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  • @Variia
    @Variia Год назад +25

    I like how you showed good dks not doing the opener you showed literally 1 minute earlier lol

  • @kimpa3417
    @kimpa3417 Год назад +5

    You want a FS after the first oblit before pesti. You also want to cast DnD right before army.

    • @alexward8596
      @alexward8596 Год назад +1

      Why DnD before army?

    • @Tigerfan-qx2xq
      @Tigerfan-qx2xq Год назад

      @@alexward8596 it gives you some free runic power pre pull

    • @Tigerfan-qx2xq
      @Tigerfan-qx2xq Год назад

      @@alexward8596 Just make sure that all your runes are backed up on the pull

    • @alexward8596
      @alexward8596 Год назад +1

      @@Tigerfan-qx2xq oh yea I spam HoW/dnd the whole prepull. Also chain of icing rats as much as i can

  • @TownklerTrades
    @TownklerTrades Год назад +3

    Great video as always!! Keep up the amazing content

  • @WhackynutsGaming
    @WhackynutsGaming Год назад +5

    You should add what glyphs you should use for this spec aswell. Otherwise super great video. :D

  • @Fucking_Legend
    @Fucking_Legend 11 месяцев назад +1

    Am finding frost more fun than unholy for some reason, dont get me worrg unholy is also fun but frost has something thats really satisfying when playing it

    • @BREAKocean
      @BREAKocean 10 месяцев назад

      It feels more snappy and all toolkit feels impactful

  • @gscgold
    @gscgold Год назад +2

    Back in original wrath I remember frost dk duel weld weapons with agility... Why do I remember this because I was a rogue in ICC trying to get the one hand axes and we had two dks in the guild that always bid against me and the other rogue for weapons and trinkets..i can't recall why agi was good for frost dk at the time but I wasn't happy about it.

    • @Heinzold
      @Heinzold 11 месяцев назад +5

      agi isn't good for dks but there are no slow onehanders with str

    • @DakotaNator
      @DakotaNator 10 месяцев назад +1

      Agility = more crit my frost dk does 41.75 crit with horn of winter and 34 precent Armour pen

  • @darkdragunov5265
    @darkdragunov5265 Год назад

    Thanks bro! Good shit!

  • @twohandsdk
    @twohandsdk 9 месяцев назад +2

    my guy that opening isnt that great, the 2nd line leaves about 6 sec where you are just auto attacking.... yyou couuld weave FS and BS in that slot and increase youur over all dps

  • @jamie5mauser
    @jamie5mauser 6 месяцев назад

    Help me understand blood tap. You use one frost rune to turn a blood rune into a death rune. So youre basically trading a frost rune for a death rune. Why not just use that frost rune for your obliterate? seems like an even trade in the end?

  • @allencruz8746
    @allencruz8746 Год назад

    Sarthe! Love the guides bro. What’s the weak aura you use to track trinket internal CD. Thanks mate

  • @HollowdTV
    @HollowdTV 9 месяцев назад

    did Sarthe ever post a vid talking abou the desync rotation? im assuming that means when you end up with your runes out of sync. This happens to me every so often and is causing me to lose a lot of DPS. tip are welcome thanks!

  • @WotsDis
    @WotsDis Год назад +7

    Why not do ERW -> 3x Obliterates instead of having a frost strike after the 2nd? It puts your runes on CD earlier. You can frost strike after anyways

    • @sulida54
      @sulida54 Год назад +3

      You are capping out your runic power

    • @MultiBamb00cha
      @MultiBamb00cha Год назад +2

      Capping RP, and delaying oblit by up to 2,5 seconds to do a frost strike as your runes are coming back up is actually good due to rune grace period

    • @tjpfz6
      @tjpfz6 Год назад +3

      These streamers aint always right.
      ERW is so good. IDC what these streamers say, it allows the dk to be more versatile with runes. I know these dudes min max thing to an unreal amount but... they're going for some mythical number on a website.
      As long as im pumping and having fun (which ERW is so much more fun) then thats all that matters anyways

    • @Kira-ct3zv
      @Kira-ct3zv Год назад +3

      @travis polton your advice is incorrect and would lead to overcappjng runic power and therefore losing DPS. You do you, but if other people wanna minmax dps you shouldn’t be giving out wrong advice, Sarthe here is correct in his opener rotation and the numbers literally prove it 😂 isn’t it inconvenient when the numbers don’t match with your perception of the game 😂I’d love to compare your parses with Sarthe and see who knows more about DK rotations hahaha

    • @alexward8596
      @alexward8596 Год назад +2

      @@tjpfz6 You're trying to make it seem like you have some unknown wisdom about the rotation but just look at top parsers in the world, you'll see a variance in the opener. Whether they triple oblit or weave in a FS before the 3rd oblit... they're still top parsing. Hello it's a RNG proc based class

  • @Farfarawai
    @Farfarawai 4 месяца назад

    how the rotation will look at the execution phase? i dont really get it

  • @XxKinGzxX100
    @XxKinGzxX100 Год назад +1

    I don't understand the theory in the 'execute' phase? Surely this should just come into play throughout the course of a fight because blood tap is on a 1-minute cooldown. Is there a specific mechanic Dks get when the boss is in execute phase I don't know about?

    • @alaskanpipeline100
      @alaskanpipeline100 Год назад +1

      Frost talent. Your moves do 12% increased dmg to targets 35% or below

    • @XxKinGzxX100
      @XxKinGzxX100 Год назад

      @@alaskanpipeline100 thank you brother

  • @JasonRSapien
    @JasonRSapien Год назад +1

    SARTHE Can you please post a link to all of the WA’s that you use!

  • @mowglimon
    @mowglimon Год назад +1

    whats the addon called that shows ur howling blast proc?

  • @XxLyrokxX98
    @XxLyrokxX98 Год назад +4

    *Desynced rotation*

    • @oneyellowfellow6345
      @oneyellowfellow6345 4 месяца назад

      ?

    • @XxLyrokxX98
      @XxLyrokxX98 4 месяца назад

      @@oneyellowfellow6345 frostdk desynced rotation , but no idea what you mean since its been 1 year lmao

  • @bavarianwolf3806
    @bavarianwolf3806 Год назад +1

    is there a addon or weakaura where i can save the opener or it shows what to press next? I play 4 chars in classic and i mess it up sometimes cause of brain afk ^^

    • @robertgleich7277
      @robertgleich7277 Год назад +1

      Come on, the opener is really easy.
      IT, PS, Blood Tap, Unbreakable Armor, Obli, Frost Strike, Pestilence, Empower, Obli, Obli, Obli, FS, FS, FS. That can't be too much.

  • @Aaronisabeast187
    @Aaronisabeast187 Год назад +1

    What do you do once the first 80 button rotation is done though?

    • @smokeythebear3399
      @smokeythebear3399 Год назад +1

      pretty sure its a prio system keeping diseases up > oblit > frost strike with killing machine > then use rime procs > frost strike without killing machine

  • @RunnerJong17
    @RunnerJong17 Год назад

    What is that add on or is it weak aura
    That shows you what you currently click on the middle Left side of your screen

  • @ekleduden
    @ekleduden Год назад

    1 Bit: DOINK!
    I like frost DK

  • @Cheezecake21
    @Cheezecake21 Год назад

    Phenomenal

  • @Varifyr
    @Varifyr Год назад

    your audio is amazing

  • @alikongg
    @alikongg 10 месяцев назад

    What about unholy sub-spec rotation?

  • @brianbowen9024
    @brianbowen9024 Год назад

    Frost/blood or Frost/Unholy, frost/unholy says it sims higher but everyone is going frost/blood... wowhead says if ur gear sucks go frost/blood, so which is better in Uld?

  • @remikvernmoen
    @remikvernmoen Год назад

    hi sarthe love your guide for frost dk do i use blood boil or death coil and death strike hope you can help me

    • @sopan13
      @sopan13 Год назад

      Blood boil is used over blood strike in aoe situations, death coil is never used as frost since you have frost strike and death strike is used in emergency situations were you might die if you dont get some health asap.

  • @tradermurgor7102
    @tradermurgor7102 Год назад

    How do you get the procs for Killing Machine and Rime like that? Are you using an addon ?

  • @KyleMechler
    @KyleMechler Год назад

    Sheet isn't linked in the description.

  • @killerhawks
    @killerhawks Год назад

    Any change this will be update for icc?

  • @Jayraypay
    @Jayraypay Год назад

    Can you link me the frost unholy spec ? I can’t seem to find it anywhere

  • @devlinabe
    @devlinabe Год назад

    can u share your weaknessaura rotation?

  • @Aaronisabeast187
    @Aaronisabeast187 Год назад

    Also my pets never attack as frost. I don't have a pet bar since I don't have a point in the talent. How do I get my ghouls / army to attack without being attacked? Sometimes they just stand there....

    • @maldiakbar8451
      @maldiakbar8451 Год назад

      Yeah I also do not get a pet bar if I'm in frost talent. So the raise of the dead button its useless for me

    • @louiskrathmannjensen8040
      @louiskrathmannjensen8040 Год назад

      /petattack

    • @jasonlucia6682
      @jasonlucia6682 Год назад

      #showtooltip
      /cast raise dead
      /petattack
      that should work, might have to hit it again once your ghoul is up.

  • @ElemorOG
    @ElemorOG Год назад

    What are they going to nerfed - refering to something you mentioned around 2min

  • @uros776
    @uros776 11 месяцев назад

    What addons do you use

  • @gapatoa
    @gapatoa 9 месяцев назад

    Add "Classic" in your title ;-)

  • @telemental
    @telemental Год назад +1

    if its always the same opener, can you just do a cast sequence macro and spam this macro until you transition to you normal rotation?

    • @alexward8596
      @alexward8596 Год назад +5

      Not ideal, sometimes during your triple oblit you'll weave in a frost strike... sometimes not. This class requires on-the-fly decision making, play a ret pal if you want a one-button macro'd rotation.

    • @ferrer985
      @ferrer985 Год назад

      @@alexward8596 it still is a pretty straight forward sequence cause if you weave in an additional FS then your diseases will drop off before the final pestilence

  • @ziadramman
    @ziadramman Год назад +1

    Why are we doing a Obliterate before pestilence and not after ERW for 3 in a row? Also the Chinese logs show an Obliterate + Frost Striek before Pestilence. Im confused.

    • @lkx
      @lkx Год назад +1

      u can do obliterate, pestilence, ERW and 3 obliterates

    • @jayd8091
      @jayd8091 Год назад +4

      Because if you pest after ERW you lose a possible Obli and either waste a blood rune or just gain a blood strike which is nothing. If you do: IT > PS > BS > Blood Tap > Unbreakable armor> Oblit > PEST > ERW > 3x Oblit > FS spam > Oblit x2 > Pest (Or Oblit > Pest > Oblit depending on input delay) and you get all that without losing your dots, it works out just perfectly on time. to min max your opener.

    • @ziadramman
      @ziadramman Год назад

      @@lkx I just tried it, you can. Been wasting a free Obl this whole time.

    • @leohuxtable439
      @leohuxtable439 Год назад +1

      @@ziadramman Guessing most of the time timings/resources just work out best with pestilence to ERW. Likely squeeze a FS in with KM proc before if it shows up. I'm about 55% that you can unbind Blood Strike for a minimal dps loss after you get your 4piece. Maybe even before. Not that it matters in the opening, but that's the only really important time to flip both blood runes.

    • @TimG3394
      @TimG3394 Год назад

      @@leohuxtable439you definitely want BS to set up your blood runes for your second trip oblit

  • @MichaelSzemethy
    @MichaelSzemethy Год назад

    Whats normal rotation?

  • @cat4luny4
    @cat4luny4 Год назад

    is it worth to prepot before army?

    • @CDuff86
      @CDuff86 Год назад

      If you want to buff your army, yes. Indestructible potion seems to be the goto, but I've seen others use potions of speed. What's best? No idea 🤣

  • @zeitthom
    @zeitthom Год назад +1

    can someone tell me whats the macro for blood tap, unbreakable armor etc. is?

  • @Belton81cougars
    @Belton81cougars Год назад

    Can you tank heroics in this spec? I have some naxx 10 epics and heroic tank gear

    • @Belton81cougars
      @Belton81cougars Год назад

      Been looking for a frost spec that can dps and tank

    • @grygas8048
      @grygas8048 Год назад +1

      Yes, ez

    • @korenn9381
      @korenn9381 Год назад

      DK can tank heroics in any spec. Just gather some tank gear and you're good to go.

  • @Simonsays48
    @Simonsays48 Год назад

    Sometimes my army dont attack...why?

  • @valenprince9802
    @valenprince9802 Год назад +2

    Why is indestructible being nerfed?

    • @Pr3d1ct0r
      @Pr3d1ct0r Год назад

      it will put other pots on 2 min CD instead of one so you won't be able to stack indestructible+haste pot at the start of combat

    • @Tigerfan-qx2xq
      @Tigerfan-qx2xq Год назад

      It's gonna nerf Warriors as well. Personally I was able to consistently stack the indestructible potion with the haste potion pre pot plus an extra haste potion in combat. So this one is gonna hurt for sure for frost

    • @korenn9381
      @korenn9381 Год назад +1

      @@Pr3d1ct0r technically that's the answer to "how?" not "why"... as to why - who the fuck knows with Blizzard. Possibly they really hate anyone using more than 1 potion per encounter so they thought they should do something about the situation where DKs are using 3 (so who knows if they'll do something about pre-potting).

    • @nikolaykertev2457
      @nikolaykertev2457 Год назад

      @@korenn9381 its a stupid mechanic

  • @dudebro2638
    @dudebro2638 Год назад

    Also would like to mention if you start the fight with killing machine proc you want to use Coi instead of icy touch.

    • @rquintero3
      @rquintero3 Год назад

      What’s coi?

    • @corzarguy
      @corzarguy Год назад +1

      @@rquintero3 Chains of Ice? The heck

    • @rquintero3
      @rquintero3 Год назад

      @@corzarguy I thought you meant coil

    • @corzarguy
      @corzarguy Год назад

      @@rquintero3 I did too, I meant to reply to him, the 'the heck' was a reaction to what he could be meaning 😳

    • @StaatsAttackk
      @StaatsAttackk Год назад

      @@corzarguy i think he means so you dont waste the proc on your icy touch and can use it on your first frost strike

  • @krisklausen2538
    @krisklausen2538 Год назад +1

    The one who can make the simplest Rime proc weak aura notice, without my screen beeing bloated by exotic mega weakauras that nobody but the creator understands until a few months have passed, wins a big prize from me.

    • @toszabolcs
      @toszabolcs Год назад +1

      Frost DK procs weakaura, its just like on retail simple animation

    • @TheRab101
      @TheRab101 Год назад +1

      My friend made one which literally just displays the icon on your screen when it is active with a count down on how long you have left to use

    • @Variia
      @Variia Год назад +2

      Are people really too bad to make a simple proc weakaura themselves? How do you put on your shoes? Or is someone doing that for you too?

    • @krisklausen2538
      @krisklausen2538 Год назад +2

      @@Variia wow toxic. But yeah. I'll go look into it when you put it like that. How do you make a cheese souffle? or is somebody cooking for you when it is more than 3 ingredients?

    • @TheRab101
      @TheRab101 Год назад

      @@Variia this guy sucks!

  • @B0xER911
    @B0xER911 Год назад

    1 button macroed this. I dont care

  • @JohnSmith-ry8tj
    @JohnSmith-ry8tj Год назад +2

    Here is a master tip for you to increase your dmg as frost.... stop using Angry Dreads over Last Laugh.

    • @its_grapejuice4135
      @its_grapejuice4135 Год назад

      huh

    • @Iggnil
      @Iggnil Год назад

      Really?

    • @Snxgur
      @Snxgur Год назад

      ur wrong

    • @JohnSmith-ry8tj
      @JohnSmith-ry8tj Год назад +1

      @@Snxgur why? Because your favorite BIS list creator copied and pasted the same thing everyone else did? The dps of LL is substantially higher, a significant portion of FDK dmg comes from auto attacks, check your own logs if you actually play the class.

    • @bendrix92
      @bendrix92 Год назад +2

      a quick sim of 30k iterations with 2 Last Laughs is a 319dps loss vs 30k iterations with 2 Angry Dreads. As a non robot, id prolly lose even more dmg. Sure we get a decent amount of dmg from melee, but we get the most from our oblits and frost strikes, which take our weapon dmg(not to be confused with weapon DPS). Angry Dread has a higher base dmg(we disregard the dps part) than Last Laugh, so our oblits are bigger. Unholy likes Last Laugh because they do indeed get a massive chunk of their dmg from their melee outside of gary and DnD dmg since they dont take SS anymore, so for them the DPS part on a weapon is more important. Dunno man, the sim has never really done me wrong.. there's certainly cases of margins of error.. but 300+ dps loss is far beyond any margin of error for a sim to make.

  • @karamelapple8007
    @karamelapple8007 Год назад

    Dk is dead after the nerf
    Squishy at 409 ilvl

  • @jaygozer3883
    @jaygozer3883 Год назад

    Terrible and overly complicated

  • @checrallahdc
    @checrallahdc Год назад

    in P3 is indistructible potion no longer a thing?

    • @Heinzold
      @Heinzold 11 месяцев назад

      If your gear is good enough (especialls your weapons) you swap to frost with unholy subspec. Then the armor pots don't do anything for you anymore.

  • @donniecarlson9677
    @donniecarlson9677 Год назад +2

    man stole this directly off the rank one frost dks youtube. skumy

    • @PsychoPala
      @PsychoPala Год назад

      Who ?

    • @tylerk8622
      @tylerk8622 Год назад

      Why would the simmed, best opener be changed from youtuber to youtuber? lol

    • @donniecarlson9677
      @donniecarlson9677 Год назад

      @Tyler K obviously the rotation is the same. He stole the guys graphic used in his video.

  • @gellertn
    @gellertn Год назад

    How would your opener change if you didnt have ERW up?