Bruh seriously lol, I feel like the flip to grind that he didn't land were just his way of feeling the board out and trying to bail to see outcomes lol
i also switched from 8 to 8,25 twiwn tails, i think you should have set it up with new trucks to size right away. the truck offset makes honestly way more difference then the extra deck width. also then your bushings are fresh and you dont have grooves in your trucks yet so you can take full advantage of the twin tail
I’ve tried every size from 7.5 to 8.5. I’m 8 for life. Not a boat, not a toothpick. A good middle ground. And the wheelbase and board aren’t long. I skate Crailtap G008’s. 8 x 31.8375. Favorite shape. Girl for life. Been mostly skating them for 29 years.
I think it depends on foot size. Can I ask you please what size your foot? Mine is ~10-10.5 and I can't handle boards that less than 8.2, my feet are just too far away both sides)
Consider that Thunder 148 (8.25) are not just wider, they also come with a different height (147 team = 50mm, 147 forged = ~49mm, 148 team = 52mm, 148 forged = 51mm). Good news is, kingpin clearance is a bit better with 148. In fact I like 148 better but I got awakened and moved to venture hi ;).
Does really have a difference between thunder 148 Standard and 148 Lights ? I hesitate between the two. I come from an 8 with 139 Hollows indy and I want to change with an 8.1 or 8.2 but with a fairly short length for my little legs, so I was wondering which was the best 148 to take !
Ha I just went from 8.25 back down to 8' made manuals much easier for an old fart '48' like myself, love your content wish we had this as kids being able to talk to your fav skaters only had mags and 411VM's to get to know them ahhhr memories ha!.. keep on killing it cobba....
Between 8:00 - 8.5 all my tricks I can do but either size has its pros and cons leveraged, you could say 8.25 is a happy medium but personally I like either all the benefits of a wide deck or all the benefits of a skinny deck and 8.25 feels like I'm missing out on both rather than just picking 1 , I skate 8.125 at the moment and I'm sure I'll change again at some point but I'm enjoying how easy it is to tre compared to my 8.5
I think this just demostrates your consistency. A lot of these still looked so good with a bigger board. I believe Chris Cole mentioned in an interview way back that having matching trucks the size of his board helped him wonders. That extra board defintely can throw ya off.
problem is 147 thunders are shorter than 148 thunders, an extra variable that will change up the muscle memory. Probably wouldn’t matter to Tom tho lmao
Currently I'm riding an 8 size, since years now, I recently get one of your pro model VX Everslick, this will be the next deck I'll set up, I'm really hyped about it... I'm a little sad seing that you'll not continue with this size 😅😓 By the way, thanks for sharing all of these contents, facts and impression, I used to enjoy it with my wife, Love from France ✌️❤
Santa Cruz needs a Twin ''Tapered Tip'' for you. 8.125 x 14 wheelbase x 31.5 length 8.25 x 14.125 wheelbase x 31.5 length 8.4 x 14.19 wheelbase x 31.5 length I think those might be some really sweet dimensions for you @TOM ASTA
Was looking forward to this video for this reason, would love to see Tom try one of those 8.2's or an 8.125 with the shorter wheelbase and hear his thoughts. Been doing the same myself with a set of thunder 148's which thankfully run both widths perfectly, 149's would maybe be a tad too wide personally on an 8.2.
i had the same delima.. i skated 7.75/7.8 for 15 years and lately been skateboarding 8.125 primitive decks that miles gives me and i can still keep my tech tricks !!!
I'm a taller guy and I've always felt kickflips and switch flips feel better on longer boards felt better and I believe it's because the length helps with keeping the board stay straight in the air. I'm 6'2" and skate 8.38 x 32.25 and 8.75 x 32.5. If you are a bigger person more wood means you will probably not break boards as often. but they are heavy so get lighter trucks and smaller wheels or don't skip leg day. Wheelbase definitely effects things but I've been skating for 25 years 14.25 to 14.5 seems to be what works for me, but I have a theory that wheelbase is a size that should be determined by rider physical size or what the skater is skating. But I've noticed taller skater 6'+ going short wb, it not really working out and going but up or skater that skate real fast (bowl\transition\vert\hill bombing). Sorry for the nerdy term paper.
I used to ride an 8.5 board, downsized to an 8.25 for a brief time before i moved to size 8 boards. I'm a size 13 so it might look funny, but a smaller light board helps with pop and allows for more tech tricks. Plus it's for that 90's and 2000's steez factor.
I'm convinced board size correlates with skate style as well. Bowl is more popular than ever and I could imagine a bigger board (& trucks!) helps locking in and cruising there. However, for us who like flip in flip out tech stuff the quicker pops and flicks from the smaller boards should simplify the process.
I've been skating 8.25 for about 15 years now, but I just got an 8.5 Hockey deck, shovel shape, with the new Independent x Hockey 149's. Spitfire Lock-Ins 54's. I'm trying to get used to the heaviness of it. But it's a fun ride so far.
I actually just went down to an 8".. Was on an 8.25 for a while and actually prefer it - especially for flip tricks. 8.25 is nice though for noseslides and tailslides (less foot drag)
First video I've watched on your channel. Interesting how you theorize your approach to skateboarding and the use of the board as an object. One more subscriber!
Santa Cruz should make your board in 2-3 sizes, I would have got one days ago! I'm definitely going to try this one. I already got my white és Accels and my cargo pants, I need the complete Tom Asta kit😂😂😂
I bet changing to wider trucks will feel more different than a wider board and same trucks. Hard to explain, but it will shift the feeling of the grinding surface under your feet. Been there a few times. It's fun to have many setups though. Some people say they can't do it, but for me the more I have, the more I switch it up, the faster I can adapt each time.
I got to meet you at tampa pro either 2015 or 16 and we took a picture. its insane how you’re putting out youtube videos of raw skating no other skater doing it like you. Also I rode 8 for the longest switched to 8.25 for a few years and now i skate 8.18 with 8.25 trucks. Love it
Tip if you want to start skating a wider or especially longer board without changing how the timing feels when doing tricks: You have to also make your setup higher either by using riser pads or by skating bigger wheels. It really works
The pointier nose doesn't have the bulk to flick the kickflip closer to where your hardware is causing you to have to extend your flick further out and the smaller trucks doesn't give you the same range of where you can pinch the grind resulting in you not being able to get as much angle when you do pinch into the grind
Super curios about how bigger trucks would impact your crooks. I am thinking of upping my truck size for basically that exact reason. If you do stick with that board size and get bigger trucks I personally would really appreciate an update. Also just want to say you always make skating look like so much fun, some other dudes make it look like work. Just appreciating your style I guess. Thanks man!
So cool. That switch front shove just looked more enjoyable. I hope u have so much fun and find more joy in skating. I went bigger too, and I feel that allowing yourself to extend your style becomes possible, one thing I remember doing right away was placing my feet closer together and wanting to pop even higher than ever, and trusting that different experience, and man! Bigger and faster happens when you just let it, and it's so rewarding. I'm so stoked to hear this, you're like my favorite skater and I just hope you enjoy the ride even more now! Definitely wanna find out with ya, awesome!
It’s interesting seeing pros talk about the details of their skateboards. I’ve never known what size I skated, understood the truck size differences, and wheel dynamics back in my skating days. I just bought what I could afford to get. Now that I have adult money, and getting back into skateboarding. Wanting to figure out what board would work for me is something I’m interested in. I’ve heard a lot of stuff about twin tail boards and twin nose boards. Seeing this makes me wanna try giving the twin concept a chance. I use to use my nose as the tail because it was bigger, and it felt like it popped higher. So seeing these kind of decks being a thing, ima have to try it out
That’s almost the exact same setup I skate. Love having the board wider than the trucks. Weird to get used to but I think it makes tre flips flow better. 8.2 is a perfect size too
Appreciate you breaking down how the changes in shape and size are actually affecting you (good and bad) versus just hyping up the new board to sell it.
Yoo I'm about a week from opening my shop called Pivotal Skateshop in central PA and I just grabbed a couple of your new boards for the board wall..always been watching you skate so glad I can support ya Tom! Hope you can come by the shop sometime if you come through the area.
@@vorpalblades ahh we’re in Sunbury, PA still about an hour or so from you.. the exact reason I’m opening a shop for our local community we have nothing in any direction for at least an 1 1/2hr. If you’re ever down this way stop in!
I remember back in 2002-2003 board sizes were like 7.5, 7.75 max and that was my preferred size. Wheels were also very small BUT shoes and jeans were huge lol
Great video man, yes. You need to use thunders 148 trucks , cause your new board is 8.2 solid, 8.25 trucks. Provably you I'll fell more comfortable, as the same time 53 or 54 size wheels as well.
Im size 7 shoes and highest size board i can go is 7.8 its a happy medium to me for now. can't handle size 8 and up. Tried many times and i can't perform my flip tricks. So yeah either 7.75 or 7.88. Thats my choice. Just wanted to share. Awesome content by tom. 👍 much love from malaysia. 🇲🇾
If you’re thinking about staying with the 8.2, you should ask them to shorten the wheel base for you. Maybe a 14 wheel base, Could help with your timing when popping especially when riding thunders.
I’m currently skating a shape I thought I’d try for a change and definitely noticing I’m not skating to my full potential. It’s cool to see you switch it up and definitely is gunna motivate me to keep pushing harder!
You can put 2 or 3 washers on the inside of the wheel to bring the wheels out so you can see them I prefer that over the larger truck, let us know how you make out
Bro, this is so relatable to me right now, im in th same place considering going up to 8.2 from an 8, i used to religiously ride a 7.75 and my reasoning for favoring it was due to its lite weight requiring less effort to flip. However ive taken to 8s in the last 2 years and thinking an 8.2 would be more suitable to me in a it jus fits my skating and type of tricks i do better kinda way.
Wicked Tom, I'm finding 8.25 is around my optimum size (for a pretty crappy beginnerish, old man skater 😂) I'm skating the Fabi Delfino Santa Cruz 8.25 powerply, which I'm loving from the first session on it. Poppy af, and flipping/shuving good. I def think matching truck size will help with feeling and locking in a little better 👍🏾
Been skating Girl for 10+ years, transitioned to Primitives cause of the shape similarities imo. Size I’ve been skating is 8.25 as a grown adult. Growing up I was 7.75-8. Been on 8.25 for this long, love the shape and feel never gonna change up
I prefer 8.5 trucks on 8s, like widening stance on a car, makes the board feel more planted and helps with getting into grinds and stops the board from tipping on certain flip tricks for a more level pop off of the nose or tail especially with how tight I skate my trucks
Really interesting topic! I recently jumped from 7,75 to 7,875 and landet at 8,0 and this feels perfect for me with shoesize 10. Sometimes i think going up to 8,125 would be nice but flipping with 8 feels much better.
if the trucks are smaller than the board the crook pinch tends to move more on the inside of the board instead of right on the edge of it so that's gonna take some getting used to
Back after being sick the past week! Interesting to see you trying a new shape Tom! Just checked online and your new deck is sold out in Dubai (rageshop)! Oh and umm, it's never a little much to see you flip in flip out tricks 😉
I stepped up to 8.25 with a 14 wheel base, 149 Indy’s and once I got use to it everything is easier. I think the wider trucks help a lot with grinds and locking in properly on an 8.25
You got it, @Tom Asta. just a few kicks and got used to it. I am riding an 8.125 board with 149 regular Thunders. My next board is definitely going to be 8.2, for sure. Quick question about Thunders. What bushings should I use after the original ones break off? I tried Thunders Black bushings and felt so weirdly "too loose" that I put the originals back. I am looking for a stiffer bushings. What should I try? As always cheers from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
Twin tails are goated, been skating any of the dlx ones on and off (depending on when I can find em) since I tried ishods a year or two ago and love em
it may be worth swapping trucks sooner rather than later! Thunder 148's sit a little higher than the 147's so will throw you off again when you switch. Just had the same problem myself haha
I’ve been on an 8.5 since 2008 lol. Pretty insane because I was a little guy back then but I’ve always liked bigger boards. Easier to control grinds and slides especially. Always was better for gaps and stairs too imo.
The difference in trucks is definitely a factor too I ride an 8.5 and just went up a size in trucks, it made a world of a difference I have the stage 4 independent 166 size trucks for size 8.5 and above, l never have as such a proper flat feeling on a board Before it felt I was on a teeter totter pivot point with my feet but to have an even surface area combined with an increased smooth turn radius, changed my life… The weight distribution of board over truck is so great with a smaller truck it wants to put weight on the wheel so it’ll pop out of grinds instead of the weight being pressed mainly on the trucks in a proper way… Whatever is doable if you believe lol but definitely a suggestion 🔥🔥🔥
Nollie heel crook was done once before in "The BREAK IN PROCESS!" video almost a year ago! About 10min 54sec in. Went on a little scavenger hunt for this one!
Most likely missing the front crook because of the trucks. Not being able to see your wheel makes it harder to aim where the truck needs to go. Upping to the Thunder 148's would solve that. Great video as always!
most decks ive had have been a bit long where as i prefer my element 7.75 and havent bought another 7.75 since as i dont skate anymore but 8" up i find length to be a bit long for my short legs. backside flip is consistent on a 7.75 length deck and more of a struggle with 14" wheelbase decks.
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Smaller trucks probably have something to do with missing the KF front crook lock in
This
Yea I think it's time for bigger trucks for me
Definitely
Exactly, did you hear it Tom?!?
@tomasta
Can you guys relax on these graphics?! Now i gotta get another 😂
Tom is so good that his "funky" flip tricks still look perfect 🔥
I was thinking the same thing every time he said it was “weird”. So clean 😮💨
I literally screen recorded the kick-flips because they looked so nice and I wanted to study them… then he says they are funky today
@@ABetterName22 hahaha I feel that. I was rewinding like a mf on some of those.
Bruh seriously lol, I feel like the flip to grind that he didn't land were just his way of feeling the board out and trying to bail to see outcomes lol
i also switched from 8 to 8,25 twiwn tails, i think you should have set it up with new trucks to size right away. the truck offset makes honestly way more difference then the extra deck width. also then your bushings are fresh and you dont have grooves in your trucks yet so you can take full advantage of the twin tail
I’ve tried every size from 7.5 to 8.5. I’m 8 for life. Not a boat, not a toothpick. A good middle ground. And the wheelbase and board aren’t long. I skate Crailtap G008’s. 8 x 31.8375. Favorite shape. Girl for life. Been mostly skating them for 29 years.
8 for life gang
Yes!
but Tom sold out
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I think it depends on foot size. Can I ask you please what size your foot? Mine is ~10-10.5 and I can't handle boards that less than 8.2, my feet are just too far away both sides)
@@ДаниилОрешкин-ы5ьfoot size and how u skate are big factors
@@ДаниилОрешкин-ы5ьThanks I wasn't only one mentioning foot size. I wear size US Men's 12's so have to skate a 8.25"-8.5"
You make Es gear look as cool as it did when we were kids. One of the dopest companies around.
I know I wish I still had my old es gear and red dragon sweaters 😂
Es wasn't cool then either 😂
@AnneALias That’s why it had the coolest skaters to ever love on their team in the 90s to mid 00s. Stop talking anime pfp.
Consider that Thunder 148 (8.25) are not just wider, they also come with a different height (147 team = 50mm, 147 forged = ~49mm, 148 team = 52mm, 148 forged = 51mm). Good news is, kingpin clearance is a bit better with 148. In fact I like 148 better but I got awakened and moved to venture hi ;).
Does really have a difference between thunder 148 Standard and 148 Lights ? I hesitate between the two. I come from an 8 with 139 Hollows indy and I want to change with an 8.1 or 8.2 but with a fairly short length for my little legs, so I was wondering which was the best 148 to take !
Ha I just went from 8.25 back down to 8' made manuals much easier for an old fart '48' like myself, love your content wish we had this as kids being able to talk to your fav skaters only had mags and 411VM's to get to know them ahhhr memories ha!.. keep on killing it cobba....
8.4 is the sweet spot. Great for the park, it feels heavy at first but you get used to them real quick
Between 8:00 - 8.5 all my tricks I can do but either size has its pros and cons leveraged, you could say 8.25 is a happy medium but personally I like either all the benefits of a wide deck or all the benefits of a skinny deck and 8.25 feels like I'm missing out on both rather than just picking 1 , I skate 8.125 at the moment and I'm sure I'll change again at some point but I'm enjoying how easy it is to tre compared to my 8.5
That switch flip was perfect brother
I switched from 8.3 to 9,3 Egg , and is super nice. 34 years of street skateboarding and now i enjoy every ollie like the old days.
I think this just demostrates your consistency. A lot of these still looked so good with a bigger board. I believe Chris Cole mentioned in an interview way back that having matching trucks the size of his board helped him wonders. That extra board defintely can throw ya off.
What’s cracking everybody😂 always a good day when Tom uploads
The 8.25” trucks will help
problem is 147 thunders are shorter than 148 thunders, an extra variable that will change up the muscle memory. Probably wouldn’t matter to Tom tho lmao
By the math, having three speed rings on every axle instead of one adds an 1/8” to the truck. 147s can turn into 8.125s. It’s weird but it works.
Currently I'm riding an 8 size, since years now, I recently get one of your pro model VX Everslick, this will be the next deck I'll set up, I'm really hyped about it... I'm a little sad seing that you'll not continue with this size 😅😓
By the way, thanks for sharing all of these contents, facts and impression, I used to enjoy it with my wife,
Love from France ✌️❤
stuck on 8.1 right now, went all the way up to 8.38 from 8, and settled at 8.1. enjoy the ease of foot placement on smaller decks for sure
im at like 8.12 right now with a size 13 foot. feels nice without being too heavy to flick
11.5 feet and 8.125 board… perfection.
Santa Cruz needs a Twin ''Tapered Tip'' for you.
8.125 x 14 wheelbase x 31.5 length
8.25 x 14.125 wheelbase x 31.5 length
8.4 x 14.19 wheelbase x 31.5 length
I think those might be some really sweet dimensions for you @TOM ASTA
Was looking forward to this video for this reason, would love to see Tom try one of those 8.2's or an 8.125 with the shorter wheelbase and hear his thoughts.
Been doing the same myself with a set of thunder 148's which thankfully run both widths perfectly, 149's would maybe be a tad too wide personally on an 8.2.
i had the same delima.. i skated 7.75/7.8 for 15 years and lately been skateboarding 8.125 primitive decks that miles gives me and i can still keep my tech tricks !!!
best decks, have a few hamilions and prods in 8.1 right now. the flying saucer hamilton deck been running that one about three decks in a row so far
I'm a taller guy and I've always felt kickflips and switch flips feel better on longer boards felt better and I believe it's because the length helps with keeping the board stay straight in the air. I'm 6'2" and skate 8.38 x 32.25 and 8.75 x 32.5. If you are a bigger person more wood means you will probably not break boards as often. but they are heavy so get lighter trucks and smaller wheels or don't skip leg day. Wheelbase definitely effects things but I've been skating for 25 years 14.25 to 14.5 seems to be what works for me, but I have a theory that wheelbase is a size that should be determined by rider physical size or what the skater is skating. But I've noticed taller skater 6'+ going short wb, it not really working out and going but up or skater that skate real fast (bowl\transition\vert\hill bombing).
Sorry for the nerdy term paper.
If you get Santa Cruz to drop a 8.68 or even a 8.5 size version of your deck I would cop one for sure
I used to ride an 8.5 board, downsized to an 8.25 for a brief time before i moved to size 8 boards. I'm a size 13 so it might look funny, but a smaller light board helps with pop and allows for more tech tricks. Plus it's for that 90's and 2000's steez factor.
I always switch between 8“ and 8.125“ I like them both! 8.2 is a little bit to wide for me 8-8.1 is perfect!
i could see 8.1 being very nice as well!
I'm convinced board size correlates with skate style as well.
Bowl is more popular than ever and I could imagine a bigger board (& trucks!) helps locking in and cruising there.
However, for us who like flip in flip out tech stuff the quicker pops and flicks from the smaller boards should simplify the process.
Twin tails are sick. 8.5 for life though haha
I've been skating 8.25 for about 15 years now, but I just got an 8.5 Hockey deck, shovel shape, with the new Independent x Hockey 149's. Spitfire Lock-Ins 54's. I'm trying to get used to the heaviness of it. But it's a fun ride so far.
@@tvsavery666you don't need to lie to kick it
Just got an 8.5 twin tail christmas complete
8.5 is a boat
I actually just went down to an 8".. Was on an 8.25 for a while and actually prefer it - especially for flip tricks. 8.25 is nice though for noseslides and tailslides (less foot drag)
always a good day when tom uploads
When I was a kid I religiously skated 7.5’s, then randomly stepped up to your 8” Mystery Colour Theory deck
Thing felt WILD lmao
First video I've watched on your channel. Interesting how you theorize your approach to skateboarding and the use of the board as an object. One more subscriber!
8.5 has been my size for a long time. Feel like it was the best change I made
Santa Cruz should make your board in 2-3 sizes, I would have got one days ago! I'm definitely going to try this one. I already got my white és Accels and my cargo pants, I need the complete Tom Asta kit😂😂😂
I bet changing to wider trucks will feel more different than a wider board and same trucks. Hard to explain, but it will shift the feeling of the grinding surface under your feet. Been there a few times.
It's fun to have many setups though. Some people say they can't do it, but for me the more I have, the more I switch it up, the faster I can adapt each time.
I got to meet you at tampa pro either 2015 or 16 and we took a picture. its insane how you’re putting out youtube videos of raw skating no other skater doing it like you. Also I rode 8 for the longest switched to 8.25 for a few years and now i skate 8.18 with 8.25 trucks. Love it
Tip if you want to start skating a wider or especially longer board without changing how the timing feels when doing tricks: You have to also make your setup higher either by using riser pads or by skating bigger wheels. It really works
You get a board in an 8.2 or 8.25....ill FOR SURE get your board. Lowkey....i BEEN waitin for that to happen
TA always sooo smooth and congrats to your new size and looks good. On my bucket list for next deck. Keep Rollingfunskateboarding 🔥❤️🔥🔥
The pointier nose doesn't have the bulk to flick the kickflip closer to where your hardware is causing you to have to extend your flick further out and the smaller trucks doesn't give you the same range of where you can pinch the grind resulting in you not being able to get as much angle when you do pinch into the grind
Bro your videos always make me want to go skate. You make it look like youre just always chilling and having fun. Bouta get my sesh in later today
My current issue when i got a santa cruz deck coming from baker is that the steepness of the nose and tail was an aggressive change for me.
Twin Tail ist sowieso das beste für mich.🧡 Skate jetzt seit 2 Jahren Twin Tail Real Ishod 8.25 Boards und möchte dies nicht mehr missen.
Super curios about how bigger trucks would impact your crooks. I am thinking of upping my truck size for basically that exact reason. If you do stick with that board size and get bigger trucks I personally would really appreciate an update. Also just want to say you always make skating look like so much fun, some other dudes make it look like work. Just appreciating your style I guess. Thanks man!
That 3rd warmup kickflip was beautiful.
He got a nasty kick flip right!
なるほど❤ 実にコンパクトにナチュラルにまとめて、大袈裟でないフィリップです🎉
観る側は、美しく感じ、それを容易に感じられる程に余裕がある。 まるで、自然に呼吸する様に❤💐
I skated 7.75 til I was 19. 8.25 is the perfect OG 90s/2000s size for adults. You're not alone on that intro vibe
So cool. That switch front shove just looked more enjoyable. I hope u have so much fun and find more joy in skating. I went bigger too, and I feel that allowing yourself to extend your style becomes possible, one thing I remember doing right away was placing my feet closer together and wanting to pop even higher than ever, and trusting that different experience, and man! Bigger and faster happens when you just let it, and it's so rewarding. I'm so stoked to hear this, you're like my favorite skater and I just hope you enjoy the ride even more now! Definitely wanna find out with ya, awesome!
It’s interesting seeing pros talk about the details of their skateboards. I’ve never known what size I skated, understood the truck size differences, and wheel dynamics back in my skating days. I just bought what I could afford to get. Now that I have adult money, and getting back into skateboarding. Wanting to figure out what board would work for me is something I’m interested in. I’ve heard a lot of stuff about twin tail boards and twin nose boards. Seeing this makes me wanna try giving the twin concept a chance. I use to use my nose as the tail because it was bigger, and it felt like it popped higher. So seeing these kind of decks being a thing, ima have to try it out
Nollie heel crook to manual was a great surprise!😄
just found out about your channel. always liked your skating but never new you posted videos here. so cool! instant subscription
That’s almost the exact same setup I skate. Love having the board wider than the trucks. Weird to get used to but I think it makes tre flips flow better. 8.2 is a perfect size too
Appreciate you breaking down how the changes in shape and size are actually affecting you (good and bad) versus just hyping up the new board to sell it.
Yoo I'm about a week from opening my shop called Pivotal Skateshop in central PA and I just grabbed a couple of your new boards for the board wall..always been watching you skate so glad I can support ya Tom! Hope you can come by the shop sometime if you come through the area.
Where at, I'm in the Poconos. No shops around here, I drive an hour to Amateur Athlete.
@@vorpalblades ahh we’re in Sunbury, PA still about an hour or so from you.. the exact reason I’m opening a shop for our local community we have nothing in any direction for at least an 1 1/2hr. If you’re ever down this way stop in!
Love that you left the missed 360 flip in there, keeping it real ❤
that had me shook for a sec lol glad the rest of the session went ok haha
Can't wait to get my hands on one , stay awesome dawg thanks for putting out a bigger board , for us big ftoots
I remember back in 2002-2003 board sizes were like 7.5, 7.75 max and that was my preferred size. Wheels were also very small BUT shoes and jeans were huge lol
Great video man, yes. You need to use thunders 148 trucks , cause your new board is 8.2 solid, 8.25 trucks. Provably you I'll fell more comfortable, as the same time 53 or 54 size wheels as well.
Im size 7 shoes and highest size board i can go is 7.8 its a happy medium to me for now. can't handle size 8 and up. Tried many times and i can't perform my flip tricks. So yeah either 7.75 or 7.88. Thats my choice. Just wanted to share. Awesome content by tom. 👍 much love from malaysia. 🇲🇾
If you’re thinking about staying with the 8.2, you should ask them to shorten the wheel base for you. Maybe a 14 wheel base, Could help with your timing when popping especially when riding thunders.
I’m currently skating a shape I thought I’d try for a change and definitely noticing I’m not skating to my full potential. It’s cool to see you switch it up and definitely is gunna motivate me to keep pushing harder!
best skate yt channel rn!!!!
You can put 2 or 3 washers on the inside of the wheel to bring the wheels out so you can see them I prefer that over the larger truck, let us know how you make out
A small change can make a huge difference, but mostly just in your head.
Cheers Tom! Keep killin’ it! 🛹🛹🛹🌏🌎🌍👍
I think this guy has the best style I’ve seen like his tricks just look amazing
Bro, this is so relatable to me right now, im in th same place considering going up to 8.2 from an 8, i used to religiously ride a 7.75 and my reasoning for favoring it was due to its lite weight requiring less effort to flip. However ive taken to 8s in the last 2 years and thinking an 8.2 would be more suitable to me in a it jus fits my skating and type of tricks i do better kinda way.
The front crook is cause you can't see your front toeside wheel to guide it into the lock. Try a wider truck or some washers on inside of wheels. :)
Wicked Tom, I'm finding 8.25 is around my optimum size (for a pretty crappy beginnerish, old man skater 😂) I'm skating the Fabi Delfino Santa Cruz 8.25 powerply, which I'm loving from the first session on it. Poppy af, and flipping/shuving good. I def think matching truck size will help with feeling and locking in a little better 👍🏾
once you get used to it I feel you will really enjoy the extra landing room
Been skating Girl for 10+ years, transitioned to Primitives cause of the shape similarities imo. Size I’ve been skating is 8.25 as a grown adult. Growing up I was 7.75-8. Been on 8.25 for this long, love the shape and feel never gonna change up
I prefer 8.5 trucks on 8s, like widening stance on a car, makes the board feel more planted and helps with getting into grinds and stops the board from tipping on certain flip tricks for a more level pop off of the nose or tail especially with how tight I skate my trucks
Really interesting topic! I recently jumped from 7,75 to 7,875 and landet at 8,0 and this feels perfect for me with shoesize 10. Sometimes i think going up to 8,125 would be nice but flipping with 8 feels much better.
Thank you Tom for giving us real content.
this sesh was a masterclass!!! damnnnn
I recently moved up to 8.25 too after skating 8s for years. I moved up the truck size too. It definitely helps 😁 Great video Tom 🤙🤘
sickkkk THANK YOU!
if the trucks are smaller than the board the crook pinch tends to move more on the inside of the board instead of right on the edge of it so that's gonna take some getting used to
yup! ill be upping the trucks soon! THANKS for watching !
Youre gonna love an 8.25. Ive been thinking of going up to 8.5.
8.5 is what I like.
Back after being sick the past week! Interesting to see you trying a new shape Tom! Just checked online and your new deck is sold out in Dubai (rageshop)! Oh and umm, it's never a little much to see you flip in flip out tricks 😉
I stepped up to 8.25 with a 14 wheel base, 149 Indy’s and once I got use to it everything is easier. I think the wider trucks help a lot with grinds and locking in properly on an 8.25
your skating style is amazing
Dope video!! Very in depth too
You got it, @Tom Asta. just a few kicks and got used to it. I am riding an 8.125 board with 149 regular Thunders. My next board is definitely going to be 8.2, for sure. Quick question about Thunders. What bushings should I use after the original ones break off? I tried Thunders Black bushings and felt so weirdly "too loose" that I put the originals back. I am looking for a stiffer bushings. What should I try?
As always cheers from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
Hey mate av got the bones hardcore bushings and love them on my thunder 149s
I started skating in 2001 and ngl, I miss my 7.5's sometimes. Any flip trick was so easy and effortless on those boards...
Loved the video man, hope you get used to this shape and tricks. Greetings from Brazil !
welcome to the board madness club
I recently started skating 8.38" boards up from 8.25" (although I prefer symmetrical egg shapes if I can get my hands on one)
Keep at it Tom!!!!!!! You da best man!!!!
Interesting video. I recently switched to an 8 from skating a 7.75 for the last 25 odd years, lol
me too! (; It feels much better.
Twin tails are goated, been skating any of the dlx ones on and off (depending on when I can find em) since I tried ishods a year or two ago and love em
it may be worth swapping trucks sooner rather than later! Thunder 148's sit a little higher than the 147's so will throw you off again when you switch. Just had the same problem myself haha
I’ve been on an 8.5 since 2008 lol. Pretty insane because I was a little guy back then but I’ve always liked bigger boards. Easier to control grinds and slides especially. Always was better for gaps and stairs too imo.
Love the accel slim X swift 1.5 🔥🔥🔥
The difference in trucks is definitely a factor too
I ride an 8.5 and just went up a size in trucks, it made a world of a difference
I have the stage 4 independent 166 size trucks for size 8.5 and above, l never have as such a proper flat feeling on a board
Before it felt I was on a teeter totter pivot point with my feet but to have an even surface area combined with an increased smooth turn radius, changed my life…
The weight distribution of board over truck is so great with a smaller truck it wants to put weight on the wheel so it’ll pop out of grinds instead of the weight being pressed mainly on the trucks in a proper way…
Whatever is doable if you believe lol but definitely a suggestion 🔥🔥🔥
Twin tail is genius, I avoid doing 180 rotating tricks because of landing of the HUGE tail on a regular shape (8.5 board)
Looks solid, super interested to know if getting 8.25 trucks does that front crook differently. 2 set ups on the next video?
Nollie heel crook was done once before in "The BREAK IN PROCESS!" video almost a year ago! About 10min 54sec in. Went on a little scavenger hunt for this one!
yesss! THANKS for your research lol
such luscious kickflips
Most likely missing the front crook because of the trucks. Not being able to see your wheel makes it harder to aim where the truck needs to go. Upping to the Thunder 148's would solve that. Great video as always!
let's goo! been looking for a TA deck, 8's too skinny for my old legs and bowl skatin', gonna grab one of those 8.2s!
bout dam time more Skate companies make more twin shape boards😅been riding McCoy’s twin shape for a minute and i like it.
most decks ive had have been a bit long where as i prefer my element 7.75 and havent bought another 7.75 since as i dont skate anymore but 8" up i find length to be a bit long for my short legs. backside flip is consistent on a 7.75 length deck and more of a struggle with 14" wheelbase decks.
I ride 8.5 thunder team hollows on an 8.25 Crailtap twin tip. Locks into fs crooks and fs feebles nicely