Alien: Romulus Test Screening Leaks Reveal Connection to Covenant & Original Alien (MAJOR SPOILERS)
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2024
- SPOILERS! A recent test screening has revealed numerous leaks, more importantly, how this film connects to both the original Alien and the recent prequel films Prometheus and Covenant. #Alien #AlienRomulus #prometheus
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*Update* If you’d like to read more on the leaks, sourced from AvP Galaxy: www.avpgalaxy.net/2024/03/13/exclusive-spoilers-how-alien-romulus-connects-to-the-prequels-the-original-alien/
God forbid moving on and expanding the universe. Nooo, we got to keep tying shit up to the past.
People surviving these creatures is becoming tiresome.
black goo = fail
researchers monkeying with alien dna makin their own stuff = fail
copy ripley trope yet again = fail
no longer interested in seeing this at all. boycott of hollywood schlock shall continue in favor of various foreign films.
Remember that a lot of these supposed "leaks" could just be the studio floating shit out there to see peoples reactions and then edit accordingly.
gta6 in a nut shell.
If that's the case, why not leak it WAY earlier, before the movie has actually been filmed?
Yeah, maybe
In Hollywood everyone can hear you scream.
I wouldn't be surprised if the team on this new station is using David's research from Covenant, if they are extracting and experimenting with the Black Goo. He did send them the creepy communication that was an extra on the Blu-ray, so this is how we might discover David's fate after Covenant without the need to do another prequel installment.
Dang Nick you just made my weekend!! Thank you. This sounds all kinds of weird. I heard a rumor a while back that the film was possibly going to be a take on Alien Isolation. That would have been awesome. I don't know if they will mention David, or the survivors from Covenant. Closure would be cool.
I like the open ended despair of Alien Covenant. My favorite idea for a sequel to that would be something like Event Horizon where Covenant is found many years later and a salvage crew boards and comes face to face with David and his demented creations.
the way david stood over katherine watersone character and placed the xeno embryo into her cryo chamber and after she had worked out that david had killed shaw and menacingly said i am going to do you what i did to her and he has his hands over her mouth. chilling, chilling chilling @@edwardjohnson6744
@@edwardjohnson6744 I’m not sure how many years down the timeline the events of David hijacking Covenant is from Ripley and Nostromo setting down on LV426 and picking up that thing that killed her crew. What I do know is that the new movie IS a group of people trying to salvage a space station that’s floating with no power.
It's been confirmed there will be a Prometheus show/series that will continue the story of David and the Engineers
@@davemilk8520 do you have a source please?
It is always great to see an upload from you.
I am optimistic about this.
Prey was also pretty fun.
If they have permission from Ian Holm's estate to use his likeness and if the estate is getting some residuals then I do not see an issue with it. Some actors might find it great to be able to continue acting and continue getting paid even after death. If they are going to do this, I'd assume the estate has already given the go-ahead. Using AI could make the character look a little bit uncanny valley which will work well for an "artificial person".
So family members being fine with money makes it OK? Their opinion doesn’t mean shit.
The cost of creating a CGI Ian Holm would be astronomical and, in my opinion, total waste of cash. I find that rumour highly unlikely.
I’m at the stage now that I believe they need to reboot this entire franchise !!
I just don't understand why they didn't make another entry to wrap up the prequels. They could've easily tied them together.
I would've based the whole thing on W-Y finding the Covenant drifting around. It's a trap set up by David as he has impregnated a shit-ton of cryotubed colonists and has continued his experiments for years while drifting around in space.
As he's running out of hosts and the Covenant for whatever reason is stuck in space, he reveals his position, but not to the Company at first. Instead he tries to lure in space truckers and smugglers and whatnot. He needs more hosts and spare parts, and he doesn't want the Company, competitors or the USCMC, to be involved...yet.
As a plot twist, David has uploaded himself into the Covenant ship as his body was severely messed up after an altercation with one of the xenomorph specimens on board (alluded that it's the xenomorph birthed from Daniels or Tennesse). Needless to say, David is hoping that whomever he lures to the somewhat derelict Covenant, will also bring one or several synths with them for him to use as spare parts.
Not only one, but two clueless smuggler/trucker crews/ships come to investigate the Covenant. David fools the first crew to repair his body while pretending that he is the Covenant ship AI; the crew synth is just a simple Working Joe type of synth, and thus he manages to talk the crew into using their Joe's body to repair him. They agree after David covertly releases a few xenomorph specimens loose, then to present himself to the crew as the only one who can save them. David, now with a functioning body to download himself into, releases more xenos, and it doesn't take long before the whole crew is gone. The last survivor of the crew decides to drive and crash their ship into the Covenant rather than trying to escape as he/she realizes that he/she has already been impregnated (David taunts him/her over the com, claiming that he - David - lying that he knows how to extract the embryo inside the surviving crew member through surgery).
The Covenant is now severely damaged with thousands of xenos gone (or floating in space). David however is now back inside his body (a creepy mishmash of his former self and Working Joe spare parts). He tries to contact the Company this time, but all means of communications have been destroyed. David is completely cut off.
Luckily for him the second lured in crew of smugglers/truckers arrives. These guys however are apparently proffesional criminals and only see David as something they can sell on the black market. They loot Covenant wreckage in an effective and efficient way, which (the Covenant) has suffered from several subsequent explosions, rendering it into a floating heap of debris. Several of the looters are killed by drifting xenos as they get greedy and overstaying their "welcome" after they find vats with facehuggers. Two of the xenos make it on board the looters' ship.
David is indirectly freed by the two xenos, and with his help the surviving members of the looter crew is killed, while one of the xenos is jettisonned into space with together with two of the looters. David programs the looters' spaceship destinations for where the Romulus is located. Together with the xeno, plus a bunch of vats with facehuggers inside, David sets off.
Triumphant, David thinks that he's safe from the surviving xenomorph on board, despite what happened to him on the Covenant several years ago. He names the xeno Walter, talking to it through the video feed. He decides to study its intelligence instead of trying to kill it, or trying freeze it and harness it for later studies. David notices that the creature is becoming more and more aware that it is being studied and that the machinery in its environment is a part of that. David is intrigued by Walter the Xeno and decides that he wants to "teach it tricks". Maybe Walter the Xeno will be easier to control and groom than Walter the Robot?
Walter the Xeno is indeed a quick and fast learner, and exceeds all of David's expectations, and it isn't until it's too late that David realizes that Walter the Xeno has outsmarted him. Walter traps David and kills him - not just killing him, but completely tearing him to pieces. Walter the Xeno enters hibernation while drifting onboard the looters' ship into W-Y territory. The Romulus station is in for a treat...
Instead of the unrealistic prospect of W-Y finding Big Chap drifting around in space, they could've just had an "updated" xenomorph version from David's xeno strain be the progenitor of the xenomorphs onboard the Romulus. I also LOVE the idea of David studying xeno intelligence just to be outsmarted by it, just like he outsmarted the humans and the Engineers. It would've also been a nice touch if David started to realize that it WASN'T his (David's) fiddling and experimenting with the black goo that created the Xenomorph - it was the Black Goo's inate formula and nature that lead to the "end product", which is the Xenomorph we all know...
Because it makes no sense to spend $100 million on a conclusion to a trilogy fans don't care about, and nobody else even remembers?
I hated how Covenant was executed. I wish they made covenant pursue the Engineers story and tied that into Alien Right Away. I just don't like the story of David being the one to create these aliens... or experimenting. idk.
Because not enough people care about a story of a dumb android that is a narcissist? The Engineers were interesting, but they got thrown under the carpet, maybe because of the studio. When you have characters with mostly no personality, there is a problem because most characters were just faces without personality.
This.
@@earthcitizen3939well I’ll say that the alien cov was prolly better in terms of characters than Prometheus
I was a little shocked you gave such detailed spoilers here, I wasn’t expecting that. I almost regret watching this video. Oh well, I am really looking forward to this movie. I hope it does really well.
The morality of resurrecting a deceased actor is highly questionable.
A male leading protagonist would be a breath of fresh air and not be unwelcome in the alien franchise considering how absurd some of the female protagonists have been in the sci-horror genre recently.
I find that very disturbing.
I have so many questions about it.
I mean, did he give his consent for such an idea?
If the company had asked him before he died if they could use his face and voice using technology (and paid him a nice chunk of change upfront) then I guess it's "oh well".
But if he never signed off on such a thing it seems downright insulting to his honor/memory/legacy/agency, to literally cast him in a movie without his permission, participation, creative influence or anything at all.
If we stretched this idea/scenario to it's farthest conclusion (and used our imaginations) we could see a future where, if an actor draws in big money, but doesn't want to do a certain role, a greedy evil studio could put a hit on said actor and then go ahead and just make the movie with them using AI.
I know that sounds stupid and far fetched but sometimes when thinking about the ethics/morality of certain things you have to employ situational ethics and imagine scenarios.
Let's say they want to make another Iron Man movie but Robert Downey is really tired of making them.
The studio knows if it makes an Iron man movie they'll rake in a billion dollars. They could "put a hit" on Robert, "make it look like a terrible accident" or something, and once he's dead they can make the movie using AI (if consent/pay for future projects isn't necessary.)
That's messed up! I know that sounds dumb but...
I’d be thrilled for a male protagonist finally. Or at least a movie with both.
As for the AI thing, I would suspect they would at least ask his family for permission if he didn’t already sign off on it. Otherwise they’d be in some legal hot water potentially I’d figure. It is weird for sure and I find such things as uncanny and grey.
It would be nice. The formula of the final girl is tired.
Yeah,cause there's never been a male protagonist before? The whole reason female survivors became fashionable to begin with is because they were always male, and also females,being traditionally more unlikely to survive was noval ,if anything may be its just as boring as endless male protagonist,but the idea that were starved for male leads is more critically in fashion, more so than that it's an accurate criticism. It kinda seems like butthurt whining sometimes? Who cares what genitals are involved,if the plot resolution makes sense,and the performances are good? Becoming a stale trope of its own,feeling the need to have more dudes saving the day to make people feel better, these are fantasies, so why would realism,or balance ever have anything to do with it? Do you really care if a man is the second last one standing? What is it ruining for you? How many dudes need to be cast as the answer to all heroic questions \ scenarios to make you feel better?
@@johnscott6481and in one wall of text you’ve summed up why the rest of us think a male protagonist is a good idea. Well done, your nonsense done the complete opposite of what you set out to achieve with that massive ramble 👍🏻
2:25 They would never be able to "recover" the Alien from the first film. Space is to vast it would be impossible to find. That would be like telling someone "Hey go find this specific grain of sand for me... it's somewhere on Earth good luck!"
Fair point for our technology; however, in these movies their tech is far more advanced than ours and they are already doing many things we have yet to do.
@@greggsmith4570 right..... them computer terminals they had on the nostromo looked far more advanced than anything we got.... maybe by 1980 we will catch up to their vast technology advantage. the alien was moving through space at about the same velocity as the escape ship and that was already very far away and moving constantly away when nostromo detonated. even if they new the last position of nostromo they would still have to sweep an area of millions of miles to find the alien the size of a human. maybe they just used a bus sized motion tracker and moved it back and forth a few minutes and viola!!
@@Jolly-Green-Steve not even sure how to gauge your tone. What I do know is that Alien came out in 1979 and whatever terminals they featured were interpretations of advanced technology. We did not in fact catch up in 1980, unless you know of any manned missions to planets outside our solar system that I have yet to hear of.
@@greggsmith4570 yeah one color is very advanced for a computer screen. even NES could do 16 colors on screen hundreds of years before this movie happened. why don't you ask mother why she can only talk in green type? at least NES has multi-channel audio!!! ahahhahaa!!!
@@Jolly-Green-Steve perhaps they prioritized other mechanical aspects of their ship which enabled deep space exploration over useless screen colors. Did not seem that the lack of a multicolor screen inhibited their ability to traverse space at a higher level than we currently can.
Personally I loved Prometheus and Covenant and wish they would continue it
I don’t know what everyone’s problem was with those movies I think they were really good 👍🏾
My problem is that most human characters had no personality, and that it became about the androids.
@@earthcitizen3939 wasn’t David the only android? I thought Shaw had plenty of personality
@@drrecommended4850 David in Prometheus, David and Walter in AC. Shaw was really annoying, but she died thank you very much for that. Rapace is a good actress but Shaw was lame.
@@earthcitizen3939it was not a character driven film it was story driven. That's part of the main theme of the Alien franchise. People are not important, only the ones who make the decisions just like huge corporations. The Alien is the prize and sacrificing a few hundred humans is acceptable. The crew on the Prometheus were all expendable. They wouldn't send the best off to die. If the crew was smart they would have figured out what was going on instead of dying. All the movies have the same view of the people who encounter the danger while Wayland pulls the strings
Where did you get the clip of Daniels hunting the 06:20 Alien on board Covenant in the hibenation crew area ? I have never seen that before and I can't find it anywhere.
Can’t wait for this flick! Thanks for the new info Nick.
Go be excited for another trash lazy CGI movie.
I want Shaw's and Ripley's clone meet at the end of this whole saga. Discovering the engineers and fighting all of them altogether.
Big chap got torched by the narcissus' engines on screen though...
Torched? No. Pushed away? Yes. Still stupid plot point for Romulus if true? Yes
I read in the Cinefantastique article that came out when the film debuted that the white light and water effects were supposed to represent the "White Hot" temperature of Narcisse' engines.
So considering the "Aliens" colonial marines' flame throwers were lethal to the xenomorphs...
yes, "Big Chap" would've been petrified cinder.
He was still intact and seemed alive probably didn't enjoy it much..not like the vacuum of space kills them .
@mrspeigel3593
He didn't look alive to me.
Rather petrified.
Sort of the same way his kin look when I find them dead inside of light fixtures.
Nooo way in the vastness of space would they find the big chapppy. 😂
anyone else ever think that those glass bottles that hold the black goo look like a super refreshing drink? it prob tastes like Bawls energy drink
Probably does less damage than most of these energy drinks these days. I know I’d choose a little mutation over aggressive throat ulcers.
lol. Yeah dude. I mean I hope it’s carbonated
So there isn’t a security team monitoring the station ? So after the explosion of the main ship someone came to investigate it and that’s how they found the xenomorph.
Big Chap's body is found in deep space, he's NOT alive. The body is taken to space station Romulus, the scientists manage to extra and reverse engineer his DNA to recreate the black goo from which a new creature is born, then all hell breaks loose. That's how I've heard it anyway.
Apart from using Ian Holm’s likeness without his permission (even if his estate grants the licensed use), I’m in! Love pretty much everything Alien, and I’ll be there at the theatre without doubt. Thanks for the info, very helpful 👍✨
The fact they recovered Big Chap but left Ripley would put Aliens into an all new & possibly even more humbling context….. That she was indeed left to just float in space…… Maybe that’s what the Salaco was supposed to do before it crashed on Fury 161. Man, the implications & stories that can come from that!
Remember, the xeno was top priority. All of the crew were expendable. No doubt that there were another space ship or two out there to go grab the xeno should something happen.
@@lordvlygar2963 Oh for sure! But to put that spin on it (that it was intentional, no witnesses) vs just focusing on getting the xenomorph puts an even worse spin on the company that makes even the expanded universe look different. But in a good way.
@@lordvlygar2963 If this turns out to be true then we have truly gone from the sublime to the ridiculous to the just plain fucking retarded. For starters the xenomorph was incinerated in the Narcissus engines. And secondly the chance of finding the xenomorphs body in the vastness of space would make finding a needle in a haystack look easy. I know the Alien franchise has become a convoluted, no such thing as canon, make it up as you go along clusterfuck but this idea is about as stupid as making the space jockey a WWE wrestler in a funky spacesuit. ALIEN like most other movie franchises these days is now just a steaming dog turd. I saw the original in 79. I will always love that film. Such a shame what garbage it’s become.
This film will be no different.
Sorry but I had to laugh about finding the original Alien floating in space, that's like finding one needle on a haystack the size of our planet. Jokes aside i hope they do some connection to Prometheus and Covenant as someone said below we need closure I was so looking forward to Alien Awakening Thanks Nick.💯👊🏾
Yea that part sounds too convenient
Yeah it sounds completely daft to me
@@WhosNick It sounds stupid. I think they are going the route of Alien Isolation - older era which can tie some cameos, atmosphere and sentiment.
well, if they can find the debris field for the Nostromo, won't the alien be close?
I see it as WY being just out of view in the background. They had a few back-up plans to make sure they got that xeno. It's absolutely ridiculous to be all cloak and dagger when they can just go straight for it, but they wouldn't be the big-bad if they didn't. Just like Umbrella in the Resident Evil games; logistically bombastic and stupid to go about testing viruses the way they do, yet they somehow are always 5 minutes away after the climax of the games.
HOW can the black goo have been reverse-engineered from the OG xenomorph if it was discovered on an Engineer ship BEFORE the original film? Before the classic xeno's even existed, according to Covenant?
Goddamn, hearing that it has ANY type of connection to either Prometheus or covenant is HORRIFYING.
GET RIDLEY SCOTT’S HAND OFF THE IP
This news has just defeated my hope for this movie to be any damn good.
I hope that it has no connection to David, F that
Bingo!
Thank you for launching right into the synopsis instead of blathering on and on about ALL the other iterations on ALL the forums and outlets etc.
That kinda stuff can be very confusing for some of us old ones.
The Star Wars franchise has been so fragmented and "bastardized" that I lost track several years ago, and the same thing has happened to "Alien".
I recognize your voice Nick what other sites have you worked on, Seems like the Prometheus and Alien Covenant days I was listening to you everyday at another site?
I don't know. What is going on?
would have been more sense to use lance henriksen as rook as he still alive and was bishop, all chess piece names
There's just something very special to the way Ridley makes Alien movies, i'm sceptical about a relative unknown or "run of the mill" director doing it
100 %
You are wrong the past alien movies and other ppl besides Ridley . The more recent Alien movies were mainly Ridley such as Prometheus and covenant and fans are mixed about both those movies .
@@richardwalker6004 you sound like an A.I. algorithm.
Fede Alvarez has made some decent movies. I really liked his Evil Dead movie, and his slasher Don’t Breathe wasn’t bad for what it was. I’ve got some faith in him.
@@bucknasty69 you should have faith in God.
But what will the rating be on this movie?! And who will be in the next movie?! 😮
This sounds like a cross between Prometheus, Alien & Aliens like in the comics i can't wait for the trailer
Don't you dare fucking compare these trash movies to the Better comics when in the Better comics we see Different versions of Xenomorphs, Alien King, Xenomorph Prime planet and others.
@matt-tf2ob You're tweaking 😂 if you haven't noticed some of the elements of those movies are in the Alien comics from Dark Horse & Marvel goofy 😂
The comics are better than these trash movies for Fans want to see more of the Mythology with the Predators and Aliens just like for a AVP Live-Action TV Series we could see Humans working with Predators and also wearing armor suits.@@chination1796
Hope Alien: Romulus is good and makes sense within existing lore.
IMM, the hologram displaying the event/cataclysm on LV-223 (in Prometheus) is the same event which forced the derelict ship to crash on LV-426. So the Engineers created the Xenomorphs which appeared in Alien and Aliens, and the derelict ship crashed a thousand years before the Nostramo crew found it.
In Alien: Covenant, David created his own variant and is still tweaking it to make his own Xenomorphs. To that end the human colony on Oregai 6 is going to be David's Xenomorph hive instead.
It’s interesting choice to introduce another “ Ash” model android, and it kinda makes sense that Waylon Yutani is currently utilizing in this time frame.
I'll catch it on streaming. If it's even mildly decent, I'll be surprised..
Sounds great to me ❤
I remember reading those Alien comic books from years ago 1990-1993, now there being made into movies 🎥 but hopefully they will pull this off in a big way!
Any idea when the teaser will release?
RIGHT NOW!!!!
I think David engineering the final form of the xenomorphs should require him being the first host. The aliens have looked very organic and didn’t have that bio mechanical look from the originals.
David’s observation and drive about he being superior to humans and he wanting to create and surpass his own creator would make for the perfect reason for him deciding the last step in creating the perfect organism is to add his own mechanical nature to it.
Brilliant idea 👍
They appear biomechanical by design but they aren't synthetic beings so it doesn't work.
This whole origin story is such a mess.
David did/does not engineer the Xenomorphs. So many people get this wrong. He experimented on various combinations of xeno/human hybrids.
I thought that's where a sequel after Covenant would go. The Engineers would seek revenge on David, and at some point, he would get infected by a facehugger and give birth to the biomechanical version we're familiar with. Perhaps a queen.
@@Chef_Alpo The thing is, the black goo seems to be able to create technology. The derelict ship was likely grown from it. I don't think it's a stretch for it to be able to interact with David's body, especially if the Engineers returned to make it happen. Androids seem to have a synthetic-yet-organic design.
I want more from the prometheus covenant timeline
What if the planet is Origae-6?
Exactly what I thought
8:10. Damn, I don't remember seeing those in Covenant. Is that picture altered?
Imagine being the child of a passed actor. The confusion, & pain.
I don't have a problem with it. I like to think of it as a tribute to the dead actor who's character is lore in the Alien stories. I imagine it will be a nice surprise for the next gen of people watching Alien for the first time (through watching the new movie) to want to watch the whole series from the beginning and see where the android's origins were (I'm a sucker for stuff like that myself)
I love the alien films but why do they always have to follow the same template. Evil android, female hero etc.
Just thinking that. It doesn’t always have to be the lone strong female
Well, the initial reason that females where front and center was do the psycho- sexual aspect of the aliens design and its manner of reproduction, having a women be focal,as well as focus in general was just to echo the dynamic nature and comparisons of biology \procreation. Its underlying reason women are front and center , because of their inherent role as being the gender that gives birth..the alien takes that notion and throws a twist of body horror into things that otherwise might not be as impactful
@@johnscott6481that’s just misandrist nonsense. Men are victimized just as much and more. Thinking that the alien is horror for women is a self-report.
My issues isn't a female hero. Its how they are written and developed.
@@3IRDDY right.if it's good it's good.
I cant wait for this, but I also remember a short story in the audio book Bug hunt where Bishop comes across a re-programmed version of his model named Rook that was helping a terrorist group. I wonder if this lines up at all.
The fact this franchise is Disney bums me out….. they have ruined every IP they acquired. I don’t have much hope for this movie.
Sorry to get all internet neckbeard on you, buuut the franchise was at a low point before Disney bought it. This movie is going to see if Disney can bring it out of that pit.
Listen, just get Mickey Mouse in a power loader saying "Haha! Get away from her, you bitch!" fighting xenomorphs. Stop overthinking it and just give the audience fun.
Roger Corman used to do it all the time.
@@lordvlygar2963 debatable
@@lordvlygar2963 It's an unpopular opinion, but I actually loved Prometheus. Alien Covenant, not so much. Now that I have seen the trailer, it looks great, and I hope that it's really good.
@@bambino100011 Isn't Alien Covenant closer to the original Alien than Covenant just like the upcoming Romulus?
Bringing back big chap just seems creatively bankrupt. They establish in multiple movies the alien dislikes heat and flame. Conventional, orange flame temperature flamethrowers can kill them. You are telling me even a brief exposure to the main thrusters of a space ship would not destroy it? I feel like if they had the special effects capability in Alien they would have shown it disintegrating in that shot instead of just bright light and water drips. I would bet the script or novelization describes it as such. At that point, they would basically have to find cells in space to clone it. Which is finding something incredibly small in something incredibly big.
We return to the first ALIEN (1979) we take the Black material from PROMETHEUS and the ALIEN Alibinos from ALIEN COVENANT, DAvid an Android surely present. We are impatiently awaiting the Trailer.
Only trash losers are excited for this garbage movie.
Even with spooilers i'll go see the movie in the cinema anyway. because i care so much about this franchise, that i want to tell the producers that i would like someone to save it and course correct it.
If they are going to model the new heroine after Ripley, she is going to have big shoes to fill. Ripley was never a warrior, she just did what she had to do in the moment. In the first she was basically scared shitless. The second, she was processing loss and redeeming herself as a mother. By the third, she realised ahe failed and was just done with everything. Her story arc is also tragic, because by the last appearance, she had become one with the very thing she was fighting.
You know what'd be different in these alien movies? A male protagonist, Jesus have they beat the feminist herion bs to death. What was great about Ripley is her story was believable.
AND she wasn’t a Mary sue, she was just ordinary and needed the machine to beat it! More believable than most of the women lead ones now that beat up waves of armed men lol without any struggle lol
Leaving out a woman as the lead is like leaving out the alien. It's tied to the whole alien universe. Might as well have it play out on a farm in Texas since that's where your opinion belongs.
@@GTChrisYou sound mentally unwell. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with a theoretical male protagonist and it would be just as good. Let me guess, you think only women are victims.
Her story was original and one of the very first female protagonist. Everything these days has overblown the female protagonist. I agree! We need a great male protagonist. Alien franchise should bring it back. Give me a modern 80’s Mel Gibson, or Bruce Willis type male protagonist.
I agree. My issue isn't having a female protagonist, its just how they write and develop them is the issue. Makes all the difference.
How can WY possibly locate the xenomorph drifting in space from the original film, when Romulus takes place before ALIENS in which Ripley tells WY about it for the first time?
They already knew about the Alien. Ash already knows about it
I never believed the early stories that this film would ignore the prequels. I didn’t see how Ridley Scott could’ve so positively endorsed the film (as he apparently did) if it had ignored them. Some interesting ideas . I just hope it doesn’t turn out incoherent, and a fan service mish mash of different fragments from each previous film. Disney have some form doing that sort of thing. Someone also raised a question about the age of the cast - just how much depth will the characters have, all being so young? It’s a pretty common trope in trashy horror to use young characters as canon fodder, and one of the things that made Alien so powerful was the way the characters reacted to the unfolding crisis they found themselves in. I’m not sure a young cast could pull off something similar.
My personal movie canon for Alien is: Alien, Aliens, Prometheus, and Alien: Covenant. All of the other movies including the Predator crossovers I consider little side hustles pieces of entertainment that I thought were OK and usually enjoyed but NOT canon to the overall story. I have never read any of the books or comics so those don't factor into my personal view of the Alien world. I do see how other completely unrelated stories like Blade Runner or Outland (1981 Sean Connery, great movie) could be a part of the Alien world. Blade Runner shows what earth probably looked like around the time of Alien and explores synthetics in human society. Outland is explores the gritty world of heavy industry and mining in space in the future. The Nostromo could have been coming from a mining facility like the one depicted in Outland. Outland in particular has a very strong Alien vibe even though there are no aliens of any type in the plot. I think some of the vibe connecting Alien and Outland is due to the fact that Jerry Goldsmith composed and produced BOTH movie soundtracks! Set design and lighting is also very familiar when comparing the two films. Anyway, I just think those are potentially interesting connections or visions of an expanded Alien canon.
Blade Runner cannot take place in the same universe as Alien as the Weyland-Yutani corporation is never shown _existing_ in Blade Runner's world despite been planet's most powerful and renowned corporation in the world with patents and businesses delving in robotics, space mining and military applications as revealed by Ripley when she mentions their "weapons division" in Alien. If WeyYu existed in Blade Runner you would expect their close involvement in the construction of replicants yet we never hear or see anything which suggests they do so i wouldn't count on Blade Runner been part of the same universe.
Alien3 and Resurrection are canon.
I actually think from a story,quality aspect, canon in order would be alien* alien isolation* aliens* Prometheus* and alien covenant which I think gets a bad rap..
Based besides Blade Runner.
Why would weapons/technology that is chronologically 'older' have newer features? I get the idea of, 'new to the audience', but if it looks more modern and or/functions better than the in-universe newer guns, that won't make much sense.
If we're going back in the past... I'm holding out hope for another Sigourney movie too.
So, what happend with David on Origae 6?
I think we will never find out.
I like that they are going to bring Ian Holms character back.
Basically I'm just searching for anything that has the same feeling as Alien and Aliens.
We'll see how it goes
This was supposed to be a standalone feature independent of the prequel titles?
Weird that they would make more androids who look like Ash... The original crew of the Nostromo didn't know Ash was an android... "Ash is a damn ROBOT!" They were shocked when they found out. But, if there are multiple androids who look exactly like Ash running around, why WOULDN'T they know? If the Ash Model is common, it increases the odds that they would be familiar with him and KNOW he was an android immediately. Plus, in Alien, Bishop comments on how terrible Ash's model was. "The A2s always were a bit twitchy. That could never happen now with our behavioral inhibitors..." Why would they continue to use that model? Is Alien Romulus a prequel? Did it take place BETWEEN Alien and Aliens? It has to have happened AFTER Alien, if they caught the alien floating in space... What's the deal?
Good point! Why is it so hard to make an Alien movie that is consistent and coherent?
@@PontificusPinion studio interference, lack of knowledge and lack of carer
And here I thought this movie was supposed to be its own thing, a stand-alone story in the franchise. I honestly don't know how I feel about Romulus being tied-in with the original "ALIEN" (Which feels like an unnecessary connection), and I absolutely despise the idea of there being a tie-in with "Alien Covenant". If there was ever a movie that showed how Ridley Scott's success with "ALIEN" probably came as much if not more from the people he worked with as anything else, "Alien Covenant" would be it.
I'd much rather "Alien Romulus" remain its own thing with its own "unique" story (At least as unique as you can get rehashing the same tired tropes over and over...).
*yawn
yes ridleys stupid ideas got reigned by producers and the writers. the ending he wanted to do was the alien killing riply and imitating her voice at the end and everyone else said"NOPE", he was a great visuel adventurous artist but even that is missing in his later movies.
I'm fine with it being either a sequel to the original Alien, with the Company having found Ripley's xenomorph and used it to clone a bunch of aliens or facehuggers (but without the black goo from Prometheus); or a sequel to Covenant set before or after the OG, with the scientists having found and experimented with the black goo. Mixing elements of those two concepts doesn't work for me, though, as it just further complicates the already muddied continuity of the franchise.
@@TonyB2279well I’m pretty sure the black goo is just the dna for the xenomorph
Well, Covenant's protomorph is an easier find. And those Romulus fingers look like the Protomorphs. I like Covenant and Prometheus.
So, you're not gonna credit AvpGalaxy as the source for all your info?
Linked them in the description, and I’m close with the guys that run the site
How did they find the big chap when they didnt know where the Nostromo was detonated and if they did space is big how did they find the bug in that massive vacuum of space... also according to the book based on the screen play the big chap exploded from the rigors of the vacuum of space. How did they know the ship blew up when this takes place after Alien but Before Aliens? Why would WY have xenos and then be so obsessed with getting them during the events of Aliens and Alien Resurrection where they cloned them from the residue of Ripley's bio scan and tests... where she some how had the complete dna of the queen alien too... but its all mixed up (one the convoluted reasons I didnt like Alien Regurgitation... I mean resurrection.) They will have to do some serious story telling gymnastics to explain their ability to locate basically a man sized creature that they didnt even actually know was aboard that was floating across light years of space... (or perhaps somehow they did know the xeno was aboard...) The Nostromo had entered FTL when the crew had to deal with The Big Chap... so I supposed they could try to trace the lines from LV426 or if they had transmission of the Nostromos flight path they could draw a line and look along that line but its still light years, and the ship exploded pushing things around in the local space...it is still a needle in the haystack search. I certainly hope the heroine in this movie is not a mary sue... like Rey... and many other woke cinematic disasters and assaults on genre established IP. I have no problem with strong female characters as long as they too have endured the heroes journey... Ripley, Princess Leia, Sarah Connor, and more recently Black Widow who has a detailed backstory... She has to have a background and not one laden with plot armor contrivances... FOX should scrap alien 3 and 4 and dismiss the abysmal prequels that destroy the mythos of the creature much like the Midichlorians did for the Force.... Give us a solid sequel to Alien and Aliens which would literally make this the 3 actual installment. That however would have required the presence of Sigourney Weaver and Michael Biehn.... Wait they have them lined up years ago and the preproduciton was under way for an alien movie with them years after Aliens... and it would have passed the torch off to an Adult Newt (rumors abound who was going to play her...) So many really well thought out books/novels and they writing teams and director just chuck the baby out with the bathwater... We will see if Alien: Romulus is decent... perhaps it fell thru the cracks like Predator: Prey did... and we get a very entertaining story that does not further ruin the cannon.
I could do without the Prometheus connection. I'd rather just forget about those two turds.
Loving the connection to the OG though.
There are plenty of hungry and talented actors out there. These studios gotta pay their talent
It sounds like it's based on one of the books, mainly "THE COLD FORGE," but the timeline may not be correct. Also, will it have the space communists?
Well they found Ripley floating in the Narcissus rescue pod after 50 years. So hey anything is possible in the Alien universe.
…. That was a ship, dude… it probably had a location finding systems and it was probably headed towards earth automatically.. then communications/ sent out signals and such…
Totally different when you have a random object in space getting tossed in a random random direction that is tiny as hell … I don’t know if you’ve ever seen how vast spaces but this is just ridiculous that they would even write that
It'd be refreshing if they actually had a lead male " bad ass" character in an Alien film for once( that isn't killed off screen inbetween films). They seem to be fixated on repeating the success of the Ripley character with other simular leads in the Alien franchise, by having a female character being the main focus of literally every single Alien film that's been made..including AVP, while it worked perfectly with Sigourney weaver due to he great performances in the original films, it hasn't been matched by any of the stand in "Ripley" characters that have appeared in the many sequels/reboots.
I mean, who says a male lead would be any more successful?
The Alien series has had three pretty great protagonists (or supporting leads, as the case may be): Ripley, Bishop and David from Prometheus and Covenant. Seems like they're actually overdue for another memorable female protagonist.
As long as the characters are relatable they can have a male or female, I don't care. They can't do much worse than the prequels character-wise.
long as the David connection is played out because i really would like to see how the colonists got on after David got aboard the covenent and if he kept daniels alive or not but that would be too over the edge Scott really knew how to tie down people in a state of helplessness and allow the bad guys to win
after the ending for raised by wolfs season 2 you kinda see what the meta narative was a mother being incapable of saving themselevs or their children ec.
So this actually takes place *after* Alien?
Roughly 20 years after
I love the alien franchise like I really love it. However they need to really change up the equation.
Like female protag, ambiguous android (may or not be bad, normally bad), trying to connect to previous installments.
They should take some inspiration from the books. It’s a big galaxy, pick some place unconnected. The xeno origins were always indistinct and mysterious. Make the protag male or make em an android. Just do something, take a risk stop trying to use the same equation.
Alien 3 is probably when that equation expired. Change it up and make a new story.
If the engineer’s iconography any clue, the xeno been around for a long time in one form or another. That means it doesn’t need to connect to lv-426 or Prometheus/covenant.
is there any chance Engineers could show in this movie?
Very unlikely, but it's very likely they will have some sort of Easter egg I don't think the studio has closed the door for them just yet they might bring them in the future but the current studio is Disney now, so get prepared for "political correct" engineers.
So basically the same sh*t all over again. Trying to push continuation with old movies, because they capitalize on sentiment. Do you understand guys, that If the "alien" is the same one from the 79 it means there's no narrative closure for Ripley for the first movie? And heroine like Ripley again? Really? Again? They've tried it with Daniels and it was cringe. Can Hollywood make original movies like it did in the old era?
I would bet that there will be a brother secret research facility somewhere in this movie Universe called Remus, where they are breeding red Aliens👍
Not sure if this is real, but it sounds pretty cool.
1:11 Well, well...someone left the a/c running!
The really sad part is Alien Isolation was such a good game and story and they've yet to make it a movie. Smh
As far as the likeness goes for the android it's cool because the actor will never know and in the end it doesn't even matter. 😸
Why cant someone just leak the test screening 🙄
I just want them to bring it back to the original and Isolation vfibe, One solo earlier evolved stage Xenomorph threat.. Make it more menacing fast brutal and stealthy.
Oh man. You had Alien: Covenant and The Predator spoiled for you? Lucky…
Its respecting and showing the original actor homage for the role they created, as long as its done well and tastefully shouldn't be a problem!
The black goo never acted different, it is pretty easy to understand if a brain is used
i dunno i think all that sounds awesome
I hope there are some neomorphs or similar Xenomorphs in this.
Actually sounds good.
Always leaving the laundry detergent on the playground.
Why not just use bishop? The company should have been well into making the bishop model if it sets in the middle of the timeline.
I too was disappointed with the whole Ian Holm AI stand in. Freddy Alvarez should have just got Martin Freeman to play a younger version of Ash/Rook
Would’ve been really cool!
As long as we don't get a Marysue character leading the way, then maybe it might be good!? 🤞🏻
Wait. They somehow find the alien that Ripley shot out of the shuttle, then fried with the blast from the ships engine ? Somehow floating around in infinite space for how many years, and they manage to revive it or something?
No fckn way.
My idea for a third alien covenant/prometheus movie is as follows:
The engineers are the main characters in the movie and comes to the planet that was in the Prometheus movie.
There they find Weyland inside the crashed spaceship. They have a blue elixir which they empty all over him and bring him to life.
But while doing this the Deacon from the Prometheus movie sneaks into their spaceship and hide it self in one of the ventilation chambers.
In the next part they arrive at the planet from alien covenant and find the other robot(Walter) who is david's twin.The engineers use the blue elixir and repairs him.
Once awaken the engineers and Weyland get to know all the horrible things that David has done, and weyland says "we have to stop David" .
They set course for origae. When they arrive,they scans all the planet,and finds the planet is full of hostile organisms except
on a high mountain where they discover that there are humans inside a cave.
Inside the cave they meet a herd of children, who tell that when they had lived on the planet for over ten years,
they began to be attacked by Xenomorphs and all the adults died or were turned into these creatures.
There were also great giants developed by someone the children calls David.
The engineers get ready to wipe out all the Xenomorphs that David has created, but the great giants manage to escape with one of the engineers' spaceships.
The engineers and Weyland hunts the spaceship and manage to force the spaceship down on the planet lv426.Where it start sending a distress signal.
The engineers return to Origae to find David, but discover that he has escaped.
In the last part we see David arriving and meeting an unknown alien species
on a tropical like planet.
At the same time Nostromo leaves a nearby planet with the cargo of ore.
But when he and the unknown aliens have left the spaceship,the deacon slips out of the ship and is seen running toward the nearest settlement.
And that makes the cliffhanger that ends the third movie.
The ending movie could have a duration about five hours ?
It wasn’t a distress signal, it was a warning. :-)
@@JoLap42 Why do you think so ? Does it make any difference ?
So for all of these new movies, they start with what we know and love and then “change it”. It usually just comes out as messing with the perfection of the first two films. We’ll see I guess. I’m more interested in Noah Hawleys Alien series.
Did you use to narrate videos for a different channel? Got this bizarre feeling I've heard you talk about the Alien movies before, but am new to this channel
Yes I made videos for Hybrid Network/HN Entertainment back in the days of Covenant
@@WhosNick glad to have found you again!
The droids name is, Rook?? 🙄
Sounds a bit like Cold Forge.
They need to make Predator, Alien and AVP Movies, TV Series and Animated Movies Based on the Better Dark Horse comics for who cares about human characters explore more of the Mythology.
They should come across the Prometheus and that’s where they find the Xenos . That wld connect everything .
We still don’t know David’s fate