Shout outs to Coach Grant at First Down Training, he's awesome. Your "terrible" throw of 35 yards is better than my 30 yard max throw that I actually spent an entire summer working on.
I normally don't post on RUclips, but you're not getting your hips through before your shoulder. Try standing perpendicular to the target. Then, don't just step forward. Rather, Step slightly left of your target (maybe a 30 degree angle) as you pull the ball back. This will open up your hips. Then, as you bring your arm through (keeping your triceps parallel with the ground), angle your right knee towards the front and transfer your weight through to the front foot. Remember to pull your left elbow through. You can feel it creating a catapult motion in your shoulders. You can practice this without throwing the ball. A spiral is caused by the approach you took in this video, but nothing your are doing is generating more power.
Stepping left of the target is a great idea. I'm going to try that. Yeah I get the concept that my hips need to generate the power but when I try to put any power on the ball my hips and shoulders turn at the same time. It's so annoying. This is great advice though. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it!
@@JakeFerrin The way I visualize it that really helps is to think of your body as a whip, starting from your feet and cracking at the ball. The better you get at your motions, the quicker you can transition from feet to knees, to hips, to waist, to chest, to arm all the way to the ball, making it less exagerated and more compact and powerful, but you gotta commit and give it time practicing it piece by piece, otherwise muscle memory can't develop.
@@JakeFerrin For sure. It would be good to get a coach to help you out. I was a wide-receiver in 7th, 8th, and 9th grade. I could catch the ball but couldn't throw it to save my life. When I was moved to QB I was taught how to throw a ball, and then told to practice everyday over the summer. By the end of the summer I was able to throw, with good form, and much more accurately than I had been able to throw just a few months before. Form is everything when throwing a football, power is important but its useless if you don't know how to get the ball where you want it in the first place.
@@JakeFerrin as a senior in high school, and after 2 years of weightlifting and training, I could only throw the ball 50 yards. Our starting varsity QB could throw it 55 yards, and he had been a QB since 7th or 8th grade. So don't sweat it, throwing an accurate 35 yarder is much more impressive IMO
I always told myself if I ever hit the lotto, I'd spend time learning all the things like this I never got formal training in as a kid. Played WR so just had to worry about catching passes. Crazy how Mike Vick just flicks his wrist and the ball launches 50 yards effortlessly. Great video
I’m in the area if you ever wanted help (I’ve been a HS QB coach). Honestly hitting 40 yards would be pretty impressive - most people can’t throw a ball 40+ yards. Forms looking awesome for someone just starting!
Breaking down your throwing motion was a good idea. Someone below pointed out to rotate your shoulders. I agree. Creating torque would generate more power. Try this 5 minutes a day. Exchange your front and back foot by facing 90 degrees left of the target. Your right foot will be closer to the target and your left foot would be further. Now point your right toe towards the target. Only your right toe. Then face in the direction of the target by opening up your hips towards it. Your weight will be mainly on your right foot and you'll be balancing on your left toe. Now bring the ball back near your right shoulder by twisting your upper body clockwise. Then let it fly. You can feel the release of the torque and your shoulders are already rotating.
I can't tell you how much I enjoyed your video!! A couple of years ago, just like you (but at the age of 40...) I was determined to be able to throw a good spiral without any football background whatsoever. Since then I watch ALL the videos that come out. And each year I get better (I think!). I focus a lot on the hip rotation, my wrist, extension of the arm, balance, sometimes the little "Aaron Rodgers popstep", it helps to throw further... I'm amazed that you were able to improve this much in only 4 days. ✊
Thank you! Yeah I don't think you have to just accept that you're bad at things. If you put in four days of research and practice you can get way better! And that just sets you up to work on it throughout your life and you appreciate a solid throw a lot more. Cool that you're working on your throw too! Thanks for the comment brother👊🏻
Great start to your journey of Quarterbacking, know that the journey never ends. You’ll be sitting in your couch and just randomly start throwing. You’ll dream of throwing. You’ll even throw non football things like they’re footballs. All until you reach the final stage, tweaking the conventional ways of throwing to find your own throwing motion. You’ll either do that hop like Rodgers, Pat that shit down like Tom, or go full Rivers
Hey man, stoked to see video 2. I have thrown just about every ball there is and have pretty decent range. Looking at your throwing motion you have the right thought process but you're treating your arm almost more like a shotput throw, like your pushing the ball instead of slinging it. In the clips you had, you hear the coaches say "let's go sling it", that's because a football throw is more like a slingshot. You use your hips to build the power and your arm is slung forward by the momentum built from your feet, through your hips, shoulders and down your arm. It's not a shove or a push. A good way to get the feel would be to stand with your feet shoulder width apart, arm held out straight out to your side, and then twist at your hips really fast. You should feel your arm drag behind and then sling forward when you stop your hip rotation. That's pretty similar to the feeling of a really well thrown ball. Also, your release angle can effect your shoulder getting sore. Try for a more straight above your head release angle rather than more side arm motion you're using now. Last, you want your hand as far away from your body as possible when you release the ball. It's the longest pendulum you can create, and that speed you generate is amplified by how far away from your body the ball is at release. Best of luck slinger!
Thank you for breaking it down, this is awesome. I'll go mess around with it today. I actually think I've improved a lot since doing the video. I'm going to do the part 2 soon. Thanks again for the comment!
Have you ever played baseball before? I was watching this and thinking that the main thing I am seeing is your arm doesn’t looked relaxed when you are throwing, it looks like you are whipping it way too far into body and then in turn your body is kinda tilting to the left and everything seems thrown off. Personally what I think could help would be just throwing around a baseball a bit and working on getting that arm farther out and more relaxed to where it’s really gonna roll off your fingertips and fly. Another thing to think about is you should start out turned about 45 degrees to the right of your target and try to think about your upper torso like a teeter totter. When you go to throw the left arm needs to swing back a bit which will naturally throw the other one farther forward. I hope this helps 👍
Great video can't wait for part2, congrats on the improvement. I noticed two things about your throwing motion that will make you throw farther if you fix it, the first thing is that you're not extending on release and the second is that your hips are a little off timing, which makes you lose torque, you should rotate your hips while getting you're shoulders back
Just turned 47, and still qb flag teams. Used to be able to throw it 60+ but now barely hit 50 yards anymore. Still got accuracy and velocity. Weird that I lost over 10 yards on my deep ball. Anyway, I thought you were sandbagging us when you showed the day before drills into the trampoline. I’ll have to watch it again, but at first glance, your motion looked really smooth. Whenever it does click for you, it’ll be like riding a bike. You’ll be slinging it with velocity, even when you get up there in age
Thanks for all of this footage you got! I have a similar goal to hqve that perfect arching spiral fly half a field. It would be so rewarding. I started practicing my release again as home physicl therapy for an old shoulder injury from a car accident and i will say, lay on your back and practice throwing that spiral up and back down to yourself. You don't need much room or a partner and you also get to practice your receiving hands. Its been doing a lot for my release angle and also helping my injury. Peace and love, brother!
I love watching people develop their throwing mechanics… if I can say anything, instead of your left arm guiding your throw, you’re keeping it tucked. Extend that left arm and reach out to where you want to throw, and then let that throwing arm come through! Give it a try and let me know if that helped at all.
Pull the ball, dont push.. hips rotate then, shoulders rotate to pull the ball to your target wherever your lead foot is pointing. At the release, your index finger side of your hand should end at you hip/quad at the opposite hip for a clean spiral (index finger should be the last thing on the ball)
ensure your elbow is above your shoulder on release, make sure you are using rotation as opposed to pushing the ball, this can be done by making sure the hip rotates as soon as the weight transfers from the back foot to the front foot. to put that into perspective the hip should start rotating through just before the arm comes forward or is in the "L" position
Just a heads up: it's very hard to throw 50 yards. Watch arena football, the field is only 50 yards long, and you dont see throws the entire length of the field as much as you'd think
Im pretty good at throwing spirals, and throwing/hitting a baseball, even though I didn't grow up in the US/play those sports as a child. The reason: I played golf. The biomechanics are the same. Forget about the ball/club in your hand and just focus on the hip rotation. The hips will pull your upper body through and guide your arm. This applies for all throwing and hitting sports (and even punching). Have your knees slightly bent, and feel as though you are pushing off the ground with the ball of your back foot when you turn. Over time, you will feel as though you can turn until your belt buckle faces the direction you are throwing before your shoulder or arm even begin to move. That whipping motion also creates the power you need.
Yeah I'm starting to realize why I'm bad at golf, throwing and punching. I never learned how to generate rotational power. I think I'm figuring it out though. I need to go test the throw again. Thanks for the comment. I'm going to try your tips out!
Super late comment but the thing that messes a lot of people up is when they hear "follow through across your body." This only works if your arm slot is roughly a 3/4 to side-arm arm slot. The follow-through needs to be basically the same angle as your arm slot. If you throw overhand, it needs to be damn-near straight down, if you throw a 3/4 slot it needs to be diagonal across your body, if you throw side-arm it, your follow through needs to come horizontally across your body. This is because you need to keep your arm on the same plane the entire throw. If it moves off the plane, it's gonna push the back of the ball causing it to wobble. Also if you short-arm the throw instead of releasing on extension, your arm is going to be off-plane, pushing the back of the ball causing it to wobble as well. You need to be almost fully extended before you actually pronate your wrist and let go I'm sure you've even felt better throwing a spiral when your arm was extended than bent. Als,o I wonder if you played baseball (I did which made it hard for me to throw a football at first) because it looks like you flick your wrist like a 4-seam while pronating This also pushes the back of the football. If you had a splint on your wrist, you would still be able to throw a football because your wrist is rotating not flicking. Pronating is a finessee that you have to get the feel of. The best way I can describe it is that it's like grazing the size of a football with a certain authority. It's like spinning a small bike tire but with your pointer finger, you have to get just the right angle with just the right amount of strength.
If your right arm was further back... Try facing 90 degrees to the right, so your left shoulder points toward the target, and hold your right out All-The-Way to the right. From here, slowly go through the entire motion. [throw 10' again and again] Once it becomes fluid, speed up incrementally. Looking forward to part-2👍
just a tip, to throw further, don't try and force it. the smoother your release, the better. the faster the ball spins, generally, the further it will go. kind of like how in boxing, if you wind up too much, you'll lose power.
Good stuff. I did the same thing a few years ago. Did a deep dive on a bunch of instructional vids. Do you play golf? One thing I learned is that it's very similar to the golf swing. 1m35 seconds in your video talks about lower body/hip/shoulder sequencing. Just like the golf swing, it's all timing of sequence based. That said, it's easier said than done. One other thing I did was buy five cheaper composite footballs and a target. Makes practice by yourself a lot easier.
Yeah, way easier said than done. I've always been terrible at golf and I'm realizing that's why. But I do think I'm starting to figure out the hip rotation so I'll probably do a part 2 soon. I'll have to look into a target and some cheaper balls. Thanks for the comment 👊🏻
Throwing this ball is mental as well just make the far throw as if you would make it if it was short Yk, don’t get in your head and think it’s far just do it like you have before
lool, i did the same as you, i watch evbery and i mean every video i can get. how to throw that damn spiral.... so good to see your video, and i recognize the same youtube videos as i watched before ;) keep going
bro its not only technique its also muscle strenght. if your shoulder starts to compensate your shoulder stability is propably not high enough to deal with the lower body impulse. start with strength training then go into mobility + core stability then you can propably start technique. its not that you cant learn it the other way around but thats how i would start.
Boy do I wish I could’ve helped you and caught the ball for you. I am always begging my brothers to play catch with the football😂. I can throw it about 40-50 yards with a good spiral and I’m only 16, hoping I can improve and throw it farther. I am watching the video now and I am rooting for you I hope you get it!
I'm a pretty young qb but I know a thing or 2 about throwing a football. I'll tell you your flaws in your throwing motion, 1, bring your elbow way higher. It should be at least above the shoulder when throwing. 2, your foot you put your weight on can be a little bit behind you, but if its too far behind you all your power is lost and you're throwing all arm. 3, I would stop worrying about getting a good spiral, as long as your throwing motion is correct the wrist flick will come in naturally. But to throw a spiral just keep your wrist strong throughout the entire throwing motion. 5, bring your left arm closer to your face, act like your eating a sandwich. It'll make you more accurate and improve your throwing motion drastically. Sorry for rambling but I want you to be proud of your arm strength. Have a good one!
Ok bro, I watched you snap your hips and shoulders with the lacrosse ball, do the same thing with a football. Power or distance comes from there whether it’s Football, Golf or Baseball. However, the biggest thing that I see is your throwing arm is dropping almost below your neck, so it’s almost as if you’re throwing a pop-up. Remember this start from the ear, start your throw from your ear. so take the ball bring it up to your ear released from there, your hand should be in a backward C formation step into the throw, using your hips. Your throw is starting from your shoulder, almost as if you were trying to throw side armed. As a drill, pretend you are taking a snap having two hands on the ball take a three step.drop Bring the ball to your ear, elbows up, step into the with one arm, as you release the ball you’re throwing arm should come across your body. I’m pretty sure you got a lot of great advice. However, this is the mechanics for throwing properly is 10 yards or 50. Hope I helped.
You need to keep 2 hands on the ball and keep it up by your ear. Then coil your hips back, and release the ball over the top like a volleyball serve. Believe me, you’ll get 10 extra yards
i really like this but try and move ur hips more and when your going to throw higher and farther make sure almost all of ur weight is on ur back leg and ur rotating ur hips i play football w my friends so i learn a-lot from them so i hope this helps
Well ur ball is just but when u bring ur arms up and ur elbow up u should get more space on that throw because its too close and u cant generate power if ur arm is that close
Most of what you accomplished in four days was refining your throwing motion. Your current distance throws simply means you are at your current physiological limit. Your max POTENTIAL is going to take much longer than 4 days to reach. This applies to all ballistic sports (tennis, baseball, hockey, javelin, etc). So, when looking at say pro tennis players, you will notice their primary racquet arm and shoulder is noticeably bigger, more developed than their non raquet arm. Perhaps a better goal than discrete 50 yards would instead be, whatever the max potenial is after a period of months (eg, might end up being say 60 yards). To accelerate your development, you can do a lot of throwing reps with objects heavier than about 1 lb (just over 14 to 15 oz weight of an official game football). Get some 2 and 3 lbs mini dumbells and practice your throwing motion with them (without actually throwing them). "Throw" the dumbells at full power, max velocity, until the arm and shoulder get a little sore and weak (say 100 reps total). Start with heavier dumbell and finish with the lighter one. After 1 or 2 days rest and recovery, do the throwing reps again or practice throwing footballs instead. Do this cylce of train and recovery until you reach your goal or lose interest. As the weeks and months go by, you will see your throwing range increase. Eventually though, you will reach your absolute limit (who knows, perhaps 65 yards?). Good luck!
Loved the video, but you shouldn't try to apply more force, you should just try tilting your throwing shoulder slightly down and turning the ball slightly up, it'll go further naturally. Dimes video really helped me, watch it and maybe it'll help you too.
Working on my form and I came across this video. Really the only reason you didn't throw for 50 is because you didn't train to throw for 50. You worked on your mechanics short range but not long. You have to tilt the shoulders back to adjust the angle, otherwise you're putting more pressure on your shoulder and arm to life the ball. By tilting you can release the ball with good timing and it still has the lift, but you don't need the same amount of umph. It's been 9 months so you probably already learned all your mistakes though lol. Your form was so much better in just 4 days man, awesome video.
I appreciate it man. Yeah I'm going to do a followup up at some point. I think I've improved a lot since then but I haven't re-tested the 50 yard throw. I'm saving that for the part 3 video.
How to throw a football 1. A position- It all starts with your base and your body position before you even throw the ball. Feet shoulder with apart with 60% of your weight under your back leg. A relaxed ball carriage with the ball resting against your chest and nose of the ball while slightly pointing out. You should have a firm wrist meaning they shouldn’t be bending either too much forward or backwards. Your wrist will stay in this position throughout the whole process of throwing the ball. 2. Stepping to load- While keeping your weight under you, you will take a slight step forward and to your left of your midline. make sure to not over stride so that your weight shifts forward, your weight should stay under your back leg. Also make sure you don’t open your foot towards your target, instead point your toes to your target. As you step to load you will separate your hands now just holding the ball with your right hand. Your left hand should mirror your right hand, but you just don’t have the ball in your left hand other than that they should look the same. As you do this close your shoulder towards your Target and at the same time start to open your hips. 3. Unwinding- In this step you will now be transferring your weight from your back leg to your hips then to your upper body all the way to the ball. It is crucial that you stay light on your front foot, meaning making sure your heel stays out of the ground and you are pivoting on the ball of your foot. This helps with keeping your weight under you as you rotate. Another important factor is your back leg. While unwinding it shouldn’t flip over and swinging forward it should stay back and actually slightly go behind you. This happens at the same time you pivot on your front foot. At the same time, you will start to transfer your weight to your hips and open them up to your target. Your upper half will start to open as well, but it won’t open completely until you release the ball. So, make sure you keep a firm front shoulder and don’t allow it to just swing open as you open your hips. Also make sure to keep your left hand in a relaxed closed fist position in front of or touching your chest as if you were holding a microphone to talk into. With your right arm you will now start to bring your elbow forward with the ball trailing it, the ball should be at or behind your ear. Making sure your elbow is even or slightly above your shoulder. All of this should be done with leveled shoulders and without leaning out to your left. 4. Releasing the ball- This is the step where everything comes together, and it should look effortless. You have transferred your weight to Your hips, and they have opened. The weight from your hips has been transferred to your upper body and your chest has finally opened with hips, your shoulders and chest are now parallel to your target. When you release the ball, you will still be light on your front foot and your back leg will stay back. It is only after the ball has come out that your heel will touch the ground and your back leg can swing forward, but making sure not to swing forward passed your front foot because this will mean you're pushing off instead of rotating your body. As for your upper half you must maintain leveled shoulders and reach full extension of your arm. Your elbow should come first then your forearm should trail it finally catching up giving you that flick of the wrist motion. As for your wrist, it shouldn’t move at all like we talked about in step 1 your wrist should stay in that firm straight position until the very moment the ball comes off your fingers. To throw a good spiral you must get the nose of the ball pointing forward, reaching full extension will help with this. Also, when releasing the ball instead of trying to flick your wrist and pointer finger down resulting in the palm of your Hand facing outwards to your right try to imagine yourself unscrewing a light bulb on the ceiling. This will get the nose of the ball pointing forward giving you a clean spiral with a high spin rate. Didn’t touch on everything here but I Hope this helps
Make sure you have a little gap between your hand and ball and put your fingers on the laces make the ball spin of your hand and tap the ball before you throw like tap the ball first and then throw the ball but I am 10 and I can throw but make sure if your arm is like and step where you want to throw now I am going to go bye
Fix that elbow!!! I was a reciever in high school and had to come in at qb after ours got injured. I learned the importance of elbow position, wrist flick, and fast and powerful hip rotation
Hey Jake, did you get it done? Is your right arm still sore? Throwing 50 yards is a difficult task even for some teenagers. The comment you left at the end of the video gave me some clue. You said you had a sore shoulder. I guess you're using too much of your arm strength and not generating enough power from your lower body. We have our biggest muscles in our thighs and butts. Bend your back knee about 90 degrees and put 90% of your weight on the inside of your back foot. Kick off of your back foot(toes) and transfer all your weight to the front foot while rotating your hips. It's called a ground reaction force. You'll easily reach 40 yards.
I never touched a football until I was an adult at work, and guys were throwing the football around. Wow, did that embarrass me. I played basketball a lot, so I thought it would just come naturally. NOPE.
Learn to throw a baseball with power first. There is a different wrist angle for throwing a football but the arm motion is the same. Try to keep your head stationary. It's kinda like you are off balance right now which would be why your body tilts so far to the left. You need to be balanced. Use your left arm as a counter-weight to keep your upper body vertical. Your body is instinctually moving away from your elbow yo keep your balance. Point at your target with your left hand. Then the left arm is exactly opposite of the right through the entirety of the throw. This should result in a more vertical upper torso and head position.
I appreciate it! Yeah I've been working on it and it's feeling even better. I'm actually using rotational force now. Might need to attempt the 50 yarder again soon.
Honestly I think he's overdoing/overthinking this way too much. He's trying all these tips and techniques before he even has a foundation on how to throw something. If I was teaching someone to throw a football, I'd honestly start with teaching them how to throw a baseball. A lot of QBs actually do this in the off-season. If he can just get the fundamentals of throwing down, then you can worry about all the technical stuff.
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Shout outs to Coach Grant at First Down Training, he's awesome. Your "terrible" throw of 35 yards is better than my 30 yard max throw that I actually spent an entire summer working on.
I normally don't post on RUclips, but you're not getting your hips through before your shoulder. Try standing perpendicular to the target. Then, don't just step forward. Rather, Step slightly left of your target (maybe a 30 degree angle) as you pull the ball back. This will open up your hips. Then, as you bring your arm through (keeping your triceps parallel with the ground), angle your right knee towards the front and transfer your weight through to the front foot. Remember to pull your left elbow through. You can feel it creating a catapult motion in your shoulders. You can practice this without throwing the ball. A spiral is caused by the approach you took in this video, but nothing your are doing is generating more power.
Stepping left of the target is a great idea. I'm going to try that. Yeah I get the concept that my hips need to generate the power but when I try to put any power on the ball my hips and shoulders turn at the same time. It's so annoying. This is great advice though. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it!
@@JakeFerrin The way I visualize it that really helps is to think of your body as a whip, starting from your feet and cracking at the ball. The better you get at your motions, the quicker you can transition from feet to knees, to hips, to waist, to chest, to arm all the way to the ball, making it less exagerated and more compact and powerful, but you gotta commit and give it time practicing it piece by piece, otherwise muscle memory can't develop.
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I agree you and I play football in middle school and high school.
I was a quarterback my sophomore and junior years of high school, and I can tell you that throwing 50 years is no easy task.
Ok glad it's not just me lol
@@JakeFerrin For sure. It would be good to get a coach to help you out. I was a wide-receiver in 7th, 8th, and 9th grade. I could catch the ball but couldn't throw it to save my life. When I was moved to QB I was taught how to throw a ball, and then told to practice everyday over the summer. By the end of the summer I was able to throw, with good form, and much more accurately than I had been able to throw just a few months before. Form is everything when throwing a football, power is important but its useless if you don't know how to get the ball where you want it in the first place.
@@JakeFerrin as a senior in high school, and after 2 years of weightlifting and training, I could only throw the ball 50 yards. Our starting varsity QB could throw it 55 yards, and he had been a QB since 7th or 8th grade. So don't sweat it, throwing an accurate 35 yarder is much more impressive IMO
Yeah, they make it look so easy but it isn't and it can be really defeating.
I always told myself if I ever hit the lotto, I'd spend time learning all the things like this I never got formal training in as a kid. Played WR so just had to worry about catching passes. Crazy how Mike Vick just flicks his wrist and the ball launches 50 yards effortlessly. Great video
Yeah
Same i can catch all day but cant throw for shit
"I have a very ugly throw and I've been self-conscious about it"
me too bro, me too
nah lowkey thanks dude this shit helped a lot
I’m in the area if you ever wanted help (I’ve been a HS QB coach). Honestly hitting 40 yards would be pretty impressive - most people can’t throw a ball 40+ yards. Forms looking awesome for someone just starting!
i just started three to four days ago and im like 12 years old
day 3-4. throwing spirals
day 5. who knows???
Breaking down your throwing motion was a good idea. Someone below pointed out to rotate your shoulders. I agree. Creating torque would generate more power. Try this 5 minutes a day. Exchange your front and back foot by facing 90 degrees left of the target. Your right foot will be closer to the target and your left foot would be further. Now point your right toe towards the target. Only your right toe. Then face in the direction of the target by opening up your hips towards it. Your weight will be mainly on your right foot and you'll be balancing on your left toe. Now bring the ball back near your right shoulder by twisting your upper body clockwise. Then let it fly. You can feel the release of the torque and your shoulders are already rotating.
I will give it a try. Thanks for the comment 🙏🏻
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I can't tell you how much I enjoyed your video!! A couple of years ago, just like you (but at the age of 40...) I was determined to be able to throw a good spiral without any football background whatsoever. Since then I watch ALL the videos that come out. And each year I get better (I think!). I focus a lot on the hip rotation, my wrist, extension of the arm, balance, sometimes the little "Aaron Rodgers popstep", it helps to throw further... I'm amazed that you were able to improve this much in only 4 days. ✊
Thank you! Yeah I don't think you have to just accept that you're bad at things. If you put in four days of research and practice you can get way better! And that just sets you up to work on it throughout your life and you appreciate a solid throw a lot more. Cool that you're working on your throw too! Thanks for the comment brother👊🏻
Great start to your journey of Quarterbacking, know that the journey never ends. You’ll be sitting in your couch and just randomly start throwing. You’ll dream of throwing. You’ll even throw non football things like they’re footballs. All until you reach the final stage, tweaking the conventional ways of throwing to find your own throwing motion. You’ll either do that hop like Rodgers, Pat that shit down like Tom, or go full Rivers
Hey man, stoked to see video 2. I have thrown just about every ball there is and have pretty decent range. Looking at your throwing motion you have the right thought process but you're treating your arm almost more like a shotput throw, like your pushing the ball instead of slinging it. In the clips you had, you hear the coaches say "let's go sling it", that's because a football throw is more like a slingshot. You use your hips to build the power and your arm is slung forward by the momentum built from your feet, through your hips, shoulders and down your arm. It's not a shove or a push. A good way to get the feel would be to stand with your feet shoulder width apart, arm held out straight out to your side, and then twist at your hips really fast. You should feel your arm drag behind and then sling forward when you stop your hip rotation. That's pretty similar to the feeling of a really well thrown ball. Also, your release angle can effect your shoulder getting sore. Try for a more straight above your head release angle rather than more side arm motion you're using now. Last, you want your hand as far away from your body as possible when you release the ball. It's the longest pendulum you can create, and that speed you generate is amplified by how far away from your body the ball is at release. Best of luck slinger!
Thank you for breaking it down, this is awesome. I'll go mess around with it today. I actually think I've improved a lot since doing the video. I'm going to do the part 2 soon. Thanks again for the comment!
Have you ever played baseball before? I was watching this and thinking that the main thing I am seeing is your arm doesn’t looked relaxed when you are throwing, it looks like you are whipping it way too far into body and then in turn your body is kinda tilting to the left and everything seems thrown off. Personally what I think could help would be just throwing around a baseball a bit and working on getting that arm farther out and more relaxed to where it’s really gonna roll off your fingertips and fly. Another thing to think about is you should start out turned about 45 degrees to the right of your target and try to think about your upper torso like a teeter totter. When you go to throw the left arm needs to swing back a bit which will naturally throw the other one farther forward. I hope this helps 👍
It looks like someone right handed trying to throw with their left hand. Completely unnatural and lacks any fluidity or flexibility.
Great video can't wait for part2, congrats on the improvement. I noticed two things about your throwing motion that will make you throw farther if you fix it, the first thing is that you're not extending on release and the second is that your hips are a little off timing, which makes you lose torque, you should rotate your hips while getting you're shoulders back
Suffering like you! Keep on trying! You represent many of us!
Just turned 47, and still qb flag teams. Used to be able to throw it 60+ but now barely hit 50 yards anymore. Still got accuracy and velocity. Weird that I lost over 10 yards on my deep ball. Anyway, I thought you were sandbagging us when you showed the day before drills into the trampoline. I’ll have to watch it again, but at first glance, your motion looked really smooth. Whenever it does click for you, it’ll be like riding a bike. You’ll be slinging it with velocity, even when you get up there in age
Good job man. Can't wait for the part 2.
when you taped your wrist you improved a lot very fast. give it a couple more weeks or just days and youll get there
Thanks for all of this footage you got! I have a similar goal to hqve that perfect arching spiral fly half a field. It would be so rewarding. I started practicing my release again as home physicl therapy for an old shoulder injury from a car accident and i will say, lay on your back and practice throwing that spiral up and back down to yourself. You don't need much room or a partner and you also get to practice your receiving hands. Its been doing a lot for my release angle and also helping my injury. Peace and love, brother!
I love watching people develop their throwing mechanics… if I can say anything, instead of your left arm guiding your throw, you’re keeping it tucked. Extend that left arm and reach out to where you want to throw, and then let that throwing arm come through! Give it a try and let me know if that helped at all.
Late to the party but first thing that came to mind was the dak Prescott warmup video of him doing those hip rotations, might help some! Good luck!
Pull the ball, dont push.. hips rotate then, shoulders rotate to pull the ball to your target wherever your lead foot is pointing. At the release, your index finger side of your hand should end at you hip/quad at the opposite hip for a clean spiral (index finger should be the last thing on the ball)
I’ll give it a try.
ensure your elbow is above your shoulder on release, make sure you are using rotation as opposed to pushing the ball, this can be done by making sure the hip rotates as soon as the weight transfers from the back foot to the front foot. to put that into perspective the hip should start rotating through just before the arm comes forward or is in the "L" position
Just a heads up: it's very hard to throw 50 yards. Watch arena football, the field is only 50 yards long, and you dont see throws the entire length of the field as much as you'd think
I wish this video was over a period of 4 months, not 4 days, just to see how much an actual person can improve who wants to.
Im going to do a part 2. I’ve been practicing and I figured some things out. I think I can actually get the 50 yards.
Keep it up! Similar struggle to when you learn to spike a volleyball!
You need to do a golf version dude - putting or driver.
This is so good! Unfiltered feedback and just wanting to learn a new skill.
Thanks man! Yeah really I want to do a golf one.
Make sure you put emphasis into stepping towards your target then turning your hips, the rest will follow through naturally. Good luck bro! 💯
Im pretty good at throwing spirals, and throwing/hitting a baseball, even though I didn't grow up in the US/play those sports as a child. The reason: I played golf. The biomechanics are the same. Forget about the ball/club in your hand and just focus on the hip rotation. The hips will pull your upper body through and guide your arm. This applies for all throwing and hitting sports (and even punching).
Have your knees slightly bent, and feel as though you are pushing off the ground with the ball of your back foot when you turn. Over time, you will feel as though you can turn until your belt buckle faces the direction you are throwing before your shoulder or arm even begin to move. That whipping motion also creates the power you need.
Yeah I'm starting to realize why I'm bad at golf, throwing and punching. I never learned how to generate rotational power. I think I'm figuring it out though. I need to go test the throw again. Thanks for the comment. I'm going to try your tips out!
Coming from a football player that has played my whole life great job improving and keep going man. 👍
Thanks man. I actually appreciate that haha. I think I've already gotten better. Will probably do a part 2 soon.
@@JakeFerrin great I’ll make sure to watch it
Bruh this literally was my journey towards becoming a QB as well. Grinded form videos through the pandemic till I got my shot
Seems like a proper throw is like a proper golf swing. Both are extremely hard.
Super late comment but the thing that messes a lot of people up is when they hear "follow through across your body." This only works if your arm slot is roughly a 3/4 to side-arm arm slot. The follow-through needs to be basically the same angle as your arm slot. If you throw overhand, it needs to be damn-near straight down, if you throw a 3/4 slot it needs to be diagonal across your body, if you throw side-arm it, your follow through needs to come horizontally across your body. This is because you need to keep your arm on the same plane the entire throw. If it moves off the plane, it's gonna push the back of the ball causing it to wobble. Also if you short-arm the throw instead of releasing on extension, your arm is going to be off-plane, pushing the back of the ball causing it to wobble as well. You need to be almost fully extended before you actually pronate your wrist and let go I'm sure you've even felt better throwing a spiral when your arm was extended than bent. Als,o I wonder if you played baseball (I did which made it hard for me to throw a football at first) because it looks like you flick your wrist like a 4-seam while pronating This also pushes the back of the football. If you had a splint on your wrist, you would still be able to throw a football because your wrist is rotating not flicking. Pronating is a finessee that you have to get the feel of. The best way I can describe it is that it's like grazing the size of a football with a certain authority. It's like spinning a small bike tire but with your pointer finger, you have to get just the right angle with just the right amount of strength.
I need to try this. Thanks for taking the time to comment 🙏🏻
If your right arm was further back...
Try facing 90 degrees to the right, so your left shoulder points toward the target, and hold your right out All-The-Way to the right.
From here, slowly go through the entire motion. [throw 10' again and again] Once it becomes fluid, speed up incrementally.
Looking forward to part-2👍
I will give that a try 🙏🏻
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Dude literally been binging on throwing videos! This was gold! Great Job form def improved :)
Thanks man! I might need to do a follow up because I think I finally figured it out. I think I could throw the 50 yards now haha
You put a lot of effort in these videos and you definitely deserve more attention for it. Amazing video!
I appreciate it!
just a tip, to throw further, don't try and force it. the smoother your release, the better. the faster the ball spins, generally, the further it will go. kind of like how in boxing, if you wind up too much, you'll lose power.
I love the shots of you throwing in the backyard all I could think of is uncle rico from napoleon dynamite
edit: LOL
Believe me I felt like uncle rico from napoleon dynamite. I had a tripod and everything.
that field with the mountain behind it is beautiful
It's such a great view.
Where’s the park at where you were throwing into the soccer goal? Those mountains in the background are beautiful
Good stuff. I did the same thing a few years ago. Did a deep dive on a bunch of instructional vids. Do you play golf? One thing I learned is that it's very similar to the golf swing. 1m35 seconds in your video talks about lower body/hip/shoulder sequencing. Just like the golf swing, it's all timing of sequence based. That said, it's easier said than done. One other thing I did was buy five cheaper composite footballs and a target. Makes practice by yourself a lot easier.
Yeah, way easier said than done. I've always been terrible at golf and I'm realizing that's why. But I do think I'm starting to figure out the hip rotation so I'll probably do a part 2 soon. I'll have to look into a target and some cheaper balls. Thanks for the comment 👊🏻
This is dope. Hope some of my stuff could help 🤝
I appreciate it 🙏🏻 I watched a ton of your videos. Really good stuff man! Super helpful. Keep up the good work.
Key of advice, keep the ball away from your chest so you’re not so tucked in with your upper body
Dude, that's exactly what's going on with me right now. Everything you've been through.
I've watched all of those short videos and full videos and my throws still look like a kick that went sideways
Dimes has the best qb tutorials on RUclips also first down training
Agreed
Throwing this ball is mental as well just make the far throw as if you would make it if it was short Yk, don’t get in your head and think it’s far just do it like you have before
lool, i did the same as you, i watch evbery and i mean every video i can get. how to throw that damn spiral.... so good to see your video, and i recognize the same youtube videos as i watched before ;) keep going
bro its not only technique its also muscle strenght. if your shoulder starts to compensate your shoulder stability is propably not high enough to deal with the lower body impulse. start with strength training then go into mobility + core stability then you can propably start technique. its not that you cant learn it the other way around but thats how i would start.
Boy do I wish I could’ve helped you and caught the ball for you. I am always begging my brothers to play catch with the football😂. I can throw it about 40-50 yards with a good spiral and I’m only 16, hoping I can improve and throw it farther. I am watching the video now and I am rooting for you I hope you get it!
Yep
Yep
One thing that will Instantly give you a extra 5 yards is making sure you Load up on your back leg when throwing deep
I'm a pretty young qb but I know a thing or 2 about throwing a football. I'll tell you your flaws in your throwing motion, 1, bring your elbow way higher. It should be at least above the shoulder when throwing. 2, your foot you put your weight on can be a little bit behind you, but if its too far behind you all your power is lost and you're throwing all arm. 3, I would stop worrying about getting a good spiral, as long as your throwing motion is correct the wrist flick will come in naturally. But to throw a spiral just keep your wrist strong throughout the entire throwing motion. 5, bring your left arm closer to your face, act like your eating a sandwich. It'll make you more accurate and improve your throwing motion drastically. Sorry for rambling but I want you to be proud of your arm strength. Have a good one!
Ok bro, I watched you snap your hips and shoulders with the lacrosse ball, do the same thing with a football. Power or distance comes from there whether it’s Football, Golf or Baseball. However, the biggest thing that I see is your throwing arm is dropping almost below your neck, so it’s almost as if you’re throwing a pop-up. Remember this start from the ear, start your throw from your ear. so take the ball bring it up to your ear released from there, your hand should be in a backward C formation step into the throw, using your hips. Your throw is starting from your shoulder, almost as if you were trying to throw side armed. As a drill, pretend you are taking a snap having two hands on the ball take a three step.drop Bring the ball to your ear, elbows up, step into the with one arm, as you release the ball you’re throwing arm should come across your body. I’m pretty sure you got a lot of great advice. However, this is the mechanics for throwing properly is 10 yards or 50. Hope I helped.
I will give that a try. I need to figure this thing out haha. Thanks for the comment!
You need to keep 2 hands on the ball and keep it up by your ear. Then coil your hips back, and release the ball over the top like a volleyball serve. Believe me, you’ll get 10 extra yards
I’ll try that. Thanks!
❤ good job
I really love your video man!
I appreciate it!
i really like this but try and move ur hips more and when your going to throw higher and farther make sure almost all of ur weight is on ur back leg and ur rotating ur hips i play football w my friends so i learn a-lot from them so i hope this helps
The struggle is real
Well ur ball is just but when u bring ur arms up and ur elbow up u should get more space on that throw because its too close and u cant generate power if ur arm is that close
Most of what you accomplished in four days was refining your throwing motion. Your current distance throws simply means you are at your current physiological limit. Your max POTENTIAL is going to take much longer than 4 days to reach. This applies to all ballistic sports (tennis, baseball, hockey, javelin, etc). So, when looking at say pro tennis players, you will notice their primary racquet arm and shoulder is noticeably bigger, more developed than their non raquet arm.
Perhaps a better goal than discrete 50 yards would instead be, whatever the max potenial is after a period of months (eg, might end up being say 60 yards). To accelerate your development, you can do a lot of throwing reps with objects heavier than about 1 lb (just over 14 to 15 oz weight of an official game football). Get some 2 and 3 lbs mini dumbells and practice your throwing motion with them (without actually throwing them). "Throw" the dumbells at full power, max velocity, until the arm and shoulder get a little sore and weak (say 100 reps total). Start with heavier dumbell and finish with the lighter one. After 1 or 2 days rest and recovery, do the throwing reps again or practice throwing footballs instead. Do this cylce of train and recovery until you reach your goal or lose interest. As the weeks and months go by, you will see your throwing range increase. Eventually though, you will reach your absolute limit (who knows, perhaps 65 yards?). Good luck!
Loved the video, but you shouldn't try to apply more force, you should just try tilting your throwing shoulder slightly down and turning the ball slightly up, it'll go further naturally. Dimes video really helped me, watch it and maybe it'll help you too.
Working on my form and I came across this video.
Really the only reason you didn't throw for 50 is because you didn't train to throw for 50. You worked on your mechanics short range but not long. You have to tilt the shoulders back to adjust the angle, otherwise you're putting more pressure on your shoulder and arm to life the ball. By tilting you can release the ball with good timing and it still has the lift, but you don't need the same amount of umph.
It's been 9 months so you probably already learned all your mistakes though lol. Your form was so much better in just 4 days man, awesome video.
I appreciate it man. Yeah I'm going to do a followup up at some point. I think I've improved a lot since then but I haven't re-tested the 50 yard throw. I'm saving that for the part 3 video.
How to throw a football
1. A position- It all starts with your base and your body position before you even throw the ball. Feet shoulder with apart with 60% of your weight under your back leg. A relaxed ball carriage with the ball resting against your chest and nose of the ball while slightly pointing out. You should have a firm wrist meaning they shouldn’t be bending either too much forward or backwards. Your wrist will stay in this position throughout the whole process of throwing the ball.
2. Stepping to load- While keeping your weight under you, you will take a slight step forward and to your left of your midline. make sure to not over stride so that your weight shifts forward, your weight should stay under your back leg. Also make sure you don’t open your foot towards your target, instead point your toes to your target. As you step to load you will separate your hands now just holding the ball with your right hand. Your left hand should mirror your right hand, but you just don’t have the ball in your left hand other than that they should look the same. As you do this close your shoulder towards your Target and at the same time start to open your hips.
3. Unwinding- In this step you will now be transferring your weight from your back leg to your hips then to your upper body all the way to the ball. It is crucial that you stay light on your front foot, meaning making sure your heel stays out of the ground and you are pivoting on the ball of your foot. This helps with keeping your weight under you as you rotate. Another important factor is your back leg. While unwinding it shouldn’t flip over and swinging forward it should stay back and actually slightly go behind you. This happens at the same time you pivot on your front foot. At the same time, you will start to transfer your weight to your hips and open them up to your target. Your upper half will start to open as well, but it won’t open completely until you release the ball. So, make sure you keep a firm front shoulder and don’t allow it to just swing open as you open your hips. Also make sure to keep your left hand in a relaxed closed fist position in front of or touching your chest as if you were holding a microphone to talk into. With your right arm you will now start to bring your elbow forward with the ball trailing it, the ball should be at or behind your ear. Making sure your elbow is even or slightly above your shoulder. All of this should be done with leveled shoulders and without leaning out to your left.
4. Releasing the ball- This is the step where everything comes together, and it should look effortless. You have transferred your weight to Your hips, and they have opened. The weight from your hips has been transferred to your upper body and your chest has finally opened with hips, your shoulders and chest are now parallel to your target. When you release the ball, you will still be light on your front foot and your back leg will stay back. It is only after the ball has come out that your heel will touch the ground and your back leg can swing forward, but making sure not to swing forward passed your front foot because this will mean you're pushing off instead of rotating your body. As for your upper half you must maintain leveled shoulders and reach full extension of your arm. Your elbow should come first then your forearm should trail it finally catching up giving you that flick of the wrist motion. As for your wrist, it shouldn’t move at all like we talked about in step 1 your wrist should stay in that firm straight position until the very moment the ball comes off your fingers. To throw a good spiral you must get the nose of the ball pointing forward, reaching full extension will help with this. Also, when releasing the ball instead of trying to flick your wrist and pointer finger down resulting in the palm of your Hand facing outwards to your right try to imagine yourself unscrewing a light bulb on the ceiling. This will get the nose of the ball pointing forward giving you a clean spiral with a high spin rate.
Didn’t touch on everything here but I Hope this helps
Dang this is wild. Thank you for taking the time. I took a screenshot and will be trying this stuff out. 🙏🏻
ngl got pretty jealous seeing your backyard
Maybe it needs more John Wick than Neo?
I’m like ten and can throw 54 yards. I won a football game off of a Hail Mary and it was 54 yards.
Dang bro what’s your secret
This was very entertaining
🙏🏻
If you through it right it will just have that natural spiral
I’m a quarterback, and I always watch the first town training guy they learned videos! He’s a great quarterback coach
Maybe try throwing it with two hands. I’ve heard that gives you more power
Of course. Why didn't I think of that.. I'll give it a try.
you clearly dont know american football
@@trying1407 that was *clearly* a joke
Make sure you have a little gap between your hand and ball and put your fingers on the laces make the ball spin of your hand and tap the ball before you throw like tap the ball first and then throw the ball but I am 10 and I can throw but make sure if your arm is like and step where you want to throw now I am going to go bye
where did u get the football
i think you should try to loosen up your arm and let it flow in your throw. Also, your elbow is a smidge too low.
Still no part 2?
I just want to learn how to throw so i can play catch with my future son.
Fix that elbow!!! I was a reciever in high school and had to come in at qb after ours got injured. I learned the importance of elbow position, wrist flick, and fast and powerful hip rotation
Try to put more ark on the ball
Hey Jake, did you get it done? Is your right arm still sore? Throwing 50 yards is a difficult task even for some teenagers. The comment you left at the end of the video gave me some clue. You said you had a sore shoulder. I guess you're using too much of your arm strength and not generating enough power from your lower body. We have our biggest muscles in our thighs and butts. Bend your back knee about 90 degrees and put 90% of your weight on the inside of your back foot. Kick off of your back foot(toes) and transfer all your weight to the front foot while rotating your hips. It's called a ground reaction force. You'll easily reach 40 yards.
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you are throwing at my school lol
You’re starting your arm too early. Step forward, roll hips/back into the target with both hands, and then swing elbow to throw as you follow through
I never touched a football until I was an adult at work, and guys were throwing the football around. Wow, did that embarrass me. I played basketball a lot, so I thought it would just come naturally. NOPE.
How much you bet he can throw a ball over those mountains?
weres part 2
Almostttttt !!!!!!!!!!
Tim Teebow never learn so....
And he won a playoff game😂
Learn to throw a baseball with power first.
There is a different wrist angle for throwing a football but the arm motion is the same.
Try to keep your head stationary. It's kinda like you are off balance right now which would be why your body tilts so far to the left.
You need to be balanced. Use your left arm as a counter-weight to keep your upper body vertical.
Your body is instinctually moving away from your elbow yo keep your balance.
Point at your target with your left hand. Then the left arm is exactly opposite of the right through the entirety of the throw.
This should result in a more vertical upper torso and head position.
I’m a quarterback and can throw 65 yards(I’m 13) you need to throw the ball more outwards and up
that’s pretty impressive
I don't want this to make it like I'm a hatter or anything but I'm a 12 year old that can throw 50 yards.
Do yourself a favor and buy at least a half dozen footballs. The immediate repetition without having to chase after every ball will help quite a bit.
Supposedly you want your weight on your back leg and upper body inline with target
Yeah my weight is moving off my back foot way too early
This looks like Provo.
It is indeed
wow imagine being a little girl seeing your dad struggle to throw a ball.
Hahah why do you think I want to learn? Gotta figure it out before she's old enough to remember what she saw.
Throw like it’s a hatchet
I could throw 45 yards when younger
bro no way she cried after getting hit at .2 mph 💀💀💀💀
That was literally a baby
When I feal like a loser I watch this video because I'm 13 and can throw a 38 yard pass and so can he and I'm so much younger than him
You look a lot better by the end. It appears you’re using too much arm and not enough body.
Great video man. Yea it takes months of practice to finally feel the move and get there. But let’s keep it going you can do it🫵🏻
I appreciate it! Yeah I've been working on it and it's feeling even better. I'm actually using rotational force now. Might need to attempt the 50 yarder again soon.
Looks good just work on your arm path
Honestly I think he's overdoing/overthinking this way too much. He's trying all these tips and techniques before he even has a foundation on how to throw something. If I was teaching someone to throw a football, I'd honestly start with teaching them how to throw a baseball. A lot of QBs actually do this in the off-season. If he can just get the fundamentals of throwing down, then you can worry about all the technical stuff.