What if Brenner has powers too, like in the Karen wheeler theory, you said when she spoke to Brenner, her whole mood changed, and she became mesmorised by his prescence. So maybe thats how he stopped the demogorgon is s1. But, he could also be wanting to access the kids powers from the lab, so thats why he works there. But if his Father got powers from Dimension X, he could have inherently passed it down to Brenner, Im not sure, 'its just a theory'
That would be epic for real! Definitely leaning towards Brenner's dad as well, but now thinking of it, would be pretty wild if we saw a flashback from Hopper, and we saw him play Hopper's drunk dad that treated him like shit. I just thought of that lol.
Damn good point! How did he survive the demogorgon in season 1?!! Now that I think about it, Brenner seems almost schizophrenic in how he’s presented in the show. The first season he’s sinister. He tries to get El to kill a cat? El kills two guards after that incident though. Was Brenner pleased that El killed 2 guards? The lady who murdered Benny, of Benny’s Burgers, seemed to work for Brenner. Then Brenner is not seen in seasons 2 and 3, except as an illusion by Kali, and as the one who ordered El’s mom to be lobotomized. He comes back in season 4, and does a good job of getting El to get her powers back before freaking out and trying to keep her from leaving to save her friends. All the flashbacks with the kids in the lab and he looks like Jim Henson, gently guiding kids to learn to harness their powers. Other than punishing Henry, in those flashbacks he seems more gentle. What happened after El sent Henry to the Upside Down? Did the gov officials who ran the lab crack down on Brenner? After all those kids died on his watch. Did they blackmail him to try and harness El’s powers for their own purposes, not his own? Who was really in charge of that lab? Was Brenner a tool/puppet, or is he the real puppetmaster?
I'm truly starting to believe that Brenner is the Monster or created the Monster because of how he acted, the monster not necessarily being Vecna. Could be Mama, Kali, literally anyone he's ever done wrong. The Kali illusion I have never forgotten about since it happened, because that was the first time we see Brenner "alive" after the Demagorgan attack, yet it's just an illusion. If Kali and Brenner have some sort of alliance or are working together it would be wild. Kali hates Brenner but would be an epic twist if that was just a ruse to throw El off from knowing Brenner was alive.
Brenner is always so proud of 011 when she kills someone. He's also like a cat with 9 lives. Wasn't season 4 his 3rd time of being killed only to be alive later?
@@blizz2795 I know in season 1 he supposedly died after being attacked by the demogorgon. In season 4 they shot him to death with a high powered rifle. I don’t recall a third death. Unless he died in the play “The first shadow”? Haven’t seen it.
One of the few criticisms i have of ST is how frequently they've supposedly killed off characters....only to bring them back again....which is pointless! They've already done it with Doctor Brenner...so again? Come on!!! Unless there's timetravel, or a Vecna vision....we shouldn't see Brenner appear in 1987 Hawkins come S5!!!
This one actually is debunked. We had a comment on this video from someone saying that Matthew Modine posted this same picture back in 2019, and HE DID! It's on his IG posts all the way back in 2019, I check to confirm and it is there. So he reposted this picture most likely to mess with us fans lol, he's done that in the past too lol!
@DLA_AlternativePodcast Brenner is far too important of a character to the storyline to not have some influence on the final season surely? Timetravel, visions & flashbacks allows for him to reappear in some capacity, just as he did in S2 when Kali gave Eleven a vision of Doctor Brenner.
Thank you for confirming that! Just looked back and the 1 from 2022 I don't see but the 1 from 2019 is there with a second post connected. I will no doubt address in a future video, thank you so much. I kept thinking to myself, "Why does this look so familiar?" answer solved lol!
NO DOUBT! Barb better make a return, I just hope she doesn't influence Max somehow. Like getting in her head like "They will never find you, like the did me" so ghosty stuff lol.
What if Brenner has powers too, like in the Karen wheeler theory, you said when she spoke to Brenner, her whole mood changed, and she became mesmorised by his prescence. So maybe thats how he stopped the demogorgon is s1. But, he could also be wanting to access the kids powers from the lab, so thats why he works there. But if his Father got powers from Dimension X, he could have inherently passed it down to Brenner, Im not sure, 'its just a theory'
I think he will actually be Brenner’s dad. Also I think that El will have a talk with Brenner in the Upside Down
That would be epic for real! Definitely leaning towards Brenner's dad as well, but now thinking of it, would be pretty wild if we saw a flashback from Hopper, and we saw him play Hopper's drunk dad that treated him like shit. I just thought of that lol.
Damn good point! How did he survive the demogorgon in season 1?!!
Now that I think about it, Brenner seems almost schizophrenic in how he’s presented in the show. The first season he’s sinister. He tries to get El to kill a cat? El kills two guards after that incident though. Was Brenner pleased that El killed 2 guards? The lady who murdered Benny, of Benny’s Burgers, seemed to work for Brenner. Then Brenner is not seen in seasons 2 and 3, except as an illusion by Kali, and as the one who ordered El’s mom to be lobotomized. He comes back in season 4, and does a good job of getting El to get her powers back before freaking out and trying to keep her from leaving to save her friends.
All the flashbacks with the kids in the lab and he looks like Jim Henson, gently guiding kids to learn to harness their powers. Other than punishing Henry, in those flashbacks he seems more gentle.
What happened after El sent Henry to the Upside Down? Did the gov officials who ran the lab crack down on Brenner? After all those kids died on his watch. Did they blackmail him to try and harness El’s powers for their own purposes, not his own? Who was really in charge of that lab? Was Brenner a tool/puppet, or is he the real puppetmaster?
I'm truly starting to believe that Brenner is the Monster or created the Monster because of how he acted, the monster not necessarily being Vecna. Could be Mama, Kali, literally anyone he's ever done wrong. The Kali illusion I have never forgotten about since it happened, because that was the first time we see Brenner "alive" after the Demagorgan attack, yet it's just an illusion. If Kali and Brenner have some sort of alliance or are working together it would be wild. Kali hates Brenner but would be an epic twist if that was just a ruse to throw El off from knowing Brenner was alive.
Brenner is always so proud of 011 when she kills someone. He's also like a cat with 9 lives. Wasn't season 4 his 3rd time of being killed only to be alive later?
@@blizz2795 I know in season 1 he supposedly died after being attacked by the demogorgon. In season 4 they shot him to death with a high powered rifle. I don’t recall a third death. Unless he died in the play “The first shadow”? Haven’t seen it.
One of the few criticisms i have of ST is how frequently they've supposedly killed off characters....only to bring them back again....which is pointless! They've already done it with Doctor Brenner...so again? Come on!!!
Unless there's timetravel, or a Vecna vision....we shouldn't see Brenner appear in 1987 Hawkins come S5!!!
This one actually is debunked. We had a comment on this video from someone saying that Matthew Modine posted this same picture back in 2019, and HE DID! It's on his IG posts all the way back in 2019, I check to confirm and it is there. So he reposted this picture most likely to mess with us fans lol, he's done that in the past too lol!
@DLA_AlternativePodcast Brenner is far too important of a character to the storyline to not have some influence on the final season surely? Timetravel, visions & flashbacks allows for him to reappear in some capacity, just as he did in S2 when Kali gave Eleven a vision of Doctor Brenner.
This video was already posted on his instagram in 2019 and 2022
Thank you for confirming that! Just looked back and the 1 from 2022 I don't see but the 1 from 2019 is there with a second post connected. I will no doubt address in a future video, thank you so much. I kept thinking to myself, "Why does this look so familiar?" answer solved lol!
I don't know about Papa but if Barb doesn't haunt season 5, then its not stranger things
NO DOUBT! Barb better make a return, I just hope she doesn't influence Max somehow. Like getting in her head like "They will never find you, like the did me" so ghosty stuff lol.
I think he's just going to be a random character lol
Not gonna lie would be hilarious!