I apologize for the 2nd comment. I just wanted to give @ENTERTAINtheDUDE the credit and praise that he deserves. I'm not a youtuber as i would like to be. I know that making these videos and editing them are a pain in the ass. We have a ton of Alien related youtubers out there but i'm only subscribed to the few i find entertaining. With no regret i can tell you that as of now, you are my favorite one to date. What you do in your videos and the fact that you make time to actually ineract with your subscribers says a lot about your commitment. The fact that you take the time to comment and interact with your audience is something that i don't see often. I am a massive Alien fan and i personally don't have any friends or family to share my cool stuff with or talk about my interests with. That is why it means a lot that you actually interact with people. It is a quality that is going to get you noticed and i know for a fact that you will blow up if you stay consistent with everything. I must sound like a dork right now, but i really don't care. You deserve to know that you've got people who appreciate you.
Holy Moly! I was just scrolling through the comments and found this. Listen, firstly thanks for the huge compliment and I'm also glad you noticed that I do really care of what I talk about. I love hearing from you guys and am also in the same boat where most of the people I know just don't care enough about these subjects. Sometimes makes you feel like an outcast haha. It's been back breaking trying to reply to everyone as I've never had this much instant success with a video before but damm it feels rewarding to engage with you all. @N0rseman It's really nice of you to leave this comment and encourages me to continue with my passion project of making these videos after work. Thanks again. Hopefully in the next few days I'll be able to upload my trailer reaction and I'll see you there my friend 👽
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Knowing what it takes to make these videos and edit them is why i needed to let you know how appreciated you are. I know it can be hectic and difficult to get back to everyone, and the fact that you do that shows how much passion you have for what you create. I am a massive Alien franchise fan among other movie/comic book genres and seeing that people such as yourself have the same passion for it is kind of relieving because IRL i don't have the opportunity to talk about these things. Sorry if it sounds cheesy but you are doing great and i can't wait to see more to come.
Much like new Star Wars and Terminator movies, I just automatically expect another Alien movie to be utter shit these days so cannot get excited for this at all
Reasonable man. Absolutely understandable and logic. What should I say except of there’s nothing really new that’s anyhow good that comes out of hollycrapwood.
Totally agree dude. I just watched the new Star Wars trailer and it was horrendous. I'm guessing there is a high chance the new trailer will be disappointing but you always have to hold out hope i guess.
I’m still salty at the fandom for hating so much on Prometheus and then when they adjusted for what they complained about, they still complained about Covenant leaving us with an unfinished storyline that had potential.
Both Prometheus and Covenant were very interesting and the plot twist about androids was phenomenal and very inteligent, since androids lack "soul/emotions", therefore why they could be responsible for "ehm". The problem was that screenplay of Prometheus was garbage, like written by 15 year old. The Covenant had better screenplay, but still badly written characters. I blame this on Ridley Scott, I think he wasn't challenged by production and crew.
@@TheFranzkfk some blame must go to him absolutely but who picks the writers? Lindolf I think wrote Prometheus but I wonder how much that was influenced by Ridley as opposed to the studio?
I don't know what other people complained about but I complained about the stunningly imbecilic script. Covenant was a bit of an improvement on this at first until it, too, increasingly degraded into fatuous nonsense.
It’s the “new forms” that gets me. This isn’t pokemon; we don’t need new creatures to watch, we just need new stories involving the one set up in the first two movies. Maybe that’s just me I also really dislike the black goo and the creation of the xenomorph that was set up in prometheus and covenant. I didn’t mind it at first, but over the years it’s felt worse and worse. It ruined the mystery behind both the xenomorph and the space jockey
I like the idea of the black goo, but ONLY as a replicating, "John Hammond Jurassic Park" type of method, of replicating a version of a already pre-existing, ancient creature. Don't forget the Mural in Prometheus does still strongly suggest David replicated his own version, that was close to the original thing that existed eons ago, and was discovered by the Engineers. I prefer the idea the engineers themselves just found a way to create a more "Viral Bomb" method stored in those urns, of the biomechanical *Xenomorph*, because originally handling the actual eggs became too dangerous. that's the general idea i've always stuck to in my own headcanon which makes Prometheus and Covenant work well as prequels to the o.g. masterpiece ALIEN. But it always needed just one more sequel - "Alien: Awakening" to really connect those dots properly and explain what the Engineers were all about, while the ancient Xenomorphic creature could still remain completely mysterious. It's a shame Ridley lost the plot abit, preferring to delve more into David and A.I. instead of properly connecting the movies.
But if I’m not mistaken the black goo is something that is the first move the 8 passenger when they get to the ship a find de eggs if you look it up the eggs have bits of the black goo
There is definitely a trend of making our favourite monsters bigger and stronger. The Predator film before prey was a perfect example of that. I don't mind some tinkering etc but not the sort that damages the franchise and our memories.
This is what worries me the most so far is that in the OG movie the cast were well seasoned veteran actors that were well into their 30s or older and this cast is a bunch of 20 year old kids!
Yeah i gotta admit the really young cast does worry me too, but if they can make them likeable, relatable and not come across all smug and like stylish. I hope they appear quite dirty and run down abit, so i can truly believe they're a group of actual real space scavengers of that time, and not fresh out of uni graduates.
I agree with you guys. I think the new Alien series has more seasoned young actors than this film but as RaikenXion says, they need to feel a real part of where they come from and believable also. Fingers crossed but they certainly won't be the Nostromo crew that's for damm sure. Take care dudes
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE oh heck yeah, nothing beats the Nostromo Crew sorry. I love the way Parker and Kane simply hated Ripley's guts, especially parker, but when sh*t hit the fan and got REAL, Parker really stepped up and he cared for ALL his crewmates, he worked as a "team" with Ripley, he even tried to save Lambert, screaming at her get out of the way, like get out of here! Those actor's performances felt seriously frickin real man! And it made you genuinely care for every one of them. This is what these young actors will need to really bring to the table in their performances, young yes, naive sure, but there needs to be a genuine vulnerability and sincerity to them also. Trouble is Caley Spaeny and those others i've mostly never heard of before, they're already aware of the iconic masterpiece that is *ALIEN* and how big the Alien franchise is.
@@RaikenXion great examples and a description of the Nostromo crew. Completely agree. The most we can hope for is that they show genuine fear and do it authentically.
It sounds to me like the plot of an Alien video game rather than a film. In fact it sounds very similar to Alien Isolation, stumbling across a deserted space station that the aliens are loose on. I once read the leaked unused scripts for Alien 3 and most of them had more interesting stories than this. In fact the David Twohy one, a standalone plot with all new characters set on an orbiting prison satellite, would actually be worth dusting off and filming.
What sounds good about it is how it is suppose to tie into alien and the prequels. I hear its suppose to set up something that plays out in Aliens. There are still a lot of twists and reveals about the plot we dont know yet. The fact that the company was testing on xenos BEFORE Aliens is already cool to introduce to fans.
I'd be very interested to hear from you fine people and fans of the Alien franchise about your thoughts on these leaks also. Are you on the fence or have these leaks knocked your confidence as we draw closer to August? Personally I kinda feel that I could have written a better premise for an Alien film after learning some of these plot points ;)
Well the idea of a abandoned Weyland/Yutani Space station shouldn't threaten any potential connection to Covenant, because it could be that at some point in the past, David met up with W/Y representatives, and gave his batch of replicated facehugger embryos to W/Y where a team of scientists experimented with them. Maybe David actually worked with a group of scientists on the space station, secretly using them all as just subjects for his own continued experiments regarding the Xenos, and they all died with just the facehugger eggs left.
@@RaikenXionI guess in theory you are definitely correct. Anything like that is entirely possible of course. Nothing about David's story between covenant and Romulus has been written as you say. Well said buddy but whatever way they try to explain this, I just hope they don't screw it up 😮
Maybe I read too much into a particular wording, but I noticed it was "Yutani" and not "Weyland-Yutani". I could imagine a situation where they try and explain synthetics and their issues/differences (David/Bishop/Ash) as a difference between founders/owners. Or even an explanation for the different Xenomorphs that we will see, but like I said I might be reading too much into the choice of wording.
I'm a old school guy (mostly old) I didn't like Alien when it first came out. It gave me nightmares. But of course I had to study the film in college. I began to see that it was a perfect movie and not just a horror flick. Alien is not the picture I thought it was. After watching it a few times I began to pay attention to all the details. There are so many questions that are not answered. So when Prometheus came out I was happy to see that it answered all my questions. Most people didn't like it because they really needed to pay attention. All the answers are there. The Extended version with all the outtakes is the perfect film. But I was disappointed when Covenant pulled back the story in an attempt to satisfy critics who turns out didn't like it anyway. Hopefully Rumulus will get back to the storyline and continue the mythology.
Good to hear. Yes, I hope we get more of a continuation in not just this film but many more if they are decent quality of course. Hopefully we will get some course correction with the recent prequels as well as some answers.
i spent my life thinking the space jockey was some mysterious weird alien in it's own right then they ppoo'd on that with Prometheus, man that jon spaights writes crappy scripts, i could've come up with a better story for space jockey creature when i was 9 in '79
I heard the trailer will be released tomorrow,I just hope it's cut like the trailers for the first 4 films,the last trailer for Covenant gave away the beats of many scenes.
I agree the Alien Covenant trailer and Jurassic World 2 trailer both literally made me not want to see a movie I was hyped for. I don't mind verbal spoilers but seeing shots that completely reveals the ending is such a mood killer. It felt like the director bursted out my chest, put on a hat and started dancing.
Having Humans/David create the Xenomorph is already a sin on the franchise, but how did they create essentially the same thing twice? I am more impressed that they found and caught something travelling at the speed of an atomic explosion, it just happened to be a xenomorph. Recon the Franchise and have the Space Jockeys as the AVP Galaxy lore as the Bio mechanical nightmare society that they are.
Maybe I'm way off, but I don't credit David for 'creating' the Xenomorph. I think the black goo in Prometheus serves as kind of a... nanotechnological monster template, which can be used to create a variety of Xenomorph and xeno-adjacent creatures.
20 years ago I would have agreed with you but the problem is... Actors age. This is not a knock on Weaver at all. She's probably my favorite actress like, ever and her creation in Ellen Ripley is hands down one of the greatest heroines to ever grace the silver screen. But unfortunately, she's 74, and I just don't see her strapping on the old M-41 pulse rifle at this point. I'd like to see her make an appearance in the upcoming television series, but as a different character... Like I'd like to see her playing like a ruthless Weyland-Yutani researcher or one an evil corporate executive, something like that.
Every classic franchise has been ruined by "new" and "better" and "more" and "bigger," with huge doses of CGI and jumpy shakey camera. And (while Alien and Terminator did introduce us to fantastic feminine heroes) the over-use of unrealistic tough women heroes has been so overplayed to have now ruined basically every classic film action/thriller film series. It's so tiresome. Seriously. Is every 110 pound woman in the world the next super tough hero?!! It's become so mind-numbingly dumb. Can't they just write a good compelling film and cast believable characters?
More scary would be "Alien: Dead People", where the entire cast is made up of AI-generated likenesses of beloved Hollywood actors who have recently died. "In space, I see dead people scream." The curse of the next logical step.
So, we will watch again a creature that doesn't eat, doesn't piss, doesn't poop, doesn't speak, doesn't feel, doesn't have mercy, doesn't have remorse or weaknesses, only grows in hours and kills everyone in sight .. OK, we have seen all these, many times.. So, what's new?
Yeah, when you break it down like that, it really reveals the importance of having a good story with a point to it and likeable characters to take us through it. You never know, it might be ok ;)
I reckon Ashs' report back to the company net would have put them tracking Ripleys escape, then finding the big guy easily. Then leaving Ripley to drift in space because she knew the truth about the Nostromo disaster (her fault as in Aliens and the company inquest 57 years later) IMHO
There are so many gaps to be filled with stories and connections between these films that I do wonder how Romulus will ultimately tie in with the existing canon. I just hope it's well written.
With cast like this, it's practically impossible to make good movie. It's expected to be woke mediocre film, with forced diverse twinks and lesbians running in space. Edit: Just learned it's from Disney rofl. Of course it is. Movie doesn't have a chance unfortunately. Just hoping that enough people will hate watch it so they make money back at least
Interestingly Prey did not receive a cinema release in any territory, and no one is talking the numbers from week two on wards as Hulu discovered what the term "front end load" means. AR is getting a cinema release which indicates the Studio is confident this one is going to be a commercial success. The problem with the Alien franchise is no one is finding the Xeno frightening anymore and we basically get the same tropes movie after movie. My concern is they are going down the Jaws route, if a large shark is frightening to audiences (movie 1) then lets make them even larger, and hey they can roar, movie 2 to movie 4. This falls more into the realms of self parody than improving on what we have seen previously. Prey was a much better movie than I was expecting, still with huge issues, so I hold out hope for AR and will be there opening weekend. Great vid dude, at least someone is telling it how it is rather than getting caught in a simp frenzy.
Much appreciated buddy and your analogy and interpretation makes sense. I always am concerned by what studios regard aa success when anticipating a films reception but I think it's mostly down to stats and numbers on a commercial basis rather than understanding what made the OG films so great. I agree that sometimes they just look at how to add and add until the the creature stops being what it once was. Look at what they did in the Predator movie with giant predators and then a predator killing suit at the end of the film, absolute trash. Anyways, let's 'prey' this one respects where it came from and also respects us.
My thoughts exactly on the Alien, everyone knows what the Alien looks like and what it does. It's going to be difficult to make the Alien scary again or get the feeling of fear of the unknown from the first film.
According to rumours from the script writers,Neill Blomkamp movie was about the Sulaco ship drifting in space after the emergencypods were released.On the ship there were a xenomorph hidden in the lower basement of the spaceship.After fifty years they are detected by another ship bringing colonists to a new terraformed planet for humans.They send in two robots to investigate.They find traces of dna in the ships database,and clones Hicks,Ripley and Newt. But as clones they don't remember anything of the events that took place in the alien3 movie. When they arrive at the colonists destinyplanet,the xenomorph starts to lay eggs. Then all humans on the planets are attacked and a war breaks out.Ripley,Hicks and Newt manages to escape in a spaceship they find in a cave. It is a engineer spaceship that takes them to the engineers homeplanet called"Paradise".But when they have left the spaceship,a deacon crawls out and makes a cliffhanger for a followup movie 😀
I think that film would have been incredible and can you imagine the special effects that he would have used? District 9 blew everyones mind when it came out.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE My idea for an alien tv-series is as follows: It takes place just before the events in the first alien movie and happens on a planet near where the nostromo spaceship is shipping ore. Weyland-Yutani is on the planet and have terraformed it for years,when they discovers a cave with lots of xenomorph eggs. One of them get's infected and a xenomorph is born. It turns out to be a queen,and a lot of the Weyland-Yutani humans are infected and then a war breaks out. All the humans on the planet are wiped out and only a few manage to escape in a spaceship.Then they nuke the planet from orbit. Then Weyland-Yutani regrets the decision and a hunt for the xenomorph begins.They get a tip that there's a crashed spaceship on lv426 and sends the robot Ash on the Nostromo spaceship. But they are informed that the mission has failed and that Nostromo has gone missing.Then Weyland-Yutani get's a tip about an xenomorph on Fiorina161 and sends a team of researchers there.They finds a surviving prisoner that is impreagnated and a queen is born. Weyland-Yutani then wants to use the xenomorphs on the planets where the engineers are located because they want the technology to seed planets with life. They also want the elixir that provides humans with prolongued life.After they have managed to give birth to a flock of xenomorphs,they drops them on an engineer planet and causes everyone of them to die. Then they get hold of the blue elixir that gives prolongued life.But several ships with engineers that where away from their planet when Weyland-Yutani wiped the population out,pursue them and manages to get the elixir back,but gets trapped on the planet where both parties crash.Then a battle takes place and the crew from Weyland-Yutani gets the elixir that gives them prolongued life for thousands of years,but they are now trapped on the planet,with no means to get anywhere.But then they see a light aproaching,but is the spaceship friends or foes ? It turns out it is the engineers and after a battle they gets hold off the blue elixir once again,and that gives the cliffhanger for a second season that we must wait several years to see???
The production art showed Hicks having his scarred face from the events of Aliens. How would his clone have the same scarring? It was always said Blomkamp was going to ignore the events of Alien 3 entirely.
What made Alien special was the cast and the story. It was truly scary. What made Aliens special and even better was the same but a much better cast and an awesome story… been down hill since. I am not holding my breath on this one.
I didn't think the Aliens cast was better than the first but definitely more animated and with a military kind of bravado etc. but I agree with you otherwise. I feel like the regurgitating of the same old ideas will no doubt affect this film too sadly.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE the cast of Aliens could not have been better for that movie. Of the 2 its my favorite. But Alien was a solid movie and definitely ground breaking.
@@jond1965 yeah, there was no weak link in either buddy. Perfect cast for each type of film as you say. Newt nowadays of course would be entitled and possess the character traits of Greta Thunberg lol.
The whole 'needle in a haystack' argument is bang on. Why do we keep banging up against Ripley or her daughter when there is a whole galaxy of people out there? Those unconnected stories of alien from Alien Day a few years back were amazing for the diversity of stories, but the films are stuck in a rut.
@@tedankhamenbonnah4848 true, they were fun. I actually want a mature animated series of series of films that have great stories to prove it can be done, so why not in live action. 👍
Money and exploring different ideas that showed promise (what would it feel like to meet your maker and ask them questions, who were the space jockeys and engineers and why was the derelict space ship on LV426, philosophical questions about meaning and existence from the perspective of humans, synthetics, the xenomorphs, etc?)
@@JoLap42 The crappy thing about meeting our makers like that is it answers nothing, really. All it does is shift the answerless question to who made the makers/Engineers. It was a futile and pointless pursuit for the filmmakers to undertake. It is a bit like trying to imagine what is beyond our universe, or what is god, because the question simply shifts to where did that come from, who made god, in an endless search of infinity - it is incomprehensible. Something every ten year old should have considered and moved on from.
Trailer comes out tomorrow . . . . Enjoy the journey! I was there in 1979 and will be there on August 16, 2024! Don't OVERTHINK THIS . . . Sit back and enjoy the MOVIE . . . .
Tomorrow? There are weirdly so many fake trailers online for this film I'm actually worried I'm gonna watch the wrong one haha. Not seen an official trailer yet though
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Trailer Out . . . What do think . . . I think ROMULUS will be the 3rd best in the series ... Impressive Trailer! ruclips.net/video/GTNMt84KT0k/видео.html&ab_channel=20thCenturyStudios
@@bjrnhalfhand2258 It's just a Science Fiction Movie based on Entertaining, Fans of 45 year-old Franchise . Anyone that makes more of it than just that . . . Has way too much time on their hands . . . .
As bad as the newest movies in the Alien franchise may have been in some folk’s opinions, I genuinely feel like this is going to be a home run. As a life long Alien fan, I’m tired of being burned, but I’m ready for a W and think we have one here.
them finding the xeno in space floating can be explained by 2 things...one ripley could have been found but they didnt want to find her because she was a witness and they didnt really care about her...and two they used predator tech to scan and find it
I'm looking forward to this the abandoned space station & new weapons tech sounds straight out of the Aliens: Fireteam Elite game can't wait to see the trailer
Glad you're looking forward to it and I hope my worries are unjustified in the end but I definitely think the film will be a blast in terms of action and gore, maybe very fun. I just can't see it competing with the originals in terms of story maturity etc. hopefully I'm wrong hehe, take care buddy.
I was fully onboard until you got to the part where they somehow recovered and dissected the original Alien. I could understand maybe a W-Y ship sneaking in right after Aliens and grabbing the queen since she was simply flushed into space near LV-426, but the original thing was supposed to have been vaporized by the shuttle engines out in the middle of deep space. It reeks of the Force Awakens first draft of Luke's hand and lightsaber floating through space towards Jakku.
haha, what a star was movie that would have been... Oh wait, did we really get much better? Yeah, I just hope those leaks are rubbish and we get something more mature than that. I really wish we could see a full trailer as that would give us so many more answers.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I did like the draft opening that had the 2 tractor beam ships hauling the wrecked Star Destroyer to Jakku. Either way, the final opening of TFA is still probably one of the better scenes of the movie. Stuff like that is what makes me wish the Alien saga had ended at 3, if no one can possibly conceive of an Alien movie without it having Ripley or an alien from the original Derelict. The comics, books, games, and even Prometheus at least established that things could happen in all the random corners of the galaxy, and there are plenty of other grotesque creatures out there besides the basic xenomorph that could be incorporated into a movie or series.
Characters are key, I agree. It would be an amazing feat for these youngsters to impact on us in the same manner that the crew from the Nostromo or Sulako had on us for sure. We'll see ;)
Alien had a really simple plot. Crew trapped in a confined dark space with a Xenomorph. That gives more time for character development. We have a great director behind this, and he seems passionate about this project. It'll all rely on the acting prowess and whether or not the studio will allow the original vision and not meddle with it. Fingers crossed.
Prometheus and Covenant did nothing to slow the long decline of this franchise and Romulus sounds like it is going to pander to the worst elements of fandom by having a group of youths confronting (and winning) against what is supposed to be the deadliest form of alien life.
Well to make it fair, Both Ridley and Cameron apparently loved it so im sure itll be great. The black goo aspect has never bothered me. I loved the Prequels and the theming. Only thing that makes me eyeroll is admittedly the Xeno drifting through space and magically randomly drifting through space and being found lol
That could be promising but then they've said the same thing about other films that come under their guidance like Terminator Dark Fate when Cameron said it was great and then... It wasn't. Like I said in the vid, I hope I'm wrong but I'm just trying to be level headed hehe
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEforgive me man i completely re-edited my comment because i ignorantly made my comment 3 min into the video. My current comment is my true thoughts now after the video being finished. My apologies man, enjoyed the video
My worry is that alien was paced very slow and its more artsy even for its time than anyone would think to give it credit for. Aliens was a product of its time as well, its a lot like all james cameron films of that era. Generally speaking none of the reboots of classic films live up to the nostalgia we have for them or their quality. The modern "good filmmaking" becomes very obviously poor when you've got something genius with "outdated filmmaking" to compare it to. I think studios just want to follow a formula and follow expectations with no regard for quality of the artistic work. I'd really rather have more prometheus films with less studio meddling and input. Less forced xenomorphs, less throwbacks to alien, and less CGI. Both were fascinating and beautiful films. Both desperately need to be recut.
And there were eggs in the Derelict, years later a colony were built on that said planet. And then surveyors find that same derelict Nostromo found years ago and came back with a Facehugger.
The original alien being found does not seem stupid to me. The alien was shot out around the crash sight of the nostromo. Wayland would have investigated the crash and then potentially would have found the alien.
The original alien was vaporized according to the script. I guess it's just going to be like the star wars emperor being brought back without any rational explanation.
Way too sci-fi!?…. lol. I can’t wait for this film. People just need to enjoy the fact the alien franchise is still interesting enough to provide new movies. 🍿
Too sci-fi meaning less grounded of course but we shall see. If the film doesn't offer anything new then it will maybe only interest the people that mindlessly consume most of the crap that comes out these days. But as I say, I'm on the fence and am hoping it will be scary and violent with a good enough story and acceptable performances. I really need this film to be good and was simply voices some concerns many seem to share 👍😉
Just the fact that it’s such a young cast tells you alot about what to expect. I think this is way too hyped and I’m not expecting anything too inspiring. I’m sure visually it’s gonna be amazing but nothing like the original ones.
I also think it will be exactly that. That's why I try to stay grounded about these films and not let hype dictate my thoughts when making these vids. I don't think I found another soul on RUclips being critical of the trailer haha
So, now we have an alien immune to jet blast injuries, and can live extended periods (presumably days, weeks, or even months) floating in space?! And they can locate it? Yet Ripley floated for 6 decades and was only found by luck? This sounds like a desperate B-movie plot device created by a 15 - year old writer.
The fact the planet plays a role in this movie, has me hoping for a potential Empress! (Or similar) We know the Xenomorphs have a Hierarchy. Hoping this will be touched upon further! 👌
It's possible it could set something special up for future sequels i guess. As long as this one is a success of course. I don't mind them taking the narratives of comic books etc as long as it stays mature enough.
It seems really odd that W-Y would leave a space station, upon which they experimented on xenos, to just float around abandoned. Not that the crew would be able to destroy it if/when things go pear-shaped (if they were overwhelmed, doubtful they could self-destruct it like the Nostromo was). However, I have a feeling W-Y would try to salvage it (for he research), or "nuke it from orbit" so that no one else could get it. I dunno....just seems off, to me. As in, "Well, we had to have SOME way of having the story take place. Therefore, idiotic choices."
Agreed, just from the basic information there are far, far too many plot holes and unimaginably bad plot devices. W/Y (or whomever is studying these) has a big multi-billion dollar interest in these? How is it these are abandoned? No distress signals, nobody shows up? And the other unrealistic device is apparently discovering a floating alien in space, which sounds just ridiculous. And the group of teenager DEI stars is another bad sign, as is the obviously over-used CGI and saturation rather than practical effects. And jump scares... looks really bad to be honest.
Finally someone not just saying how amazing the movie looks. This just looks like rehashed territory. Also why are they changing an already perfect organism? That’s ego. Geiger already did it best.
Well said sir. I should be putting out my trailer reaction in the next couple of days and there are things honestly I like and definitely things I didn't. I'm also surprised by how many RUclipsrs are eating it up, makes no sense to me lol.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I absolutely agree. I really want this movie to be good to revitalize the Alien franchise. But all other reviewers are just getting caught up in how good it looks. It DOES look good. But if they're changing creature design... Oof. That's potentially a huge no-no imo. I worry this will be "The Force Awakens" of the Alien franchise: a good film that plays things too safe and familiar but doesn't really advance the story/universe/anything in any meaningful way.
I get your fears and I share them, but as for the Big Chap dilemma, I would think the company may have been monitoring the progress of the Nostromo and once the ship was blown they may have sent in a a salvage team to bring back any traces of the alien and this could be when they found the big chap.
I would like nothing more for this to be a great Alien movie, however any ties to Scott's so called "prequels" already worries me. Those two movies don't even feel like Alien movies but something different altogether. If they were stand alone movies with no ties to Alien, I would have liked them more than I currently do. To me, there are only three entries in the Alien universe - Alien, Aliens and Alien Isolation... the rest are just fanfiction to me.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I agree. I used to play games when I was young, the last one I remember playing in my childhood was Duke Nukem 3d, but Alien: Isolation really pulled me back. Amazing game, amazing story and amazing atmosphere.
Teenage drama with alien thrown in and don’t be happy over the violence for all we know it’s someone bleeding from their finger and the crew are just a bunch of whimps
I don’t care what the haters say. I WANT ANYTHING ALIEN NOW. I wanna know what happens next. I want a live action/video game take on Alien: Earth War and beyond. I want Alien Romulus now.
it is always possible it will be good. I'm optimistic. I didn't hate the Prometheus era movies. They had good special effects. I just thought Alien 4 was terrible. LOL It shouldn't exist. The other ones were fine. What they should do is make Alien Isolation into a film. Great plot, scary, exciting, interesting.
I honestly believe that if they make an indie style film of an Isolation adaption with a lower budget, it would rock. I just find that the bigger films tend more to fail cause of the pressure put on them. Right now, I just wanna be scared but I also wouldn't mind if the story was smart either for Romulus, fingers crossed 👍
So, "Alien Romulus" is a version of the "Alien: Isolation" game? Does this mean that no director worth his weight in Cocaine will ever visit the Xenomorph homeworld? Never underestimate the lack of vision/courage of post-modern Hollyweird.
Personally, I loved Prometheus and i liked Covenant. I would have loved them to continue Davids story but i guess that will never happen. Of course i loved Alien and Aliens, didn't really like Alien 3, but i did like Alien Resurrection which i know isn't popular. I know all the leaks of Romulus and i'm glad you didn't mention some of them because it destroys a lot of the shock and surprise, and if this is all you know, even better. I personally wish i didn't know them because i wanted to be surprised. But i take responsibility for my own actions and i didn't need to read what i read. Anyway, i'm still excited. can't wait for Alien Romulus.
David might not be done, I've heard a rumor about David and the other synthetics in the film. The brother of the main character is a wey/yu creation too.
Weirdly I prefer Alien 3 to Ridley's recent two films, maybe I'm weird haha but we all have our preferences I guess. I would also love for Ridley to continue with his films and I certainly never hated them either. There were many aspects that I absolutely loved but also things I found annoying. Yeah I'm with you on the leaks I won't be going any further with spoilers as I actually don't know too much more than what I discussed luckily, take care guys.
If Romulus is a hit then Scott will get to do his final prequel, why do you think he's producing Romulus AND the upcoming alien TV series. Use your loaf for goodness sake!
@@winstonwolfwhiteshoes No David in Romulus but we are getting something related to Ash, possibly an earlier model, plus we're also going to see the black goo linking this movie to the prequels.
Massive Alien fan here...hoping for the best! However, I saw a interview with Fede and he described the movie as a "rock concert" where you went to see and hear all the old songs and one or two new ones...that sounds AWEFUL to me. As I HATE when my favorite movies have a sequel made where they just rehash old scenes and copy "epic" dialog and lines from the original to be easter eggs to long awaiting "fans"....ugh...I hope not!
I completely see your point. Rehashing old stuff just means they've completely missed the point in my opinion. The more I read these comments the more I realise I'm definitely not alone in my thoughts when I made the vid haha
It could well be. It won't be the Asian actress as from the trailer we know that there was no damage to her face whilst she had a chest burster inside her. Whatever it is, I hope it makes the audience squirm.. 👍
The xeno in the first movie couldn’t have survived for long. I’m no expert about xenomorphs but I heard that they only live for a couple days. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Not sure how anything could survive in space period! But they don't produce body heat so maybe some form of hibernation?? As for Thier lifespan, they must live much longer surely. In Aliens I think some months had gone by while Newt was hiding.
So all of the Alien films have had a female lead, wouldn't the simplest change of formula be to just have one movie with a male lead? Definitely in agreement we don't need a new form of Xeno. The original ones established in the first 3 (yes think the dog aliens (runners) make sense). The new forms will likely be goofy, nonsensical and only serve to undermine the traditional xeno.
Judging from the new poster I noticed that the aliens teeth look all perfect and symmetrical. Major turn off as it looks like a fan Photoshop poster. For it to be scary it should never have been designed so well, perfection is boring.
I'm remaining positive, but all this talk of genetic experiments and new breeds of alien just turns me off. I think the worst thing that ever happened to alien was the suggestion of them being weaponized. This led to liberal use of the term "bioweapon" without really knowing what it meant, and that led to all the shenanigans in alien 4. And of course, it retroactively led to the Prometheus storyline of engineers and alien goo. It's just gone way off track of what alien was all about. They're meant to be inexplicable and unexplainable. Horrific creatures that cannot be understood or reasoned with, and they absolutely will not stop until you are dead. I'm pretty sure I stole that from somewhere. But, turning them into biological experiments and "scary new varieties" doesn't make them scarier. It makes them less mysterious. It's like fodder for a action movie not a horror movie.
HAHA, pretty sure you stole it from one of my other favourite movies involving a cybernetic organism from the future perhaps but I'm no snitch ;) Yes btw, one of the biggest achievements with these older films was the sense of mystery and not knowing where they came from. Contrary to popular belief withing the writers room these days, I do believe that protecting those mysteries would be a pleasant surprise for most mature audiences these days.
If Ridley Scott says it's a great film then it probably isn't. Hollywood doesn't make good films anymore, it's all virtue signalling and tired writing.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Disney cater to the minority now not the majority. They’ve probably hired the woman who messed up Bud Light as their new director of projects. I have no faith that our beloved Alien franchise will be any different.
Hopefully the “fleshy” xeno is more neomorph than any of that garbage from Resurrection. I hope there is absolutely zero influence from that cinematic dung.
Personally, I'm excited for this one after seeing the teaser trailer. As long as the characters are good and the action is fun, I'll call it a win. I'm not expecting a masterpiece. But maybe this will be enough to give this deserving franchise the boost it needs so that we can get those masterpiece movies made in the future.
I feel the same in regards to the movie giving the franchise another launching platform for something better or simply more of the same. I guess the snob in me wants perfection like in the past haha. Currently dissecting the trailer and it really is a mixed bag for me. Glad you're excited for it though mate and I hope it is good enough.
I am skeptical aswell - The cast is very young and multicultural making me think generic target mass audience, the safe card so to speak. I have a question though - Why isnt capitalistic competition working to bring us better movies? Competition is heralded as the end-all-be-all solution for better products but theres been like 3 decades of rather crappy alien, terminator, predator movies - Why isnt the competition working??
Interesting point. It's almost like the ideas for these films are very inclusive in a way that exist in a bubble not affected by the competitive market. It's very backwards when you think how much $$$ Disney are losing due to their arrogance. I could do better market research and profit projection for them based on what stories i think would work than their current employees haha.
If it doesn't reinforce the ORIGINAL canon and fix the GARBAGE that was both Prometheus and Covenant, I'm not interested. And, so far, if the "how the xenomorph ended up on a station" is accurate, it's complete BS and utterly defies the events that led up to Aliens. This is going to be stupid. It sounds like the only thing they are doing is using the alien character and heavier gore to make a quick dollar from the shallow public.
Yep, I agree. It sucks that they feel the need to to dumb down in rapid succession the original concept with imbecilic ridiculousness. It was better when the Xenimorph alien was a naturally evolutionary species encountered, instead of a bioweapon created by a god-complexed android and a black goo manipulated by space engineers. Preposterous!
Well you may be right but I think the blowback from true fans would affect Fede's career at this point. You make an Evil dead remake and fluff it up, it gets forgiven. Alien however, fans are gonna speak up.
Have not heard a lot about the upcoming film, but one thing that worries me is the casting. Everyone seems to be young and pretty. That seems to be a trend in other franchises like Star Trek spinoffs. Not that I want ugly people but if you cast for looks, that is often all you get.
Release is August and I actually think that a teaser just before Alien day and then a full trailer on the day is a great idea. Of course it would be nice to see what they have done with the film as soon as ;)
I doubt Disney can do alien justice, sounds like they are taking a step back and letting creative freedom drive this, but i have high doubts when it comes to disney, they just cant help themselves
It would be nice to know how much control Fede had over this film. It will all depend on these crucial conditions when it comes to Disney. Star Wars behind the scenes has been one big drama...
My main concern would have to be the writing. Honestly, I enjoyed the direction Prometheus (and the fancut?) was heading towards, and I wish we had gotten the initial concept, but then we were given Covenant, and that was just abysmal. What has been shown, or discussed about? I'm on board, but most films these days have terrible scripts/writing/dialogue, and I have this aching suspicion this may be a film that'll have a lot of Twitter/TikTok bullshit, if you get my meaning. I want to be wrong, obviously, but I'll need to see how this crew is portrayed first.
Yeah at least Romulus is a big step away from those films and has every opportunity to reignite the passion for Aliens among the fans while still exploring the android theme but that all depends on if it will be good or not 😉
Sounds disappointing to me. The research station has already been done. Sadly we will never get closure in how the juggernaut ended up where it did with a bay full of eggs. The idea was Scott to finish the saga. That was supposed to be the end game for Scott. This sound disappointing at best. I will be taking a pass.
Prometheus was a start, introducing the engineers and their use of the juggernauts as a transport for weapons of mass destruction. The black goo was a bad idea, there was none of this in the original ship in alien, just a chamber full of eggs /facehuggers. Covenant just perpetuated the joke with a particularly insipid lead female - I thought Karine Oram had more about her than Daniels
That Juggernaut has my brain on fire as a kid. So many times I would ponder on just wtf happen on board and where it came from. I imagine in the future things like the engineers and goo can be reversed but probably not while Ridley is alive.
One thing that I could never figure out. It seems implied that David made the Xenomorphs. Or that they came from the engineer that was attacked and the Deacon came from that and is a precurser. But in Prometheous the was a figure sculped on the wall that was a Queen or a Drone. So the Xenomorphs existed before David was involved. How does this all work? The trilobyte that impregnated the engineer, Davids experiments and the Xenomorphs from before can't all possibly be linked because they came from 3 different scources. Anyone?
I like to think that the Xenomorph was a creature that we stumbled upon, not engineered. I hate the concept introduced in Prometheus and then in Covenant.
A good point to bring up @BlackAdder1970. I always interpreted it as the goo was created by the engineers and they learnt it's secrets long ago. They most likely experimented with it and created the xenomorph as well and using the goo for other utilities. As you say, they had a mural on the wall depicting this that was built maybe thousands of years prior to Prometheus. Who knows but hinging the perfect organisms creation on David's experiments was daft to me. Surely he only stumbled upon the goo's potential?
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEI think the mural is enough evidence to say David didn’t create xenos but simply reverse engineered them. Would have a great irony with how Walter was unable to create if David was also just copying.
Im absolutely on board with the plot details seen here. A derelict/ran-over space station is exactly where I could see Xenomorphs brooding, waiting. They are a clever species so infiltrating off the station would be horrifying to watch. As long as things are done tastefully I like the bones of this movie.
Let me make a flowchart. Yes = Bad No = Good Is the film a Disney release? Is Disney writing the script? Does the film have a strong female lead? Is the bad guy/characters in the film straight white males? Avoid this film and have zero expectations that it will deliver. Disney is incapable of creating a story that will blow Alien fans away.
My issue with Prometheus and Covenant was never the aesthetics - sometimes a juxtaposition elevates the tension - but rather the fact that both films were populated with idiots who behaved irrationally, and in many cases completely against their stated character motivations or even against their own interests. Add in the garbage explanation of the engineers and David being responsible for the Xenos… ugh.
I can complete understand your frustration with those films for those reasons. The idiot that touched the giant worm just for fun made me cringe in the cinema when that happened. I would love an explanation from the writers as to why they thought that was a good idea. Maybe something got lost in translation from script to filming but i doubt it...
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I get serious "Star Wars prequels" vibes from Prometheus and Covenant. In both cases, movie directing giants seemingly had no-one around them to say "this is a shit script that doesn't make any sense whatsoever!?"
*Ridley Scott got lost on his own trying to tell a story and studio interference yet again adding their lame and crummy demands.* Clean tech has nothing to do with undermining a sci-fi story. It's a poorly made story that has everything to do with undermining it.
Oh you git! I was hoping nobody would notice that haha, you're the only one that mentioned it ;) I thought I'd leave it in there to demonstrate that i'm not a synthetic...
Thanks for saying you hope the leaks stay down. We don’t need anymore going out. The surprises will really be fun for fans and they should really stay away from spoilers.
I'd rather have a movie based on the avp games from 1998 and 2000. The best part about those games are xeno are terrifying, smart and extremely cunning to dealing with the marine who are packing some serious firepower. Hollywood clearly doesn't get it, hence why this movie is already looking like rubbish to me too much focus on the original movie. I want something similar to aliens 2 but with some serious action.
@@joshb8233 god, remember the ambient music while playing as a Xeno? So haunting and it was the first time experiencing playing an alien in a game. Took me a while to get used to sticking in any wall but going through vents and pouncing on people was priceless 👌
Alien's first Xenomorph (Big Chap) being recovered in the middle of space gives me "Somehow... Palpatine Returned" vibes. Dumb as hell, I hope that at least this part of the leak is fake.
Looks like this movie ain't for you them. We KNOW Big Chap's body is recovered by W/Y and they reverse engineer his DNA back to reveal the black goo from which they create their own creatures. This is all but confirmed now.
@@PeachyCarnehanWI Romulus is set between Alien and Aliens so the Queen hasn't happened yet, and AvP is a separate franchise that Scott already rightly nuked.
I think we should wait and see. Give it a chance. See it as a whole. I really like this director and I love how he has gone more gritty with this. It’s what an Alien film needs. It’s not a family/Disney film! Can’t wait to see.
Oh you're dead right buddy. I look forward to seeing it and hope I enjoy the film but it's still fun to analyse what we see and know so far objectively at least 😁
I'm assuming it will be garbage but honestly I will be happy if it is even average. I want this movie to be good and succeed it's just that the franchise hasn't put out anything good since the second one.
Would have been a hell of a thing to have seen that film. I wonder sometimes how great it actually would have been though. At least it would have fixed the disconnect people felt after watching Alien 3 hehe
He didn't have a script. He had story boards and ideas but ridley didn't want to confuse people by possibly writing off ALIEN 3. I have heard rumors that Neil's version included CLONES of Ripley, Newt, and Hicks. I'm not sure that's true though since the story boards show newt as an adult.
Ridley wouldnt have given a shit about Alien3 - he cared about Blomkamp stealing his thunder The film didn’t need to acknowledge the discontinuity at all. It’s always worse if a film tries too hard to say “now *this* is actually what happened” Let the audience decide whether Alien 3 was a dream in cryo sleep but for god’s sake don’t show it
Thanks E.theDude for your insight and report on the leaks for Romulus, so looking forward to another theatre experience with an Alien movie. Keep up your work, it's appreciated.
I apologize for the 2nd comment. I just wanted to give @ENTERTAINtheDUDE the credit and praise that he deserves. I'm not a youtuber as i would like to be. I know that making these videos and editing them are a pain in the ass. We have a ton of Alien related youtubers out there but i'm only subscribed to the few i find entertaining. With no regret i can tell you that as of now, you are my favorite one to date. What you do in your videos and the fact that you make time to actually ineract with your subscribers says a lot about your commitment. The fact that you take the time to comment and interact with your audience is something that i don't see often. I am a massive Alien fan and i personally don't have any friends or family to share my cool stuff with or talk about my interests with. That is why it means a lot that you actually interact with people. It is a quality that is going to get you noticed and i know for a fact that you will blow up if you stay consistent with everything. I must sound like a dork right now, but i really don't care. You deserve to know that you've got people who appreciate you.
Holy Moly! I was just scrolling through the comments and found this. Listen, firstly thanks for the huge compliment and I'm also glad you noticed that I do really care of what I talk about. I love hearing from you guys and am also in the same boat where most of the people I know just don't care enough about these subjects. Sometimes makes you feel like an outcast haha. It's been back breaking trying to reply to everyone as I've never had this much instant success with a video before but damm it feels rewarding to engage with you all. @N0rseman It's really nice of you to leave this comment and encourages me to continue with my passion project of making these videos after work. Thanks again. Hopefully in the next few days I'll be able to upload my trailer reaction and I'll see you there my friend 👽
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Knowing what it takes to make these videos and edit them is why i needed to let you know how appreciated you are. I know it can be hectic and difficult to get back to everyone, and the fact that you do that shows how much passion you have for what you create. I am a massive Alien franchise fan among other movie/comic book genres and seeing that people such as yourself have the same passion for it is kind of relieving because IRL i don't have the opportunity to talk about these things. Sorry if it sounds cheesy but you are doing great and i can't wait to see more to come.
More worried it'll be a gore/splatter movie, instead of a creepin, scary nailbiter, wich i prefer.
Right…
Yeah, that's one tricky thing about knowledge the more you know or the more you want to know the more lonelier you'll end up being.
Much like new Star Wars and Terminator movies, I just automatically expect another Alien movie to be utter shit these days so cannot get excited for this at all
I would agree with you but "Prey" was actually quite good so i'm holding out for Romulus and giving it a chance.
I feel like these people make these movies just cause they hate me and despise my childhood.
Generic Mary Sue character ✅
CGI overusage ✅
Bloated budget and cast ✅
Bad writing ✅
Dumb characters ✅
Pandering ✅
Reasonable man. Absolutely understandable and logic. What should I say except of there’s nothing really new that’s anyhow good that comes out of hollycrapwood.
Totally agree dude. I just watched the new Star Wars trailer and it was horrendous. I'm guessing there is a high chance the new trailer will be disappointing but you always have to hold out hope i guess.
“It all sounds way too sci-if”
Wow, sci-if elements in a sci-if movie. How shocking.
I’m still salty at the fandom for hating so much on Prometheus and then when they adjusted for what they complained about, they still complained about Covenant leaving us with an unfinished storyline that had potential.
Does sound sometimes like a contradiction, I know
Both Prometheus and Covenant were very interesting and the plot twist about androids was phenomenal and very inteligent, since androids lack "soul/emotions", therefore why they could be responsible for "ehm". The problem was that screenplay of Prometheus was garbage, like written by 15 year old. The Covenant had better screenplay, but still badly written characters. I blame this on Ridley Scott, I think he wasn't challenged by production and crew.
@@TheFranzkfknah, the problem with Prometheus was Fox interfering and destroying the cut and editing.
@@TheFranzkfk some blame must go to him absolutely but who picks the writers? Lindolf I think wrote Prometheus but I wonder how much that was influenced by Ridley as opposed to the studio?
I don't know what other people complained about but I complained about the stunningly imbecilic script. Covenant was a bit of an improvement on this at first until it, too, increasingly degraded into fatuous nonsense.
The only thing that would excite me is if they announced Alien: Isolation 2 or the like of: in game format.
I hope the sequel happens, I really do.
Yea I agree it’s criminal that game didn’t get a sequel. It’s story is way better than Alien film other than the first two.
It’s the “new forms” that gets me. This isn’t pokemon; we don’t need new creatures to watch, we just need new stories involving the one set up in the first two movies. Maybe that’s just me
I also really dislike the black goo and the creation of the xenomorph that was set up in prometheus and covenant. I didn’t mind it at first, but over the years it’s felt worse and worse. It ruined the mystery behind both the xenomorph and the space jockey
I like the idea of the black goo, but ONLY as a replicating, "John Hammond Jurassic Park" type of method, of replicating a version of a already pre-existing, ancient creature. Don't forget the Mural in Prometheus does still strongly suggest David replicated his own version, that was close to the original thing that existed eons ago, and was discovered by the Engineers. I prefer the idea the engineers themselves just found a way to create a more "Viral Bomb" method stored in those urns, of the biomechanical *Xenomorph*, because originally handling the actual eggs became too dangerous.
that's the general idea i've always stuck to in my own headcanon which makes Prometheus and Covenant work well as prequels to the o.g. masterpiece ALIEN. But it always needed just one more sequel - "Alien: Awakening" to really connect those dots properly and explain what the Engineers were all about, while the ancient Xenomorphic creature could still remain completely mysterious. It's a shame Ridley lost the plot abit, preferring to delve more into David and A.I. instead of properly connecting the movies.
But if I’m not mistaken the black goo is something that is the first move the 8 passenger when they get to the ship a find de eggs if you look it up the eggs have bits of the black goo
Ridley Scott has ruined this franchise by making the space jockey an engineer. He needs to quit making films.
@@Alberto-si5xf that’s what you call “retconning”
There is definitely a trend of making our favourite monsters bigger and stronger. The Predator film before prey was a perfect example of that. I don't mind some tinkering etc but not the sort that damages the franchise and our memories.
This is what worries me the most so far is that in the OG movie the cast were well seasoned veteran actors that were well into their 30s or older and this cast is a bunch of 20 year old kids!
Yeah i gotta admit the really young cast does worry me too, but if they can make them likeable, relatable and not come across all smug and like stylish. I hope they appear quite dirty and run down abit, so i can truly believe they're a group of actual real space scavengers of that time, and not fresh out of uni graduates.
Correct!
I agree with you guys. I think the new Alien series has more seasoned young actors than this film but as RaikenXion says, they need to feel a real part of where they come from and believable also. Fingers crossed but they certainly won't be the Nostromo crew that's for damm sure. Take care dudes
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE oh heck yeah, nothing beats the Nostromo Crew sorry. I love the way Parker and Kane simply hated Ripley's guts, especially parker, but when sh*t hit the fan and got REAL, Parker really stepped up and he cared for ALL his crewmates, he worked as a "team" with Ripley, he even tried to save Lambert, screaming at her get out of the way, like get out of here! Those actor's performances felt seriously frickin real man! And it made you genuinely care for every one of them.
This is what these young actors will need to really bring to the table in their performances, young yes, naive sure, but there needs to be a genuine vulnerability and sincerity to them also. Trouble is Caley Spaeny and those others i've mostly never heard of before, they're already aware of the iconic masterpiece that is *ALIEN* and how big the Alien franchise is.
@@RaikenXion great examples and a description of the Nostromo crew. Completely agree. The most we can hope for is that they show genuine fear and do it authentically.
There remain only 2 Alien films.
I see what you did there ;)
It sounds to me like the plot of an Alien video game rather than a film. In fact it sounds very similar to Alien Isolation, stumbling across a deserted space station that the aliens are loose on. I once read the leaked unused scripts for Alien 3 and most of them had more interesting stories than this. In fact the David Twohy one, a standalone plot with all new characters set on an orbiting prison satellite, would actually be worth dusting off and filming.
The acting better be good then haha
Neil Blomkamp’s ideas for a alien film sounded the best to me and wasn’t woke which is why Disney turned him down.
What sounds good about it is how it is suppose to tie into alien and the prequels. I hear its suppose to set up something that plays out in Aliens. There are still a lot of twists and reveals about the plot we dont know yet. The fact that the company was testing on xenos BEFORE Aliens is already cool to introduce to fans.
Yeah I thought I heard this takes place right before or right after Aliens…. I hope that is true because the first 2 we’re absolutely the best.
The prequels are the worst things related to this ip, so no 😁
@@alexrogers9051 takes place 20 years after Alien
I'd be very interested to hear from you fine people and fans of the Alien franchise about your thoughts on these leaks also. Are you on the fence or have these leaks knocked your confidence as we draw closer to August? Personally I kinda feel that I could have written a better premise for an Alien film after learning some of these plot points ;)
Well the idea of a abandoned Weyland/Yutani Space station shouldn't threaten any potential connection to Covenant, because it could be that at some point in the past, David met up with W/Y representatives, and gave his batch of replicated facehugger embryos to W/Y where a team of scientists experimented with them. Maybe David actually worked with a group of scientists on the space station, secretly using them all as just subjects for his own continued experiments regarding the Xenos, and they all died with just the facehugger eggs left.
@@RaikenXionI guess in theory you are definitely correct. Anything like that is entirely possible of course. Nothing about David's story between covenant and Romulus has been written as you say. Well said buddy but whatever way they try to explain this, I just hope they don't screw it up 😮
Alien Resurrection was amazing. Admit it.
Clone Ripley was cool. The Mercenaries were cool. It was like Alien combined with a Quentin Tarantino film.
@@TheSwordfish009 it was rubbish
Maybe I read too much into a particular wording, but I noticed it was "Yutani" and not "Weyland-Yutani". I could imagine a situation where they try and explain synthetics and their issues/differences (David/Bishop/Ash) as a difference between founders/owners. Or even an explanation for the different Xenomorphs that we will see, but like I said I might be reading too much into the choice of wording.
I'm a old school guy (mostly old) I didn't like Alien when it first came out. It gave me nightmares. But of course I had to study the film in college. I began to see that it was a perfect movie and not just a horror flick. Alien is not the picture I thought it was. After watching it a few times I began to pay attention to all the details. There are so many questions that are not answered. So when Prometheus came out I was happy to see that it answered all my questions. Most people didn't like it because they really needed to pay attention. All the answers are there. The Extended version with all the outtakes is the perfect film. But I was disappointed when Covenant pulled back the story in an attempt to satisfy critics who turns out didn't like it anyway. Hopefully Rumulus will get back to the storyline and continue the mythology.
Good to hear. Yes, I hope we get more of a continuation in not just this film but many more if they are decent quality of course. Hopefully we will get some course correction with the recent prequels as well as some answers.
i spent my life thinking the space jockey was some mysterious weird alien in it's own right then they ppoo'd on that with Prometheus, man that jon spaights writes crappy scripts, i could've come up with a better story for space jockey creature when i was 9 in '79
I heard the trailer will be released tomorrow,I just hope it's cut like the trailers for the first 4 films,the last trailer for Covenant gave away the beats of many scenes.
They should just release teaser trailers . O lot of stories a completely spoiled by trailers now a days .
Well it's out now and although I have mixed feeling, it does look good at least.
I agree the Alien Covenant trailer and Jurassic World 2 trailer both literally made me not want to see a movie I was hyped for. I don't mind verbal spoilers but seeing shots that completely reveals the ending is such a mood killer. It felt like the director bursted out my chest, put on a hat and started dancing.
Having Humans/David create the Xenomorph is already a sin on the franchise, but how did they create essentially the same thing twice?
I am more impressed that they found and caught something travelling at the speed of an atomic explosion, it just happened to be a xenomorph.
Recon the Franchise and have the Space Jockeys as the AVP Galaxy lore as the Bio mechanical nightmare society that they are.
Maybe I'm way off, but I don't credit David for 'creating' the Xenomorph. I think the black goo in Prometheus serves as kind of a... nanotechnological monster template, which can be used to create a variety of Xenomorph and xeno-adjacent creatures.
I hope I am wrong but I am afraid this movie will be call Alien Hemorrhoid
I think you are correct.
Thought by the title it was an Alien-Star Trek cross over! Aliens in the Romulan Empire would be fun😂
I would much rather see an Alien 5 with Sigourney Weaver. But yeah, I hope this one will be good.
Finger crossed then aye
20 years ago I would have agreed with you but the problem is... Actors age. This is not a knock on Weaver at all. She's probably my favorite actress like, ever and her creation in Ellen Ripley is hands down one of the greatest heroines to ever grace the silver screen. But unfortunately, she's 74, and I just don't see her strapping on the old M-41 pulse rifle at this point. I'd like to see her make an appearance in the upcoming television series, but as a different character... Like I'd like to see her playing like a ruthless Weyland-Yutani researcher or one an evil corporate executive, something like that.
I is fascinated to me that in the future they will recruit a very young adult lady to work in an interstellar spaceship.
I think you are correct.
Every classic franchise has been ruined by "new" and "better" and "more" and "bigger," with huge doses of CGI and jumpy shakey camera. And (while Alien and Terminator did introduce us to fantastic feminine heroes) the over-use of unrealistic tough women heroes has been so overplayed to have now ruined basically every classic film action/thriller film series. It's so tiresome. Seriously. Is every 110 pound woman in the world the next super tough hero?!! It's become so mind-numbingly dumb. Can't they just write a good compelling film and cast believable characters?
Here's the problem with Aliens once you realize their kryptonite is baking soda they are suddenly less scary.
Silicon based lifeform
Baking soda.... would do nothing
@@dedlunchin think it was a joke
@@Puppy_Puppington yes, you are probably right
Autist and literal thinker, my mistake
More scary would be "Alien: Dead People",
where the entire cast is made up of AI-generated likenesses of beloved Hollywood actors who have recently died.
"In space, I see dead people scream."
The curse of the next logical step.
Be Careful what you wish for 😉
AVP immediately sprung to mind. Sounds like we might be going like the recent Star Wars movies with spectacle over story. Really hope I'm wrong.
My reaction to the first trailer was simply "It looks like any other ALIEN video game."
I wouldn't mind some more video games on the level of Isolation.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEThat was indeed a masterwork.
If this movie doesn't work out I honestly think video games is the route this franchise should take.
So, we will watch again a creature that doesn't eat, doesn't piss, doesn't poop, doesn't speak, doesn't feel, doesn't have mercy, doesn't have remorse or weaknesses, only grows in hours and kills everyone in sight .. OK, we have seen all these, many times.. So, what's new?
Yeah, when you break it down like that, it really reveals the importance of having a good story with a point to it and likeable characters to take us through it. You never know, it might be ok ;)
I reckon Ashs' report back to the company net would have put them tracking Ripleys escape, then finding the big guy easily. Then leaving Ripley to drift in space because she knew the truth about the Nostromo disaster (her fault as in Aliens and the company inquest 57 years later) IMHO
There are so many gaps to be filled with stories and connections between these films that I do wonder how Romulus will ultimately tie in with the existing canon. I just hope it's well written.
The movie is helmed by Fede Alvarez, the guy has not made a single bad movie, it's in good hands...
He also hasn't made a single great movie either, his biggest problem is his casting, and this is the same problem we have with this movie.
With cast like this, it's practically impossible to make good movie. It's expected to be woke mediocre film, with forced diverse twinks and lesbians running in space. Edit: Just learned it's from Disney rofl. Of course it is. Movie doesn't have a chance unfortunately. Just hoping that enough people will hate watch it so they make money back at least
Evil dead was shite
His movies are mediocre at best.
@@stateazureDon't Breathe is a masterpiece, for what it is. If this film has half of the intensity of Don't Breathe, we're in good hands.
Interestingly Prey did not receive a cinema release in any territory, and no one is talking the numbers from week two on wards as Hulu discovered what the term "front end load" means. AR is getting a cinema release which indicates the Studio is confident this one is going to be a commercial success. The problem with the Alien franchise is no one is finding the Xeno frightening anymore and we basically get the same tropes movie after movie. My concern is they are going down the Jaws route, if a large shark is frightening to audiences (movie 1) then lets make them even larger, and hey they can roar, movie 2 to movie 4. This falls more into the realms of self parody than improving on what we have seen previously. Prey was a much better movie than I was expecting, still with huge issues, so I hold out hope for AR and will be there opening weekend.
Great vid dude, at least someone is telling it how it is rather than getting caught in a simp frenzy.
Much appreciated buddy and your analogy and interpretation makes sense. I always am concerned by what studios regard aa success when anticipating a films reception but I think it's mostly down to stats and numbers on a commercial basis rather than understanding what made the OG films so great. I agree that sometimes they just look at how to add and add until the the creature stops being what it once was. Look at what they did in the Predator movie with giant predators and then a predator killing suit at the end of the film, absolute trash. Anyways, let's 'prey' this one respects where it came from and also respects us.
Prey sucked ass and it had high numbers because hulu had nothing else on it
@@paulie.walnuts2838 I thought it was really bad too.. So much hype
It was dumb to make and release prey so imagine putting in into theaters
My thoughts exactly on the Alien, everyone knows what the Alien looks like and what it does. It's going to be difficult to make the Alien scary again or get the feeling of fear of the unknown from the first film.
According to rumours from the script writers,Neill Blomkamp movie was about the Sulaco ship
drifting in space after the emergencypods were released.On the ship there were a xenomorph
hidden in the lower basement of the spaceship.After fifty years they are detected by another
ship bringing colonists to a new terraformed planet for humans.They send in two robots to
investigate.They find traces of dna in the ships database,and clones Hicks,Ripley and Newt.
But as clones they don't remember anything of the events that took place in the alien3 movie.
When they arrive at the colonists destinyplanet,the xenomorph starts to lay eggs.
Then all humans on the planets are attacked and a war breaks out.Ripley,Hicks and Newt manages to
escape in a spaceship they find in a cave. It is a engineer spaceship that takes them to the
engineers homeplanet called"Paradise".But when they have left the spaceship,a deacon crawls out
and makes a cliffhanger for a followup movie 😀
Thanks for this info!
I think that film would have been incredible and can you imagine the special effects that he would have used? District 9 blew everyones mind when it came out.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE My idea for an alien tv-series is as follows: It takes place just before the events in the first alien movie and happens on a planet near where the nostromo spaceship
is shipping ore.
Weyland-Yutani is on the planet and have terraformed it for years,when they discovers a cave with lots of xenomorph eggs.
One of them get's infected and a xenomorph is born. It turns out to be a queen,and a lot of the Weyland-Yutani humans are infected and then
a war breaks out.
All the humans on the planet are wiped out and only a few manage to escape in a spaceship.Then they nuke the planet from orbit.
Then Weyland-Yutani regrets the decision and a hunt for the xenomorph begins.They get a tip that there's a crashed spaceship on lv426 and sends
the robot Ash on the Nostromo spaceship.
But they are informed that the mission has failed and that Nostromo has gone missing.Then Weyland-Yutani get's
a tip about an xenomorph on Fiorina161 and sends a team of researchers there.They finds a surviving prisoner that is impreagnated and a queen is born.
Weyland-Yutani then wants to use the xenomorphs on the planets where the engineers are located because they want the technology to seed planets with life.
They also want the elixir that provides humans with prolongued life.After they have managed to give birth to a flock of xenomorphs,they drops them
on an engineer planet and causes everyone of them to die.
Then they get hold of the blue elixir that gives
prolongued life.But several ships with engineers that where away from their planet when Weyland-Yutani wiped the
population out,pursue them and manages to get the elixir back,but gets trapped on the planet where both parties
crash.Then a battle takes place and the crew from Weyland-Yutani gets the elixir that gives them prolongued life
for thousands of years,but they are now trapped on the planet,with no means to get anywhere.But then
they see a light aproaching,but is the spaceship friends or foes ?
It turns out it is the engineers and after a battle they gets hold off the blue elixir once again,and that
gives the cliffhanger for a second season that we must wait several years to see???
@@user-sc9li1qt1e That's the sort of thing I would love to see played out in a mature anime or something. Taking the time to tell it properly.
The production art showed Hicks having his scarred face from the events of Aliens. How would his clone have the same scarring?
It was always said Blomkamp was going to ignore the events of Alien 3 entirely.
What made Alien special was the cast and the story. It was truly scary. What made Aliens special and even better was the same but a much better cast and an awesome story… been down hill since. I am not holding my breath on this one.
I didn't think the Aliens cast was better than the first but definitely more animated and with a military kind of bravado etc. but I agree with you otherwise. I feel like the regurgitating of the same old ideas will no doubt affect this film too sadly.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE the cast of Aliens could not have been better for that movie. Of the 2 its my favorite. But Alien was a solid movie and definitely ground breaking.
@@jond1965 yeah, there was no weak link in either buddy. Perfect cast for each type of film as you say. Newt nowadays of course would be entitled and possess the character traits of Greta Thunberg lol.
The whole 'needle in a haystack' argument is bang on. Why do we keep banging up against Ripley or her daughter when there is a whole galaxy of people out there? Those unconnected stories of alien from Alien Day a few years back were amazing for the diversity of stories, but the films are stuck in a rut.
@@tedankhamenbonnah4848 true, they were fun. I actually want a mature animated series of series of films that have great stories to prove it can be done, so why not in live action. 👍
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE This is why I bought the Alien RPG. If you want it done right, do it yourself.
@@tedankhamenbonnah4848 is that an RPG game on computer of do you mean dice etc? Sounds interesting 🤔
So what exactly was the point of Prometheus and Covenant?
Best pretend they never happened.
Haha, a good question my friend. Hopefully we will see some issues being tied up I hope.
Money and exploring different ideas that showed promise (what would it feel like to meet your maker and ask them questions, who were the space jockeys and engineers and why was the derelict space ship on LV426, philosophical questions about meaning and existence from the perspective of humans, synthetics, the xenomorphs, etc?)
@@JoLap42 The crappy thing about meeting our makers like that is it answers nothing, really. All it does is shift the answerless question to who made the makers/Engineers. It was a futile and pointless pursuit for the filmmakers to undertake. It is a bit like trying to imagine what is beyond our universe, or what is god, because the question simply shifts to where did that come from, who made god, in an endless search of infinity - it is incomprehensible. Something every ten year old should have considered and moved on from.
Prometheus was an excellent idea but the covenant ruined everything..
Trailer comes out tomorrow . . . . Enjoy the journey! I was there in 1979 and will be there on August 16, 2024! Don't OVERTHINK THIS . . . Sit back and enjoy the MOVIE . . . .
How do you know it's tomorrow? I was hearing alien day. Thanks!
Tomorrow? There are weirdly so many fake trailers online for this film I'm actually worried I'm gonna watch the wrong one haha. Not seen an official trailer yet though
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Trailer Out . . . What do think . . . I think ROMULUS will be the 3rd best in the series ... Impressive Trailer! ruclips.net/video/GTNMt84KT0k/видео.html&ab_channel=20thCenturyStudios
"Don't overthink this... sit back and enjoy the movie"
What horrid, non critical, consumer thinking.
@@bjrnhalfhand2258 It's just a Science Fiction Movie based on Entertaining, Fans of 45 year-old Franchise . Anyone that makes more of it than just that . . . Has way too much time on their hands . . . .
As bad as the newest movies in the Alien franchise may have been in some folk’s opinions, I genuinely feel like this is going to be a home run. As a life long Alien fan, I’m tired of being burned, but I’m ready for a W and think we have one here.
I'm currently working on my trailer breakdown but it looked promising I have to say. Did you see it yet?
them finding the xeno in space floating can be explained by 2 things...one ripley could have been found but they didnt want to find her because she was a witness and they didnt really care about her...and two they used predator tech to scan and find it
Oooohh, not sure how people are gonna feel about adding predator tech into the Alien universe buddy 😉😉 Gotta keep those two separate I think.
I'm looking forward to this the abandoned space station & new weapons tech sounds straight out of the Aliens: Fireteam Elite game can't wait to see the trailer
Glad you're looking forward to it and I hope my worries are unjustified in the end but I definitely think the film will be a blast in terms of action and gore, maybe very fun. I just can't see it competing with the originals in terms of story maturity etc. hopefully I'm wrong hehe, take care buddy.
I was fully onboard until you got to the part where they somehow recovered and dissected the original Alien. I could understand maybe a W-Y ship sneaking in right after Aliens and grabbing the queen since she was simply flushed into space near LV-426, but the original thing was supposed to have been vaporized by the shuttle engines out in the middle of deep space.
It reeks of the Force Awakens first draft of Luke's hand and lightsaber floating through space towards Jakku.
haha, what a star was movie that would have been... Oh wait, did we really get much better? Yeah, I just hope those leaks are rubbish and we get something more mature than that. I really wish we could see a full trailer as that would give us so many more answers.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I did like the draft opening that had the 2 tractor beam ships hauling the wrecked Star Destroyer to Jakku. Either way, the final opening of TFA is still probably one of the better scenes of the movie.
Stuff like that is what makes me wish the Alien saga had ended at 3, if no one can possibly conceive of an Alien movie without it having Ripley or an alien from the original Derelict. The comics, books, games, and even Prometheus at least established that things could happen in all the random corners of the galaxy, and there are plenty of other grotesque creatures out there besides the basic xenomorph that could be incorporated into a movie or series.
"You remember characters, not story"
Most important rule of filmmaking...
Im afraid we wont have much of either...
Characters are key, I agree. It would be an amazing feat for these youngsters to impact on us in the same manner that the crew from the Nostromo or Sulako had on us for sure. We'll see ;)
"Youngsters", exactly. ALIEN: 90210 @@ENTERTAINtheDUDE
Alien had a really simple plot. Crew trapped in a confined dark space with a Xenomorph.
That gives more time for character development.
We have a great director behind this, and he seems passionate about this project.
It'll all rely on the acting prowess and whether or not the studio will allow the original vision and not meddle with it.
Fingers crossed.
Very good point. Let's see what happens. I have nothing but hope for good things to come but it's really 50/50 at this point.
Prometheus and Covenant did nothing to slow the long decline of this franchise and Romulus sounds like it is going to pander to the worst elements of fandom by having a group of youths confronting (and winning) against what is supposed to be the deadliest form of alien life.
I hope they don’t win. Humans should lose for once
Indeed. You summed it up nicely. But we still have hope, hope springs eternal (but i'm not very hopeful)
I don't mind the odd facehugger becoming toast but I agree that the outcome should be grim for the humans.
Well to make it fair, Both Ridley and Cameron apparently loved it so im sure itll be great. The black goo aspect has never bothered me. I loved the Prequels and the theming. Only thing that makes me eyeroll is admittedly the Xeno drifting through space and magically randomly drifting through space and being found lol
That could be promising but then they've said the same thing about other films that come under their guidance like Terminator Dark Fate when Cameron said it was great and then... It wasn't. Like I said in the vid, I hope I'm wrong but I'm just trying to be level headed hehe
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEforgive me man i completely re-edited my comment because i ignorantly made my comment 3 min into the video. My current comment is my true thoughts now after the video being finished. My apologies man, enjoyed the video
Since it's a rescue and retrieve dart Ripley used it would be highly likely it was fitted with a tracking device.
That's one hell of a signal that can communicate so far away but it may also be the best reasoning perhaps.
My worry is that alien was paced very slow and its more artsy even for its time than anyone would think to give it credit for. Aliens was a product of its time as well, its a lot like all james cameron films of that era. Generally speaking none of the reboots of classic films live up to the nostalgia we have for them or their quality. The modern "good filmmaking" becomes very obviously poor when you've got something genius with "outdated filmmaking" to compare it to. I think studios just want to follow a formula and follow expectations with no regard for quality of the artistic work.
I'd really rather have more prometheus films with less studio meddling and input. Less forced xenomorphs, less throwbacks to alien, and less CGI. Both were fascinating and beautiful films. Both desperately need to be recut.
Yeah sometimes new is far better than a forced regurgitated formula story, even if it doesn't work out. At least they took a risk.
Didn't Ripley blast the MF with the engines of the escape pod, turning it to xenomorph BBQ at the end of the first movie?
Ah yup :-)
Yes, although you do see the body floating away afterwards.
Aliens bleed acid and can survive being submerged in molten lead.
And there were eggs in the Derelict, years later a colony were built on that said planet.
And then surveyors find that same derelict Nostromo found years ago and came back with a Facehugger.
it's odd that bullets can penetrate the exoskeleton easily enough but the exhaust from a space craft maybe did nothing? Who knows haha
The original alien being found does not seem stupid to me. The alien was shot out around the crash sight of the nostromo. Wayland would have investigated the crash and then potentially would have found the alien.
As long as they give an intelligent solution, sure
The original alien was vaporized according to the script. I guess it's just going to be like the star wars emperor being brought back without any rational explanation.
Way too sci-fi!?…. lol.
I can’t wait for this film. People just need to enjoy the fact the alien franchise is still interesting enough to provide new movies.
🍿
Too sci-fi meaning less grounded of course but we shall see. If the film doesn't offer anything new then it will maybe only interest the people that mindlessly consume most of the crap that comes out these days. But as I say, I'm on the fence and am hoping it will be scary and violent with a good enough story and acceptable performances. I really need this film to be good and was simply voices some concerns many seem to share 👍😉
Just the fact that it’s such a young cast tells you alot about what to expect. I think this is way too hyped and I’m not expecting anything too inspiring. I’m sure visually it’s gonna be amazing but nothing like the original ones.
I also think it will be exactly that. That's why I try to stay grounded about these films and not let hype dictate my thoughts when making these vids. I don't think I found another soul on RUclips being critical of the trailer haha
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I haven’t seen one either:-)
Wetland-Yutani could have recorded the moment that the xenoporph was blown out of the airlock and roughly pinpointed its trajectory in space.
they must have quantum computers by then right? Surely those measurements are a possibility hehe
That Alien Was Killed/Destroyed!
Also radar and scanners have advanced.
So, now we have an alien immune to jet blast injuries, and can live extended periods (presumably days, weeks, or even months) floating in space?! And they can locate it? Yet Ripley floated for 6 decades and was only found by luck? This sounds like a desperate B-movie plot device created by a 15 - year old writer.
This new movie reminds me of the PS4 game Isolation, what with the space station being next to Gas giant. If it is similar to the game, Brilliant
The external shot in the trailer looked incredible
The fact the planet plays a role in this movie, has me hoping for a potential Empress! (Or similar)
We know the Xenomorphs have a Hierarchy.
Hoping this will be touched upon further! 👌
It's possible it could set something special up for future sequels i guess. As long as this one is a success of course. I don't mind them taking the narratives of comic books etc as long as it stays mature enough.
It seems really odd that W-Y would leave a space station, upon which they experimented on xenos, to just float around abandoned. Not that the crew would be able to destroy it if/when things go pear-shaped (if they were overwhelmed, doubtful they could self-destruct it like the Nostromo was). However, I have a feeling W-Y would try to salvage it (for he research), or "nuke it from orbit" so that no one else could get it.
I dunno....just seems off, to me. As in, "Well, we had to have SOME way of having the story take place. Therefore, idiotic choices."
Yep, plenty vapona and, good as new lol
Maybe as in Aliens they new colonists nearby would interact with the station in time but agian, makes little sense haha
Agreed, just from the basic information there are far, far too many plot holes and unimaginably bad plot devices. W/Y (or whomever is studying these) has a big multi-billion dollar interest in these? How is it these are abandoned? No distress signals, nobody shows up? And the other unrealistic device is apparently discovering a floating alien in space, which sounds just ridiculous. And the group of teenager DEI stars is another bad sign, as is the obviously over-used CGI and saturation rather than practical effects. And jump scares... looks really bad to be honest.
Oh come on, it’s only teen angst set in the Alien universe. What could possibly go wrong?
Well, I have a list ;)
Finally someone not just saying how amazing the movie looks. This just looks like rehashed territory. Also why are they changing an already perfect organism? That’s ego. Geiger already did it best.
Well said sir. I should be putting out my trailer reaction in the next couple of days and there are things honestly I like and definitely things I didn't. I'm also surprised by how many RUclipsrs are eating it up, makes no sense to me lol.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I absolutely agree. I really want this movie to be good to revitalize the Alien franchise. But all other reviewers are just getting caught up in how good it looks. It DOES look good. But if they're changing creature design... Oof. That's potentially a huge no-no imo.
I worry this will be "The Force Awakens" of the Alien franchise: a good film that plays things too safe and familiar but doesn't really advance the story/universe/anything in any meaningful way.
I get your fears and I share them, but as for the Big Chap dilemma, I would think the company may have been monitoring the progress of the Nostromo and once the ship was blown they may have sent in a a salvage team to bring back any traces of the alien and this could be when they found the big chap.
You know, I can't think of a better explanation if any than what you just said. Otherwise it truly makes no sense. Well find out soon I guess
I would like nothing more for this to be a great Alien movie, however any ties to Scott's so called "prequels" already worries me. Those two movies don't even feel like Alien movies but something different altogether. If they were stand alone movies with no ties to Alien, I would have liked them more than I currently do. To me, there are only three entries in the Alien universe - Alien, Aliens and Alien Isolation... the rest are just fanfiction to me.
i agree, stand alone, fine. But because they were so heavily attached, they need to be more clever and subtle, alas they were not :(
I am happy that your third pick was Alien: Isolation
@@ValSchnitzel it was not only a perfect gaming experience but a fantastic story as well.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I agree. I used to play games when I was young, the last one I remember playing in my childhood was Duke Nukem 3d, but Alien: Isolation really pulled me back. Amazing game, amazing story and amazing atmosphere.
Teenage drama with alien thrown in and don’t be happy over the violence for all we know it’s someone bleeding from their finger and the crew are just a bunch of whimps
I don’t care what the haters say. I WANT ANYTHING ALIEN NOW. I wanna know what happens next. I want a live action/video game take on Alien: Earth War and beyond. I want Alien Romulus now.
You might be the target audience then ;) Let's just hope the story is well suited to Alien fans more than casuals.
it is always possible it will be good. I'm optimistic. I didn't hate the Prometheus era movies. They had good special effects. I just thought Alien 4 was terrible. LOL It shouldn't exist. The other ones were fine.
What they should do is make Alien Isolation into a film. Great plot, scary, exciting, interesting.
I honestly believe that if they make an indie style film of an Isolation adaption with a lower budget, it would rock. I just find that the bigger films tend more to fail cause of the pressure put on them. Right now, I just wanna be scared but I also wouldn't mind if the story was smart either for Romulus, fingers crossed 👍
So, "Alien Romulus" is a version of the "Alien: Isolation" game? Does this mean that no director worth his weight in Cocaine will ever visit the Xenomorph homeworld? Never underestimate the lack of vision/courage of post-modern Hollyweird.
'Xenomorph Prime' was teased at the end of the 2010 Aliens vs. Predator game. Too bad there was no follow-up.
There is no homeworld
That would be so difficult to do. Might need a heavy team of writers to not fuck that one up...
They don't have a homeworld you prat
A xenomorph home world sounds cringe tbh.
Personally, I loved Prometheus and i liked Covenant. I would have loved them to continue Davids story but i guess that will never happen. Of course i loved Alien and Aliens, didn't really like Alien 3, but i did like Alien Resurrection which i know isn't popular. I know all the leaks of Romulus and i'm glad you didn't mention some of them because it destroys a lot of the shock and surprise, and if this is all you know, even better. I personally wish i didn't know them because i wanted to be surprised. But i take responsibility for my own actions and i didn't need to read what i read. Anyway, i'm still excited. can't wait for Alien Romulus.
David might not be done, I've heard a rumor about David and the other synthetics in the film. The brother of the main character is a wey/yu creation too.
Weirdly I prefer Alien 3 to Ridley's recent two films, maybe I'm weird haha but we all have our preferences I guess. I would also love for Ridley to continue with his films and I certainly never hated them either. There were many aspects that I absolutely loved but also things I found annoying. Yeah I'm with you on the leaks I won't be going any further with spoilers as I actually don't know too much more than what I discussed luckily, take care guys.
@@winstonwolfwhiteshoes if they bring in David as well as Ian Holmes android then that would be a massive surprise 🫢
If Romulus is a hit then Scott will get to do his final prequel, why do you think he's producing Romulus AND the upcoming alien TV series. Use your loaf for goodness sake!
@@winstonwolfwhiteshoes No David in Romulus but we are getting something related to Ash, possibly an earlier model, plus we're also going to see the black goo linking this movie to the prequels.
love to see something very fresh and new not the same Xenomorphs ~ hope we can see the Engineers from the movie Prometheus
Think it will be narrowly focused on xenos but I also hope we learn a bit more about the origins of them instead of simply they came from David...
Massive Alien fan here...hoping for the best! However, I saw a interview with Fede and he described the movie as a "rock concert" where you went to see and hear all the old songs and one or two new ones...that sounds AWEFUL to me. As I HATE when my favorite movies have a sequel made where they just rehash old scenes and copy "epic" dialog and lines from the original to be easter eggs to long awaiting "fans"....ugh...I hope not!
I completely see your point. Rehashing old stuff just means they've completely missed the point in my opinion. The more I read these comments the more I realise I'm definitely not alone in my thoughts when I made the vid haha
…and then they complain we’re just “toxic fans”….no…we just like a FRESH take on an old favorite!!
Director Fede Alvarez was born in 1978. Keep that in mind.
"Christ I'm old!"
@@Scottocaster6668 I think it's more like lucky to be alive at that era.
I was born in 1984 and feel i was lucky enough and just old enough to experience true greatness in cinema before it all became nonsense haha
@@Khultan Yeah, it was. Born in '66. So being 10 in the mid '70s, Graduated in '85, I'd say it was pretty darn glorious!
Oof.
The problem is that one cannot re-create the lightning in a bottle that was Alien. I will gladly settle for a normal slasher if it isnt too stupid
I think most of us will end up settling imo
11:09 makes me think the gruesome scene might have to do with someone having their face ripped off when pulling at a facehugger
It could well be. It won't be the Asian actress as from the trailer we know that there was no damage to her face whilst she had a chest burster inside her. Whatever it is, I hope it makes the audience squirm.. 👍
Probably best just to chill and wait. Don’t go in with too much in mind. Just chill, hope for the best
I do prefer to be chill, good advice sir 👍
The xeno in the first movie couldn’t have survived for long. I’m no expert about xenomorphs but I heard that they only live for a couple days. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Not sure how anything could survive in space period! But they don't produce body heat so maybe some form of hibernation?? As for Thier lifespan, they must live much longer surely. In Aliens I think some months had gone by while Newt was hiding.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEmaybe a big twist will be they have the alien from the first movie in cryo which gets defrosted and goes on a rampage.
@@19hadley74 well that worked great in The Thing hehe.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Alian v The Thing, it's the next big franchise
The fact we haven't seen a trailer yet speaks volumes.
No it doesn’t.
@@prpwnage9296 😆
@@RockyRoyale84 you don’t know what you are talking about. How does it speak volumes?
@@prpwnage9296 did I trigger another Biden voter... relax.
@@RockyRoyale84 so you don’t have a reason for your fake opinion
So all of the Alien films have had a female lead, wouldn't the simplest change of formula be to just have one movie with a male lead? Definitely in agreement we don't need a new form of Xeno. The original ones established in the first 3 (yes think the dog aliens (runners) make sense). The new forms will likely be goofy, nonsensical and only serve to undermine the traditional xeno.
Judging from the new poster I noticed that the aliens teeth look all perfect and symmetrical. Major turn off as it looks like a fan Photoshop poster. For it to be scary it should never have been designed so well, perfection is boring.
I'm remaining positive, but all this talk of genetic experiments and new breeds of alien just turns me off. I think the worst thing that ever happened to alien was the suggestion of them being weaponized. This led to liberal use of the term "bioweapon" without really knowing what it meant, and that led to all the shenanigans in alien 4. And of course, it retroactively led to the Prometheus storyline of engineers and alien goo. It's just gone way off track of what alien was all about. They're meant to be inexplicable and unexplainable. Horrific creatures that cannot be understood or reasoned with, and they absolutely will not stop until you are dead. I'm pretty sure I stole that from somewhere. But, turning them into biological experiments and "scary new varieties" doesn't make them scarier. It makes them less mysterious. It's like fodder for a action movie not a horror movie.
HAHA, pretty sure you stole it from one of my other favourite movies involving a cybernetic organism from the future perhaps but I'm no snitch ;) Yes btw, one of the biggest achievements with these older films was the sense of mystery and not knowing where they came from. Contrary to popular belief withing the writers room these days, I do believe that protecting those mysteries would be a pleasant surprise for most mature audiences these days.
If Ridley Scott says it's a great film then it probably isn't. Hollywood doesn't make good films anymore, it's all virtue signalling and tired writing.
Then the time for honoring themselves should be over! Part of me doesn't really care that they f****d up Star Wars anymore, but now Alien.....
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Disney cater to the minority now not the majority. They’ve probably hired the woman who messed up Bud Light as their new director of projects. I have no faith that our beloved Alien franchise will be any different.
Hopefully the “fleshy” xeno is more neomorph than any of that garbage from Resurrection. I hope there is absolutely zero influence from that cinematic dung.
Completely agree my friend
Personally, I'm excited for this one after seeing the teaser trailer.
As long as the characters are good and the action is fun, I'll call it a win.
I'm not expecting a masterpiece. But maybe this will be enough to give this deserving franchise the boost it needs so that we can get those masterpiece movies made in the future.
I feel the same in regards to the movie giving the franchise another launching platform for something better or simply more of the same. I guess the snob in me wants perfection like in the past haha. Currently dissecting the trailer and it really is a mixed bag for me. Glad you're excited for it though mate and I hope it is good enough.
I think this is going to be the most hyped up movie of 2024.
@@jaydub7386 it absolutely is, I mean, it's Alien 😉
I am skeptical aswell - The cast is very young and multicultural making me think generic target mass audience, the safe card so to speak.
I have a question though - Why isnt capitalistic competition working to bring us better movies?
Competition is heralded as the end-all-be-all solution for better products but theres been like 3 decades of rather crappy alien, terminator, predator movies - Why isnt the competition working??
Interesting point. It's almost like the ideas for these films are very inclusive in a way that exist in a bubble not affected by the competitive market. It's very backwards when you think how much $$$ Disney are losing due to their arrogance. I could do better market research and profit projection for them based on what stories i think would work than their current employees haha.
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEif they were handling the prometheus idea properly, we could speak about a great saga.
@@mikcurius3779 What could have been huh?
If it doesn't reinforce the ORIGINAL canon and fix the GARBAGE that was both Prometheus and Covenant, I'm not interested. And, so far, if the "how the xenomorph ended up on a station" is accurate, it's complete BS and utterly defies the events that led up to Aliens. This is going to be stupid. It sounds like the only thing they are doing is using the alien character and heavier gore to make a quick dollar from the shallow public.
Yep, I agree. It sucks that they feel the need to to dumb down in rapid succession the original concept with imbecilic ridiculousness. It was better when the Xenimorph alien was a naturally evolutionary species encountered, instead of a bioweapon created by a god-complexed android and a black goo manipulated by space engineers. Preposterous!
Completely agree. But I think the only way to fix what prometheus and covenant did is to forget that they existed
Well you may be right but I think the blowback from true fans would affect Fede's career at this point. You make an Evil dead remake and fluff it up, it gets forgiven. Alien however, fans are gonna speak up.
@@machaolesplendide Spot on.
Have not heard a lot about the upcoming film, but one thing that worries me is the casting. Everyone seems to be young and pretty. That seems to be a trend in other franchises like Star Trek spinoffs. Not that I want ugly people but if you cast for looks, that is often all you get.
Image does seem to take precedent sometimes. The Nostromo cast were never sex symbols obviously but damm they were interesting to watch.
Be good to have a male lead for an alien film. That would be groundbreaking for the franchise
But they may just make him vulnerable if they do that haha
Nah the Alien will complain about him being toxic
No official trailer is the most worrying part about this film.
Release is August and I actually think that a teaser just before Alien day and then a full trailer on the day is a great idea. Of course it would be nice to see what they have done with the film as soon as ;)
I doubt Disney can do alien justice, sounds like they are taking a step back and letting creative freedom drive this, but i have high doubts when it comes to disney, they just cant help themselves
It would be nice to know how much control Fede had over this film. It will all depend on these crucial conditions when it comes to Disney. Star Wars behind the scenes has been one big drama...
My main concern would have to be the writing. Honestly, I enjoyed the direction Prometheus (and the fancut?) was heading towards, and I wish we had gotten the initial concept, but then we were given Covenant, and that was just abysmal. What has been shown, or discussed about? I'm on board, but most films these days have terrible scripts/writing/dialogue, and I have this aching suspicion this may be a film that'll have a lot of Twitter/TikTok bullshit, if you get my meaning. I want to be wrong, obviously, but I'll need to see how this crew is portrayed first.
Yeah at least Romulus is a big step away from those films and has every opportunity to reignite the passion for Aliens among the fans while still exploring the android theme but that all depends on if it will be good or not 😉
Fede doesn't disappoint, especially in the horror department.. His resume speaks for itself
I wasn't that impressed with his Evil Dead remake as I can barely remember it but I really like his other films.
I fear it will be a DEI crew, carrying that Narrative forward... covered in blood.
it doesn't matter as long as the acting is solid
@@SM-ce1uy i find that sad. Are you a young person?
DEI lol, I am starting to feel old learning all these modern terms and abbreviations that apply to the young and offended.
Sounds disappointing to me. The research station has already been done. Sadly we will never get closure in how the juggernaut ended up where it did with a bay full of eggs. The idea was Scott to finish the saga. That was supposed to be the end game for Scott. This sound disappointing at best. I will be taking a pass.
Prometheus was a start, introducing the engineers and their use of the juggernauts as a transport for weapons of mass destruction. The black goo was a bad idea, there was none of this in the original ship in alien, just a chamber full of eggs /facehuggers. Covenant just perpetuated the joke with a particularly insipid lead female - I thought Karine Oram had more about her than Daniels
That Juggernaut has my brain on fire as a kid. So many times I would ponder on just wtf happen on board and where it came from. I imagine in the future things like the engineers and goo can be reversed but probably not while Ridley is alive.
One thing that I could never figure out. It seems implied that David made the Xenomorphs. Or that they came from the engineer that was attacked and the Deacon came from that and is a precurser. But in Prometheous the was a figure sculped on the wall that was a Queen or a Drone. So the Xenomorphs existed before David was involved. How does this all work? The trilobyte that impregnated the engineer, Davids experiments and the Xenomorphs from before can't all possibly be linked because they came from 3 different scources.
Anyone?
I like to think that the Xenomorph was a creature that we stumbled upon, not engineered. I hate the concept introduced in Prometheus and then in Covenant.
A good point to bring up @BlackAdder1970. I always interpreted it as the goo was created by the engineers and they learnt it's secrets long ago. They most likely experimented with it and created the xenomorph as well and using the goo for other utilities. As you say, they had a mural on the wall depicting this that was built maybe thousands of years prior to Prometheus. Who knows but hinging the perfect organisms creation on David's experiments was daft to me. Surely he only stumbled upon the goo's potential?
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDEI think the mural is enough evidence to say David didn’t create xenos but simply reverse engineered them. Would have a great irony with how Walter was unable to create if David was also just copying.
@ENTERTAINtheDUDE Yes. It still doesn't explain how the Deacon came from the Engineer at the end of Prometheous
Im absolutely on board with the plot details seen here. A derelict/ran-over space station is exactly where I could see Xenomorphs brooding, waiting. They are a clever species so infiltrating off the station would be horrifying to watch.
As long as things are done tastefully I like the bones of this movie.
Only time will tell. I do hope it surprises me
Let me make a flowchart.
Yes = Bad
No = Good
Is the film a Disney release?
Is Disney writing the script?
Does the film have a strong female lead?
Is the bad guy/characters in the film straight white males?
Avoid this film and have zero expectations that it will deliver. Disney is incapable of creating a story that will blow Alien fans away.
You could definitely apply this to many films from the mighty Disney haha
My issue with Prometheus and Covenant was never the aesthetics - sometimes a juxtaposition elevates the tension - but rather the fact that both films were populated with idiots who behaved irrationally, and in many cases completely against their stated character motivations or even against their own interests. Add in the garbage explanation of the engineers and David being responsible for the Xenos… ugh.
Why would TWO ADULT scientists behave like gucking teenagers with IQ of 57 when encountering an unknown alien life form?
My sentiments exactly. Both those movies were horrendous to the lore of Alien.
I can complete understand your frustration with those films for those reasons. The idiot that touched the giant worm just for fun made me cringe in the cinema when that happened. I would love an explanation from the writers as to why they thought that was a good idea. Maybe something got lost in translation from script to filming but i doubt it...
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE I get serious "Star Wars prequels" vibes from Prometheus and Covenant. In both cases, movie directing giants seemingly had no-one around them to say "this is a shit script that doesn't make any sense whatsoever!?"
@@maddogUK69 I can only imagine how hard it would be to put your hand up to these giants haha. Imagine if that ended your career before it began!
ripley shot the xeno with a harpoon,chances are that harpoon would of had a wayland tracker in it? maybe just a thought
Seems most likely mate.
*Ridley Scott got lost on his own trying to tell a story and studio interference yet again adding their lame and crummy demands.*
Clean tech has nothing to do with undermining a sci-fi story. It's a poorly made story that has everything to do with undermining it.
Story sounds like Resurrection
They're trying to resurrect something that's for sure ;)
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE haha
You said "Ripley" at the end instead of "Ridley"...lol but it's ok
Oh you git! I was hoping nobody would notice that haha, you're the only one that mentioned it ;) I thought I'd leave it in there to demonstrate that i'm not a synthetic...
@ENTERTAINtheDUDE hahaha that's very reassuring. Thank you!
Thanks for saying you hope the leaks stay down. We don’t need anymore going out. The surprises will really be fun for fans and they should really stay away from spoilers.
I can't imagine i'd make anymore videos about leaks, only stuff we see in trailers, promise ;)
@@ENTERTAINtheDUDE 🤝
I'd rather have a movie based on the avp games from 1998 and 2000. The best part about those games are xeno are terrifying, smart and extremely cunning to dealing with the marine who are packing some serious firepower. Hollywood clearly doesn't get it, hence why this movie is already looking like rubbish to me too much focus on the original movie. I want something similar to aliens 2 but with some serious action.
@@joshb8233 god, remember the ambient music while playing as a Xeno? So haunting and it was the first time experiencing playing an alien in a game. Took me a while to get used to sticking in any wall but going through vents and pouncing on people was priceless 👌
Alien's first Xenomorph (Big Chap) being recovered in the middle of space gives me "Somehow... Palpatine Returned" vibes. Dumb as hell, I hope that at least this part of the leak is fake.
I thought they'd do the same with the queen from Aliens, or the queen that sank in AvP.
I hope so too. I mean, there were no other ships in the vicinity of the Nostromo haha. Nothing about it makes sense so I hope it is fake indeed.
@@PeachyCarnehanWI I'm sure she'll show up one day lol
Looks like this movie ain't for you them. We KNOW Big Chap's body is recovered by W/Y and they reverse engineer his DNA back to reveal the black goo from which they create their own creatures. This is all but confirmed now.
@@PeachyCarnehanWI Romulus is set between Alien and Aliens so the Queen hasn't happened yet, and AvP is a separate franchise that Scott already rightly nuked.
I think we should wait and see. Give it a chance. See it as a whole. I really like this director and I love how he has gone more gritty with this. It’s what an Alien film needs. It’s not a family/Disney film! Can’t wait to see.
Oh you're dead right buddy. I look forward to seeing it and hope I enjoy the film but it's still fun to analyse what we see and know so far objectively at least 😁
I'm optimistic and think we'll finally be blessed with a fantastic Alien movie like movies 1 & 2 🙏🙏🙏
I'm assuming it will be garbage but honestly I will be happy if it is even average. I want this movie to be good and succeed it's just that the franchise hasn't put out anything good since the second one.
I'm also hoping for a major change in that regard, trust me. Hopefully we're both wrong but again there are too many warning signs haha.
Wrong!! The 3rd movie was great as well after everything that happened.
In bloomkamp i trusted ...😌
Would have been a hell of a thing to have seen that film. I wonder sometimes how great it actually would have been though. At least it would have fixed the disconnect people felt after watching Alien 3 hehe
He didn't have a script. He had story boards and ideas but ridley didn't want to confuse people by possibly writing off ALIEN 3. I have heard rumors that Neil's version included CLONES of Ripley, Newt, and Hicks. I'm not sure that's true though since the story boards show newt as an adult.
Fede Alvarez > Blomkamp
Ridley wouldnt have given a shit about Alien3 - he cared about Blomkamp stealing his thunder
The film didn’t need to acknowledge the discontinuity at all. It’s always worse if a film tries too hard to say “now *this* is actually what happened”
Let the audience decide whether Alien 3 was a dream in cryo sleep but for god’s sake don’t show it
@@winstonwolfwhiteshoes Yeah I remember seeing some of the images possibly from the storyboards from the time. It did look fascinating.
I stopped caring about any existing good SciFi franchise (Terminator, Alien, Predator) 30 years ago.
It's a good job those films are so damm rewatchable then 😉 Love em
Thanks E.theDude for your insight and report on the leaks for Romulus, so looking forward to another theatre experience with an Alien movie.
Keep up your work, it's appreciated.
Glad you found it helpful buddy. Hope we all get a good experience from the film at the cinema. I'll be there day 1 :)
Don’t get your hopes up, everybody, this film is going to absolutely stink.
Have some faith. AHH what I am talking about, you may be right! 😉