@@TheAgentAssassin No, RDJ was next level. I’m from that time era, and I dabbled in it like most people from that era. How many people broke in a random house, so they could sleep on some strangers bed? RDJ did, and when the parents came home, they found him in their child’s bedroom.
I watched the documentary last night. It’s quite moving, honestly. The amount of growth they all took from being labeled as “The Brat Pack” is commendable. I enjoyed his interactions with everyone that he reconnected with. However, when presented the opportunity to meet the reporter that essentially “ruined” the careers of these actors is emotional (to me anyway). To come face to face with anyone that caused any riff to your life has got to be so difficult. I know, personally, that I have struggled with the thought that if I ever got a chance to be face to face with the ones that ruined my life, what would I do. So watching Andrew face his demon, so to speak, gives off a different demeanor. It’s very admirable and he should be very proud of himself!
Me too. I tend to think of those before his Brat Pack movies. Joy Luck Club in the early '90s, too. I don't think he gets enough credit for that great small part.
@@pjdexter168 My favorite Spader role ever. His pivot from who he was in Pretty In Pink to that nerdy little manager in Mannequin is so hilarious and well-played.
Anthony Michael Hall said in a fly on the wall interview with David Spade & Dana Harvey that his career is more forward thinking and wants different types of roles and different career so he didn't join because it is like being regressive
Anthony Michael Hall said in a Fly on the Wall interview with David Spade & Dana Harvey that his career is going in a forward thinking direction, and he has different roles and a different career path. So joining the brat pack would be a bit regressive for him at this point in his life. I like his outlook
I had such a huge crush on Andrew McCarthy during those times. I still have one since he’s older, and he’s aged so well. Andrew is still a good looking guy, and just seems so down to earth. I wish James Spader was part of the pack. He was in a lot of those movies too. Andrew directed many scenes with James in his latest show. I always thought James is a talented actor.
It was actually more of a combination of St. Elmo's Fire and the Breakfast Club. Molly and Anthony are added in there, but initially from the article by David Blum, it was Emilio, Judd, and Rob.
Neither was Andrew McCarthy at first. Most of them were from LA. The New York, magazine front cover even cut out McCarthy and left Rob, Emilio and Judd from a photo from the movie St. Elmo's Fire.
@@jbjacobs9514 It isn’t an official fraternity. That was always a silly conversation, who’s actually in the brat pack? Sometimes they’d lump Tom Cruise in there. Then there was this ridiculous notion that you had to be involved with John Hughes works to be in the brat pack and so on. But the most common names were mentioned in this video.
@@katxl7 Yep. Saw that. Like briefly at an mtv movie premiere screening. JS having been in a 3-4 BP-ish films seems he’d have made a great “BP-adjacent” interview.
He really did. But if they’re going to interview Cryer, Hutton and L Thompson as “BP adjacent”, Spader’s take would’ve been pretty compelling if only because of his unique position at that time. Pretty in Pink to Less than Zero showed linear growth for both he and McCarthy.
@@AngkarYearZero And you see yourself as a messenger of some kind? A messiah who will shepherd us into the light? Someone who doesn't have the good sense to just go elsewhere when they're somewhere they don't like being? Again, WHY ARE YOU HERE IF ACTORS ARE SO BORING AND UNINTERESTING? Why aren't you going somewhere the people are not boring as you claim them to be? You're not the messenger you think you are, kiddo. You're just a bitter person who sits behind a computer and talks crap about people they don't know and have never met because you have no life and nothing better to do with your time.
Team Blaine all day. They had a normal snag because of normal human feelings of Blaine working up the courage to challenge his peers. Ducky needed to love himself first. For her to be almost borderline disinterested in his presence the entire movie to sudden romantic chemistry? Nah, I much prefer Kristy Swanson showing up and displaying real interest in him from the start, which is what he deserved.
Andrew let that ruin his career. You can still see he doesn’t understand, that’s why he’s looking for emotional validation but it’s not there. Everyone had their hit or hits. I can only think of WAB (not including bratpack films) because everything else was so odd. I like him as an actor though you can see everyone moved on and it honestly feels like he didn’t want to.
Love all the Brat Pack movies!!! Pretty in Pink was my favorite!!!! They all look great!!! The 80's the best time in my life. The movies the great music the clothes The cars, everything about it was the best of the best!!!!! 🩷🩷🩷🩷!!!!! Loved the Hulu Special, with Andrew !!!!! Great Job!!! Great nostalgia... Thank You!!!! 🎉🎉🎉..
Andrew McCarthy didn’t want anything to do with being part of the Brat Pack. So much so, that he revisits the painful situation 40 years later. He was always a weasel…
McCarthy’s entire premise behind his book & documentary hinges on casting & talent agents not knowing what they were doing from 1985 onward. Which is false. The town simply didn’t see him - and some of the others - as the best choice for various features. With some of the others, it was an issue of their attitudes toward peers & representatives. Michael Hall infamously alienated Stanley Kubrick, ffs... The cream rises, always. Robert Downey, Jr., Sean Penn, James Spader, Kevin Bacon, Matthew Modine, Demi Moore, even Brad Pitt (not the best actor), managed to navigate around supposedly deleterious press labels & work consistently, winning accolades along the way. McCarthy’s doing fine, by the way. Directs television & clearly remains in the public eye 40 years later. Others, like Michael Schoeffling, took the hint & left the business entirely, to his great credit.
@user-bl4fj7qp8r I’ll amend my statement above: Casting and talent agents are idiots. I met Andrew - and Emilio, and Ralph Macchio, and many others - while working at ICM in the late ‘90s. They’d all ride up and down those antiseptic elevators in a stupor. Because the ‘80s had ended and the agents there focused on Johnny Depp, Russell Crowe, Julia, Denzel, Mel, et al. instead. Like a herd of copycatting goats, not a mind amongst them to know how to harness that 30-something proven screen talent.
The members of the Brat Pack are the actors that were in St Elmo's Fire and The Breakfast Club. Molly Ringwald, Ally Sheedy, Judd Nelson, Anthony Michael Hall, Emilio Estevez, Demi Moore, Rob Lowe and Andrew McCarthy. With James Spader and Robert Downey Jr being Brat Pack adjacent. Im not sure about the other 80s actors haha.
McCarthy was definitely a dick for completely leaving Mare WInngham out of the doc. Even when listing the members, he said 'who are we leaving out?' What a dick move.
How do you know she didn't refuse to be interviewed? And to be fair she wasn't really in another movie like St. Elmo's Fire with any of the other brat packers or Brat Pack adjacecent. Jon Cryer was in No Small Affair (1984) with Demi Moore.
i remember seeing an andrew interview a few years back saying he was never close with anyone of them and have never seen them since their last film together with a hint of disdain in his tone
They were preppy movies. Grew up in the 80's and I never watched any of the movies. Tonight was the first time, I saw Pretty in Pink. It just happened to be on t.v. and I noticed Jon Cryer.
Don’t bother it’s a 2 hour Andrew therapy session. Andrew talks the whole time very few short clips of the other actors probably because Andrew is the only one that still holds a grudge?! I mean I think Andrew was mentioned once in that article that started the term “Brat Pack” ! Instead of whining for 2 hours maybe just Accept other actors were more talented than you!? A lot 0f the Brat pack actors had great careers
Hey, I commend Andrew for bringing this doc to light. He had nothing to gain. Why are you a downer? It was so good to reflect back to an era so many loved.
Less than Zero. That was some fine acting.
Tbh, only by RDJ, but he was really just playing his true self.
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It was the 80s, pretty much everyone was like that.
@@TheAgentAssassin No, RDJ was next level. I’m from that time era, and I dabbled in it like most people from that era. How many people broke in a random house, so they could sleep on some strangers bed? RDJ did, and when the parents came home, they found him in their child’s bedroom.
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Are you sure you're from the 80s? What age are you now? Like I said we were all kind of going a bit crazy in the 80s.
@@timbrown8038 still a disturbing movie to this day.
i had the biggest crush on Andrew McCarthy. his eyes and smile were so dreamy!
Same.
Same here I loved him so much wanted to spend time with him no matter how crazy they may sound!!
I watched the documentary last night. It’s quite moving, honestly. The amount of growth they all took from being labeled as “The Brat Pack” is commendable.
I enjoyed his interactions with everyone that he reconnected with. However, when presented the opportunity to meet the reporter that essentially “ruined” the careers of these actors is emotional (to me anyway). To come face to face with anyone that caused any riff to your life has got to be so difficult. I know, personally, that I have struggled with the thought that if I ever got a chance to be face to face with the ones that ruined my life, what would I do. So watching Andrew face his demon, so to speak, gives off a different demeanor. It’s very admirable and he should be very proud of himself!
They've aged well.
I liked Andrew in Mannequin and Weekend At Bernie’s more than his brat pack movies
Same
Mannequin is legendary! Him and Spader were so good.
Although technically a brat pack movie because Rob Lowe was also in it Class was a good movie of his too.
Me too. I tend to think of those before his Brat Pack movies. Joy Luck Club in the early '90s, too. I don't think he gets enough credit for that great small part.
@@pjdexter168 My favorite Spader role ever. His pivot from who he was in Pretty In Pink to that nerdy little manager in Mannequin is so hilarious and well-played.
Demi Moore and Molly Ringwald are both still as gorgeous as ever.
Lol. PLEASE have your eyes checked
They are.. No negativity here it's not allowed!!!❤❤❤...
Agreed!
WTF are you smoking? Crack?
Where is Anthony Michael Hall?
He may not have wanted to do it, maybe? They mentioned that Judd and Molly chose not to participate, so maybe it was the same for AMH.
For some reason Anthony's not participating hasn't generated criticism like what happened with Molly and Judd.
@@williamslattery9222what are people saying?
Anthony Michael Hall said in a fly on the wall interview with David Spade & Dana Harvey that his career is more forward thinking and wants different types of roles and different career so he didn't join because it is like being regressive
Anthony Michael Hall said in a Fly on the Wall interview with David Spade & Dana Harvey that his career is going in a forward thinking direction, and he has different roles and a different career path. So joining the brat pack would be a bit regressive for him at this point in his life. I like his outlook
I had such a huge crush on Andrew McCarthy during those times. I still have one since he’s older, and he’s aged so well. Andrew is still a good looking guy, and just seems so down to earth. I wish James Spader was part of the pack. He was in a lot of those movies too. Andrew directed many scenes with James in his latest show. I always thought James is a talented actor.
James Spader was so raw. So damn sexy. Amazing actor.❤
James spider great actor!
oh yeah and James Spader too, but I never got past the arrogant air James exuded. that's how much of a great actor he was lol
I feel the same about Andrew , then and now ❤❤
Wanted to see more John Cusack, James Spader, and Robert Downey Jr.
John Cusack woke as hell.
They weren't part of the "Brat Pack"
The Brat Pack was specifically the St. Elmo’s fire cast.
It was actually more of a combination of St. Elmo's Fire and the Breakfast Club. Molly and Anthony are added in there, but initially from the article by David Blum, it was Emilio, Judd, and Rob.
Fantastic time in life.
Excellent films.
Excellent clothes.
Excellent music.
Gorgeous looking boys & now men.
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WTF is WRONG with you? Boys and men are NOT gorgeous, but handsome
The documentary shows why no one works with Andrew McCarthy anymore. It is so cringy and self absorbed.
well, he doesn't make movies anymore by choice. He is a writer.
I eagerly await Mare Winningham’s tear-streaked documentary titled, “Why Doesn’t Anybody Ever Mention Me? Am I Not a Brat-Packer?!!”
Jon Cryer was not part of the brat pack
Neither was Andrew McCarthy at first. Most of them were from LA. The New York, magazine front cover even cut out McCarthy and left Rob, Emilio and Judd from a photo from the movie St. Elmo's Fire.
Jon Cryer was never even cool enough to be in the Brat Pack.
BPA: Brat Pack Adjacent 😆...as Lea Thompson said. She deserves a promotion to Brat Pack just for coming up with that phrase.
Neither was Andrew McCarthy or Demi Moore or Rob Lowe. AMH, Judd, Molly, Ally, and Emilio were the Brat Pack.
@@jbjacobs9514 It isn’t an official fraternity. That was always a silly conversation, who’s actually in the brat pack? Sometimes they’d lump Tom Cruise in there. Then there was this ridiculous notion that you had to be involved with John Hughes works to be in the brat pack and so on. But the most common names were mentioned in this video.
Where’s Judd Nelson?
He didn’t want to be a part of it, from what I heard.
Watch the documentary
WTF cares
@nitro_001newman2 - exactly
@@BAKER22-l4uby definition a number of people including you, or why else would you comment?
"Old and happy to be around you realize non of the matters anymore"💯
I will be watching on Thursday
Sunday afternoon
I thought he was going to say “and now we are old and just happy to be alive”
Andrew McCarthy always creeped me out and I didn't think he could act anyway.
"demi was the leader of the pack" hardly. she probably became the most famous but during the 'brat pack' era, she was never the main lead.
What do you base that on? She certainly was off camera.
Jon cryer overshadowed all the others with two and a half men, he should stop crying about the past
WTF is WRONG with you? He's NOT crying about the past..
@@BAKER22-l4u yes i know, it was joke because his last name is cryer
Would have liked to see how Jonathan Silverman, aka Richard is doing. Though it’s a stretch to consider him part of the pack
...He' s Brat Pack adjacent.
Please do a remake of heaven help us ceaser still missing his screws from his chair 😂😂😂
No Spader mentioned throughout the Brats doc.
He was mentioned but not included as a brat.
@@katxl7 Yep. Saw that. Like briefly at an mtv movie premiere screening. JS having been in a 3-4 BP-ish films seems he’d have made a great “BP-adjacent” interview.
I never considered him part of the Brat Pack myself.
Spader separated himself from the brat pack pretty quickly. After Pretty in Pink, he went darker and more with indie movies overall.
He really did. But if they’re going to interview Cryer, Hutton and L Thompson as “BP adjacent”, Spader’s take would’ve been pretty compelling if only because of his unique position at that time. Pretty in Pink to Less than Zero showed linear growth for both he and McCarthy.
bro was best in weekend at bernies........
Love this documentary 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️♥️♥️
Andrew❤
Jon Cryer....His last name is perfectly suited.
Jealous much
He likely was to him
Andrew was on coke all the Time
Is there anything more mind numbing than listening to actors talk about anything?
Yes. Reading annoying comments from people who didn't have to make them. If you don't like them, why TF are you here?
@@UseYourVoices Because stupid people think actors are these really witty interesting people and they aren't. They need to be made aware.
@@AngkarYearZero And you see yourself as a messenger of some kind? A messiah who will shepherd us into the light? Someone who doesn't have the good sense to just go elsewhere when they're somewhere they don't like being? Again, WHY ARE YOU HERE IF ACTORS ARE SO BORING AND UNINTERESTING? Why aren't you going somewhere the people are not boring as you claim them to be? You're not the messenger you think you are, kiddo. You're just a bitter person who sits behind a computer and talks crap about people they don't know and have never met because you have no life and nothing better to do with your time.
If you want to see something mind numbing, look in YOUR MIRROR
Yes, cry babies who comment "if you don't like it why are you here wah wah wah!" People can comment wtf they want it's an open space.
I like Andrew McCarthy. I don’t believe he was a jerk. I believe he was very shy & insecure. But not a jerk.
He didn’t say that
With a last name like Cryer what would one expect? Just joking, Ducky stole the show!
She made the wrong choice. She should have picked Ducky!
Team Blaine all day. They had a normal snag because of normal human feelings of Blaine working up the courage to challenge his peers. Ducky needed to love himself first. For her to be almost borderline disinterested in his presence the entire movie to sudden romantic chemistry? Nah, I much prefer Kristy Swanson showing up and displaying real interest in him from the start, which is what he deserved.
I had a crush on James spader in pretty & pink he played a tool in the movie but real life what a hunk
Same.
He was the reason I watched The New Kids, Less than Zero, and Tuff Turf!
Fun facts : james spader showed up at the audition with a. Rude behavoiur and a cigarette the director pick him after that.
Why bring this up now. It was 40 years ago.
Andrew let that ruin his career. You can still see he doesn’t understand, that’s why he’s looking for emotional validation but it’s not there. Everyone had their hit or hits. I can only think of WAB (not including bratpack films) because everything else was so odd. I like him as an actor though you can see everyone moved on and it honestly feels like he didn’t want to.
Jon’s kind of a prick now
Where is AMH?
HE is the John Hughes prince.
He gave an interview about now being underage at the time meant he couldn’t club so he wasn’t TBP.
Jon Cryer a whining beta male 😂
Love all the Brat Pack movies!!! Pretty in Pink was my favorite!!!! They all look great!!! The 80's the best time in my life. The movies the great music the clothes The cars, everything about it was the best of the best!!!!! 🩷🩷🩷🩷!!!!! Loved the Hulu Special, with Andrew !!!!! Great Job!!! Great nostalgia... Thank You!!!! 🎉🎉🎉..
Andrew McCarthy ❤
John Cryer never has anything nice to say about anybody..except himself!
Jon
Demi has always been so smart. Very insightful.
Andrew McCarthy looks really old.
I hated Blaine by the end of Pretty in Pink. I wanted her to end up with Duckie.
lol cryer ended up making more money than all of them!
JON CRYER wants to be cool so bad. Only able to ride the coattails of the cool people though.
Theres the main 8 core brat pack members and the rest of them are like couisns too the real brat pack.
A lot of too much attention on these guys. Now why?
Love the 80's! Andrew is HOT!
Since when was Jon Cryer a brat pack kid?
Love his acting…also did not know he was in the pack. Who else did I miss 😂
Since 1984.
He wasn't but Pretty in Pink is considered a brat pack movie.
I don't associate Demi Moore as a Brat Pack either.
He's brat pack affiliated.
i love how the men are whiny and the women are kind
Did Jon Cryer actually like or was liked by anyone he worked with? All I hear from him is constant bitching of people he worked with
When will this be shown in the UK?
Andrew McCarthy didn’t want anything to do with being part of the Brat Pack. So much so, that he revisits the painful situation 40 years later. He was always a weasel…
Was he a weasel? Sounds like you have some stories to tell, do tell
McCarthy’s entire premise behind his book & documentary hinges on casting & talent agents not knowing what they were doing from 1985 onward.
Which is false.
The town simply didn’t see him - and some of the others - as the best choice for various features.
With some of the others, it was an issue of their attitudes toward peers & representatives. Michael Hall infamously alienated Stanley Kubrick, ffs...
The cream rises, always. Robert Downey, Jr., Sean Penn, James Spader, Kevin Bacon, Matthew Modine, Demi Moore, even Brad Pitt (not the best actor), managed to navigate around supposedly deleterious press labels & work consistently, winning accolades along the way.
McCarthy’s doing fine, by the way. Directs television & clearly remains in the public eye 40 years later. Others, like Michael Schoeffling, took the hint & left the business entirely, to his great credit.
@user-bl4fj7qp8r
I’ll amend my statement above: Casting and talent agents are idiots.
I met Andrew - and Emilio, and Ralph Macchio, and many others - while working at ICM in the late ‘90s. They’d all ride up and down those antiseptic elevators in a stupor.
Because the ‘80s had ended and the agents there focused on Johnny Depp, Russell Crowe, Julia, Denzel, Mel, et al. instead. Like a herd of copycatting goats, not a mind amongst them to know how to harness that 30-something proven screen talent.
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I'm so old that I remember when Demi Moore's first name was pronounced normally (Dem-me). Now it sounds more fancy, like she's from France. Da-me
I remember that too ..but demi is actually a french word..it means half 😂
@@nottellinnoone2074 - lol!
Full MK Ulrra type energy tho. Could you be more apart of the programming of the American youth? Whatever!
Jon Cryer is not in the Brat Pack
The members of the Brat Pack are the actors that were in St Elmo's Fire and The Breakfast Club. Molly Ringwald, Ally Sheedy, Judd Nelson, Anthony Michael Hall, Emilio Estevez, Demi Moore, Rob Lowe and Andrew McCarthy. With James Spader and Robert Downey Jr being Brat Pack adjacent. Im not sure about the other 80s actors haha.
Love that movie
McCarthy was definitely a dick for completely leaving Mare WInngham out of the doc. Even when listing the members, he said 'who are we leaving out?' What a dick move.
How do you know she didn't refuse to be interviewed? And to be fair she wasn't really in another movie like St. Elmo's Fire with any of the other brat packers or Brat Pack adjacecent. Jon Cryer was in No Small Affair (1984) with Demi Moore.
Hey, the guy did a great job trying his best to bring everyone together. Probably not an easy task if they didn’t want to partake.
I don't even know who that is🤣
i remember seeing an andrew interview a few years back saying he was never close with anyone of them and have never seen them since their last film together with a hint of disdain in his tone
Who?
Every guy in st elmos was a wimp
Jon cryer has an opinion about everyone. Cryer is the one with the problem.
I grew up in the eighties and I’ve never seen any of those movies? If it wasn’t in the horror or action genre, I wasn’t interested lol.
They were preppy movies. Grew up in the 80's and I never watched any of the movies. Tonight was the first time, I saw Pretty in Pink. It just happened to be on t.v. and I noticed Jon Cryer.
guess they're broke!.
Don’t bother it’s a 2 hour Andrew therapy session. Andrew talks the whole time very few short clips of the other actors probably because Andrew is the only one that still holds a grudge?! I mean I think Andrew was mentioned once in that article that started the term “Brat Pack” ! Instead of whining for 2 hours maybe just Accept other actors were more talented than you!? A lot 0f the Brat pack actors had great careers
Exactly.
Hey, I commend Andrew for bringing this doc to light. He had nothing to gain. Why are you a downer? It was so good to reflect back to an era so many loved.
It's rich people problems and whiney but I think it has moments and still worth a watch.
Yep
@@lindachamp5884he had nothing to gain, except money and renewed notoriety.
2 washed up actors from movies 30+ years ago and one guy is throwing the other under the bus? LOL
You're driving the bus.
I don't think you really know the meaning of washed up.
And jon cryer is kind of annoying. Checks out.
No one liked John Cryer. He was so annoying
His mom liked him.
Andrew McCarthy seems annoying. I can see why Anthony Michael Hall and some of the other "brats" wouldn't want any part of this.
Andrew McCarthy usually wasn’t an asset to most of the movies he was in.
McCarthy was definitely a dick. The cream rises, always. Robert Downey, Jr., Sean Penn, James Spader, Kevin Bacon, Matthew Modine, Demi Moore.
Jon wished he was in the brat pack alas he was just a Cryer.
John Cryer as a Skin head & beard looks like one of extras in Cruising