Good choice Jonas! Interesting topic - I am using this method now for a while for me and my sons and my experience is that for all our different rackets the tension is lasting longer. So for me 👍 for Sergetti
I've used Sergetti for a while and it was a good intro to variable tension stringing, but ended up not liking very high tensions on upper crosses the Sergetti prescribes. I'm also not sure I believe their numbers come from sound testing and analysis. I now string by using the general goal of evening out stringbed response by progressively lowering tensions towards more unstable areas. I take into account string spacing and the fact that as you string crosses the friction increases. It's an approximation art form, but the results have been very good and I feel more even than with Sergetti maps right from the first hit.
50 variables were used in the calculations; this will require large amount of data from blind play testing, and it seems to me bordering on voodoo science.
I don’t see how this is a thing. Once you start hitting balls, the tension on the strings will naturally even out. I would expect that it would work for maybe 15-20 min of hitting. After that, most of the center will even out with the sides a bit more slowly. This whole thing sounds like a way for a company to take easy money with no upside to the consumer.
Draw your string pattern on a piece of paper. Starting from the center strings, and working outward, label them 60lbs, and reduce them by 5 lbs each string. Bam! The Sulzener stringing method. Free.
Thanks for video. Your channel is very informative, keep up good work. One minor, yet important safety point: the player in near court needs to get into habit of cleaning his court (“clear lose balls”). Many points were played with balls lingering around the play area, and one point the ball was rolling by players feet. Unless the player plays with pads and a helmet, and is on a subscription basis with his urgent care clinic that is.
The overall feel/play from the sergetti stringing method of what you said basically sounded like reducing the overall tension of the racket. So I am a little confused is the sergetti stringing method supposed to achieve your 55lbs string tension?
I could feel the effects of what you mentioned with Sergetti stringing with manual proportional stringing method (ratio of each string length and tension) 😀.
Wasn't impressed by Sergetti stringing at all. Bought 2 different tension sheets, strung up 2 different racquets with different strings at the suggested tensions. The sweetspot did feel slightly more forgiving and there was better touch, but that was short lived and after about 2 hours of play, I'd say both racquets were worse than a normal string job. Not for me.
Wouldnt the tension only be like that for a couple hours at most? Shanking the ball outside the sweet spot will start evening the high tension from the center to the low tension on the outside :/
If it was so good Federer, Nadal, Djokovic would already be using it. So I guess if someone comes into the shop with a Sergetti sheet they will be treated the same way as a someone with racquetball racquet. Of course adjusting the tension setting on each string would be a pain and time consuming and prone to errors but nothing compared to racquetball racquet stringing.
Wow... so many haters. I did this and instead of a 2 piece stringing approach I used a 35 piece technique. By tying off each string it assured proper tension maintenance. I'm guessing most critics are too lazy to do this and/or too cheap to buy the 120 feet of string needed to string a racquet "properly". Best of all, the 16oz., head-heavy balance really helps plow through.
Sergetti seems more like a snake oil to me. If you string the Sergetti method, you are going to have a much lower tension string bed because you will end up having a much lower average tension across your mains and crosses and so it will feel plusher, softer and more power and spin. Sergetti's method would only be valid if each main and cross were independently tied off and cut off from all others. Otherwise whether you go for a one-piece or two-piece string job, all "strings" that are physically connected to each other will have the same final tension as soon as you tie off and cut. It's not like each string's tension stays static as soon as it passes through the grommet and turns the corner into the adjacent one.
Incorrect. This can be easily observed by taking a sharpie and marking strings next to grommets after stringing. Try this. Play with racquet strung using any proportional method and then come back and tell us what you observe. Hint: You won’t find massive string movement.
This is a pretty common approach for badminton racquets when the frames are much more vulnerable. However, it’s pretty sketchy how Sergetti comes up with the “recipe”. I usually think one should experiment on their own string setups (including stringing pattern/methods/tension variation)
I tried it and the string bed was unbearably stiff. I think this was due to them having poly crosses in excess of 60 lbs! My selected tension on Gamma Moto Soft 17 poly was 48 lbs.
Hi there! Seems like head has came out with the New classic PT 2.0. Could you please do a review of it! And also compare it to the original PT280 and the new Prestige MP😁
No, the tension(s) will not "even out". Tension does not migrate from one string to another (there is too much friction involved). This is the case for non-Sergetti stringing, that might involve a tension differential (for example: mains at #55 and crosses at #50), so the tensions aren't going to migrate in a Sergetti strung racquet either.
been using it for a couple months. it seems like the different tensions "settle down" or even out after a short while. any one else think that is wha is happening ?t
Yes, this would definitely drive a tournament stringer nuts. Also, the "sweet spot" is literally a spot, it is not an area. This stringing method might create a larger area on the string face that responds a certain way, but technically it is not possible to "expand" the sweet spot.
Chris, no. There is too much friction that would have to be overcome from the bends/turns through the grommets. Here is where I once tried explaining it to someone who couldn't seem to "get it". See post #24 in this TT thread... tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/different-string-tension-mains-and-crosses.506183/#post-8561620 If you really want a technical explanation of why a lower force can still hold a greater force (due to friction), without them simply "equaling out", look up the Capstan Effect, or simply look at the diagram seen here... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capstan_equation
I dont get it. Why would you want the stringbed to have a bigger sweet spot? Sure everyone wants that but the sweet spot is an area where the racquet has more power. Why maximize that? I want my stringbed to be consistent everywhere I hit. Serghetti wouldnt work for me anyhow because I use 86lbs which is what my stringer maxes out at.
@@taytay8732 well its a number of factors. High swing weight (405) a 110” and a stiff racquet means lots of power in the racquet. I need those tensions for control. Ironically its really arm friendly in my racquet.
Hey Jonas! I have a question for you that's been confusing me, and thought you'd be the perfect person to ask. Recently I came across a forum post where someone was claiming that a "custom grip" and/or "wonder wedge" is more important than the racquet itself. He also claimed that it was "one of the key things" that got him from 4.0 to 5.0. This concerns me as I have literally never heard about this before coming across this thread and that being said, I'm someone who wants to improve my game the most I absolutely can, but getting my grips customized sounds strange and very costly. I'm confused on how it can be so amazing yet nobody talks about this, and I would much rather have to not worry about it, and being able to play with stock grips (given the correct grip size ofcourse). Any advice here? apologies for the lengthy question!
Don't fall for miracle mods - if you are comfortable with your racket grip and can relax your wrist while swinging it fast then you have everything you need to play very high-level tennis.
I was at the absolute top of my game in high school, got demolished by a retiree using his old Pro Staff 85s that were strung with synthetic gut a decade prior. Most important things are taking ball early, fitness, and mental. If you look at top pros, they often have an in-between grip size, but that's just because it's what they prefer. For instance, I have an L4 racquet and grip is too big, so I replaced with thinner base grip and overgrip. Is that a "custom grip"? If you're using the wrong grip size, then changing it will likely help you improve. Too small grip gives you less stability, too big grip can limit power and spin. But it won't affect your shoulder turn, footwork, core muscles, etc.
@@Tennisnerd wow thank you so much for replying! And wow I had no idea this existed ahaha 1995!? Crazy! Teal is my favorite color so I have been looking for something 😅 can I ask what's your current favorite racquet?
I thought was this was complete garbage. $30 wasted. Think about - if it was genuinely so great, why isn't everyone using it including all the pros? There's your answer right there.
Wow when I'm looking at this video 2 years later you can see that you really improved your technique.
loving all the content, both the videos and written articles on tennisnerd.net. keep up the good work!
Thanks! 🙏🏼
Good choice Jonas! Interesting topic - I am using this method now for a while for me and my sons and my experience is that for all our different rackets the tension is lasting longer. So for me 👍 for Sergetti
I've used Sergetti for a while and it was a good intro to variable tension stringing, but ended up not liking very high tensions on upper crosses the Sergetti prescribes. I'm also not sure I believe their numbers come from sound testing and analysis. I now string by using the general goal of evening out stringbed response by progressively lowering tensions towards more unstable areas. I take into account string spacing and the fact that as you string crosses the friction increases. It's an approximation art form, but the results have been very good and I feel more even than with Sergetti maps right from the first hit.
50 variables were used in the calculations; this will require large amount of data from blind play testing, and it seems to me bordering on voodoo science.
Unless you tie a knot on every cross and main, it doesn’t matter if you change tensions. The grommets aren’t going to block tension from a string.
I don’t see how this is a thing. Once you start hitting balls, the tension on the strings will naturally even out. I would expect that it would work for maybe 15-20 min of hitting. After that, most of the center will even out with the sides a bit more slowly. This whole thing sounds like a way for a company to take easy money with no upside to the consumer.
Draw your string pattern on a piece of paper. Starting from the center strings, and working outward, label them 60lbs, and reduce them by 5 lbs each string. Bam! The Sulzener stringing method. Free.
Absolutelty. The tested method for me is a huge snakeoil product.
Thanks for video. Your channel is very informative, keep up good work. One minor, yet important safety point: the player in near court needs to get into habit of cleaning his court (“clear lose balls”). Many points were played with balls lingering around the play area, and one point the ball was rolling by players feet. Unless the player plays with pads and a helmet, and is on a subscription basis with his urgent care clinic that is.
Yes, good point!
The overall feel/play from the sergetti stringing method of what you said basically sounded like reducing the overall tension of the racket. So I am a little confused is the sergetti stringing method supposed to achieve your 55lbs string tension?
I could feel the effects of what you mentioned with Sergetti stringing with manual proportional stringing method (ratio of each string length and tension) 😀.
Wasn't impressed by Sergetti stringing at all. Bought 2 different tension sheets, strung up 2 different racquets with different strings at the suggested tensions. The sweetspot did feel slightly more forgiving and there was better touch, but that was short lived and after about 2 hours of play, I'd say both racquets were worse than a normal string job. Not for me.
Wouldnt the tension only be like that for a couple hours at most? Shanking the ball outside the sweet spot will start evening the high tension from the center to the low tension on the outside :/
If it was so good Federer, Nadal, Djokovic would already be using it. So I guess if someone comes into the shop with a Sergetti sheet they will be treated the same way as a someone with racquetball racquet. Of course adjusting the tension setting on each string would be a pain and time consuming and prone to errors but nothing compared to racquetball racquet stringing.
Do you no longer hit with a one hander? Or are you just experimenting with a two hander?
Just playing around :)
After awhile does the sagitta stringing start going back to normal stringing
Are there any pros who use this stringing method?
Wow... so many haters. I did this and instead of a 2 piece stringing approach I used a 35 piece technique. By tying off each string it assured proper tension maintenance.
I'm guessing most critics are too lazy to do this and/or too cheap to buy the 120 feet of string needed to string a racquet "properly".
Best of all, the 16oz., head-heavy balance really helps plow through.
Great review thank you .
Sergetti seems more like a snake oil to me. If you string the Sergetti method, you are going to have a much lower tension string bed because you will end up having a much lower average tension across your mains and crosses and so it will feel plusher, softer and more power and spin. Sergetti's method would only be valid if each main and cross were independently tied off and cut off from all others. Otherwise whether you go for a one-piece or two-piece string job, all "strings" that are physically connected to each other will have the same final tension as soon as you tie off and cut. It's not like each string's tension stays static as soon as it passes through the grommet and turns the corner into the adjacent one.
Incorrect. This can be easily observed by taking a sharpie and marking strings next to grommets after stringing. Try this. Play with racquet strung using any proportional method and then come back and tell us what you observe. Hint: You won’t find massive string movement.
This is a pretty common approach for badminton racquets when the frames are much more vulnerable. However, it’s pretty sketchy how Sergetti comes up with the “recipe”. I usually think one should experiment on their own string setups (including stringing pattern/methods/tension variation)
I tried it and the string bed was unbearably stiff. I think this was due to them having poly crosses in excess of 60 lbs! My selected tension on Gamma Moto Soft 17 poly was 48 lbs.
Hi there! Seems like head has came out with the New classic PT 2.0. Could you please do a review of it! And also compare it to the original PT280 and the new Prestige MP😁
Yes coming up!
In time will the cross string (or main string) tension eventually become uniform/same?
No, the tension(s) will not "even out".
Tension does not migrate from one string to another (there is too much friction involved).
This is the case for non-Sergetti stringing, that might involve a tension differential (for example: mains at #55 and crosses at #50), so the tensions aren't going to migrate in a Sergetti strung racquet either.
been using it for a couple months. it seems like the different tensions "settle down" or even out after a short while. any one else think that is wha is happening ?t
Yes, this would definitely drive a tournament stringer nuts. Also, the "sweet spot" is literally a spot, it is not an area. This stringing method might create a larger area on the string face that responds a certain way, but technically it is not possible to "expand" the sweet spot.
doesnt the tension eventually even out? i mean there is nothing locking the tension from string to string ...only on the ends
Chris, no.
There is too much friction that would have to be overcome from the bends/turns through the grommets.
Here is where I once tried explaining it to someone who couldn't seem to "get it".
See post #24 in this TT thread...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/different-string-tension-mains-and-crosses.506183/#post-8561620
If you really want a technical explanation of why a lower force can still hold a greater force (due to friction), without them simply "equaling out", look up the Capstan Effect, or simply look at the diagram seen here... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capstan_equation
I dont get it. Why would you want the stringbed to have a bigger sweet spot? Sure everyone wants that but the sweet spot is an area where the racquet has more power. Why maximize that? I want my stringbed to be consistent everywhere I hit. Serghetti wouldnt work for me anyhow because I use 86lbs which is what my stringer maxes out at.
Why are you stringing at 86 pounds? Not trolling, really asking. My arm already hurts thinking about it
@@taytay8732 well its a number of factors. High swing weight (405) a 110” and a stiff racquet means lots of power in the racquet. I need those tensions for control. Ironically its really arm friendly in my racquet.
Hey Jonas! I have a question for you that's been confusing me, and thought you'd be the perfect person to ask. Recently I came across a forum post where someone was claiming that a "custom grip" and/or "wonder wedge" is more important than the racquet itself. He also claimed that it was "one of the key things" that got him from 4.0 to 5.0. This concerns me as I have literally never heard about this before coming across this thread and that being said, I'm someone who wants to improve my game the most I absolutely can, but getting my grips customized sounds strange and very costly. I'm confused on how it can be so amazing yet nobody talks about this, and I would much rather have to not worry about it, and being able to play with stock grips (given the correct grip size ofcourse). Any advice here? apologies for the lengthy question!
Don't fall for miracle mods - if you are comfortable with your racket grip and can relax your wrist while swinging it fast then you have everything you need to play very high-level tennis.
I was at the absolute top of my game in high school, got demolished by a retiree using his old Pro Staff 85s that were strung with synthetic gut a decade prior. Most important things are taking ball early, fitness, and mental.
If you look at top pros, they often have an in-between grip size, but that's just because it's what they prefer. For instance, I have an L4 racquet and grip is too big, so I replaced with thinner base grip and overgrip. Is that a "custom grip"?
If you're using the wrong grip size, then changing it will likely help you improve. Too small grip gives you less stability, too big grip can limit power and spin. But it won't affect your shoulder turn, footwork, core muscles, etc.
Can you tell me what the teal colored racquet is!?
it's a Babolat Soft Drive first edition from 1995 or so
@@Tennisnerd wow thank you so much for replying! And wow I had no idea this existed ahaha 1995!? Crazy! Teal is my favorite color so I have been looking for something 😅 can I ask what's your current favorite racquet?
I read spaghetti stringing method and clicked
What's with the two handed backhand?!
I thought was this was complete garbage. $30 wasted. Think about - if it was genuinely so great, why isn't everyone using it including all the pros? There's your answer right there.
it was a completly disaster for me i cut it after 2 hours
Seems like you have some hardcore animal fans cheering you on😉
review the Head Pro Tour 2.0 pls!!!!
Your strokes look odd - very unusual awkward technique
What a truly shitty thing to say... yuck 🤢
Obviously a troll comment.
why am I hearing roosters in the background? 😂😅
Because there are roosters behind the court! Quite a distraction :D