Reasons why Eddie could be 10 1 He tells Chrissy that he used to have a buzz cut like the kids in the lab. 2 We know that music helps to block out any vecna or upside down, after Max uses it in s4 and Eddie worships metal the loudest music there is, and of course blasted master of puppets down there. 3 When he sees Chrissy die, the trauma on his face like he'd seen it before, and if he is 10 he would of seen 006 and Dr Ellis die in his visions. 4 He's not really shocked or even that freaked after Dustin and the gang tell him everything that's been going on, he maybe just relieved that they believe he didn't do anything, but it is odd how quickly he joins the group with no questions. 5 He may not remember anything about his time in the lab after the massacre, using your powers affects your memories, and that mixed with the added trauma, however if 10 did remember his time there he never saw 11 in s4 at all so we never saw them together anyway. 6 He championed the different and the unique, like himself. 10 was a loner, sat alone away from the others. 7 He used drugs to possibly numb senses. 8 He played music as distraction in the upside down, now he could of known this would work because of Max, but we don't see anybody tell him to do this specifically, which is strange. 9 He runs Hellfire club and we know a lot of what is going on is related to the game, with the creatures etc, and he's the leader. Plus the name Hellfire, and we know what doesn't like fire. Sorry for going on a bit but what do you all think?
Literally phenomenal, it's been hard for me to stray into the fact that some of the other characters could possibly be numbers, just because Hawkins Lab has so much influence and control over the kids. It's hard to figure out how they could have escaped, but with this theory, and my thought about the fact 10 could be involved in some way. That could connect to his escape, but how is the question.I'm definitely going to be looking for more signs of 10 now no doubt. Much love for real, your thoughts are for real PHENOMENAL!
Doubt Eddie is 10 but do think he'll return to feature in S5. Can now see Vecna taunting Dustin by giving him visions of Eddie in order to break into his mind... similar to how he did Max in S4 by using the guilt she felt for Billy's death against her. Alternatively, like Eleven did Max, Vecna could have resurrected Eddie in the Upsidedown & take him to the dark side!
@Wazzu_07 I can see Eddie being used to taunt Dustin absolutely, if he's not 10 I'd still love to see the character come back somehow. I just wonder why we see the scene in the beginning of s4 and focus on his test, the whole interaction, it's just intriguing that's the audience's viewpoint.
@lilliana493 OK fair point, but think about the fact 10 is only known by his number never his name, like all the kids in the lab. And if 10 is dead in that scene, why did he not kill Brenner at the same time!!! Just a thought, but I see why people think 10 is just another child killed in the massacre. 😉
Brandon our boy and fellow math nerd... riddle me this: In season 4 episode 1 during the hellfire club D&D campaign Dustin rolls an eleven "and its a miss" on Vecna. Erica rolls a natural 20 and defeats Vecna. So if 11 loses and a 20 wins is it possible that the numbers of the test subjects matter since only three subjects ever left the lab.. The show is clearly based on this iconic game in a sense. Jane Ives/Hopper/Eleven = 011 Henry Creel/Vecna = 001 Kahli(?) = 008 TOTAL =020 If there is something to this it would mean that Dustin was right as he has never been wrong so far, that Vecna is the Mind Flayer's 5 star general and NOT the "Big Bad". Rather the Mind Flayer is the ultimate evil and to beat him eleven, eight, and one will have to team up to defeat him. What do you think about 11+1+8=20=win???
Yes yes yes totally agree with you it does seem that to defeat whatever IT is 001 011 and 008 have to come together to break the connection, makes perfect sense, I hope it's true because we'll see a full turnaround on Vecna😊
@@TonyMatulewicz J caught that as well. All of those numbers adding to 20 and who they represent. Those 3 test subjects may have to beat The mind flayed together.
No doubt in my mind I have always thought that every time we see the numbers the kids or group roill, HAVE MAJOR IMPORTANCE! I haven't strayed to far into the D&D campaigns yet, but definitely going to after see this! Will definitely figure out a theory and will gladly include this for sure! SHOUT OUT IS IN ORDER!!! Much love fam, it just keeps getting crazier and crazier lmfao!!!
The MF/Shadow Particles remains as the ultimate villain, only giving Henry the illusion that he is in control, using him to open a gate so that it can gain access to the world because it wants to takeover it. The ST stageplay also supports this theory as it depicts a young Henry Creel seemingly at odds with the Mindflayer as it constantly possessed him trying to get him to commit evil even though Henry doesn't want to! It also depicts Brenner as a villainous figure who constantly encourages Henry to kill. The stageplay seemed to humanize Henry more than vilify him.
Eddie's uncle Wyane is way too kosher about moving when Dr. Owen's ppl came to his house. It's like he's been waiting on them. He doesn't leave because Eddie goes on the run and then unfortunately dies.😢 None the less, he knows more than he's letting on, and because of that, i can't trust him fully just yet. After all, he is the one that brought up Victor Creel in the first place. Slight of hand, maybe? I feel like he's trying to take the attention away from the trailor park or from Eddie cause he's #10, and Wyane is, well, was in charge of keeping him hidden and safe. If that's the case, i feel extra bad for him.
I don't even know how to write it, it's not a theory, it's more like something I noticed and somehow put together... I recently started noticing that there are theories that Hopper's daughter Sara might be alive... then i was re-watching season 3, I noticed, the gas station seven eleven and Dustin, Erica, Steve and Robin, when they were in the cinema, they were watching Back to the Future where seven eleven is mentioned (I also only saw it somewhere, I haven't seen that movie)... and also when I guess in season 4 El sees a door with a rainbow, a little girl (008/Kali) and a second little girl, that should be El, but El isn't blonde and that girl was... so... somehow... Sara... I don't know ...
No doubt that's why I question the Mama Flashback when she sees Kali and Jane, which we think is El lol. I 100% agree, the blonde hair makes no sense if that's El. I always felt like that's why they had El wear a blonde wig in Season 1. Strictly to throw us off before we are even introduced to the whole Mama flashback scene. In my opinion there's only one reason there could be as to why they would actually WANT TO throw us off, and oddly the only thing I can think of is that blonde girl was Jane, but not El. As for Sara, I am still extremely thrown off how they will incorporate her importance for S5, but I have a theory coming soon that will talk about a Hopper scene that may tell us a little more than we thought about what happened to Sara.
Henry actually asked El if she could recall that very memory of her mom entering the room at the Lab finding her playing with Kali....implying that the little girl actually was Eleven! Like if it wasn't, then why would she lie? There'd be no benefit or reason for her to.
The lab renamed Henry/vecna, peter ballard. I had this discussion with my wife a few months ago and she's super smart and knows a lot about shows etc. I asked her if Owens wife was referencing Henry? Maybe he used to bring him home before he was fully committed and made a staff member!? And she said probably because shows won't usually name characters the same thing because it gets confusing. Unless it's for comedic relief like Pete and Pete or something like that!
Love watching your channel grow man! Keep up the great work! I think 10 could have been Eddie tbh... if he wasn't, they sure were trying to lead us to think that!
001 was Peter Ballard( he remaind a Ballard for Owens to protect himself since one has autonomous on and off evil switch) while working in the Lab, this might explain so much. Maybe he was adopted by the Owens. Since old school projects are usually drawings and we know Henry liked to draw and stuff, so what if..? The show fixates on energy manipulation, sound frequecies, eg, El's scream is so powerful she doesn't just scream for fun. Look at everytime she had to use most of her power like in season 2 when she closed the mother gate the lights shined much brighter, or when she banished henry to the UD the same happened but when she stopped screaming it went super deam. Light or lightning serves as a key or pathway/portal to another a different reality or dimension, look at the russian key in s3 it must be of the same MegaJoules of enery as lightning. Henry traveled through lightning beam to Dimension X. If you watch DBS when whis travels interdimensionally ... tired of typing just watch clips of that😅
Oh, just rememberd a scene where she didn't use her hands to direct her powers or whatever she'd be doing with her hands. In S4 Ep5/6 when she got pinned down by the guards after she couldn't escape, she used just her scream, and see what her scream did to the lights...and the guards😂
I think he lets the 8ball decide his path. There are ppl capable of reading minds, he knows that because he can. If you know what you're gonna do next, so will the enemy.
Peter guy is not Owens son :) Henry/001/Vecna is Petter Ballard. He worked in the lab under this name. Here is the quote: "When Stranger Things first announced Jamie Campbell Bower's casting, the character was named Peter and described as a caring orderly at a psychiatric hospital."
I was just coming here to write the same exact message. It did cross my mind when I watched S4...is it possible that Dr. Owens and his wife were Henry's (aka Peter) caregivers.
Great eye! I left that, just because we don't see that yet in this scene. But definitely have a theory coming about Henry and all the flashback scenes from Hawkins Lab! Much love always fam!
I don’t know if these mean anything, or if anyone’s ever brought them up; I’ll probably sound insane but: Rewatching Season 4, I noticed the letter that Mike was holding when he and El were talking about how he couldn’t even “write I love you”, that the bottom of the paper had rainbows. I also noticed when Fred, Nancy’s friend, went running from Vecna, that Vecna comes out from this place that looks like a tunnel or cave, and when the camera pans up it looked exactly like Billy’s grave/headstone that he was stuck in. It wasn’t dirt walls, it looked more stone like. With the new season names, I’m thinking maybe this is where they have to go in the upside down to try to help Max since her trauma results from mainly Billy being killed. I dunno. Anywayyyy, these just stuck out to me.
@@alexishuff ST has shown a consistent theme throughout about power coming from memories, & so like Mike, Jonathan & Joyce helped save Will from being full engulfed by the Mindflayer in S2 by reminding him of loving memories, I bet they'll repeat the trick with Max using the remainder of her unread letters which will give her the power to escape & awake from her coma. She did describe those letters as her "fail-safe"....& she also told Lucas that she'll try to evade Vecna by hiding in a good memory....which could have referred to the Snowball memory in S4 but also what's to come in S5! When Eleven resurrected Max, she placed her hand on her heart & seemed to transfer happy memories, but only between the pair (unlike Max's flashback in the Dear Billy episode escape). That's where she could be right now! Back in S4 E1, Lucas tells Max "It's like you're a ghost"...possibly foreshadowing how she'll appear in S5!
Think we'll see all of the remaining Numbers that Henry massacred at the lab return for S5 to be part of his hìs Mindlair storyline along with Virginia & Alice Creel, the S4 sacrifices & maybe even Eddie & possibly Jason! Could they now be mind-controlled by Vecna in Camazotz just like in A Wrinkle in Time? Perhaps part of his army? As a result of the shadow particles entering into them liks it did the Demogorgans in the Russian prison in S4?
pretty sure "voltage" just refers to the intensity of the electrical activity in Ten's brain. Ten has electrodes stuck to his head, which is how an electroencephalogram test - brain wave measurement - is taken. We also see Eleven and Will (in season 2) with electrodes on their head and scientists nearby monitoring the brain activity graph, and we know the graph spikes significantly when Eleven uses her powers. Interesting that they make a point of showing Will with the same electrodes that they typically use on the test subject kids. on that note i've been thinking about El's powers and their relation to the Upside Down, and I think that her powers could be heavily based on electromagnetism. We're repeatedly shown stuff to do with electricity and magnetism relating to the Upside Down - the generators required to open the gate in Hawkins Lab which then demagnetises Joyce's magnets, and El is able to use her powers to mess with the compass in season 1. El is able to tap into radio waves (high frequency electromagnetic waves), which she uses to find Will in S1. Interesting video as always, you seem to catch a lot of stuff everyone else misses, lol
Can't even begin to tell you how many times I just watch these scenes on repeat in order to catch them lol. Much love as always! It's interesting about the numbers/ or data on the sheet though. I looked up more about voltage I left out, and may make a short theory on, but those numbers are Low/Mid range for Voltage, which I found interesting. If you look at the 0.2 next to the word voltage, I figured it had to mean something. Apparently under 0.2 Volts or however the hell it's measured lol, is deadly to a human. But I guess the levels based off that data on the sheet are also close to deadly for a human, so long story short. The data on that sheet basically from what I'm researching, Number 10 should be dead, if he has that level of voltage in his brain. It's interesting thinking about the type of power these kids are emitting and shit. So WILD!!! LOL!
Been binging “The Magicians” on Netflix. One of the best shows on television in the last 10 years. In season 4 episode 5, Eliot is stuck inside a pocket dimension inside a god-like being. In order to break through the monster’s suppression of his psyche, the monster has taken over Eliot’s body, Eliot has to face his worst fear. Made me think of Will and his battle to free himself from the mindflayer’s control. In “The Magician’s” Eliot’s greatest fear was commitment. When his friend asked to make their bond stronger, Eliot dismissed it. It’s only when Eliot admitted to himself that he was scared to take his relationship with his friend to the next level, that he got a chance to free himself from the monster. Have no opinion on 10 being alive, but I found the episode with 10 curious. He seemed very effective, and he foresaw what was coming! So it could be that he tricked Henry into thinking he was dead. My query is this, were there numbers above 11? Who was 12? Was there a 12?
Spot on! The ST VR gameplay shows exactly this! The only reason Vecna could break into Will's mind was because he understood the nature of his fears, but he wasn't able to break into the rest of the boys' because they were too strong & carefree...not that he didn't attempt to!
Think there were more than 12 Numbers, & the figure was somewhere in the region of the mid-teens. The ST comics also show that there was a whole other batch of numbers before the ones we were shown in the S4 flashback scenes of the Rainbow Room. Whether they were based in Hawkins or at another location like Nevada where the Nina Project was conducted I'm not so sure. There's even mention of one of 'em with the ability to see into the future & actually seeing the Demogorgan & even Eleven!
Thanks for dropping this you noticed more than I did in that scene. 1 when 6 gives that look in the corridor, I get the impression 10 is not liked for some reason just like eleven, which is odd maybe him 11 and kali were friends and favourites to Brenner, which is why they 10 and 11 we see being segregated from the others, and I do think Kali gave him the 8 ball or it was her toy. 2 thanks for pointing out the similarities between 10 and max and Alice and what we see or don't see, I think that scene is very important and foreshadowed the max scene. 3 10 was powerful sometimes 11 needs a picture to find someone, so his powers of sight were strong, 4 the reason they measure the voltage (good spot) is they need a certain amount of energy to open a gate, which is what Brenner wants, and what Henry won't do, but that's another theory. 5 Good spot on the Peter thing didn't notice this. Can't wait for the video about Eddie. Thanks again 😉
HELL YEAH! Much love fam and amazing thought for real! I had a lot of fun making this one. It was wild how many random and odd things are around or happen. So many questions still lol. Appreciate you always!
@DLA_AlternativePodcast I was thinking about your Peter spot and it got me thinking again 😆, this really strengthens my Hopper was at Hawkins Lab with his daughter, Hopper and Owens seem familiar somehow, they could if Peter died have both lost a child, which is why Owens gives Hopper Jane's birth certificate in season 2, he knows how badly Hopper needs to be a parent again. He even probably sorted out, after Hoppers alleged death, Eleven staying with Joyce and moving to Cali, probably sorted out the house. I don't think Joyce was earning enough for that move.
@sarahpercival8460 also, when the lab guys and the military guys come to homes, they always take boxes of stuff. What stuff did they take of "Peter's" from Owen's? How did they know to take pics of D and D at Mike's and take the D and D games and stuff?
There are twins in the Comic Book. 9 a fire starter and 9.5 a teleporter. However, in the book 6 is a red headed girl who can see the future and in the show 6 was a young black boy with telekinetics.
Honestly I wondered why his story was mentioned in stranger things. Alot of theories say it could be Eddie. Also how could they get electricity in the upside-down for Eddie guitar solo?
@user-fx7yn3bd8x why didn't they show them doing that? Duffer brother showed all their prep work for the end battle. It did show Dustin and Eddie putting protection on the the trailer. Why did it show the powerbox at the start of guitar solo?
Brenner can be behind all of this think About it in season 1 the very beginning where he wants El to go into that tank to find that Russian and then again for the demogordon that was 2nd gate, not the 1st then the whole series goes on until the season 4 where El banished 1 into the upside down and what we didn't see in season 1 where El did the same thing there's time in this whole series I think Brenner is stopping El from winning. The 1st ever Gate was when El banished 1 into the upside down and not the other gate where Brenner put El into that tank, and 1 is still out there after that massacre at Hawkins Lab, after He went into the upside down he was looking for a new host, to kidnap will then the mind flayer in season 2 still possess Will, In season 3 and 4 he has that chip attached to him wherever the mind flayer again shows up in season 3 and in season 4 what do you think please tag me in your next theory video
Dustin's hat that says "Thinking Cap" has electric bolts on it....eluding to the electric monitor things they put on the lab subjects and later the same one on Will at the lab/Owen's office
I'm happy someone brought up that Will wears those as well. If you watch the scene with 10 and then watch the scene with Will in S2, they are almost identical scenes. The face close ups, except Will in like freaking tranced out lol, and 10 just looks extremely calm, like oddly calm.
I think the twins are steve and robin. Steve crawled backward, and robin took longer to walk than the rest of the kids. Maybe she taught him to crawl forward. They were both there because Robin has super hearing, and Steve is a human wayfinder.
Reckon Steve & Robin's S4 "Crawling backwards" & recalling of memories from when they were still pretty much babies will be part of actual S5 scenes when they timetravel to the past & see themselves!
The wild machine numbers 1511 1 - vecna 5- Mike will max Dustin and lucas 11 - Eleven Equals 8 - kali could be everything put together will lead to her... maybe vecna was put into the upside Down by eleven... because of "everyone getting killed"... in which kali could've had an image of everyone to set her off and her use her power to force out vecna who could be the only one to stop eleven or kali.... wild theory but kali being evil...
You already know I 100% think Kali is a major villain, or has major involvement with Henry/ everything that's happening. No doubt in my mind we will see her return or her have some sort of influence in S5. All the number symbols in this show intrigue the shit outta me lmfao!
I always thought that the reason the children were chosen is because they are the children of the mk ultra volunteers. I also thought that if they stayed in Hawkins then the kids were not taken as it would've put too much sight on the lab but the kids may have been tested young to see if they could have abilities. I thought that Ted may have been a volunteer because he is boring and maybe Nancy and Mike were tested and Nancy can hit her target and mike can see el but thought he was seeing things. Their little sister is extra involved this season could vecna be trying to find others with powers to help with his goals which is why will was taken. If there was anyone in hawkins that would happly be paid to take drugs and float it wouldve been will and Jonathan's dad. I also wondered why the demodogs didnt do more damage to owens just hurt his leg. Could the reason that 8 has a different ability is because it wasnt what the government really wanted to focus on but they know it so the other numbers in the lab could do it and make it seem they were dead. 10 doesnt look like his legs are broken either in the background picture. Could the science teacher be a plant by the lad to keep an eye on the children on mk ultra subjects and befriends some to try and make them like science so to get them to work at the lab and be open to experiments. Just had your channel pop up on my feed so dont know what else you have talked about.
According to the Montauk Project novels, the children at the Lab were abandoned, & homeless....& were only chosen because nobody would ever realize that they're alive let alone missing! Think Eleven's mother Terry Iyves was alerted to the Lab by responding to an advert where she'd get paid for volunteering in their experiments, & so it's not only children but adults too...&, It's only when Brenner found out that she's pregnant did he decide to kidnap Eleven & fake her death because in her, he had the product of a mother who's experimented on...& in Eleven he could shape her exactly as he wishes to maintain total control because he struggled with Henry.
I think you should be a video where you see holly wheeler and Alice creel side by side as I think holly has a look of Alice which would make sense if Karen wheeler is Alice creel as kids (aka holly wheeler) tends to take traits of both parents
I have theories based off the Karen Wheeler Poster, as well as my Mama is Alice Creel Theories. Check those ones out, they may sway your mind a bit. There's a lot more information and connections in those! Much love fam!
Do you think when the door bashed in 1 was using his powers and El was using her powers in the rainbow room and that whole scene took place where EL banished 1 to the upside-down and 1 started that whole massacre Not El please use this in your theory video
When I get a proper mic I can mount correctly no doubt that will go away lol! I move all the time when I talk and most definitely talk with my hands lol. Things will slowly get more professional as this journey continues don't you worry. Much love fam and appreciate you!
Reasons why Eddie could be 10
1 He tells Chrissy that he used to have a buzz cut like the kids in the lab.
2 We know that music helps to block out any vecna or upside down, after Max uses it in s4 and Eddie worships metal the loudest music there is, and of course blasted master of puppets down there.
3 When he sees Chrissy die, the trauma on his face like he'd seen it before, and if he is 10 he would of seen 006 and Dr Ellis die in his visions.
4 He's not really shocked or even that freaked after Dustin and the gang tell him everything that's been going on, he maybe just relieved that they believe he didn't do anything, but it is odd how quickly he joins the group with no questions.
5 He may not remember anything about his time in the lab after the massacre, using your powers affects your memories, and that mixed with the added trauma, however if 10 did remember his time there he never saw 11 in s4 at all so we never saw them together anyway.
6 He championed the different and the unique, like himself. 10 was a loner, sat alone away from the others.
7 He used drugs to possibly numb senses.
8 He played music as distraction in the upside down, now he could of known this would work because of Max, but we don't see anybody tell him to do this specifically, which is strange.
9 He runs Hellfire club and we know a lot of what is going on is related to the game, with the creatures etc, and he's the leader. Plus the name Hellfire, and we know what doesn't like fire.
Sorry for going on a bit but what do you all think?
Literally phenomenal, it's been hard for me to stray into the fact that some of the other characters could possibly be numbers, just because Hawkins Lab has so much influence and control over the kids. It's hard to figure out how they could have escaped, but with this theory, and my thought about the fact 10 could be involved in some way. That could connect to his escape, but how is the question.I'm definitely going to be looking for more signs of 10 now no doubt. Much love for real, your thoughts are for real PHENOMENAL!
Doubt Eddie is 10 but do think he'll return to feature in S5. Can now see Vecna taunting Dustin by giving him visions of Eddie in order to break into his mind... similar to how he did Max in S4 by using the guilt she felt for Billy's death against her.
Alternatively, like Eleven did Max, Vecna could have resurrected Eddie in the Upsidedown & take him to the dark side!
@Wazzu_07 I can see Eddie being used to taunt Dustin absolutely, if he's not 10 I'd still love to see the character come back somehow. I just wonder why we see the scene in the beginning of s4 and focus on his test, the whole interaction, it's just intriguing that's the audience's viewpoint.
this is a great theory but to be honest i think if eddie was 10 then they would’ve cast 10s actor as eddie
@lilliana493 OK fair point, but think about the fact 10 is only known by his number never his name, like all the kids in the lab. And if 10 is dead in that scene, why did he not kill Brenner at the same time!!! Just a thought, but I see why people think 10 is just another child killed in the massacre. 😉
Brandon our boy and fellow math nerd... riddle me this:
In season 4 episode 1 during the hellfire club D&D campaign Dustin rolls an eleven "and its a miss" on Vecna. Erica rolls a natural 20 and defeats Vecna. So if 11 loses and a 20 wins is it possible that the numbers of the test subjects matter since only three subjects ever left the lab.. The show is clearly based on this iconic game in a sense.
Jane Ives/Hopper/Eleven = 011
Henry Creel/Vecna = 001
Kahli(?) = 008
TOTAL =020
If there is something to this it would mean that Dustin was right as he has never been wrong so far, that Vecna is the Mind Flayer's 5 star general and NOT the "Big Bad". Rather the Mind Flayer is the ultimate evil and to beat him eleven, eight, and one will have to team up to defeat him. What do you think about 11+1+8=20=win???
Yes yes yes totally agree with you it does seem that to defeat whatever IT is 001 011 and 008 have to come together to break the connection, makes perfect sense, I hope it's true because we'll see a full turnaround on Vecna😊
@@TonyMatulewicz J caught that as well. All of those numbers adding to 20 and who they represent. Those 3 test subjects may have to beat The mind flayed together.
No doubt in my mind I have always thought that every time we see the numbers the kids or group roill, HAVE MAJOR IMPORTANCE! I haven't strayed to far into the D&D campaigns yet, but definitely going to after see this! Will definitely figure out a theory and will gladly include this for sure! SHOUT OUT IS IN ORDER!!! Much love fam, it just keeps getting crazier and crazier lmfao!!!
The MF/Shadow Particles remains as the ultimate villain, only giving Henry the illusion that he is in control, using him to open a gate so that it can gain access to the world because it wants to takeover it.
The ST stageplay also supports this theory as it depicts a young Henry Creel seemingly at odds with the Mindflayer as it constantly possessed him trying to get him to commit evil even though Henry doesn't want to!
It also depicts Brenner as a villainous figure who constantly encourages Henry to kill. The stageplay seemed to humanize Henry more than vilify him.
Eddie's uncle Wyane is way too kosher about moving when Dr. Owen's ppl came to his house. It's like he's been waiting on them. He doesn't leave because Eddie goes on the run and then unfortunately dies.😢 None the less, he knows more than he's letting on, and because of that, i can't trust him fully just yet. After all, he is the one that brought up Victor Creel in the first place. Slight of hand, maybe? I feel like he's trying to take the attention away from the trailor park or from Eddie cause he's #10, and Wyane is, well, was in charge of keeping him hidden and safe. If that's the case, i feel extra bad for him.
Congrats on 600 subs bro 🎉
HELL YEAH!!! Thank you fam! We're going strong for sure, appreciate each and every one of you! Much love!
I don't even know how to write it, it's not a theory, it's more like something I noticed and somehow put together... I recently started noticing that there are theories that Hopper's daughter Sara might be alive... then i was re-watching season 3, I noticed, the gas station seven eleven and Dustin, Erica, Steve and Robin, when they were in the cinema, they were watching Back to the Future where seven eleven is mentioned (I also only saw it somewhere, I haven't seen that movie)... and also when I guess in season 4 El sees a door with a rainbow, a little girl (008/Kali) and a second little girl, that should be El, but El isn't blonde and that girl was... so... somehow... Sara... I don't know ...
No doubt that's why I question the Mama Flashback when she sees Kali and Jane, which we think is El lol. I 100% agree, the blonde hair makes no sense if that's El. I always felt like that's why they had El wear a blonde wig in Season 1. Strictly to throw us off before we are even introduced to the whole Mama flashback scene. In my opinion there's only one reason there could be as to why they would actually WANT TO throw us off, and oddly the only thing I can think of is that blonde girl was Jane, but not El. As for Sara, I am still extremely thrown off how they will incorporate her importance for S5, but I have a theory coming soon that will talk about a Hopper scene that may tell us a little more than we thought about what happened to Sara.
Henry actually asked El if she could recall that very memory of her mom entering the room at the Lab finding her playing with Kali....implying that the little girl actually was Eleven!
Like if it wasn't, then why would she lie? There'd be no benefit or reason for her to.
The lab renamed Henry/vecna, peter ballard. I had this discussion with my wife a few months ago and she's super smart and knows a lot about shows etc. I asked her if Owens wife was referencing Henry? Maybe he used to bring him home before he was fully committed and made a staff member!? And she said probably because shows won't usually name characters the same thing because it gets confusing. Unless it's for comedic relief like Pete and Pete or something like that!
AND KALI AND HENRY BOTH HAVE BEEN QUOTED AS SAYING "USE YOUR ANGER AND RAGE TO FUEL YOUR POWER!" KALI IS IN ON IT WITH HENRY OMG!
Love watching your channel grow man! Keep up the great work! I think 10 could have been Eddie tbh... if he wasn't, they sure were trying to lead us to think that!
001 was Peter Ballard( he remaind a Ballard for Owens to protect himself since one has autonomous on and off evil switch) while working in the Lab, this might explain so much. Maybe he was adopted by the Owens. Since old school projects are usually drawings and we know Henry liked to draw and stuff, so what if..? The show fixates on energy manipulation, sound frequecies, eg, El's scream is so powerful she doesn't just scream for fun. Look at everytime she had to use most of her power like in season 2 when she closed the mother gate the lights shined much brighter, or when she banished henry to the UD the same happened but when she stopped screaming it went super deam. Light or lightning serves as a key or pathway/portal to another a different reality or dimension, look at the russian key in s3 it must be of the same MegaJoules of enery as lightning. Henry traveled through lightning beam to Dimension X. If you watch DBS when whis travels interdimensionally ... tired of typing just watch clips of that😅
...And you know the Law of energy...
Oh, just rememberd a scene where she didn't use her hands to direct her powers or whatever she'd be doing with her hands. In S4 Ep5/6 when she got pinned down by the guards after she couldn't escape, she used just her scream, and see what her scream did to the lights...and the guards😂
Yay! A new drop! I love your theories.
Much love Melissa as always!!! This one was interesting the whole time I filmed lol. Just wild to me lol!
I think he lets the 8ball decide his path. There are ppl capable of reading minds, he knows that because he can. If you know what you're gonna do next, so will the enemy.
Peter guy is not Owens son :) Henry/001/Vecna is Petter Ballard. He worked in the lab under this name. Here is the quote:
"When Stranger Things first announced Jamie Campbell Bower's casting, the character was named Peter and described as a caring orderly at a psychiatric hospital."
I was just coming here to write the same exact message. It did cross my mind when I watched S4...is it possible that Dr. Owens and his wife were Henry's (aka Peter) caregivers.
Could be 🤔 @@EricFay1984
Kali was mentioned by Henry to El in the scene in which he is telling her about having known 001.
Great eye! I left that, just because we don't see that yet in this scene. But definitely have a theory coming about Henry and all the flashback scenes from Hawkins Lab! Much love always fam!
I don’t know if these mean anything, or if anyone’s ever brought them up; I’ll probably sound insane but:
Rewatching Season 4, I noticed the letter that Mike was holding when he and El were talking about how he couldn’t even “write I love you”, that the bottom of the paper had rainbows.
I also noticed when Fred, Nancy’s friend, went running from Vecna, that Vecna comes out from this place that looks like a tunnel or cave, and when the camera pans up it looked exactly like Billy’s grave/headstone that he was stuck in. It wasn’t dirt walls, it looked more stone like.
With the new season names, I’m thinking maybe this is where they have to go in the upside down to try to help Max since her trauma results from mainly Billy being killed. I dunno.
Anywayyyy, these just stuck out to me.
@@alexishuff ST has shown a consistent theme throughout about power coming from memories, & so like Mike, Jonathan & Joyce helped save Will from being full engulfed by the Mindflayer in S2 by reminding him of loving memories, I bet they'll repeat the trick with Max using the remainder of her unread letters which will give her the power to escape & awake from her coma.
She did describe those letters as her "fail-safe"....& she also told Lucas that she'll try to evade Vecna by hiding in a good memory....which could have referred to the Snowball memory in S4 but also what's to come in S5! When Eleven resurrected Max, she placed her hand on her heart & seemed to transfer happy memories, but only between the pair (unlike Max's flashback in the Dear Billy episode escape). That's where she could be right now!
Back in S4 E1, Lucas tells Max "It's like you're a ghost"...possibly foreshadowing how she'll appear in S5!
Think we'll see all of the remaining Numbers that Henry massacred at the lab return for S5 to be part of his hìs Mindlair storyline along with Virginia & Alice Creel, the S4 sacrifices & maybe even Eddie & possibly Jason!
Could they now be mind-controlled by Vecna in Camazotz just like in A Wrinkle in Time? Perhaps part of his army? As a result of the shadow particles entering into them liks it did the Demogorgans in the Russian prison in S4?
pretty sure "voltage" just refers to the intensity of the electrical activity in Ten's brain. Ten has electrodes stuck to his head, which is how an electroencephalogram test - brain wave measurement - is taken. We also see Eleven and Will (in season 2) with electrodes on their head and scientists nearby monitoring the brain activity graph, and we know the graph spikes significantly when Eleven uses her powers. Interesting that they make a point of showing Will with the same electrodes that they typically use on the test subject kids.
on that note i've been thinking about El's powers and their relation to the Upside Down, and I think that her powers could be heavily based on electromagnetism. We're repeatedly shown stuff to do with electricity and magnetism relating to the Upside Down - the generators required to open the gate in Hawkins Lab which then demagnetises Joyce's magnets, and El is able to use her powers to mess with the compass in season 1. El is able to tap into radio waves (high frequency electromagnetic waves), which she uses to find Will in S1.
Interesting video as always, you seem to catch a lot of stuff everyone else misses, lol
Can't even begin to tell you how many times I just watch these scenes on repeat in order to catch them lol. Much love as always! It's interesting about the numbers/ or data on the sheet though. I looked up more about voltage I left out, and may make a short theory on, but those numbers are Low/Mid range for Voltage, which I found interesting. If you look at the 0.2 next to the word voltage, I figured it had to mean something. Apparently under 0.2 Volts or however the hell it's measured lol, is deadly to a human. But I guess the levels based off that data on the sheet are also close to deadly for a human, so long story short. The data on that sheet basically from what I'm researching, Number 10 should be dead, if he has that level of voltage in his brain. It's interesting thinking about the type of power these kids are emitting and shit. So WILD!!! LOL!
Been binging “The Magicians” on Netflix. One of the best shows on television in the last 10 years. In season 4 episode 5, Eliot is stuck inside a pocket dimension inside a god-like being. In order to break through the monster’s suppression of his psyche, the monster has taken over Eliot’s body, Eliot has to face his worst fear.
Made me think of Will and his battle to free himself from the mindflayer’s control.
In “The Magician’s” Eliot’s greatest fear was commitment. When his friend asked to make their bond stronger, Eliot dismissed it. It’s only when Eliot admitted to himself that he was scared to take his relationship with his friend to the next level, that he got a chance to free himself from the monster.
Have no opinion on 10 being alive, but I found the episode with 10 curious. He seemed very effective, and he foresaw what was coming! So it could be that he tricked Henry into thinking he was dead.
My query is this, were there numbers above 11? Who was 12? Was there a 12?
Spot on! The ST VR gameplay shows exactly this! The only reason Vecna could break into Will's mind was because he understood the nature of his fears, but he wasn't able to break into the rest of the boys' because they were too strong & carefree...not that he didn't attempt to!
Think there were more than 12 Numbers, & the figure was somewhere in the region of the mid-teens.
The ST comics also show that there was a whole other batch of numbers before the ones we were shown in the S4 flashback scenes of the Rainbow Room. Whether they were based in Hawkins or at another location like Nevada where the Nina Project was conducted I'm not so sure. There's even mention of one of 'em with the ability to see into the future & actually seeing the Demogorgan & even Eleven!
Thanks for dropping this you noticed more than I did in that scene.
1 when 6 gives that look in the corridor, I get the impression 10 is not liked for some reason just like eleven, which is odd maybe him 11 and kali were friends and favourites to Brenner, which is why they 10 and 11 we see being segregated from the others, and I do think Kali gave him the 8 ball or it was her toy.
2 thanks for pointing out the similarities between 10 and max and Alice and what we see or don't see, I think that scene is very important and foreshadowed the max scene.
3 10 was powerful sometimes 11 needs a picture to find someone, so his powers of sight were strong,
4 the reason they measure the voltage (good spot) is they need a certain amount of energy to open a gate, which is what Brenner wants, and what Henry won't do, but that's another theory.
5 Good spot on the Peter thing didn't notice this.
Can't wait for the video about Eddie. Thanks again 😉
HELL YEAH! Much love fam and amazing thought for real! I had a lot of fun making this one. It was wild how many random and odd things are around or happen. So many questions still lol. Appreciate you always!
@DLA_AlternativePodcast I was thinking about your Peter spot and it got me thinking again 😆, this really strengthens my Hopper was at Hawkins Lab with his daughter, Hopper and Owens seem familiar somehow, they could if Peter died have both lost a child, which is why Owens gives Hopper Jane's birth certificate in season 2, he knows how badly Hopper needs to be a parent again. He even probably sorted out, after Hoppers alleged death, Eleven staying with Joyce and moving to Cali, probably sorted out the house. I don't think Joyce was earning enough for that move.
@sarahpercival8460 also, when the lab guys and the military guys come to homes, they always take boxes of stuff. What stuff did they take of "Peter's" from Owen's? How did they know to take pics of D and D at Mike's and take the D and D games and stuff?
There are twins in the Comic Book. 9 a fire starter and 9.5 a teleporter. However, in the book 6 is a red headed girl who can see the future and in the show 6 was a young black boy with telekinetics.
Hope Kali returns in ST5
Honestly I wondered why his story was mentioned in stranger things. Alot of theories say it could be Eddie. Also how could they get electricity in the upside-down for Eddie guitar solo?
The gate is in Eddie's trailer so they could have dragged the cable through the gate or get the power by some sort of portable battery box.
@user-fx7yn3bd8x why didn't they show them doing that? Duffer brother showed all their prep work for the end battle. It did show Dustin and Eddie putting protection on the the trailer. Why did it show the powerbox at the start of guitar solo?
Brenner can be behind all of this think About it in season 1 the very beginning where he wants El to go into that tank to find that Russian and then again for the demogordon that was 2nd gate, not the 1st then the whole series goes on until the season 4 where El banished 1 into the upside down and what we didn't see in season 1 where El did the same thing there's time in this whole series I think Brenner is stopping El from winning. The 1st ever Gate was when El banished 1 into the upside down and not the other gate where Brenner put El into that tank, and 1 is still out there after that massacre at Hawkins Lab, after He went into the upside down he was looking for a new host, to kidnap will then the mind flayer in season 2 still possess Will, In season 3 and 4 he has that chip attached to him wherever the mind flayer again shows up in season 3 and in season 4 what do you think please tag me in your next theory video
Dustin's hat that says "Thinking Cap" has electric bolts on it....eluding to the electric monitor things they put on the lab subjects and later the same one on Will at the lab/Owen's office
I'm happy someone brought up that Will wears those as well. If you watch the scene with 10 and then watch the scene with Will in S2, they are almost identical scenes. The face close ups, except Will in like freaking tranced out lol, and 10 just looks extremely calm, like oddly calm.
18:18 001 in the lab was called Peter Ballard, maybe it was about him? Because it is weird that there were so many Peters
Feels like a Eddie theory after seeing the thumbnail picture
Eddie? I'm confused lol, Eddies not in the thumbnail?
I think the twins are steve and robin. Steve crawled backward, and robin took longer to walk than the rest of the kids. Maybe she taught him to crawl forward. They were both there because Robin has super hearing, and Steve is a human wayfinder.
@amandaperkins8965 I always thought Will and Eleven were twins. Like in Star Wars. One trains like Luke and one is home with the friends.
Reckon Steve & Robin's S4 "Crawling backwards" & recalling of memories from when they were still pretty much babies will be part of actual S5 scenes when they timetravel to the past & see themselves!
The Duffer bros say season 5 will tie up all the loose ends!
They definitely need to confirm this Massacre fiasco lol! No doubt! Much love fam!
The wild machine numbers 1511
1 - vecna
5- Mike will max Dustin and lucas
11 - Eleven
Equals
8 - kali could be everything put together will lead to her... maybe vecna was put into the upside Down by eleven... because of "everyone getting killed"... in which kali could've had an image of everyone to set her off and her use her power to force out vecna who could be the only one to stop eleven or kali.... wild theory but kali being evil...
You already know I 100% think Kali is a major villain, or has major involvement with Henry/ everything that's happening. No doubt in my mind we will see her return or her have some sort of influence in S5. All the number symbols in this show intrigue the shit outta me lmfao!
I always thought that the reason the children were chosen is because they are the children of the mk ultra volunteers. I also thought that if they stayed in Hawkins then the kids were not taken as it would've put too much sight on the lab but the kids may have been tested young to see if they could have abilities. I thought that Ted may have been a volunteer because he is boring and maybe Nancy and Mike were tested and Nancy can hit her target and mike can see el but thought he was seeing things. Their little sister is extra involved this season could vecna be trying to find others with powers to help with his goals which is why will was taken. If there was anyone in hawkins that would happly be paid to take drugs and float it wouldve been will and Jonathan's dad.
I also wondered why the demodogs didnt do more damage to owens just hurt his leg.
Could the reason that 8 has a different ability is because it wasnt what the government really wanted to focus on but they know it so the other numbers in the lab could do it and make it seem they were dead.
10 doesnt look like his legs are broken either in the background picture.
Could the science teacher be a plant by the lad to keep an eye on the children on mk ultra subjects and befriends some to try and make them like science so to get them to work at the lab and be open to experiments.
Just had your channel pop up on my feed so dont know what else you have talked about.
According to the Montauk Project novels, the children at the Lab were abandoned, & homeless....& were only chosen because nobody would ever realize that they're alive let alone missing!
Think Eleven's mother Terry Iyves was alerted to the Lab by responding to an advert where she'd get paid for volunteering in their experiments, & so it's not only children but adults too...&, It's only when Brenner found out that she's pregnant did he decide to kidnap Eleven & fake her death because in her, he had the product of a mother who's experimented on...& in Eleven he could shape her exactly as he wishes to maintain total control because he struggled with Henry.
I have a guestimate about number 10 could be. I think he's either will byers or Eddie.
I think you should be a video where you see holly wheeler and Alice creel side by side as I think holly has a look of Alice which would make sense if Karen wheeler is Alice creel as kids (aka holly wheeler) tends to take traits of both parents
I have theories based off the Karen Wheeler Poster, as well as my Mama is Alice Creel Theories. Check those ones out, they may sway your mind a bit. There's a lot more information and connections in those! Much love fam!
Do you think when the door bashed in 1 was using his powers and El was using her powers in the rainbow room and that whole scene took place where EL banished 1 to the upside-down and 1 started that whole massacre Not El please use this in your theory video
Like the content but please do something about the mic...it floating about is very distracting
When I get a proper mic I can mount correctly no doubt that will go away lol! I move all the time when I talk and most definitely talk with my hands lol. Things will slowly get more professional as this journey continues don't you worry. Much love fam and appreciate you!