Alien Romulus - THEORY TIME - Big Chap's Cocoon Vessel
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Welcome to my theory on Big Chap making his return to Alien Romulus in a cocooned state involving certain methods I explain in the video. Remember, these are just theories and fun in the build up to the films release. Hope you enjoy.
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Tom Skerrit character "DALLAS" Muttering "KILL ME....KILL ME.." Still gives me goosebumpss.
The agony in his voice conveys the pain of the process.
It's hard to imagine what pain he is in as his body is slowly being dissolved. But I actually said the same thing last night in much the same torturous way when I tried to watch the new Star Wars Acolyte show....
It reminds me of sleep paralysis. I get it sometimes when I cry out for help I can barely move my mouth
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE whoa!
@@manfmalachi don't watch the sleep paralysis documentary on Netflix if you also have this, it's pretty terrifying. I've had it a few times but the doc shows the demonic figures standing at the end of their beds etc.
I have a feeling Big Chap is going to become BIGGER Chap in this film. Some of the promo images show him looking a bit different, especially in the teeth. I have a feeling we didn't see him fully grown yet in ALIEN. He is coming out of a sort of cocoon, so change is expected.
@@OldWorldRadio2 not fully grown is an interesting idea. Hard to fathom how creepier he would be if he was larger 🫣
Chapzilla?
Idk. Big chap was THE grandady so to speak. He was perfect (says Ash) and my favorite Alien from all the films. In Aliens they were just cannon fodder. Could it have made the cocoon with the stuff he made Dallas and Brett into eggs? I hope it does have a connection to the first movie and it has some mention of what happened to David. Sorry but I loved his story in the prequel films. Idk if it's deliberate but the indb cast list is small. Maybe Fassbender will have a small cameo showing the end of the David story. I hope so.
@@HegoDamaskll sneaking in Fassbender and keeping it under wraps would be a miracle in itself and well worth the excitement haha
Just don't go in to watch Romulus with a mindset that you'll be disappointed if this isn't the case. Big chap may well be present, but more as a cameo concept than a pivotal role. Alvarez has stated all along this is a new, stand-alone film, not a continuation of Alien.
I dare to theorize that WY knew exactly what was going on on the Nostromo and the Narcissus. They also knew the trajectory of the Narcissus...and therefore the approximate direction of the xeno. There's nothing impossible about that...mathematical surface calculation. It even makes sense that they found the xeno before Ripley, since the Narcissus traveled a much greater distance than the drifting alien due to its mechanical propulsion...
💯 with the last part of your comment for sure. As for the rest, I'm in agreement which is why I loved making the vid so much 😉👍
i agree with what you have said, however there is also another golden nugget. this film will have connections to most of the movies in the franchise. meaning promeathus and covenant connections. which if there are connections. could possibly elude to wy sending the nostromo to lv-426 in the first place. the only thing i still cannot figure out is how all the eggs were in the derelict spacecraft in the original alien movie.
It is fascinating just how much of the Alien's abilities( from this franchise) are still very mysterious, especially after all this time. So the idea that it could have a way to cocoon itself as protection, and go into a kind of deep sleep until some very unfortunate people stumble across it, seems like the sort of thing that - "The Perfect Organism" would /could do. I also watched many of these films as a kid. Great memories.👍
Scriptwriters can and will invent new characteristics for every new film, even if they contradict previous films. It's not like they set everything in stone in 1979 and they've been revealing it bit by bit over the sequels.
Anything should be possible but I hope they are careful not to include silliness and contradictions into the franchise.
Exactly, let's hope they do it right.👍
Andysmith?....yeah I know, but my point being that I could believe that the Alien could possibility have the ability to cocoon itself as protection even though it hasn't been shown yet in any of the other films. But if course it has to be done well, for audiences to accept it.
We've never seen their full life cycle as they've always been killed not long after birth
I watched this when I was 7-8 as well. I’m now a horror movie junkie (but most of all, an Alien fan)….in my 30s.
Glad to hear and I assume you turned out ok just like me? 😜. I'm 40 and I just assume kids are too sheltered these days perhaps. Honestly though, I was more fascinated than scared at 8 years old. I think I found Bambi more upsetting when the mother died...
Hell yeah! 6 when I saw Alien. The bit with Dallas in the vent scared the shit outta me!
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE yeah I’m totally good. I’m going to be 40 this year, so it seems like we both had similar childhoods in that respect hahaha. I’m totally going to get my son into horror. He’s 2 and one of his first stuffed animals was a stuffed Xenomorph 🤣
He’s also already seen about every single Star Wars movie- and paid attention! They’re not exactly “horror” but there was a lot of intense action- so I can only hope he will be ready for true horror at a young age like I was 🤣 (I recall watching Freddy Krueger movies and IT when I was really young, too….)
@@lisachaffee2946 best of luck introducing horror films to your son. Maybe wait a few years though 🤣🤣🤣. I also watched the Freddie Kruger films and had the art book as well. I found those more disturbing as they were intended to shock us with gore. Still funny to know that was my first time watching the brilliant Johnny Depp in that first film.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE yeah we’re waiting till he’s at least in first grade 🤣
We do “scary” Halloween, so I’m curious to see how he will do with that through the years, too 🤣
*SPOILERS* from leaks and one who watched it before they added VFX:
*SPOILERS*
Big chap is obtained in a fossilized form (the "rock" entering the hangar bay) cut open (movie picture with the hazmat suits moving the opened rock with the Big Chap on it) and the black pathogen (from Prometheus/Covenant) is extracted from it. The scientists then begin experimenting with the black substance and grow pods in incubation chambers developing facehuggers. The personnel onboard the station get facehugged (this is before our protagonists arrive) and chestbursted, leading into xenos inhabiting areas of the station.
Thanks for adding the spoiler tags at the top buddy. Hmm, do you mean you watched it or someone you read about?
I really like the idea of Big Chap being recovered and in a cocoon form. BUT finding him out in deep space would be near impossible. The salvage crew from Aliens was damn lucky to find Ripley, with most-likely the Narcissus having a homing beacon. My 2 cents.
Yeah the odds are not even worth thinking about, are they? It's a fun theory if they manage to justify finding him in an intelligent manner but we'll see what happens. I love that the film is making us think so much about it.
This is where I'm at with this. If there's any sense of reality, the odds of finding that cocoon floating around out there would be essentially impossible. It only makes sense if they write in some mechanic where big chap tethered itself to the Narcissus, and WY recovered it along with the ship and Ripley. Whatever ship this new crew boards with the eggs, also has that cocoon and somehow the facehuggers trigger it to open?
@@WHCAudio I'm literally writing my next vid about a theory involving the cord from the grappling gun acting as a tether and becoming a towing vessel for the creature. I guess similar minds think alike 🤣. The more I get into it, the more things come to light. Damm this is fun...
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE My homie Larry and I were just talking about it. The crew that discovered the Narc would have to be written as secretly working for WY with the goal of finding the alien. Ripley was just a bonus. Some things don't line up, but it would explain why whatever ship has the eggs and cocoon.
@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Actually I just watched the end of Alien again. It's pretty definitive that it wasn't tethered. Shows Ripley watching to be sure, too. So idk, it's a stretch.
This would mean there's an alien queen floating around in space and AVP's queen at the bottom of the ocean, both waiting.
It's possible 👍
That’s a scary thought that’s cannon.
The Queen is not canon
@@andreilukyanov4286 🤔
@@andreilukyanov4286only alien and aliens is Canon
No it doesn't make sense that a tracking device was on the hook!
Is like having a airtag on my fishing rod so If I lose it I can search the entire ocean until I find it!!
HAHAHA! I love the analogy. This is why I felt the rumours were digging a little too deep to make sense!
That wasnt my impression of the idea. More as something you'd use in space salvaging, like if there are debris and trying to recover something you have a tracker activated in case you lose it. Like if a prize fish gets hooked but escapes you can always track down the fish.
@@gensoustudio4703that's logical mate
That space rock in the chamber is the big chap in a coccooned state 😮
That's my theory, although I could be wrong 🤔
Yup, after hearing the early big chap rumors I definitely think that is the cocoon
Totally
Yeah man!
Also makes me wonder who will come across the queen cocoon, floating around in space. 🤔
I believe it is not beyond Weyland-Yutani's means to find Big Chap. The Narcissus flight data records, which could easily be accessed remotely, would likely play a large part in narrowing down the sector of space it is in. Also, the grappling gun does NOT have trackers FFS.
But I wonder if the flight records also transmit it's data, otherwise they would only have been discovered 57 later in Aliens.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I have no doubt that WY would have done what any company would do, especially after the destruction of one of their M-Class Starfreighters. They likely collected any and all data from the Narcissus as fast as the technology and distance would allow.
Not one mention of David where is he???
I would love to know if Ridley asked Fede to link Romulus somehow with his precious David.
h.r. giger said early on that the alien had a life cycle of only days, strange that it would have cocooned itself after ripley blew it out into space , it was already turning darker and dying in the first film, in fact it crawled into the machinery of the shuttle to die, the only reason it came after ripley is because she blasted it with that high pressure gas , it would have been dead soon anyway
I think the water gets a bit murky with the lore after Giger. I love what he gave us but I also respect the directors and writers have to add their own input etc. maybe the cocoon cycle replenishes their life?
Oh, Big Chap.. the one that got away, along with the Queen.
Alien Isolation’s Web Series (yes, I watched it) actually showed xenomorphs in a state of hibernation floating on debris. So, “the perfect organism” may have survived
The game had a web series? Fan content or promotional stuff for the game?
I know Romulus takes place between Alien and Aliens. Some reported plots of Big Chap being recovered in the form of a cocoon. Going to be very interesting to see how everything unfolds. So far the only connections to Prometheus and Alien Covenant we’ve seen in the trailers has been the android holding the black goo in the blue light and the face huggers developed outside the egg in some sort of plastic like the ones David snuck on board at the end of Covenant. Very curious if Weyland experiments on Big Chap by using the black goo increasing its height and strength. We could potentially see David and Ash’s work in the film. Another rumor I’ve heard is a possible CGI canon of Ash which would be awesome. Ash could’ve sent something to mother or back to headquarters right before he attacks Ripley. Last if big Chap can cocoon and survive in space then that means the queen from Aliens can do the same. God bless the writer who came up with this prequel idea for Romulus.
At least you seem to be excited about this turn of events for Romulus. I hope whatever they do, it's written well. It will be very interesting if they used goo on big chap for sure.
Space is big. REALLY big. The chances of snagging either creature in space would be improbably high. Like, virtually impossible. While if done properly, bringing back Big Chap could be great, I have my serious doubts. Modern movies, especially sequels, for the most part have been rubbish lately.
Oh my bad.. I always forget to look at the dates 😂
The cocoon thing makes perfect sense, but the shedding image I reckon is the new xenomorph that came out of the bald girl. Seeing the chest burster to adult shedding process for the first time.
You could be right as it is something we haven't seen as of yet. I would argue that moulting wouldn't be as grand looking as this shit but who knows. It did have a newly formed exoskeleton as it emerges.
It could be (Molting Scene) we have never seen on screen the Xenomorph between Chest Burster and Adult Stage, and so it could be very possible that that Shredding Scene could be the Molting Stage to Adult
true that we have never seen this...but wasn't there talk about an adolescent Xenomorph in Alien³ -- the one who attacks Murphy....not that they showed us much
@@SenneSoli not sure... maybe in one of the many drafts for Alien 3?
Yep
1. ive never heard anyone suggest that Dallas was meant to be the host, but would explain why he was taken alive (tho not why he looked like he was morphing) and is a great explanation for that
2. i dont think alvarez will consider anything before Alien as canon for this film from what i've heard from him
3. i cant imagine a reason why they'd put a tracking device in a grappling hook, and to suggest that as an excuse as to how they could find big chap seems lazy and a bit insulting to the audience
3. i think an explanation that we may all be overlooking to those facehuggers is that theyre taken from the derilict on lv426 .... it would explain why there are so many
Dallas was covered in an egg shape so it is just my theory for whatever it's worth but there always needs to be a host as we know. If there existed some director commentary on those deleted scenes then I would be over the moon haha! Otherwise, great points buddy
If you’re doing maintenance outside your space ship and you have the grappling hook as a backup tool if your safety line snaps. It would make sense to have a tracking system on it to rescue and locate the person floating in space
The tracking device is just a stupid idea. Folks are floating it around for the reason Big Chap was found in Romulus. IF Alvarez does this I am officially OUT. Alien 3 was BAD, and Resurrection was stupid, too(read the og script and it's bad, too.)
@@JasonMoore-m8j I have a better theory video coming out in 2 hours. It might cause some contention among fans but I think it makes more sense than a tracking device. It involves the Narcissus lifeboat vessel that Ripley escaped in and why it might make an appearance in Romulus, especially as it can be seen in the trailer if you zoom in 😲
big chap returning is not interesting to me, its not necessary and i cant imagine how it would enhance the alien saga... when you have facehuggers you dont need to resurrect past aliens...having said that i dont know what that asteroid could be otherwise so i cannot really argue this theory
the more interesting thing to me is where did those facehuggers come from, because im a little tired of the 'genetic experiment' angle in alien... it was bad in resurrection and was bad in covenant imo...
The immergence of face hugger is more crucial. I agree with you on that. If you are going to resurrect the xeno, why resurrect face huggers first? You create the chicken, bit the egg!
If that’s big chap it’s essentially the same level fuck up as Rafael Andolini being a french trapper in Montana 1720
It may be that xenomorphs can change sex under harsh conditions. So maybe Big Chap turns into a new queen. Thus eggs and face huggers.
I'm down with that kind of idea. I always thought the whole "perfect organism" description could easily stretch to being stand alone adaptive given the right requirements etc.
Indeed. Us humans, we require each other to survive but a perfect organism is designed to survive on its own merit 👍
You guys want a spoiler??? The bad guy in this movie isssssssss: the cyborg!! (the black dude who says "run!" in the trailer - obviously a synthetic)
Why? cuz it almost always is when Ridley Scott is involved. Plus this movie takes place before Alien 2, where Bishop claims synthetics are now no longer able to harm humans. So this is possibly another wild synthetic like Ash.
This new synthetic probably picked up the order Ash was given + the data Ash probably uploaded after investigating the alien.
Ash might of placed a tracker on the Big Chap somehow too, this makes it very easy for the new synthetic to track it down, and sneak it in to the spaceship.
One more vibe/speculation: the scene where the black synthetic says "run" he's doing that to herd human to a certain direction that's gonna make it easier for him to achieve his (Weyland Yutani's) objectives.
In general it looks like this movie will have a lot less philosophical elements (nothing new outside of what Ridley created) and play more with the horror/action elements to the 80's 90's Hollywood perfection. Kinda like TopGun 2 Maverick?
Anways, CAN'T WAIT.
Interesting observation. This synthetic is definitely the lowest grade we've ever seen as he even walks like C3PO haha. He could well be only good for following company orders
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Yea! and in that trailer there is a scene where his eyes flips backwards, that could be the moment where he is being completely recoded to carry on the secret mission.
This speculation is one of the many gems that makes this particular film so eventworthy. Alvarez certainly has done his homework and he appears to be a FAN. Consequently Romulus could be a nice little teaser into more exposition by future movies. I'd like to see a variation on the premise by DelToro or Peele....the sky is the limit. If handled with some imagination and finesse. I have very high hopes for this presentation. Your overview and critique is very revealing....thanks for the pique of imagination...Kudos!
IF set up correctly, then the bringing in of other talented directors to flesh out further possibilities could be very rewarding for us fans. I would still love Blomkamp to be given his chance to tell the Aliens sequel he began but maybe it would just be better to move on. Thanks for the kind words good sir.
What they could've done was make a film based on Waland Yutani's reaction to Ash's transmission of landing on LV426. The company secretly had to know they made contact and Cain was infected. "They got their prize" so to speak.
I honestly believe that we will glimpse this in Romulus as part of how they found the specimen. I'm making another vid on an interesting theory based on the Narcissus escape vessel Ripley used how it relates to the new film. You actually see this vessel in the trailer during the station collision scene at the bottom right.
Space 1999 Dragons Domain episode started this zaniness, blame Chiellini for his quest. I believe that the jockey and alien are really HR Giegers "nuclear children " and Gieger fine tuned them.🤔👍
I'd love to visit Giger's museum house one day. A true legend that gave horror so much.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Switzerland, Gyuer, I lived in Germany in the 70s and visited Switzerland as a kid. He was a talented and crazy man, go check it out.🇺🇸🤠👍
I was 5 years old when I saw Aliens with my dad back in 1988. I fell right in love with it. I remember the facehuggers scared the loving day lights out of me. Aliens has become my favorite movie of all time and I can't wait to see how they expand the story in aliens Romulus. Great video. I love your theories
Thank you very much. We're about the same age although you might have seen it earlier than me 👏 I also excited to see what else they do with this franchise, even if there is a big risk of going wrong 🫣
I watched with my Dad when I was 7....it was so awesome 😊
@@amy259 Fantastic! The best age to be scared 😁
Same! I was born in '83 and saw Alien when I was 8! I was adopted at 8 and it was the first movie my new dad ever watched with me. I'd never seen a movie before that because of my shitty bio parents! I instantly feel in love with Alien! My dad was a huge Sci-Fi fan. I'm so insanely stoked for Romulus because it looks like a great return to form of the first 2! Can't fucking wait!
@@chrisreid7033 great way to bond with someone new by watching that film! Cool story and hope you enjoy it. Seeing Romulus on Friday mid-day and also beyond excited now.
We got the euros, to distract us 4 a month. Thank god.
You made think does every alien shot and killed in aliens actually not a kill maybe they will get back up later on like if that’s the case big chap took a. Harpoon rocket engine and then cocooned himself. We now would need to figure out their true weak spots
Me too, watched it when I was barely 8, with my brother, almost 10, ITV premier. My Ma loved science fiction and I also have a typing pool employee of hers, who with her own mother, said it would be okay for us to watch. Ma allowed, as long as she watched with us, just in case we got terrified.
We all loved it and it remains probably my most favourite movie. Here is the advert that someone so kindly uploaded:
ruclips.net/video/G15HrJS72Og/видео.htmlsi=_fZVhfTJ_IXavHH6
Also, more frightening to me were the adverts on British radio, upon release. God bless the person who recorded such fare:
ruclips.net/video/a23l_RMrJd0/видео.htmlsi=S8ySEJYZuCzazofP
I miss you so much, Ma.
Great to hear 👍. Damm thanks for sharing those old promotional adverts. They almost make it seem like a sci fi sitcom or something. It doesn't give any hint as to the pure terror that really exists in the film. Sounds like you had a great upbringing also buddy 👌
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE
Thanks for your kind words. I am glad The Dude abides.
A funny story, when it was released, my best friend came in the next morning, spouting how his dad had seen a film at the Cannon Cinema, Harrow. What entranced the whole class of six year olds, was the fact a creature burst from a man’s stomach. He did not know the title, as he was straining to hear the conversation through his bedroom floor. I had swimming lessons at the Harrow Leisure Centre that night and promised to read the foyer poster, as my mother drove past. The next morning all my friends ran up to me and asked me what the film was called, to which I proudly said,
“Alan.”
I could be just an asteroid they are mining for.
If it is the big chap, i think from some of the shots it may have, or will, molt into a queen
Romulus and Remus people - Either dictating that there’s going to be 2 types of fully grown xenomorphs in this movie. Big chap and the new fully grown xeno morph that we’re seeing in the trailer. It’s stated by a film maker that’s seen the movie that big chap is not in the trailers at all besides the asteroid part. The xeno that we are seeing in the trailers is the birth of the new xeno variant. The trailer is also heavily edited by the studio and a lot of stuff has been edited out in the scenes. There will be plenty of twist stated in this movie. Romulus and Remus could also have a double meaning in this movie - As there are also 2 androids in this movie - Rook and Andy . Can’t wait until this film comes out
I concur 👍
Cant wait for it... hope is not a disappoint as I really really love Alien!
We're all in the same boat mate, we need to win for this franchise 🤞
This might be the process of the Alien getting bigger, after being a chest buster we never see the next stage of growth development , this might be this .the part we see it opening itself out .
Great thought! I feel silly not including this in the video as after reading your comment it feels like it's always been in my subconscious thoughts. We saw Brett discover the discarded skin from the Alien moulting in the original film and that was it, nothing more after that as you say.
Yes
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I think you are right with the hard cocoon I just think we might get a few new things added to the lore.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Hey do a video on it ,some more material for you .
Love the idea of updating the morphology to the beast, but I don’t think the creature we’re siding in the trailers looks like a big chap, mouth is incorrect and there are other details that are off… not saying this theory is wrong, but something’s off still, hoping there’s more and it’s not just all in the trailer already 🤞
Even if Romulus is between Alien and Aliens, perhaps the company actually did go back to LV426 to salvage eggs from the derelict ship, but somehow the ship's cargo got jettisoned en route to the Romulous space station (perhaps a a result of another uncontained outbreak, much like what's observed in Alien).
Remember, in Aliens, the blast radius of the atmospheric processor is about 30 - 40 kilometers, but the distance from the station to the derelict ship is at least a day's worth of driving (i.e. the rover with Newts family - they're far from the station) and would thus be quite out of range and remain unharmed.
@@andersborum9267 interesting thoughts but isn't 30-40 km more than a days ride right? I always assumed that Derelict was within the nuke range but who knows. I'm excited to see any exploration into those finer points in future films 👍
They need to introduce a new alien species, but something very horrific
We might get that. I only have theories so far of course.
When it says 'they grow rapidly'
How?
Is it like the b.s Marvel stuff where they have unlimited matter from nowhere?
Possibilities:
1 The tubes let them take carbon from the air and form it into carbon fibre of sorts.
2 They dissolve the surrounding materials like rock and metal from the ship (then slurp it up - see The Fly) making their teeth metal and skin harder.
3 both.
Is there an official take?
Great ideas buddy. I would bet money that no director has ever thought on this as much as the fans, therefore an explanation may only be found in comics and novels if it has even been explored at all. I like your theory about breaking down components in that vicinity to utilize as matter and energy though 👍👍👍
Still dont think its og xenomorph. They simply dont look alike
I believe if you had perfect side by side images there would be differences perhaps. Just having fun with theories right now but it's anyone's guess.
We have to remember that we've never actually seen a xeno shed it's skin on camera, I think this could well be that metamorphosis being shown for the first time. However having said that, I much prefer your theory of it being big-chap cocooned. Great video 👍🏻
More likely that you are right but appreciate your comments 🤟
Avp 2, know the movie sucks, but you see it on the Predator ship at the start, just for a moment.
Yes,indeed,AvP Requiem shows this,even just a few seconds
@@petcucristi8002 yeah AVP2 does show a brief scene, my point is that we have never seen it in depth, but Alien Romulus has shown more of this, just in the promo material, that AVP2 did in it's entire runtime. So I think we will see an in depth depiction of the metamorphosis in the new film. All the best 👍🏻
Is it the Queen blasted out from number 2?
Did the queen have a tracker in her from a Hadleys Hope colonist?
@@RedwolfDogrocket if she ate a colonist, maybe 🤔👌
"Yeah but... Secreted from what?"
Evolution is a fantastic but terrifying process because it can work both forwards and backwards depending on the species, going into factors such as hibernation, crytobiosis and stages of evolutional change depending on the conditions, some species has the ability to excrete enzymes to protect itself from the environment therefore begins it healing process until it wakes up in the future
@@Mark_nobody3 it makes you wonder what this specimen evolved from in the first place 🤔. Not saying it started out cute but...
Perfect organism
Like Ash said before
It's Kane's son
If they really did go the big chap in cocoon route well then there is a big ole queen floating around post aliens
All depends on Romulus box office first hehe
PERFECT ORGANISM!!!!!! I WILL RELIVE THE TIME OF 1979 IF THAT'S BIG CHAP. QUESTIONS COME TO MIND, SUCH AS DID ASH KNEW OF THE WHOLE PROCESS AND REPORTED IT BACK TO THE COMPANY OR DID THEY DELIBERATELY LEFT RIPLEY OUT IN SPACE FOR 57 YEARS JUST TO SEARCH FOR HIM. IF SO, THEN WE CAN VERIFY HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO THEM AND HOW FAR THEY WOULD GO. WOW!!!!!!
@@WillRobinsonDanger This weekend will be fun to find out indeed 👍
Coming out of the cocon. Hands on it head.
If it supposedly survived being in space doesn’t that mean the Queen from Aliens will Survive as well🤔🤔🤔
@@pedicochico9757 yeah, she's floating in orbit like a satellite 😉
It's the newborn. He got blown out the window at the end of the movie, rebuilt himself and came back.
🤯
Disney, please hire this man for your writer team. He can do no worse than what has already been done to Star Wars... 😉🤣🤣
Wait are you talking about the newborn from resurrection??? Because alien resurrection takes place WAY AFTER alien Romulus because remember alien Romulus takes place between alien and aliens
@@Sderror404 That's why he's likely to be hired by Disney!🤡
Yeah man!
Upon emerging from the cocoon, the fingers of the xeno's hands do not seem to match the joined fingers of the original 1979 creature. Also, the head looks somewhat different, despite any damage. If this is supposed to be the Nostromo alien, it should be copied exactly, all the way down to the stinger barb tail.
Yes well it may be that the big chap is only ever used as research and never brought back to life. It was fun working on the theory though ;)
i like the idea of a scene where we see the pipes along the back, secreting its web/goo cocoon stuff....very cool n alien if done right ;)
They must be used for something right? Always used to spark my imagination as a kid.
As offensive it is that they found the exact same alien that ripley
“destroyed “….where do facehuggers come from without eggs…god please help me 😂😂😂
@@SuperMachead1 they create incubators after they clone or create the specimens from DNA I guess, god knows haha!
Odd your cryptobiosis explanation should been part of the film life. As it is literally what we saw twice. Yet was never explained
I have no idea if any of what I say will actually take place but it helps to start with logic when trying to make these guesses ;)
I think there are two separate xenos. The one emerging has the brownish all smooth dome that looks like classic big chap ( I hope!). The one at the end has a completely different anatomy than big chap- bigger jaws, black partial dome, like 'Aliens' drones). We know there is at least one face hugger impregnation that produces a xeno. The scarring could be from events in the film?
I believe the latter Xeno could be an altered alien from experiments but we shall see. I have some new info regarding the cocoon opening so hopefully I'll get that uploaded in the next couple of days. There do seem to be varying types of xenos as you say though 👍
It’s the original xenomorph from alien in hibernation shell caught and bioengineering face huggers from its dna
Most likely at this stage
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I have the script.
@@chiefteefteefreturns3320 So you're the source of the leaks??? ;)
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE the original big chap is recovered by wayland hibernating in a resin casing. It’s held in a containment area with view screens and they add atmosphere to the chamber and it soon peels out of the cocoon resin. Unconscious people in sleep pods are put in the chamber and eventually turn into a type of egg with facehuggers. As the trailer has been released and people have figured some of it out this is what I can release from the script without being in some trouble. P.S there are two variations of face huggers.
@@chiefteefteefreturns3320 it's something I wouldn't mind seeing. Hopefully it's done better than Alien Resurrection 🤞. Still wondering if you're just joking around or whether you have actually seen the script, somehow...
Imagine if alien romulus took place between aliens and alien 3. The Cocoon you mention could have been The Alien Queen.
@@sebastiangutkowski7273 a crafty thing that was. She already sneaked on board the Sulaco so I wouldn't be surprised haha!
It will be an avarage movie and some seens like childishly picturised. But horrerly something expected.
Possibly. We'll find out very soon 😉
Man you are a friggin genius everything you said makes so much sense now since I watched the new trailer ! I've loved this movie series ever since the first one and then I found out there was 3 more already made but, aliens being my most favorite then covenant, and I love playing aliens fireteam elite it really makes me feek like I'm in the movie especially when tje shit hits the fan and you panic xD best series with amazing lore and history h.r.giger could never have predicted that thos would become into cult-like if it isnt already. Like the bar in New york completely modeled after aliens it's beautiful Google it I think it's call alien h.r.giger bar or something
Never heard of that bar, I'll look it up thanks. I'm completely with you as a fan, love the games and love most of the movies. Playing isolation again right now but I really with they would make more combat orientated games that are much better than colonial marines.... Fireteam was great fun and a good hoard FPS game. Dark Descent was incredible also but I would love a single player FPS game with a great story please. Thanks for the compliment my friend.
Some lore has single xenomorphs can become a queen. That would explain the facehuggers.
There is so much lore it gets confusing hehe
You all think and dream to much… it’s just another alien movie, the alien will appear somehow, will shred, and will die with an option of a return…end.. but this time it will be a really dark and good movie somehow nearby alien from Ridley Scott
I wish some writers and directors would think a little more hehe ;)
to be fair, that looks a lot, and i do mean a lot like big chap. the whole design is exactly the same.
i don't think the lab carrying something is the same as from the 'asteroid'. that looks very much like a crouched hunched xeno like big chap or the guy from prometheus. it also looks very much dead.
I'm guessing that the contents of the cocoon were on the carried table and from those samples we see new Xenos. From what I hear these days it seems we are less likely to see big chap alive but I really have no idea still.
So, when will we get the Queen ejected from USS Sulaco?
We will see her If Romulus does well at the box office haha 😉
Im all aboard with the return of the big chap. But it’s importen to not forget the title of the movie and that tells us that Romules is the spawn of the wolf mother. I assume the wolf mother is the big chap and Romules is the engineered spawn of the big chap. My thoughts offcourse😎
It also relates to the station itself in terms of technology but you make a really great point and begs the question, what could they have designed in the lab and what is the finished product?
Best analysis yet.
Very kind of you to say sir, have a great evening
Just one thing. Didn't Big chap enter the lifeboats rocket engines once he was forced out of the lifeboat? And didn't Ripley push the ignition burning him to a crisp?
Sort of but mostly yesterday. My next video explains another theory relating to this 👌. Remember we never actually saw him being destroyed in the film. He looked fairly intact to me.
Aaagh, these trailers spoil movies. Can’t resist watching them but they give so much away. Miss the enjoyment of going into a movie having no idea what it’s about.
Hehe, let's hope there are no more trailers and that this one is designed to confuse us 👌
I think that clip from the trailer with the cocooned Big Chap (speculation) is from much earlier than when the young crew arrives at the space station. When Fede says that Romulus takes place 10 years after Alien, that doesn't mean nothing happened before that, and in fact, Big Chap could have been captured by Weyland not long after Alien took place. Who knows how much surveillance the company had inside the shuttlecraft that Ripley pushed the Alien out of? For all we know, they were aware of what and when it happened, and they might not have been too far away from the Nostromo at the time of the event (weeks/months).
It would be an absurd 1 to a billion (trillion?) odds if that floating rock with Big Chap just happens to fly by Weyland's spaceship years after Alien, if they weren't looking for it already.
Now the one thing I don't get is, why would Weyland even need to capture Big Chap? They could just have gone to LV-426, since they already knew about the planet. Was it too risky? They couldn't find another expendable crew to send there and grab a few eggs? Unless they knew that Big Chap was floating around nearby anyway and went out to pick him up shortly after he got ejected it from the shuttle (saves them a trip to a dangerous planet for sure).
Tbh I love that we don't know, and I can't wait to find out (please don't let us down) 🙏
Yeah, great point. We forget that this is the future, although you wouldn't know it looking at the Millennium Nostromo 😉😉😉. Surely the vessel would have had CCTV streaming at the very least. I would assume much like how our ferry lanes in our waters are monitored by the military, Weyland would also have kept an eye on its previous cargo as well.
To your second point. I still don't understand why nobody has made a film about the between moments of LV-426 by now. The site was nuked in Aliens but the countless tears prior to that should have lots of stories to tell right? You're dead right that any smart organisation would have definitely sent people there after the events of Alien 💯%
I don’t know how big LV-426 is but if the distress signal stopped during the events of Alien then it could feasibly be really hard to find the juggernaut again couldn’t it? The weather is terrible and electrical storms make flying very hazardous. So perhaps isn’t just comes down to they couldn’t find it so decided to build the processing plant
this is my belief too, like it's part of a flashback or maybe video log or something, they've clearly been doing experiments on the xenomorphs because of the incubation pods and also (potentially) vials of black goo
@@SingleTrack66 Possibly. The tech in Alien was a mixture of good and bad haha. Although the Prometheus flagship with was set before Alien was equipped with the best the company had to offer.
@@peterhayday5227 It's good CCTV footage if it is a flashback and I hope we get lots of it in the film if so.
Couldn't that snip of the shell/cocoon actually be the stage of xenomorph life cycle when they molt and shed becoming larger
It could be but I wondered why it was floating in space.
What are the chances of finding ‘big chap’ in space? Next to zero, if the Big Chap theory holds, Weyland Yutani should have had knowledge of where in space to find it. Since that is unlikely since Ash didn’t have a chance to report any of this and Ripley was found decades later, all this needs some explanation to make it make sense.
Oh yeah, I agree. The writing needs to be intelligent as all I am doing is having some fun with this theory of course. If it is true then they better have gone to town with developing these ideas I agree.
4:47 i thought the damaged alien was because of the "cattle prod" it got stabbed with by one of the kids..
Oh yeah, but remember the date of this vid. I think we only saw that in a trailer that came out more recently. It makes more sense than thruster damage right? ;)
I just watched the end of alien and that thing went out in to space . Theory’s on FB saying it was still attached to the escape pod just could never happen
@@adamjames5027 probably right 😉 I also assume it will be discovered dead but the good thing about theories are they don't have to come true hehe.
The idea of a tracker in the harpoon is laughably ridiculous.
@@themerryprankster44 I won't say anything in case you haven't seen the film yet 👍
I recon Ash may even still be alive & is just watching the new chumps come to the slaughter
@@Thefamgang I suspect he would have uploaded himself to the mainframe before the Nostromo blew up 😉
Just don't waste your time with romulus. It's not worthy.
@@jkoblivion4175 ahh come now, you can't say that when you haven't seen it 😉. As an Alien fan you should give it the benefit of doubt as you never know, it might be a film that restores some faith for you in the franchise, maybe...
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE It was a painful experience for me. But my son age 7 loved it but he also loves staring at trees..so.. it says a lot about the movie.
@@jkoblivion4175 7? How did he get in the cinema. Lol
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE he used the door entrance like we all do. Why you assuming i'm from USA?
@@jkoblivion4175 oh, here they have age restrictions sadly. Did I say you were from USA? I can't remember. Glad your son enjoyed it though 👍
I Cant stand them using the word Romulus. It’s not Trek.
@@tardiscommand1812 it's strange that people so heavily associate this with Star Trek as both are taken from the Roman tale. Then again, I'm not a Trek fan so maybe I'd be thinking of it all the time too 🤣
it would make more sense and be more interesting to me if it was one of the multiple xenos shot off into space by Amanda Ripley in Alien Isolation.
Can you imagine if the director crossed those two stories over? He said that he played the game and it inspired him to make the film. Usually I hate most of the movies based on games but Isolation was mature and a thinking persons game in the purest form. I'm playing it again now but had to start over on Hard as Nightmare had me reloading saves constantly haha!
But then didn’t the big chap get fucking blitzed by the engines?
That's what I've been saying on other videos. The Xenomorph at the end of Alien got fricasseed by Ripley turning the engines on....
We see it float away intact and it is impossible to know what kind of damage it really did to it's exoskeleton. I get your point however, It's hard to imagine anything surviving that right?
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I just assumed that was down to the VFX of the time and not wanting to blow up the prop haha
how they got the creature if you look closely in one of the scenes you can see what looks like Ripley's lifeboat next to Romulus. possibly the tether to the grpple gun did not break and the ship ship towed big chap as he cocooned himself. They extracted the creature and set the lifboat back afloat as Ripley would be a liability to the secrecy of the creature
@@ctbram0627 hehe! Weird that you also had the same thoughts as me. I made another video shortly after this one explaining how the Narcissus vessel with Ripley and the tethered alien might have ended up at Romulus station. Great minds think alike 😉👍
Hi I enjoyed your theory for alien I would hope someday in there franchise if we will see a king how big would he be but one thing go me going is seeing the aliens jaw coming out of one of the cast members mouth is it a mutation or a hybrid what is your theory please I am so interested to hearing your thoughts and looking forward more and more seeing this movie thoughts
Thanks buddy, appreciate that. You'll have to time stamp that jaw scene for me please. I maybe missed that part I think.
If this theory is correct this director and writers, just beat all the new films in the last 10 years
@@gregrodgers107 haha! I'd imagine most of us have harboured a dislike towards some of those writers for a while now. The path that Covenant took was odd.
A Perfect Organism
If big chap is out there then so is the Alien queen that Ripley blew out into space in Aliens 2.
Can't wait for that one 😁
At the end of Alien the creature nestled itself between the pipes in the ship, probably beginning the process you are talking about. It has never been mentioned or described, the creature must have a life cycle and this process may be something it does at the end of its life cycle to rejuvenate itself.
To avoid dying and start over is a nice idea. A perfect specimen cannot just grow old and die surely ;)
The alien is generally based around the general insect orders.
-Exoskeleton
-Queen laying vast amount of eggs.
-Semi parasitising life span
-multiple stage metamorphoses
- chemical communication etc
So it stands that an alien can secrete a protective cocoon to protect itself in the hostile environment of space. Various insects build casings to protect themselves using their own silk and other secretions, cockroaches and mantids lay ootheca, a protective casing that has compartments that hold eggs, and in the case of mantids that casing is a initially a secreted foam that sets hard.
However it is my belief that these "perfect organisms" are vastly adaptive, and go with the theory that the derelict/jockey was in fact a large Alate( a winged ant/termite reproductive) type xenomorph, that gets created when the circumstances require it. Therefore giving the species a way to disperse on an intergalactic scale.
My hypothesis is that when the xenomorphs have used up all of the resource in a particular location, Alates are created and they disperse.
Yes this destroys the whole space jockey re-boot, but I'm more than happy to forget all that.
Very interesting theory there my friend. Are you saying the the space jockey was face hugged and then somehow controlled as to get the species to a new location? Or something else? He did suffer a chest burst after all. I also don't like the engineer route although I like to think that the engineers found this tech from another ancient species, the one we see in the derelict as he is much larger. I understand your point though. It's a form of adapting and surviving by using new techniques to find a new food source etc.
I think that in part maybe its the Big Chap because Alvarez is going to be using a lot of Call Backs/Easter Eggs for Nostalgia.
Having recover the original Big Chap may be COOL to some Fans as opposed to recovery of another Egg/Facehugger from Planet 4 or LV-426 (which to me those places would be the Companies first Port of Call).
Another Easter Egg is the Blue Mist/Field as i suspect that this won't have any connection with the Derelict, it will just be something that looks similar as a Easter Egg
There may be many things that are designed to trigger memories but that is all they are right? Hopefully anything that is a deep connection or something new will not contradict canon and will be smart enough to inspire us like the previous films were able to do.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I think that Alvarez will use free license to introduce new things, but I don't think he will do anything that would conflict with the Prequels or other Alien Movies.
My guess is”Big chap” won’t be on it.
It’s rather unbelievable.
My point being they were still hunting it by Alien 3
Tardigrade’s can survive so much stuff! Radiation, massive heat, all sorts.
One test showed it was almost Lava level heat to kill it!!!
Thank god the same can't be said about bed bugs haha!
Considering what was revealed of the plot, I don't think it's a theory, it's obviously a protective cocoon and when it occured to me, I thought it was brilliant and kind of made biological sense.
Some leaks do always turn out to be true of course. Just in terms of this ability to hibernate in such a way. I agree it's a great way to expand on the creatures lore.
How many of us here became acquainted with Big Chap in our early childhoods? How many were scared, and how many were disturbed yet still somehow fascinated by its appearance?
Honestly, these things might as well be real at this stage. I've always been fascinated by these incredibly creatively designed creatures, both in appearance and biology 👍
Yeah it was Incredible to see it the First Time, it wasn't Scary but i dont Scare.. apart from the Jump Shocks now and again....
Iconic though... it was like nothing i had ever seen before.
The Thing 1982 i found disturbing though, especially Dog Town Scene
@@davebear9825 god I adore The Thing. It might be better than Aliens or maybe on par, so hard to say. Almost like picking your favourite child 😂
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I hear they are going to be doing a Reboot of The Thing, I thought the Prequel was ok apart from some poor CGI and No One should survive.
I think that The Thing should be left alone, no more Prequels (where it came from) and no more Sequels.
But then the same should have been said with the Xenomorph Origins and the Space Jockey.... both left as a Mystery
There is a twist at the end of the movie . In terms of something new . There may be more than the big chap to contend with.
I'm sensing you maybe were part of early screenings? Or you have come into information some other way perhaps? You sound confident haha!
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE There's that shot of an obviously alien hand at 7:12, uncurling its fingers in a weird way that we haven't seen before. Could this herald a new kind of Xenomorph?
Looked very like the ID4 alien finger unfurling@@wowbaggertheinfinitelyprol6262
So is the Queen floating around in a cocoon? Is that the sequel to this?
possibly floating back into orbit haha
I think its a chestburster molting into an adult!
Just as valid
Here's a theory i haven't heard: What are the chances that the original Ash, being a synthetic generally ignored by xenos and also being the most invested in the xeno lifecycle, implanted or attached a tracking device of some kind to the xeno itself? Maybe he lied or omitted key details about the tracking device he built being micro changes in air density and the alien had something on it from him the whole time. It would be completely in line with his orders and objective.
That's a good theory buddy. I'm still confused about the fact that in some films and games that the synthetics are ignored but Bishop was slaughtered in Aliens. It's a good idea for another video one day but needs a lot of research and careful thought.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I always thought that Bishop being slaughtered was to show the Queen's heightened awareness and understanding over normal xenos, along with her 'negotiation' with Ripley, use of the elevator and sneaking onto the drop-ship. Perhaps she sees beyond him being a synthetic machine and recognized that he is a "tool" aiding her human adversaries.
You are over thinking it. Just like in Alien Resurrection; where a crisp Ripley was able to be cloned; same here with the Alien that was blasted into bits in Alien. A charred Alien piece allowed Weyland Yutani to be able to clone Alien DNA.🧬
Fair enough, but where and when did they find alien DNA to clone? Unless they went to LV-426 right after the Nostromo detonation. If this is true then they wouldn't even need to clone I suppose, just grab an egg and go ;)
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE that’s the piece that is floating into the ship. That is full of Alien DNA lol.😂
Is this a movie or is this the TV series I've been hearing about
This one is the movie buddy
If this is what happens to the xenomorph while in space, then the queen from Aliens is also still alive... She was also blown out of the Sulaco...
It's only a theory but if true then it would affect that as well I agree. Maybe the queen wasn't reported and therefore will never be found...
The only thing not going for this theory is that in the alien novel, big chap was described as being blown to chunks by the thrusters.
Like that would ever stop a scriptwriter.
I've always seen books and films like two separate parallel universes I suppose. Therefore the studio can easily just pick and choose what they want. It becomes tragic when you are invested in a good novel however, I get that.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE The novelisation was also taken from an early draft of the script, so there are inescapable differences between them.
Personally I don't think that this is the Big Chap. If that was the case then where did all the facehuggers come from? It couldn't have been an Egg morphing because the area where the eggs are located in isn't covered in the resin that usually found in the hives, instead they all seem to be stuck in crates without any sign of having been brought there by a xenomorph.
I think it's more likely that a single face-hugger got loose, did its thing to a random crewmember on the space station, and proceeded to kill off all the other people on the station. After it was alone, it went into hibernation, possibly secreting that weird cocoon around itself.
It just feels like it's a bit of a stretch that this space station had facehuggers from somewhere and then all of the sudden the Big Chap shows up too.
@@Dragon22159 nice idea and your theory could also be true. I think those face huggers in the film were grown in those incubators we see on the walls but I guess whatever the cocoon thing is, they must have extracted enough DNA from it to create them. Would also be fun if it was an egg floating in space 👍
@ENTERTAINtheDUDE, but where did the DNA came from? Remember, the Nostromo was destroyed unless there was a second ship on the way to LV 426 as the Nostromo left. The radar or tracking system has been altered or "defected" for that short time. Enough time to be unnoticed.
I watch alien back in 1979 in my first trip to NY and I was 11 years old I was horrified and can't sleep that night
@@dennissalgado6854 I bet, especially seeing as there was nothing else quite like it at the time. Seeing it on VHS as I was born in 84, it scared me but mostly fueled my imagination endlessly. Some nightmares occurred but I was ok, mostly 😉
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I watched it on HBO in 1979 with my sisters and neighbors when we were the first to have cable with the set-top box (the white one with the rotary channel selector and the TV must be on channel 3). My sister had issues eating spaghetti for years!!!!!!
Watching the footage again, I love the little details especially the face hugger attempting insertion. But this made me think about its mechanics. I'll assume its cut here but when he resists will the hugger tighten its tail around the neck to make the victim gasp opening their mouth? 🤔
It was quite horrible to watch that scene, so props to Fede for that one 👍
None of this matters - Everything depends on screenplay/dialogue and acting. Do you think Lord Of the Rings 2003 would have been a success if all actors had been teenagers?
@@syntaxed2 I hope they are all believable, even if the script is nothing special. Sometimes great actors can elevate a mediocre story. 🤞🤞
just wanted to say that the small arms on the chest of my neca alien queen from the 90s look just like the ones in the trailer. My bet is there`s a queen even if the face doesn`t match. Afraid it`s a king cause i Hate the concept. reminds me of that cancelled fanfiction toy commercial, videogame looking product that bloomkhamp guy wanted to produce.
As long as it isn't a Pred Alien 🥱
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE yeah in my head canon those IPs never mixed.