Instrument training - The Flying Reporter
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- I have to revalidate my restricted instrument rating every 25 months with a flight test. As I approached the deadline for my test, I took a flight with an instructor to brush up on some rusty skills.
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Had him on my introductory lesson. Great instructor. very thorough. He made me do a walkaround, checklists, straight and level, gentle and steep turns, instrument review, and quite a few other more interesting things (also including recoveries, stall and simulation engine fail but only after he queried if I was interested in taking it further). it was an incredibly intense first hour.
Jon, I felt that my brain was in overload and I was just watching, not flying. Well Done.
Thanks Paul.
what a fantastic, inspiring instructor.
I like this instructor, he's a realist. Arithmetic is important but having a 'sixth sense' understanding of the approach is also important. This is something that you don't get in a simulator or that can be taught in a classroom. Unless you're a complete nerd, working out headings correct to the degree is going to take your head out of controlling the aircraft.
These videos are so good to brush up my english radio, to get my ear tuned to it again, especially in IFR... used to hold the IMC rating... Thanks for these !
I loved this. Back in 1998, when I was training for my PPL in Casper, Wyoming, we did 1 hour "under the hood" and it was a superb challenge. After a 20 year hiatus, I restarted flying lessons and while I'm no where near an IMC, I hope to complete my PPL, Night, IMC and MEP before mid-next year. This video was superb to see what challenges I'd face.
just starting my IR/R. So this is good to watch. Jan seems great!! Nice laid back attitude, but he is all over it!!
We always hear our instructors saying "aviate, navigate, communicate" but it's great to see it in practice all the time, not just in a "problem situation". I still almost immediately respond to ATC and/or contact them when instructed - it's a hard habit to break. Here on final where you got nicely established before contacting the tower "because they know you're coming", that is a great tip that can be used in way more scenarios. Awesome chilled instructor - just what you need under that kind of workload.
I'm glad you mentioned that, because that was one of my big take-away's from the sortie.
WOW! Some hard work covered there Jon. Well done! What a cool instructor Jan is, I could listen to him all day!
I was pretty inept though Kevin!!
Indeed, what a great instructor! Nice flying too!
I flew with Jan years ago when I started my PPL, loved flying with him :)
Wow, I was overloaded just watching! What a great instructor, thanks for uploading and well done Sir.
Jan - what a great instructor he is!
Just so chilled!
Well done on passing your recert.
Thanks Darren.
i first watched this video when i only had a PPL, now i have fATPL and having done many instrument approaches at Southend under the hood its funny to see where you are against a ground reference.
Thanks for sharing your flights Jon. It's tough when you are under pressure and might make a mistake, but we all do and seeing what is involed in IR training in the UK is really useful.
Well done John, you handled that really well. And Jan, wow what a calm relaxing instructor, just what everyone needs in that situation 👏
Ah it was you flying over my house!! You have seriously re started my flying interest again. I gained my PPL back in the eighties actually at Southend airport but owing to an extension to the family (twins) I had to let it go due to cost. I always wanted to gain some extra qualifications to the licence but that was not to be. Hey ho family first of course. On your video I think I heard ATC call G-AVNO which I took to France one day back in 1984, and she's still flying! Think I will give Seawing flying club a call now and see if I can remember how to fly!!! When you are doing certain things such as the approach in this film would it be possible to have a close up shot of the relevant instruments inset in the main screen? Great films please keep em coming.
Amazing instructor. Reminds of my instructor Pete Shorter at Southend Flying Club.
What a great instructor Jan is. Cool calm reassuring. Well done Jon.
He's fun to fly with!
Great video Jon ! Respect for the way you handled this flight, with meaningful guodance and instructions. Very fond off your of atc skills. Many pilots i hear through the Sony Air-7 receiver, can’t pass a simple message or request ! Thank you for posting, Jan from EBAW !
Thanks Jan.
Outstanding John well done .
Jan - amazingly cool guy
Well flown Jon and excellent instruction.
Thanks Mark.
It's about 7 years since I flew IMC on my last renewal, feel I've probably forgotten most of the procedures now. Jan seems excellent, would be great to do some refresher training with him!
He trains out of Cubair at Redhill.
Great vid Jon and good work! Excellent instructor!!
He's fun to fly with Rob.
VERY GOOD. Back in the 70s without kit like sky demon it was a bit trickier. I did not finish my IMC because I did not fly enough, I though it was a licence to GET ME INTO TROUBLE.
This is the dilemma I’m grappling with now. I want to do the IMC but feel I may take more risks with the weather if I have it
Fantastic video and what an instructor Jan is! Southend on 130.780 is my regular LARS for training flights from Andrewsfield. Great video as always.
Thanks Samuel.
Fantastic video. What a great instructor. It’s so easy to get frazzled and loose what you’re doing, all that prep paid off big time. Well done.
I need to do some instrument flying, X-Plane keeps me current at the moment 🤔☺️
Thanks Richard. It was a well overdue brush up.
I recall (what was then) my imc training. Quite overwhelming at times isn't it! Aviate, navigate, communicate AND listen and learn. Jeepers.
Jeepers indeed Paul.
Have to see this video a few more times , learning VFR for online flying , thank you , great video and great instructor !
Thanks Bert.
Purely constructive criticism but it appears in the video that when you do your controls full and free checks your head is in the cockpit. You should check that the movement is also correct sense and look outside for the aileron and elevator deflection to make sure they are moving and in the correct sense.
Thanks for the feedback.
Nice one Jon, got my brain working too 👍🏻
Excellent, lee!
Another great VLOG mate well done & gongrats on the pass.
Thanks!
I would like to see fog instrument training . with CFI
I would love to do my PPLl but it looks so difficult
Very interesting and helpful insight to "do look outside" during IFR training, and that training should not be a student focusing solely on the instruments. During visual conditions traffic must be looked for, weather, major landmarks. It's mostly about procedures. Cheating really isn't very realistic in training, and if a student is apt to cheat, it's only hurting the student.
Hi Jon. I'm a bit late to this party so apologies if this answer to an old question has been given before.
You asked about decent planning; i.e. how many miles to allow to lose altitude during descent towards your destination. I believe you use 3 x height to lose over 1000.
Personally, I prefer to use time as the indicator. I plan for 500fpm rate of descent and use as many minutes as needed to get the height off. My reason for this is that the wind has a large affect on light aircraft groundspeeds. With say, 90kts IAS and a 30 knot headwind you'll be doing 1 mile per minute. With that same 30 knots as a tailwind you're doing 2 miles per minute and could end up too high if using a distance based calculation.
Cheers.
Nice ILS btw!
Thanks. I usually combine my 3xheight calc with a second step. Groundspeed x 10 divided by two for the rate I need to descend at about 3 degrees.
I recommend the old gCAP (now Air Box) plates for instrument approaches. They only show Cat A aircraft information so are much easier to read compared to the AIP versions.
I did peruse the gCAP plates before. I should probably take another look. In all fairness, I fly IFR so infrequently, and expensive subscription just isn't worth it.
The Flying Reporter Very true, it’s yet another annual subscription to add to Skydemon, Pooleys, club membership etc etc
Very fetching hood. Reminds me of what dogs have after surgery (though hopefully IFR training is far less traumatic).
A really great video. Thoroughly enjoyed it thanks.
Thanks Steve.
excellent videos every time Sir !
Very interesting.
Good altitude holding on the way over - flying at 2,400 here is playing Russian roulette with Class A airspace above (don’t ask how I know) - I’d advise being a bit lower.
Great ILS
Well done.
I thought 24 was the MSA due to Wrotham mast, but looking at Biggin Hills charts it’s 23, so shall opt for that in future. The mast is 2305 AMSL
Does this airfield have a control tower? Or is there a more centralized system that controls all airfields?
Nice video Jon. I find using the SkyDemon approach plate overlay reduces the workload significantly. I still use the Garmin 430 for my approaches but love the large graphic overlay skydemon offers.
Agree Simon, I can’t use it for the test though, I think.
The Flying Reporter I used mine for my IR(R) revalidation last Wednesday. However I did only use it as back up reference. It took the workload off.
I think SkyDemon is a good app, BUT it is uncertified and running on an uncertified platform - too many pilots refer to it FIRST even when they have a certified panel which should be the FIRST reference. Using SD when in VFR fine but in IFR SD is a distraction that can leave you behind the situation JMO.
Hope you've got plenty of money John because you're gonna really need it
eh?
I love your channel Jon, lots of great content! I was wondering if there was any specific reason why you haven't gone commercial as you obviously have a serious passion for flying!
Jon u were very well organised and I didn’t see much rust. You had a lot to do (and the dreaded NDB) and no autopilot for assistance. Quick question-are u allowed to use/do u have access to a flight “sim”such as Redbird fmx to log approaches towards maintaining proficiency? Cheaper too-as u said “time is money.” Course they have their limitations and far from a real level D sim. Cheers. Douglas expat Commercial/IFR flying in USA. PS congrats on passing. PPS Jan is a super CFI
To answer your question, I’m not sure. I think you can do sim time, but not sure what type.
Hi. I have followed this with interest. Good job. One question though. You and Jan keep mentioning 'Go Pop'. Entering via go pop? What is this place? What are you referring to? Tnx
Hi. It's an RNAV waypoint.
My god you had your work cut out there Jon but well done I used to quite like being under the hood even though my instructor said I looked a complete pratt with it on LOL!!
Just got to style it out.
Love that!
Glad you liked it!
Do you show yourself going over Stanford-le-Hope? I noticed the track was slightly north, so not sure if I remember you flying over.
Passed just to the north after being given the second heading from Southend.
Great job, and thank you for sharing! A question if you have a minute. Can you explain the differences between IR and Restricted IR? I heard you mention that there are training differences, but I'm curious whether the restricted gives a reduction in privileges. (FAA instrument rated pilot here.)
Hi. I have just updated my FAQs, since this question comes up now and then. www.jonhunt.net/faq/
Thank you sir!
Get that full IR Jon..!! 😜
I wish.
Well the offer is still there to take you on an airways flight in a TB20. Perhaps summer 2020...if you get any free time.
Hi The Flying Reporter I was wondering if you could offer me any advice regarding my flying training. I have currently got about 5 hours under my belt but I'm really struggling getting out due to weather being below VFR conditions. This has made my progress extremely slow going with only one lesson in two weeks which I feel is not enough consistency. I was therefore wondering if you or any other student pilot in the comment section is encountering the same problem and if there are any tips on better times to fly.
ireallylikeplayinggames can’t fight the weather I’m afraid. The winter season doesn’t offer much weather wise. Just stick with it and hope you get some good days. When summer comes around you’ll find yourself getting through it a lot quicker.
There's nothing that can be done about the weather really, unless you want to go and get your license somewhere else in Europe or the US. It can be done. If you fly from a grass-only strip, you could look at schools at aerodromes with a hard runway.
This weekend weather seems promising. Where do you fly from? Check out Damyn’s Hall Aerodrome (EGML), grass runway but because of the slope, drains very well. Flyable most days. The Tiger Club is the DTO based there. Excellent training provided
One lesson every two weeks is certainly less than ideal, but you will still be learning even if you can only fly every fortnight. Do you have any options to spend consecutive days at the airfield, or to spend the whole day there? When I learned to fly, I did so on an intensive course where we were flying 50 minute minute flights two or three times a day. This was idea for the period immediately before going solo. You are probably five hours away from going solo so with just three days of consecutive good weather you might get your solo in.
I like Jan
He's a good instructor!
Fair play Jon, I got the 29th like
Thanks!
@@TheFlyingReporter thank you, there's no need to watch the video I know that it's getting a like every time. Well done Sir on another great vid