The Long Ride to Milford Haven!

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
  • The Long Ride to Milford Haven! (26/03/22). I've ridden this route as far as Cardiff plenty of times now, but this is the first time I have stayed on the service all the way to Milford Haven. And what a beautiful day to do it! :)
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Комментарии • 204

  • @carlwilson1772
    @carlwilson1772 2 года назад +20

    Getting up at 2 and walking for 2 hours? You are dedicated! My wife and son went by train from Inverness to Norwich today. Loved the film G, great positivity as always!

  • @PodgyAsthmatic
    @PodgyAsthmatic 2 года назад +4

    Oh my word, you're on my doorstep!!!! I live not far from Milford. I don't envy that journey, it can be, and usually is a nightmare, especially for locals here, Transport For Wales out here can be shocking!!!

    • @davidjones6778
      @davidjones6778 Год назад

      Done Milford / Cardiff return 3 times. Beautiful scenery from Swansea to Carmarthen. BUT the Milford train was cancelled 3 times. Absolute nightmare all times. The class of train from Carmarthen (when I eventually made it to there) was a mini bus! Great video, enjoyed it.

  • @wdhpne
    @wdhpne 2 года назад +8

    Best 8 minutes of TV on a Tuesday night.
    ❤ the glasses they really suit you

  • @grahamandrew907
    @grahamandrew907 3 месяца назад

    Did Crewe to Swansea on the way to Tenby from Stoke on Trent, 2 coaches absolutely rammed , was dreading the return a week later, could not believe my luck, a loco plus 5 empty coaches, happy days. Great video.

  • @simonrichards6739
    @simonrichards6739 2 года назад +1

    I would marry you in a minute, years of getting grief and ripped for being into trains (my dad brought me up that way). I love your channel and keep up the good work!

  • @SamsVlogstrainsmore
    @SamsVlogstrainsmore 2 года назад +10

    I like your new glasses! Great long ride down to Milford haven especially on a pretty 158. The scenery and weather was amazing. Did you make your train home?

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад +3

      Thanks Sam! I made me train home, stayed awake the whole way and then stayed up pretty much all night then went out filming again 😂😂

  • @ghighlandchieftain4462
    @ghighlandchieftain4462 2 года назад +2

    Brilliant video legend Georgia and cute glass really sort you very cute . Nice 158

  • @shahjhanhaider26
    @shahjhanhaider26 Год назад

    To heaven, it beautiful to watch you up

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 2 года назад +5

    Excellent commentary from you G

  • @swearingkevo
    @swearingkevo 2 года назад

    Shrewsbury 6 biscuits with a cup of tea ?. Down yer in Gert lush Brizzle I drink coffee and a PACKET of biscuits lol, oh and I love the glasses,, great vid again G X

  • @rafael_500
    @rafael_500 2 года назад +3

    Hi G, after a long stressful day at work, putting on your video makes me unwind and put a smile on my face. You vidz are getting better and better. Those new spex are awesome and keep them for new vidz. Stay safe - Rafael

  • @thomasoakleyderbyshire9761
    @thomasoakleyderbyshire9761 2 года назад +4

    Nice ride TfW 158830 was actually the first 158 i ever rode on in their fleet back when it was with ATW

    • @Matthewsbuses1997
      @Matthewsbuses1997 2 года назад

      I don’t like their 158s as the air conditioning on their units never work and they usually use their 175 coradias on the Milford haven route so it’s odd seeing them use a 158 express sprinter unit

  • @geoffbrookes4594
    @geoffbrookes4594 2 года назад +1

    Hi G, What with the specs, railings and legs…..need to lie down awhile. Oh….nice blog. Stay happy. x

  • @xrsizm
    @xrsizm 2 года назад

    Hey there, I live in Milford Haven and i’m glad you enjoyed it down here in the middle of knowhere lol.

  • @itsmelampoi
    @itsmelampoi 2 года назад +12

    If I was a manger of network rail or whichever I'd offer you a job riding around all day assessing platforms trains service etc ..

  • @nickking9353
    @nickking9353 10 месяцев назад

    Growing up.in Milford Haven I got used to having to travel for ages to get anywhere. I remember that I used to be a 9 hour coach journey to get to Milford from Nottingham when I was at uni.

  • @daveyfitz961
    @daveyfitz961 2 года назад

    Loved the bit on Gelliswick beach, great childhood memories.

  • @JackJolley
    @JackJolley 2 года назад +2

    Another great video. Can't beat a long scenic train journey. Also surprising how long the Cardiff to Milford Heaven section takes in comparison to Manchester/Cardiff. Respect the early starts and walking. It's definitely worthwhile to get out on the trains.

  • @debrachapman6165
    @debrachapman6165 9 месяцев назад

    Discovered this Welcome to my town I live near Gelliswick and worked at the Yacht Club for many years and still enjoy a dip at the beach. Great video

  • @markstramtrainbuscapades1729
    @markstramtrainbuscapades1729 2 года назад +1

    Rode a few TfW 158s last Saturday on the Cambrian Coast. That line's well worth a trip!

  • @iana6713
    @iana6713 2 года назад +1

    2am start? Now that is dedication - I don't think I'd be as cheery as you are if I was up that early! Those 158 noises are so familiar to me up here - keep hoping to get one of the ScotRail Class 43s every time I'm getting a train, but it always ends up being a 158.... Not that I'm really complaining! Those views on the journey are super!

    • @blackbob3358
      @blackbob3358 Год назад

      I used to do that when i had trouble sleeping, esp in the summer months with the daylight hours. I had no problem with it. The coppers did, mind, when they saw you. Went through the 3rd degree a couple of times with them, which is fair enough, i suppose. Did'nt think so at the time, after getting searched, like.

  • @ozmac8695
    @ozmac8695 2 года назад

    Just watched this G. Very enjoyable. Some surprises. Blue sunny skies in England in March? Milford Haven? I had to Google look it up! And a week off work? As what? No need to of course say where.
    Cheers from Perth in Oz.

  • @RobinPalmerTV
    @RobinPalmerTV 2 года назад

    Your glasses lenses are spotless I’m in awe.

  • @stuartrawson5057
    @stuartrawson5057 2 года назад +2

    Hi G this is one very long but scenic journey ive never been to milf haven (if thats right😂)looks very nice there thanks for sharing your day out❤

  • @chrisjeffery8902
    @chrisjeffery8902 2 года назад

    Thanks for the trip, GLovesTrains. Nice place to be and lovely to see your specs not forgetting LEGS!! for a change

  • @Dunco3550
    @Dunco3550 2 года назад +1

    Rather you than me getting up at that time! Milford Haven looks really nice, the lovely sunny weather as well made that early start all the more worthwhile 😎

  • @dennisgoulding6185
    @dennisgoulding6185 2 года назад +1

    Oh the scenery brilliant makes it worthwhile getting up so early great video again Georgia you are so excited to be doing what you want keep up the good work 👍👍😊

  • @oldBRfan
    @oldBRfan 2 года назад

    Our "Gloves trains"! has a new look which really suits you. Thanks again for a lovely uplifting happy vlog. 👍

  • @IronHorseRailways
    @IronHorseRailways 2 года назад +1

    Ah, she's all tuckered out! Bless, she'll sleep tonight with all that fresh air 😁
    Agreed about forgetting the feeling of sunshine too!!😁
    Also, love the librarian-come-weather girl glasses!😊

  • @EandEFC
    @EandEFC 2 года назад

    Great video really enjoyed the journey

  • @Flymochairman1
    @Flymochairman1 2 года назад

    Sunshine? What's that? Oh, I saw it reflected in the water! I hope you did get back and not fallen asleep in the 'Sun Shine' and got stranded. Always a smile, Gina. Thanks! Keep Safe now. Cheers!

  • @Sim0nTrains
    @Sim0nTrains 2 года назад +4

    £25.70 for a ride from Manchester to Milford Haven, I honestly cannot disagree on the price for a six hour journey, I agree that worth the price. Also cannot disagree in riding the line while the recent warm weather we had during the past week (or two when this vlog goes public) But finally you can kick that journey off your bucket list, nice vlog G!

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад

      Thanks Cyber!! Haha bring back the sun will ya 😂

    • @Matthewsbuses1997
      @Matthewsbuses1997 2 года назад

      Is that for a return or single?

    • @Sim0nTrains
      @Sim0nTrains 2 года назад

      @@Matthewsbuses1997 single, because the ticket is in the video at 2:14

  • @driver288
    @driver288 2 года назад

    Glasses huh? A good look for you 👍🏼 the great evolution in storytelling sticks too. Enjoyed this one!

  • @andywright3450
    @andywright3450 2 года назад

    Hey G great vlog and train journey like your new glasses there suit you G .... Cu on next vlog stay safe x 😊💯

  • @Shaunphillips1
    @Shaunphillips1 Год назад

    Was looking for something else but found this video! I'm from Milford and Gelliswick is my local beach! Hope you enjoyed it here!

  • @ianmurray908
    @ianmurray908 2 года назад +1

    Well done you G great video you looked good as usual. The longest train journey I tried was from Penzance to Glasgow after eight hours on the train got off at Preston and visited Blackpool instead stay beautiful xx

  • @glenbailey436
    @glenbailey436 2 года назад +1

    Hiya G, another awesome video, you never fail to please, like your glasses they suit you, nice to see more of your home including the tomato sauce, i was not happy with you walking on your own for two hours that time in the morning it is not safe, it must have been a long day for you, well done and take care xxx ❤

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Glen, and don't worry it was quiet out, a few early dog walkers 😂

  • @FatSlugTV
    @FatSlugTV 2 года назад

    Chilled. Suits you Milady Milford. No wails or Whales but loads of Wales, well worth waiting to watch. Joyous and chilled and a cheeky Shrewsbury too. Go you. Happy G is a good look. X

  • @jacobporrett
    @jacobporrett 2 года назад

    Your crazy getting up at 2am in the morning. 😅 I'm asleep at that time lol. Great video G

  • @Duncan1974
    @Duncan1974 2 года назад

    You did very well not to fall asleep on that train ..those trains are the cosiest and most comfortable on the network, especially when the heating is on! Loving the glasses look btw!

  • @arthurdailey4514
    @arthurdailey4514 2 года назад +1

    One of the best yet, you should be given a slot on TV 😉. 🚂

  • @BeakersAreCool
    @BeakersAreCool 2 года назад

    I have one word for you Georgia, Dedication … in bucket loads. you have a week off work and you are getting up at 2AM and walking for two hours to bring us informative fun and wonderful scenery, thank you so much. Looking forward to the next one, stay safe

  • @antonysmith9173
    @antonysmith9173 2 года назад +1

    Another brilliant vid G, lovely to see warm sunshine at last! Glasses look good on you,now you really are a "spotter" 😆.
    Just ordered one of your mugs in what looks like the cab of the APT at heritage centre. Keep safe.

  • @neilshepherd6686
    @neilshepherd6686 2 года назад

    My dad Loved trains and so do i My son and daughter prefer to travel on trains all the time. Well Done G Excellent as usual. Kind Regards .

    • @neilshepherd6686
      @neilshepherd6686 2 года назад

      G have you ever traveled First Class with Lner from London To Newcastle? My family and I have done this route lots of times and The Trains and the Lner Staff just make this Journey so special.

  • @tonypritchard1345
    @tonypritchard1345 6 месяцев назад

    lovely vlog G very positive and happy cheers

  • @hojomoone
    @hojomoone 2 года назад

    What a superb day - Big Thanks for taking us along! Hope you made it back safe for a welcome sleep 😉

  • @marcel.moebius9384
    @marcel.moebius9384 2 года назад

    very beautiful landscape in England and beautiful stations perfect and I wish you best regards from Harz VG Marcel

  • @cj39011
    @cj39011 2 года назад +1

    Hi G, great video as always. I always look forward to Choosdays for a new vid! Keep up the great work. Ps. Could you do more Metrolink Videos as I’m a huge fan of the Metrolink and really liked the tram versing videos. Loved that video! Keep it up 😄😄

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад +1

      Of course, still got Zone 4 to do 😂

  • @ianbolton9309
    @ianbolton9309 2 года назад

    G you certainly go out your way to give us these brilliant vlogs up at 2am to walk 2 hours for your train that's dedication I salute you young lady, and whot a fantastic ride to the Milford Haven that was a special journey, as ever can't wait for next trip cheers G 👍 🙂

  • @jamesknowles6472
    @jamesknowles6472 2 года назад +1

    Need to do the run across to pembroke dock now Georgia x

  • @anthonylane6772
    @anthonylane6772 2 года назад

    Another very good Video
    In Milford Haven.
    I've never been & it looks stunning.
    See you in the next Video
    Bless you & have a very Day and a safe one as well.
    Bless You.

    • @anthonylane6772
      @anthonylane6772 2 года назад

      Many thanks to you have a very day & a very good weekend and a safe one as well.
      Bless you.

  • @joannewelsh6593
    @joannewelsh6593 2 года назад

    What a lovely journey, great video and same…always burn before a tan🙄

  • @andrewcawood1364
    @andrewcawood1364 Год назад

    Hi, Caught a glimpse as your train departed from Crewe of my favourite of all times the amazing Advanced Passenger Train at Crewe Heritage Centre. Have you or will you do a blog of this which you can board the train and drivers cab ?

  • @James-Power82
    @James-Power82 2 года назад

    2am wake up, that's dedication :) Just subbed too so looking forward to more videos 😊.

  • @jazzygeofferz
    @jazzygeofferz Год назад

    I think that Milford Haven train used to run from Liverpool? I caught it to Newport when I went to friends in Bristol once. It is a nice run.

  • @barrowc
    @barrowc 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video, G! From the perpetual darkness of Horwich Parkway to the glorious sunshine at Milford Haven, this was a wonderfully happy journey to follow along with you. Excellent music choice, great editing and pacing as always and I love how the typeface in the thumbnail fits with the vibe of the pose you are striking!

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад +1

      I'm glad ya think that barrowc! 😂 thankyou very much!

  • @michaelmelia6622
    @michaelmelia6622 2 года назад

    Hi Lovely G! Back from the travels and caught up with your great vlogs. Loved the Racing a train to Euxton Balshaw Lane Again. Loved the first one too. Cheshire Day Ranger great as well. My favourite Day Ranger is your Lancashire Day Ranger, however. Next time we're in the UK it looks like we'll have to do your Long ride to Milford Haven. We've never been to Wales. That has to be remedied. Can't wait for your next great vlogs! Love ya G!😀Love your new glasses too.😎

  • @welshmanjasonpatrick8607
    @welshmanjasonpatrick8607 2 года назад

    Very long journey ther glad enjoy it ther them glass sure well

  • @Chrissykes78
    @Chrissykes78 2 года назад

    These videos always puts a smile on my face, really enjoy watching them Gloves :)

  • @Ulleskelf
    @Ulleskelf 2 года назад

    Fantastic video! I’ve only just found your channel so I need to watch more.
    I did Manchester to Haverfordwest a few years ago when I went to St David’s on holiday. But I came back a week later not the same day like you did! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @CMJoRdZ22
    @CMJoRdZ22 2 года назад

    I'm from Milford Haven but I live in Torquay. I recommend you going to Torquay on the train views is amazing

  • @AndySk81
    @AndySk81 2 года назад

    Always good to see your videos and smile

  • @steamtrainsandmore
    @steamtrainsandmore 2 года назад

    Great video. I can empathise with the early start and sleep deprivation, my last attempt to do some of the Harz steam railways started with a 2:10am train from Cologne, after a couple of hours pottering around the riverside with Mcdonalds coffee in hand. Fun though!

  • @AaronD_
    @AaronD_ 2 года назад +1

    looking forward to this! good video idea, more vlog-ish content please!

  • @traceywoodward9762
    @traceywoodward9762 5 месяцев назад

    I love trais too

  • @hojomoone
    @hojomoone 2 года назад

    This one gets even better on 2nd viewing! Take care G 😊

  • @Denis.-1
    @Denis.-1 2 года назад +1

    G, you look good wearing your glasses

  • @watsonwatt7984
    @watsonwatt7984 2 года назад

    Great video and the glasses really suit you

  • @lastofthebrownies
    @lastofthebrownies 2 года назад

    Good stuff. Highlight of my Tuesday evening!

  • @seprishere
    @seprishere 2 года назад

    I've done it Piccadilly to Swansea once, normally Piccadilly or Crewe to Newport, and once Swansea to Fishguard Harbour and Tenby to Pembroke Dock,

  • @andrewbutler6477
    @andrewbutler6477 2 года назад

    You are very brave traveling 6 hours on the transport Wales service and to have a seat it's a nightmare sometimes traveling on the valleys services but travelled the heart of Wales line many years ago on a class 116 valleys DMU was a long 4 hours from Shrewsbury to Swansea 😆 needed the loo arriving at Swansea

  • @Leonard_Smith
    @Leonard_Smith 2 года назад

    There is dedication to the cause and then there is madness! I am beginning to think that you fall into the second group rather than the first 🤣

  • @TheSugarDaddy1
    @TheSugarDaddy1 2 года назад

    G you just made my day going to buy you a drink tomorrow and loving the secretary look very pretty with the glasses

  • @Paul_Lucas
    @Paul_Lucas 2 года назад +1

    Alright that's dedication! I am past the stage of 2 hour walks...Uber for me all the way these days!

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад +1

      The airport walks must add up to about that 😂

  • @YorksLancsTransportHub
    @YorksLancsTransportHub 2 года назад

    Got on the train on Saturday to Millford Haven it was packed as hell. It was a nine o clock train on a crowded 2 coach 150.

  • @stevenbrindley2469
    @stevenbrindley2469 2 года назад

    Cool, that's one heck of a journey & quite an odd service.

  • @damienlovestheoutdoorsandr6110
    @damienlovestheoutdoorsandr6110 2 года назад

    Another brilliant upload as usual. Looks like a nice place.
    All the best.

  • @stevenclark1883
    @stevenclark1883 2 года назад

    Nice video G, I also love long train journeys. I once went London to Blackpool & back in a day🚇.

  • @georgerutherford24
    @georgerutherford24 2 года назад

    Thanks for that boost.Recently found cheap Azuma fares (don’t tell or everybody will be on to them🤦‍♂️)and feeling better every time I go on a train trip😎

  • @alienzombie1819
    @alienzombie1819 2 года назад

    once again a big smile is on my face watching your latest video, PS is that a Las Vegas Raiders logo on your shorts 😊

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад

      It may well be! Tbh I just saw them in H&M and got them 😂

  • @bluebellModelrailway
    @bluebellModelrailway 2 года назад

    That's one heck of a Journey... And nice views must get out over that way some time.

  • @MrGreatplum
    @MrGreatplum 2 года назад

    Another wonderful vlog - love the class 158s, very similar to the class 159s I used to take to go to uni in Exeter!

  • @LucyMichela
    @LucyMichela 2 года назад

    A day in heaven you say? Bet the night wasn't too bad either though, eh? 😜 as usual a fantastic video, with lovely viees throughout. One view does standout at almost every point of the video though 😍😘

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад

      Didn't realise 109 was in it that much 😜😂 thanks babe, was a fun night watching Halloween 2 and other stuff 😂

    • @LucyMichela
      @LucyMichela 2 года назад

      @@GLovesTrains I'm never gonna win this competition, eh? 😔🤣

  • @citled
    @citled 2 года назад

    "Oh my days!" just when I thought you had reached your peak, you climb even higher. Great Vlog again! Fun filled, enjoyable and informative. Keep 'em comin'. BTW loving the specs, really suit you x

  • @Jimwoodward1212
    @Jimwoodward1212 2 года назад +4

    nice to have a 158 all the way from Manchester Piccadilly to Milford Haven, that would be my sort of long distance train GlovesTrains

  • @Animalambulanceandy1
    @Animalambulanceandy1 2 года назад

    Love the glasses ...very intellectual 🙂 was that the a.p.t. at crew sidings !? Wow that took me bk .looked lovely at milford heaven too 👍

  • @andrewwilliams5363
    @andrewwilliams5363 2 года назад

    Another great journey love the glasses very elegant glad the weather was good for you

  • @Alan_Watkin
    @Alan_Watkin 2 года назад

    wonderful to see you once again do one of my old regulars, last one was navigation road in Altrincham,,, an im from Shrewsbury i would often get that one or the Altrincham via Chester but that way was always a northen pacer with the old bus seats god i hated them things

  • @avgjoeavglife
    @avgjoeavglife 2 года назад

    Nice video G, i love the 158.

  • @DavidLancstrainspotting
    @DavidLancstrainspotting 2 года назад

    Amazing railway journey G 6 hours thats extreme time that i could not imagine sitting on a train that long

    • @ametrinemoon
      @ametrinemoon 2 года назад

      I've done it coming down from Aberdeen

    • @GLovesTrains
      @GLovesTrains  2 года назад

      @@ametrinemoon nice to know but how long was the train ride 😜😂

    • @ametrinemoon
      @ametrinemoon 2 года назад

      @@GLovesTrains 6 hours from Aberdeen to Birmingham or Aberdeen to London direct

  • @Showtime6192009
    @Showtime6192009 2 года назад

    Another Great Vid 🙂 Would Love To Make That Trip One Day Looks Nice And Relaxing.

  • @Jensen685
    @Jensen685 2 года назад

    Wow G amazing thanks for all your hard work 💜

  • @jonathanparry9505
    @jonathanparry9505 2 года назад

    Wow, getting up at 2am and walking two hours that’s crazy. Great video, it looked like you had a wonderful time. I hope you had a good journey home got back safely. Thank you for sharing

  • @philstraintravels9281
    @philstraintravels9281 2 года назад

    I've always wanted to do one of these start to end train journeys and have a day out. a wonderful video as always and I love your glasses too.

  • @NELincsTransport
    @NELincsTransport 2 года назад

    Brilliant video G! Love a good 158, great scenery and weather for it too! 👍👍

  • @firefly24601
    @firefly24601 2 года назад

    G going the extra mile for us!!!

  • @neilwatson4461
    @neilwatson4461 2 года назад

    Lovely line that G, only ever travelled as far as Newport on it although the day after on my return trip on a Saturday the train was diverted from Shrewsbury east through Telford and turned northbound at Wolverhampton to go up towards Crewe to resume the correct paving route

  • @lordgrumpy7747
    @lordgrumpy7747 2 года назад

    fantastic vlog G. sounds like a place to vist when i escape from london.

  • @tinplategeektoo
    @tinplategeektoo 2 года назад

    Longest train journey I've done was from Calais to Berne in Switzerland back in the 70s. Pretty sure we didn't change train and it was over 30 hours in length. We didn't have sleepers either so had to sleep sitting up.
    Plus we had been stuck in a massive storm outside of Calais on a ferry for 4 hours which had even made the BBC 9 o'clock national news that day.

  • @IBLRG
    @IBLRG 2 года назад

    Excellent video Lady Snotty.
    You must have had a numb bum after that long journey ?
    if I'm going to South Wales I always go from Yorkshire to Stockport and then pick up the South Wales services, as it is considerably cheaper than going direct though Birmingham.