It's not the real deal but it serves it's purpose I buy discounted knives and for self protection .I couldn't justify throwing a 500 knife away if I had to use it in a self defense situation.
@@marknorwood8507 If you need to stab somebody in self protection, $500 will be the least of your worries be serious. You buy cheap blades because you are a cheapskate.
That's cool he's had the same microtech for 22 years. Something about buying quality stuff and keeping it a long time is so satisfying. I hope my UT works for 22 years or more.
Not really. It literally costs 100 bucks to make an otf that’s reliable, but they sell it for endless amounts over 300. I’m sorry, but a knife with 440C like a lightning otf will last a couple months in edge without sharpening, if you use it heavily. And blade play? Literally the same. Its known that double action otf knives have it heavy, even microtech. I sent mine back and kept my lightning elite otf, and if I want something really reliable, I grab my s&w m&p single action otf (no blade play) that costed 50 bucks. Microtech is a rip 👎
@@mydoto I got one of their larger production models, came out to be about what a ZT costs. They're not cheap, but they're also not cheaply made. There are many great budget knives, there are even some great budget OTF/Autos; however, they're probably not gonna be quite as nice as the microtech or won't have as good customer service.
They used to be. I got a brand new Microtech last week and the quality was horrible. The entire thing was poorly made - uneven blade, sloppy switch, etc etc. Genuine Microtech off of DLT. The high end counterfeits have better quality control.
Using the highest quality proprietary parts to prevent the owner the right to repair. I can't believe the speaker straight up said to not but Microtechs from Gunbroker. What he meant was; "don't buy used Microtechs because we can't make money on those." Then there's their desire to threaten sellers with removing their products if they sell other U.S. OTF brands. I carry a signature series Combat Troodon, but God, I hate Microtech as a company. They stifle competition, intentionally prevent repair and do everything they can to squeeze the customer of every penny.
When the family at microtech and marfione customs put in the effort to bring you unsurpassed quality having a real microtech is not just having a brand name knife it is being part of a family. The people that produce these counterfeits do not care about quality or what Anthony and Susan put forth in there lives to bring you such quality. I would personally head up a counterfeit department just for microtech to go after these counterfeiters if they did not have one already. MICROTECH LOYALTY!
Majority of people that buy knockoff microtechs know they are fake. They buy them because it’s $40 and it looks almost identical to real ones. Also people just use them as fancy box openers. They know they blade steel is trash and it doesn’t keep an edge. Still cost $40 vs $350! I could buy a fake micro tech and a real gun for the price of one real microtech. Just sayin! Real is always better than fake👍
@@isaakjunkeer785 Understandable if they do not want to invest in quality for a real microtech and just want a paper weight. The true issue is those counterfeiters using the name microtech and copyright infringement not to mention if they hold patents on anything. I could picture microtech as stand up of a company as they are that if every counterfeiter was apprehended and microtech could take all the money the counterfeiters got they wouldn't take it but tell them give it to the people you sold this crap to. I still want to see Ray cut a counterfeit in half.... I might just do it myself (smiles)
I have 6 MT's. I have met Anthony, introduced myself and shook his hand. He did not call me brother. Microtech is just a company that makes quality shit. Nothing more.
@Member Berry You do what you do, buddy. The chances you actually will have to use a knife in a defense situation it probably just as slim. Also, most microtechs come with a lanyard hole where you can wrist wrap the knife. Furthermore, if you're even in a actually defense situation and police are involved, you can get the knife after the investigation is done. True, all knives can fail, but here's a story. My buddy bought a new 22 pistol for around 280-300 and thought it was a good deal to save money. That thing jammed on him almost every shot. You get what you pay for. Like I said, do you, buddy. But also the other point was making people can go buy a cheaper OTF or knives from other manufacturers, just not clones/counterfeits. Thanks for the comment, though. Be safe.
Just purchased one from an authorized dealer from the website. Found what I was looking for and now I might be going back for another. Awesome knife and quality you can feel. So happy to purchase a USA made product.
What an informative video. Ray, I think your new blade dimple is awesome because that there is a story, all for only the price of a tiny mark. It's a great conversation starter that you can talk about if anyone asks you what that mark is. So cool.
must not get out much to be so fascinated by a dimple in a piece of metal 😂 and try to idolize from a distance, you dont have to be so forward and on the mans balls.. i have a feeling you would suck this man off if he told you he got bit by a poisonous snake and needed you to suck the venom out 😂😂😂
@@whoeusbsknsi Firstly, have you seen dimples? They're adorable. Secondly, I may not get out much, but at least my dad says I'm special. And fourthly, I'm super smrat & would never fall for another person's ball tactics. I mean get real! So funnie
@@pateralus9 sorry we got off on the wrong foot.. can we start over fresh, pal? & can you do me a favour? i think i got stung by a bee, and i’m allergic 😵💫 u wouldnt let me die now would you? 🫣
I recently got a Brachial shadow from you guys and can I say that the blade is scary sharp. The sharpest of any blade I’ve ever gotten and I’ve owned a lot of pocket knives
People may scoff intially at the cost of a Microtech but there are good reasons why they cost as much as they do. I have seen counterfeit Microtechs at pawn shops before and to someone who is not in tune to the details, they indeed do look like the real deal. Unfortunately, just about every major knife manufacturer has counterfeits. The ultimate tool here is educating the consumer on how to spot the fakes. Great video!
The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break
The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break
The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break
I've had to unfortunately tell some customers the Microtechs they sent in to us for trade were fakes on several occasions. My most recent experience was someone who bought a "Custom" Marfione SS Ultratech with abalone inlays for $1200 without a box and they wanted $2500 for it, but the knife they had was a single edge machined satin blade (that custom never came in that configuration).
Met Ray at Bladeshow TX 2023 at the MT booth while handling a few blades and own a few MTs in my collection. Most recent is a Socom Bravo mini in route I’m super excited about as I have wanted a Socom mini since the aluminum handled versions. Should be the perfect size for EDC and hopefully MT will offer more manual models in similar sizes. Loved the part where Ray Rockwell tested his old faithful Socom EDC! Wasn’t expecting that!
Great video Ray. I have a few Microtechs, I am not planning on selling them (full stop). But if something happens to me, hopefully they go to someone who appreciates them. If they don’t, what is the best way to sell them to get their maximum value?
My go to is the m&p single action otf for reliability, and the lightning elite otf for fidget. The m&p literally has almost no blade play and its 40 bucks with high carbon knife steel!
Ray thank you for your knowledge and time. I have only ever bought from your nc branch and dlt great video. Again thnx and can't wait for the next video.
Dudes either got half a brain or he’s never held a quality knife in his life. How you buy not one but eight fakes without even knowing seems highly implausible to me. I mean they don’t even offer those color/blade combinations. I call B/S. Probably some 🤡 trying to get one over on microtech and have them service their fakes.
Yeah except with some production now heading to China, it's just gonna make it easier for them to make a counterfeit. So this video coming out is informative but I also feel like it's Microtech also covering their behinds. Definitely looking forward to seeing how Microtech will combat this going forward.( i buy from dealers exclusively except for some of my Customs )
Same with the Benchmade knives. Ever since they started sending some stuff to China for production, their knives suck. I’m glad I have a REAL REAL Infidel. Super awesome knife. The later production ones are junk.
I'm here in Texas where we can carry just about anything. I edc a Dirac Delta and I've loved every moment. I'm wondering if yall will soon make otf knifes with bigger blades. Yall keep em coming
Great video. It’s also flattering to know they try so hard to copy your product. Means you’ve really made it in the industry. Now I heard the counterfeit Emersons are actually better produced than the genuine…
Have two fakes and 1 og 70 utx, og keeps breaking a spring fakes work flawlessly in d2 hold great edge. Live in canada where its prohibited , dh gate allthe way
Ray looks like the long range shooter X-Ring . Like a lot. I thought he was him when scrolling RUclips lol. Anyway, that dimple is a honor mark. Wouldn't be upset at that at all man. 👍🏻🐍🇺🇸
@@XRING yea I actually watch your channel as well as KB32's lol. I figured it out pretty quick especially when I saw the channel name too! Lmao. Take care man. Thanks for responding sir. 🐍🇺🇲
I just got burned bad on a Hellhound vi.. I don't even want to talk about it. But it was razor sharp looked amazing and it came with a Holster and the box/ paperwork and a very small tool to tighten the nuts.. now for sure I don't think I will ever be able to get my hands on a Authentic Microtech..
I love my DHGATE copy. I’ll never be able to spend $500 on a knife but I am happy with what I received for $50. But I do think that it’s wrong that they use the microtech name and logo. That is, I think clones are fine but not counterfeits.
I had been taken a few times in the past. The thing is I didn’t get any discounts, i paid full msrp. Some of these counterfeit look almost like the real deal, most of the time they mess up on the packaging.
I purchased a counterfeit Glykon just to see what a $60 version of a $600 knife would be like. The only real giveaway was a subtle defect in the LASER marking although the fit and finish was inferior to the genuine item.
I’ve been in the military for 16.5 years and have worked in and out SOCOM, Benchmade currently is a military favorite. Would love to know how this brand stacks up.
I'm a Marine Corps vet that took several Microtechs to Musa Qala Afghanistan and also Haiti. Ive dug IEDs and potential IEDs out of the dirt with an ultratech, halo V, and Nemesis(along with normal cutting). Sure there are moving parts but they are way less work than any rifle. Also customs in Kyrgyzstan tried to take my knives coming home, I thought they would keep them for them selves, so I decided to break my knives so they couldn't get them - I couldn't break the damn knives. That was in 2010 and 11. Steels are even better now.
Microtech OTF are significantly more developed/advanced, harder firing and have better materials, including stainless "super steels'. Benchmade infidel is a $400 OTF knife that uses budget non-stainless steel and a very outdated design. Microtech Combat Troodon completely destroys it. Microtech OTFs are on a whole other level.
I can understand why people go to secondary seller websites when you local authorized dealer only has like a few models they even sell and even those are always sold out.
I have wanted a microtech for years. I see fakes on WISH but could never bring myself to buy one. I would rather wait until the day I can afford a real one.
I own a few genuine Microtech OTFs and bought a cheap clone for $30 to see what the internals looked like. Misfire within the first 20-30 cycles of the blade. Misfires probably 5% of the time and with no predictable cause. Blade is mystery metal and will not retain an edge beyond 50 cuts in cardboard. Buy nice or buy twice.
Hmm, $400 for a knife or $40 for a knife. One may last a lifetime, but the other allows me to buy replacements, other knifes, and put money elsewhere. I only buy fakes and never had an issue.
International distribution is slightly improving. I like it. For a long time microtech seemed not to be available but im owning 2 microtechs so far. They are not as spectacular/better then everything else as I thought but I do like them.
Microtech -the best. I Love Microtech and their products. The only thing is, work on the heat treatment of the M390, it is very desirable to reach ~ 63+ HRc, double cryo in liquid nitrogen.
I've got a good eye for these things. I know the counterfeits, the stamped cast, and the cheap. I know them all and you can tell the difference on a real Microtech.
Are there any online dealers that are known to sell real Microtech Knives? With the possibility that Pennsylvania might end Auto-Knife restrictions, I'm interested in buying one in the future
I mean, the biggest way to tell you are not buying an authentic Microtech is the price. I have never seen then resell for half the price of its original value. But even then, I'd be cautious going on places that claims to be selling an authentic one for the "correct" price
58-62hrc. For which steels? Most steels that Microtech uses like m390 and Elmax 58 is too low. Most people agree that below 60hrc is too low for those steels. I love Elmax and I found a huge difference in 58-60hrc to 61-62hrc and 65hrc which is one of the best stainless steels I've had edge retention wise only beat out by m398 at 64hrc and s90v at 63hrc.
I've seen situations where thieves have swapped counterfits with real items at Dealers. They take the real knife and put the counterfit back. Shameful.
So just because someone unknowingly bought a counterfeit and wanted microtech to take a look at it, you hold it for ransom? You destroy their property?
I can’t believe people actually complain about the price of Microtech knives. American labor is high-quality and the craftsman are paid what they’re worth. As a result you get a durable, heirloom grade knife that will be always be there when you need it. I speak from experience-my Ultratech saved my life once.
What a shame that this is happening. Guys these knives are expensive because they're made with premium materials by American craftsman. If you're seeing a price more than about 10% under retail, assume it is fake. I would only consider a private party purchase if its a USED knife and the seller had the original invoice from an authorized dealer.
And then youtubers make disassembly videos, showing internals, and Counterfeit makers buying your product and then replicating it… it is scary seeing how far counterfeiters will go. I am about to purchase my first a Blue Two Tone Warhound.
Telling people to only buy from authorized dealers kills the private knife market, which in turn might make it unfeasible to buy Microtech in the 1st place. Buyers should just be informed. As someone with a ton of Microtech, I'd like to be able to unload my stock at some point, lacking paranoid buyers.
Yeah let those who are using fakes and that think they're okay handle and use an authentic microtech lol I bet you anything they'll be ordering themselves one or probably more 🤣 I own a few and absolutely love each and every one of them! Nothing cuts and hold up like a true microtech will, now if we can talk Tony into testing out some magnacut that would be sweet lol or even using some different steel choices like cruwear or S90V would make an already amazing product even more incredible
So I was watching MT videos cause I been looking to buy a MT knife and was aware of the counterfeit situation, but after watching this video, I am instead going to places like OKknives and picking up a clone. The whole part about you guys feeling you have the right to fucking deface other people's personal property over your trademark infringement because of you want to play hardball is straight out of pocket. It be one thing to make them pay for shipping, but if you want to go battle counterfeit products, target to the manufactures or sellers. Instead you victimize your unwitting and naive indvidual (who would actually intentionally send counterfeit products back to manufacture for service?), which happens to be also be a viable potential customer is poor business sense and frankly speaks volumes about your company's attitudes.
I was at a friends house yesterday and he had another friend stop by. I noticed his knife was a microtech and asked him about it. He quickly admitted it was a clone from china. I said man you gotta love them. They believe in dragons but not trademarks or patents
Just bought my first microtech from dhgate for $40 and I love it,thanks microtech
It's not the real deal but it serves it's purpose I buy discounted knives and for self protection .I couldn't justify throwing a 500 knife away if I had to use it in a self defense situation.
@@marknorwood8507 If you need to stab somebody in self protection, $500 will be the least of your worries be serious. You buy cheap blades because you are a cheapskate.
@@marknorwood8507The best knife is the one you actually brought with you 😅
Fake bs! 👎
That's cool he's had the same microtech for 22 years. Something about buying quality stuff and keeping it a long time is so satisfying. I hope my UT works for 22 years or more.
Buy once and cry once. Quality will always beat quantity. Spend your money wisely.
@@bwrscott1 well I've recently learned that microtech's customer service is garbage, not buying their stuff anymore.
Ebay taught me the hard way; don't cut corners in price. Microtech is worth every penny in my experience. The quality is worth the cost. 👍
@@greyman1363 just in general I mean
Not really. It literally costs 100 bucks to make an otf that’s reliable, but they sell it for endless amounts over 300. I’m sorry, but a knife with 440C like a lightning otf will last a couple months in edge without sharpening, if you use it heavily. And blade play? Literally the same. Its known that double action otf knives have it heavy, even microtech. I sent mine back and kept my lightning elite otf, and if I want something really reliable, I grab my s&w m&p single action otf (no blade play) that costed 50 bucks. Microtech is a rip 👎
No it certainly is not once you get past the American propaganda
not today's cost. almost every knife over $400 now. And the hellhound blades, ridiculous.
I'm always impressed that all Microtechs are so tested, engineered, and assembled with such precision and care.
and with a $500 price tag ...lmao
@@mydoto only if you buy an expensive one, they start at around $225-ish
@@mydoto I got one of their larger production models, came out to be about what a ZT costs. They're not cheap, but they're also not cheaply made. There are many great budget knives, there are even some great budget OTF/Autos; however, they're probably not gonna be quite as nice as the microtech or won't have as good customer service.
They used to be. I got a brand new Microtech last week and the quality was horrible. The entire thing was poorly made - uneven blade, sloppy switch, etc etc. Genuine Microtech off of DLT. The high end counterfeits have better quality control.
Using the highest quality proprietary parts to prevent the owner the right to repair. I can't believe the speaker straight up said to not but Microtechs from Gunbroker. What he meant was; "don't buy used Microtechs because we can't make money on those." Then there's their desire to threaten sellers with removing their products if they sell other U.S. OTF brands.
I carry a signature series Combat Troodon, but God, I hate Microtech as a company. They stifle competition, intentionally prevent repair and do everything they can to squeeze the customer of every penny.
When the family at microtech and marfione customs put in the effort to bring you unsurpassed quality having a real microtech is not just having a brand name knife it is being part of a family. The people that produce these counterfeits do not care about quality or what Anthony and Susan put forth in there lives to bring you such quality. I would personally head up a counterfeit department just for microtech to go after these counterfeiters if they did not have one already. MICROTECH LOYALTY!
Majority of people that buy knockoff microtechs know they are fake. They buy them because it’s $40 and it looks almost identical to real ones. Also people just use them as fancy box openers. They know they blade steel is trash and it doesn’t keep an edge. Still cost $40 vs $350! I could buy a fake micro tech and a real gun for the price of one real microtech. Just sayin! Real is always better than fake👍
@@isaakjunkeer785 Understandable if they do not want to invest in quality for a real microtech and just want a paper weight. The true issue is those counterfeiters using the name microtech and copyright infringement not to mention if they hold patents on anything. I could picture microtech as stand up of a company as they are that if every counterfeiter was apprehended and microtech could take all the money the counterfeiters got they wouldn't take it but tell them give it to the people you sold this crap to. I still want to see Ray cut a counterfeit in half.... I might just do it myself (smiles)
I have 6 MT's. I have met Anthony, introduced myself and shook his hand. He did not call me brother. Microtech is just a company that makes quality shit. Nothing more.
@Member Berry You do what you do, buddy. The chances you actually will have to use a knife in a defense situation it probably just as slim. Also, most microtechs come with a lanyard hole where you can wrist wrap the knife. Furthermore, if you're even in a actually defense situation and police are involved, you can get the knife after the investigation is done. True, all knives can fail, but here's a story. My buddy bought a new 22 pistol for around 280-300 and thought it was a good deal to save money. That thing jammed on him almost every shot. You get what you pay for. Like I said, do you, buddy. But also the other point was making people can go buy a cheaper OTF or knives from other manufacturers, just not clones/counterfeits. Thanks for the comment, though. Be safe.
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Ray is such a great presenter, should be a teacher for public communication.
maybe great for a redneck? nobody outside the country would think it great
Just purchased one from an authorized dealer from the website. Found what I was looking for and now I might be going back for another. Awesome knife and quality you can feel. So happy to purchase a USA made product.
I just one off of Nc blades today 😊I went the authorized dealer through Macrotec and I found yes he blades worth it
Ray you are cool brother… I respect you!
the fact that you guys are willing to send back that counterfeit trash speaks volumes, if it was me i wouldn't want that knife back to be honest.
Ray you should do a counterfeit torture test and slice a counterfeit in half with a microtech
So relieved to see my dealer on the list and mine came in the correct packaging.
What an informative video. Ray, I think your new blade dimple is awesome because that there is a story, all for only the price of a tiny mark. It's a great conversation starter that you can talk about if anyone asks you what that mark is. So cool.
must not get out much to be so fascinated by a dimple in a piece of metal 😂 and try to idolize from a distance, you dont have to be so forward and on the mans balls.. i have a feeling you would suck this man off if he told you he got bit by a poisonous snake and needed you to suck the venom out 😂😂😂
@@whoeusbsknsi Firstly, have you seen dimples? They're adorable. Secondly, I may not get out much, but at least my dad says I'm special. And fourthly, I'm super smrat & would never fall for another person's ball tactics. I mean get real! So funnie
@@pateralus9 sorry we got off on the wrong foot.. can we start over fresh, pal? & can you do me a favour? i think i got stung by a bee, and i’m allergic 😵💫 u wouldnt let me die now would you? 🫣
I recently got a Brachial shadow from you guys and can I say that the blade is scary sharp. The sharpest of any blade I’ve ever gotten and I’ve owned a lot of pocket knives
Im a longtime subscriber and lifelong fan of microtech, I'm about to make my first microtech purchase
People may scoff intially at the cost of a Microtech but there are good reasons why they cost as much as they do. I have seen counterfeit Microtechs at pawn shops before and to someone who is not in tune to the details, they indeed do look like the real deal. Unfortunately, just about every major knife manufacturer has counterfeits. The ultimate tool here is educating the consumer on how to spot the fakes. Great video!
The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break
The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break
The reason they cost so much is because fools buy them. They are worth 200 on average not the insane overpriced 400+ price tags for a knife. You can get a legitimate Japanese chefs knife for that much. Give me a break
The reasons are Veblen effect, conspicuous consumption, and magic american made that nowadays actually doesn't stand for quality😂
What a great video! Thank you for sacrificing your blade!
I've had to unfortunately tell some customers the Microtechs they sent in to us for trade were fakes on several occasions. My most recent experience was someone who bought a "Custom" Marfione SS Ultratech with abalone inlays for $1200 without a box and they wanted $2500 for it, but the knife they had was a single edge machined satin blade (that custom never came in that configuration).
Nice. There was a store in Maine called Kittery Trading Sports selling fake Spydercos. Crazy part is there selling Spydercos again.
Met Ray at Bladeshow TX 2023 at the MT booth while handling a few blades and own a few MTs in my collection. Most recent is a Socom Bravo mini in route I’m super excited about as I have wanted a Socom mini since the aluminum handled versions. Should be the perfect size for EDC and hopefully MT will offer more manual models in similar sizes. Loved the part where Ray Rockwell tested his old faithful Socom EDC! Wasn’t expecting that!
Great video Ray. I have a few Microtechs, I am not planning on selling them (full stop). But if something happens to me, hopefully they go to someone who appreciates them. If they don’t, what is the best way to sell them to get their maximum value?
Using a knife degrades the value, sharpening does as well. So you wont get back what you’ve paid for it if its used.
Pricey, but absolutely worth the extra cash for. Just out of curiosity does damascus fall within a different range on the hardness scale? Thanks!
My go to is the m&p single action otf for reliability, and the lightning elite otf for fidget. The m&p literally has almost no blade play and its 40 bucks with high carbon knife steel!
Just got my first microtech. Purchased an ultratech Jedi knight. Thank you for appealing to my love of star wars and knives.
Ray thank you for your knowledge and time. I have only ever bought from your nc branch and dlt great video. Again thnx and can't wait for the next video.
Is blade hq authorized?
That's wild that they get that close in a counterfeit
Just received my first Microtech. Bought it from knife center. I'm glad to see they are on your list.
I live in Cali but I'm an outlaw, so I still buy them, outlaw meaning got that outlaw card.
Man that sucks, that dude's entire collection turned out to be fake... I'd be livid if I found out I got scammed EIGHT times like that.
That’ll happen bargain hunting.
Dudes either got half a brain or he’s never held a quality knife in his life. How you buy not one but eight fakes without even knowing seems highly implausible to me. I mean they don’t even offer those color/blade combinations. I call B/S. Probably some 🤡 trying to get one over on microtech and have them service their fakes.
I sure hope he's able to track em down and get his money back.
@@charliegone1652 Not likely.
Just bought a real ultratech OD green with trigrip last week and love it next one will probably be a combat troodon
Yeah except with some production now heading to China, it's just gonna make it easier for them to make a counterfeit. So this video coming out is informative but I also feel like it's Microtech also covering their behinds. Definitely looking forward to seeing how Microtech will combat this going forward.( i buy from dealers exclusively except for some of my Customs )
Same with the Benchmade knives. Ever since they started sending some stuff to China for production, their knives suck. I’m glad I have a REAL REAL Infidel. Super awesome knife. The later production ones are junk.
Yeah. I don’t feel bad about counterfeits when they move production to China.
I couldnt afford a MT untill yall released the polymer MSI
very helpful video👍🏽
I'm here in Texas where we can carry just about anything. I edc a Dirac Delta and I've loved every moment. I'm wondering if yall will soon make otf knifes with bigger blades. Yall keep em coming
Great video. It’s also flattering to know they try so hard to copy your product. Means you’ve really made it in the industry.
Now I heard the counterfeit Emersons are actually better produced than the genuine…
Where can l get a clone?
Have two fakes and 1 og 70 utx, og keeps breaking a spring fakes work flawlessly in d2 hold great edge. Live in canada where its prohibited , dh gate allthe way
Ray looks like the long range shooter X-Ring . Like a lot. I thought he was him when scrolling RUclips lol. Anyway, that dimple is a honor mark. Wouldn't be upset at that at all man. 👍🏻🐍🇺🇸
Hey Dustin! Good eye, I am X-Ring on RUclips!🤣
Thanks again for watching and have a great week.
@@XRING yea I actually watch your channel as well as KB32's lol. I figured it out pretty quick especially when I saw the channel name too! Lmao. Take care man. Thanks for responding sir. 🐍🇺🇲
I just got burned bad on a Hellhound vi.. I don't even want to talk about it. But it was razor sharp looked amazing and it came with a Holster and the box/ paperwork and a very small tool to tighten the nuts.. now for sure I don't think I will ever be able to get my hands on a Authentic Microtech..
Why not sell direct to consumer online?
I buy my microtech knives from blade/hq. I know I'm getting the real thing with the badass warranty that microtech backs up it's knives with.
This man has no idea he sold me an ultratech. $300+ is a lot of money. Worth every penny.
I love my DHGATE copy. I’ll never be able to spend $500 on a knife but I am happy with what I received for $50. But I do think that it’s wrong that they use the microtech name and logo.
That is, I think clones are fine but not counterfeits.
Great video. Thanks Microtech.
Is Bladeops an authorized dealer?
Saw a halo VI on Facebook marketplace with a tanto blade and the blade was clearly marked S/E!
Ray,I enjoy all your videos(vehicles,guns,knives) always informative.Looking forward to the next one
Thanks Ray, Hope you are doing well.
I had been taken a few times in the past. The thing is I didn’t get any discounts, i paid full msrp. Some of these counterfeit look almost like the real deal, most of the time they mess up on the packaging.
will you ever upgrade from 6061 to 7075 chassis?
We use 7075 on certain models
Thank you
Thanks for the schooling boss love it
I have been collecting Microtech knives since 2008. All were purchased from authorized dealers.
I purchased a counterfeit Glykon just to see what a $60 version of a $600 knife would be like. The only real giveaway was a subtle defect in the LASER marking although the fit and finish was inferior to the genuine item.
Mega Cool Video Microtech
My LUDT is on the truck and will be here in 4 hours 👌
Nice video. Can you record something about how big the difference is in hardness between 56 and 58 hrc?
I’ve been in the military for 16.5 years and have worked in and out SOCOM, Benchmade currently is a military favorite. Would love to know how this brand stacks up.
I'm a Marine Corps vet that took several Microtechs to Musa Qala Afghanistan and also Haiti. Ive dug IEDs and potential IEDs out of the dirt with an ultratech, halo V, and Nemesis(along with normal cutting). Sure there are moving parts but they are way less work than any rifle. Also customs in Kyrgyzstan tried to take my knives coming home, I thought they would keep them for them selves, so I decided to break my knives so they couldn't get them - I couldn't break the damn knives. That was in 2010 and 11. Steels are even better now.
Microtech OTF are significantly more developed/advanced, harder firing and have better materials, including stainless "super steels'. Benchmade infidel is a $400 OTF knife that uses budget non-stainless steel and a very outdated design. Microtech Combat Troodon completely destroys it. Microtech OTFs are on a whole other level.
I can understand why people go to secondary seller websites when you local authorized dealer only has like a few models they even sell and even those are always sold out.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing! Buy from reputable dealers!
If you sell them on your website this issue would be less common.
Step one: stay off Wish
I have wanted a microtech for years. I see fakes on WISH but could never bring myself to buy one. I would rather wait until the day I can afford a real one.
Great info AND Company to even return the fakes
I own a few genuine Microtech OTFs and bought a cheap clone for $30 to see what the internals looked like. Misfire within the first 20-30 cycles of the blade. Misfires probably 5% of the time and with no predictable cause. Blade is mystery metal and will not retain an edge beyond 50 cuts in cardboard.
Buy nice or buy twice.
Hmm, $400 for a knife or $40 for a knife. One may last a lifetime, but the other allows me to buy replacements, other knifes, and put money elsewhere. I only buy fakes and never had an issue.
International distribution is slightly improving. I like it. For a long time microtech seemed not to be available but im owning 2 microtechs so far. They are not as spectacular/better then everything else as I thought but I do like them.
im concerned about customs opening and putting in a fake keeping the real its happen once to me the benefits of living in canada i guess
The machining, fit and finish, quality of Microtech knives are AMAZING!
Not the ones made in America
Microtech -the best. I Love Microtech and their products. The only thing is, work on the heat treatment of the M390, it is very desirable to reach ~ 63+ HRc, double cryo in liquid nitrogen.
I've got a good eye for these things. I know the counterfeits, the stamped cast, and the cheap. I know them all and you can tell the difference on a real Microtech.
Are there any online dealers that are known to sell real Microtech Knives?
With the possibility that Pennsylvania might end Auto-Knife restrictions, I'm interested in buying one in the future
Yes our online dealers @pvk.vegas, @bladehq, and @e_knives also check out warrior knives They may also negotiate international shipping.
Please leave a link to buy the fake Microtech.
When the ad is from Alibaba it’s a good indicator.
I have to say..... I just got a dirac. Can't say I'm happy. Blade tip is not right. And you couldn't center the pocket clip???? Fail!
I ordered mine from bladeHQ.
those counterfeits look so pretty. 500 dollars for a knife you said? haha.. where do get the fake ? aliexpress, you said? thanks
And the aliexpress one works great for 42 bucks.
Gosh, these knives are quality. I've wanted to get one for my daughter but I can't afford it.
i wish i could afford one of your knifes… they are so awesome but 450 euro for a knife is out of my budget. 😵💫
I mean, the biggest way to tell you are not buying an authentic Microtech is the price. I have never seen then resell for half the price of its original value. But even then, I'd be cautious going on places that claims to be selling an authentic one for the "correct" price
58-62hrc. For which steels? Most steels that Microtech uses like m390 and Elmax 58 is too low. Most people agree that below 60hrc is too low for those steels.
I love Elmax and I found a huge difference in 58-60hrc to 61-62hrc and 65hrc which is one of the best stainless steels I've had edge retention wise only beat out by m398 at 64hrc and s90v at 63hrc.
I've seen situations where thieves have swapped counterfits with real items at Dealers. They take the real knife and put the counterfit back. Shameful.
Sometimes it's the dealers doing the swapping.
If you want good replica then try the lighting elite off. It's no microtech, but still decent
Isnt this the guy from x-ring youtube channel?
So just because someone unknowingly bought a counterfeit and wanted microtech to take a look at it, you hold it for ransom? You destroy their property?
I can’t believe people actually complain about the price of Microtech knives. American labor is high-quality and the craftsman are paid what they’re worth. As a result you get a durable, heirloom grade knife that will be always be there when you need it. I speak from experience-my Ultratech saved my life once.
@Josh's life. Are you illiterate? I never even implied that to be the case.
What a shame that this is happening. Guys these knives are expensive because they're made with premium materials by American craftsman. If you're seeing a price more than about 10% under retail, assume it is fake. I would only consider a private party purchase if its a USED knife and the seller had the original invoice from an authorized dealer.
The price you pay for made in America
STILL, no video demonstrating counterfeit STITCH AUTOS!!! PLEASE!! Thanks! ;-}. MM
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I only buy my microtechs from authorized dealers..Blade HQ, PVK Vegas, Bear Mountain outfitters, Manly toys...etc.
10 years ago, fake knives were easy to spot. Now at a glance, these look real
And they’ll only get better. I haven’t watched the video yet but I wonder if they even sourced the best fakes out there. 🤷🏻♂️
Love Microtech
I would have laughed so hard if his Socom was like 57 HRC 😂
Damn your blade is 154cm and it had such a high hardness!
And then youtubers make disassembly videos, showing internals, and Counterfeit makers buying your product and then replicating it… it is scary seeing how far counterfeiters will go.
I am about to purchase my first a Blue Two Tone Warhound.
If you can actually FIND the model you want, and it's not a Ridiculous amount of money...It's a FAKE.
Telling people to only buy from authorized dealers kills the private knife market, which in turn might make it unfeasible to buy Microtech in the 1st place. Buyers should just be informed. As someone with a ton of Microtech, I'd like to be able to unload my stock at some point, lacking paranoid buyers.
I have bout what I thought was a real Microtech from a well known Knife store, found out it was a fake.
What store was that?
Yeah let those who are using fakes and that think they're okay handle and use an authentic microtech lol I bet you anything they'll be ordering themselves one or probably more 🤣 I own a few and absolutely love each and every one of them! Nothing cuts and hold up like a true microtech will, now if we can talk Tony into testing out some magnacut that would be sweet lol or even using some different steel choices like cruwear or S90V would make an already amazing product even more incredible
Mislabeled video. Why not To buy counterfeits, NOT how to spot them
So I was watching MT videos cause I been looking to buy a MT knife and was aware of the counterfeit situation, but after watching this video, I am instead going to places like OKknives and picking up a clone. The whole part about you guys feeling you have the right to fucking deface other people's personal property over your trademark infringement because of you want to play hardball is straight out of pocket. It be one thing to make them pay for shipping, but if you want to go battle counterfeit products, target to the manufactures or sellers. Instead you victimize your unwitting and naive indvidual (who would actually intentionally send counterfeit products back to manufacture for service?), which happens to be also be a viable potential customer is poor business sense and frankly speaks volumes about your company's attitudes.
I was at a friends house yesterday and he had another friend stop by. I noticed his knife was a microtech and asked him about it. He quickly admitted it was a clone from china. I said man you gotta love them. They believe in dragons but not trademarks or patents
If I had to choose I’d rather believe in a dragon than a blonde haired blue eyed baby jebus!😂
I know I'm getting the real deal because I buy mine at the Mills River showroom.
It occurred to me, a new srevice option- sharpen with dimple/hardness report or without dimple/hardness report.👍🇺🇸 #22aday