Well... It is still better than a non included feature that you can't unlock after the purchase... Imagine having some sensors on your car and you can unlock them if you feel like you'll like them when you have the money to unlock them. Still... 250 for an animation... That sucks...
Yeah, always tried making my own lounge mode on Tesla model S. On long drives, it's nice to get some shut eye whilst charging. Kia is awesome now. I wonder if that's Ashley Schaeffer's doing or not.
bought my daughter a 2018 KIA Forte in 2019 (her first car while in High School). The single worst purchase I've ever made - it hasn't been stolen or burst into flames [yet] but our insurance premiums in Illinois are more reflective of a luxury sedan than an economy vehicle. Someone please start up a second class action lawsuit to address both Hyundai/KIA negligence on behalf of ALL owners irregardless of theft, fire, etc. Owner insurance premiums totaling nearly twice the cost they should be isn't fair. They shouldn't be allowed to sell vehicles in the U.S. until this is addressed.
@@tocreatee5736 ya done goofed. First off, why is this a reply to a totally unrelated comment. Secondly, Kia and Hyundai DID get sued, all of this has been going on for years, and I own a 2023 Kia Soul that has lower insurance premium than most cars.
Huge is an understatement. I've seen it in person. It isn't two Hummers strapped together but I would not want to be a pedestrian in front of these things.
4:50 you want lounge mode for the 24 minutes you're stopped charging from 10% to 80%. or longer if you're at an electrify america spot and 3 of the 4 chargers are either broken or limited to dispensing 35 kw of juice.
Genuine question, if you have any in your area what do you think of the Shell Recharge chargers? I'm a software engineer on one of the Shell Recharge teams and we're doing a ton of work to try and improve charger uptime. There's still tons of work to do so my expectation is that the charger experience still isn't great, but my hopes are high :)
I mean.. Can you tell us what your charger uptime is like right now? I think you're fighting against 96%+ uptime on the superchargers. And even EA seems to be getting better. I'm personally definitely looking forward to having reliable, interconnected networks across the country providing options to drivers. Probably can't tell us, but wondering if and when there will be a switch to NACS. Also wondering if anyone will bite the bullet and create a unified app experience that can combine station information (charger status, open stalls, cars en route, etc) from multiple brands into one, to rival the SC network. Shell, I imagine, isn't planning extreme solo expansion and might well benefit from just such a thing.
Kia employee here! EV9 is a really hot seller at my dealership we had a pre production model from Korea and it genuinely impressed me. Kia is really coming a long way from where they were
@@cokeiceeeeebidirectional charging is all I'm waiting for before jumping in on an ev. I want to be able to power my house in an emergency and maybe run a cooler in the back. Even better if I can sell electricity back to the grid when I don't need it.
It should be illegal to sell cars this unnecessarily big and heavy. Thank you for being the first person on RUclips to acknowledge that cd is a COEFFICIENT, as there are plenty of idiots that think a Tesla model X is more aerodynamic than an mazda MX5 just because it's cd is lower
Got ours a few weeks back. Put 1100km on it helping family and friends move about. It is super quiet and surprisingly agile despite the obvious size of the thing. Previously we had a Tesla and the difference in quality is immediately obvious. Recommended!
I have a question for you. I am a windsurfer, and I am the lookout for an EV that can transport my gear without having to strap it to the top. So if I fold both the second and third row of seats down and move the front passenger seat as far forward as possible, about how long is the space? 7 feet? More?
@@gatesurferI'm just guessing here. The back half of the car (up to the pillar) is a little less than half the length of the car. So maybe just a bit over 7 feet. Perhaps if you moved the seat up and got the load a bit diagonal, you might get 8. But 7 seems like a good working floor number.
It's refreshing to see Kia innovating with the ev9. Impressed with the thoughtfulness in the design, not to mention the interior quality and tech features.
Cars with DLC is absolute nonsense, especially when the hardware for the feature(s) is IN the car already. If they want to sell a version that has the hardware removed, and costs like $30K less, then sure.. but to nickel and dime people for basic-ass features on a car that already costs more money than most people will imagine having at a given time.. should be a crime.
They have to sell a lot of the profitable cars (SUVs) before they can design the less profitable ones. The electric sedans currently available in North America consist of the Ioniq 6, Polestar 2, BMW i4, BMW i5, and Mercedes EQE
Or a nice stationwagon. I don't want a landyacht, and I don't need 24 seats. But it would be really nice if I could fit a sheet of 4x8 OSB with the rear (60/40) seats folded down. And to be able to fit in a regular EU-sized parking space without having to be a 40kg thin contortionist to get in or out, yeah that would be really great too.
I have an everest 7 seater SUV and its fantastic, can just use a roof box etc if taking heaps of people or can Use it as a stationwagon style for room.
Americans imagine themselves needing ground clearance for their rugged lifestyles, going to and fro the strip mall. And sliding doors are practical, which is emasculating or something.
@@concinnus lmao, well said. No idea why Americans are so obsessed with these big cars when they either drive alone or with 3 people max. Maybe it's an ego thing, like "look mine's bigger!"
Damn, the _"Surround View Monitor w/ 3D View"_ isn't available until the _"Land AWD"_ model. Base is $54k and the Land AWD $70k. Damn. That means you can't get the bench for the back seat and have to use captain chairs.
I don't understand how those handles are going to work in winter. How am I supposed to get into the car to get my scraper when the handles can't come out?
@@prashank Physics hasn't. Engineering has. We have FEM and CFD now. Material science has improved. Coatings science has improved. This hasn't got anything to do with physics.
Drag coefficient formula must be multiplied by the area of the front of the car to get the actual force. It's a bit misleading and the mercedes would have a much lower drag force.
When the battery technology advances. Until then look at a Hyundai Kona EV 2023 (not 2024) if you are looking for a compact EV with a nice range and very fun engine.
Honestly, there is such a niche you guys got here with how you review cars. 👏 almost deserving of a channel.... tech minds and automotive reviewing. Yes. More. Thank you.
@@blepala Flush door handles are always balls, but at least on the "small" Teslas you can give the handle a bit of whack to break it free. On the big Teslas (S/X) they work just as atrocious in the cold as these will.
@@Killerpixel11Just run the defrost from the app before you leave. It hits them and defrosts. My '21 model 3 has been no issue living in ohio, the car can schedule what time you leave and pre-do it
Would be better as a car. I find it crazy these SUVs have less interior room than my Forte. "Being an EV, it had to do something that wouldn't work after a night of freezing rain" Also microtransactions? Really? And I was a fan of Kia until that moment.
Great review, LMG has really come a long way when it comes to their car reviews, this was both entertaining and informative and focused on the things that are important when it comes to vehicles rather than getting too techy. I enjoyed the little touch of the presenter laying down in the boot and doing some head banging, sorry I'm terrible with names. The early car reviews I found somewhat frustrating and could find fault easily, this review, well I struggle to find fault. Well done!.
it has been an absolute joy seeing alex find his voice and becoming more and more excellent with his reviews. this is one of his best ones yet. very informative, fun and not too dry even though its very information dense. love all your videos, but especially the car reviews. keep up the good work. PS: one of the only things i would suggest is can you guys do a DB meter on a standard road for electric vehicles - like what is the quietest the EV on gravel to asphalt section. i find that many EVs skimp on either sound dampening or there is random wind noise. I drove the volvo polestar thing for work for a couple weeks and the wind noise was atrocious! My boss comutes in his Hummer EV and says that there is a windy stretch of road between two mountains where the noise gets really high pitched and almost whistles. i didn't believe it was that bad until i drove with him once and it sounds like an office chair going full speed downhill....
Does the rear brake light turn on when you're in single pedal mode? A lot of cars don't do this since regulators don't require it, but I'm not trying to get rear ended in poor visibility conditions
In the US there is no legislation for it, but EU has pretty strict rules that say that after a certain deceleration rate threshold, brake lights need to come on. If we take Hyundai Ioniq 5 (that is on the same platform) there is a chance that it might not come on in US under certain circumstances unless they changed something in the meantime. Technology Connections made a video about that some time ago.
I've seen one in The Netherlands and it just doesn't fit. Way too large and poor vision on cyclists. Also it guzzles power compared to my chonker ioniq 5. I really wish cars would shrink down again. It would help both efficiency and safety
to me, this looks like a HUGE Soul, which is a good thing. ive always been a fan of that little car. this has nice lines, good looking trim, and i do really like the interior layout. kia has really upped their game here
Don't recommend i-pedal or anything like that, it doesn't activate the brake light until you're almost at a complete stop, so vehicles behind you don't know you're slowing down to stop until the last second.
@@rcoundon on select models yes but most of them won't, there's a RUclips I watch who went over this and even showed how his brake lights won't turn on until his ipedal comes to a complete stop.
@@tourmalino3205 I don't know where you're from but in the EU and UK there are directives that cars much adhere to in terms of the level of deceleration that results in brake lights coming on, it may be different in the US. In terms of other regenerative braking options, it's a similar situation to downshifting in an ICE in order to use the gearing/engine braking to slow the car which doesn't result in the brake lights illuminating.
Again, thank you guys so much for the frequency analysis charts in your car reviews. As a certified audio nut (and studio recording engineer), I *love* that stuff. I've generated these graphs for every car I've owned in an attempt to tune things, and my friends always think I'm crazy.
My KIA cars engine stalled after the dealership did an engine consumption test. The crank shaft broke and now they won’t honor their warranty even though my car is still under warranty. I drove the car only 30 miles after the oil consumption test and the engine blew up. I’m so disappointed in KIA they don’t care
Any vehicle this size and height is inheritantly dangerous and anti-social. Terrible viability, max potential damage, tearing up the tarmac as much as 20 normal cars on the same road (not an exaggeration), can't be seen over by cyclists, just unnecessary. US, the public, should make it socially negative to drive massive lumps like this as the oblivious people that buy them just do not realise the negativity they are spreading to their environment when they drive around other humans
That's not a car, that's a SUV. I always laugh at people saying we need to "do our part for the environment", who then get into their 2.5-3 metric ton SUVs and carry *nothing*.
Getting an IONIQ 6 pretty soon, thanks to you guys, and man I only wish I could have it in this beautiful metallic blue. but everyone knows, red goes faster anyways.
Ooof, imagine getting that inferior piece of junk. Maybe you should step inside a K, backwards-N dealership before you buy it. Because you're gonna regret that the minute you need any sort of service or warranty.
Question: Will the handles manage to slide out if you leave the car out in a freezing snowing winter night or will they freeze thus preventing you to enter the car? And you should test this with every car that uses some stupid electronic crap for the doors instead of a normal mechanism.
I find it very funny that these days with computer help they can't get a drag coefficientsy below 0.2 but back before the computer was a tool for car designers they often got down to 0.19 and below Computer's where suppose to make it possible to go lower then the old days not the other way around
2:27 But the question is whether you can put the seats in the normal position using the button in the trunk. Because there are a lot of cars with this option of folding the seats that don't come back with the button on the trunk. Idk if this is discussed later in the video
Those micro transactions on cars is gonna kill a lot of brands especially for something so simple as headlights. that's just plan greedy. Imagine a subscription for a/c and power seats. smh
whilst i do not agree with microtransactions at all for any reason. this is purely cosmetic, its not the actual headlight itself, just some flair on the side, who cares.
I might sound like a boomer but I was pretty into this car until I saw the front seats. I yearn for analogue dashboards, bring back buttons and knobs please. I see one massive touchscreen and I immediately think firmware updates, glitches, dead pixels, connectivity issues, planned obsolescence, etc.
Kinda crazy to have hardware and features already installed in your vehicle but locked behind a paywall to access, at least with road service buttons/heated seats it involves adding on to the vehicle or being serviced.
I really wish there was an option to get the smaller battery in the higher trims. Other reviews have noted you are penalized in charging rate and speed for going with the larger pack. You are NOT getting those 10-80% stats even in the best of conditions, and it will charge slower than their true 400V architecture like in the Ionic 5.
A car that has microtransactions and door handles that can malfunction, all for $80k. What's not to love about it? Also, I wonder how likely it is that all of that interior plastic will get recycled...
When I saw the door handles I thought what would happen if your battery totally died to where you could not unlock it and you had something important in it. If you are not home or near a charger then it could be an issue. Of course I at most need cruise control. This is for others but alas not me. Oh well. Good review though.
Nice. Alsays love the sound system review. But... I was distracted by the finger prints on the driver's window that were right in the center of the frame for Alex's driving shots. 😮
Can y'all please do a comparison of various devices like the sponsored product here? (wireless Car-play/AA adapters, including ones that are basically a tablet that output via same...). I'd like to know their common issues, challenges, and things to look out for
What's funny to me is how some of the things that were criticized in past Tesla reviews are excused or glossed over in this video 🤔. Makes me wonder if this is an ad or they just really don't like Tesla because of it's musky CEO 😅.
I got to see this at the Columbus Auto Show, and honestly it won best in show IMO. The only 3 manufacturers not present was BMW, Mazda and Tesla. All the new cars on the road, this hit me (and the Ioniq 5). I’m an Audi fanboy and would go with this EV9 over a Q5/Q7 equivelant. But I hear there’s a Q6 EV on the way, soooooo. :p
"love the direction they're going"
*1-2 minutes in*
MICROTRANSACTIONS
you have to PAY to unlock a lighting animation!?
Its an optional extra to get the full collection. Its like paying 250 for a different wheel rim
Well... It is still better than a non included feature that you can't unlock after the purchase... Imagine having some sensors on your car and you can unlock them if you feel like you'll like them when you have the money to unlock them.
Still... 250 for an animation... That sucks...
Gotta love how so many car companies nowadays are locking out hardware that already exists on the cars through software with paywalls.
@@TrioLOLGamers lol bmw heated seats
@@blepalait's still not a valid reason to charge me more for my lights
Man, the editing and pacing of this video are genius. Also, Alex is such a great host.
the lounge mode is for the times u r in the car while it is charging....that's what they have been saying for a long time now with their other cars
would be great for the Drive In as well if you have one in the area. I have 2 by where I live and that would be awesome
Yeah, always tried making my own lounge mode on Tesla model S. On long drives, it's nice to get some shut eye whilst charging.
Kia is awesome now. I wonder if that's Ashley Schaeffer's doing or not.
My girlfriend had a 2020 KIA and it literally caught on fire.
not recommend.
$250 is a microtransaction? What a time to be alive!
Compared to the 80,000 of the car.... yeah, kinda!
I really hope nobody gets it just to have some push back against this crap.
Macro transactions just dropped
That segue to the sponsor was probably the cleanest one they've done on an LMG channel.
bought my daughter a 2018 KIA Forte in 2019 (her first car while in High School). The single worst purchase I've ever made - it hasn't been stolen or burst into flames [yet] but our insurance premiums in Illinois are more reflective of a luxury sedan than an economy vehicle. Someone please start up a second class action lawsuit to address both Hyundai/KIA negligence on behalf of ALL owners irregardless of theft, fire, etc. Owner insurance premiums totaling nearly twice the cost they should be isn't fair. They shouldn't be allowed to sell vehicles in the U.S. until this is addressed.
@@tocreatee5736 ya done goofed. First off, why is this a reply to a totally unrelated comment. Secondly, Kia and Hyundai DID get sued, all of this has been going on for years, and I own a 2023 Kia Soul that has lower insurance premium than most cars.
Huge is an understatement. I've seen it in person. It isn't two Hummers strapped together but I would not want to be a pedestrian in front of these things.
Yes, this is the biggest car in Europe that isn't imported. At least what I've seen.
SUVs are a blight on our roads
Not to mention the fact that these evs can accelerate like a sports car with handling to allow for even more efficient reckless traffic weaving.
Friend has a 2020 KIA Telluride that caught on fire while her mechanic was driving it after a maintenance schedule. 😨😨
@@jakem5039100%. So unnecessary for 90% of people and a huge safety risk for others
4:50 you want lounge mode for the 24 minutes you're stopped charging from 10% to 80%. or longer if you're at an electrify america spot and 3 of the 4 chargers are either broken or limited to dispensing 35 kw of juice.
Genuine question, if you have any in your area what do you think of the Shell Recharge chargers? I'm a software engineer on one of the Shell Recharge teams and we're doing a ton of work to try and improve charger uptime. There's still tons of work to do so my expectation is that the charger experience still isn't great, but my hopes are high :)
I mean.. Can you tell us what your charger uptime is like right now? I think you're fighting against 96%+ uptime on the superchargers. And even EA seems to be getting better.
I'm personally definitely looking forward to having reliable, interconnected networks across the country providing options to drivers.
Probably can't tell us, but wondering if and when there will be a switch to NACS. Also wondering if anyone will bite the bullet and create a unified app experience that can combine station information (charger status, open stalls, cars en route, etc) from multiple brands into one, to rival the SC network. Shell, I imagine, isn't planning extreme solo expansion and might well benefit from just such a thing.
2:06 the doorhandles „just work“. We are really setting the bar low nowadays
Kia employee here! EV9 is a really hot seller at my dealership we had a pre production model from Korea and it genuinely impressed me. Kia is really coming a long way from where they were
Hey can you tell me the width of the wheels? I have the 19 inch in diameter. I’m gonna change my wheels
i got preorder, any more word on the two way charging
@@cokeiceeeee I’m in parts, so I’m not too familiar with the charging system but I do plan on learning it
@@cokeiceeeeebidirectional charging is all I'm waiting for before jumping in on an ev. I want to be able to power my house in an emergency and maybe run a cooler in the back. Even better if I can sell electricity back to the grid when I don't need it.
It should be illegal to sell cars this unnecessarily big and heavy.
Thank you for being the first person on RUclips to acknowledge that cd is a COEFFICIENT, as there are plenty of idiots that think a Tesla model X is more aerodynamic than an mazda MX5 just because it's cd is lower
What if you have 4 kids? :)
@@filiplou74 4 kids can fit in a Toyota Tazz from the 90s
@@filiplou74 At that point a minivan would work better and it'll have the space for luggage, unlike this giant thing with practically no space.
I like the fact that you put metric units alongside the freedom units you say.
They’re Canadian so it makes sense
Canadians use both ;)
"it's pretty fun given how huge it is"
pedestrian and cyclist: 🗿🗿🗿
Got ours a few weeks back. Put 1100km on it helping family and friends move about. It is super quiet and surprisingly agile despite the obvious size of the thing. Previously we had a Tesla and the difference in quality is immediately obvious. Recommended!
I have a question for you. I am a windsurfer, and I am the lookout for an EV that can transport my gear without having to strap it to the top. So if I fold both the second and third row of seats down and move the front passenger seat as far forward as possible, about how long is the space? 7 feet? More?
@@gatesurferI'm just guessing here. The back half of the car (up to the pillar) is a little less than half the length of the car. So maybe just a bit over 7 feet. Perhaps if you moved the seat up and got the load a bit diagonal, you might get 8. But 7 seems like a good working floor number.
As Car manufacturers keep adding "DLC" to their cars, the chances that people get accustomed to 🏴☠️ "making changes after the fact" to their cars.
He's discovered "becoming a mechanic" what will the auto overlords do to stop this threat?
@@ninjahawk2400 custom software automatically fails your emissions test in germany
Damn, the space when all the seats are down is mad. Chuck an inflatable mattress in there and you got a decent mobile bedroom, haha.
Haven’t watched the video yet, but based on the video’s title, drink every time Alex says “absolutely fantaaaastic“
Welp, that didn’t take long! 😅😂
How many Fricken's will there be? :D @@ryanbane
It's refreshing to see Kia innovating with the ev9. Impressed with the thoughtfulness in the design, not to mention the interior quality and tech features.
Cars with DLC is absolute nonsense, especially when the hardware for the feature(s) is IN the car already. If they want to sell a version that has the hardware removed, and costs like $30K less, then sure.. but to nickel and dime people for basic-ass features on a car that already costs more money than most people will imagine having at a given time.. should be a crime.
Seems like a nice car, but damn where are the good sedans?
Check out the Kia K4 they just released. It's not electric, but we imagine it will be pretty soon!
China
They have to sell a lot of the profitable cars (SUVs) before they can design the less profitable ones. The electric sedans currently available in North America consist of the Ioniq 6, Polestar 2, BMW i4, BMW i5, and Mercedes EQE
Isn't there a larger tax credit for SUVs or something
Or a nice stationwagon. I don't want a landyacht, and I don't need 24 seats. But it would be really nice if I could fit a sheet of 4x8 OSB with the rear (60/40) seats folded down. And to be able to fit in a regular EU-sized parking space without having to be a 40kg thin contortionist to get in or out, yeah that would be really great too.
If you're gonna do 3 rows of seats, then why not just make it a minivan? Added benefit of some additional height.
expect the carnival to be ev-ified eventually
I have an everest 7 seater SUV and its fantastic, can just use a roof box etc if taking heaps of people or can Use it as a stationwagon style for room.
Americans imagine themselves needing ground clearance for their rugged lifestyles, going to and fro the strip mall. And sliding doors are practical, which is emasculating or something.
@@concinnus lmao, well said.
No idea why Americans are so obsessed with these big cars when they either drive alone or with 3 people max. Maybe it's an ego thing, like "look mine's bigger!"
An electric minivan would be ideal. Low center of gravity. Plenty of crunch zone up front. Sliding doors. Chrysler could make a comeback.
Damn, the _"Surround View Monitor w/ 3D View"_ isn't available until the _"Land AWD"_ model. Base is $54k and the Land AWD $70k. Damn. That means you can't get the bench for the back seat and have to use captain chairs.
As someone who eats lunch in their car because our lunchroom smells I can appreciate a lounge mode lol
I don't understand how those handles are going to work in winter. How am I supposed to get into the car to get my scraper when the handles can't come out?
That drag coefficient is literally on par with the legendary Mercedes W124 E-class from the 80's.
Turns out physics hasn't changed howbowdat
@@prashank Turns out 40 years of progress and we're back at where we left. It's ridiculous.
@@prashank Physics hasn't. Engineering has. We have FEM and CFD now. Material science has improved. Coatings science has improved.
This hasn't got anything to do with physics.
Drag coefficient formula must be multiplied by the area of the front of the car to get the actual force. It's a bit misleading and the mercedes would have a much lower drag force.
Unfortunately the Mercedes has a quarter the frontal area, so the drag will be far less.
When will normal sized car evs come that don’t suck?
When the battery technology advances. Until then look at a Hyundai Kona EV 2023 (not 2024) if you are looking for a compact EV with a nice range and very fun engine.
Renault made one for a short stint in the 2010s (sadly don't remember the name) and the Chevy volt/Opel ampera did exist
@@Unwavering_ResolveThe 2024 is just ever so slightly larger. Like, by a few centimeters. (but the looks took a sharp dive unfortunately.)
@@tiagobelo4965 Renault Zoé. In Europe they made it till last year.
BYD has been doing that, Atto 3 is a normal sized hatchback for your average people for around $35K with 400km range.
Those door handles are absolutely stupid for anyone living in the north. You'll end up locked out of your car whenever you get some ice.
Honestly, there is such a niche you guys got here with how you review cars. 👏 almost deserving of a channel.... tech minds and automotive reviewing. Yes. More. Thank you.
I wonder how well those door handles work after an ice storm
@@Zephanyahh there's no problem with batteries in cold weather if there's no cold weather.
Similar to how a tesla does
@@blepala Flush door handles are always balls, but at least on the "small" Teslas you can give the handle a bit of whack to break it free. On the big Teslas (S/X) they work just as atrocious in the cold as these will.
surprise, they wont!
@@Killerpixel11Just run the defrost from the app before you leave. It hits them and defrosts. My '21 model 3 has been no issue living in ohio, the car can schedule what time you leave and pre-do it
Would be better as a car. I find it crazy these SUVs have less interior room than my Forte.
"Being an EV, it had to do something that wouldn't work after a night of freezing rain"
Also microtransactions? Really? And I was a fan of Kia until that moment.
3:00 Stop reading from manufacturer spec sheets and show us the real charging speeds! Would be nice to know the real range too, not just WLTP.
The $250 microtransaction alone is enough for me to skip over this. This trend needs to die.
Lol
skip over it. LMAO yeah dude im sure you were in the market for a 3 row $60k SUV
At this point I am convinced that LTT can produce anything.
I feel like Lounge Mode on the driver seat is pretty obviously for when you're at a charging station, especially on a road trip.
Video got to my sub box literally after my LTT screwdriver was delivered lol. Great fidget toy to play with while I watch Short Circuit!
Lounge mode is 100% for lunch nap breaks at work
Great review, LMG has really come a long way when it comes to their car reviews, this was both entertaining and informative and focused on the things that are important when it comes to vehicles rather than getting too techy.
I enjoyed the little touch of the presenter laying down in the boot and doing some head banging, sorry I'm terrible with names.
The early car reviews I found somewhat frustrating and could find fault easily, this review, well I struggle to find fault. Well done!.
it has been an absolute joy seeing alex find his voice and becoming more and more excellent with his reviews. this is one of his best ones yet. very informative, fun and not too dry even though its very information dense. love all your videos, but especially the car reviews. keep up the good work.
PS:
one of the only things i would suggest is can you guys do a DB meter on a standard road for electric vehicles - like what is the quietest the EV on gravel to asphalt section. i find that many EVs skimp on either sound dampening or there is random wind noise. I drove the volvo polestar thing for work for a couple weeks and the wind noise was atrocious! My boss comutes in his Hummer EV and says that there is a windy stretch of road between two mountains where the noise gets really high pitched and almost whistles. i didn't believe it was that bad until i drove with him once and it sounds like an office chair going full speed downhill....
The best thing about lounge mode for me is it’s very nice when I’m doing a long roadtrip and sitting at a charger for 20 minutes.
Does the rear brake light turn on when you're in single pedal mode? A lot of cars don't do this since regulators don't require it, but I'm not trying to get rear ended in poor visibility conditions
In the US there is no legislation for it, but EU has pretty strict rules that say that after a certain deceleration rate threshold, brake lights need to come on. If we take Hyundai Ioniq 5 (that is on the same platform) there is a chance that it might not come on in US under certain circumstances unless they changed something in the meantime. Technology Connections made a video about that some time ago.
It's been a while since an EV video on here, so I'm very happy to see Alex again showing off a cool car!
USD pricing is a bit off. Lowest end model is 54,900 and GT-Line is 73,900
It can depend on what state you live in. Sometimes cars can be cheaper or more expensive.
For reference, I'm a New Yorker
Great video guys hoping to get more detailed car videos in future good luck.
81k$? No thanks.
Hyundai Kona EV will stay king of price for a VERY long time. (still asking for a review of it)
Can we please get car reviews for vehicles we can actually afford?
Alex mentioned the maxxed out top trim price, but no mention of the base model price.
@@pileofstuff The base model is still $54,900 USD. That is still more than most people can afford in my area.
Test drove this on the weekend, Just put in our order for one of these!! Great review!
FINALLY!!!! Another car review!
Huh actually saw one today in the middle of nowhere finland, talk about coincidence.
I've seen one in The Netherlands and it just doesn't fit. Way too large and poor vision on cyclists. Also it guzzles power compared to my chonker ioniq 5. I really wish cars would shrink down again. It would help both efficiency and safety
I just want a fantastic compact that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg
to me, this looks like a HUGE Soul, which is a good thing. ive always been a fan of that little car. this has nice lines, good looking trim, and i do really like the interior layout. kia has really upped their game here
Don't recommend i-pedal or anything like that, it doesn't activate the brake light until you're almost at a complete stop, so vehicles behind you don't know you're slowing down to stop until the last second.
That's not my experience. Deceleration will trigger the brake light
@@rcoundon on select models yes but most of them won't, there's a RUclips I watch who went over this and even showed how his brake lights won't turn on until his ipedal comes to a complete stop.
@@tourmalino3205 I don't know where you're from but in the EU and UK there are directives that cars much adhere to in terms of the level of deceleration that results in brake lights coming on, it may be different in the US. In terms of other regenerative braking options, it's a similar situation to downshifting in an ICE in order to use the gearing/engine braking to slow the car which doesn't result in the brake lights illuminating.
Again, thank you guys so much for the frequency analysis charts in your car reviews. As a certified audio nut (and studio recording engineer), I *love* that stuff. I've generated these graphs for every car I've owned in an attempt to tune things, and my friends always think I'm crazy.
But what if Kia (USA) gave us the lightning patterns for free! No chump chump?
What if just crack the software and mod it yourself. I give it max 2months and you can buy a modded chip from china.
@@JPAK_92depending on the country you are living in, you might risk street legal, so you are not allowed to use them on public streets any more.
My KIA cars engine stalled after the dealership did an engine consumption test. The crank shaft broke and now they won’t honor their warranty even though my car is still under warranty. I drove the car only 30 miles after the oil consumption test and the engine blew up. I’m so disappointed in KIA they don’t care
New drinking game: drink whenever Alex says “exceptional”.
@@ArmyCop no, it’s fantastic.
Alex back on cars, thank you!
2:40 As a wildlife biologist that used to do work in remote areas, I can assure you that that measurement is surprisingly relevant
what measurement ya referring to
length measured in 6ft Alexes
@@phaldaz The "can I sleep in the back of my car" measurement
i can the popup handles being an issue in areas with freezing temperatures and the welcome light micro transaction is absolutely insane.
Any vehicle this size and height is inheritantly dangerous and anti-social. Terrible viability, max potential damage, tearing up the tarmac as much as 20 normal cars on the same road (not an exaggeration), can't be seen over by cyclists, just unnecessary.
US, the public, should make it socially negative to drive massive lumps like this as the oblivious people that buy them just do not realise the negativity they are spreading to their environment when they drive around other humans
I know right? A minivan can do everything this car can without mauling over pedestrians, this is just dangerous and stupid.
That canadian mixing of 'murcan and sensible units without text on the screen to translate between the two... Priceless!
When you're using the pedal regen braking function, do the brake lights active when you start lifting your foot off the pedal?
I hope they fixed that by now. Still would like to know the answer.
@donc-m4900 yup
@@Unwavering_Resolveyes they do, they've fixed all of them
That's not a car, that's a SUV. I always laugh at people saying we need to "do our part for the environment", who then get into their 2.5-3 metric ton SUVs and carry *nothing*.
@@MichelBertrand nothing you do with your personal vehicle has any measurable impact on the environment
Getting an IONIQ 6 pretty soon, thanks to you guys, and man I only wish I could have it in this beautiful metallic blue. but everyone knows, red goes faster anyways.
Ioniq 6 SE has a pretty sweet in dealership 24 month lease deal right now for $239/m 10k miles without any down payment
Ooof, imagine getting that inferior piece of junk.
Maybe you should step inside a K, backwards-N dealership before you buy it. Because you're gonna regret that the minute you need any sort of service or warranty.
If you ignore the high price, high maintenance and uncertainty as to if the battery can be repaired let alone replaced it’s great
I'm sorry did you say microtransactions in the $60,000 suv? KIA can go fork themselves.
Question: Will the handles manage to slide out if you leave the car out in a freezing snowing winter night or will they freeze thus preventing you to enter the car? And you should test this with every car that uses some stupid electronic crap for the doors instead of a normal mechanism.
that lounge mode is really useful for construction workers, In some sites I used to get in my car at lunch break to get away from the bugs (Australia)
I find it very funny that these days with computer help they can't get a drag coefficientsy below 0.2 but back before the computer was a tool for car designers they often got down to 0.19 and below
Computer's where suppose to make it possible to go lower then the old days not the other way around
2:27 But the question is whether you can put the seats in the normal position using the button in the trunk.
Because there are a lot of cars with this option of folding the seats that don't come back with the button on the trunk.
Idk if this is discussed later in the video
Boy does this sound like an advertisement!
Will the handles work at -20 C with a ice layer ?
The location and shots in this episode are insaneeeee
So pretty!
Nice rolling shots. Liked the one on the bridge since colors matched
Lets gooo Alex car reviews are back!!
Alex: It's 5 meters long
Me: Laughs in Yukon XL!
But also, yeah, bumper against the wall, there's only 3 inches to the garage door. But it fits!!
Those micro transactions on cars is gonna kill a lot of brands especially for something so simple as headlights. that's just plan greedy. Imagine a subscription for a/c and power seats. smh
whilst i do not agree with microtransactions at all for any reason. this is purely cosmetic, its not the actual headlight itself, just some flair on the side, who cares.
Seperate front and back hvac is genius. Cars usually have only 1 or 2 people in the car the vast majority of time.
Seen a few around Burnaby and Vancouver recently and mom seems to be a big fan of the EV9
Honestly, Kia has been killing it on basically all their designs over the last few years. The styling of even their lower tier cars looks really good.
Does this thing come with acceleration triggered guitar riffs as standard or do I have to pay more for that?
The lounge mode is for when your stuck charging and need to wait a whole big bang episode to get a few miles..
The Canadian Accent really comes out when he's excited about cars.
I might sound like a boomer but I was pretty into this car until I saw the front seats. I yearn for analogue dashboards, bring back buttons and knobs please. I see one massive touchscreen and I immediately think firmware updates, glitches, dead pixels, connectivity issues, planned obsolescence, etc.
Kinda crazy to have hardware and features already installed in your vehicle but locked behind a paywall to access, at least with road service buttons/heated seats it involves adding on to the vehicle or being serviced.
I really wish there was an option to get the smaller battery in the higher trims. Other reviews have noted you are penalized in charging rate and speed for going with the larger pack. You are NOT getting those 10-80% stats even in the best of conditions, and it will charge slower than their true 400V architecture like in the Ionic 5.
Finally a new car review! Still waiting for a video about a Volvo waggon (V60 🥰👀) tho
I wish I could afford a V60
A car that has microtransactions and door handles that can malfunction, all for $80k. What's not to love about it? Also, I wonder how likely it is that all of that interior plastic will get recycled...
Lounge mode makes sense in an electric vehicle because you will sometimes be waiting at a charger for 15 to 30 minutes or whatever.
When I saw the door handles I thought what would happen if your battery totally died to where you could not unlock it and you had something important in it. If you are not home or near a charger then it could be an issue. Of course I at most need cruise control. This is for others but alas not me. Oh well. Good review though.
Lounge mode is great when charging on a road trip
So Glad Linus let you do EV car reviews again!
Linus said this wasn't going to become a car review channel, but I want it to become a car review channel.
Love the review! Keep em coming boys
Nice. Alsays love the sound system review.
But... I was distracted by the finger prints on the driver's window that were right in the center of the frame for Alex's driving shots. 😮
How long until all the microtransactions are cracked?
really enjoy Alex's car reviews.. should be own channel
It is on the E-GMP platform same as the EV6 so charging will be 350kW (240kW actual)
I know you don’t do Tesla but if you could review the cyber truck would really interesting
Can y'all please do a comparison of various devices like the sponsored product here? (wireless Car-play/AA adapters, including ones that are basically a tablet that output via same...). I'd like to know their common issues, challenges, and things to look out for
What's funny to me is how some of the things that were criticized in past Tesla reviews are excused or glossed over in this video 🤔. Makes me wonder if this is an ad or they just really don't like Tesla because of it's musky CEO 😅.
I'd probably never use the third row, unless I stuck a couple of 5 years old back there. It works for me.
I got to see this at the Columbus Auto Show, and honestly it won best in show IMO. The only 3 manufacturers not present was BMW, Mazda and Tesla. All the new cars on the road, this hit me (and the Ioniq 5). I’m an Audi fanboy and would go with this EV9 over a Q5/Q7 equivelant. But I hear there’s a Q6 EV on the way, soooooo. :p