@@VidTubeWatch very well worth the money in my opinion. I’ve been carrying my SE nonstop since I got it. I’m sure plenty of new color configurations will be coming too
I've had an old cheap Chinese OTF ever since my state made them legal but I've always wanted one of these microtex but this one looks well built and definitely an upgrade. I think this will be my one and done
just watched this video and was able tune out the bladeplay that came with my SE that microtech sent me. Worked like a charm! Thank you so much for the great video and clear instructions! Liked and subscribed!
@@Psyzzer I’d be interested. I did stab the tip into a 2x4 without any failure but who knows if repeated impacts would make it fail. If you guys want I can give it a shot
I love how simple the solution is for blade play, though I'm sure it took some design tinkering to work out. The one thing I don't love overall is that the new clip designs are no longer deep carry, I think I'd have been fine with the old style glass breaker and old clip. Maybe someone will make deep carry clips that'll work with this design.
@@EvilSSP I’m thinking they got rid of the old style glass breaker in the interest of cost. It’s another operation tapping a hole in a direction there nothing else is done in. So reduced mfg time and therefore cost. I know Maverick Customs makes Gen 3 CT clips, I bet he’s working on them for these too. Just be careful google searching I know there’s a few fake sites out there trying to scam people
@@ethannguyen98094 no. Well, slightly for retracting I guess but not noticeably. I recommend picking up some graphenoil OTF lube for under the button, that may help make it easier to slide
@@nfitzsimfor some reason after it misfired once, now it’s very hard to deploy and retract, should I just return or exchange it? I had a Hera II that I returned for the ultratech, but with them both having the same new action, the Hera was much lighter to retract and deploy.
Getting mine tomorrow! Just curious, could you explain the “50%” lockup being “good enough”? Do you not want full engagement? What happens if you went a few more teeth?
@@ConnorGregory-m3h so they specifically say in the tuning instructions not to tune for full lockup. I figure if you have full lockup there’s probably a small degree of blade play. And on the 50% throw I kind of half assed it anyway so I bet normal lockup is more like 75% on this tune
So I just took the knife apart, and I tried to do what you said because I kind of felt a tiniest amount of movement from side to side if I did it really hard so I tried to adjust it out of curiosity and I realized that when I did it at 50% lock up it would fail to open most of the time and once it got to like 90% that’s when it started to work every time. This could just be little tiny tolerance between Knives and every other knife is in a way technically a drop different than the other so yeah lol that’s that. Good luck guys and I’m sure we will all get used to tuning are knives, especially with how many ZBT Microtech’s are come in the upcoming future😬 prepare your wallet!!! Lol
@ thanks for sharing! Each knife will be subtly different, I think the important thing is tuning it click by click to get a solid lockup. I said this earlier to someone. Usually when you get a folder you need to spend some time tuning the pivot screws and the stop pins and each knife is different. For me this is just a part of that process added to an OTF
@@bsodmike it’s the first time in recent memory I’ve felt a Microtech was worth the retail price. I think it’s well worth the $389 I paid. This ball clip has a nice amount of tension instead of the usually crazy tension the ball clips have. Size of the knife is great for me, and the zero blade play is fantastic once adjusted properly. I haven’t had a Gen 3 Scarab 2, but from what I hear those are basically an easier to deploy version of the previous generation. I don’t think those have the ZBT mechanism yet.
@@IronButterknife definitely not. I could probably make glass breaker deletes if people want though. That’s not a tough part to make and I could do them in timascus and zircuti too
@@nfitzsimnot sure I would delete, just the way you put it back on, just looked like you could flip the direction. Obviously no room. Zirc would be awesome.
@@IronButterknife checked the threads, seems like it might be a 1/4-28. I’ll have to see. If it isn’t a standard tap size I won’t be able to make them probably
@@SteppingR I’d say yea with the current ZBT mechanism it needs more force to reliably lock out. Downside with that is you’re going to wear away at the mating surfaces with higher force impact. So it’ll require more frequent tuning and adjustment.
I think that the ZBT is an unnecessary complication of the design at the expense of reliability. The ZBT does not provide any real advantages that would be useful when working with a knife. I am quite happy with a small blade play on the OTF. Just as no one has any complaints about the slide play on pistols. In addition, I do not want to waste time adjusting the knife. One of the reasons I switched to OTF from manual folding knives is that I was tired of adjusting the screw every time for satisfactory action.
@@yuriistetsenko5948 completely fair perspective. I’ll agree that there’s no real negatives to some slight play, but the knife just feels sturdier with no blade play which makes my monkey brain happy. And you could always tune the ZBT to have just the slightest blade play and I’m sure it would be dead reliable (or at least as reliable as any normal OTF)
Can always adjust it to have blade play and just pretend it's gen 2. My zbt came solid, but after several hundred deployments, has some slight wiggle. Not as bad as old ultratechs but it's there. Might just leave it though
Lol what a bunch of gimmicky b.s. No wonder many of these are being recieved with sloppy "lockup". Add in that you still have a steel pivot slamming into lower quality 6061 aluminum. These will never be as good as a Deadlock.
@@Malehanger it’s type 3 hard anodized so roughly the same surface hardness for what it’s worth. Also what, 30% the price of a deadlock? And they’re doing a trash job tuning these at the factory. Once adjusted right it works perfect
Still no comparison to a Deadlock with type 3 anodized 7075 aluminum. Again, all internal metal on metal areas and parts involved in the lockup in a Deadlock are hardened steel. Nothing to ping up and cause lock up slop over time, nor any screws that need to be retightened every so often.
@@Malehanger but again, multiple times the price. It’s like comparing an S Class to a Lamborghini. Sure, it’s better. But is it worth literal thousands of dollars? Also the base aluminum doesn’t matter since it’s type 3 anodized. Not sure how familiar you are with surface hardness of hardcoat anodize but it’s probably higher hardness than even the blade steel. Also not sure why you think deadlock internals are immune to wear? Hardened steel rubbing on hardened steel will also wear away over time. The main benefit with the deadlock style system is that it’s self adjusting. Other than that I think you’re barking up a tree you’re insignificantly educated about.
You're the one making it sound like I know everything when I didn't say so, and I'm sure you don't either. Sure, steel on steel also wears, no stink right? Aluminum on steel also wears, but to a more significant degree. Speaking as a user of many Microtech otf knives over the years, all eventually get pinging wear on the inside of the front frame in the aluminum from the steel pivot slamming into the frame. Steel on steel wear in my Deadlock user exhibits as rub marks and not peening or hard dents. Nobody here is "barking up a tree". Just sharing my own user based knowledge. Get over yourself man. Yes, compared to the $1200 "custom" Microtech knives I've handled, my Deadlock is definitely better.
@ I’m aware of the chassis denting with the traditional stop pin. This is not the same. First off the previous chassis is type 2 anodized which wears much easier and is much softer. Second, the new ZBT stop pin is conical and will decelerate into position while it locks up. It’s not slamming to a dead stop and then shooting back into the locking tab like the previous design. Comparing the Microtech customs to a deadlock is silly. How much would a hand ground, mirror polished, hand finished deadlock cost? I don’t understand comparing the Ultratech fit and finish to the deadlock. It’s a different league. If you want apples to apples maybe the Atreus is a good comparison point. And I’ll reiterate again, the deadlock system is better engineered in my opinion. But overall I think the Microtech system incredible for the price. I don’t mind adjusting once every few months, it takes 15 minutes once you know what you’re doing. No different than tuning any folding knife.
Great how to video and explanation. I want to get one of these next year.
@@VidTubeWatch very well worth the money in my opinion. I’ve been carrying my SE nonstop since I got it. I’m sure plenty of new color configurations will be coming too
@nfitzsim Do you know if they make a titanium pocket clip with the ball for the Microtech Glykon? I'm not having much luck online searching.
@ Maverick Customs would be your best bet. I want to say he makes some.
That's what I'm talking about! Fantastic video.
Just subscribed
@@AnEDCFriend appreciate you
Hell yes! Subbed as well
@ thanks!
I've had an old cheap Chinese OTF ever since my state made them legal but I've always wanted one of these microtex but this one looks well built and definitely an upgrade. I think this will be my one and done
@@hillbillyartscrafts4367 this is a great choice IMO. I’m really digging mine
@@nfitzsim It is great. Mine arrived perfect with zero blade play. I received your tritium button yesterday, very nice work. Thank you
@ glad you like it! If you ever have any questions or issues please feel free to reach out. Button related or not I’m happy to help where I can
just watched this video and was able tune out the bladeplay that came with my SE that microtech sent me. Worked like a charm! Thank you so much for the great video and clear instructions! Liked and subscribed!
@@notsimplybrent glad I was able to help! Interesting they seem to be sending so many out with blade play. Although may just be a loud minority
MT is printing $500 ,$1000 etc bills. And has been for years..Can’t be slowing down the printing presses for fine tuning . $5000 ones maybe.but…
Thank you very much for posting, looking forward to getting my ZBT -been waiting years from something like this.
@@EDChero great knife in my opinion. It’s been in my pocket basically non-stop since I got it.
Thank you for this. Great video
someone need to try the hammer nail test with this with the partial lock like you do
@@Psyzzer I’d be interested. I did stab the tip into a 2x4 without any failure but who knows if repeated impacts would make it fail.
If you guys want I can give it a shot
@@nfitzsimn. Don’t risk messing it up. I wouldn’t
I love how simple the solution is for blade play, though I'm sure it took some design tinkering to work out. The one thing I don't love overall is that the new clip designs are no longer deep carry, I think I'd have been fine with the old style glass breaker and old clip. Maybe someone will make deep carry clips that'll work with this design.
@@EvilSSP I’m thinking they got rid of the old style glass breaker in the interest of cost. It’s another operation tapping a hole in a direction there nothing else is done in. So reduced mfg time and therefore cost.
I know Maverick Customs makes Gen 3 CT clips, I bet he’s working on them for these too. Just be careful google searching I know there’s a few fake sites out there trying to scam people
Will tuning and loosening that one torx screw inside the knife help with the stiffness of deploying and retracting the knife?
@@ethannguyen98094 no. Well, slightly for retracting I guess but not noticeably. I recommend picking up some graphenoil OTF lube for under the button, that may help make it easier to slide
@@nfitzsimfor some reason after it misfired once, now it’s very hard to deploy and retract, should I just return or exchange it? I had a Hera II that I returned for the ultratech, but with them both having the same new action, the Hera was much lighter to retract and deploy.
@ might be some junk stuck inside. I’d take off the top and look inside. Wipe down surfaces. If that doesn’t help I think send it in
i keep hearing about a tuning video from Microtech but can not find it
@@SighsInternally it’s unlisted, they have a QR code to it in the box with the knife. Instructions are for a luminary though
Good video F
@@Elmax17.5dps thanks man appreciate it
Getting mine tomorrow!
Just curious, could you explain the “50%” lockup being “good enough”? Do you not want full engagement? What happens if you went a few more teeth?
@@ConnorGregory-m3h so they specifically say in the tuning instructions not to tune for full lockup. I figure if you have full lockup there’s probably a small degree of blade play.
And on the 50% throw I kind of half assed it anyway so I bet normal lockup is more like 75% on this tune
So I just took the knife apart, and I tried to do what you said because I kind of felt a tiniest amount of movement from side to side if I did it really hard so I tried to adjust it out of curiosity and I realized that when I did it at 50% lock up it would fail to open most of the time and once it got to like 90% that’s when it started to work every time.
This could just be little tiny tolerance between Knives and every other knife is in a way technically a drop different than the other so yeah lol that’s that.
Good luck guys and I’m sure we will all get used to tuning are knives, especially with how many ZBT Microtech’s are come in the upcoming future😬 prepare your wallet!!! Lol
@ thanks for sharing! Each knife will be subtly different, I think the important thing is tuning it click by click to get a solid lockup.
I said this earlier to someone. Usually when you get a folder you need to spend some time tuning the pivot screws and the stop pins and each knife is different. For me this is just a part of that process added to an OTF
Where did you get your button?
@@HolsterGeek I make them. I’m in all the Microtech FB groups and on Etsy as well
What do you think of the knife overall? I’ve got a scarab ii Gen 3 which is also ZBT
@@bsodmike it’s the first time in recent memory I’ve felt a Microtech was worth the retail price. I think it’s well worth the $389 I paid.
This ball clip has a nice amount of tension instead of the usually crazy tension the ball clips have. Size of the knife is great for me, and the zero blade play is fantastic once adjusted properly.
I haven’t had a Gen 3 Scarab 2, but from what I hear those are basically an easier to deploy version of the previous generation. I don’t think those have the ZBT mechanism yet.
@ thanks for clarifying that. I though Gen 3 was the same as ZBT. Good to know!
The other Gen 3 microtechs don’t have a ZBT release yet, right? The ultra tech is the only one?
@@jkurtzz correct only the Ultratech and the luminary right now
Question, can the glass breaker be put in in the opposite direction so it would be more flush? in other words, hides the glass breaker
@@IronButterknife definitely not. I could probably make glass breaker deletes if people want though. That’s not a tough part to make and I could do them in timascus and zircuti too
@@nfitzsimnot sure I would delete, just the way you put it back on, just looked like you could flip the direction. Obviously no room. Zirc would be awesome.
@@IronButterknife checked the threads, seems like it might be a 1/4-28. I’ll have to see. If it isn’t a standard tap size I won’t be able to make them probably
@@nfitzsimI like this idea
Are they available with a black blade.
@@JohnVentarino-ey5ln the knives? Not yet. I’m sure they’re coming in the next couple months
Yep. Thx.
Nice vid.. get yourself a gun mat😂
@@LeadMunitions yea learned my lesson lol. Gun mat is a necessity
Watching that screw role away was anxiety inducing 😅
@@tims_always_fishing7117 lol yea man that one took a few minutes to find. Bounced like 3 feet from where it hit the ground
@@nfitzsim does microtech sell parts for these situations?
@@tims_always_fishing7117 nope, would need to send it in and potentially pay for replacement parts. They won’t ship parts out.
aha now the UT have also 2 springs 😳
@@SteppingR I dig the 2 springs. Better design from an engineering standpoint, less stress on each spring and each spring tab
@@nfitzsim or ....ZBT need more opening power also , to do it reliable?!
@@SteppingR I’d say yea with the current ZBT mechanism it needs more force to reliably lock out. Downside with that is you’re going to wear away at the mating surfaces with higher force impact. So it’ll require more frequent tuning and adjustment.
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I think that the ZBT is an unnecessary complication of the design at the expense of reliability. The ZBT does not provide any real advantages that would be useful when working with a knife. I am quite happy with a small blade play on the OTF. Just as no one has any complaints about the slide play on pistols. In addition, I do not want to waste time adjusting the knife. One of the reasons I switched to OTF from manual folding knives is that I was tired of adjusting the screw every time for satisfactory action.
@@yuriistetsenko5948 completely fair perspective. I’ll agree that there’s no real negatives to some slight play, but the knife just feels sturdier with no blade play which makes my monkey brain happy.
And you could always tune the ZBT to have just the slightest blade play and I’m sure it would be dead reliable (or at least as reliable as any normal OTF)
Can always adjust it to have blade play and just pretend it's gen 2.
My zbt came solid, but after several hundred deployments, has some slight wiggle. Not as bad as old ultratechs but it's there. Might just leave it though
Lol what a bunch of gimmicky b.s. No wonder many of these are being recieved with sloppy "lockup". Add in that you still have a steel pivot slamming into lower quality 6061 aluminum. These will never be as good as a Deadlock.
@@Malehanger it’s type 3 hard anodized so roughly the same surface hardness for what it’s worth. Also what, 30% the price of a deadlock?
And they’re doing a trash job tuning these at the factory. Once adjusted right it works perfect
Still no comparison to a Deadlock with type 3 anodized 7075 aluminum. Again, all internal metal on metal areas and parts involved in the lockup in a Deadlock are hardened steel. Nothing to ping up and cause lock up slop over time, nor any screws that need to be retightened every so often.
@@Malehanger but again, multiple times the price. It’s like comparing an S Class to a Lamborghini. Sure, it’s better. But is it worth literal thousands of dollars?
Also the base aluminum doesn’t matter since it’s type 3 anodized. Not sure how familiar you are with surface hardness of hardcoat anodize but it’s probably higher hardness than even the blade steel.
Also not sure why you think deadlock internals are immune to wear? Hardened steel rubbing on hardened steel will also wear away over time.
The main benefit with the deadlock style system is that it’s self adjusting. Other than that I think you’re barking up a tree you’re insignificantly educated about.
You're the one making it sound like I know everything when I didn't say so, and I'm sure you don't either. Sure, steel on steel also wears, no stink right? Aluminum on steel also wears, but to a more significant degree. Speaking as a user of many Microtech otf knives over the years, all eventually get pinging wear on the inside of the front frame in the aluminum from the steel pivot slamming into the frame. Steel on steel wear in my Deadlock user exhibits as rub marks and not peening or hard dents. Nobody here is "barking up a tree". Just sharing my own user based knowledge. Get over yourself man.
Yes, compared to the $1200 "custom" Microtech knives I've handled, my Deadlock is definitely better.
@ I’m aware of the chassis denting with the traditional stop pin. This is not the same. First off the previous chassis is type 2 anodized which wears much easier and is much softer. Second, the new ZBT stop pin is conical and will decelerate into position while it locks up. It’s not slamming to a dead stop and then shooting back into the locking tab like the previous design.
Comparing the Microtech customs to a deadlock is silly. How much would a hand ground, mirror polished, hand finished deadlock cost?
I don’t understand comparing the Ultratech fit and finish to the deadlock. It’s a different league. If you want apples to apples maybe the Atreus is a good comparison point.
And I’ll reiterate again, the deadlock system is better engineered in my opinion. But overall I think the Microtech system incredible for the price. I don’t mind adjusting once every few months, it takes 15 minutes once you know what you’re doing. No different than tuning any folding knife.
Great video! Sub incoming!
@@the_knights_edge appreciate you
@nfitzsim I have shown the ultratech on my channel a few times but really wanna checkout that zero blade play
@ it’s the first time in recent memory I’ve thought that a Microtech was worth the retail price
@nfitzsim awesome!