Yeah and wtf was with the engineer people in Covenant. Shaw was going to the engineer homeworld at the end of Prometheus. That's what we wanted to see. Sure, it would be predictable, but that's what everyone wanted. The series was meant to explore the engineers more than the aliens, but they just disappear and it goes back to aliens.
@@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon Yes, it felt like a new frontier getting explored to be honest, not some Xenomorph bull. Sadly we got Covenant crap -_- instead of Prometheus: Paradise Lost.
Simply leaving in that one scene where David and Weyland have a full blown conversation with the engineer would have fixed so many of this movie's problems. :(
Still doesn’t explain why they picked too completely unsuitable crewmen in the Geographer (who got lost) and the Xenobiologist who got scared of 3,000 yr old dead Alien head, but not scared of an alien vagina faced snake in a full threat pose. It doesn’t explain why they ignored any quarantine protocols that were such a bug part of Alien and immediately took their suit helmets off.
@@SvenTviking Yep. It's like they dragged them off the street for this expedition. Insanely stupid. And then there's David. Brrr... At least they gave us a new meme: the Prometheus School of Running Away.
I don't agree. Prometheus could have been good but 2 scenes just made it unforgivably bad. The pathetic frightened bearded jackass with attitude who threw a tantrum and then got himself killed with the other moron who poked a creature he knew nothing about after seeing a dead alien humanoid.... yeah, that was pretty dumb and those two characters were so awful and unlikeable.... Anyway, that and the black goo inconsistencies that was so poorly written that it's effect was whatever it needed to be to create the next eye candy.... Sorry, the movie was just utter garbage and an embarrassment.
I'm not so sure. Yes the movie would have been MUCH better but I would not understand why we would need a sequel like the one we got with Alien Covenant - aka that fascination to visit the engineer's world.
🤣🤣🤣 This, 1000x this! There are SOOO many moments like that. All theyd have had to do is go in, explore, keep their helmets TF-on/not touch anything and be out free. But naturally being human and curious is what got them. Such a long string of dim-wittedly bad decisions 😝
The lack of quarantine protocols ruined both movies multiple times. Granted it would have been boring to include them but in real situations there is zero chance of removing helmets, playing with aliens, ignoring safety and contamination issues, etc
@@AnArChRiStxseditioThey even showed these two being scared of aliens in the beginning and antagonistic towards each other. Then suddenly they started being best buddies and playing with an alien cobra like it's a little puppy. You need at least an entire movie to show that kind of character arc. Scenes like this makes me question not just the movie, but also myself. And as you said, there could be contamination. There might not even be any huge xenomorphs, but microbes and spores would kill a human even here on earth.
@@Urza26 Why would you question yourself? You are right about contamination protocols and building up characters who act in character. Script and story writers are supposed to do research. Perhaps we are to think there was them running out of oxygen making them have to take off their helmets and risk the air and maybe spores breathed in altering their behavior and making them act drunk or lure them to aliens- like toxoplasma gondii in mice.
Absolutely baffling the editing choices that were made for the final cut. Practically every point you made about the deleted material and how they would have enhanced our understanding of various scenes is spot on!
The storytelling is awful, too. There must've been a lot of interference. The characters are unlikeable, every single one of them makes terrible decisions. Rather than feeling like real people, they feel like pastiches or caricatures. The idiosyncratically grounded feeling of the Alien universe was somehow lost completely. It was annoying to say the least.
@@VVeremoose I don't mind movies that leave you surmising but promethius was just a dog's breakfast of BS. I hate directors who tried to be "creative" by leaving out key parts of the story line. The best example is the ending for the Sopranos. David Chase explained that since the entire series was shot through tony's eyes, the black out ending fit. The problem? The series was NEVER shot first person through tony's eyes. In fact, much of the series was shot 3rd person showing all the other character's lives so how can that be "through tony's eyes" if he wasn't there?
I worked for one of the VFX companies on Prometheus and remember the alternate Fifield mutations sequence well - it was actually referred to as "Fifield Lives" internally and along with the opening engineers sequence I view it as some of our best work on the show. Was disappointed to not see it included in the theatrical cut but am happy it at least got to see the light of day for others to enjoy!
Dude the Engineers are the most important thing the original space jockey has left me pondering for decades and the hope to finally understand them had me so excited and turned into a even bigger tease...this movie and it's sequel were capable of such great things. They had actors, the director, the budget, man it could of been great, all the fans wanted was origin story, every one has seen every type of xenomorph again and again, it's played out bring us to something more substantial
I also find the whole idea that the engineers went extinct to be stupid and I don’t understand why anyone even believes that theory. Why would a 100 million plus year old race of biological technology just go away just like that? Well the answer is simple: they didn’t go extinct and are still thriving out in the universe.
@@zen4ever3Yeah, I read somewhere that the Colony David annihilated in Covenant was another creation of the engineers not the engineers themselves. They didn’t even look alike
Scott should have produced an Directors Cut. The movies got many, many fans. It's cold and detailed atmosphere is insanely awesome and the fact they built so many scenes by hand and didn't use a lot of greenscreens is so much better. A DC with many deleted scenes would have been awesome.
Unfortunately, they deleted the most important scenes. I have no idea what they were thinking. A movie about the engineers and their god and planet would be awesome!
because first it was going to reveal too much, making the urge for answers quite resolved, and second because these answers were too shallow, simplistic, incoherent and religion centered, specially on christianity, which would have been a downpoint to many non-christians. It would have been cool to have this conversation with them but not with that lore.
The funny part about Prometheus is that the entire movie was made to explain the engineers and the origin of the 'Xenomorph' species of the earlier films but their producer/investors changed their mind midway and made a nonsensical movie which cut out 75% of its actual content.
I find it ironic that much of Alien 1979’s success came from Ridley making the right decisions. Well other than cutting the egg morphing scene, which might have been the studio’s decision. Either way, Prometheus would have been much better if Ridley didn’t make all of the changes this go around. The story would have made a lot more sense and would have added more depth to the characters.
You know its possible its not just the director, I heard that after that western Heaven's Gate flopped the control of production was relegated to producers instead of the director... but...unless your name is James Cameron 😂
The first half of Prometheus is one of my favourite starts to a film ever.... I hated how much they left out! They traded great story and backstory for shock and awe scenes!
I visited Dettifoss, the waterfall from Prometheus a couple of weeks ago, and stood in the exact same spot as the engineer! I still love this film, despite all of its flaws
@@dawnatkinson7704 it is right at the north of the island, so it involved a big car journey from Reykjavik, but we did it over a weekend and got to see the entire ring road of Iceland. It is simple to get to in the summer but apparently all the roads close down in winter, making it pretty inaccessible.
@@dawnatkinson7704its touristy (there’s a car park, barriers and so on) but does require driving and walking to get to. it’s exactly like the film minus the aliens :) pick the time of year correctly though, Iceland gets very cold and dangerous
I was so pissed off that they didn't continue on the engineers theme. It's like the writers or whoever was in charge had no imagination to continue with the story. I remember the first time I watched Prometheus and I was in awe. My mind was like who created us, why did they leave us. What was wrong with us that you wanted to destroy or planet. Were you envy of us? Aggggghhhhhh,, fkn
Or, it could've been the PRODUCERS who junked this movie... Whoever that funded it ultimately has the final say on things. Nowadays, there are always alot of creative or political differences involved that just don't give the writers or directors complete free reign over HOW they want things to go. That is why movies from back then in the old days were BETTER.
THANK YOU Kroft, for all your hard work, I've been subbed for years, and you still are one of my favorite channels, my go-to for anything PEOMETHEUS! (my in depth anything Prometheus guide)
it added mystery and made watchers curious, it is better this way, it makes you want to look deeper. If they spoonfed us everything at the beginning, the curiosity wouldnt be as strrong. And they intend to release these delted scenes to us eventually anyway. All is well.
That's quite interesting - I knew that in the aftermath of watching the movie I heard the interpretation many times that the Engineers were set to destroy humanity because they had crucified Jesus, but judging from what the cut scenes suggest, the Deacon, i.e. that creature which suspiciously looks like a Xenomorph is their "Jesus" because that's what they worship. This would suggest that the Xenomorph was actually based on a creature that really truly existed, and that the Engineers' efforts were directed towards recreating that creature which they considered to be perfect. But this would mean that these Engineers are not really Gods or supernatural beings of any kind, that they have been created by someone or something else, i.e. they are "lesser Gods" at best and we humans, within the universe of what story, would be "children of a lesser god" (this is not intended to be a reference to the movie of the same title). They are not Gods in the sense of being perfect, but here they go about imitating their creators in becoming creators themselves, and being worshipped as Gods in their turn by them. And humans, represented by Peter Weyland, go about doing the same, with PW creating David, essentially repeating the hubris of their creators and creating beings that they hope will worship them as Gods. And in the sequel to this movie we have David essentially going mad because he cannot come to terms with being a perfect being created by a being that was essentially imperfect. 🥴
Scott has had this whole theory that really started with this film that the xenomorph was dead and no one wanted to see it anymore well several movies, a tv series, and several big hit games have proven him wrong.
I think one of the main reasons that the engineer's speech was deleted is they wanted to leave his behavior to be a mystery - to be explained in a later movie. So, you could say it was all about money and getting you to come and see the next movie.
I always got the idea the trilobite was attacking the engineer partially to protect its mother, Shaw. I have watched the scenes a number of times, still coming to that conclusion.
Pretty sure it just has a killer primal instinct. It seemed like it was going to kill Shaw in the med pod until she escaped. As well as when she runs into the Trilobite at the end and it's behind the door. It seemed if she had opened the door it would have killed her. Which gave her the idea to open the door when the Engineer came after her
read this.. i watched life of brian,monty python, ect.. before i knew, what they were based on.. same with this movie.. so,, this was taken from. viper tv sumerian tablets.. not just a movie,, but our tru beginnings.. search for real history,,not gaming, movie, tv media bs.. saw an interview, with r. scott.. he acually leaned, to this..
it's nuts there's still potential for new videos on this channel with this now familiar style of narration of yours and this background music. How many years have passed and still we're left with the mystery of engineers set up in the Prometheus movie, gosh
Ridley Scott wanted Alien to end with the Alien smashing through Ripley's mask and ripping her head off followed by the Alien sitting down and recording a distress message perfectly mimicking Captain Dallas's voice. After pitching the idea to Fox executives over the phone he was met with silence. 14 hours later a Fox executive arrived on set and threatened to fire Ridley Scott on the spot if the film ended in Ripley's death. Ridley was a brilliant director but when was went wrong.. he really went wrong in a big way.
I absolutely love that you're still making videos about this amazing movie. For me, there are a handful of scenes that I feel absolutely should have been in the film, but I don't feel that ALL of these should be reworked into the movie. I still hope for a true sequel every day.
Super appreciate all the editing you do with lots of details in your description it's obvious you love your craft and we all appreciate it. Keep up the great work you are in a class above the rest.
The axe that elizabeth shaw picks up towards the end of the movie was originally intended to be a Engineers weapon, there a bunch of them mounted on the walls in the alien ship navigation room.
Prometheus is a good movie. Ridley should have kept all the Engineers parts in the final draft. Would have made the movie alot better. Alien is Ridley Scott's masterpiece. Everything about Alien is perfect. Best science fiction movie ever made.
Great to hear from you Kroft. The poor effort in illuminating Engineer motivations and origins is very unfortunate. They really had something captivating to explore. The audience got great cinematography with some teasing visuals, then is left with the bad taste of ambiguousness. This film left an impression when I walked out of the theater in 2012 and it still does, beyond it's imperfections. In a somewhat similar light as the map/invitation found globally in disconnected ancient cultures we have remarkably mysterious structures globally right here on Earth that have a similar "DNA". So called Megalithic structures in Peru share an essence with structures across the world in Italy, Greece, Egypt and other locales. Assembled from large to enormous blocks of stone with very high precision that defy the official mumbo jumbo narrative. Their official history is not on actual record and is merely comprised of elaborate supposition and drawn conclusion, packaged and delivered as truth for the unknowing and unwitting masses. Some legends, of course, suggest giants constructed them. In the Alien Covenant novel, while referencing the Engineers, David makes a remark : "they did like to build things...". I wonder if beyond all of our speculations and fantasies that if a greater truth is right in front of us, yet unrecognized because we are not conditioned or possibly not even equipped to recognize it.
been following your content on Prometheus and aliens for years and absolutely love them as Prometheus is easily in my top 5 movies . You should write ideas for the next movie to Ridley Scott who knows it might even work out, we never know 🤷♂️🤷♂️
What I'm really wondering, is how many of these scenes were cut _after_ it's run in theatres? Because I swear, I remember seeing most of them and being confused when my memories didn't match up with the home video release
I agree with your assessment of this film. Ridley Scott should have included all the deleted footage. I like some of his movies a lot. But, he’s not a good judge of his own work. Like deleting the narrative in Blade Runner. I thought it was interesting and it added an old time movie vibe.
So, this is basically 33 instances of "The movie would've made a lot more sense if they had left this in". The original concept for this movie had an actual semblence of an understandable plot, but the film makers for some reason decided to change it and make it totally indecipherable from what's presented on screen.
Your videos are so great. You opened my eyes to so much and almost think the story has more reality than fiction and that Scott might know more than what we think. God bless
Makes sense why this movie was so rough they changed a large part of it last minute. Genuinely wonder why they did. It's unfortunate too because not only would the original version been better but that them making allcthe changed they did last minute screwed up the whole trilogy not just Prometheus and screw it up to a point to where we might not ever even see the final movie
I love when Kroft uploads. The Alien franchise is amazing and i've been a fan for a long time. I'm not just talking about the good movies. I'm talking about the whole franchise. It is good to see people who like Prometheus, Alien Covenant , and the original movies. EDIT: I also agree with you 100% about John Spaihts version of the script and i don't understand why Ridley Scott decided to bring in Damon when the script that was written by Spaihts was a very solid script and if Ridley would have went with Spaihts version, i feel that Prometheus wouldn't have gotten such a negative review. Additionally, It is extremely upsetting me that we won't get to have a sequel to Covenant. David, is one of the best characters in this franchise and i would have loved to see what happens down the line between him and the engineers. Now, all we can do is imagine what would happen. I wrote a script for the sequel of covenant called Alien: Royalty and I'm sure that there are many people out there like me who have written their own story of David's continuance and since we will never get a sequel to covenant, we will have to stick to the comics and fan made scripts and stories.
These deleted scenes would have made this film worth watching. I was extremely excited when this film came out but then disappointed after watching it. Nothing was explained and we were left trying to piece things together. So disappointing that these scenes were deleted.
Imagine if the Xenomorph reacted differently to someone who didn't have a human mindset, the fear, panic, selfishness, & violent tendencies we have. The things the Engineers decided make us unworthy. For example the way the Neomorph reacts to David in Alien: Covenant. I assumed it was because the aliens can sense the difference between a synthetic or organic being. But if the Engineers once worshipped a godlike creature that resembled a Xenomorph there's a chance it was just as dangerous and deadly as the creatures we're seeing in these movies, and just as if not more intelligent. It could've been intelligent enough to spare the Engineers if they showed it proper respect and worship. We've never seen someone just stand calmly, or try to kneel before a Xenomorph before in the movies, but what if that's the trick to survive an encounter with one? Don't behave like a frightened chimpanzee and it won't treat you like one, by killing you. What if the Xenomorph can instantly come to the same conclusion the Engineers did about humanity on sight? That we aren't worthy of the life we were given. What if the Xenomorph's brain and senses allow it to quickly determine an organism's capability for intelligence and violence. It didn't kill the cat in the first movie either. Only people (and Predators if you can't those movies as canon).
Beyond frustrating that after creating the start to such an amazing Alien backstory in Prometheus , that Scott sold out to create the horrible garbage that was Covenant, which is a repeated retelling of the story about the Alien wreaking havoc that has been outplayed to the point its in numerous video games and cartoons with even ridiculous weird spinoffs of Alien vs Predator.
After the realease of "Alien", Ridley Scott said that he deleted the scene in which we see Dallas and Brett cocooned in the Xenomorph nest, because it interrupted the arc of suspense. As he released the Cirector's Cut 25 years later, he said that this scene was worth to be seen by the audience too, so he inserted it into the movie again. I suppose, there will be a Director's Cut of "Prometheus" that will include some of these deleted scenes to open us a different view to this story. And it will possibly be better than the actual movie, maybe similar to "Blade Runner" and "Kingdom of Heaven" that are much better in the Director's Cuts than the Cinema Cuts. By the way, I think that Scott was right: that scene interrupts the arc of suspense. But he was also right as he said, that it is worth to be seen. If the scene would have been in the Cinema version too, James Cameron probably wouldn't have introduced his Alien Queen to the franchise, because it in fact makes no sense.
I guess because the studio told him to, presumably to speed up the "pacing" of the movie. 😡 Honestly, I do not know why directors ever put up with this and why there aren't more having their name in the credits replaced by "Judas Boothe" to protest these changes, because they are hardly ever for the better and generally only produce plot-holes. It's the director who knows their story best, the studios usually cannot get their dollar signs out of their eyes.
I've always loved Prometheus, despite its faults. It was clear to me that Ridley had a unique vision for an alien movie. Nevertheless, seeing all of these scenes, which would have made this movie so much better, is a bummer because there's a masterpiece hidden under this. Sad to see how the studios undermined themselves.
The opening scene with Engineers and cup of goo (where he dies). What does it depict: 1) successful seeding a life 2) attempt to create Xenomorph 3) attempt to create human? As per Bible (and Bible references are all over the movie) God created us it his own image and likeness. So does it mean that we are Engineers? Genetically modified but still very close to them Seeding a life? Nah. They are our creators. Meaning when they created humankind there were life on our planet. Complex life They tried to create Xenomorph. Ritual-like gathering tells us that this is no experiment or scientific test. I like this one
This is genuinely such interesting content. Thank you for stuff like this! And props to everybody who made the scenes in this movie possible at all, I'm sure it's a lot of work. Maybe there could be a book, movie, or something else made to explore Engineers in their entirety. I want to see more of their culture, history, and religion! There's so many possibilities still open for the taking with Prometheus. I just hope it continues with the "fuck you, figure it out on your own" thing.
Good lord, I bet this movie wouldn’t have tanked the way it did by leaving this stuff in. I can’t get enough Alien so I’ve watched it again and again, and all these little things that didn’t make sense throughout the movie, causing it to feel ridiculous (like the guy with the snake), are probably what kept it from feeling like a well thought out storyline. Instead it was barely comprehensible flashes of disjointed ideas. I don’t hate the movie, but I really wish they’d just do a directors cut.
The Engineers were a fascinating and mysterious civilizations in this Franchise, sad that they can't make a spin off or give more time to any Engineer story telling. It would be fun to see what the Writers can come up with for the Engineers.
If David was crying was removed, it's because they didn't want to show that David had this emotion, therefore he doesn't. We shouldn't take scenes that were deleted as canon.
Prom and Cov are impressive and far more interesting to me than most other movies from this genre. Big, big fan of the Alien 1,2 & 3. Prom and Cov are a great addition to this IP and I wish they hadn't cancelled Season 3 of Raised by Wolves, another amazing show!
Sad Ridley Scott is against releasing an extended or alternate version and we have to look at deleted scenes. The deleted scenes that would actually make the fucking movies make sense and people become drawn to them. Just a thought..
I don't care how long it would have been. They took out the best parts. The parts that make the movie make sense. I knew something was missing about that movie.
The green crystal/cup switch is utterly baffling. Thanks for reviewing the deleted scenes, still not sure if it could have redeemed Prometheus but I guess we will never know.
The movies were good, but it would've been so much better if they hadn't deleted these seens. I want to know more about the engineers and if they have contact with the Predator species. One of the predators' movies takes place in the Antarctic, and they seem to almost worship the aliens also.
Now that Alien Romulus is a success, i really hope that someday, Ridley Scott will edit and release a final/director's/extended cut of Prometheus. Maybe on it's 15th or 20th anniversary.
Sometimes the director's cut is the cut that was released. That's what he said about Alien, he said he cut some scenes because they slowed down the intensity and pacing of the final sequence with Ripley escaping the ship. But the studio released the extended version anyway.
The final movie cut was too cryptic. Even though i was not aware of all this removed material at the time i saw the film, i really felt that there was alot of missing material. We all know that extensive editing goes into a production and much film ends up on the cutting room floor (allusion to a bygone era when editing was a physical activity with real film), but nonetheless, i too agree that the movie would have been much more meaningful if more of these scenes were included. Thanks for this video.
I just wish it got retconned. The engineers removed all the mystery of the space jockey, especially by revealing that they’re actually just tall pale bald guys instead of weird elephant looking aliens like the first movie implied
I don't know why writers, directors, studios, etc. all like to hide or suppress information about their own universe to us audiences. We're interested in your universe, so tell it! But they think it reveals too much too soon. Then we get these cliffhangers that never get addressed even after 10+ years. It makes the story feel incomplete and subpar because most of the time it feels like they are too afraid to tell their own story. If you're going to release a more complete version later after everyone already seen the original, most people are not going to re-watch it or don't know a different version exists so you basically shot yourself in the foot by telling an incomplete story. Now that lesser version is burned into everyone's memory. Do it right the first time and you won't have to question yourself later.
What I loved about the original movie, was that you felt a deep univers, that you only saw a fragment of. As soon as you explain everything that depth is erased.
thx you. The maker of this video does not undersntad a thing about story telling. They want to explain and understand everything ... That why is a youtube maker and Ridley a director.
Agreed. One of the (many) things that made Alien (1986) so memorable was the _utter incomprehensibility_ of what the Nostromo crew encountered on LV-426. The vast derelict ship, the 'space jockey', the xenomorph itself ... were awe-inspiring because they were _beyond human understanding._ Any attempt at a story designed to 'explain' them and relate them to humanity would inevitably come across as an anticlimax. I enjoyed Prometheous as a 'stand-alone' movie but didn't find the idea that it had any relevance to the original movie that inspired it to be at all convincing.
Ridley made the first "Alien" movie. Then, Cameroon came with "Aliens" and took it to another level so all the other movies looks pale compare to it. Ridley, cannot handle it, and with all the actors and technology of today, he still cannot come with a story that would be both interesting and deep that will reach the same level as Cameron "Aliens".
I was really disappointed we didn't get a true exploration of the Engineer's planet and history.
we didnt get pretty much anything
@jyesucevitz Seconded. 👍👍
Yeah and wtf was with the engineer people in Covenant. Shaw was going to the engineer homeworld at the end of Prometheus. That's what we wanted to see. Sure, it would be predictable, but that's what everyone wanted. The series was meant to explore the engineers more than the aliens, but they just disappear and it goes back to aliens.
@@DolphLundgrensDolphinDungeon Yes, it felt like a new frontier getting explored to be honest, not some Xenomorph bull. Sadly we got Covenant crap -_- instead of Prometheus: Paradise Lost.
It was the people who was an alien horror film, they got upset and whined like babies about prometheus so they had to appease them in the second film
Prometheus could've been a masterpiece
It can be reassembled any rereleased !
Yea Zach Snyder cut made it possible .. that was a far better film for sure ❤
It wasn’t bad
Simply leaving in that one scene where David and Weyland have a full blown conversation with the engineer would have fixed so many of this movie's problems. :(
Still doesn’t explain why they picked too completely unsuitable crewmen in the Geographer (who got lost) and the Xenobiologist who got scared of 3,000 yr old dead Alien head, but not scared of an alien vagina faced snake in a full threat pose.
It doesn’t explain why they ignored any quarantine protocols that were such a bug part of Alien and immediately took their suit helmets off.
@@SvenTviking Yep. It's like they dragged them off the street for this expedition. Insanely stupid. And then there's David. Brrr... At least they gave us a new meme: the Prometheus School of Running Away.
I don't agree. Prometheus could have been good but 2 scenes just made it unforgivably bad. The pathetic frightened bearded jackass with attitude who threw a tantrum and then got himself killed with the other moron who poked a creature he knew nothing about after seeing a dead alien humanoid.... yeah, that was pretty dumb and those two characters were so awful and unlikeable....
Anyway, that and the black goo inconsistencies that was so poorly written that it's effect was whatever it needed to be to create the next eye candy....
Sorry, the movie was just utter garbage and an embarrassment.
Such a shitty movie and yet with this content at least it would have made some sense.
I'm not so sure. Yes the movie would have been MUCH better but I would not understand why we would need a sequel like the one we got with Alien Covenant - aka that fascination to visit the engineer's world.
I still cannot get over how they were so cavalier with the alien cobra thing. Even on Earth, you don't try play with a cobra.
🤣🤣🤣 This, 1000x this! There are SOOO many moments like that. All theyd have had to do is go in, explore, keep their helmets TF-on/not touch anything and be out free. But naturally being human and curious is what got them.
Such a long string of dim-wittedly bad decisions 😝
The lack of quarantine protocols ruined both movies multiple times. Granted it would have been boring to include them but in real situations there is zero chance of removing helmets, playing with aliens, ignoring safety and contamination issues, etc
@@AnArChRiStxseditioThey even showed these two being scared of aliens in the beginning and antagonistic towards each other. Then suddenly they started being best buddies and playing with an alien cobra like it's a little puppy.
You need at least an entire movie to show that kind of character arc. Scenes like this makes me question not just the movie, but also myself. And as you said, there could be contamination. There might not even be any huge xenomorphs, but microbes and spores would kill a human even here on earth.
Guess they wanted to save that for Covenant😂
@@Urza26 Why would you question yourself? You are right about contamination protocols and building up characters who act in character. Script and story writers are supposed to do research. Perhaps we are to think there was them running out of oxygen making them have to take off their helmets and risk the air and maybe spores breathed in altering their behavior and making them act drunk or lure them to aliens- like toxoplasma gondii in mice.
Absolutely baffling the editing choices that were made for the final cut. Practically every point you made about the deleted material and how they would have enhanced our understanding of various scenes is spot on!
studios always depriving us with their bureaucratic interference
Sometimes, not understanding is better.
They should released 2 version. One is director's cut and another is studios cut.
The storytelling is awful, too. There must've been a lot of interference. The characters are unlikeable, every single one of them makes terrible decisions. Rather than feeling like real people, they feel like pastiches or caricatures. The idiosyncratically grounded feeling of the Alien universe was somehow lost completely. It was annoying to say the least.
@@VVeremoose I don't mind movies that leave you surmising but promethius was just a dog's breakfast of BS. I hate directors who tried to be "creative" by leaving out key parts of the story line.
The best example is the ending for the Sopranos. David Chase explained that since the entire series was shot through tony's eyes, the black out ending fit. The problem? The series was NEVER shot first person through tony's eyes. In fact, much of the series was shot 3rd person showing all the other character's lives so how can that be "through tony's eyes" if he wasn't there?
Maybe if the producers included these deleted scenes the movie wouldn’t have ‘FLOPPED’ at the box office.
I worked for one of the VFX companies on Prometheus and remember the alternate Fifield mutations sequence well - it was actually referred to as "Fifield Lives" internally and along with the opening engineers sequence I view it as some of our best work on the show. Was disappointed to not see it included in the theatrical cut but am happy it at least got to see the light of day for others to enjoy!
Wow! Great work you did. So sorry they cut out your best stuff.
Got to say the VFX holds up all these years later as suburb work, nice job. There is allot of films today that don't look nearly as good.
So what was that mutation supposed to be? Why did he turn into a weird big forehead monster ?
@@ROVA00 you'll have to ask Ridley Scott
@@ROVA00 To be fair, guy did the VFX he didn't write it. That's more a question for the script writer.
I swear I remember I watched Shaw say "it's not a map, it's an invitation" in the theatre.
It's quantum physics: it happened differently to you because perspective.
She did say it . If you watch the movie again you’ll see it. She definitely said it .
theatre versions sometimes are different from TV, DVD? Bluray's etc... it's weird.
I saw this in theaters in 2012 and Shaw definitely says that line. Even in my copy of the movie, that scene is still there!
She did say it. It's on my copy.
Dude the Engineers are the most important thing the original space jockey has left me pondering for decades and the hope to finally understand them had me so excited and turned into a even bigger tease...this movie and it's sequel were capable of such great things. They had actors, the director, the budget, man it could of been great, all the fans wanted was origin story, every one has seen every type of xenomorph again and again, it's played out bring us to something more substantial
I also find the whole idea that the engineers went extinct to be stupid and I don’t understand why anyone even believes that theory.
Why would a 100 million plus year old race of biological technology just go away just like that?
Well the answer is simple: they didn’t go extinct and are still thriving out in the universe.
@@zen4ever3Yeah, I read somewhere that the Colony David annihilated in Covenant was another creation of the engineers not the engineers themselves. They didn’t even look alike
@@zen4ever3Actually apparently their civilization is at least 3 billion years old cause that’s when the sacrifice scene takes place
Scott should have produced an Directors Cut. The movies got many, many fans. It's cold and detailed atmosphere is insanely awesome and the fact they built so many scenes by hand and didn't use a lot of greenscreens is so much better. A DC with many deleted scenes would have been awesome.
Unfortunately, they deleted the most important scenes. I have no idea what they were thinking. A movie about the engineers and their god and planet would be awesome!
They don't delete the most stupid way to die perhaps even in cinema, lol...
@realperx1102 nuh uh
They said it was because they were worried about outrage about religious themes.. so they were catering to the woke mob
That would be awesome, we need a back story.
because first it was going to reveal too much, making the urge for answers quite resolved, and second because these answers were too shallow, simplistic, incoherent and religion centered, specially on christianity, which would have been a downpoint to many non-christians. It would have been cool to have this conversation with them but not with that lore.
It's weird that they deleted so many scenes that could made the movie make more sense.
There use to be a fan made edit of Prometheus on Pirate Bay were someone inserted all the deleted scenes like its a directors cut. It was really good.
I downloaded a copy of that, but sadly lost it.
Its not there anymore?
I still have it. I'll never delete it.
@@brendonmcgirr5448I've got it too. Great film
@@brendonmcgirr5448i need that from you, how can i get it, hit me up i pay for it direct download
The funny part about Prometheus is that the entire movie was made to explain the engineers and the origin of the 'Xenomorph' species of the earlier films but their producer/investors changed their mind midway and made a nonsensical movie which cut out 75% of its actual content.
I find it ironic that much of Alien 1979’s success came from Ridley making the right decisions. Well other than cutting the egg morphing scene, which might have been the studio’s decision. Either way, Prometheus would have been much better if Ridley didn’t make all of the changes this go around. The story would have made a lot more sense and would have added more depth to the characters.
You know its possible its not just the director, I heard that after that western Heaven's Gate flopped the control of production was relegated to producers instead of the director... but...unless your name is James Cameron 😂
@@arvinjay336 Definitely! Heaven's Gate is a crazy story...
or maybe they should have just release a cinema cut and a director's cut for the true fans of the alien lore
Crazy because stuff like this probably happened, only on a smaller scale - or was entirely covered up along with many atrocities of that time.
Indeed .however we will never know why they cut the movie down (usually for times sake) and could be simply budget related or time constraint related
The first half of Prometheus is one of my favourite starts to a film ever.... I hated how much they left out! They traded great story and backstory for shock and awe scenes!
A movie dedicated to exploring the Engineers would be EPIC. ❤👽🙏
they only make the exact opposite though. I guess slaves that settle for slavery only get crap slave entertainment.
Engineer trilogy!
I wish that they will have the Engineers in a future alien-movie. The Engineers have potential.
@@earthcitizen3939 would only betray it like all of the potential since alien 3. gutted by the military.
@@erikred8217 What do you mean by gutted by the military?
Leaving all this in would have made this movie one of my favorites. So much more depth to the characters and most importantly to the Engineers.
I visited Dettifoss, the waterfall from Prometheus a couple of weeks ago, and stood in the exact same spot as the engineer! I still love this film, despite all of its flaws
Wow! Is the location very remote?
@@dawnatkinson7704 it is right at the north of the island, so it involved a big car journey from Reykjavik, but we did it over a weekend and got to see the entire ring road of Iceland. It is simple to get to in the summer but apparently all the roads close down in winter, making it pretty inaccessible.
same! back in 2021. very cool
@@dawnatkinson7704its touristy (there’s a car park, barriers and so on) but does require driving and walking to get to. it’s exactly like the film minus the aliens :) pick the time of year correctly though, Iceland gets very cold and dangerous
You should have drunk a bowl of soup or a cup of coffee to make it more memorable.
The fact this has been viewed 1.4m times tells me there could be a successful adaptation as a high budget series.. hopefully disney do this.
I was so pissed off that they didn't continue on the engineers theme. It's like the writers or whoever was in charge had no imagination to continue with the story. I remember the first time I watched Prometheus and I was in awe. My mind was like who created us, why did they leave us. What was wrong with us that you wanted to destroy or planet. Were you envy of us? Aggggghhhhhh,, fkn
Or, it could've been the PRODUCERS who junked this movie... Whoever that funded it ultimately has the final say on things. Nowadays, there are always alot of creative or political differences involved that just don't give the writers or directors complete free reign over HOW they want things to go. That is why movies from back then in the old days were BETTER.
I might be crazy but I really liked the Prometheus movie.
Yeah the negativity around it was way over blown.
I like it as it’s own stand alone movie. I hated it at first but I can watch it and rewatch it and it’s still fun. Covenant I never watched again!
Me too. I was very upset as I've learned that they won't continue it.
I liked it too. I think it could have been even better if more time was spent on character development like in Alien.
Question : do you like the movie for what it is or what it could be. For me it is the former and it is a mess
This explains why the movie is choppy with holes in the storyline. It could have been a great movie.
THANK YOU Kroft, for all your hard work, I've been subbed for years, and you still are one of my favorite channels, my go-to for anything PEOMETHEUS! (my in depth anything Prometheus guide)
Removing all those deleted scenes from the movie did the movie a huge disservice. Production teams always make bad decisions.
They could have taken 15 minutes out of the first 3 scenes of the movie and kept all that in
The editing killed this movie ... it killed it so deeply
Production companies cut movies down, not the directors.
Sometimes less is more. Consider the hard edits in Alien.
it added mystery and made watchers curious, it is better this way, it makes you want to look deeper. If they spoonfed us everything at the beginning, the curiosity wouldnt be as strrong. And they intend to release these delted scenes to us eventually anyway. All is well.
That's quite interesting - I knew that in the aftermath of watching the movie I heard the interpretation many times that the Engineers were set to destroy humanity because they had crucified Jesus, but judging from what the cut scenes suggest, the Deacon, i.e. that creature which suspiciously looks like a Xenomorph is their "Jesus" because that's what they worship. This would suggest that the Xenomorph was actually based on a creature that really truly existed, and that the Engineers' efforts were directed towards recreating that creature which they considered to be perfect. But this would mean that these Engineers are not really Gods or supernatural beings of any kind, that they have been created by someone or something else, i.e. they are "lesser Gods" at best and we humans, within the universe of what story, would be "children of a lesser god" (this is not intended to be a reference to the movie of the same title). They are not Gods in the sense of being perfect, but here they go about imitating their creators in becoming creators themselves, and being worshipped as Gods in their turn by them. And humans, represented by Peter Weyland, go about doing the same, with PW creating David, essentially repeating the hubris of their creators and creating beings that they hope will worship them as Gods. And in the sequel to this movie we have David essentially going mad because he cannot come to terms with being a perfect being created by a being that was essentially imperfect. 🥴
33 deleted scenes. Christ was said to be 33 at his time of crucifixion.
Yep, Illuminati confirmed.
i will never understand what Riddley Scott was thinking with the change on the script and the deleted scenes
I think one of the reason is the political corectness. He cut many religion references to not have trouble
@@GK-jg6puInteresting theory
Scott has had this whole theory that really started with this film that the xenomorph was dead and no one wanted to see it anymore well several movies, a tv series, and several big hit games have proven him wrong.
@@donovanbradford8231He was right for the movies.
@@donovanbradford8231 i think aliens tv series would be a bomb
So…it was a better movie.
Yep. It would have made the movie better
I think one of the main reasons that the engineer's speech was deleted is they wanted to leave his behavior to be a mystery - to be explained in a later movie. So, you could say it was all about money and getting you to come and see the next movie.
I always got the idea the trilobite was attacking the engineer partially to protect its mother, Shaw. I have watched the scenes a number of times, still coming to that conclusion.
Pretty sure it just has a killer primal instinct. It seemed like it was going to kill Shaw in the med pod until she escaped. As well as when she runs into the Trilobite at the end and it's behind the door. It seemed if she had opened the door it would have killed her. Which gave her the idea to open the door when the Engineer came after her
Hopefully some day we can get a proper extended edition of Prometheus with the extra scenes.
Perhaps we can get a completely new film that doesn’t kill off what should have been a fantastic new storyline.
read this.. i watched life of brian,monty python, ect.. before i knew, what they were based on.. same with this movie.. so,, this was taken from. viper tv sumerian tablets.. not just a movie,, but our tru beginnings.. search for real history,,not gaming, movie, tv media bs.. saw an interview, with r. scott.. he acually leaned, to this..
Took 20 years for Alien
Not exploring the engineer's storyline is where this franchise died.
it's nuts there's still potential for new videos on this channel with this now familiar style of narration of yours and this background music. How many years have passed and still we're left with the mystery of engineers set up in the Prometheus movie, gosh
Hope Ridley & Co are reading these comments 😩 some of those deleted scenes shouldn't have been deleted!
I'm just going to put out what everybody's always thought:
We need an Engineers movie.
Im big on tranquil ponds n deep thots maybe a few pretty birds for a splash of co lour
Ridley Scott wanted Alien to end with the Alien smashing through Ripley's mask and ripping her head off followed by the Alien sitting down and recording a distress message perfectly mimicking Captain Dallas's voice. After pitching the idea to Fox executives over the phone he was met with silence. 14 hours later a Fox executive arrived on set and threatened to fire Ridley Scott on the spot if the film ended in Ripley's death.
Ridley was a brilliant director but when was went wrong.. he really went wrong in a big way.
I absolutely love that you're still making videos about this amazing movie. For me, there are a handful of scenes that I feel absolutely should have been in the film, but I don't feel that ALL of these should be reworked into the movie. I still hope for a true sequel every day.
Amazing movie?.... Lol
The sequel was Alien Covenant, also a very very bad movie.
Ditto times a million! I really feel... attached to this, because the story itself was growing and mutating. Thanks heaps!
@@garciansmith1460 Prometheus was a very good movie thzt could have been great. Covenant was crap start to finish
Super appreciate all the editing you do with lots of details in your description it's obvious you love your craft and we all appreciate it. Keep up the great work you are in a class above the rest.
The axe that elizabeth shaw picks up towards the end of the movie was originally intended to be a Engineers weapon, there a bunch of them mounted on the walls in the alien ship navigation room.
Prometheus is a good movie. Ridley should have kept all the Engineers parts in the final draft. Would have made the movie alot better. Alien is Ridley Scott's masterpiece. Everything about Alien is perfect. Best science fiction movie ever made.
Yeah dude you made this movie 10 times better than it actually was lol
The most complete variant of Prometheus movie IMO is: Prometheus Workprint Edition Ver 2017.
@@StefanBlagojevic I gotta see it!
Yes your comment is so correct
any links?
@@StefanBlagojevic
@@milosjovic4402 Имаш на РЕДИТ-у, форум са линковима. Већ сам ти писао једном, али алгоритам ми је обрисао коментар. Поздрав.
Dude - There are enough deleted scenes to make an entire movie, no wonder writers go on strike 😂
Great to hear from you Kroft. The poor effort in illuminating Engineer motivations and origins is very unfortunate. They really had something captivating to explore. The audience got great cinematography with some teasing visuals, then is left with the bad taste of ambiguousness.
This film left an impression when I walked out of the theater in 2012 and it still does, beyond it's imperfections. In a somewhat similar light as the map/invitation found globally in disconnected ancient cultures we have remarkably mysterious structures globally right here on Earth that have a similar "DNA". So called Megalithic structures in Peru share an essence with structures across the world in Italy, Greece, Egypt and other locales. Assembled from large to enormous blocks of stone with very high precision that defy the official mumbo jumbo narrative. Their official history is not on actual record and is merely comprised of elaborate supposition and drawn conclusion, packaged and delivered as truth for the unknowing and unwitting masses. Some legends, of course, suggest giants constructed them.
In the Alien Covenant novel, while referencing the Engineers, David makes a remark : "they did like to build things...".
I wonder if beyond all of our speculations and fantasies that if a greater truth is right in front of us, yet unrecognized because we are not conditioned or possibly not even equipped to recognize it.
Dude your voice is calming it puts me to sleep every single time. It’s a compliment by the way
I just want more Shaw.
Such an amazing performance, i loved every second of her
Ridley Scott hates his female characters… which is why he destroys them.
He totally mutilated Shaw in the sequel
@@carlrutherford1618she never deserved that 😢
been following your content on Prometheus and aliens for years and absolutely love them as Prometheus is easily in my top 5 movies . You should write ideas for the next movie to Ridley Scott who knows it might even work out, we never know 🤷♂️🤷♂️
What are them? Top 5
Have you only seen 7 movies?
@@jebpleb1803 I was thinking that it must suck that this guy/gal/ non-binary wasted time watching Batman Forever.
Top 5 movies, are you even 21?
Glad you did this video, at least now we know what it should have been, for that I am grateful, excellent content as always
I just want a sequel for closure
alien covenant
Aint it Alien Covenant 😂 ^
I just want Ridley Scott to make a movie like two or three hours about the engineers, I’d be so freaking happy
What I'm really wondering, is how many of these scenes were cut _after_ it's run in theatres? Because I swear, I remember seeing most of them and being confused when my memories didn't match up with the home video release
I agree with your assessment of this film. Ridley Scott should have included all the deleted footage. I like some of his movies a lot. But, he’s not a good judge of his own work.
Like deleting the narrative in Blade Runner. I thought it was interesting and it added an old time movie vibe.
I really wish we got more on the Engineers, my fave parts of the films
You should try to read the Fire and Stone Aliens / Prometheus/ AVP its pretty cool!
Yeah, he should have expanded on the Übermensch lore. Instead we got fluting robots.
Yeah, at least that was something new and interesting. Covenant became about an angry android, no thanks to that.
Well, this adds more confusion to an already old 7 years old movie that will never have a part 2
So, this is basically 33 instances of "The movie would've made a lot more sense if they had left this in".
The original concept for this movie had an actual semblence of an understandable plot, but the film makers for some reason decided to change it and make it totally indecipherable from what's presented on screen.
Agreed 💯
And entertaining 😅
This is great! Thanks for sharing.
Your videos are so great. You opened my eyes to so much and almost think the story has more reality than fiction and that Scott might know more than what we think. God bless
You're definitely onto something
... riiiiight.
That's stupid as shit.
Makes sense why this movie was so rough they changed a large part of it last minute. Genuinely wonder why they did. It's unfortunate too because not only would the original version been better but that them making allcthe changed they did last minute screwed up the whole trilogy not just Prometheus and screw it up to a point to where we might not ever even see the final movie
I love when Kroft uploads. The Alien franchise is amazing and i've been a fan for a long time. I'm not just talking about the good movies. I'm talking about the whole franchise. It is good to see people who like Prometheus, Alien Covenant , and the original movies.
EDIT: I also agree with you 100% about John Spaihts version of the script and i don't understand why Ridley Scott decided to bring in Damon when the script that was written by Spaihts was a very solid script and if Ridley would have went with Spaihts version, i feel that Prometheus wouldn't have gotten such a negative review. Additionally, It is extremely upsetting me that we won't get to have a sequel to Covenant. David, is one of the best characters in this franchise and i would have loved to see what happens down the line between him and the engineers. Now, all we can do is imagine what would happen. I wrote a script for the sequel of covenant called Alien: Royalty and I'm sure that there are many people out there like me who have written their own story of David's continuance and since we will never get a sequel to covenant, we will have to stick to the comics and fan made scripts and stories.
It should be turned into movie. But how do you pitch your treatment and screenplay to large studios?
12:16 - A throwback to the Blade Runner movie. (Where a replicant crushes the head of his creator.)
These deleted scenes would have made this film worth watching. I was extremely excited when this film came out but then disappointed after watching it. Nothing was explained and we were left trying to piece things together. So disappointing that these scenes were deleted.
Exactly... They just want ya to PAY money to see it, but they DON'T wanna let you enjoy it! 🤑
Imagine if the Xenomorph reacted differently to someone who didn't have a human mindset, the fear, panic, selfishness, & violent tendencies we have. The things the Engineers decided make us unworthy. For example the way the Neomorph reacts to David in Alien: Covenant. I assumed it was because the aliens can sense the difference between a synthetic or organic being. But if the Engineers once worshipped a godlike creature that resembled a Xenomorph there's a chance it was just as dangerous and deadly as the creatures we're seeing in these movies, and just as if not more intelligent. It could've been intelligent enough to spare the Engineers if they showed it proper respect and worship. We've never seen someone just stand calmly, or try to kneel before a Xenomorph before in the movies, but what if that's the trick to survive an encounter with one? Don't behave like a frightened chimpanzee and it won't treat you like one, by killing you. What if the Xenomorph can instantly come to the same conclusion the Engineers did about humanity on sight? That we aren't worthy of the life we were given. What if the Xenomorph's brain and senses allow it to quickly determine an organism's capability for intelligence and violence. It didn't kill the cat in the first movie either. Only people (and Predators if you can't those movies as canon).
This movie is entertaining, but has zero to do with Aliens. There are only 2 alien movies; Alien and Aliens.
this takes place before
Beyond frustrating that after creating the start to such an amazing Alien backstory in Prometheus , that Scott sold out to create the horrible garbage that was Covenant, which is a repeated retelling of the story about the Alien wreaking havoc that has been outplayed to the point its in numerous video games and cartoons with even ridiculous weird spinoffs of Alien vs Predator.
GREED: He prolly knew his time was comin' and just wanted to pocket some money before he left... 💰💰🤑💰💰
this is why I had hard time trying to understand the movie cuz there were a lot of deleted scenes from the movie especially the engineers origin😢
After the realease of "Alien", Ridley Scott said that he deleted the scene in which we see Dallas and Brett cocooned in the Xenomorph nest, because it interrupted the arc of suspense. As he released the Cirector's Cut 25 years later, he said that this scene was worth to be seen by the audience too, so he inserted it into the movie again. I suppose, there will be a Director's Cut of "Prometheus" that will include some of these deleted scenes to open us a different view to this story. And it will possibly be better than the actual movie, maybe similar to "Blade Runner" and "Kingdom of Heaven" that are much better in the Director's Cuts than the Cinema Cuts.
By the way, I think that Scott was right: that scene interrupts the arc of suspense. But he was also right as he said, that it is worth to be seen. If the scene would have been in the Cinema version too, James Cameron probably wouldn't have introduced his Alien Queen to the franchise, because it in fact makes no sense.
Ridley Scott should never deleted these interesting scenes! Don't understand why he did it.
I guess because the studio told him to, presumably to speed up the "pacing" of the movie. 😡 Honestly, I do not know why directors ever put up with this and why there aren't more having their name in the credits replaced by "Judas Boothe" to protest these changes, because they are hardly ever for the better and generally only produce plot-holes. It's the director who knows their story best, the studios usually cannot get their dollar signs out of their eyes.
he should just never have made these uninteresting, uninspired, insipid movies...I'd rather watch paint dry
“Alan Smithee” exists exactly for this
@@geoffhoutman1557 yes, you're right, I've mixed that up, Judas Boothe is for Script writers...
seriously - now we are getting 3 hour movies without half the substance
I've always loved Prometheus, despite its faults. It was clear to me that Ridley had a unique vision for an alien movie. Nevertheless, seeing all of these scenes, which would have made this movie so much better, is a bummer because there's a masterpiece hidden under this. Sad to see how the studios undermined themselves.
Prometheus could've been so much better with the Engineer's planet exploration
The opening scene with Engineers and cup of goo (where he dies). What does it depict: 1) successful seeding a life 2) attempt to create Xenomorph 3) attempt to create human?
As per Bible (and Bible references are all over the movie) God created us it his own image and likeness. So does it mean that we are Engineers? Genetically modified but still very close to them
Seeding a life? Nah. They are our creators. Meaning when they created humankind there were life on our planet. Complex life
They tried to create Xenomorph. Ritual-like gathering tells us that this is no experiment or scientific test. I like this one
This is genuinely such interesting content. Thank you for stuff like this! And props to everybody who made the scenes in this movie possible at all, I'm sure it's a lot of work.
Maybe there could be a book, movie, or something else made to explore Engineers in their entirety.
I want to see more of their culture, history, and religion!
There's so many possibilities still open for the taking with Prometheus.
I just hope it continues with the "fuck you, figure it out on your own" thing.
Good lord, I bet this movie wouldn’t have tanked the way it did by leaving this stuff in. I can’t get enough Alien so I’ve watched it again and again, and all these little things that didn’t make sense throughout the movie, causing it to feel ridiculous (like the guy with the snake), are probably what kept it from feeling like a well thought out storyline. Instead it was barely comprehensible flashes of disjointed ideas. I don’t hate the movie, but I really wish they’d just do a directors cut.
The Engineers were a fascinating and mysterious civilizations in this Franchise, sad that they can't make a spin off or give more time to any Engineer story telling. It would be fun to see what the Writers can come up with for the Engineers.
If David was crying was removed, it's because they didn't want to show that David had this emotion, therefore he doesn't. We shouldn't take scenes that were deleted as canon.
Prom and Cov are impressive and far more interesting to me than most other movies from this genre. Big, big fan of the Alien 1,2 & 3. Prom and Cov are a great addition to this IP and I wish they hadn't cancelled Season 3 of Raised by Wolves, another amazing show!
Sad Ridley Scott is against releasing an extended or alternate version and we have to look at deleted scenes. The deleted scenes that would actually make the fucking movies make sense and people become drawn to them. Just a thought..
I suppose the most painful thing about this whole series is that I so wanted the engineers to be friends.
I don't care how long it would have been. They took out the best parts. The parts that make the movie make sense. I knew something was missing about that movie.
I love this movie. Sadly, after watching this and your other videos, I think it could have been much better. Thanks!
The green crystal/cup switch is utterly baffling. Thanks for reviewing the deleted scenes, still not sure if it could have redeemed Prometheus but I guess we will never know.
The movies were good, but it would've been so much better if they hadn't deleted these seens. I want to know more about the engineers and if they have contact with the Predator species. One of the predators' movies takes place in the Antarctic, and they seem to almost worship the aliens also.
At this point I feel we will never get a proper prometheus 2, it would of been epic
That's the stupidest idea I've heard all year.
"Would have" or its contraction, "would've", not "would of".
"Would of" is basically homonym gibberish.
@@babayaga-j3fthe fact we don’t have promseus 2 is a disgrace to amerika
@@Texas240 Thank you from an elderly, former English teacher!
If I could watch 4 hours of the Synders cut of the justice league I would absolutely watch 5 hours of the uncut Prometheus. 😂
Anytime you explain videos . I know its going to be great 👍🏼. I think shaw and weylands daughter should have survived for the next movie .
Now that Alien Romulus is a success, i really hope that someday, Ridley Scott will edit and release a final/director's/extended cut of Prometheus.
Maybe on it's 15th or 20th anniversary.
Sometimes the director's cut is the cut that was released. That's what he said about Alien, he said he cut some scenes because they slowed down the intensity and pacing of the final sequence with Ripley escaping the ship. But the studio released the extended version anyway.
Again, a Scott movie destroyed by bad editing. Could have been great.
Arrival of the engineers: not on Earth.
Makes no sense if it is on Earth because the Earth would be invaded
It's sad that Prometheus and Covenant suffer from terrible editing. For me they are (or could've been) the best example of scifi horror films.
The final movie cut was too cryptic. Even though i was not aware of all this removed material at the time i saw the film, i really felt that there was alot of missing material. We all know that extensive editing goes into a production and much film ends up on the cutting room floor (allusion to a bygone era when editing was a physical activity with real film), but nonetheless, i too agree that the movie would have been much more meaningful if more of these scenes were included. Thanks for this video.
So sad we’re never finishing this story
ur finishing the story In Real Life u ignorant human
I just wish it got retconned. The engineers removed all the mystery of the space jockey, especially by revealing that they’re actually just tall pale bald guys instead of weird elephant looking aliens like the first movie implied
It was finished after Aliens.
@@YodaOnABender not at all cause a reason was never given as to why they want to kill humanity. whether with space jockey or bald pale engineers.
@@diegoaespitia The space jockey and the engineers are the same thing, that’s why it sucks
Appreciate the breakdown. This movie could have been so much more, they decided to play it safe and not offend anyone.
I liked the fact he kept using that Atlantis audio in each video to make the video more interesting.
I don't know why writers, directors, studios, etc. all like to hide or suppress information about their own universe to us audiences. We're interested in your universe, so tell it! But they think it reveals too much too soon. Then we get these cliffhangers that never get addressed even after 10+ years. It makes the story feel incomplete and subpar because most of the time it feels like they are too afraid to tell their own story. If you're going to release a more complete version later after everyone already seen the original, most people are not going to re-watch it or don't know a different version exists so you basically shot yourself in the foot by telling an incomplete story. Now that lesser version is burned into everyone's memory. Do it right the first time and you won't have to question yourself later.
What I loved about the original movie, was that you felt a deep univers, that you only saw a fragment of. As soon as you explain everything that depth is erased.
thx you. The maker of this video does not undersntad a thing about story telling. They want to explain and understand everything ... That why is a youtube maker and Ridley a director.
@@bobtornton1436 Quite right, like a David Lynch film people shouldn't need to be spoon fed everything.
Agreed. One of the (many) things that made Alien (1986) so memorable was the _utter incomprehensibility_ of what the Nostromo crew encountered on LV-426. The vast derelict ship, the 'space jockey', the xenomorph itself ... were awe-inspiring because they were _beyond human understanding._ Any attempt at a story designed to 'explain' them and relate them to humanity would inevitably come across as an anticlimax. I enjoyed Prometheous as a 'stand-alone' movie but didn't find the idea that it had any relevance to the original movie that inspired it to be at all convincing.
Ridley made the first "Alien" movie.
Then, Cameroon came with "Aliens" and took it to another level so all the other movies looks pale compare to it.
Ridley, cannot handle it, and with all the actors and technology of today, he still cannot come with a story that would be both interesting and deep that will reach the same level as Cameron "Aliens".
0:15 where did you find this scene?
Yeah thats interesting
So, according to Alien Covenant, Vin Diesel created humanity. That's reasonable because the most important thing will always be the family
Fascinating stuff. I love Prometheus, I have no idea why Scott refuses to release an extended cut.
Because he believes the correct version is what he delivered. Like a writter is not publishing all the chapter he wrote for a book ...
'Cos it's a misconceived and disappointing load of crap?? (In my view!)