And there ain't no trees out there on the prairies. Yep, when I see cows, I see steak and fertilizer (and a host of other products). Cheers to you for keeping it going. Grasslands evolved to be grazed, and if they're not, they degrade into desert. U of Arizona did an interesting study on desert tortoises. The common wisdom is that cows were killing them and needed to be removed. That was done, and a lot of tortoises starved to death. Why? Because they don't eat plants, they eat dung. Cows replaced bison in the ecosystem, pretty much one for one. (Actually, there were probably more bison.) They are, in fact, necessary for the health of the system.
@@Reziac and peterdreyer5954 Thanks for your insights! I have heard our food is deficient in magnesium because these corporations use artificial fertilizer which binds to magnesium and prevents it uptake into the plant. If Big Food started farming regeneratively, replenishing the soil with manure we wouldn't have such a metabolic health epidemic.
How do you know that"Green Peace is neither green, nor peaceful"? - Yo have exactly how much direct immediate personsl percipience(as direct immediate and personal as pain) of greenpeace, when an where? none at all, ever? No surprises there.
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
@@vhawk1951kl Why are you telling me all of this? Did my post sound like I support the idiocy of a climate crisis? Green peace isn't peaceful because they engage in violence and disruption. They aren't green either as they use fossil fuels literally by the boat load.
With a straight face this guy tries to convince you that plastic in the ocean is "the opposite of toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife. "We wrap our food in it" ... - What percentage of plastic is rated "food safe" ? Shampoo bottle ? Packaging plastic ? Styrofoam ? Industrial puprpose plasctic ? FIsh nets are food save ? PVC, nylon, acrylic - All these plastics degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction ... they turn into micro plastics, they release contaminants, toxic molecules and all of it enter the food chain. But with a straight face ... What a sad joke.
You need to start thinking. I made it easy for you : # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, behaving as hormone disruptors, entering the food chain. # Brilliant manipulation indeed. And so many buy it !
Respect to you, Patrick. You demonstrated your environmental concerns courageously in the early days of Greenpeace. That adds to your credibility as a courageous critic of current environmental concerns. I hope that many people will follow the plain and simple evidence in your excellent presentation and put some common sense back into environmental management. The global warming/CO2 gravy train, not just for scientists but for publishers, journalists, businesses, and politicians, has been rumbling on with all criticism marginalized for too long. Real science is objective and debatable, not a moral commandment promulgated by folk who earn richly by scaring us.
You gobble up his plastic story ? You should do some research about what kind of plastic ends up in the ocean and what happens to it when exposed to UVs, sea salt and friction. Weedkiller incident ? "Glyphosate is so safe I could drink a qaurt of it". He blatantly lies or misinform with his temperature graphs. That guy has lost complete credibility. He is now a PR guy for the worst industries.
@@philippesarrazin2752 Yes, I "gobbled up" Moore's presentation. Also, last night, 'Have you ever seen a lithium mine?" by Scott Tinker because of his refreshingly balanced view of energy production globally and his excellent presentation too. Concerning plastics, my view is that they do not belong in the sea whether anyone thinks it's a global problem or not; at best it's just bad housekeeping. Leatherback turtles, an endangered species, eat plastic bags in mistake for their usual prey, jelly fish. And jelly fish definitely are a global problem, in my opinion, because they are indiscriminate predators that fill the gap made by globally fishing down predatory fish, like tuna and cod, and, since jellyfish eat fish larvae as well as adults, they prevent or slow the re-emergence of the fish stocks cut back by fishing. Look up 'Trophic cascades' if you are interested, for example Georgi Daskalov's study of the degradation of the Black Sea to jelly fish domination in the Proc. Nat. Acad of Sciences v104, pp 10518 - 10523. The same could be happening in our oceans. If you have evidence about plastics in the sea, please tell us. Discussions on RUclips seem to be the best way to inform ourselves these days. The IPCC (on climate) and the INC (on plastics in the oceans) are inter-governmental committees that appear to be more focussed on money (the Climate Finance Fund, and the Plastics industry, respectively) than on their respective subject areas.
It is not just visible plastic. "we wrap our food in it ..." Sure ! ALl kinf of plastic ends up in the ocean. Not just the food grade ones. ANd they will all degrade. Visible plastic may be the least harmful ones ! They will all degrade into tiny particles and toxic additives entering the food chain. Chemical Exposure Toxic Substance Accumulation: Leaching of Additives: Plastics often contain additives like bisphenol A (BPA), phthalates, and flame retardants, which can leach into the tissues of animals upon ingestion, disrupting endocrine functions. Adsorption of Pollutants: Plastics can absorb harmful pollutants from seawater, including heavy metals and persistent organic pollutants (POPs) like PCBs and DDT. When ingested, these toxins can accumulate in the animal's body. Biological Effects: Hormonal Disruptions: Chemicals from plastics can interfere with hormone regulation, affecting growth, metabolism, and reproduction. Immune System Suppression: Exposure to toxic substances can weaken the immune response, making animals more susceptible to diseases and infections. Reproductive Issues: Toxins can lead to reduced fertility, developmental abnormalities in offspring, and altered sex ratios in populations. Microplastics and Nanoplastics Cellular and Tissue Damage: Inflammation and Stress: Microplastics (less than 5 mm) and nanoplastics (less than 100 nm) can cause inflammation and oxidative stress at the cellular level when ingested or inhaled. Tissue Accumulation: These tiny particles can accumulate in organs such as the liver, kidneys, and even cross into the bloodstream, potentially causing long-term health effects. Disruption of Feeding Mechanisms: Filter Feeders Affected: Organisms like mussels, oysters, and zooplankton can ingest microplastics, which may clog feeding apparatuses or reduce feeding efficiency, impacting growth and reproduction.
"we wrap our food in it ..." Sure ! All kind of plastic ends up in the ocean. Not just the food grade ones. Add they will all degrade. Visible plastic may be the least harmful ones ! They will all degrade into tiny particles and toxic additives entering the food chain. #Chemical Exposure -Toxic Substance Accumulation: +Leaching of Additives: Plastics often contain additives like bisphenol A (BPA), phthalates, and flame retardants, -which can leach into the tissues of animals upon ingestion, disrupting endocrine functions. +Adsorption of Pollutants: Plastics can absorb harmful pollutants from seawater, including heavy metals and persistent organic pollutants (POPs) like PCBs and DDT. When ingested, these toxins can accumulate in the animal's body. #Biological Effects: -Hormonal Disruptions: Chemicals from plastics can interfere with hormone regulation, affecting growth, metabolism, and reproduction. -Immune System Suppression: Exposure to toxic substances can weaken the immune response, making animals more susceptible to diseases and infections. -Reproductive Issues: Toxins can lead to reduced fertility, developmental abnormalities in offspring, and altered sex ratios in populations. #Microplastics and Nanoplastics Cellular and Tissue Damage: Inflammation and Stress: Microplastics (less than 5 mm) and nanoplastics (less than 100 nm) can cause inflammation and oxidative stress at the cellular level when ingested or inhaled. Tissue Accumulation: These tiny particles can accumulate in organs such as the liver, kidneys, and even cross into the bloodstream, potentially causing long-term health effects. Disruption of Feeding Mechanisms: Filter Feeders Affected: Organisms like mussels, oysters, and zooplankton can ingest microplastics, which may clog feeding apparatuses or reduce feeding efficiency, impacting growth and reproduction.
@@1972martind28 Yup. The Left solve every single problem with a tax, and environmentalists solve every single problem with this phrase - "Stop doing that, you can't do that anymore". Both represent some of the most myopic people on Earth.
academic depth or twisted facts ? 🤔 These is no academic depth here but only twisted science popularization. I have nothing against honest science popularization, it can make wonders to educate. But here ... 😂
Actually, you can put coal in a pipe. They did it for years to supply the now demolished Mojave Generating station. The coal was crushed and mixed with water to make a slurry and it was pumped hundreds of miles and dewatered with centrifuges before it was burned.
@@vhawk1951kl I'm guessing you don't work in power generation. So you wouldn't know what a deaerator is either (it removes air & other gases from condensate water before it is sent into the boiler feedwater system). Let me assure you, dewatering is a thing.
Observation bias is alive and well, everywhere. My 27 year old son introduced me to how it was affecting my thinking. The younger generation may well be our saviours! The non kool aid drinking ones at least.
You just show that you are gullible . Please, demonstrate I'm wrong : # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain. # glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
Moore is indeed a liar. For years he has been saying there is no relation between co2 and temperature over the last 500 million years. But there is a relation between co2 and temperature if 2 other parameters are taken into account : the shape and distribution of the continents ( possibility to form ice caps at the poles) and the power of the sun which increases by 1% per 100 million years. I’m sure he knows that, but he is paid to say there is no correlation ! If the earth was not an ice ball 500 million years ago or more despite a much colder sun, this is because there was 10 or 20 times more co2. The couple of times when earth almost turned entirely into an ice ball it was because co2 dropped too low and could not balance a weak sun.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 He didn't sell out and he isn't lying. He didn't just "work for" Greenpeace, you knucklehead, he was a founding member and an icon of true environmental activism. Not the same as "working for" and not the same as Greta T. or voidisyinyang political activism and virtue signaling related to a fantasy climate crisis story. Get a grip.
The "seal of approval" is on pretty firm footing. In 2021, Cornell University surveyed the over 88000 climate studies published from 2012-2020 and tallied a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's climate change. Even Exxon's own scientists in leaked memos have acknowledged that combusted fossil fuels are warming the planet to a damaging degree.
I've learned so much watching this video. So nice to hear facts and learning about the total fallacies of the climate grifters! Thanks Dr Moore, and keep teaching us.
I made it easy for you : # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain. # glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
What about the obsession regarding electric cars and the significant hazards of the lithium batteries used as their source of power? Lithium fires are escalating and emit highly toxic smoke, gasses, fumes, and particulates.
ICE cars burst into flames far more often than EVs do. Data from the National Transportation Safety Board shows that EVs are involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles are involved in fires for every 100,000 sold. Other studies from Europe agree with the NTSB's findings.
When you calculated the environmental damages EV batteries cause, did you compare them to the damage caused by drilling, mining, fracking, methane burn-offs, oil spills, fires, explosions, the transporting of oil over thousands of miles of pipeline and via tens of thousands of tanker trucks and trains, the sprawling refineries and the dangerous benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, and xylene they spew; the oil pits that kill more birds than wind turbines, the hydrogen sulfide, benzene, naphthalene and C02 produced when oil is burned, the carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, particulate matter, unburned hydrocarbons and C02 when gasoline is burned? Did you calculate the cost of accelerating sea level rise, from the melting of ice sheets, caused by the C02-driven warming? How about the increase in category 4 and 5 hurricanes? The extreme precipitation events? The increase in droughts and wildfires?
for where did they base that. I have seen other sources that don’t agree so as I first said it depends on the Narrative they wish to push. Or which part of that did you not understand son @@swiftlytiltingplanet8481
Sea level has risen four inches since 1993, and its rate of rise has doubled, according to NASA. As a result, the Maldives have lost 95% of their fresh drinking water resources, due specifically to salt water overwash and infiltration. But no climate scientist ever said those islands would be underwater now. Some scientists predicted some of the islands would be submerged by 2100. The Maldives, in fact, spend half their national budget on climate change and holding back the rising tide. Most notable is their dredging of the sea floor to bring sediment to the beaches to build them up higher. Over fifty of the islands have reclaimed land from the ocean this way. Reclaiming land and delaying inundation for some future year does not mean sea level rise is nonexistent. Cities, towns and states all over the world are currently emptying their coffers to figure out ways to stop the tide from rising. New York and Louisiana, for example, already have a combined $100 billion in new flood mitigation projects in the works. Miami Beach has raised 105 miles of roads by two feet. In January, Maine suffered a record high tide that caused $100 million in damages. Odisha state in India reports losing no less than 16 coastal villages to the sea. This isn't in someone's imagination. It's really happening and will only get worse going forward.
"Every plant needs CO2." And? What climate scientist anywhere on the planet is calling for an end to CO2? NONE. NADA. ZILCH. Everyone all the way down to elementary school knows CO2 is good for plants, which is why there are no plans to eliminate it. We're unable to do that anyway. It's important to remember that CO2 is only good for plants up to a point. We've passed that point, with plants only absorbing a fraction of our emissions now and leaving the rest to accumulate in the atmosphere. . The dose is the poison. While CO2 helps plants grow more lush, the warming that accompanies rising CO2 cancels out those benefits by increasing crop-decimating heatwaves, droughts, extreme precipitation events and wildfires. Rising CO2 also increases lushness by increasing sugar content and, in crops that we eat, diminishing zinc, iron and protein content, making them far less nutritious. It's not nearly as simple as fossil fuel industry propaganda would have us believe.
Check all of the places on the planets oceans that are coral, coral reefs at this moment are dead everywhere on the planet and half a billion humans have no way to live off them. These folx will move north! Nothing can stop the stampede off humans coming from south of equator in order to live and get away from burning. Do not be delusional. This is not ideological it is real! And t is happening at the moment, we need to stop capitalism.
@@Dan-mm1yl That's a pretty lame answer, Dan. Your house is falling apart but why make repairs because, you know, "nothing stays the same?" Here is my response to that: WE are causing the deleterious changes with our emissions. Those changes will cost the world trillions annually in damages going forward. We are in complete control of our emissions and therefore the damages that will accrue. All studies to date establish clearly that reducing our emissions and switching energy sources will be far cheaper than continously repairing climate change damage every year. Why the defeatist attitude?
1966: oil gone in 10yrs 1967: dire famine forecast by 1975 1968: overpopulation will spread worldwide 1969: everyone will disappear in a cloud of blue steam by 1989 1970: the world will use up all its natural resources by 2000, urban citizens will require gas masks by 1985, nitrogen build-up will make all land unusable, decaying pollution will kill all the fish, killer bees, ice age by 2000 and America will be subject to water rationing by 1974 and food rationing by 1980 1971: new ice age coming by 2020 or 2030 1972: new ice age by 2070 and oil depleted in 20yrs 1974: space satellites show new ice age coming fast, ozone depletion and "Great peril to life" 1976: scientific consensus planet cooling and famines imminent 1977: department of energy says oil will peak in the 90s 1978: no end in sight to 30yr cooling trend 1980: acid rain kills life in lakes and peak oil in 2000 1988: regional droughts in the 90s, temperatures in DC will hit record highs and Maldives will be underwater by 2018 1989: rising sea levels will obliterate nations if nothing is done by 2000 and New York City's West Side Highway will be underwater by 2019 1996: peak oil in 2020 2000: children won't know what snow is 2002: famine in 10yrs if we don't give up eating meat, fish and dairy and peak oil in 2010 2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024 2005: Manhattan will be underwater by 2015 2006: super hurricanes 2008: the Arctic will be ice free by 2018 and Climate Genius Al Gore predicts an ice free Arctic by 2013 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles says we have 96 months to save the world, UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown says we have 50 days to "save the planet from catastrophe" and Climate Genius Al Gore moves his 2013 prediction of an ice free Arctic to 2014 2013: the Arctic will be ice free by 2015 2014: only 500 days before "Climate chaos" 2018 A top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels by 2023...Greta Doomberg. 2019: Hey Greta, we need you to convince them it's really going to happen this time 2020 Greta Thunderberg global warming will cause temperatues to rise to 80 degrees celsius and drown 80% of the population. 2024 Greta still alive. 2024 WEF
@@chesterfinecat7588feel free to personally unburden the earth with your existence. You people are immune to facts and reason that disagree with your righteous belief taken on faith not science.
Great that he helped stop the slaughter of baby seals. I wonder if he can raise the issue of the slaughter of baby humans? Maybe we'd show the same revulsion if we saw the reality of that little issue..
Two million children die each year in poverty and you are fussing about abortion..? All you seem to wish to achieve for religious dogmatic reasons is to bring about more children to suffer into death so that you can feel good about yourself and your deluded convictions. Do something about poverty first; be useful and virtuous for a change.
Phenomenal talk from Dr Patrick Moore as usual, my dearest wish would be for it to be shown in every classroom in the world with resource material to back it up ,but not just for the students but more importantly the ( was going to use a bad word ) teacher's.
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
@@vhawk1951kl Globally Resolved Surface Temperatures Since The Last Glacial Maximum" Matthew B. Osman, Jessica E. Tierney, Jiang Zhu, Robert Tardif, Gregory J. Hakim, Jonathan King & Christopher J. Poulsen published November 10, 2021 Nature volume 599, pages 239-244 (2021) ----------- Analysis of global mean surface temperature (GMST) the last 24,000 years by combining several hundred previous published paleo analysis from all over Earth, took 7 scientists 7 years to do the work of combining hundreds of previous published paleo analysis and filling in the areas of Earth between the analyses using advanced statistical methods, and calculating the uncertainty in those statistical methods for the infill. "Climate changes across the last 24,000 years provide key insights into Earth system responses to external forcing. Climate model simulations and proxy data have independently allowed for study of this crucial interval; however, they have at times yielded disparate conclusions. Here, we leverage both types of information using paleoclimate data assimilation to produce the first observationally constrained, full-field reanalysis of surface temperature change spanning the Last Glacial Maximum to present. We demonstrate that temperature variability across the last 24 kyr was linked to two modes: radiative forcing from ice sheets and greenhouse gases; and a superposition of changes in thermohaline circulation and seasonal insolation. In contrast with previous proxy-based reconstructions our reanalysis results show that global mean temperatures warmed between the early and middle Holocene and were stable thereafter. When compared with recent temperature changes, our reanalysis indicates that both the rate and magnitude of modern observed warming are unprecedented relative to the changes of the last 24 kyr".
@@vhawk1951kl here ,here. The problem with climate models is that they are the quintessential run the flag up the flagpole example of garbage in garbage out, simply because no one, no individual, no collection of scientists no government or world body completely understand the climate, so climate models are always full of guessing. The religious aspect of climate zealots is also a big BIG problem as one of the major defining aspects of religion is there is no need for evidence just faith.
I agree that the use of chlorine has been a godsend in providing safe drinking water eradicating countless diseases and improving health in general but I don't think pharmaceutical drugs and their widespread overuse and contribution to our cronic disease epidemic is endearing to the benefits of chlorine.
Did you fact-check everything Moore presented? You didn't, right? Does it stir the sligtest suspicion that Moore once headed the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by fossil fuel industry investors to promote the use of more gas and oil? Raise even a teensy weensy red flag?
He’s not twisting the facts he’s telling like it is I know because I did this research myself and his research is correct. 1957 who’s fanatics were on TV showing the Black diesel smoke from the tractor trailers? Exhaust of the cars and they said we will have a Ice Age in 10 years. If we don’t stop using diesel fuel and gasoline you can do the math that was a little while ago. Be safe.
@@kennethcole1551 See FACT-CHECKING PATRICK MOORE, CLIMATE SCEPTIC. Not a single scientific institution anywhere on earth agrees with him that more CO2 would be good for us. NONE. NADA. ZILCH. Moore isnt a climate scientist, he's a greenwashing PR shill for polluting companies. Moore is famous for his assertion that "over the Earth's history there's no consistent correlation between CO2 and temperature." He then shows a graph which looks pretty damned convincing. The crime here is that no lay person questions his graph's validity and provenance. Or anything else he presents as Gospel. They should. He got the graph from coal mining engineer Monte Hieb, who isn't a climate scientist but a climate denier who fancied himself clever enough to plot out CO2 and temperature over millions of years. The graph he slapped together has NO scientific validity, despite its reproduction (thousands of times) across the internet and among star deniers like Moore. Hieb based his graph on the work of a scientist (Chris Scotese) who was not an expert in paleo temperature reconstructions and whose ideas were long ago supplanted by better work based on actual physical proxy records. The fact that Moore employs a graph constructed by an amateur (and a climate change denier at that) to fool his audience should tell you everything you need to know about his integrity. Climate scientists regard the Monte Heib graph the same way they would regard their kindergartner's first attempt at "art." Unlike a child's first efforts, there is nothing funny or endearing about an amateur's attempt at deception and it certainly won't ever end up taped to their refrigerators. ;) Unfortunately, Moore uses a similar lie of omission with his wildfire graph, which appears to show far more wildfires in the 1920s and 30s than today. What he fails to share with viewers is that his graph includes millions of acres of INTENTIONAL BURNS. Today's wildfire graphs do not include intentional burns. Morever, according to fire data historians, burn acreage in the early 20th century was counted by multiple government agencies and sometimes counted TWICE. Moore also neglects to add critical context: Many fires in the early 20th cenury were simply left to burn out on their own because there were no access roads to reach them. Does he mention the speed traveled by horse-drawn fire carts vs. today's diesel fire trucks? The efficiency of today's powered hoses over hand-pumped hoses? The lack of early detection vs. today's super fast spotting by satellites? Moore has stated that the evidence doesn't show that human activity is causing climate change. That flies in the face of Cornell University's 2021 survey of over 88000 climate studies, which found a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's warming. So who's right? The thousands of PhD-level climate scientists who make up the consensus or a non-climate scientist who is regularly paid by big industry to make them look good?
@@kennethcole1551 If you had really done any research yourself you would have known that the vast majority of scientific papers published in the science journals of the 60s and 70s warned of global WARMING, not an imminent Ice Age. Look up "MYTH OF THE 1970S GLOBAL COOLING SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Vol 89, No. 9, Sept 2008, pp. 1325-1337 and see for yourself how the narrative has been twisted to mislead the public.
While Patrick Moore helped to stop the industrial whale fishing successfully, it should now focus on the smallest creatures: krill. Huge trawlers fish out krill by the millions of tons. Krill is at the beginning of the food chain, don't fish out krill, let it continue to be eaten by larger fish high in the food chain.
@@dnboro can you explain this with some more details please? As this is not what Patrick Moore says. Krill feeds on vegetation and ice cover reduces the amount of light entering the water, so the grows of algies. Makes sense to me.
@@WiersmaMark Sorry Mark - didn't see this until now. The first winter in their lifecycle, Antarctic Krill are protected by Sea Ice whilst they eat on algae on the underside of the ice. www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/animals/krill/
#11:30:01 - ...and government ministers. In US Washington State the Governor's carbon tax went to the General Fund to replenish the State Employee Pension Fund, they had stealthily looted from for free benefits and salary raise COLAs!😢 lPCC has long demanded a $2700-a-CO2-Tonne mitigation taxes. Translated from barrels of oil to tonnes CO2, they are *demanding a $25 a gallon 7€ a liter carbon tax at the pump!* These UK CA AU carbon taxes _are just the first ratchet up!_
Britain has a new nuclear power station being built called Hinkley C. It is years behind schedule and costs have risen from £24 billion to £48 billion. The Tory govt had to sign an agreement to pay way over the price per kWh to stop the company building it from pulling out. It will be the world’s most expensive electric ever generated. Building more nuclear is not an option unless you want to pay massively for energy
But wind and solar can not provide enough power - nuclear power can, and if we want to reduce dependence on fossil fuels, then there must at least be some nuclear power. And wind and solar are intermittent and unreliable, like when there is not enough wind or too much wind, the sun goes down at night and in cloudy countries the Sun does not even appear in the sky when the sky is fully cloudy and often when it is partly cloudy. I can not see wind power supplying the energy needs of an entire huge city like New York, London or others, certainly not in sufficient quantities.
"There are huge non climate effects of carbon dioxide which are overwhelmingly favorable which are not taken into account. To me that's the main issue that the earth is actually growing greener. This has been actually measured from satellites the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So it's increasing agricultural yields, it's increasing the forests, it's increasing all kinds of growth in the biological world and that's more important and more certain than the effects on climate." ~Freeman Dyson, Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.
Apparently you haven't seen NASA's follow-up satellite survey, which found that most of the greening has been due to massive new tree plantings (billions) and intense agricultural turnover in China and India. See HUMAN ACTIVITY IN CHINA AND INDIA DOMINATES THE GREENING OF THE EARTH, at the NASA website.
Well that's terrific. Perhaps you could give the 50 or so million people who will be impacted by sea level rise the good news. Might want to also give the good news to all the species of plants and animals that will go extinct.
The planet loves CO2 we are in a carbon drought the planet is greener oceans are not rising but some people just need their far left communist Kool-Aid
@@miked5106 Sea level has risen four inches since 1993, and its rate of rise has DOUBLED, according to NASA. (See NASA SEA LEVEL) According to NOAA, high tide flooding along the American south and Gulf coasts has increased an astonishing 400% and 1100% since the year 2000. (See NOAA HIGH TIDE FLOODING). Louisiana has already lost over 8800 acres to permanent inundation in its Lower Breton Sound area, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. It's why that state has a new $50 billion-dollar flood mitigation project in the works. So does New York, with its borough of Queens flooding on a regular basis. In January, Maine suffered a record high tide that caused $100 milion in damages. Annapolis is closing its City Dock neighborhood 60 times a year due to regular inundation. Miami Beach has been forced to raise 105 miles of roads by two feet. Globally, Odisha State in India reports losing no less than 16 coastal villages to flooding. The Maldives have lost 95% of their fresh drinking water resources to salt water overwash and infiltration and are spending half of their national budget on sea level rise mitigation. That includes the dredging of the sea floor to build up sinking beaches with new sediment on fifty of its islands. Patrick Moore, by the way, is a greenwashing, PR spokesman for the very polluting industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight. He is not a climate scientist, and he is profoundly debunked by those who are climate scientists. He is the former head of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by fossil fuel industry investors to promote the use of more gas and oil.
While total crop yields have been increasing in the past 50 years due to agricultural improvements, climate change is decreasing the rate of yield growth. Fisheries have been negatively affected in multiple regions. Agricultural productivity has been positively affected in some high-latitude areas, while mid- and low-latitude areas have been negatively affected. With 2 °C warming, less animal feed will be available by 2050. If the emissions continue to increase for the rest of the century, then over 9 million climate-related deaths would occur annually by 2100 on top of the annual 8.8 million deaths from the byproducts of fossil fuels. In the industrialized nations, 1.7 children per household or less has become the norm. It takes 2.1 children per household to maintain a population. This is one way to enforce population decline.
Moore is a liar. For years he has been saying there is no relation between co2 and temperature over the last 500 million years. But there is a relation between co2 and temperature if 2 other parameters are taken into account : the shape and distribution of the continents ( possibility to form ice caps at the poles) and the power of the sun which increases by 1% per 100 million years. I’m sure he knows that, but he is paid to say there is no correlation ! If the earth was not an ice ball 500 million years ago or more despite a much colder sun, this is because there was 10 or 20 times more co2. The couple of times when earth almost turned entirely into an ice ball it was because co2 dropped too low and could not balance a weak sun.
Patrick Moore isn't a climate scientist. He's a greenwashing PR shill for big industry. He's the former head of the CO2 Coalition, for example, which received millions from the oil industry to promote the use of more gas and oil. Not a single scientific institution anywhere on earth agrees with him that today's climate change is natural and good for us. Exactly the opposite. So we can trust the 99.9% consensus of publishing scientists who actually work in the field or we can trust a man who gets paid big bucks to make industry look good. What do you think?
Truly critical lies and ignorance. Moore is indeed a liar. For years he has been saying there is no relation between co2 and temperature over the last 500 million years. But there is a relation between co2 and temperature if 2 other parameters are taken into account : the shape and distribution of the continents ( possibility to form ice caps at the poles) and the power of the sun which increases by 1% per 100 million years. I’m sure he knows that, but he is paid to say there is no correlation ! If the earth was not an ice ball 500 million years ago or more despite a much colder sun, this is because there was 10 or 20 times more co2. The couple of times when earth almost turned entirely into an ice ball it was because co2 dropped too low and could not balance a weak sun.
"plastic is great for marine wild life" ...😂 Should I mention the weed killer incident ? 9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers. Moore shows the evolution of global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation" To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead. It is indeed quite ironic that for once deniers do not mention the sun. The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years. Then Moore does not mention that over 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled. The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps. Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not really forget, he chooses to keep these facts hidden. Talking about them would kill his narrative. There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
It helps his image if you don't know him well. Moore is a greenwashing, PR spokesman for polluting industries, paid to make them look good even when they do bad things. His former position at Greenpeace gives him priceless credibility, even though he works for the very industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight.
This comment was censored on Sabine Hossenfelder's channel. This is a test to see if Google deletes it. I think he's saying, it's impossible to debunk brain washing. Once smart people are fooled, they become trapped in the Overton Window for the group they livet in. There's a near insurmountable 'wall' between AGW skeptics and believers. Truth is, there's no 'proof' CO2 released by man has a significant effect on climate. Climate Change 'science' assumes AGW is true, and its believers focus on proving skeptics wrong, NOT understanding their arguments, which makes it impossible to include them in models. The predictions of various climate models looks like a fan, and they all require constant adjustments to track climate data as it accumulates. That doesn’t sound ‘settled’ in any way shape or form. The assumption that green energy causes no or minimal environmental damage is naive. Referring to the space under windmills as bird cemeteries, highlights this point. And it's a no brainer that covering large areas with solar panels will have harmful effects, as will 150db shock waves from pounding in windmill farms. Environmental Science is extremely complex. denigrating and excluding skeptics is destructive and guarantees faulty conclusions.
With a straight face this guy tries to convince you that plastic in the ocean is "the opposite of toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife. "We wrap our food in it" ... - What percentage of plastic is rated "food safe" ? Shampoo bottle ? Packaging plastic ? Styrofoam ? Industrial purpose plastic ? FIsh nets are food save ? PVC, nylon, acrylic - All these plastics degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction ... they turn into micro plastics, they release contaminants, toxic molecules and all of it enter the food chain. But with a straight face ... What a sad joke.
Well done Dr. Moore for pointing out that nuclear power is the safest answer to our energy problems. Compared with coal-mining, it has killed a negligible number of people, and could meet our entire base-load demand if politicians bit the bullet and were willing to make long-term investments.
"Well done Dr. Moore for pointing out that nuclear power is the safest answer to our energy problems." But that's not true. We are heading toward worsening ecological and societal collapse, and the last thing we want when many societies and their power supplies collapse are hundreds of operating nuclear stations that will then head into meltdown.
Since Australia has the largest uranium deposits, they should build all the nuclear plants there, then use super lasers to bounce power off the moon, into gigantic lithium battery banks powering enormous compressed air turbines to supply base load grid power to the massive AI blade warehouses, burning TW's of power chasing the last BTC in existence. *The point being this is NOT a technological issue, it's a economic perpetual war issue.*
@@AmericatheBeautiful-p4z I assume you are joking Robert. The mining, manufacture, transport, installation, use, and disposal of all the things you just mentioned would just accelerate ecological and societal breakdown. You're just ramping up entropy on Earth faster and faster. So yes, it IS a technological issue: By definition, only a much lower-tech civilization using more natural materials and manual labor is sustainable.
The catastrophe with GMO's is called Glyphosate, which is a systemic herbicide which has been shown to result in Non-Hoskins Lymphoma for high exposures (farmers) and Parkinson's disease potential for low exposure people.
#11:30:01 - The catastrophe with GMOs is in bT toxin gene spliced corn (maize), which is designed to kill insects by dissolving their guts. The same toxic bT gene kills small animals and birds. _There was no 'bird flu' until US Agra began dumping surplus bT corn as poultry feed!_ Today bT corn in our chips and pet kibble results in spiraling gastro-intestinal immuno- deficiencies and all-too-early deaths for our pets. If you enjoy using corn meal, look for Mexican products. Mexico has banned bT corn to stop dumping, although Trump tariff extortion may force Mexico to end the GMO ban, (the way US coup in Ukraine may force Russia to end their own ban on GMOs.) *We can start by buying only free-range non-GMO feed eggs.* You will love them!
Glyphosate is more destructive than u mention -- repeated applications on the same farmland slowly turns soil into dust .. chelating the minerals that plants would otherwise be absorbing. Let alone that its secondary effects of finding its way into water runoff and biofuel burnoff means we are indirectly ingesting a compound that our body is fooled into thinking it is the most basic of amines .. resulting in misfolded proteins being made by our metabolism.
It,s the use of glyphosphate on crops that,s the issue. The crops are GMO modified to resist that herbicide. The glyphosate is not genetically modified. It,s a chemical. It,s use is carcinogenic.
I absolutely enjoyed Dr. Moore's presentation. I'd like to hear him speak about the myth of so-called fossil fuels. We know that oil is created the earth's chemical processes (see The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth Of Fossil Fuels by the late Dr. Thomas Gold.)
Maybe you should vary your sources . Actually Moore made an extremely biased presentation. # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain. # glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
There is no "myth" behind fossil fuels. All fossil fuels contain biomarkers, proving they sprung from living organisms. Abiotic oil is rare on earth and is not the oil we're combusting into the atmosphere today.
He is 1 level above Al Gore. But it doesn't matter to the climate change cult followers like you, as long they support the climate Dogma, they are all climatogists @ErikGauger
@@Tengooda Sorry about that, but if personal attacks on people you disagree with is the best you can do, then take up a political cause that you are more conversant with.
Cite the data that refutes the scientific consensus on climate change. Moore isn't a climate scientist and does not work in the field. He's a greenwashing PR spokesman for big industry, paid to make polluters look good.
That's fossil fuel industry propaganda, promulgated by Patrick Moore, who is the former director of the CO2 Coalition, long funded by energy industry investors to promote the use of more gas and oil. The next major reglaciation wasn't due for tens of thousands of years. A new Ice Age has never been "imminent."
That "real" person is a greenwashing spokesman for polluting industries, not a climate scientist, and not a single scientific institution anywhere on earth agrees with him.
@@CC3GROUNDZERO You don't know what you are talking about. Climate Change activism is a fantasy pseudoscience based upon imaginary numbers in fictional datasets fabricated by the activists; i.e. an imaginary delusion.
If you guys are simple minded enough to gobble up Moore 's lies and idiotic talsk "Plastic is great for marine wildlife" weedkiller incident "Roundup/glyphosate is so harmless I could drink a glass of it" Moore understood a long time ago it is more lucrative to protect the polluters than to protect the environment. 9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers. Moore shows the evolution of the global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation" To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead. It is indeed quite ironic that for once the deniers do not mention the sun. The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years. Then Moore does not mention that other 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled. The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps. Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not forget. Talking about them would kill his narrative. There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
Dr Patrick Moore, You are a great man.. I am old enough to remember your efforts and successes. THANK YOU! CO2 / Oxygen are symbiotic each working withe the other.. We breath out CO2. Vegitation takes that in.. Gives off Oxygen The very cause of life cycles of both. ???
Thank you Patrick for speaking the truth, the Vostok records agree 😁, I'm now laughed at as a Climate change denier , I remember being a global warming denier 😅, please keep the faith 💪, and the truth that scientific fact will overcome politics 🙏👍
Well actually : # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain. # glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
@@linmal2242 Efforts to clean the Great Pacific Garbage Patch are spearheaded by organizations like The Ocean Cleanup, which deploys advanced systems to capture plastic waste. Their technology includes massive U-shaped barriers that drift with ocean currents, funneling plastic into a collection zone for removal. Since 2021, they’ve removed thousands of tons of plastic, targeting large debris like fishing nets and consumer waste before it breaks into microplastics. Complementing these efforts are advocacy campaigns promoting reduced plastic use, improved waste management, and increased recycling worldwide. While cleanup technologies are promising, experts agree that preventing plastic pollution at its source is critical to addressing the problem sustainably. Once plastic waste is removed from the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, these organizations transport it to shore for proper handling. The collected debris is sorted and recycled whenever possible to create new products, such as sunglasses and other consumer goods, helping fund cleanup efforts and raise awareness. Non-recyclable plastics are disposed of through methods like incineration with energy recovery, though this is used sparingly to minimize environmental impact. The ultimate goal is to ensure that the collected plastic does not return to the ocean or contribute to land pollution, while also advocating for systemic changes to reduce plastic production and waste.
A lot of mining companies ran blast drill on electricity, deiel electric haul truck, use tram lines on haul road and all shovel (rope and hydraulic) also run on electricity.
@@barleyarrish Oil industry CEOs make a hundred times the yearly salary that climate scientists do. Those CEOs also fund nearly 100 climate change-denial front groups, think tanks and websites, according to investigations by Drexel University. Patrick Moore himself is a former head of the CO2 Coalition, which has taken millions from the fossil fuel industry to promote the use of more gas and oil. Moore is not a climate scientist. He's a greenwashing shill for big industry and has been for decades.
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
It's probably best not to abuse capital letters because if you do, not only do you emphasis nothing but you declare to all the world that you are an hysterical raving lunatic. Is that what you want to do?
@@vhawk1951kl There is no "global temperature," but there is a clear global temperature trend, with each decade warming more than the previous one. So, no "collapse" of the science here. That warming trend is, according to NASA gravimeters, melting the icecaps at a rapid pace, which in turn is raising absolute sea level (up four inches since 1993 with a doubling of its rate of rise. See NASA SEA LEVEL RISE). According to NOAA, high tide flooding has risen an astonishing 400% and 1100% respectively along the U.S. southern and Gulf coasts. (See NOAA HIGH TIDE FLOODING). Maine is uplifting land from glacial rebound yet last January it suffered a record high tide that caused $100 million in damages. Louisiana has already lost over 8800 acres to permanent inundation in its Lower Breton Sound area, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. It's why that state has a $50 billion flood mitigation project in the works. So does New York, with the borough of Queens flooding on a regular basis. Annapolis closes the streets and businesses of one of its neighborhoods 60 times a year due to tidal overwash. Miami Beach has raised 105 miles of roads. Odisha State in India, meanwhile, reports that no less than 16 coastal villages have been lost to the rising tide. Pretty clear indications of a warming planet, my friend. So is the tripling of heatwaves the EPA says has happened since the 1960s. Marine heatwaves are up 20-fold, according to the University of Bern. Wildfire seasons have expanded by over a month, according to the U.S. Forest Service. Atlantic hurricanes have intensified 8% per decade for the last four decades, according to NOAA. A Taiwanese study of typhoons shows the same intensification. EPA stats show that extreme precipitation events are increasing around the world. So are drought intensity and drought urations, according to the IPCC. All pretty clear indications of a warming world unless you're deliberately trying not to see them.
Dr. Moore. Regarding your presentation at around the 26 minute mark where you stated: ''They always show the picture in the bottom right when they show you arctic ice". I don't know who 'they' are, but I know that satellite data since the 1990's has been compiled, and is easily accessed with a 2 minute google search. These data clearly show, with periodic time lapses, how much ice has been lost to this day and it is substantial! It was at this point in your video that I clicked away.
@@youtubeyoutube936 It doesn't matter that the Earth has been warmer in the past due to natural climate drivers because this time around, we know that our emissions caused ~98% of all warming since 1900, we are currently warming the planet ~20 times faster than it usually warms when coming out of an ice age, and such rapid warming and increased in CO2 levels cause the whole web of life to unravel. The science of this is much scarier than most people realize.
That same satellite research, extended out further back to 1980s found 98%+ correlation between *solar activity, global cloud cover and (real) surface temperatures.* There was no signal found correlating to linear increase in CO2, which we already KNEW does not exist. The report came just before the CLIMATE BOILING! and $1,400,000,000,000 'Reparations' ransom attempts at COP29. A PYRAMID of Scope 3 ESG Materiality Assessment audits and digital auto-deduct Carbon Taxes was set in place, offshored to In'dian IT processors. We won't be the First Peoples to be forced to pay a criminal tax we know to be a fraud! What's truly tragic though, our CHILDREN will not know, *as the IPCC CARBON VATICAN grows and metastasizes into a New Dark Ages of 10,000 Years of energy austerity.*
"Carboniferous period?" The period starts with 4000ppm and 25 degrees C global temperature 360 million years ago Carbon sequestration over the next 60 million years by coal and oil formation plus rock weathering bring co2 down to 500ppm and the temperature to about 10C. 20 million years after the end of the carbiniferous period th eSiberian traps bring co2 back to 4000ppm and the temperature skyrockets to 30+ degrees.
@@AmericatheBeautiful-p4z Please what is the name of the report ? Solar activity has been declining as a trend for 60 years. So your statement is hard to believe. By the way ... nobody ever suggested a linear correlation.
It's not the government. It's overwhelming scientific evidence. Eleven separate studies confirm the scientific consensus on climate change. Look them up by lead author on Google Scholar: Oreskes, 2004; Doran, 2009; Anderegg, 2010; Cook, 2013; Verheggan, 2014; Stenhouse, 2014; Carlton, 2015; Consensus on Consensus (multiple); 2016; Powell, 2018; Myers, 2020; Lynas/Houlton, 2021. In 2021, Cornell University surveyed the over 88000 climate studies published from 2012-2020 and tallied a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's climate change. Even Exxon's own scientists in leaked memos have acknowledged that combusted fossil fuels are warming the planet to a damaging degree. Over 80 academies of science and every scientific institution on earth, from NASA to NOAA to the World Meteorological Organization to the over 50,000 physicists in the American Physical Society publicly endorse the consensus position, which is precisely why every nation on earth is a card-carrying member of the IPCC. So it's 99.9% of publishing climate scientists and every scientific institution on earth vs. a greenwashing PR spokesman hired to make businesses look good. Who is more likely to be right?
I made it easy for you : # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain. # glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
Well, all of this presentation feels so good, and is factually correct as far as it goes, but leaves out some very important facts. One, sea level follows the same curves. Sea level 3 million years ago was nearly 9 meters higher with our current CO2 levels. And it is now rising over 4 mm per year, in fact every decade you can expect another mm per year increase. Two, heat waves, forest fires and storms are gutting the insurance and global transport industries. California, Texas and Florida insurance markets are especially affected. Three, Ocean temperatures are increasing fast. Ocean currents circulate warmer Ocean water under ice sheets and glaciers, melting them from underneath. Four, aquifers worldwide are being over utilized, and eventually will fail to deliver water for crops. So, by all means, dazzle us with earths ancient history. Just don't ignore the inconvenient facts about what else was going on, while you attempt to exonerate human failures and ignorance. The sea level will not stop rising until there is ocean atmosphere equilibration. Heat waves and fires will not stop until the jet stream flows normally, without omega blocks. As for ice sheets and aquifers .. Well, no one wants to starve, right?
Tipping Point is the Climate equivalent of Evangelical Signs & Tribulations. In fact the Climate Cult Revelations mirror all of the previous four fundamentalist hysterias 'The Sky God is Angry! Send Tïthes to UN lPCC Bishopry! Latest satellite records research shows 99% correlation between global cloud cover, solar cycle intensity and surface temperatures. _CO2 and methane impact are not detectable_ Cloud cover is in long-term decline from solar activity (and galatic location) cosmic rays that trigger cloud formation. That's what's driving change in weather. ALL WE CAN DO THEN IS PREPARE BY INCREASING CO2 AND BY PLANTING MORE COVER CROPS AND *BY PREVENTING UN BRUSSELS DICTATORSHIP AND BRUTAL CARBON TITHES.*
9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers. Moore shows the evolution of the global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation" To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead. It is indeed quite ironic that for once the deniers do not mention the sun. The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years. Then Moore does not mention that other 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled. The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps. Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not forget. Talking about them would kill his narrative. There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents drifting/locations.
Please don't. Moore has stated that the evidence doesn't show that human activity is causing climate change. That flies in the face of Cornell University's 2021 survey of over 88000 climate studies, which found a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's warming. So who's right? The thousands of PhD-level climate scientists who make up the consensus or a non-climate scientist who is regularly paid by big industry to make them look good?
9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers. Moore shows the evolution of the global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation" To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead. It is indeed quite ironic that for once the deniers do not mention the sun. The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years. Then Moore does not mention that other 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled. The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps. Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not forget. Talking about them would kill his narrative. There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
Moore isn't a climate scientist. He's the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by fossil fuel industry investors to promote the use of more gas and oil. Not a single scientific institution anywhere on the planet agrees with him that "more CO2 would be good for us."
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 All it takes is common sense to know C02 is not a Pollutant nor is it a control knob for temperature or climate. Why anyone allows themselves to be brainwashed to believe up is down is beyond me. Common sense shows you more C02 means More Green & its the reason plant growers introduce extra C02 when growing.
@@wandameadows5736 In 2007 the U.S. Supreme Curt officially ruled that CO2 is indeed a "pollutant." That's because in EXCESS it causes warming that melts the icecaps, raises sea levels, intensifies hurricanes, expands wildfire seasons, and increases heatwaves, marine heatwaves, extreme precipitation events, droughts, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases. CO2-driven warming accelerates evaporation, which fills the air with increased water vapor which then works synergistically with CO2 in a feedback loop to warm the planet further. Water vapor is not the control knob of the climate because it rains out an average of every 9 days, leaving huge holes in the atmosphere. CO2, by contrast, is a climate forcing, not a feedback effect, with molecules that remain in circulation for centuries.
Here in the U.K., we have the Drax Power-Station. That burns ‘biomass’ which is deemed to be OK. Yet that is wood. Which comes over from Canada by ship. Ludicrous, when we in the U.K. have millions of tons of coal underground
Some reason people want to believe in disasters that will destroy them? Yes I wonder that myself. Only thing I can work out that people are so dissatisfied about their lives that they look for a external solution to end the misery.
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
"The constant downward trend of CO2". Wow. He totally ignored the recent stable period, shown on his own graph, encompassing the entire pleistocene period into the holocene, during which HUMAN civilization has been able to flourish. You might want to stop and think about that because modern human beings don't have the same climate needs as dinosaurs or giant insects.
I don't get your point ... You're saying that the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere is appropriate to sustain life on Earth, it seems... Well, isn't that a given? And that's not how you identify a trend. ... Climate Alarmists are allowed to ignore segments of graphs, but that's not what is going on - the graph clearly shows CO2 diminishing over time - it, as you observed, plateaued during that period - the graph doesn't show CO2 rising above previous levels - it displays the downward trend you are trying to ignore.
@@jungleb77 nobody is 100% correct all the time, but cherry picking one (and it wasnt a very good one as per the response above) item to justify your thinking is deeply flawed, sort a like a climate hysterist.....Hes right on damn near everything he stands for and states, as much as climate fearmongers are wrong in everything they stand for and state
@@SchantaKlaus his point is that CO2 has been higher in the past, but during periods when life was much worse for humans or there were no humans at all. During the entire time that humans weren’t hiding from sabertooth tigers and dying all the time, CO2 has been stable and lower than it is today. CO2 is clearly increasing sure to industrial activity, it’s not magically going to decrease.
Can people who are predicting the end of the world at least suggest what can be done about it? One thing that can NOT be done is to return to a lifestyle of the past before the industrial revolution. For decades people have predicted the end of the world is imminent but the actual measures to prevent such an apocalypse have never occurred - after all emissions continue to rise after decades of being told to cut them and there is no sign at all this will change any time soon. I am just fed up of being told catastrophe is just around the corner when nothing has really been done to prevent such a catastrophe. Maybe the best thing to do is to do what I have done and not have children. There is no hope at all of solving the problems that beset the world, the climate is only one of many civilization ending threats, without human nature changing and that will never happen.
No consensus of mainstream climate scientists has ever predicted the end of the world from climate change. Nor do any of us have to return to the low-tech life before the Industrial Revolution. We only need to switch energy sources. Nothing else need change, including population. The world is slowly converting to those new energy sources. Surely you've noticed the solar farms and wind turbines going up everywhere. The best thing we can do to speed up the process is to vote out obstructing politicians who are in the back pocket of the oil industry. They have slowed our progress more than any other impediment.
As mr. Pike famously said; “Whenever the people need a hero we shall supply him.” The same goes for the villains on the world stage so, to put this man in perspective; the role he plays now is of a sort of hero for the people awake to the climate scam. It is a way to earn trust so they can use him to push the wrong idea on different topics. You'd probably find he was very much pro experimental injection or he defends hormone blockers for teens (I am just making up examples, I have not looked into it). The media is full of these fake heroes/villains, to name a few; Russell Brand, Alex Jones, Naom Chomsky or Joe Rogan. The list is long, I am trying to keep this comment short (if they'll even allow it to remain here).
The one area ? So you agree when he says "plastic is great for marine wild life" ? And also : 9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers. Moore shows the evolution of global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation" To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead. It is indeed quite ironic that for once deniers do not mention the sun. The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years. Then Moore does not mention that over 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled. The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps. Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not really forget, he chooses to keep these facts hidden. Talking about them would kill his narrative. There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
It has been studied quite thoroughly... But the real issue is that all attendees at the COP meetings know how bad plastics are - yet they have allowed increasing use of them when natural alternatives exist and are readily available. They ones telling us to feel guilty are the ones who do not lead by example - the rules for Thee and not for me approach tells me all I need to know.
"yet they have allowed increasing use of them when natural alternatives exist and are readily available. " It just shows lobbies are powerful. "when natural alternatives exist and are readily available" At the same scale ? Or would it be scalable ?
Moore Pro life !!! I made it easy for you : # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain. # glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
If I say Monsanto is bad, does that mean I'm scared of gmos ? No. I understand science and human nature. Not everything is black or white. Great presentation overall.
Have you heard of High-albedo crops? Uni students are working on them. They will be paler to reflect back the sun!!! So, a lack of green is a lack of chlorophyll - the chemical needed to process carbon dioxide and sunlight... If the plant can't do this then it can't produce energy. If we (or livestock) eat low energy foods we'll either have to consume more or we will become weak and sick.
@@philgowan6298 presentation of a lobbyist for the polluting industries. His temperature graphs are misinformation. You really think that plastic being degraded in the ocean by the UVs and sea salt is “the opposite of toxic” , ie beneficial to marine wildlife? Weed killer incident ?
Moore works on behalf of the very industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight. He is, for example, the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by energy industry executives and conservative climate denial groups to promote the use of more gas and oil. Check their website and see for yourself. Moore has also worked on behalf of the Nuclear Energy Institute, Asia Pulp and Paper (a logging firm), the CASEnergy Coalition, the Canadian Mining Association, the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada, Westcoast Energy and B.C. Gas, PVC manufacturer IPEX, and BHP Minerals. Moore isn't a climate scientist. His degree is in forest ecology, but he is not a forest ecologist, he's a paid spokesman for industry. Moore is famous for his assertion that "over the Earth's history there's no consistent correlation between CO2 and temperature." He then shows a graph which looks pretty damned convincing. The crime here is that no lay person questions his graph's validity and provenance. Or anything else he presents as Gospel. They should. Coal mining engineer and climate denier Monte Heib took historical CO2 data and historical temperature data and slapped them together in a hand-drawn graph and assumed this was an accurate depiction of earth's climate history. It wasn’t. But deniers and skeptics have posted and re-posted his famous graph thousands of times across the internet. It has ZERO scientific validity, as you would expect from someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing. The data he used was in time steps of ten million years, too long to determine correlations between CO2 and temps. (Climate scientists today use time steps of 500,000 years.) He also neglected to add the effects of a sun that increases its output as it evolves over hundreds of millions of years. Climate scientists regard the Monte Heib graph the same way they would regard their kindergartner's first attempt at "art." Unlike a child's first efforts, there is nothing funny or endearing about an amateur's attempt at deception and it certainly won't ever end up taped to their refrigerators. ;) Unfortunately, Moore uses a similar lie of omission with his wildfire graph, which appears to show far more wildfires in the 1920s and 30s than today. What he fails to share with viewers is that his graph includes millions of acres of INTENTIONAL BURNS. Today's wildfire graphs do not include intentional burns. Moreover, according to fire data historians, burn acreage in the early 20th century was counted by multiple government agencies and sometimes counted TWICE. Moore also neglects to add critical context: Many fires in the early 20th cenury were simply left to burn out on their own because there were no access roads to reach them. Does he mention the speed traveled by horse-drawn fire carts vs. today's diesel fire trucks? The efficiency of today's powered hoses over hand-pumped hoses? The lack of early detection vs. today's super fast spotting by satellites? Moore has stated that the evidence doesn't show that human activity is causing climate change. That flies in the face of Cornell University's 2021 survey of over 88000 climate studies, which found a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's warming. So who's right? The thousands of PhD-level climate scientists who make up the consensus or a non-climate scientist who is regularly paid by big industry to make them look good?
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 the four humours theory was the consensus of the medical profession for centuries (the idea that disease is caused by imbalances of the humours). Don't mistake consensus for fact.
@@Ethelred966 The consensus is based on the overwhelming evidence gleaned from the over 350,000 climate studies published in the last fifty years. By contrast, the "four humours" had no such data to support it, nor modern day PhD scholars, nor peer-reviewed studies, nor scores of scientific institutions. It was based merely on opinion and anecdote. The four humours were developed when people believed mice appeared spontaneously in piles of hay. Their science was infantile. You're drawing a false equivalency if there ever was one.
@Ethelred966 We are so deep into the multi-polar crisis, of which global heating is a symptom, there is no clear path forward out of our predicament, other than to not look (up).
I do a lot of plant, insect, and animal surveys; the latter being mostly of bats. Using bat detectors I venture out to detect where the bats are foraging after night flying insects. These detectors can be set to a vast kilohertz range, thus enabling me to hear what insects are calling. Much of the land I survey is farmland designated for building, and in these large fields (basically green deserts) there is not a sound of grasshoppers, crickets, or in fact ANY other vocal invertebrates. Similarly with the birds, not a sound!! These places are dead, except for the crop being sprayed to kill anything that may damage it. Of course, this being the case there are NO BATS, and neither are there any ground inverts scuttling about. The only places where I detect bats now are woodlands or urban gardens where the owners tend their plants far more sensitively.
That's truly chilling but not surprising to me. Back in the 1960s we used to take long distance road trips to my grandparents' house. By the time we got there, the car's grill and windshield would be splattered with countless insects. Today on the same trip? NOTHING.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 Agreed. The first time I ran my girlfriend (now wife) to her home she asked if I was OK? The reason was that I was driving very slowly, and weaving all over the quiet country road. My explanation was that I was avoiding the hundreds of large moths flying in the headlights. That was in June 1983. I did the same run last year at the same time in the same weather (June) and saw just two moths!
This has nothing to do with CO 2 why you are seeing less bugs and other insects is because of the type of pesticide spraying that is going on and this is down to us the people want perfect looking products plus i have a shit load of insects on my screen when i drive ESP in the summer it looks like a map of hell and tring to remove them is a like going to war
@@wheel-man5319 Unless you live in Phoenix, which last summer suffered through 31 straight days of above 110-degree temperatures. At 104 degrees photosynthesis breaks down, and many seeds won't even germinate. You can't farm in temperatures like that. Or consider the Amazon. In 2015 it suffered a record drought that killed an estimated 2.5 billion plants and trees and millions of animals. It was supposed to be a once in a thousand year event. Yet last year it happened again, only worse, killing far more flora and fauna and igniting 26 million acres with out-of-control wildfires. Rain forests are normally to wet to burn. It's important to keep in mind that the Amazon supplies us with a substantial amount of our oxygen. Then there are the 660 major cities that line the world's coasts. Sea level has risen four inches since 1993, and its rate of rise has doubled, according to NASA and the World Meteorological Organization. That in turn has increased high tide flooding all over the world. Louisiana and New York alone have already spent a combined $100 billion on new flood mitigation projects. Now multiply that by all the other vulnerable coastal areas that will have no choice but to empty their coffers to protect themselves from the rising tide. Warmer weather has consequences, and while it may be better for some, it won't be better for all.
@@wheel-man5319 So you're okay with spending trillions of dollars annually to clean up the damage from climate change and sea level rise? Okay with insurance companies jumping ship and leaving entire states? Okay with massive premium hikes in vulnerable areas? (As long as it's not yours, right?)
@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 Yes. As it happens, if there's a real problem rather than a power grab by an already power mad elite, then it is a reasonable spend. But I'm with Bjorn Lomberg on this. There are much better things to spend our money on since even the worst ipcc predictions don't really reach the point of being an existential threat.
@@Ethelred966 More CO2 equals more heat, which HURTS plants by increasing heatwaves, droughts, extreme precipitation events and droughts. See CLIMATE CHANGE CUT GLOBAL FARM PRODUCTIVITY 21% SINCE 1960S, a study by Cornell University in Science Daily, April 1, 2021. See also SEVERITY OF DROUGHT AND HEATWAVE CROP LOSSES TRIPLED OVER THE LAST FIVE DECADES IN EUROPE, in Environmental Research Letters, Jun 10, 2021. Did Patrick Moore tell you what happened in the Amazon in 2015.? A massive drought killed an estimated 2.5 billion plants and trees and millions of animals. It was supposed to be a once in a thousand year event, yet in 2023 it happened again, only far worse, killing even more flora and fauna and setting ablaze 26 million acres with out-of-control wildfires. Rain forests are normally too wet to burn. Also to keep in mind: the Amazon supplies us with a substantial portion of our oxygen. Moore isn't a climate scientist. He's a greenwashing PR spokesman for industry, including big oil when he headed the CO2 Coalition. Not a single scientific insititution on earth agrees with him that today's climate change is "natural" and "harmless" and that more CO2 would be "good for us." NONE. NADA. ZILCH. Give that some thought. Moore earns his money because he performs his PR job well. He certainly persuaded you into believing him.
@@barleyarrish The "gas of life" is one of the fossil fuel industry's favorite propaganda memes. Just a little lie of omission that conveniently leaves out that rising CO2 causes the warming that melts the icecaps, raises sea levels, intensifies hurricanes, expands wildfire seasons, reduces farm productivity, and increases heatwaves, marine heatwaves, extreme precipitation events, droughts, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases. It leaves out the trillions of dollars climate change is costing us and the fleeing of insurance companies from vulnerable areas of the world.
CO2 0.042% man is responsible for ~3% of the flux, but 33% of the stock Do you know what is the percentage of ozone, O3, in the stratosphere ? The same ozone which blocks 99% of the most dangerous UVs ?
@@philippesarrazin2752 0.00006%, are we comparing Chalk and Cheese? The point of Illustrating that CO2 is a trace Gas and that most CO2 which is present in the Atmosphere is of Natural Origin shoud be abundently clear. Also if one studies Climate one has to recognise CO2 Functionality in climate forcing, of course climate alarmists poor luv's run a mile from hard evidence. Here is an interesting recent paper that might help you: scienceofclimatechange.org/wp-content/uploads/SCC-Ato-Multivariate-Analysis-Vol.4.2.pdf
Pointing to co2 being only 0.04% just demonstrate ignorance. Ozone is only 0.001% and blocks 99% of the most dangerous UVs. Physics shows CO2 is a GHG with significant radiative forcing at this concentration. Anthropic CO2 in the atmosphere is today 33% of total CO2.
Well actually : # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain. # glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
@@philippesarrazin2752 NOBODY FACT-CHECKS. The ease with which someone like Moore wih a handful of official-looking graphs can hoodwink people is troubling, to say the least.
How sad to see Patrick mislead people. I urge people here to view other videos and read on the very real dangers of CO2 and methane. Patrick s not telling you the whole story and you owe it to yourself to get other views on climate change. As far as nuclear power goes, I agree with Patrick that can continue to make a valuable contribution to our energy needs. Good luck all. I'll be dead and gone but younger people here should consider---what if Patrick is wrong? This is somethng you REALLY can't afford to be wrong about, so it is worth your while to be really really sure about considering that virtually the entire scientific community views climate change as a growing threat to humanity.
Are you misunderstanding net zero? Net zero means stopping our CO2 emissions from increasing the atmospheric accumulation any further. It doesn't mean elimination of all CO2 from the atmosphere. It means balancing the amount of our emissions by how much is absorbed.
Not only isnet zero insanity but al so it is completely and utterly futile. What is les than sane is the queer idea that the climate is something that can be fine tuned..
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
@@vhawk1951kl Please enlighten us as to why the icecaps are melting, sea level is rising, hurricanes are intensifying, wildfire seasons are expanding, and why heatwaves, marine heatwaves, extreme precipitation events, drought intensity, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases are increasing worlwide. Tell us why the glaciers are melting and global snowpack is diminishing. Tell us why the Amazon suffered a once in a thousand year record drought in 2015 and 8 years later suffered an even worse record drought that burned down 26 million acres with out of control wildfires.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 None of what you allege is true nor have you verified any of it for yourself. You are as passive and credulous as a kinderlander or American. The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
CO2 decreased over millions of years because we no longer have the massive and long-term volcanic upheaval from the collision and break-up of continents. Sea-floor spreading itself has greatly slowed. (Down 38% from 19 million years ago.) Ocean chemistry changes have also played a role, specifically with a decrease in dissolved calcium, creating conditions where CO2 becomes more soluble in the oceans, reducing CO2 in the atmosphere.
@@murraymcgregor7829 Not even remotely true. You've bought into Patrick Moore's fossil fuel industry propaganda, not science. With thousands of volcanoes and trillions of organisms spewing gigatons of CO2 every year there isn't the slightest chance that CO2 would ever drop down to levels low enough to hurt plants. For the 800,000 years leading up to the Industrial Revolution, in fact, CO2 never got above 300ppm and most of the time remained around 260ppm, and the world didnt end. This is a scare story from big oil, not reality. The ocean in fact is fast approaching a temperature that will push CO2 out into the atmosphere rather than absorb it. When that happens, the greenhouse effect will strengthen in earnest and we'll be in serious trouble, as even more CO2 will be entering the atmosphere.
@@murraymcgregor7829 Wow. The last time CO2 was as high as it is today, humans did not even exist. So why do we need more than we have ever had to sustain life. It seemed to be sustained for a very long time before the industrial revolution.
A decrease in calcium would mean an increase in CO2 only because the carbonate forming organisms are being starved out of the water column. If oceans are 'warming' (they're not) that would decrease CO2 solubility and then reduce 'acidification'. So which is it? If sun is warming the oceans that would be the source of increasing CO2 in the air. If oceans are cooling, that would increase acidification. The whole Climate Change BIöb is replete with these physical conflicts, so they Tipping Point! and run away.
@@AmericatheBeautiful-p4z There is no conflicting information. You're simply misinformed. The oceans today are a net ABSORBER of CO2, not net EMITTERS. As they continue to warm that process will reverse, which is projected to happen sometime within the next century. The oceans are warming at a record rate, now at 360 (+2) zetajoules, according to NASA. The last ten years were the warmest years of all. See NASA OCEAN WARMING and let me know what you see on their graphs.
As far as I was taught in school (a semi-private secondary school down in Patagonia Argentina) the problem with GMOs wasn't the GMO part of it, but the fact that they were modified to tolerate extremely high amounts of pesticides. The idea is that you engineer a powerful plant killer, then you engineer your desired crop to resist it, then you apply plant killer to your crops and all the weeds die while your GMO plant survives. On one hand yes, it makes sense that we might want to find an alternative to using mass plant poisoning to stop weeds.. ..on the other hand, that doesn't mean AT ALL that Genetic Modification is the problem. People trying to ban (or refusi g to buy) GMO crops entirely because SOME of them are GM'd to resist Pesticides, is to me the same as banning knives because some dood stabbed someone on the bar down the corner. It's nonsensical and the potential collateral damage to humanity WAY outweighs any possible benefits.
Going against nature will always fail. We need to stop sciencing everything, it's why we have agricultural issues in the first place. Britain used to farm very successfully until the government and it's scientists stepped in. Now we've lost mush of our arable land making us dependent upon supply chains from abroad - how is that Green exactly? Working with the land and native plants and creatures will always prevail. Time we kicked these meddling suits, who've probably never accidentally stepped in cow dung, away from our food supply.
Great lecture! The big producers and traders of food put it in plastic to keep it clean and portioned during handling and transport and for documentation. Nobody wants to eat the wrapping; in fact, many try to buy locally produced food that's not wrapped in plastic to protect their health. We are also aware of hormone-like effect of some plastics on the body of mammals and fish. Even if CO2 isn't the case of the historical warm times, it might still pose a problem these days, while other causes - like sun activity, Milankovich cycles, Jupiter's position (still sounds like astrology to me) are quite fixed or in no temporal correlation to climate development. The difference between the situation of hundreds of millions or even just some millennia ago and now is that we've got a planet full of humans, which can't move away to avoid climate problems like misharvests, draughts, rising water levels, etc. even if those are less than millions of years ago. Because there are already humans EVERYWHERE, which use all their land and just don't want to share. And in many cases can't share, because they've reached a population density that requires optimized usage of all their natural resources to survive. This results in the problem that even just a partial return to earlier times in earth's history will end in wars over land and resources, ...even more than we experience today.
This is not science. It's paid politics. Every year that goes by makes it more difficult for Mr. Moore to maintain his position on this issue. His efforts are at least heroic, if not lucarative.
@@JohnPoxon-t2t But look at what will happen to us if everyone goes along with this anthropomorphic Climate Change nonsense - life will not be worth living. I'd say the ones who stand to gain absolute control over all life on Earth are the guys we need to stop listening to.
It would show co2 follows warming in the geologic record. Co2 is the gas of life. Which would humanity most likely survive; iceball earth or green earth? Think food. We grow food during the summer.
@@dey4588 Only a reptiloid would say such things. Also you just gave a good explanation to stay IN a burning building, cause CO2 is just the "gas of life". Fun fact: it can literally kill you.
Things climate alarmists don't tell you about CO2. CO2 has increased about 40% in the last 120 years, but the global climate has not warmed anywhere near 40%. In that same period, the earth is quite a bit greener now with 20% more natural plant growth and about the same amount of increased farming (food) production. In controlled greenhouse experiments, increasing CO2 up to 1200 PPM dramatically increased the production in the greenhouse without increasing the heat within them.
Earth doesn't warm 40% just because CO2 rises 40%. Earth warms by about 1.5-2C. A doubling of CO2 would increase warming by about 3C. Not sure where you got the idea that temperature rises in lockstep with every percentage point of CO2, but it isn't from science. The outside world is not a greenhouse. In the outside world, the warming that accompanies rising CO2 melts the icecaps, raises sea levels, increases high tide flooding, elevates storm surges, expands wildfire seasons, intensifies hurricanes, and increases lightning strikes, heatwaves, marine heatwaves, droughts, extreme precipitation events, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases. The cost of increased climate damage is projected to reach $38 trillion per year by 2050. The increasing droughts and heatwaves alone are increasing crop losses. Farm productivity, in fact, is 21% LOWER than it would otherwise be without global warming, according to Cornell University. Big industrial farms can afford crop insurance to cover their losses, but the small farms cannot and are dropping like dominoes worldwide. While higher CO2 can improve plant growth, it does so at the price of nutrients. It actually diminishes zinc, iron and protein content in several staple farm crops, including wheat, rice and potatoes. That means we must eat MORE of those foods to get the same nutritional benefit, thus cancelling out the extra growth factor.
@@philippesarrazin2752 Oh suddenly now its sarcasm. LOL. And yet I'm the one who is confused. OK friend, whatever, makes you feel better after making a stupid post.
Spectroscopic analysis of the atmosphere shows us more heat returning to earth at the wavelengths CO2 traps and less heat leaving earth at the wavelengths CO2 traps. A greenhouse effect.
@@martinkirchhoff1084 moore is out of the climate consensus, which is not science. Voting for who is wrong or right is a democratic decision. Science is observation, verification and replication, as Moore correctly says. Co2 being the main driver of climate change has never been proven. It is fear mongering.
Good for hiM , the fallacy argumentum ad populum is a favourite of crazed religious fanatics that subscribe to that asinine religion of climate-change/globalwarming_ism. can you not se the flaw in eat sh1t, fifty billion gazilion flies can't be wrong?
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
To what is that relevant and more shortly, so the fcuk what?
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
By "study the geologic history of our planet..", you mean believe what others tell them about what those other believe or suppose about the past How might you or I discover anything about the non-existent or past Who is to decide what is whatever you mean by the geologic history of our planet..? Is it not axiomatic that no being can directly immediately personally experience anything or *know* at all of the non-existent or past, but perhaps you are not concerned with epistemology
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
Sure. Check this then : Moore is indeed a liar. For years he has been saying there is no relation between co2 and temperature over the last 500 million years. But there is a relation between co2 and temperature if 2 other parameters are taken into account : the shape and distribution of the continents ( possibility to form ice caps at the poles) and the power of the sun which increases by 1% per 100 million years. I’m sure he knows that, but he is paid to say there is no correlation ! If the earth was not an ice ball 500 million years ago or more despite a much colder sun, this is because there was 10 or 20 times more co2. The couple of times when earth almost turned entirely into an ice ball it was because co2 dropped too low and could not balance a weak sun.
@@LarryCleveland Just two for you, The white cliffs of Dover and all limestone deposits, not to mention what has already been consumed by the Subduction zones.
@@barleyarrish I don't care how much CO2 or heat there was millions of years before humans evolved. I care about the climate in which we became extraordinarily successful (the last 5,000 years mostly).
The current pattern and speed of climate warming is clearly unprecedented, even though "the climate has always changed". The warming is undeniably matching or exceeding what many climate models had predicted. Every year that goes by means that Patrick Moore needs to further extend his mental gymnastics to twist and contort science data to fit a political narrative. Very impressive.
I like the argumentation: We went to Alaska and hydrogen bombing stopped. We did this and that and succeeded. I would add to the list that to this day some East Germans believe that the Vietnam war stopped because of the protests in the East Block. Successes all around if only in the minds of the activists. Congratulation. Sarcasm over.
Corals require warm water in order to extract the CaCO3 for their skeletons. Carbonic acid is a weak acid. Corals should be more concerned about hydrogen sulfide.
Moore works on behalf of the very industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight. He is, for example, the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by energy industry executives and conservative climate denial groups to promote the use of more gas and oil. Check their website and see for yourself. Moore has also worked on behalf of the Nuclear Energy Institute, Asia Pulp and Paper (a logging firm), the CASEnergy Coalition, the Canadian Mining Association, the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada, Westcoast Energy and B.C. Gas, PVC manufacturer IPEX, and BHP Minerals. Moore isn't a climate scientist. His degree is in forest ecology, but he is not a forest ecologist, he's a paid spokesman for industry. In other words, he's a liar.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481thank you for clarifying where he comes from : there is a huge lobby from the fossil industry to continue the statu quo to preserve their massive income
Highly respect and pretty much sing from the same song sheets as Patrick, save his GMO comments, which I counter with: 1.) they likely contribute to digestive disorders and complications, and much more root toxilogically, 2.) the health issue is the herbicides and pesticides sprayed on the GMO crops bio-engineered to withstand same. We are not GMO'd (yet), and cannot withstand these herbicides and pesticides.. which consumption linear risk of developing chronic, debilitating and terminal diseases. The censored and attacked health science says so.
@@philippesarrazin2752 1st Q: no. 2nd Q: I'll repeat "2.) the health issue is the herbicides and pesticides sprayed on the GMO crops bio-engineered to withstand same. We are not GMO'd (yet), and cannot withstand these herbicides and pesticides.. which consumption linear risk of developing chronic, debilitating and terminal diseases. The censored and attacked health science says so.".
Why do you think he manipulates people with this : 21:00 Moore shows the temperature of Greenland GISP2 site for the last 5000 years. But the most recent temperature on this graph is for the year 1855, on the right side, it is not "now" ! Just follow the source given under the graph and visit the NOAA web page. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855.
Why do you think he blatantly lies here : 9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers. Moore shows the evolution of the global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation" To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead. It is indeed quite ironic that for once the deniers do not mention the sun. The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years. Then Moore does not mention that over 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled. The shapes and locations of the oceans and continents are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps and impact the albedo. Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not forget. Talking about them would kill his narrative. There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
When it's -35 outside, it is hard to get excited about global warming. Perhaps journalists commenting on technical matters should have engineering or science degrees.
When its over 110 degrees outside for 31 straight days, as it was in Phoenix last summer, it's hard to think of anything else but global warming and the fallout it causes.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 "By the time cool air from Canada’s Hudson Bay arrived to relieve the baking Upper Midwest in July 1936, the United States had sweat through a torrid heat spell that stretched to New York. "“North Winds Halt Hot Wave,” blared an exultant headline on the front page of The Chicago Daily Tribune *_on July 15, 1936._* "The heat wave, which pushed temperatures to 100 degrees in Illinois and 120 degrees as far north as North Dakota, left some 5,000 people dead. "In New York, a high of 106 degrees was recorded in Central Park. Desperate for relief, people slept on roofs and fire escapes and flocked to public pools, which stayed open until midnight. New York City recorded 21 drownings as adults and children who didn’t know how to swim but were desperate to cool off jumped into the water. "The Dust Bowl, the drought in the Great Plains that was partially caused by agriculture practices, appeared to supercharge the heat wave. Its duration made it especially challenging: Temperatures hit 100 degrees for 12 straight days in Springfield, Ill., according to the National Weather Service." (nytimes)
@@larrygrove5649 Yes, Phoenix is desert, but you do realize that it's now hotter than ever? The hottest summers of all occurred in 2023 and 2024, right? In the 1950s, Phoenix had about seven days a year with temperatures of 110°F or higher. In the 2010s, Phoenix averaged 27 days a year with temperatures of 110°F or higher. Since 2021, Phoenix has averaged 42 days a year with temperatures of 110°F or higher. In 2023, it was 55 days above 110. In 2024 it was 70 days above 110. Don't see a pattern there, Larry? Is the Amazon a desert? In 2015 a record heat-driven drought killed an estimated 2.5 billion trees and plants and millions of animals. That record wasn't expected to be matched again for centuries yet just 8 years later it happened again, only worse, killing even more flora and fauna and igniting 26 million acres with out-of-control wildfires. Normally rain forests are too wet to burn. Is the ocean a desert? A marine heatwave off Alaska in 2014-2016 killed 4 million seabirds known as Murres. Over half of its population was wiped out. In 2018 a marine heatwave off Alaska killed an estimated 10 billion snow crabs. In 2013 warming waters off Maine collapsed its shrimp fishery. The shrimp have yet to return.
Can't you see the lies ? At all ?? Let me help you then : # The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters. The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics. Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles. When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation. CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies. To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving. # The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ? It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph. There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP . Which means 95 years before BP. Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year". Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now" Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming. Here again, this is deceiving. # The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ? It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site. Deceiving again. # His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ? Seriously ? All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain. # glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
Spoiler Alert,one possibility is that CO2 increase may cause more rain,this is a definite possibility,CO2 was the first thing used in cloud seeding experiments that worked,it is possible but by the same token more rain will remove more CO2 from the atmosphere.
Two big bad things in GMO's, 1) Improved fructose production which is largely responsible for the diabetic epidemic in the United States, and 2) Seeds that can't reproduce so poor farmers HAVE to buy seed from Monsanto each year rather than retaining a portion of their crop to plant in the next season.
Can an epidemic have diabetes and the fuck has disbetes to do withe asinine religion of climte-change/global warming_ism , which religion is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature. It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth. A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate. Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.) ‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars. If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit. If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'. If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
You are confusing abs conflating the entirely unconnected and unrelated. Who told you that there is a diabetes epidemic in in kinderland/America and why do you believe them? - Just born as passively credulous as a kindelander? that asinine religion of climate-change/global warming_ism is a sub-religion of that queer religion modernism to which nearly all of those that work in what is called the media subscribe so the various media act as a pulpit for the various religions and sub-religions of modernism such asclimate-chsnge/global warming_ism and sewerism/homosexual_ism cum fake-omen_ism
@@4Nanook glyphosate is so safe he could drink a quart of it …, right ? Total uniformisation of seeds, having a handful of companies deciding of the attrition of the genes pool.
Grasslands upon which ruminant animals live also build the soil. As a regenerative farmer I witness this beautiful process every day.
And there ain't no trees out there on the prairies. Yep, when I see cows, I see steak and fertilizer (and a host of other products). Cheers to you for keeping it going. Grasslands evolved to be grazed, and if they're not, they degrade into desert.
U of Arizona did an interesting study on desert tortoises. The common wisdom is that cows were killing them and needed to be removed. That was done, and a lot of tortoises starved to death. Why? Because they don't eat plants, they eat dung. Cows replaced bison in the ecosystem, pretty much one for one. (Actually, there were probably more bison.) They are, in fact, necessary for the health of the system.
@@Reziac and peterdreyer5954 Thanks for your insights! I have heard our food is deficient in magnesium because these corporations use artificial fertilizer which binds to magnesium and prevents it uptake into the plant. If Big Food started farming regeneratively, replenishing the soil with manure we wouldn't have such a metabolic health epidemic.
Extra CO2 means a lot of extra Income for you
@@murraymcgregor7829 I am sure a lot of farmers, big n little do, and use such as Mo Super to adjust that imbalance.
food animals are good for plants and animals since they produce CO2, manure, and burgers
humane systems need enforcement and development
Green Peace is neither green, nor peaceful.
Don't worry - there's 1200 gigatons of pressurized methane in the world's largest ocean. So Mother Nature is taking revenge big time.
How do you know that"Green Peace is neither green, nor peaceful"? - Yo have exactly how much direct immediate personsl percipience(as direct immediate and personal as pain) of greenpeace, when an where?
none at all, ever?
No surprises there.
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
It is certainly not two words, the rest of what you say is even less factual.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 Mother nature doesn't exist.
@@vhawk1951kl Why are you telling me all of this? Did my post sound like I support the idiocy of a climate crisis?
Green peace isn't peaceful because they engage in violence and disruption. They aren't green either as they use fossil fuels literally by the boat load.
C02 is a necessity for life and we need more of it! It makes things green.
Water is good for life.
But water can also drown.
Your ignorance is astounding. You obviously never studied science or at best, you failed the course.
@@JohnPoxon-t2twow, what a great argument.🤦
@@JohnPoxon-t2t Prove it.
@@JohnPoxon-t2t What is it that makes you so smart?
Dr Patrick Moore makes so much sense, I love what he says. What a beautiful world we could have if the Evil powers that be would leave this world.
@@Sabastianspreadworth yes “plastic is great for marine wildlife “
Makes so much sense.
So just like him you drink glyphosate ?
With a straight face this guy tries to convince you that plastic in the ocean is "the opposite of toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife.
"We wrap our food in it" ...
- What percentage of plastic is rated "food safe" ? Shampoo bottle ? Packaging plastic ? Styrofoam ? Industrial puprpose plasctic ? FIsh nets are food save ? PVC, nylon, acrylic
- All these plastics degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction ... they turn into micro plastics, they release contaminants, toxic molecules and all of it enter the food chain.
But with a straight face ... What a sad joke.
Devil in disguise !
We need to ask the right questions. No more knee-jerk pessimism regarding humanity.
I totally agree with you .
You need to start thinking.
I made it easy for you :
#
The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
#
The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
#
The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
#
His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, behaving as hormone disruptors, entering the food chain.
#
Brilliant manipulation indeed. And so many buy it !
Spot on
Respect to you, Patrick. You demonstrated your environmental concerns courageously in the early days of Greenpeace. That adds to your credibility as a courageous critic of current environmental concerns. I hope that many people will follow the plain and simple evidence in your excellent presentation and put some common sense back into environmental management. The global warming/CO2 gravy train, not just for scientists but for publishers, journalists, businesses, and politicians, has been rumbling on with all criticism marginalized for too long. Real science is objective and debatable, not a moral commandment promulgated by folk who earn richly by scaring us.
You gobble up his plastic story ? You should do some research about what kind of plastic ends up in the ocean and what happens to it when exposed to UVs, sea salt and friction.
Weedkiller incident ? "Glyphosate is so safe I could drink a qaurt of it".
He blatantly lies or misinform with his temperature graphs.
That guy has lost complete credibility. He is now a PR guy for the worst industries.
@@philippesarrazin2752 Yes, I "gobbled up" Moore's presentation. Also, last night, 'Have you ever seen a lithium mine?" by Scott Tinker because of his refreshingly balanced view of energy production globally and his excellent presentation too. Concerning plastics, my view is that they do not belong in the sea whether anyone thinks it's a global problem or not; at best it's just bad housekeeping. Leatherback turtles, an endangered species, eat plastic bags in mistake for their usual prey, jelly fish. And jelly fish definitely are a global problem, in my opinion, because they are indiscriminate predators that fill the gap made by globally fishing down predatory fish, like tuna and cod, and, since jellyfish eat fish larvae as well as adults, they prevent or slow the re-emergence of the fish stocks cut back by fishing. Look up 'Trophic cascades' if you are interested, for example Georgi Daskalov's study of the degradation of the Black Sea to jelly fish domination in the Proc. Nat. Acad of Sciences v104, pp 10518 - 10523. The same could be happening in our oceans. If you have evidence about plastics in the sea, please tell us. Discussions on RUclips seem to be the best way to inform ourselves these days. The IPCC (on climate) and the INC (on plastics in the oceans) are inter-governmental committees that appear to be more focussed on money (the Climate Finance Fund, and the Plastics industry, respectively) than on their respective subject areas.
It is not just visible plastic.
"we wrap our food in it ..." Sure ! ALl kinf of plastic ends up in the ocean. Not just the food grade ones.
ANd they will all degrade.
Visible plastic may be the least harmful ones !
They will all degrade into tiny particles and toxic additives entering the food chain.
Chemical Exposure
Toxic Substance Accumulation:
Leaching of Additives: Plastics often contain additives like bisphenol A (BPA), phthalates, and flame retardants, which can leach into the tissues of animals upon ingestion, disrupting endocrine functions.
Adsorption of Pollutants: Plastics can absorb harmful pollutants from seawater, including heavy metals and persistent organic pollutants (POPs) like PCBs and DDT. When ingested, these toxins can accumulate in the animal's body.
Biological Effects:
Hormonal Disruptions: Chemicals from plastics can interfere with hormone regulation, affecting growth, metabolism, and reproduction.
Immune System Suppression: Exposure to toxic substances can weaken the immune response, making animals more susceptible to diseases and infections.
Reproductive Issues: Toxins can lead to reduced fertility, developmental abnormalities in offspring, and altered sex ratios in populations.
Microplastics and Nanoplastics
Cellular and Tissue Damage:
Inflammation and Stress: Microplastics (less than 5 mm) and nanoplastics (less than 100 nm) can cause inflammation and oxidative stress at the cellular level when ingested or inhaled.
Tissue Accumulation: These tiny particles can accumulate in organs such as the liver, kidneys, and even cross into the bloodstream, potentially causing long-term health effects.
Disruption of Feeding Mechanisms:
Filter Feeders Affected: Organisms like mussels, oysters, and zooplankton can ingest microplastics, which may clog feeding apparatuses or reduce feeding efficiency, impacting growth and reproduction.
"we wrap our food in it ..." Sure ! All kind of plastic ends up in the ocean. Not just the food grade ones.
Add they will all degrade.
Visible plastic may be the least harmful ones !
They will all degrade into tiny particles and toxic additives entering the food chain.
#Chemical Exposure
-Toxic Substance Accumulation:
+Leaching of Additives: Plastics often contain additives like bisphenol A (BPA), phthalates, and flame retardants, -which can leach into the tissues of animals upon ingestion, disrupting endocrine functions.
+Adsorption of Pollutants: Plastics can absorb harmful pollutants from seawater, including heavy metals and persistent organic pollutants (POPs) like PCBs and DDT. When ingested, these toxins can accumulate in the animal's body.
#Biological Effects:
-Hormonal Disruptions: Chemicals from plastics can interfere with hormone regulation, affecting growth, metabolism, and reproduction.
-Immune System Suppression: Exposure to toxic substances can weaken the immune response, making animals more susceptible to diseases and infections.
-Reproductive Issues: Toxins can lead to reduced fertility, developmental abnormalities in offspring, and altered sex ratios in populations.
#Microplastics and Nanoplastics
Cellular and Tissue Damage:
Inflammation and Stress: Microplastics (less than 5 mm) and nanoplastics (less than 100 nm) can cause inflammation and oxidative stress at the cellular level when ingested or inhaled.
Tissue Accumulation: These tiny particles can accumulate in organs such as the liver, kidneys, and even cross into the bloodstream, potentially causing long-term health effects.
Disruption of Feeding Mechanisms:
Filter Feeders Affected: Organisms like mussels, oysters, and zooplankton can ingest microplastics, which may clog feeding apparatuses or reduce feeding efficiency, impacting growth and reproduction.
And then his temperature graphs, the lecture he makes of them are so wrong .
The evidence is overwhelming, rising CO2 causes hysteria.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@anthonymorris5084
...no worries, take a deep breath...
@@JugglinJellyTake01 Hold your breath, permanently.
So much they need to tax us more
@@1972martind28 Yup. The Left solve every single problem with a tax, and environmentalists solve every single problem with this phrase - "Stop doing that, you can't do that anymore". Both represent some of the most myopic people on Earth.
I really appreciate the academic depth on this subject. Keep the discussion objective, free from panic and pandering to alarmists.
academic depth or twisted facts ? 🤔
These is no academic depth here but only twisted science popularization.
I have nothing against honest science popularization, it can make wonders to educate.
But here ...
😂
Actually, you can put coal in a pipe. They did it for years to supply the now demolished Mojave Generating station. The coal was crushed and mixed with water to make a slurry and it was pumped hundreds of miles and dewatered with centrifuges before it was burned.
"Dewatered?(sic)!!!! *Only* in kinderland-America
clever
For relatively short distances but ships and trains are still the most efficient form of transport
@@vhawk1951kl I'm guessing you don't work in power generation. So you wouldn't know what a deaerator is either (it removes air & other gases from condensate water before it is sent into the boiler feedwater system). Let me assure you, dewatering is a thing.
"The problem with science is science follows the money." ~Russell Brand
Wow, getting your science information from an addled drug addict/rapist. Does the stupidity in this country get any lower?
Patrick Moore, funded by fossil fuel corporations to deny basic science in his lectures, is the very example of that expression.
And Russell Brand would know.
@@petewright4640 good point. I’ve never heard of him. Who’s Russel Brand? Guess I’ll have to look him up lol
Looked him up he’s definitely not the epitome of intelligence
Observation bias is alive and well, everywhere. My 27 year old son introduced me to how it was affecting my thinking. The younger generation may well be our saviours! The non kool aid drinking ones at least.
One of the best videos I’ve ever seen to debunk the propaganda they are feeding us. Thanks 🙏
You just show that you are gullible .
Please, demonstrate I'm wrong :
#
The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
#
The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
#
The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
#
His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain.
#
glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
Despite the documented evidence you stand your ground ?
I could listen to patrick every day - common sense personified
I prefer to get my Big Oil lies straight from Big Oil since I also worked for Greenpeace but I'm not a sell-out.
You could listen to dumbed down corporate bullshet every day?
Is it because it’s easier to understand?
Or is it less frightening?
Patrick Lies For Money!!!
Moore is indeed a liar. For years he has been saying there is no relation between co2 and temperature over the last 500 million years.
But there is a relation between co2 and temperature if 2 other parameters are taken into account : the shape and distribution of the continents ( possibility to form ice caps at the poles) and the power of the sun which increases by 1% per 100 million years.
I’m sure he knows that, but he is paid to say there is no correlation !
If the earth was not an ice ball 500 million years ago or more despite a much colder sun, this is because there was 10 or 20 times more co2.
The couple of times when earth almost turned entirely into an ice ball it was because co2 dropped too low and could not balance a weak sun.
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 He didn't sell out and he isn't lying. He didn't just "work for" Greenpeace, you knucklehead, he was a founding member and an icon of true environmental activism. Not the same as "working for" and not the same as Greta T. or voidisyinyang political activism and virtue signaling related to a fantasy climate crisis story. Get a grip.
Great content! Thank you!
You know you're going to get real-deal when YT puts the UNs climate ideology seal of approval in the video description 😆
Give the world a break. All videos about climate have it. Pros and Cons.
The "seal of approval" is on pretty firm footing. In 2021, Cornell University surveyed the over 88000 climate studies published from 2012-2020 and tallied a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's climate change. Even Exxon's own scientists in leaked memos have acknowledged that combusted fossil fuels are warming the planet to a damaging degree.
The content is pure garbage. Sponsored by the most polluting industries.
I've learned so much watching this video. So nice to hear facts and learning about the total fallacies of the climate grifters! Thanks Dr Moore, and keep teaching us.
I made it easy for you :
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The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
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The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
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The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
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His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain.
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glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
What about the obsession regarding electric cars and the significant hazards of the lithium batteries used as their source of power? Lithium fires are escalating and emit highly toxic smoke, gasses, fumes, and particulates.
ICE cars burst into flames far more often than EVs do. Data from the National Transportation Safety Board shows that EVs are involved in approximately 25 fires for every 100,000 sold. Comparatively, approximately 1,530 gasoline-powered vehicles and 3,475 hybrid vehicles are involved in fires for every 100,000 sold. Other studies from Europe agree with the NTSB's findings.
When you calculated the environmental damages EV batteries cause, did you compare them to the damage caused by drilling, mining, fracking, methane burn-offs, oil spills, fires, explosions, the transporting of oil over thousands of miles of pipeline and via tens of thousands of tanker trucks and trains, the sprawling refineries and the dangerous benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, and xylene they spew; the oil pits that kill more birds than wind turbines, the hydrogen sulfide, benzene, naphthalene and C02 produced when oil is burned, the carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides, particulate matter, unburned hydrocarbons and C02 when gasoline is burned? Did you calculate the cost of accelerating sea level rise, from the melting of ice sheets, caused by the C02-driven warming? How about the increase in category 4 and 5 hurricanes? The extreme precipitation events? The increase in droughts and wildfires?
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 That is not actually if you base it on the percentage of both. But then again that is how you create a narrative
@@johnpaull135 They did base it on the percentage of both, my friend. What part of FOR EVERY 100,000 SOLD did you not understand?
for where did they base that. I have seen other sources that don’t agree so as I first said it depends on the Narrative they wish to push. Or which part of that did you not understand son @@swiftlytiltingplanet8481
Every plant needs CO2. The islands in the Indian Ocean are still above water. 25 years ago we were told they would go under in 10 years.
Sea level has risen four inches since 1993, and its rate of rise has doubled, according to NASA. As a result, the Maldives have lost 95% of their fresh drinking water resources, due specifically to salt water overwash and infiltration.
But no climate scientist ever said those islands would be underwater now. Some scientists predicted some of the islands would be submerged by 2100. The Maldives, in fact, spend half their national budget on climate change and holding back the rising tide. Most notable is their dredging of the sea floor to bring sediment to the beaches to build them up higher. Over fifty of the islands have reclaimed land from the ocean this way. Reclaiming land and delaying inundation for some future year does not mean sea level rise is nonexistent. Cities, towns and states all over the world are currently emptying their coffers to figure out ways to stop the tide from rising. New York and Louisiana, for example, already have a combined $100 billion in new flood mitigation projects in the works. Miami Beach has raised 105 miles of roads by two feet. In January, Maine suffered a record high tide that caused $100 million in damages. Odisha state in India reports losing no less than 16 coastal villages to the sea. This isn't in someone's imagination. It's really happening and will only get worse going forward.
"Every plant needs CO2." And? What climate scientist anywhere on the planet is calling for an end to CO2? NONE. NADA. ZILCH. Everyone all the way down to elementary school knows CO2 is good for plants, which is why there are no plans to eliminate it. We're unable to do that anyway.
It's important to remember that CO2 is only good for plants up to a point. We've passed that point, with plants only absorbing a fraction of our emissions now and leaving the rest to accumulate in the atmosphere.
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The dose is the poison. While CO2 helps plants grow more lush, the warming that accompanies rising CO2 cancels out those benefits by increasing crop-decimating heatwaves, droughts, extreme precipitation events and wildfires.
Rising CO2 also increases lushness by increasing sugar content and, in crops that we eat, diminishing zinc, iron and protein content, making them far less nutritious. It's not nearly as simple as fossil fuel industry propaganda would have us believe.
Check all of the places on the planets oceans that are coral, coral reefs at this moment are dead everywhere on the planet and half a billion humans have no way to live off them. These folx will move north! Nothing can stop the stampede off humans coming from south of equator in order to live and get away from burning.
Do not be delusional. This is not ideological it is real! And t is happening at the moment, we need to stop capitalism.
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Do u know anything that stays the same over long periods of time?
I dont
@@Dan-mm1yl That's a pretty lame answer, Dan. Your house is falling apart but why make repairs because, you know, "nothing stays the same?" Here is my response to that:
WE are causing the deleterious changes with our emissions. Those changes will cost the world trillions annually in damages going forward. We are in complete control of our emissions and therefore the damages that will accrue. All studies to date establish clearly that reducing our emissions and switching energy sources will be far cheaper than continously repairing climate change damage every year.
Why the defeatist attitude?
1966: oil gone in 10yrs
1967: dire famine forecast by 1975
1968: overpopulation will spread worldwide
1969: everyone will disappear in a cloud of blue steam by 1989
1970: the world will use up all its natural resources by 2000, urban citizens will require gas masks by 1985, nitrogen build-up will make all land unusable, decaying pollution will kill all the fish, killer bees, ice age by 2000 and America will be subject to water rationing by 1974 and food rationing by 1980
1971: new ice age coming by 2020 or 2030
1972: new ice age by 2070 and oil depleted in 20yrs
1974: space satellites show new ice age coming fast, ozone depletion and "Great peril to life"
1976: scientific consensus planet cooling and famines imminent
1977: department of energy says oil will peak in the 90s
1978: no end in sight to 30yr cooling trend
1980: acid rain kills life in lakes and peak oil in 2000
1988: regional droughts in the 90s, temperatures in DC will hit record highs and Maldives will be underwater by 2018
1989: rising sea levels will obliterate nations if nothing is done by 2000 and New York City's West Side Highway will be underwater by 2019
1996: peak oil in 2020
2000: children won't know what snow is
2002: famine in 10yrs if we don't give up eating meat, fish and dairy and peak oil in 2010
2004: Britain will be Siberia by 2024
2005: Manhattan will be underwater by 2015
2006: super hurricanes
2008: the Arctic will be ice free by 2018 and Climate Genius Al Gore predicts an ice free Arctic by 2013
2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles says we have 96 months to save the world, UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown says we have 50 days to "save the planet from catastrophe" and Climate Genius Al Gore moves his 2013 prediction of an ice free Arctic to 2014
2013: the Arctic will be ice free by 2015
2014: only 500 days before "Climate chaos"
2018 A top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels by 2023...Greta Doomberg.
2019: Hey Greta, we need you to convince them it's really going to happen this time
2020 Greta Thunderberg global warming will cause temperatues to rise to 80 degrees celsius and drown 80% of the population.
2024 Greta still alive.
2024 WEF
2024 8.2 billion people with only 3% of biomass in wild animals and every summer “the hottest on record.” Everything is just ducky.
Except everything you posted is false.
You're posting the narrative of a malthusiandeath cult.@@chesterfinecat7588
@@chesterfinecat7588feel free to personally unburden the earth with your existence. You people are immune to facts and reason that disagree with your righteous belief taken on faith not science.
All true, why am I still here.
@@chesterfinecat7588humans are only .01 of earth's total biomass with trees being largest at 84% and bacteria a distant second at 13%
Great that he helped stop the slaughter of baby seals. I wonder if he can raise the issue of the slaughter of baby humans? Maybe we'd show the same revulsion if we saw the reality of that little issue..
Stop nutenyahoo
Two million children die each year in poverty and you are fussing about abortion..? All you seem to wish to achieve for religious dogmatic reasons is to bring about more children to suffer into death so that you can feel good about yourself and your deluded convictions. Do something about poverty first; be useful and virtuous for a change.
Phenomenal talk from Dr Patrick Moore as usual, my dearest wish would be for it to be shown in every classroom in the world with resource material to back it up ,but not just for the students but more importantly the ( was going to use a bad word ) teacher's.
He's a sell-out - I worked for Greenpeace so I know global warming is real. But I don't get paid big bucks by big oil.
More Crap And Corruption From DR PATRICK MOORE
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
@@vhawk1951kl Globally Resolved Surface Temperatures Since The Last Glacial Maximum" Matthew B. Osman, Jessica E. Tierney, Jiang Zhu, Robert Tardif, Gregory J. Hakim, Jonathan King & Christopher J. Poulsen published November 10, 2021 Nature volume 599, pages 239-244 (2021) -----------
Analysis of global mean surface temperature (GMST) the last 24,000 years by combining several hundred previous published paleo analysis from all over Earth, took 7 scientists 7 years to do the work of combining hundreds of previous published paleo analysis and filling in the areas of Earth between the analyses using advanced statistical methods, and calculating the uncertainty in those statistical methods for the infill. "Climate changes across the last 24,000 years provide key insights into Earth system responses to external forcing. Climate model simulations and proxy data have independently allowed for study of this crucial interval; however, they have at times yielded disparate conclusions. Here, we leverage both types of information using paleoclimate data assimilation to produce the first observationally constrained, full-field reanalysis of surface temperature change spanning the Last Glacial Maximum to present. We demonstrate that temperature variability across the last 24 kyr was linked to two modes: radiative forcing from ice sheets and greenhouse gases; and a superposition of changes in thermohaline circulation and seasonal insolation. In contrast with previous proxy-based reconstructions our reanalysis results show that global mean temperatures warmed between the early and middle Holocene and were stable thereafter. When compared with recent temperature changes, our reanalysis indicates that both the rate and magnitude of modern observed warming are unprecedented relative to the changes of the last 24 kyr".
@@vhawk1951kl here ,here. The problem with climate models is that they are the quintessential run the flag up the flagpole example of garbage in garbage out, simply because no one, no individual, no collection of scientists no government or world body completely understand the climate, so climate models are always full of guessing. The religious aspect of climate zealots is also a big BIG problem as one of the major defining aspects of religion is there is no need for evidence just faith.
I agree that the use of chlorine has been a godsend in providing safe drinking water eradicating countless diseases and improving health in general but I don't think pharmaceutical drugs and their widespread overuse and contribution to our cronic disease epidemic is endearing to the benefits of chlorine.
His use of the chlorine idea is a false equivalence.
Thank you so much Patrick x
Fantastic program I agree 100,000% finally got somebody who knows what they’re talking about. Thank you be safe.
Did you fact-check everything Moore presented? You didn't, right? Does it stir the sligtest suspicion that Moore once headed the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by fossil fuel industry investors to promote the use of more gas and oil? Raise even a teensy weensy red flag?
He knows it so well that he can twist the facts and make you believe what he wants.
He’s not twisting the facts he’s telling like it is I know because I did this research myself and his research is correct. 1957 who’s fanatics were on TV showing the Black diesel smoke from the tractor trailers? Exhaust of the cars and they said we will have a Ice Age in 10 years. If we don’t stop using diesel fuel and gasoline you can do the math that was a little while ago. Be safe.
@@kennethcole1551 See FACT-CHECKING PATRICK MOORE, CLIMATE SCEPTIC. Not a single scientific institution anywhere on earth agrees with him that more CO2 would be good for us. NONE. NADA. ZILCH. Moore isnt a climate scientist, he's a greenwashing PR shill for polluting companies.
Moore is famous for his assertion that "over the Earth's history there's no consistent correlation between CO2 and temperature." He then shows a graph which looks pretty damned convincing.
The crime here is that no lay person questions his graph's validity and provenance. Or anything else he presents as Gospel.
They should.
He got the graph from coal mining engineer Monte Hieb, who isn't a climate scientist but a climate denier who fancied himself clever enough to plot out CO2 and temperature over millions of years. The graph he slapped together has NO scientific validity, despite its reproduction (thousands of times) across the internet and among star deniers like Moore.
Hieb based his graph on the work of a scientist (Chris Scotese) who was not an expert in paleo temperature reconstructions and whose ideas were long ago supplanted by better work based on actual physical proxy records.
The fact that Moore employs a graph constructed by an amateur (and a climate change denier at that) to fool his audience should tell you everything you need to know about his integrity.
Climate scientists regard the Monte Heib graph the same way they would regard their kindergartner's first attempt at "art." Unlike a child's first efforts, there is nothing funny or endearing about an amateur's attempt at deception and it certainly won't ever end up taped to their refrigerators. ;)
Unfortunately, Moore uses a similar lie of omission with his wildfire graph, which appears to show far more wildfires in the 1920s and 30s than today. What he fails to share with viewers is that his graph includes millions of acres of INTENTIONAL BURNS. Today's wildfire graphs do not include intentional burns. Morever, according to fire data historians, burn acreage in the early 20th century was counted by multiple government agencies and sometimes counted TWICE.
Moore also neglects to add critical context: Many fires in the early 20th cenury were simply left to burn out on their own because there were no access roads to reach them. Does he mention the speed traveled by horse-drawn fire carts vs. today's diesel fire trucks? The efficiency of today's powered hoses over hand-pumped hoses? The lack of early detection vs. today's super fast spotting by satellites?
Moore has stated that the evidence doesn't show that human activity is causing climate change. That flies in the face of Cornell University's 2021 survey of over 88000 climate studies, which found a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's warming. So who's right? The thousands of PhD-level climate scientists who make up the consensus or a non-climate scientist who is regularly paid by big industry to make them look good?
@@kennethcole1551 If you had really done any research yourself you would have known that the vast majority of scientific papers published in the science journals of the 60s and 70s warned of global WARMING, not an imminent Ice Age. Look up "MYTH OF THE 1970S GLOBAL COOLING SCIENTIFIC CONSENSUS in the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society, Vol 89, No. 9, Sept 2008, pp. 1325-1337 and see for yourself how the narrative has been twisted to mislead the public.
While Patrick Moore helped to stop the industrial whale fishing successfully, it should now focus on the smallest creatures: krill. Huge trawlers fish out krill by the millions of tons. Krill is at the beginning of the food chain, don't fish out krill, let it continue to be eaten by larger fish high in the food chain.
Krill depends on winter ice as a part of its lifecycle. Climate change is a massive threat to krill and thus the food chain.
@@dnboro can you explain this with some more details please? As this is not what Patrick Moore says. Krill feeds on vegetation and ice cover reduces the amount of light entering the water, so the grows of algies. Makes sense to me.
Come on ! krill is safe because as he says in this video "plastic is great for marine wild life" 😂
@@WiersmaMark Sorry Mark - didn't see this until now. The first winter in their lifecycle, Antarctic Krill are protected by Sea Ice whilst they eat on algae on the underside of the ice.
www.antarctica.gov.au/about-antarctica/animals/krill/
@@dnboro Did you listen to any of this lecture?
CO2 is not very important regarding climate. However it is very important for plants
#11:30:01 - ...and government ministers.
In US Washington State the Governor's carbon tax went to the General Fund to replenish the State Employee Pension Fund, they had stealthily looted from for free benefits and salary raise COLAs!😢
lPCC has long demanded a $2700-a-CO2-Tonne mitigation taxes. Translated from barrels of oil to tonnes CO2, they are *demanding a $25 a gallon 7€ a liter carbon tax at the pump!* These UK CA AU carbon taxes _are just the first ratchet up!_
Wrong
@@1lightheadedchemtrails are the real problem not co2.
CO2 is important for radical liberal project funding and delusions of global control
Perhaps it's not CO2 causing issues they talk about but something else they want us to ignore
Thank you
I worked as a nurse in Canada's beautiful North
Thank you!!!
I was in Vancouver at the time of this H bomb test @Amchitka, a historic moment for Greenpeace.
Britain is completely crazy for refusing to adopt the nuclear power option.
Britain has a new nuclear power station being built called Hinkley C. It is years behind schedule and costs have risen from £24 billion to £48 billion. The Tory govt had to sign an agreement to pay way over the price per kWh to stop the company building it from pulling out. It will be the world’s most expensive electric ever generated. Building more nuclear is not an option unless you want to pay massively for energy
@@normsky5504 Nuclear plant should not been financed by the private sector.
its a solution, leaders dont want solutions they want eternal problems. politicians best friend is a crisis.
But wind and solar can not provide enough power - nuclear power can, and if we want to reduce dependence on fossil fuels, then there must at least be some nuclear power.
And wind and solar are intermittent and unreliable, like when there is not enough wind or too much wind, the sun goes down at night and in cloudy countries the Sun does not even appear in the sky when the sky is fully cloudy and often when it is partly cloudy.
I can not see wind power supplying the energy needs of an entire huge city like New York, London or others, certainly not in sufficient quantities.
Didn’t work out well for Germany
"There are huge non climate effects of carbon dioxide which are overwhelmingly favorable which are not taken into account. To me that's the main issue that the earth is actually growing greener. This has been actually measured from satellites the whole earth is growing greener as a result of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. So it's increasing agricultural yields, it's increasing the forests, it's increasing all kinds of growth in the biological world and that's more important and more certain than the effects on climate." ~Freeman Dyson, Institute of Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey.
Apparently you haven't seen NASA's follow-up satellite survey, which found that most of the greening has been due to massive new tree plantings (billions) and intense agricultural turnover in China and India. See HUMAN ACTIVITY IN CHINA AND INDIA DOMINATES THE GREENING OF THE EARTH, at the NASA website.
Well that's terrific. Perhaps you could give the 50 or so million people who will be impacted by sea level rise the good news. Might want to also give the good news to all the species of plants and animals that will go extinct.
The planet loves CO2 we are in a carbon drought the planet is greener oceans are not rising but some people just need their far left communist Kool-Aid
@dnboro and when will this incredible rise happen. We've been waiting patiently for 50+ years.
@@miked5106 Sea level has risen four inches since 1993, and its rate of rise has DOUBLED, according to NASA. (See NASA SEA LEVEL) According to NOAA, high tide flooding along the American south and Gulf coasts has increased an astonishing 400% and 1100% since the year 2000. (See NOAA HIGH TIDE FLOODING). Louisiana has already lost over 8800 acres to permanent inundation in its Lower Breton Sound area, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. It's why that state has a new $50 billion-dollar flood mitigation project in the works. So does New York, with its borough of Queens flooding on a regular basis. In January, Maine suffered a record high tide that caused $100 milion in damages. Annapolis is closing its City Dock neighborhood 60 times a year due to regular inundation. Miami Beach has been forced to raise 105 miles of roads by two feet.
Globally, Odisha State in India reports losing no less than 16 coastal villages to flooding. The Maldives have lost 95% of their fresh drinking water resources to salt water overwash and infiltration and are spending half of their national budget on sea level rise mitigation. That includes the dredging of the sea floor to build up sinking beaches with new sediment on fifty of its islands.
Patrick Moore, by the way, is a greenwashing, PR spokesman for the very polluting industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight. He is not a climate scientist, and he is profoundly debunked by those who are climate scientists. He is the former head of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by fossil fuel industry investors to promote the use of more gas and oil.
While total crop yields have been increasing in the past 50 years due to agricultural improvements, climate change is decreasing the rate of yield growth. Fisheries have been negatively affected in multiple regions. Agricultural productivity has been positively affected in some high-latitude areas, while mid- and low-latitude areas have been negatively affected. With 2 °C warming, less animal feed will be available by 2050. If the emissions continue to increase for the rest of the century, then over 9 million climate-related deaths would occur annually by 2100 on top of the annual 8.8 million deaths from the byproducts of fossil fuels. In the industrialized nations, 1.7 children per household or less has become the norm. It takes 2.1 children per household to maintain a population. This is one way to enforce population decline.
Listen and learn from this important lecture, thank you Patrick!
Moore is a liar. For years he has been saying there is no relation between co2 and temperature over the last 500 million years.
But there is a relation between co2 and temperature if 2 other parameters are taken into account : the shape and distribution of the continents ( possibility to form ice caps at the poles) and the power of the sun which increases by 1% per 100 million years.
I’m sure he knows that, but he is paid to say there is no correlation !
If the earth was not an ice ball 500 million years ago or more despite a much colder sun, this is because there was 10 or 20 times more co2.
The couple of times when earth almost turned entirely into an ice ball it was because co2 dropped too low and could not balance a weak sun.
Yes it's interesting how disinformation is propagated.
Truly critical thinking at its best,just join the dots ,what a fantastic planet..
Patrick Moore isn't a climate scientist. He's a greenwashing PR shill for big industry. He's the former head of the CO2 Coalition, for example, which received millions from the oil industry to promote the use of more gas and oil. Not a single scientific institution anywhere on earth agrees with him that today's climate change is natural and good for us. Exactly the opposite. So we can trust the 99.9% consensus of publishing scientists who actually work in the field or we can trust a man who gets paid big bucks to make industry look good. What do you think?
Truly critical lies and ignorance.
Moore is indeed a liar. For years he has been saying there is no relation between co2 and temperature over the last 500 million years.
But there is a relation between co2 and temperature if 2 other parameters are taken into account : the shape and distribution of the continents ( possibility to form ice caps at the poles) and the power of the sun which increases by 1% per 100 million years.
I’m sure he knows that, but he is paid to say there is no correlation !
If the earth was not an ice ball 500 million years ago or more despite a much colder sun, this is because there was 10 or 20 times more co2.
The couple of times when earth almost turned entirely into an ice ball it was because co2 dropped too low and could not balance a weak sun.
Nope. Truly misrepresenting science on behalf of corporate interests. He's not just an idiot... he's intentionally misleading for money. A scumbag.
I presume you're being sarcastic.
"plastic is great for marine wild life" ...😂
Should I mention the weed killer incident ?
9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers.
Moore shows the evolution of global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation"
To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead.
It is indeed quite ironic that for once deniers do not mention the sun.
The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years.
Then Moore does not mention that over 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled.
The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps.
Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not really forget, he chooses to keep these facts hidden. Talking about them would kill his narrative.
There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
You're a good man, Patrick Moore.
It helps his image if you don't know him well. Moore is a greenwashing, PR spokesman for polluting industries, paid to make them look good even when they do bad things. His former position at Greenpeace gives him priceless credibility, even though he works for the very industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight.
So good to the polluting industries!
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I think he's saying, it's impossible to debunk brain washing. Once smart people are fooled, they become trapped in the Overton Window for the group they livet in. There's a near insurmountable 'wall' between AGW skeptics and believers. Truth is, there's no 'proof' CO2 released by man has a significant effect on climate. Climate Change 'science' assumes AGW is true, and its believers focus on proving skeptics wrong, NOT understanding their arguments, which makes it impossible to include them in models. The predictions of various climate models looks like a fan, and they all require constant adjustments to track climate data as it accumulates. That doesn’t sound ‘settled’ in any way shape or form.
The assumption that green energy causes no or minimal environmental damage is naive. Referring to the space under windmills as bird cemeteries, highlights this point. And it's a no brainer that covering large areas with solar panels will have harmful effects, as will 150db shock waves from pounding in windmill farms. Environmental Science is extremely complex. denigrating and excluding skeptics is destructive and guarantees faulty conclusions.
With a straight face this guy tries to convince you that plastic in the ocean is "the opposite of toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife.
"We wrap our food in it" ...
- What percentage of plastic is rated "food safe" ? Shampoo bottle ? Packaging plastic ? Styrofoam ? Industrial purpose plastic ? FIsh nets are food save ? PVC, nylon, acrylic
- All these plastics degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction ... they turn into micro plastics, they release contaminants, toxic molecules and all of it enter the food chain.
But with a straight face ... What a sad joke.
Well done Dr. Moore for pointing out that nuclear power is the safest answer to our energy problems. Compared with coal-mining, it has killed a negligible number of people, and could meet our entire base-load demand if politicians bit the bullet and were willing to make long-term investments.
"Well done Dr. Moore for pointing out that nuclear power is the safest answer to our energy problems." But that's not true. We are heading toward worsening ecological and societal collapse, and the last thing we want when many societies and their power supplies collapse are hundreds of operating nuclear stations that will then head into meltdown.
Since Australia has the largest uranium deposits, they should build all the nuclear plants there, then use super lasers to bounce power off the moon, into gigantic lithium battery banks powering enormous compressed air turbines to supply base load grid power to the massive AI blade warehouses, burning TW's of power chasing the last BTC in existence.
*The point being this is NOT a technological issue, it's a economic perpetual war issue.*
Good job for pointing out plastics in the oceans are beneficial to marine wildlife 😂
Good job with the manipulated temperature graphs 😂
@@AmericatheBeautiful-p4z I assume you are joking Robert. The mining, manufacture, transport, installation, use, and disposal of all the things you just mentioned would just accelerate ecological and societal breakdown. You're just ramping up entropy on Earth faster and faster. So yes, it IS a technological issue: By definition, only a much lower-tech civilization using more natural materials and manual labor is sustainable.
The catastrophe with GMO's is called Glyphosate, which is a systemic herbicide which has been shown to result in Non-Hoskins Lymphoma for high exposures (farmers) and Parkinson's disease potential for low exposure people.
#11:30:01 - The catastrophe with GMOs is in bT toxin gene spliced corn (maize), which is designed to kill insects by dissolving their guts. The same toxic bT gene kills small animals and birds. _There was no 'bird flu' until US Agra began dumping surplus bT corn as poultry feed!_
Today bT corn in our chips and pet kibble results in spiraling gastro-intestinal immuno- deficiencies and all-too-early deaths for our pets.
If you enjoy using corn meal, look for Mexican products. Mexico has banned bT corn to stop dumping, although Trump tariff extortion may force Mexico to end the GMO ban, (the way US coup in Ukraine may force Russia to end their own ban on GMOs.)
*We can start by buying only free-range non-GMO feed eggs.* You will love them!
@@AmericatheBeautiful-p4z Robert, I'm very glad to have stumbled on an area where we agree! Be well.
Glyphosate is more destructive than u mention -- repeated applications on the same farmland slowly turns soil into dust .. chelating the minerals that plants would otherwise be absorbing. Let alone that its secondary effects of finding its way into water runoff and biofuel burnoff means we are indirectly ingesting a compound that our body is fooled into thinking it is the most basic of amines .. resulting in misfolded proteins being made by our metabolism.
It,s the use of glyphosphate on crops that,s the issue. The crops are GMO modified to resist that herbicide. The glyphosate is not genetically modified. It,s a chemical. It,s use is carcinogenic.
I absolutely enjoyed Dr. Moore's presentation. I'd like to hear him speak about the myth of so-called fossil fuels. We know that oil is created the earth's chemical processes (see The Deep Hot Biosphere: The Myth Of Fossil Fuels by the late Dr. Thomas Gold.)
Maybe you should vary your sources .
Actually Moore made an extremely biased presentation.
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The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
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The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
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The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
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His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain.
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glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
There is no "myth" behind fossil fuels. All fossil fuels contain biomarkers, proving they sprung from living organisms. Abiotic oil is rare on earth and is not the oil we're combusting into the atmosphere today.
Climatologist, Dr. Patrick Moore, Founder of Greenpeace is an environmental legend. He should win a Nobel
He is not a climatologist, nor is he the founder of Greenpeace.
😂😂😂😂
As soon as he drinks a quart of glyphosate! 😂
Too true….the man is a climate denier for his own benefit.
He is 1 level above Al Gore. But it doesn't matter to the climate change cult followers like you, as long they support the climate Dogma, they are all climatogists @ErikGauger
Love seeing these talks that show actual data, and Dr. Patrick Moore is one of the best at showing it and summarizing it for us. Great job!
What particular "actual data" impressed you most?
@@Tengooda all of it.
@@barleyarrish Which is the sort of answer that someone who hasn't understood anything, but doesn't want to expose his ignorance, would make.
@@Tengooda Sorry about that, but if personal attacks on people you disagree with is the best you can do, then take up
a political cause that you are more conversant with.
Cite the data that refutes the scientific consensus on climate change. Moore isn't a climate scientist and does not work in the field. He's a greenwashing PR spokesman for big industry, paid to make polluters look good.
Humanity may have unwittingly prevented the imminent onset of a new ice age
That's fossil fuel industry propaganda, promulgated by Patrick Moore, who is the former director of the CO2 Coalition, long funded by energy industry investors to promote the use of more gas and oil. The next major reglaciation wasn't due for tens of thousands of years. A new Ice Age has never been "imminent."
A new glaciation. We are currently in an ice age.
glacial period , not ice age.
ANd no, the next glacial period is not expected before ~40000 years according to Milankovitch cycles.
I've noticed that AI is already geared towards the 97% applesauce consensus. It's refreshing to listen to a real person talking sense.
That "real" person is a greenwashing spokesman for polluting industries, not a climate scientist, and not a single scientific institution anywhere on earth agrees with him.
Would love a chat on micro-plastics in our food chain...
Exactly, that’s my biggest gripe is the consumption of plastic by all creatures
Just this shows on what side he is.
Dr Moore knows Real science.
Obviously he does. How else would he know to say the exact opposite of it.
😂 Moore
@@CC3GROUNDZERO You don't know what you are talking about. Climate Change activism is a fantasy pseudoscience based upon imaginary numbers in fictional datasets fabricated by the activists; i.e. an imaginary delusion.
@@philippesarrazin2752 Your 😂 response . Moronic . 💥
If you guys are simple minded enough to gobble up Moore 's lies and idiotic talsk
"Plastic is great for marine wildlife"
weedkiller incident "Roundup/glyphosate is so harmless I could drink a glass of it"
Moore understood a long time ago it is more lucrative to protect the polluters than to protect the environment.
9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers.
Moore shows the evolution of the global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation"
To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead.
It is indeed quite ironic that for once the deniers do not mention the sun.
The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years.
Then Moore does not mention that other 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled.
The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps.
Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not forget. Talking about them would kill his narrative.
There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
Pytanie jest czy wzrost stężenia co2 powoduje wzrost temperatury czy też odwrotnie, wzrost temperatury powoduje wzrost stężenia co2.
Dr Patrick Moore, You are a great man.. I am old enough to remember your efforts and successes. THANK YOU! CO2 / Oxygen are symbiotic each working withe the other.. We breath out CO2. Vegitation takes that in.. Gives off Oxygen The very cause of life cycles of both. ???
@@MrTryReasoning well currently, the more co2 the less oxygen.
Agree on Co2 what can be done around the air quality from burning petrol and diesel vehicle? Are Cars/Trucks getting greener?
They have been for decades
Thank you Patrick for speaking the truth, the Vostok records agree 😁, I'm now laughed at as a Climate change denier , I remember being a global warming denier 😅, please keep the faith 💪, and the truth that scientific fact will overcome politics 🙏👍
Well actually :
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The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
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The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
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The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
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His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain.
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glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
But i guess you prefer to keep your faith.
Confused on Garbage patch, as there is a ship out there cleaning it up? I think he underplays the damage of plastics.
When 'cleaning it' what do you mean; just scooping it up to put it somewhere else ?
@@linmal2242 Efforts to clean the Great Pacific Garbage Patch are spearheaded by organizations like The Ocean Cleanup, which deploys advanced systems to capture plastic waste. Their technology includes massive U-shaped barriers that drift with ocean currents, funneling plastic into a collection zone for removal. Since 2021, they’ve removed thousands of tons of plastic, targeting large debris like fishing nets and consumer waste before it breaks into microplastics. Complementing these efforts are advocacy campaigns promoting reduced plastic use, improved waste management, and increased recycling worldwide. While cleanup technologies are promising, experts agree that preventing plastic pollution at its source is critical to addressing the problem sustainably. Once plastic waste is removed from the Great Pacific Garbage Patch, these organizations transport it to shore for proper handling. The collected debris is sorted and recycled whenever possible to create new products, such as sunglasses and other consumer goods, helping fund cleanup efforts and raise awareness. Non-recyclable plastics are disposed of through methods like incineration with energy recovery, though this is used sparingly to minimize environmental impact. The ultimate goal is to ensure that the collected plastic does not return to the ocean or contribute to land pollution, while also advocating for systemic changes to reduce plastic production and waste.
@@abbsidaleppo8707 He underplays… He blatantly lies about it.
Cement. Print your new house from cement.
Thereby releasing much carbon into the atmosphere
One day this guy will be telling us he staged a bear cub accident in Stanley park. He sounds like RFK.
A lot of mining companies ran blast drill on electricity, deiel electric haul truck, use tram lines on haul road and all shovel (rope and hydraulic) also run on electricity.
AHH NO CARBON! NO LIFE DeAD PLANET PERIOD!
As if PhD-level climate scientists are unaware and ignoring this fact.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 not in their interest, no grant, no house, no lifestyle...
@@barleyarrish Oil industry CEOs make a hundred times the yearly salary that climate scientists do. Those CEOs also fund nearly 100 climate change-denial front groups, think tanks and websites, according to investigations by Drexel University. Patrick Moore himself is a former head of the CO2 Coalition, which has taken millions from the fossil fuel industry to promote the use of more gas and oil. Moore is not a climate scientist. He's a greenwashing shill for big industry and has been for decades.
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
It's probably best not to abuse capital letters because if you do, not only do you emphasis nothing but you declare to all the world that you are an hysterical raving lunatic. Is that what you want to do?
@@vhawk1951kl There is no "global temperature," but there is a clear global temperature trend, with each decade warming more than the previous one. So, no "collapse" of the science here.
That warming trend is, according to NASA gravimeters, melting the icecaps at a rapid pace, which in turn is raising absolute sea level (up four inches since 1993 with a doubling of its rate of rise. See NASA SEA LEVEL RISE). According to NOAA, high tide flooding has risen an astonishing 400% and 1100% respectively along the U.S. southern and Gulf coasts. (See NOAA HIGH TIDE FLOODING).
Maine is uplifting land from glacial rebound yet last January it suffered a record high tide that caused $100 million in damages. Louisiana has already lost over 8800 acres to permanent inundation in its Lower Breton Sound area, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. It's why that state has a $50 billion flood mitigation project in the works. So does New York, with the borough of Queens flooding on a regular basis. Annapolis closes the streets and businesses of one of its neighborhoods 60 times a year due to tidal overwash. Miami Beach has raised 105 miles of roads. Odisha State in India, meanwhile, reports that no less than 16 coastal villages have been lost to the rising tide.
Pretty clear indications of a warming planet, my friend. So is the tripling of heatwaves the EPA says has happened since the 1960s. Marine heatwaves are up 20-fold, according to the University of Bern. Wildfire seasons have expanded by over a month, according to the U.S. Forest Service. Atlantic hurricanes have intensified 8% per decade for the last four decades, according to NOAA. A Taiwanese study of typhoons shows the same intensification. EPA stats show that extreme precipitation events are increasing around the world. So are drought intensity and drought urations, according to the IPCC.
All pretty clear indications of a warming world unless you're deliberately trying not to see them.
Dr. Moore. Regarding your presentation at around the 26 minute mark where you stated: ''They always show the picture in the bottom right when they show you arctic ice". I don't know who 'they' are, but I know that satellite data since the 1990's has been compiled, and is easily accessed with a 2 minute google search. These data clearly show, with periodic time lapses, how much ice has been lost to this day and it is substantial! It was at this point in your video that I clicked away.
How significant was industrial output in the Carboniferous period?
@@youtubeyoutube936 It doesn't matter that the Earth has been warmer in the past due to natural climate drivers because this time around, we know that our emissions caused ~98% of all warming since 1900, we are currently warming the planet ~20 times faster than it usually warms when coming out of an ice age, and such rapid warming and increased in CO2 levels cause the whole web of life to unravel. The science of this is much scarier than most people realize.
That same satellite research, extended out further back to 1980s found 98%+ correlation between *solar activity, global cloud cover and (real) surface temperatures.* There was no signal found correlating to linear increase in CO2, which we already KNEW does not exist.
The report came just before the CLIMATE BOILING! and $1,400,000,000,000 'Reparations' ransom attempts at COP29. A PYRAMID of Scope 3 ESG Materiality Assessment audits and digital auto-deduct Carbon Taxes was set in place, offshored to In'dian IT processors.
We won't be the First Peoples to be forced to pay a criminal tax we know to be a fraud! What's truly tragic though, our CHILDREN will not know, *as the IPCC CARBON VATICAN grows and metastasizes into a New Dark Ages of 10,000 Years of energy austerity.*
"Carboniferous period?"
The period starts with 4000ppm and 25 degrees C global temperature 360 million years ago
Carbon sequestration over the next 60 million years by coal and oil formation plus rock weathering bring co2 down to 500ppm and the temperature to about 10C.
20 million years after the end of the carbiniferous period th eSiberian traps bring co2 back to 4000ppm and the temperature skyrockets to 30+ degrees.
@@AmericatheBeautiful-p4z Please what is the name of the report ?
Solar activity has been declining as a trend for 60 years. So your statement is hard to believe.
By the way ... nobody ever suggested a linear correlation.
How do we get more sensible thinkers into the world like you Dr
Just ask the most polluting industries to spend more on PR.
I really hope more people are waking up to this government pushed nonsense
It's not the government. It's overwhelming scientific evidence. Eleven separate studies confirm the scientific consensus on climate change. Look them up by lead author on Google Scholar: Oreskes, 2004; Doran, 2009; Anderegg, 2010; Cook, 2013; Verheggan, 2014; Stenhouse, 2014; Carlton, 2015; Consensus on Consensus (multiple); 2016; Powell, 2018; Myers, 2020; Lynas/Houlton, 2021.
In 2021, Cornell University surveyed the over 88000 climate studies published from 2012-2020 and tallied a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's climate change. Even Exxon's own scientists in leaked memos have acknowledged that combusted fossil fuels are warming the planet to a damaging degree.
Over 80 academies of science and every scientific institution on earth, from NASA to NOAA to the World Meteorological Organization to the over 50,000 physicists in the American Physical Society publicly endorse the consensus position, which is precisely why every nation on earth is a card-carrying member of the IPCC.
So it's 99.9% of publishing climate scientists and every scientific institution on earth vs. a greenwashing PR spokesman hired to make businesses look good. Who is more likely to be right?
Excellent presentation!
I made it easy for you :
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The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
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The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
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The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
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His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain.
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glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
Well, all of this presentation feels so good, and is factually correct as far as it goes, but leaves out some very important facts. One, sea level follows the same curves. Sea level 3 million years ago was nearly 9 meters higher with our current CO2 levels. And it is now rising over 4 mm per year, in fact every decade you can expect another mm per year increase. Two, heat waves, forest fires and storms are gutting the insurance and global transport industries. California, Texas and Florida insurance markets are especially affected. Three, Ocean temperatures are increasing fast. Ocean currents circulate warmer Ocean water under ice sheets and glaciers, melting them from underneath. Four, aquifers worldwide are being over utilized, and eventually will fail to deliver water for crops. So, by all means, dazzle us with earths ancient history. Just don't ignore the inconvenient facts about what else was going on, while you attempt to exonerate human failures and ignorance. The sea level will not stop rising until there is ocean atmosphere equilibration. Heat waves and fires will not stop until the jet stream flows normally, without omega blocks. As for ice sheets and aquifers .. Well, no one wants to starve, right?
Have you checked the number of forest and wildfires in data from the 1930s. I think you’ll find they were much more prevalent then than now.
Tipping Point is the Climate equivalent of Evangelical Signs & Tribulations. In fact the Climate Cult Revelations mirror all of the previous four fundamentalist hysterias 'The Sky God is Angry! Send Tïthes to UN lPCC Bishopry!
Latest satellite records research shows 99% correlation between global cloud cover, solar cycle intensity and surface temperatures. _CO2 and methane impact are not detectable_ Cloud cover is in long-term decline from solar activity (and galatic location) cosmic rays that trigger cloud formation. That's what's driving change in weather.
ALL WE CAN DO THEN IS PREPARE BY INCREASING CO2 AND BY PLANTING MORE COVER CROPS AND *BY PREVENTING UN BRUSSELS DICTATORSHIP AND BRUTAL CARBON TITHES.*
You have been brain washed with bullshit
The earth is not 3 million years old
9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers.
Moore shows the evolution of the global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation"
To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead.
It is indeed quite ironic that for once the deniers do not mention the sun.
The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years.
Then Moore does not mention that other 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled.
The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps.
Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not forget. Talking about them would kill his narrative.
There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents drifting/locations.
At about 13:00 you say "180'000 ppm". Should be "180 ppm"
Listen to this man.
Please don't. Moore has stated that the evidence doesn't show that human activity is causing climate change. That flies in the face of Cornell University's 2021 survey of over 88000 climate studies, which found a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's warming. So who's right? The thousands of PhD-level climate scientists who make up the consensus or a non-climate scientist who is regularly paid by big industry to make them look good?
exactly
Ignore this man.
What a clown !
9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers.
Moore shows the evolution of the global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation"
To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead.
It is indeed quite ironic that for once the deniers do not mention the sun.
The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years.
Then Moore does not mention that other 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled.
The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps.
Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not forget. Talking about them would kill his narrative.
There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
It's good to actually hear the truth and see the big picture.
Truth …😂
Moore isn't a climate scientist. He's the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by fossil fuel industry investors to promote the use of more gas and oil. Not a single scientific institution anywhere on the planet agrees with him that "more CO2 would be good for us."
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 All it takes is common sense to know C02 is not a Pollutant nor is it a control knob for temperature or climate. Why anyone allows themselves to be brainwashed to believe up is down is beyond me. Common sense shows you more C02 means More Green & its the reason plant growers introduce extra C02 when growing.
@@wandameadows5736 In 2007 the U.S. Supreme Curt officially ruled that CO2 is indeed a "pollutant." That's because in EXCESS it causes warming that melts the icecaps, raises sea levels, intensifies hurricanes, expands wildfire seasons, and increases heatwaves, marine heatwaves, extreme precipitation events, droughts, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases.
CO2-driven warming accelerates evaporation, which fills the air with increased water vapor which then works synergistically with CO2 in a feedback loop to warm the planet further. Water vapor is not the control knob of the climate because it rains out an average of every 9 days, leaving huge holes in the atmosphere. CO2, by contrast, is a climate forcing, not a feedback effect, with molecules that remain in circulation for centuries.
Here in the U.K., we have the Drax Power-Station. That burns ‘biomass’ which is deemed to be OK. Yet that is wood. Which comes over from Canada by ship. Ludicrous, when we in the U.K. have millions of tons of coal underground
Some reason people want to believe in disasters that will destroy them? Yes I wonder that myself. Only thing I can work out that people are so dissatisfied about their lives that they look for a external solution to end the misery.
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
religion tends to stupefy.
@@vhawk1951kl Science much?
Beati pauperes spiritu. May God forgive you your stupidity. 🙏
I think you need to look up the words average and mean in a dictionary.
"The constant downward trend of CO2". Wow. He totally ignored the recent stable period, shown on his own graph, encompassing the entire pleistocene period into the holocene, during which HUMAN civilization has been able to flourish. You might want to stop and think about that because modern human beings don't have the same climate needs as dinosaurs or giant insects.
Patrick Moore is a convincing, but wrong. I’m not sure what flipped in his thinking.
Well said.
I don't get your point ... You're saying that the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere is appropriate to sustain life on Earth, it seems... Well, isn't that a given?
And that's not how you identify a trend. ... Climate Alarmists are allowed to ignore segments of graphs, but that's not what is going on - the graph clearly shows CO2 diminishing over time - it, as you observed, plateaued during that period - the graph doesn't show CO2 rising above previous levels - it displays the downward trend you are trying to ignore.
@@jungleb77 nobody is 100% correct all the time, but cherry picking one (and it wasnt a very good one as per the response above) item to justify your thinking is deeply flawed, sort a like a climate hysterist.....Hes right on damn near everything he stands for and states, as much as climate fearmongers are wrong in everything they stand for and state
@@SchantaKlaus his point is that CO2 has been higher in the past, but during periods when life was much worse for humans or there were no humans at all. During the entire time that humans weren’t hiding from sabertooth tigers and dying all the time, CO2 has been stable and lower than it is today. CO2 is clearly increasing sure to industrial activity, it’s not magically going to decrease.
Doc! Did evolution stand still? Are the genomes and adaptations of organisms today the same as those 150 million yrs ago? What's wrong with you?
@32:00 Dont they fish in basically the same areas? Why not anchor barges where nets can be discarded and picked up later?
Can people who are predicting the end of the world at least suggest what can be done about it? One thing that can NOT be done is to return to a lifestyle of the past before the industrial revolution. For decades people have predicted the end of the world is imminent but the actual measures to prevent such an apocalypse have never occurred - after all emissions continue to rise after decades of being told to cut them and there is no sign at all this will change any time soon. I am just fed up of being told catastrophe is just around the corner when nothing has really been done to prevent such a catastrophe.
Maybe the best thing to do is to do what I have done and not have children. There is no hope at all of solving the problems that beset the world, the climate is only one of many civilization ending threats, without human nature changing and that will never happen.
No consensus of mainstream climate scientists has ever predicted the end of the world from climate change. Nor do any of us have to return to the low-tech life before the Industrial Revolution. We only need to switch energy sources. Nothing else need change, including population. The world is slowly converting to those new energy sources. Surely you've noticed the solar farms and wind turbines going up everywhere. The best thing we can do to speed up the process is to vote out obstructing politicians who are in the back pocket of the oil industry. They have slowed our progress more than any other impediment.
All he has to say about GMO is
"Where's the poison?"
Are you EFFING kidding me!!???
🐠y, VEEEERY 🐠y.
That is the one area where l think he misspoke
As mr. Pike famously said; “Whenever the people need a hero we shall supply him.” The same goes for the villains on the world stage so, to put this man in perspective; the role he plays now is of a sort of hero for the people awake to the climate scam. It is a way to earn trust so they can use him to push the wrong idea on different topics. You'd probably find he was very much pro experimental injection or he defends hormone blockers for teens (I am just making up examples, I have not looked into it). The media is full of these fake heroes/villains, to name a few; Russell Brand, Alex Jones, Naom Chomsky or Joe Rogan. The list is long, I am trying to keep this comment short (if they'll even allow it to remain here).
The one area ?
So you agree when he says "plastic is great for marine wild life" ?
And also :
9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers.
Moore shows the evolution of global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation"
To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead.
It is indeed quite ironic that for once deniers do not mention the sun.
The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years.
Then Moore does not mention that over 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled.
The shapes and locations of the oceans are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps.
Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not really forget, he chooses to keep these facts hidden. Talking about them would kill his narrative.
There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
"Plastic is great for marine wildlife"
Moore serves his masters well.
It has been studied quite thoroughly...
But the real issue is that all attendees at the COP meetings know how bad plastics are - yet they have allowed increasing use of them when natural alternatives exist and are readily available.
They ones telling us to feel guilty are the ones who do not lead by example - the rules for Thee and not for me approach tells me all I need to know.
"yet they have allowed increasing use of them when natural alternatives exist and are readily available. "
It just shows lobbies are powerful.
"when natural alternatives exist and are readily available"
At the same scale ? Or would it be scalable ?
WHEN A SCIENTIST SAY SOMETHING HE MUST KNOW WHAT HE TALK ABOUT! THE,REAL FORCE FOR THIS SPEAK MUST BE WHO PAY HIM! /Mikael
Exactly what I thought who is paying him for this nonsense and he should have a debate with someone who knows the subject 😊
We will install cctv inside our leaders offices. Recording THEIR working hours.
They are the public servants. We are the boss here!
Thank yo so very much Mr Moore for all your insights and standing up to the dominant narratives! And for being how you are, pro life! ❤
Moore Pro life !!!
I made it easy for you :
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The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
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The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
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The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
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His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain.
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glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
@@ericvangrasdorff7411 pro plastic + pro glyphosate = pro life ??? 😂
If I say Monsanto is bad, does that mean I'm scared of gmos ? No. I understand science and human nature. Not everything is black or white. Great presentation overall.
Have you heard of High-albedo crops? Uni students are working on them. They will be paler to reflect back the sun!!!
So, a lack of green is a lack of chlorophyll - the chemical needed to process carbon dioxide and sunlight... If the plant can't do this then it can't produce energy. If we (or livestock) eat low energy foods we'll either have to consume more or we will become weak and sick.
@@philgowan6298 presentation of a lobbyist for the polluting industries.
His temperature graphs are misinformation.
You really think that plastic being degraded in the ocean by the UVs and sea salt is “the opposite of toxic” , ie beneficial to marine wildlife?
Weed killer incident ?
Still didn't drink his glyphosate... ^^
Ah well, maybe not everyone can be always right. Yeh, he's wrong about glyphosate and meansanto. And bayer
Yeah that was a dumb thing to say. Drinking a cup of glyphosate is not exactly like exposure due to its use on crops as a herbicide.
Moore works on behalf of the very industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight. He is, for example, the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by energy industry executives and conservative climate denial groups to promote the use of more gas and oil. Check their website and see for yourself.
Moore has also worked on behalf of the Nuclear Energy Institute, Asia Pulp and Paper (a logging firm), the CASEnergy Coalition, the Canadian Mining Association, the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada, Westcoast Energy and B.C. Gas, PVC manufacturer IPEX, and BHP Minerals.
Moore isn't a climate scientist. His degree is in forest ecology, but he is not a forest ecologist, he's a paid spokesman for industry.
Moore is famous for his assertion that "over the Earth's history there's no consistent correlation between CO2 and temperature." He then shows a graph which looks pretty damned convincing.
The crime here is that no lay person questions his graph's validity and provenance. Or anything else he presents as Gospel.
They should.
Coal mining engineer and climate denier Monte Heib took historical CO2 data and historical temperature data and slapped them together in a hand-drawn graph and assumed this was an accurate depiction of earth's climate history. It wasn’t. But deniers and skeptics have posted and re-posted his famous graph thousands of times across the internet. It has ZERO scientific validity, as you would expect from someone who doesn’t know what they’re doing.
The data he used was in time steps of ten million years, too long to determine correlations between CO2 and temps. (Climate scientists today use time steps of 500,000 years.) He also neglected to add the effects of a sun that increases its output as it evolves over hundreds of millions of years.
Climate scientists regard the Monte Heib graph the same way they would regard their kindergartner's first attempt at "art." Unlike a child's first efforts, there is nothing funny or endearing about an amateur's attempt at deception and it certainly won't ever end up taped to their refrigerators. ;)
Unfortunately, Moore uses a similar lie of omission with his wildfire graph, which appears to show far more wildfires in the 1920s and 30s than today. What he fails to share with viewers is that his graph includes millions of acres of INTENTIONAL BURNS. Today's wildfire graphs do not include intentional burns. Moreover, according to fire data historians, burn acreage in the early 20th century was counted by multiple government agencies and sometimes counted TWICE.
Moore also neglects to add critical context: Many fires in the early 20th cenury were simply left to burn out on their own because there were no access roads to reach them. Does he mention the speed traveled by horse-drawn fire carts vs. today's diesel fire trucks? The efficiency of today's powered hoses over hand-pumped hoses? The lack of early detection vs. today's super fast spotting by satellites?
Moore has stated that the evidence doesn't show that human activity is causing climate change. That flies in the face of Cornell University's 2021 survey of over 88000 climate studies, which found a 99.9% consensus that human activity, not nature, is driving today's warming. So who's right? The thousands of PhD-level climate scientists who make up the consensus or a non-climate scientist who is regularly paid by big industry to make them look good?
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 the four humours theory was the consensus of the medical profession for centuries (the idea that disease is caused by imbalances of the humours). Don't mistake consensus for fact.
@@Ethelred966 The consensus is based on the overwhelming evidence gleaned from the over 350,000 climate studies published in the last fifty years. By contrast, the "four humours" had no such data to support it, nor modern day PhD scholars, nor peer-reviewed studies, nor scores of scientific institutions. It was based merely on opinion and anecdote. The four humours were developed when people believed mice appeared spontaneously in piles of hay. Their science was infantile. You're drawing a false equivalency if there ever was one.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 so.... you are saying that ypu have read 350,000 climate studies? And that all of them supported your conclusions?
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 Good luck These people are clueless.
@Ethelred966 We are so deep into the multi-polar crisis, of which global heating is a symptom, there is no clear path forward out of our predicament, other than to not look (up).
Amazing how he can twist facts into lies.
I do a lot of plant, insect, and animal surveys; the latter being mostly of bats. Using bat detectors I venture out to detect where the bats are foraging after night flying insects. These detectors can be set to a vast kilohertz range, thus enabling me to hear what insects are calling. Much of the land I survey is farmland designated for building, and in these large fields (basically green deserts) there is not a sound of grasshoppers, crickets, or in fact ANY other vocal invertebrates. Similarly with the birds, not a sound!! These places are dead, except for the crop being sprayed to kill anything that may damage it.
Of course, this being the case there are NO BATS, and neither are there any ground inverts scuttling about. The only places where I detect bats now are woodlands or urban gardens where the owners tend their plants far more sensitively.
That's truly chilling but not surprising to me. Back in the 1960s we used to take long distance road trips to my grandparents' house. By the time we got there, the car's grill and windshield would be splattered with countless insects. Today on the same trip? NOTHING.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 Agreed. The first time I ran my girlfriend (now wife) to her home she asked if I was OK? The reason was that I was driving very slowly, and weaving all over the quiet country road. My explanation was that I was avoiding the hundreds of large moths flying in the headlights. That was in June 1983. I did the same run last year at the same time in the same weather (June) and saw just two moths!
@@grahamlong6870 The canaries in the coal mine.
This has nothing to do with CO 2 why you are seeing less bugs and other insects is because of the type of pesticide spraying that is going on and this is down to us the people want perfect looking products plus i have a shit load of insects on my screen when i drive ESP in the summer it looks like a map of hell and tring to remove them is a like going to war
@wellwhatthen10101 That's exactly what he said in his post.
Interglacial periods are better times.
Yeah! Warmer weather is better for everyone!
@@wheel-man5319 Unless you live in Phoenix, which last summer suffered through 31 straight days of above 110-degree temperatures. At 104 degrees photosynthesis breaks down, and many seeds won't even germinate. You can't farm in temperatures like that.
Or consider the Amazon. In 2015 it suffered a record drought that killed an estimated 2.5 billion plants and trees and millions of animals. It was supposed to be a once in a thousand year event. Yet last year it happened again, only worse, killing far more flora and fauna and igniting 26 million acres with out-of-control wildfires. Rain forests are normally to wet to burn. It's important to keep in mind that the Amazon supplies us with a substantial amount of our oxygen.
Then there are the 660 major cities that line the world's coasts. Sea level has risen four inches since 1993, and its rate of rise has doubled, according to NASA and the World Meteorological Organization. That in turn has increased high tide flooding all over the world. Louisiana and New York alone have already spent a combined $100 billion on new flood mitigation projects. Now multiply that by all the other vulnerable coastal areas that will have no choice but to empty their coffers to protect themselves from the rising tide.
Warmer weather has consequences, and while it may be better for some, it won't be better for all.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481Yawn... BTDT. Survived.
@@wheel-man5319 So you're okay with spending trillions of dollars annually to clean up the damage from climate change and sea level rise? Okay with insurance companies jumping ship and leaving entire states? Okay with massive premium hikes in vulnerable areas? (As long as it's not yours, right?)
@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 Yes. As it happens, if there's a real problem rather than a power grab by an already power mad elite, then it is a reasonable spend.
But I'm with Bjorn Lomberg on this. There are much better things to spend our money on since even the worst ipcc predictions don't really reach the point of being an existential threat.
Thank you Dr Moore for being a planetary defender 🌎
Was he a planetary defender when he headed the CO2 Coalition, which was funded by the oil industry to promote the use of more gas and oil?
@@Ethelred966 More CO2 equals more heat, which HURTS plants by increasing heatwaves, droughts, extreme precipitation events and droughts. See CLIMATE CHANGE CUT GLOBAL FARM PRODUCTIVITY 21% SINCE 1960S, a study by Cornell University in Science Daily, April 1, 2021. See also SEVERITY OF DROUGHT AND HEATWAVE CROP LOSSES TRIPLED OVER THE LAST FIVE DECADES IN EUROPE, in Environmental Research Letters, Jun 10, 2021.
Did Patrick Moore tell you what happened in the Amazon in 2015.? A massive drought killed an estimated 2.5 billion plants and trees and millions of animals. It was supposed to be a once in a thousand year event, yet in 2023 it happened again, only far worse, killing even more flora and fauna and setting ablaze 26 million acres with out-of-control wildfires. Rain forests are normally too wet to burn. Also to keep in mind: the Amazon supplies us with a substantial portion of our oxygen.
Moore isn't a climate scientist. He's a greenwashing PR spokesman for industry, including big oil when he headed the CO2 Coalition. Not a single scientific insititution on earth agrees with him that today's climate change is "natural" and "harmless" and that more CO2 would be "good for us." NONE. NADA. ZILCH. Give that some thought.
Moore earns his money because he performs his PR job well. He certainly persuaded you into believing him.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 more CO2, more plants.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 CO2 the Gas of Life, I'm afraid your Death Cult his lacking in both
Evidence and popularity, boo hoo
@@barleyarrish The "gas of life" is one of the fossil fuel industry's favorite propaganda memes. Just a little lie of omission that conveniently leaves out that rising CO2 causes the warming that melts the icecaps, raises sea levels, intensifies hurricanes, expands wildfire seasons, reduces farm productivity, and increases heatwaves, marine heatwaves, extreme precipitation events, droughts, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases. It leaves out the trillions of dollars climate change is costing us and the fleeing of insurance companies from vulnerable areas of the world.
Earth's Atmosphere? Nitrogen=78%; Oxygen=21%; Argon=0.9%...Methane,CO2,etc=0.1!
CO2 -.004% human generated CO2 3%
CO2 0.042%
man is responsible for ~3% of the flux, but 33% of the stock
Do you know what is the percentage of ozone, O3, in the stratosphere ?
The same ozone which blocks 99% of the most dangerous UVs ?
@@philippesarrazin2752 0.00006%, are we comparing Chalk and Cheese? The point of Illustrating that CO2 is a trace Gas and that most CO2 which is present in the Atmosphere is of Natural Origin shoud be
abundently clear. Also if one studies Climate one has to recognise CO2 Functionality in climate forcing, of course
climate alarmists poor luv's run a mile from hard evidence. Here is an interesting recent paper that might help you: scienceofclimatechange.org/wp-content/uploads/SCC-Ato-Multivariate-Analysis-Vol.4.2.pdf
Pointing to co2 being only 0.04% just demonstrate ignorance.
Ozone is only 0.001% and blocks 99% of the most dangerous UVs.
Physics shows CO2 is a GHG with significant radiative forcing at this concentration.
Anthropic CO2 in the atmosphere is today 33% of total CO2.
You left out the gas that t constitutes most of the atmospheric gasses, namely the wicked and sinful water vapour
Fantastic talk...🎉
A bunch of lies
Well actually :
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The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
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The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
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The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
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His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain.
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glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
@@philippesarrazin2752 NOBODY FACT-CHECKS. The ease with which someone like Moore wih a handful of official-looking graphs can hoodwink people is troubling, to say the least.
Funny how they never try support their original statement " Fantastic talk...🎉"
@@philippesarrazin2752 His presentations seems quite credible until we fact-check. They don't know what they don't know.
We're the carbon the want rid of, just remember that.
😂
Do you meant they spent billions of $ putting harmful stuff in DA BOGEY VIIRUS! vaccines, NEVER!
They paid for it themselves (get the joke?)
How sad to see Patrick mislead people. I urge people here to view other videos and read on the very real dangers of CO2 and methane. Patrick s not telling you the whole story and you owe it to yourself to get other views on climate change. As far as nuclear power goes, I agree with Patrick that can continue to make a valuable contribution to our energy needs. Good luck all. I'll be dead and gone but younger people here should consider---what if Patrick is wrong? This is somethng you REALLY can't afford to be wrong about, so it is worth your while to be really really sure about considering that virtually the entire scientific community views climate change as a growing threat to humanity.
Excellent. Always worth remembering Net Zero is insanity.
Are you misunderstanding net zero? Net zero means stopping our CO2 emissions from increasing the atmospheric accumulation any further. It doesn't mean elimination of all CO2 from the atmosphere. It means balancing the amount of our emissions by how much is absorbed.
Not only isnet zero insanity but al so it is completely and utterly futile. What is les than sane is the queer idea that the climate is something that can be fine tuned..
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
@@vhawk1951kl Please enlighten us as to why the icecaps are melting, sea level is rising, hurricanes are intensifying, wildfire seasons are expanding, and why heatwaves, marine heatwaves, extreme precipitation events, drought intensity, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases are increasing worlwide. Tell us why the glaciers are melting and global snowpack is diminishing. Tell us why the Amazon suffered a once in a thousand year record drought in 2015 and 8 years later suffered an even worse record drought that burned down 26 million acres with out of control wildfires.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481
None of what you allege is true nor have you verified any of it for yourself. You are as passive and credulous as a kinderlander or American.
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
Sorry mate, incorrect on all points. You are demonstrating Olympian gullibility.
CO2 decreased over millions of years because we no longer have the massive and long-term volcanic upheaval from the collision and break-up of continents. Sea-floor spreading itself has greatly slowed. (Down 38% from 19 million years ago.) Ocean chemistry changes have also played a role, specifically with a decrease in dissolved calcium, creating conditions where CO2 becomes more soluble in the oceans, reducing CO2 in the atmosphere.
It seems Coal powered electricity is essential to keeping our CO2 levels up to sustain life.
@@murraymcgregor7829 Not even remotely true. You've bought into Patrick Moore's fossil fuel industry propaganda, not science. With thousands of volcanoes and trillions of organisms spewing gigatons of CO2 every year there isn't the slightest chance that CO2 would ever drop down to levels low enough to hurt plants. For the 800,000 years leading up to the Industrial Revolution, in fact, CO2 never got above 300ppm and most of the time remained around 260ppm, and the world didnt end. This is a scare story from big oil, not reality. The ocean in fact is fast approaching a temperature that will push CO2 out into the atmosphere rather than absorb it. When that happens, the greenhouse effect will strengthen in earnest and we'll be in serious trouble, as even more CO2 will be entering the atmosphere.
@@murraymcgregor7829 Wow. The last time CO2 was as high as it is today, humans did not even exist. So why do we need more than we have ever had to sustain life. It seemed to be sustained for a very long time before the industrial revolution.
A decrease in calcium would mean an increase in CO2 only because the carbonate forming organisms are being starved out of the water column. If oceans are 'warming' (they're not) that would decrease CO2 solubility and then reduce 'acidification'. So which is it? If sun is warming the oceans that would be the source of increasing CO2 in the air. If oceans are cooling, that would increase acidification. The whole Climate Change BIöb is replete with these physical conflicts, so they Tipping Point! and run away.
@@AmericatheBeautiful-p4z There is no conflicting information. You're simply misinformed. The oceans today are a net ABSORBER of CO2, not net EMITTERS. As they continue to warm that process will reverse, which is projected to happen sometime within the next century. The oceans are warming at a record rate, now at 360 (+2) zetajoules, according to NASA. The last ten years were the warmest years of all. See NASA OCEAN WARMING and let me know what you see on their graphs.
As far as I was taught in school (a semi-private secondary school down in Patagonia Argentina) the problem with GMOs wasn't the GMO part of it, but the fact that they were modified to tolerate extremely high amounts of pesticides.
The idea is that you engineer a powerful plant killer, then you engineer your desired crop to resist it, then you apply plant killer to your crops and all the weeds die while your GMO plant survives.
On one hand yes, it makes sense that we might want to find an alternative to using mass plant poisoning to stop weeds..
..on the other hand, that doesn't mean AT ALL that Genetic Modification is the problem.
People trying to ban (or refusi g to buy) GMO crops entirely because SOME of them are GM'd to resist Pesticides, is to me the same as banning knives because some dood stabbed someone on the bar down the corner.
It's nonsensical and the potential collateral damage to humanity WAY outweighs any possible benefits.
Going against nature will always fail.
We need to stop sciencing everything, it's why we have agricultural issues in the first place. Britain used to farm very successfully until the government and it's scientists stepped in. Now we've lost mush of our arable land making us dependent upon supply chains from abroad - how is that Green exactly?
Working with the land and native plants and creatures will always prevail. Time we kicked these meddling suits, who've probably never accidentally stepped in cow dung, away from our food supply.
Great lecture!
The big producers and traders of food put it in plastic to keep it clean and portioned during handling and transport and for documentation.
Nobody wants to eat the wrapping; in fact, many try to buy locally produced food that's not wrapped in plastic to protect their health.
We are also aware of hormone-like effect of some plastics on the body of mammals and fish.
Even if CO2 isn't the case of the historical warm times, it might still pose a problem these days, while other causes - like sun activity, Milankovich cycles, Jupiter's position (still sounds like astrology to me) are quite fixed or in no temporal correlation to climate development.
The difference between the situation of hundreds of millions or even just some millennia ago and now is that we've got a planet full of humans, which can't move away to avoid climate problems like misharvests, draughts, rising water levels, etc. even if those are less than millions of years ago.
Because there are already humans EVERYWHERE, which use all their land and just don't want to share.
And in many cases can't share, because they've reached a population density that requires optimized usage of all their natural resources to survive.
This results in the problem that even just a partial return to earlier times in earth's history will end in wars over land and resources, ...even more than we experience today.
This is not science. It's paid politics. Every year that goes by makes it more difficult for Mr. Moore to maintain his position on this issue. His efforts are at least heroic, if not lucarative.
Net zero isn't lucrative?
I agree. Another paid denier.
@@JohnPoxon-t2t But look at what will happen to us if everyone goes along with this anthropomorphic Climate Change nonsense - life will not be worth living.
I'd say the ones who stand to gain absolute control over all life on Earth are the guys we need to stop listening to.
are you in denial of reality? The hysteria side is the literal embodiment of what you acuse Moore of.
@@JohnPoxon-t2t So says another " hair on fire 🔥 " climate alarmist . 💥
I agree with Dr. Moore. Is there any dispute of what he says by "climate scientist"?
Take it from a guy with a math degree, this guy is a nut. People don’t live in timescales relevant to geologic epochs.
We are warming 200 times faster than natural processes. This is devastating for civilisation and the biosphere
@@chesterfinecat7588 You are the nut...
@@barleyarrish A corny response: See me skiing on “Snowball Earth” because next glacial epoch we’re rocking.
@@chesterfinecat7588 I think (nut) case proven, m'lord
No mention of methane and melting permafrost.
That wouldn’t conform to his BS.
It would show co2 follows warming in the geologic record.
Co2 is the gas of life.
Which would humanity most likely survive; iceball earth or green earth? Think food. We grow food during the summer.
and cow and you farting....
@@chesterfinecat7588 and if he did, it wouldn't conform to your BS.
@@dey4588 Only a reptiloid would say such things. Also you just gave a good explanation to stay IN a burning building, cause CO2 is just the "gas of life". Fun fact: it can literally kill you.
Things climate alarmists don't tell you about CO2. CO2 has increased about 40% in the last 120 years, but the global climate has not warmed anywhere near 40%. In that same period, the earth is quite a bit greener now with 20% more natural plant growth and about the same amount of increased farming (food) production. In controlled greenhouse experiments, increasing CO2 up to 1200 PPM dramatically increased the production in the greenhouse without increasing the heat within them.
Earth doesn't warm 40% just because CO2 rises 40%. Earth warms by about 1.5-2C. A doubling of CO2 would increase warming by about 3C. Not sure where you got the idea that temperature rises in lockstep with every percentage point of CO2, but it isn't from science.
The outside world is not a greenhouse. In the outside world, the warming that accompanies rising CO2 melts the icecaps, raises sea levels, increases high tide flooding, elevates storm surges, expands wildfire seasons, intensifies hurricanes, and increases lightning strikes, heatwaves, marine heatwaves, droughts, extreme precipitation events, and tick-and-mosquito-borne diseases. The cost of increased climate damage is projected to reach $38 trillion per year by 2050.
The increasing droughts and heatwaves alone are increasing crop losses. Farm productivity, in fact, is 21% LOWER than it would otherwise be without global warming, according to Cornell University. Big industrial farms can afford crop insurance to cover their losses, but the small farms cannot and are dropping like dominoes worldwide.
While higher CO2 can improve plant growth, it does so at the price of nutrients. It actually diminishes zinc, iron and protein content in several staple farm crops, including wheat, rice and potatoes. That means we must eat MORE of those foods to get the same nutritional benefit, thus cancelling out the extra growth factor.
You enjoy stating the obvious as if it were a big secret?
@@philippesarrazin2752Aw do the facts trigger you? lol Take your hate elsewhere my friend, its not needed here or anywhere. Thanks.
You are slightly confused mate. A bit of sarcasm is no hate. Merry Xmas.
@@philippesarrazin2752 Oh suddenly now its sarcasm. LOL. And yet I'm the one who is confused. OK friend, whatever, makes you feel better after making a stupid post.
Prove to me how excess CO2 is actually trapping heat.
What is your highest level of education in physics ?
Spectroscopic analysis of the atmosphere shows us more heat returning to earth at the wavelengths CO2 traps and less heat leaving earth at the wavelengths CO2 traps. A greenhouse effect.
Dr Moore is completely out of the main stream of Clima Science.
@@martinkirchhoff1084 moore is out of the climate consensus, which is not science. Voting for who is wrong or right is a democratic decision. Science is observation, verification and replication, as Moore correctly says. Co2 being the main driver of climate change has never been proven. It is fear mongering.
...is completely out of the mainstream of Clamydia Science.
So true!🤡
Good for hiM , the fallacy argumentum ad populum is a favourite of crazed religious fanatics that subscribe to that asinine religion of climate-change/globalwarming_ism.
can you not se the flaw in eat sh1t, fifty billion gazilion flies can't be wrong?
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
To what is that relevant and more shortly, so the fcuk what?
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
which is why he is able to dissent, because he is not bought and paid for nor a hostage to his career
People do not understand this. People need to study the geologic history of our planet..
By "study the geologic history of our planet..", you mean believe what others tell them about what those other believe or suppose about the past
How might you or I discover anything about the non-existent or past
Who is to decide what is whatever you mean by the geologic history of our planet..?
Is it not axiomatic that no being can directly immediately personally experience anything or *know* at all of the non-existent or past, but perhaps you are not concerned with epistemology
The entire religion of global warming or climate change is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical impossibility.
While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
Dude humans were hot around. What are his sources? I see none.
Sure.
Check this then :
Moore is indeed a liar. For years he has been saying there is no relation between co2 and temperature over the last 500 million years.
But there is a relation between co2 and temperature if 2 other parameters are taken into account : the shape and distribution of the continents ( possibility to form ice caps at the poles) and the power of the sun which increases by 1% per 100 million years.
I’m sure he knows that, but he is paid to say there is no correlation !
If the earth was not an ice ball 500 million years ago or more despite a much colder sun, this is because there was 10 or 20 times more co2.
The couple of times when earth almost turned entirely into an ice ball it was because co2 dropped too low and could not balance a weak sun.
@@LarryCleveland Just two for you,
The white cliffs of Dover and all limestone deposits, not to mention what has already been consumed by the Subduction zones.
@@barleyarrish I don't care how much CO2 or heat there was millions of years before humans evolved. I care about the climate in which we became extraordinarily successful (the last 5,000 years mostly).
The current pattern and speed of climate warming is clearly unprecedented, even though "the climate has always changed". The warming is undeniably matching or exceeding what many climate models had predicted. Every year that goes by means that Patrick Moore needs to further extend his mental gymnastics to twist and contort science data to fit a political narrative. Very impressive.
I like the argumentation: We went to Alaska and hydrogen bombing stopped. We did this and that and succeeded. I would add to the list that to this day some East Germans believe that the Vietnam war stopped because of the protests in the East Block. Successes all around if only in the minds of the activists. Congratulation. Sarcasm over.
Corals require warm water in order to extract the CaCO3 for their skeletons. Carbonic acid is a weak acid. Corals should be more concerned about hydrogen sulfide.
Thanks for the honest info keep it going👍🏼
It's dishonest actually.
Moore works on behalf of the very industries that he and Greenpeace used to fight. He is, for example, the former director of the CO2 Coalition, which has long been funded by energy industry executives and conservative climate denial groups to promote the use of more gas and oil. Check their website and see for yourself.
Moore has also worked on behalf of the Nuclear Energy Institute, Asia Pulp and Paper (a logging firm), the CASEnergy Coalition, the Canadian Mining Association, the Prospectors and Developers Association of Canada, Westcoast Energy and B.C. Gas, PVC manufacturer IPEX, and BHP Minerals.
Moore isn't a climate scientist. His degree is in forest ecology, but he is not a forest ecologist, he's a paid spokesman for industry. In other words, he's a liar.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481thank you for clarifying where he comes from : there is a huge lobby from the fossil industry to continue the statu quo to preserve their massive income
How do you know it is honest ?
Highly respect and pretty much sing from the same song sheets as Patrick, save his GMO comments, which I counter with: 1.) they likely contribute to digestive disorders and complications, and much more root toxilogically, 2.) the health issue is the herbicides and pesticides sprayed on the GMO crops bio-engineered to withstand same. We are not GMO'd (yet), and cannot withstand these herbicides and pesticides.. which consumption linear risk of developing chronic, debilitating and terminal diseases. The censored and attacked health science says so.
OK, now you just need to diversify your sources about climate and you will realize he keeps saying half thruths or lies.
You also agree that "plastic is great for marine wildlife "
You also agree that "drinking a quart of glyphosate is safe"
Tell me please.
@@philippesarrazin2752 1st Q: no. 2nd Q: I'll repeat "2.) the health issue is the herbicides and pesticides sprayed on the GMO crops bio-engineered to withstand same. We are not GMO'd (yet), and cannot withstand these herbicides and pesticides.. which consumption linear risk of developing chronic, debilitating and terminal diseases. The censored and attacked health science says so.".
Why do you think he manipulates people with this :
21:00 Moore shows the temperature of Greenland GISP2 site for the last 5000 years.
But the most recent temperature on this graph is for the year 1855, on the right side, it is not "now" !
Just follow the source given under the graph and visit the NOAA web page.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855.
Why do you think he blatantly lies here :
9:47 The usual load of denial and misleading information from Moore and other deniers.
Moore shows the evolution of the global temperature and co2 concentration over the last 500 million years, and concludes : "there is no correlation, or maybe an inverse correlation"
To use this graph and conclude this way is either a sign of total incompetence or a will to mislead.
It is indeed quite ironic that for once the deniers do not mention the sun.
The sun is a simple star whose evolution is known. This is simple astro nuclear physics : the sun warms up by 1% per 100 million years.
Then Moore does not mention that over 500 million years, twice the super continent got assembled and disassembled.
The shapes and locations of the oceans and continents are critical to define the thermohaline circulation and the possibility for the poles to build and maintain ice caps and impact the albedo.
Bottom line, Moore only uses 1 parameter. He forgets 2 major knobs, the sun and the continents. But of course he does not forget. Talking about them would kill his narrative.
There are a bunch of studies demonstrating that indeed the CO2 is a major temperature knob over the last 500 million years, with the sun and the continents.
When it's -35 outside, it is hard to get excited about global warming.
Perhaps journalists commenting on technical matters should have engineering or science degrees.
When its over 110 degrees outside for 31 straight days, as it was in Phoenix last summer, it's hard to think of anything else but global warming and the fallout it causes.
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 "By the time cool air from Canada’s Hudson Bay arrived to relieve the baking Upper Midwest in July 1936, the United States had sweat through a torrid heat spell that stretched to New York.
"“North Winds Halt Hot Wave,” blared an exultant headline on the front page of The Chicago Daily Tribune *_on July 15, 1936._*
"The heat wave, which pushed temperatures to 100 degrees in Illinois and 120 degrees as far north as North Dakota, left some 5,000 people dead.
"In New York, a high of 106 degrees was recorded in Central Park. Desperate for relief, people slept on roofs and fire escapes and flocked to public pools, which stayed open until midnight. New York City recorded 21 drownings as adults and children who didn’t know how to swim but were desperate to cool off jumped into the water.
"The Dust Bowl, the drought in the Great Plains that was partially caused by agriculture practices, appeared to supercharge the heat wave. Its duration made it especially challenging: Temperatures hit 100 degrees for 12 straight days in Springfield, Ill., according to the National Weather Service." (nytimes)
@@swiftlytiltingplanet8481 You do realize you're living in a desert right? lol!
@@larrygrove5649 Yes, Phoenix is desert, but you do realize that it's now hotter than ever? The hottest summers of all occurred in 2023 and 2024, right? In the 1950s, Phoenix had about seven days a year with temperatures of 110°F or higher. In the 2010s, Phoenix averaged 27 days a year with temperatures of 110°F or higher. Since 2021, Phoenix has averaged 42 days a year with temperatures of 110°F or higher. In 2023, it was 55 days above 110. In 2024 it was 70 days above 110. Don't see a pattern there, Larry?
Is the Amazon a desert? In 2015 a record heat-driven drought killed an estimated 2.5 billion trees and plants and millions of animals. That record wasn't expected to be matched again for centuries yet just 8 years later it happened again, only worse, killing even more flora and fauna and igniting 26 million acres with out-of-control wildfires. Normally rain forests are too wet to burn.
Is the ocean a desert? A marine heatwave off Alaska in 2014-2016 killed 4 million seabirds known as Murres. Over half of its population was wiped out. In 2018 a marine heatwave off Alaska killed an estimated 10 billion snow crabs.
In 2013 warming waters off Maine collapsed its shrimp fishery. The shrimp have yet to return.
trudeau & Al gore should sit and watch this truth
Truth 😂
Mate the lies are blinding.
them two fools have not got a brain between them, you might aswell mute the sound.
Can't you see the lies ? At all ?? Let me help you then :
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The graph at 10:57 the temperature and co2 evolution over the last 500 million years Moore purposely forgets 2 critical parameters.
The sun gets warmer by about 1% every 100 million years. This is basic nuclear astrophysics.
Continental drifting. The shapes and location of continents impacts the thermohaline circulation and the capacity to build and maintain ice caps at the poles.
When you combine sun , co2 and continental drifting there is a great correlation.
CO2 is a major knob of global temperature over that period as demonstrated by many studies.
To use only one parameter, CO2, is just deceiving.
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The graph at 21:30 ... Do you have any idea what is the most recent date on the horizontal axis ?
It is 1855. The end of the little ice age. Just follow the NOAA source under the graph.
There you will see that the most recent years in this graph is 0.0951409 * 1000 years BP .
Which means 95 years before BP.
Before Present (BP) or "years before present (YBP)" is a time scale used mainly in archaeology, geology, and other scientific disciplines. Because the "present" time changes, standard practice is to use 1 January 1950 as the commencement date (epoch) of the age scale, with 1950 being labelled as the "standard year".
Which means 95 years before 1950, ie 1855., not "now"
Moore hides 1.5 degree C of warming.
Here again, this is deceiving.
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The graph at 22:40 ... Why is the last year on the horizontal axis 2009 ? This is a 2024 presentation. Why does Moore hide the last 14 or 15 years if not to hide the added 0.9 degree C temperature increase since 2009 ?
It is very easy to verify the data on the MET Office web site.
Deceiving again.
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His plastic story. Only food grade plastic in the oceans ? Plastic is the "opposite to toxic", ie beneficial to marine wildlife ?
Seriously ?
All plastic will degrade under the action of UVs, sea salt, friction, turning into micro and nano plastic, leaching toxic molecules, additives, heavy ,metals behaving as hormone disturbers, entering the food chain.
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glyphosate/weed killer incident ( not in this video ).
Spoiler Alert,one possibility is that CO2 increase may cause more rain,this is a definite possibility,CO2 was the first thing used in cloud seeding experiments that worked,it is possible but by the same token more rain will remove more CO2 from the atmosphere.
Two big bad things in GMO's, 1) Improved fructose production which is largely responsible for the diabetic epidemic in the United States, and 2) Seeds that can't reproduce so poor farmers HAVE to buy seed from Monsanto each year rather than retaining a portion of their crop to plant in the next season.
Is 2) bad? You will only buy if it makes economically sense? And maybe GMO shouldn’t spread without control?
Can an epidemic have diabetes and the fuck has disbetes to do withe asinine religion of climte-change/global warming_ism , which religion is based upon one fundamental misapprehension which, if you remove it, causes the entire theory or religion to collapse, and the fundamental misapprehension is that there either is or can be, any such thing as a Global temperature.
It is impossible to talk about a single temperature for something as complicated as the climate of Earth.
A temperature can be defined only for a homogeneous system. Furthermore, the climate is not governed by a single temperature. Rather, differences of temperatures drive the processes and create the storms, sea currents, thunder, etc. which make up the climate.
Planet Earth doesn’t have ‘a temperature’, one figure that says it all. There are oceans, landmasses, ice, the atmosphere, day and night, and seasons. Also, the temperature of Earth never gets to equilibrium: just as it’s starting to warm up on the sunny-side, the sun gets ‘turned off’; and just as it’s starting to cool down on the night-side, the sun gets ‘turned on’. The ‘temperature of Earth’ is therefore as much of a contrived statistic as the GDP of a country. (If the Earth was in equilibrium, that is, if it absorbed and re-emitted the Sun’s radiation perfectly, as a ‘blackbody’, then its rotation would be irrelevant, and the temperature would be a constant 6 ⁰C. Mocking up the effects of Earth’s albedo brings the ‘blackbody’ temperature down to -18 ⁰C, and including greenhouse warming brings it back up to around 15 ⁰C.)
‘The climate’ is difficult to define: is it a trend over one decade, century, or millennium? For what sized region is it defined ? Weather is very variable - how can we go from weather to climate? Furthermore, climate change on human timescales is a very small effect, and the empirical data needed for climate models have large ‘error’ bars.
If you cannot define what is changing, you cannot say it is changing; It is essential to understand that no man apprehend or experience the entire plant -the whole-thing all-at-once. You cannot even sense apprehend experience yourself - he-whole-thing, all-at-once, so how could you possibly experience something as gigantic as the planet on which you live, other than piecemeal and seriatim - little bit after little bit.
If you remove the fallacy that there either is or can be, any such thing as a “Global Temperature” , the entire edifice of climate change and/or global warming, collapses, because it is contingent on the idea that there can be , or is, a “ Global Temperature, which is a thermodynamic and mathematical
impossibility. While it is possible to treat temperature statistically locally, it is meaningless to talk about a global temperature for Earth. The Globe consists of a huge number of components which one cannot just add up and average. That would correspond to calculating the average phone number in the phone book. That is meaningless. Or talking about economics, it does make sense to compare the currency exchange rate of two countries, whereas there is no point in talking about an average 'global exchange rate'.
If temperature decreases at one point and it increases at another, the average will remain the same as before, but it will give rise to an entirely different thermodynamics and thus a different climate. If, for example, it is 10 degrees at one point and 40 degrees at another, the average is 25 degrees. But if instead there is 25 degrees both places, the average is still 25 degrees. These two cases would give rise to two entirely different types of climate, because in the former case one would have pressure differences and strong winds, while in the latter there would be no wind.
You are confusing abs conflating the entirely unconnected and unrelated. Who told you that there is a diabetes epidemic in in kinderland/America and why do you believe them? - Just born as passively credulous as a kindelander?
that asinine religion of climate-change/global warming_ism is a sub-religion of that queer religion modernism to which nearly all of those that work in what is called the media subscribe so the various media act as a pulpit for the various religions and sub-religions of modernism such asclimate-chsnge/global warming_ism and sewerism/homosexual_ism cum fake-omen_ism
@@4Nanook glyphosate is so safe he could drink a quart of it …, right ?
Total uniformisation of seeds, having a handful of companies deciding of the attrition of the genes pool.