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2022 BMW S1000RR vs GSXR 1000 DYNO SHOOTOUT!!! Which bike is Best for the Money??
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2022
- 2017 GSXR 1000 came in for a Brock's Performance exhaust install while on the same day, a 2022 BMW S1000RR came in with a different type of exhaust to be installed. Which one do you like better???
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BMW during warranty...Suzuki for an eternity.
I can’t disagree lol. It’s the same with BMW cars lol
You beat me to it! European vehicles get undeserved prestige. They're really unreliable.
You pretty much need factory sponsorship to keep them running. You definitely aren't going to get their motogp reliability on the street.
absolutely right
I have 70, 000 miles on my s1000rr with no issues.
@@kk-qu1zc the world does not revolve around you.
That S1K is sick but… GSXR for life
The s1000 is sweet but I perfer the Gsxr. It's a great all around bike
I mean if that what u can afford. I rather come up with 7k more and get beast.i instead of paying 18k and invest 8 k more to get close to bmw .
@@hunterxl8025is it really worth an extra 7k?
@@hunterxl8025not worth it. Just like any european, its junk
The Brocks on the GSXR looks awesome! The BMW sounds LOUD ASF! I like the GSXR the best personally.
I got a Hornet 600 with straight pipe 3 inches… that’s louder than every bike I met 😝
I have a 08 zx10 just a megaphone slip on. The bike is so loud it kinda gets on my nerves now. Plus other guys I ride with want me to do something with it. I have it that way because people can’t drive and they cut you off because they can see you on the side of them. But you can hear me
Love the gsxr content 👌🏼 thanks for all your videos
Now that’s the sound I like right there. It sounds just like a gsx-r 1000
The s1000 is basically a German gsxr
Zuke nation all day! Everyday!
Huge fan of ARROW ...so underrated...very light n makes serious POWER
Both great bikes imo. Very few riders could handle that power on a road course.
I’m a gsxr fanatic I can only ride a gsxr live the look and sounds of a gsxr period.
Bmw till I die
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Gixx rrrrrrr
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Suzuki for the win....just on initial cost and ease of ownership vs the Beemer!!
Brentuning can flash the 22 s1000rr just like the 20-21 🤷🏽♂️
Suzuki all the way
Was cold start the main issue with the 22 and the exhaust? I've seen others throwing on Akrapovic headers for the cat delete and keeping the stock Akrapovic muffler for a boost in sound without being to crazy. Any engine lights with the Arrow?
So was the gsxr unrestricted and flashed?
I love them both but I am a gsxr fan love the gixxer
Fun fact: BMW Tried to make a Inline 4 Like Suzuki’s K5 1000 engine😉
We all know who’s on top + Happy 100 Years Suzuki!
Show me the similarities in engine between the k5 gixxer and the BMW 😅
I know BMW used a K5 chassis when they were engineering there motor for the gen1 S1K. There's video of them testing on a closed track (Leaked video)
@@marlonhooi8263 bmw loosely based the first gen motor around the k5, you can interpret that however you want but the first gen S1ks foundation was the K5
@@MADLITS1K not disagreeing, but what’s the similarities between the both engines? The K5 GSXR1000 & the 1ST gen BMW.
@@marlonhooi8263 “loosely based” lol they pretty much just did their homework on the k5 since it was top bike back then, studied their motor and made a better motor, that’s all.. the motors back then had similar power delivery (lots of torque across the RPMs) but if you’re talking about internal parts in the motor, most likely nothing
I can’t wait to see it after the tune is available
Do you sell the mid pipe to eliminate the big box under bike on a 2016 GSX S1000 i have a yoshimia muff and want to get one of your flashes....
Damn Drew slow down let the man record the stock s1k exhaust! 😆😆
Good video. I can't wait for the White Lighting Busa in Ol Mexico!!! Zuke Nation
Super super Chris, that looks super super good. Guys there putting that super super stuff on those super super bikes. The results were super super cool.
Keep up the super super great content. 😆
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Nice 2022 BMW S1000RR is out nice. My favorite color, baby blue white and red only
Hey Chris any updates in the flash for the 2022 hayabusa
What's the quality of gas like where you are? In the UK we get 95 or 98 Ron. Cheers.
Love how they were the last people to find out the 2022 ECU are locked on the BMW
Where did you get the windscreen from? Also the tank pads for the gixxer
Chris you just killing the game. Great vid bro I'm so ready to TUNE 🚀🚀🚀
Chris from you new experience in roll racing could you tell me what is the best gearing for a stock wheel base full bolt on busa gen 2
Bren tuning might have a tune out for it idk if you know them ask for Troy
I’m a Yamaha fan boy but my 2020 S1000RR M sport is nuts!
Chris how can you show power graphs in mph. That’s never going to show a true overlay as it depends on gearing.
Really good stuff you do, educational! Can anyone recommend a good place for tuning in Dallas Texas?
BMW isn’t restricted on top. It’s restricted in the midrange. With tuning you will probably see a few more on top. But huge gains in midrange on BMW. I want to see the flashed zx-10r against these
All the ZX-10r’s I’ve seen easily make 190+ with a flashed ECU and exhaust
Amazing creation so I brought all these thumbs ups for ya algorithms 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🔥🚀
BMW for me . I have a 2022 S1000RR just like that . I put on the SC1-R full exhaust system on mine . Took about 3 months to get it . but that's less time then the Akrapovic that I had to cancel after 6 months of waiting. I put it on myself the only thing I had to take off is the fairings the bottom and the top nothing else ya I took that BMW apart just to put on a exhaust system ?
What were the torque figures Chris?
How much for tune with map for motor and one for gas ?
Good content and info.....Zuke Nation!
The most important part is when you show the viewers the horsepower and torque on the computer monitor and you show it so fast and we can’t even see it for more than one second. You need to keep your camera still for about three seconds on the numbers for the horsepower and torque and that way we can absorb it.
Zuknation all day every day. Mine makes that bmw sound weak 😎
Whats the difference between the penta and the CT? I know you kinda said it before but I forgot and a buddy wanted to know...
Stainless vs Titanium
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I actually own both bikes.. can't go wrong with neither bike. Both ridiculously fast.
Good morning Chris!Which brand tank grips are those on the Gsx-r?
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hello guys, on a brand new bike, changing the exhaust system from the begining without breaking in engine is not a problem ? thanks for your videos that are all great
I'm not a mechanic by trade but I don't see how changing the exhaust should interfere with the engine break in. I bought a 2008 ZX10R new and at around 500 miles I put on a full 2 Brothers system with a power commander and continued with the break-in period to 1000 miles. I never had any problems but I always had in the back of my mind that I never felt the full power stock so I could compare it to full power modified. It was a fast bike, but was it really faster than stock...? 🤔
I bought my 2020 s1000rr brand new and had the dealership install an Akrapovic full exhaust immediately. No issues breaking the bike in with the exhaust.
Anyone know the exact model of exhaust was used on the BMW?
Do you have any that compare the Ducati V4?
Motorcycles get me hyper. Yeah and I love doing wheelies
Oh the ECU is locked up by bmw they can change that stock ECU and put a tune ECU it will make a big difference. I haven’t ride a motorcycle for a long time I miss that a lot because of a lot of people still don’t look out for motorcycle riders so be safe
If you flash the ecu and remove the restrictions can you still get it to pass a smog test for registration?
I have the same exhaust In a box for my 2022 s1k I been dreading putting it on scare to break fairing clips
The only one that’s real is say to snap is lower center in front by tire. Upper inner is easy to un clip just pinch together at very top by cluster. But I figured out the hard way.
That Arrow exhaust sounds nice
what were the torque figures?
You're going to get more ECUs locked coming out of Europe as their restrictions on changing anything on a stock bike get more legislated.
Suzuki really went forward with this last gen gsxr1000. Previous gen gsxr1000 had a lubrication problem, oil is fed from side through crank which is not the best solution regarding to lubrication of the last conrod bearings in line. Folks who raced hill climb cars with those kind of engines have problems with conrod bearing sizing because of higher lateral forces in the corners. Another good thing is that new gsxr1000 have is cassette type gearbox, easy to pull out repair and get back in, no need to remove engine from the frame and splitting the crankcase. Another thing that catches the eye is the frame, when you look at it from side it seems so narrow, not beefed up like ZX10R or CBR1000RR, does anyone had any problems with the frame so far (cracking, bending). My bet is on Suzy, best package overall. MOORE MAFIA ROCKS.
do you have remote flash for a Yamaha r6 2014?
You need to get in touch with brentuning. They’ve got tunes for it. They’re one of the only ones in the 22 s1000rr ecu right now
Ya don’t think he knows that ? He’s not in the business to have other people tune his bikes though. Lol
He’s had a couple bikes with been running on them like the Zx10r and other bmw’s
GSXR any day!
Gixxer all day. I will say the bmw is a smidge better at a few things but that gixxer w new parts is cheaper than the BMW stock.
Not gonna lie those two 2002 Suzuki's (yellow one and blue one) that were outside are still sexy looking still sexier than some of these new bikes that's for sure. #SuperManHeadLights
Definitely zuke nation just wish I could afford a 1000 😅 but till then I’ll just have fun on my 600
Bad ass bikes but i gotta be honest my OCD will not allow me to own that BMW with the offset wheels🤦🏻 has to be symmetrical 🤪so i guess i would take the GSXR
Zukenation 💪🏾
SUZUKI GSXR ONLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
BMW’ is Growing on Me man
GSX-R guy myself
What’s goin on with black Mamba
Suzuki - Best brand overall, legendary quality, value and performance.
The finish on Suzukis always looks very cheap compared to Honda and even Kawasaki
I got that Aarow titanium on my '21 zx10 and its incredibly loud
So does my homie.. Shit sounds like it’s cammed..
@Willy Beamin hell yes it does. I was gonna say that but didnt
@@mattb3516 his shit is tough.. Just got it Carbon fiber wrapped with a satin wrap on the frame.. He wants to swap out to a graves exhaust or Brock’s Penta Carbon to match the bike
@@WillyBeamGSXR1kmost def would have to that penta carbon.
The GSXR is it for me
How do you compare a tuned bike to a non tuned bike why not compare stock vs stock its possible by changing the the exaust without a tune the BMW may have lost power
That’s kind of a fail for the tuner not to check first whether the ‘22 BMW has an encrypted ECU. It’s a Euro bike with Euro 5 requirements so not surprised that it’s locked up. I’d pull that Arrow until the wizards figure out the encryption because it’s going to suck to ride it like that.
Just my opinion of course, but that ECU may be highly resistant to the de-encryption effort. Like, impossible.
Exactly lol
Its not, Brentuning so far is the only people to Tune 22s
He just need to call Bren
the bren guy doesn't even dyno tune.
If I had the money I’d get the BMW but Suzuki is the best bang for your buck
There is a reason why once people start riding/racing Suzukis, they never go back
Yes tru, had 3 bikes all of Them gsxr
My case it's Yamaha
Gixxer all the way
@mooremafia they locked the new ecu? Damn. That's a shock. Hope it doesn't become a trend?oh and I'm team Suzuki all the way. Since 88
Brentune unlocked the 22! Woolich nope
BOTH ARE BEAST
Where is the shop?
Lol nice wall of ladies in the back ground while weighting the exhausts lmao
I’m bias so imma say s1000rr
Cool Chris. Rather the Suzuki. Who locks their ignition system except the Germans. Why?
GSXR FOR SURE.
Stay well Chris.
ZX10R is locked. The new Hayabusa is locked.
Owned both. BMW without a doubt! That s1000rr will get 20s plus hp when just flashed. Plus the torque is higher do to the shiftcam!
I’m the other way bud. Had gen 1 s1000rr, now got 2014 gsxr1000. I think it’s a bit better. Both awesome. But gen 1 had teething problems. Real status symbol tho. Stay safe kid
@@bignosecrisuk5860 and we all know once japanese bike already modified its a lot faster
I choose fully flashed unlocked 22 hayabusa.
I'm a Kawasaki guy I own a 636 but looking for a liter bike idk I have it down to the s1000 and the gsxr now so thanks for the video what are your guys thoughts
Mainly Twisties highway and occasional track days
If these are driving past side by side which one do you stare at? BMW looks no question.
That battery is low on the 2017 gsx-R 1000
GSXR baby!
How's the new zx10r compare
Right up there with the competition!
Blue 👍 the BMW rider better have some good ear plugs !
Would want both bikes
Zuke Nation all the way from cape Town south africa
YES SIR!!!
This just made my life difficult. Now I want an RR. My issue is on the net I see the MSRP is $17,000 yet when I try to shop it out they’re asking $23-27,000. I prefer A cash sale and not sure what that would be. Any suggestion? As for tuning it, being as it would be A well ridden bike it would be nice to ride it stock for A bit, then pipe it and finally tune it after stepping along. It would really be the full experience. Then A stretch and gear. It might be A really quaint ride for the long haul. Some bikes you just peak them out without all the thrashing.
On an RR don't expect much of a discount if any unfortunately. The neon shortage due to global issues is going to make the chip shortage worse than what we're already seeing. Shipping has also gone up pretty much across the board. I was in your situation, cash on hand and still had to fight bad enough neither the dealer or I are too happy. Any discount you get is a win honestly. Mine gets allocated April 4th and that still doesn't guarantee the exact build as BMW is basing this piece off what they have available to build it. So for example I have been waiting a month for allocation, once BMW confirms my specific build goes out and they have some time to change it, M- package, Premium, forged wheels, and so on. If BMW doesn't have something available for the build, they send whatever. The part that sucks for many is you just don't know until its allocated and for the money, if it isn't the exact bike you want, I wouldn't buy it. That brings up the shortages everywhere else. Yamaha doesn't even really let dealers know what is coming. They just show up, no ordering. Ducati had a 6 month out wait for a Panigale. If a shop has one that's probably your best bet but even then they know what they have and BMW notifying dealers about the shortage in the last month isn't exactly inspiring. Good news is if you're selling a bike right now, you'll get top dollar for it. Best of luck!!
Buy a demo model for a huge discount. It'll have a full warranty and be broken in ready to go when you buy it.
Zuk nation 😍🔥🤜🏻💥🤛🏻😎😈
The bmw engine it comes with restrictions and you can’t push the engine too far like the Suzuki gsxr does.
After all both bikes are cool and more than enough for public roads.
Suzuki Nation
Gsx-r 1000 all day….
Zuke nation!!
Both bikes are nice but I'll ride with zuk nation