yes, the video i've been waiting for!
Remember: you can never have too many Strats!
This Virtual Desktop thing is only working wireless? Is there no possibility to use MSFS with a cable without SteamVR?
Just got a quest 3 and a moza setup on the way, but i got a feeling the time i have to spend on getting the right settings will take the fun out of it. Sad. I have watched soo many videos and read shitton about the subject, but seems like every person has their own opinions, soo there is not 1 right way to do it.
@@R-py6uf It's not that complicated. The videos are more or less telling all the same. For a cable connection (what I'm using) you only need a couple of settings in the Oculus Debug Tool (for the streaming) and the OpenXR Toolkit for the games that support it (like MSF2020 or Automobilista 2). Sure, each game can require a litte time until you found the optimal settings for it (especially demanding games like MSFS2020 or Automobilista 2), but it's not that bad. Even without VR you would need time to optimize the settings of a demanding game.
Outstanding
Changas settings according
to the video (4090)
1- run it on Virtual Desktop
2-open Xr and adjust per eye resolution
3a- play
Is there a difference on clarity and performance if I don’t have OpenXR? Instead, I have it regular with Virtual Desktop and the in game settings?
thanks !
You're welcome!
thanks for the video. basic question: how do you actually get the openxr tool to open so that you can do the resolution override? I'm struggling with that?
Ctrl + F2 while in VR
With a 3070 would you say its an upgrade from G2 regards clarity
Iv got a 2080ti with g2 and quest 3,it runs abit better on quest 3 for me with the same clarity but with much bigger sweetspot
@@robertmcmahon4549 thanks. Quest 3 just arrived see how it goes
@@robertmcmahon4549 what setting you running on quest app and virtual desktop?
@@DavidBrown-tl3ft i run hevc 10 bit,high graphic settings and max birate and turn on the upscalling option.also got to make sure not much else is using the 5ghz band,one of our tv's use that band and if its on causes some stutters.also have it at 90fps
I have a 13900k and a 4090. Upgraded from 7900xtx. Msfs is worse with 4090. Nothing is sharp. I'm so frustrated. I'm thinking of returning the 4090 since I am getting worse performance than 7900xtx. And yes i used ddu in safe mode to uninstall amd drivers.
Did you manage to solve it? I replaced a 1080ti with a 7900XTX and it's a blurry-stuttery mess. I'm about to return the card and get a 4080s but your post has me concerned.
Im sorry but with 90 LOD you can t see 40 miles away . always buffering . so too imersive lost in my opinion
you have "PC Asynchronous Spacewarp" on disabled in your ODT settings. should I set it to "auto" to take effect? Thanks :)
If you'd like to try ASW, I'd recommend setting it to always enabled
Genuinely curious: is there a good reason why this is being made so hard compared to all other types of games? I mean - if you play only MSFS2020 you can obviously go through these motions once, but if you want to alternate between this and other PCVR games, it is seriously so much hassle every time, in addition to setting up the flight controls, running the inevitable updates, etc., that I tend to not bother and just play a couple rounds Population One instead. :/
Settings here are aimed to be set and forget. They won't interfere with other games really. Also. Keep in mind MSFS is an extremely complex flight simulator mimicking real life. It's super hard for your computer to handle. Normal VR games well, you know.
Wonderful! I sitll need to get a 4090 FE somehow. THey are hard to find again. What about Gigabyte 4090 OC instead?
I can't comment on GPU brands I haven't tried sorry. I hope the video is helpful!
Maybe search for Zotac 4090. I would prefer a Zotac. Much People say Zotac not good. But Funny is, with Zotac i had never Problems, but with other , for Example Gigabyte, i had.
when using quest 3 in msfs my monitor shows the display from both lenses. is it possible to get the monitor to show full screen?
you need to use Oculus mirror, also if you run your mouse top left corner you will get options to stabilize the image inside oculus mirror
How do you launch the game from VD and it go into VR correctly???
Launch from the games tab inside of VD headset application. Left controller action button to bring up the menu.
@@skrems weird, it doesn't show up in the games tab. That isn't for Steam only or something is it? I have the stand alone version.
Maybe - I only have the steam version. @@pchappy2.0
So, we need a PC to run flight sim on quest? Cant we play on cloud?
No. It is PCVR.
Yes can can with shadow PC power upgraden and you have a A4500 similar to a 3070TI
I’m running a 4090 with a 7950X. Even with this tutorial, the performance is atrocious. I returned it and went back to my Reverb G2.
only 30k subs? why?!
Seems to need buy a pcvr
Open XR 🎉
Anyone have settings for a 4070 super?
Thank you for your great Videos. I think this is a massiv return. In G2 with 4090 and 7950X3d with TAA Buildings , Trees Ultra , Clouds Ultra, other High Terainlevel 200 to 225, Object Level 200. I have 50 to 60 Frames very smooth. OpenXR 150, And in OpenXR Toolkit the native Resolution from G2. If i must go back in MSFS so much, i think that not good for me. Ok i would have Pancakelenses and bigger FOV- but in Flightsim the Best Picture your System can give, is the important Thing. MSFS with Terainlevel of 120 looks not good. All what MSFS 2020 looks sooo good , goes away. Maybe i dont understand you right. I Think the G2 with Facemode works very well at this Time and have an Amazing Picture. Of course G2 have not Pancake, but Displaport:-) Crystal have a Premium Picture. But it is a massive Item. I think next year, other very good HMD comes out- maybe with loss weight, smaller and with same Resolution and FOV or bether than Crystal for less Price.
The Quest 3 is a great product. However, with MSFS, I spend waaay more time setting it up/tweaking than actually sim(ing). I’m returning it.