I bought the J7+ after watching lots of videos including yours. My earlier 960 Roomba cleans well, but I never use the schedule function because I always have to make sure the floor is picked up due to cat toys and cords, etc. The J7 on the other hand rarely gets into trouble and does a respectable job vacuuming. A pleasant surprise with the J7 was how quiet it is compared to my 960. Being retired and home a lot of the time I enjoy not having my Roomba screaming as it goes by while I'm on the phone or listening to music. I found that I use the schedule function all the time ensuring a constantly cleaned home. So all in all, I'm very happy with the J7 and have relegated the older 960 to the second floor.
Apples and oranges. The J7 is really nothing more than an i7 or i3 with a front mounted camera and increased AI. The drivetrain, suction motor and other internals are identical to the i7 and i3. A more equivalent comparison would be between the i7 and j7. I imagine that a J9+ is in the works that will utilize the S9 architecture with the J series sensor suite and AI. Then a fair comparison can be made. However, as it stands, the S9 will always pick up better, but will be worse at object recognition and avoidance. Stress tests are helpful, but if you own a robot vacuum and run it regularly, there is no reason for your home to get anywhere near that messy. So I would say, in the real world, the artificial AI and object avoidance are much more desirable than raw power. I have two i3+, and no pets, so I'm more than satisfied with my cleaning setup, but in the future, for me, at least, object avoidance and auto emptying bins are the true pathway to autonomous cleaning. And if my vacuum has to take more than one pass, once in awhile for a "deep clean" then so be it.
The big difference I like about the J7 is cord avoidance, various other robovacs have gotten stuck on or sucked up cords. Also since the J7 is a forward camera based robovac it can be updated on what to avoid in the future which means it will get stuck less than previous robovacs.
Thanks to this video. I have decided to get the room a J7+ because it could really help with avoiding objects. Even though I don’t have pets. I sometimes might have stuff around on the floor. Plus the vacuum is more affordable 💀 💸 It’s also arriving today for me! I have had a old roomba for a very long time. I yet it is still working reallly well. But, does has some bon issue sometimes. But, I always stick with iRobot, because it’s insane how long a robot vacuum can last over the years?!1!1😳
The S9’s vacuuming looks so nice. Carpet looks like it was done with a good upright. Can’t afford it so I just ordered the J7+ through their subscription offer of 29 a month. Hope delivery isn’t slow.
Reason why I got the j7+ because of the value. It’s about $400 cheaper than the s9+…plus I have a dog with double coat and it does a really good job of picking up her fur.
I have to object to this test. While I personally enjoy Fruity Pebbles, it's hard to say what a robot's individual preferences might be. In all seriousness, from what I understand the J7 has a learning phase. I'll find out soon enough. Got one on order. Still, I've loved these little vacuums since the beginning. My wife hates them and asserts that they "Suck at vacuuming." After the obligatory, "Yes, that's what they do," I explain that the difference between the floor being vacuumed at all or not at all is that robot. Great video, thanks for making it!
We have the 980 currently and it’s about done battery wise. We’ve had it over 3 years and the battery just doesn’t hold a charge anymore. The wheels need replacing as well so I figured with those expenses maybe we look at a new one with the self emptying bin. Which one would you recommend as a new version of our 980??
After watching hours and hours of your and other's robo-vacuum reviews. I am convinced (for countries where it is available) the Viomi S9 (500$) is the king right now. Suction power, mopping, 90min battery life at max power, AI for avoiding all kinds of obstacles, great mapping app and self empty bin.
I don't see anything, in the company's own literature, about obstacle avoidance with the S9. Viomis have been getting some pretty poor vacuuming reviews too, likely due to their fixed brush rolls, but that S9 looks like it might actually be flexibly suspended. I guess if you really want self-empy it's a good budget choice, but most vacuums, in that price range, have all those other boxed ticked with a better cleaning record to boot.
Hey Adam, Another great video, I was surprised at how bad the J7+ did, actually. It did pass the poop test so that’s a big plus for pet owners. I noticed in the iRobot guarantee they will replace the robot if it does a poop strike but not clean the mess it makes if it does. I guess that’s something. On another note, I’m excited, yesterday I was able to get a Shark AI XL for review. My first self-empty. While not my first choice it’s looking like it might be a decent choice. It will be my 5th robot ever and my fourth review situation. My first was a very early Roomba I bought from Costco and returned because it sucked in a bad way. Keep up the good work and maybe you can stress the AI XL? Oh a note I’ll be adding to my review that I already know. WTF is Shark thinking by NOT including spare little brushes and a filter like most big kits, including them, include? I agree $650 is high. I am curious how noisy or quiet it is versus the JetBot. Have a great Sunday! Joe
I have the j 7 and I use it every other day and I change the settings to extra clean so it does a double take and I noticed it does take a little longer but if I start it in the morning by the time I get home at 5 PM the house is perfectly clean so keep that in mind it’ll only do one quick pass and Collett good so I suggest doing the extra clean setting so with that you got it appreciate that he didn’t run over the poop because yes the other one did a really good job with one quick pass keep in mind it ran over the poop and theoretically with a smeared all over the house
Are you going to do a 2021 top 3 picks like vacuum wars does every year? It would be great to hear your opinion on that! Thanks for all the reviews. I have the J7+ but have been having problems with side brushes breaking off and it’s now making weird sounds. So…sending it back for the Roborock S7+ (I’m originally a Roborock type of guy but ventured out for the first time to iRobot).
Did you have "Careful Drive" mode activated on the S9+? It's not activated by default, but lets the front-mounted structured light sensor work the way it was designed to since its inception, though it didn't ever work that way until now. I haven't tried it, personally. Unfortunately, now that we have 3.18.11, my S9+ is smashing into objects that it used to respect before. I would turn on "Careful Drive" mode, but it supposedly misses areas more, so I haven't tried that. Are you noticing your S9 being aggressive with your walls, especially where there are wooden moldings near the baseboards?
Thanks for the comparison. The S9+ was hands down the better vacuum, as long as you don't have a big pile of dog poop on the floor, which most people do not.
Do you think the J7+ does better with rugs than the S9+? My S9 really struggles with rugs. They aren’t thick rugs either. I can’t run my S9 unless I’m home to babysit it, and that’s getting extremely frustrating.
At first I was kind of bummed as the J7 came out just a month after I bought the S9+...but after seeing this (and I have a cat not a dog =) I feel much better - plus I have zero complaints about the s9 - it almost never gets stuck on anything, if anything it drags everything home to the base.
I almost returned my s9+ because I have dogs, but it only goes at night when they’re sleeping. Plus, areas with wires like behind tvs, can be excluded in the app. s9+ all the way. Gets pet hair out of fancy area rugs.
They need to make upgrades for bots... that way we could upgrade to LIDAR Nav and a front camera on the front of the S9+ Its clearly the best on the market still! If they sold upgrades that would be amazing!
I agree with the s9 over the j7, I don’t have a dog problem, my comment is on the design of the dust bin. I like the lower profile s9 dust bin. Great videos
I just bought the J7+ to replace my old Shark. It cleans better than the Shark, but it’s very loud and seems to take an entire day to clean my small living area. Perhaps it will speed up after a few runs???
Just got my j7. Other than how long it takes to map vs LiDAR robots it’s great. It overall seems like a true robot warrior. After 4 days looks 6moths old
@@AdamsReviews true. It’s like you have to set up 2 different stress tests. One for iRobot and one for the rest. iRobot is in another league on that regard.
So glad you made this video I'm returning my j7 as it has a confirmed fault and was going to re order but I'll be getting the s9 as I was disappointed with the j7 pickup thought mine was bad because of the fault but looks like its just how it is thanks again for the video 📹 😊
I have my j7 setup to do double passes. It has been great. Getting the s9 just worries me because it’s got to be due for a refresh at some point then you’ll be kicking yourself
@@bigjim1488 I done the double pass but unfortunately not impressed but mine has a fault confirmed by irobot with the roller compartment so it's more than likely down to that I'm replacing it with refurbished s9 till the new s9 comes out 🙂
@@patriciastevens5920 the cleaning head module needed to be replaced on my specific machine not all j7s but I ended up getting the s9 instead perfect pick up and I do not regret it I bought two so both floors covered 🙂
I'd never consider the S9 over the J7. I don't have pets but there are many more obstacles than dog poop and I can send my J7+ off into a room without going to inspect it first. It avoids small cables and everything. This test isn't so much real world. You can set J7+ to double down on a room. You can also send it out again. Small charging cables, etc, I can send my J7+ anywhere and not worry about it getting hung into something.
The J7 has to be used a ton it takes quite a while to map out a house, it gets way better the more you use and it is also more hard floors not carpet really
I've had seven s9s and yes they clean by far the best. But the navigation stinks. I own two j7 Plus today navigation is great and I'm okay with the vacuuming ability.
So far the j7 is going back to the store it came from. Tried everything to connect to wifi. Says incorrect password everytime. I guess we'll keep vacuuming by hand.
I live with someone who has lots of long hair fall out around the house and the j7 rollers does a good job of storing all the hair in a gap of the roller. No issues there, imagine the s9 does the same.
@@mp8359 What do you mean by the Gap of the roller? I think this is also not ideal, but it may be better than my current Robot Vac where I have to cut out the hair wrapped around the roller.
Amazon is supposed to be or trying to buy Irobot which makes me wonder if this is way China vacumm companies can get their dirt bin technology since Amazon is a dumping store for China products.
You should make a appropriate kids channel and put the J7 plus and then also do a 12 or a little money robot vacuums as you have test with all of your robot vacuums
I bought the J7+ after watching lots of videos including yours. My earlier 960 Roomba cleans well, but I never use the schedule function because I always have to make sure the floor is picked up due to cat toys and cords, etc. The J7 on the other hand rarely gets into trouble and does a respectable job vacuuming. A pleasant surprise with the J7 was how quiet it is compared to my 960. Being retired and home a lot of the time I enjoy not having my Roomba screaming as it goes by while I'm on the phone or listening to music. I found that I use the schedule function all the time ensuring a constantly cleaned home. So all in all, I'm very happy with the J7 and have relegated the older 960 to the second floor.
This video didn’t make the j7 look to good…?
Apples and oranges. The J7 is really nothing more than an i7 or i3 with a front mounted camera and increased AI. The drivetrain, suction motor and other internals are identical to the i7 and i3.
A more equivalent comparison would be between the i7 and j7.
I imagine that a J9+ is in the works that will utilize the S9 architecture with the J series sensor suite and AI. Then a fair comparison can be made.
However, as it stands, the S9 will always pick up better, but will be worse at object recognition and avoidance.
Stress tests are helpful, but if you own a robot vacuum and run it regularly, there is no reason for your home to get anywhere near that messy. So I would say, in the real world, the artificial AI and object avoidance are much more desirable than raw power.
I have two i3+, and no pets, so I'm more than satisfied with my cleaning setup, but in the future, for me, at least, object avoidance and auto emptying bins are the true pathway to autonomous cleaning. And if my vacuum has to take more than one pass, once in awhile for a "deep clean" then so be it.
The big difference I like about the J7 is cord avoidance, various other robovacs have gotten stuck on or sucked up cords. Also since the J7 is a forward camera based robovac it can be updated on what to avoid in the future which means it will get stuck less than previous robovacs.
I think I definitely saw the J7 miss some spots, but I think it still does a good job at cleaning. I feel like the J7 should get a second test.
I really like Adam reviews, I found them most fair and useful
Thank you!
Thanks to this video. I have decided to get the room a J7+ because it could really help with avoiding objects. Even though I don’t have pets. I sometimes might have stuff around on the floor. Plus the vacuum is more affordable 💀 💸 It’s also arriving today for me! I have had a old roomba for a very long time. I yet it is still working reallly well. But, does has some bon issue sometimes. But, I always stick with iRobot, because it’s insane how long a robot vacuum can last over the years?!1!1😳
Great test! Thanks for your efforts. We have 2 dogs so I went with the J7+ and am happy with it.
The s9 is such a beast. I do love my j7 but I’d rock an s9 if I wasn’t afraid it would eat my cables and possible dog poop.
The S9’s vacuuming looks so nice. Carpet looks like it was done with a good upright. Can’t afford it so I just ordered the J7+ through their subscription offer of 29 a month. Hope delivery isn’t slow.
Reason why I got the j7+ because of the value. It’s about $400 cheaper than the s9+…plus I have a dog with double coat and it does a really good job of picking up her fur.
Have been waiting for this one! Another awesome video, thanks Adam! PS: any chance we might get to see your lego investing tips video this year? :D
I have to object to this test. While I personally enjoy Fruity Pebbles, it's hard to say what a robot's individual preferences might be.
In all seriousness, from what I understand the J7 has a learning phase. I'll find out soon enough. Got one on order. Still, I've loved these little vacuums since the beginning. My wife hates them and asserts that they "Suck at vacuuming."
After the obligatory, "Yes, that's what they do," I explain that the difference between the floor being vacuumed at all or not at all is that robot.
Great video, thanks for making it!
Was that intended to be a joke?
We have the 980 currently and it’s about done battery wise. We’ve had it over 3 years and the battery just doesn’t hold a charge anymore. The wheels need replacing as well so I figured with those expenses maybe we look at a new one with the self emptying bin. Which one would you recommend as a new version of our 980??
You have another video of the S9 having many problems (a year ago), are those problems mostly fixed now ?
After watching hours and hours of your and other's robo-vacuum reviews. I am convinced (for countries where it is available) the Viomi S9 (500$) is the king right now. Suction power, mopping, 90min battery life at max power, AI for avoiding all kinds of obstacles, great mapping app and self empty bin.
How does one buy it in the USA?
I don't see anything, in the company's own literature, about obstacle avoidance with the S9. Viomis have been getting some pretty poor vacuuming reviews too, likely due to their fixed brush rolls, but that S9 looks like it might actually be flexibly suspended. I guess if you really want self-empy it's a good budget choice, but most vacuums, in that price range, have all those other boxed ticked with a better cleaning record to boot.
Hey Adam,
Another great video, I was surprised at how bad the J7+ did, actually. It did pass the poop test so that’s a big plus for pet owners. I noticed in the iRobot guarantee they will replace the robot if it does a poop strike but not clean the mess it makes if it does. I guess that’s something.
On another note, I’m excited, yesterday I was able to get a Shark AI XL for review. My first self-empty. While not my first choice it’s looking like it might be a decent choice. It will be my 5th robot ever and my fourth review situation. My first was a very early Roomba I bought from Costco and returned because it sucked in a bad way.
Keep up the good work and maybe you can stress the AI XL? Oh a note I’ll be adding to my review that I already know. WTF is Shark thinking by NOT including spare little brushes and a filter like most big kits, including them, include? I agree $650 is high. I am curious how noisy or quiet it is versus the JetBot.
Have a great Sunday!
Joe
I have the j 7 and I use it every other day and I change the settings to extra clean so it does a double take and I noticed it does take a little longer but if I start it in the morning by the time I get home at 5 PM the house is perfectly clean so keep that in mind it’ll only do one quick pass and Collett good so I suggest doing the extra clean setting so with that you got it appreciate that he didn’t run over the poop because yes the other one did a really good job with one quick pass keep in mind it ran over the poop and theoretically with a smeared all over the house
Are you going to do a 2021 top 3 picks like vacuum wars does every year? It would be great to hear your opinion on that!
Thanks for all the reviews. I have the J7+ but have been having problems with side brushes breaking off and it’s now making weird sounds. So…sending it back for the Roborock S7+ (I’m originally a Roborock type of guy but ventured out for the first time to iRobot).
Yes I will work on one soon mid nov.
Random question ,but which robot do you you use as your go to daily cleaning robot?
I would prob just run the s9 while at work since it take so long. I have so many robots that I don’t just use one
Did you have "Careful Drive" mode activated on the S9+? It's not activated by default, but lets the front-mounted structured light sensor work the way it was designed to since its inception, though it didn't ever work that way until now. I haven't tried it, personally. Unfortunately, now that we have 3.18.11, my S9+ is smashing into objects that it used to respect before. I would turn on "Careful Drive" mode, but it supposedly misses areas more, so I haven't tried that. Are you noticing your S9 being aggressive with your walls, especially where there are wooden moldings near the baseboards?
Yes it is on. Seems to be working as good as ever.
@@AdamsReviews Very interesting. I was hoping that the SLS would "see" the poop better now that it's been activated to its potential. Thanks!
Boom thanks mate been wanting this really appreciate it 👍
although i might be a little young, i'm interested in these videos and these videos because i LOVE technology! :D
Thanks for the comparison. The S9+ was hands down the better vacuum, as long as you don't have a big pile of dog poop on the floor, which most people do not.
Do you think the J7+ does better with rugs than the S9+? My S9 really struggles with rugs. They aren’t thick rugs either. I can’t run my S9 unless I’m home to babysit it, and that’s getting extremely frustrating.
Yes. the s9 is very low and has trouble with rugs and thick carpet
At first I was kind of bummed as the J7 came out just a month after I bought the S9+...but after seeing this (and I have a cat not a dog =) I feel much better - plus I have zero complaints about the s9 - it almost never gets stuck on anything, if anything it drags everything home to the base.
I almost returned my s9+ because I have dogs, but it only goes at night when they’re sleeping. Plus, areas with wires like behind tvs, can be excluded in the app. s9+ all the way. Gets pet hair out of fancy area rugs.
They need to make upgrades for bots... that way we could upgrade to LIDAR Nav and a front camera on the front of the S9+ Its clearly the best on the market still! If they sold upgrades that would be amazing!
I agree with the s9 over the j7, I don’t have a dog problem, my comment is on the design of the dust bin. I like the lower profile s9 dust bin. Great videos
I don’t know if you mentioned it but did you turn on careful drive for the s9+?
Is the software up to date on the J7?
Ordered my S9+ last night was debating on these two thank you for this vid conforming I made a good purchase!
Hi , can you please recommend best robo vacuum till date as I hate my i7+ for keep bumping and scratching my floor and furniture. Please help
I just bought the J7+ to replace my old Shark. It cleans better than the Shark, but it’s very loud and seems to take an entire day to clean my small living area. Perhaps it will speed up after a few runs???
Which is better the Roomba s9 or j7?
Just got my j7. Other than how long it takes to map vs LiDAR robots it’s great. It overall seems like a true robot warrior. After 4 days looks 6moths old
Is the j7 better than the i7 in terms of its cleaning ability? Not including its obstacle avoidance
Adam, in your stress comparison if you could include the shark ai and test it’s object avoidance that would be awesome
Will do but the problem with the shark is it cannot handle a stress test because it does not have a bin sensor.
@@AdamsReviews true. It’s like you have to set up 2 different stress tests. One for iRobot and one for the rest. iRobot is in another league on that regard.
So glad you made this video I'm returning my j7 as it has a confirmed fault and was going to re order but I'll be getting the s9 as I was disappointed with the j7 pickup thought mine was bad because of the fault but looks like its just how it is thanks again for the video 📹 😊
I have my j7 setup to do double passes. It has been great. Getting the s9 just worries me because it’s got to be due for a refresh at some point then you’ll be kicking yourself
@@bigjim1488 I done the double pass but unfortunately not impressed but mine has a fault confirmed by irobot with the roller compartment so it's more than likely down to that I'm replacing it with refurbished s9 till the new s9 comes out 🙂
What’s the “confirmed fault” you say about the J7? Thanks
@@patriciastevens5920 the cleaning head module needed to be replaced on my specific machine not all j7s but I ended up getting the s9 instead perfect pick up and I do not regret it I bought two so both floors covered 🙂
please compare ease of mapping - different rooms, different floors.
Is the i8 they sell at Costco the same as the i7 or the i9? Have you tested the one they sell at Costco? Thanks.
The i7 and i8 are the same. The only difference is the i8 has a bigger battery.
The s9 is not the same.
Great video! Thank you
I love my s9+. Best vacuum out there
I'd never consider the S9 over the J7. I don't have pets but there are many more obstacles than dog poop and I can send my J7+ off into a room without going to inspect it first. It avoids small cables and everything. This test isn't so much real world. You can set J7+ to double down on a room. You can also send it out again. Small charging cables, etc, I can send my J7+ anywhere and not worry about it getting hung into something.
Try as test snipers of paper….this is a real challenge for most vacuum robots….
The J7 has to be used a ton it takes quite a while to map out a house, it gets way better the more you use and it is also more hard floors not carpet really
I've had seven s9s and yes they clean by far the best. But the navigation stinks. I own two j7 Plus today navigation is great and I'm okay with the vacuuming ability.
how about cords and under beds/couches
What do you think the J9+ will run? $1500? Lol
Did I just hear him say, “ I’m going put the same amount of fruity pebbles “?
Pile of poop in a test , classic LOL
So far the j7 is going back to the store it came from.
Tried everything to connect to wifi. Says incorrect password everytime.
I guess we'll keep vacuuming by hand.
S9 is obviously awesome but for dog people that may have accidents seem to automatically have to go with the j7. 😢
Roomba S9 vs Roomba j7 cool
Good job
I want your combo j7+
You need to put some more mess in the corners for these tests…
I have both models and the j7 is better then the s9 on hard floors the j7 learns it’s environment and remembers
Big S9 fan
Please do a long hair stress test.
I live with someone who has lots of long hair fall out around the house and the j7 rollers does a good job of storing all the hair in a gap of the roller. No issues there, imagine the s9 does the same.
@@mp8359 well breaking news for you, that's not good job. Good job is if they end up on the bin, not on the roller.
@@mp8359 What do you mean by the Gap of the roller? I think this is also not ideal, but it may be better than my current Robot Vac where I have to cut out the hair wrapped around the roller.
I was wasn't impressed with the J7
Jeeze my bump-n-go 880 does better than the J7+
Subscribe to your video!😍😘😇🤗😎😋🙂😁😂
Amazon is supposed to be or trying to buy Irobot which makes me wonder if this is way China vacumm companies can get their dirt bin technology since Amazon is a dumping store for China products.
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J7 roomba 😂 roomba s9
You should make a appropriate kids channel and put the J7 plus and then also do a 12 or a little money robot vacuums as you have test with all of your robot vacuums
dude what?
S9 versus ROBOROCK s7, but with 2 or 3 runs if needed.
His poor floor
I hope that's fake poop
MATHEO
I think I robot will release J9+ like j7+ with PUP CAMERA